In some ways, I'm happy to acknowledge that I haven't jumped on the iPhone bandwagon. I still think it's a nice phone, but my iPod Touch is sufficient. - Tamar Weinberg

@tamar - well my original iPhone will magically turn into an iPod Touch in a few days. But one with an external speaker - so there. - MG Siegler

I think Steve has this message hooked up to a switch in his house and he just flicks it's on and off then hits refresh on all the Mac news sites to watch them all jump. :) (please give us Firmware 2.0 early for us 1st gen owners!) - Adam Turetzky

11:05PM PST - still down (don't worry won't do these too often) - MG Siegler

My guess... NO NEW PRODUCTS. Everyone cries. - Louis Gray

could very well be a trial run or prep for MobileMe launch on Wed. - MG Siegler

What could POSSIBLY be coming out in the next week that they might want to update the store for.. - Chacha

@chacha - new ipod socks? - MG Siegler

Sound the alarms! - l0ckergn0me

Gotta do something with the 15 mill? - Brian Sullivan

This would make a lot of sense - Mike Doeff

That would pretty good actually. I hope they can integrate it into twitter experience, and make it part of their api as well - Shivanand Velmurugan via twhirl

well, they have to get code that works from somewhere. - Slobokan

Interesting. - Clay Newton

They have to do something with that money, seems like a good idea since they could leverage it for replies. - Scott Watermasysk

I can't think of a reason why that doesn't make sense. - Jake Jarvis

No. Effing. Way. - Vinny

I think it is a good move for the twitter gang. a service that works well with twitter...maybe it will rub off on twitter :) - (jeff)isageek

Would make perfect sense. - Francine Hardaway via twhirl

I think it would be a smart move for them. - Alan Le

I hope not... Summize is great as it is. - Chris Thomson

Considering the email I got from Twitter's help dept. promoted Summize, I'm not surprised. - Erin Kotecki Vest

"I for one welcome our Twitter-Summize overlords." - Joe D'Andrea

Did anyone notice that Summize recently added translation links & language filters? Summize is a VERY well done webapp if you ask me. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Buy Summize? Why don't they just integrate the Summize API into Twitter - Just Kidding - Could be a good thing! - Eric Cedo

Twitter would break Summize! - Andrew

One company with no revenue buys another company with no revenue and whose existence depends on the first company? Why couldn't Twitter add the main Summize feature set in a few weeks if they could get their act together? - David Fry

valuations? I'm shorting Summize if this happens... - ryangraves

Summize would be doomed by being bought out... At least right now, they have the option of expanding to other networks such as friend feed, and brightkite, if they really wanted to! - Joel

They have to spend their money on something and they sure as hell aren't spending it on infrastructure at the moment. - Adam Helweh

I was thinking about that ever since I started using Summize... it makes perfect sense... - Manos Matsakis

constantly suggesting it, great idea - Patphelan

Through a little more weight on the sinking boat why don't you. - David Jacobs

Make it be true. - Andrew Ruess via twhirl

They'd better buy Oracle technology for scalability! - Eric Sausse

I hope they buy up a few of the best apps that have been developed over the last year. They need to innovate, and it's people outside of Twitter who are developing the coolest stuff. Hopefully those people can help them integrate functionality into the site and bring new ideas! - Hillary Hartley

this is smart for twitter, but generally bad for summize -- although I don't think any of those guys are really high profile and a win like this would work in their favor if they were sick of swinging for the fences. Interesting to see how it plays out. - Tyler Willis

Oh noez... *hears Summize breaking* - Brandice

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008... - Nik Cubrilovic

ok, we got confirmation they were talking, but no confirmation of a deal yet. - michael arrington

"Summize is over capacity". - Daniel Rowley

We'll need to think up new animals/concepts to signify the eventual 'Fail' *I'm thinking of photoshopping up a chalkboard with an incorrect calculation* - Jake Fudge

I agree 100% Tom. That is how I have been finding a lot of people. I am relatively new to FF so that and friend of a friend posts are the only ways I am finding people. - Matt Donders

Personally - that's why FriendFeed is differentiating itself from a lot of other sites. It caters to those active people that want to discuss, learn, inform - which makes it a resource that I come back to over and over again... - George Smith

I'm in absolute agreement but have to admit that I've added some of the A listers just to see who's talking to them intelligently. Granted, the ROI's a little low, but sometimes watching the fawning is reward in and of itself. <insert sarcasticon here> - Linda Mills

You get what you give - Dave Martin

Good point, this is one of the reasons why I'm spending more time on FF now - great way to discover and interact with new people that have relevant information/comments to share - Gabriel Biguria

So very true. My page of "recommended" friends is nothing but a bunch of A-listers that would fill my FF pages with mostly junk, and not a lot of substance. - Brandon Wood

ditto ditto and ditto - just added Gabriel and Jeremy in fact - Marco

When I am looking for people that share my interests, I search for a headline I really liked on the everyone tab and check out others who shared it and see what they are all about. It is kind of time consuming but fun. - Geoff Schultz

we use the same technique - Fred Grott

I'd also add that you don't have to add a whole lot of people to get quality content thrown into your FF stream. I'm slowly adding people and the value of FF went up 10 fold. - Otto R. Radke

The goal of adding friends here is to have intersting stuff in your Friendfeed. And you do that by carefully watching the dicussion not just in terms of comments and likes ( as mentioned above multiple times), but what items are posted by people. Thats whats I look for. - Roberto Bonini

I've been getting annoyed at the amount of junk, repetition, and endless Twitter vs. FriendFeed talk from the so-called "A-listers". It's high time to start unsubscribing and find some new "friends". - Matt

the ancient toad style of social networking - Anthony

Actually if you do that you soon realize that there's more content by interesting people here than time you have to read that. Then, the question stops being how to find interesting people (that you'll keep finding and following) but how to reduce the noise... - Marcos Marado via fftogo

So Marcos the task at hand is to become Jedi of the Hide button and learn how to fine tune everything. - Mark Forman

Hide is awsome, but I'm feeling it is not enough. I hope noiseriver ends up being the solution, but... it still hasn't the hide feature implemented :-) - Marcos Marado via fftogo

That is why I will add an interesting comment to this post. I await being added... *waits* - Michael Narciso

Hah! I just added everyone in this post who I wasn't already subscribed to. - Thomas Hawk

Ha! Prepare to be inundated with my brand of minutia! - Geoff Schultz

If the same friend of X comes up often, and I find them interesting, I will subscribe to them. - Hao Chen

No white bubbles here for me. - Robert Scoble

Thomas: I do the same thing too - Sally Church

like me! - John Cozen

I get zero comments on FF to my posts. I'm not A-list of course. I'm more like a lesser known Baldwin brother. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

LOL @ Scoble's comment!! ha, ha! - Susan Beebe

@Jason Participation is a two way street. - Hao Chen

amen brutha! - Scott Jarkoff

I, too, am just getting more involved in this social networking thing ... - Robert Couture

This taps into what for me is the stand-out experience FF. 'Common Interest' is _one_ facet, but there's more going on in deciding to Subscribe or not. It's like a first impression in person - the brain takes a bunch of behavioral cues builds a profile in seconds upon which decisions (sometimes lasting) are made. To balance the split decision weakness of not enough information, just cruise through the person's feed for 'background check'. All common sense I suppose. - Micah Wittman

Yeah but I frikin HATE the moment I add 1 person from a thread i like, I get bumped out of the thread & have to go back & search for it again to see if I want to add anyone else. - Mrsth

@mrsth, I agree 110% w/ that. It's easier to open a new tab then scroll down and locate the topic again... - Czar Derek Peterman

Nah...I add completely based on superficiality and looks. :-P - Carlos Perez

@Czar- ah I didn't realize you could do that. I'll give it a whirl. Thx!!! - Mrsth

@Carlos Perez- Ahh. that explains alot. You can only see my legs:-) - Mrsth

Let this be a lesson to you all that it is always good to be patient. I patiently waited to be added and I was presented with some new friends.! - Michael Narciso

i guess just a 'me too' here would be totally wrong. - Marianne Lenox

I think the only way to find those interesting people you don't know is to subscribe to the popular people. I've been finding some interesting folks that way. Otherwise, no one posts comments to your own stuff. Oh, to be unpopular. Sigh. - CS Techcast

That's exactly correct. I don't auto-follow. I add people who comment and like and share things I'm interested in. - Louis Gray

wow, that's a super-excellent observation. i'm taking the hint with a few 'white-bubble' folks here too. altho i wonder if the FF folks shouldn't cue that behavior up with mouse-over info on the bubble icons... i had no clue why the color was showing up at first. (then again, i'm often an idiot) - dave mcclure

awesome. this reaffirms why i like ff better than twitter. the failwhale is kind of endearing, though. - Marissa

Couldn't agree more! The Fancy Pants people are too fancy, I just want interesting conversation(s)! - Cheryl

Totally agree!! Wish I could get some of those people as my friends too!! - ChaCha Fance

I can't stand FF posts with more than 10 comments. I want to filter them out but there is no option for that. - Sam Pullara

What client are you using? twirhl makes comments on FF OK, but just OK. It's a shame that we're all this way and still don't have clients that support threaded conversations as good as tin or slrn on usenet... - David Molnar via twhirl

Good tip:) - Igor Poltavskiy

david let's agree on 'as good as on usenet' - i never could stand neither tin nor slrn *g* but yes. it is now 10 years ago that most decent usenet clients had a feature set still not rediscovered for everything feedish ... - Nicole Simon

Agreed as well I look out for the white speech bubbles as well to see what value they add to the FriendFeed community! - Joe Dawson

and little like icons ;) - Tyler

Occasionally I'll wander over to everyone and 'browse'. it's really eye opening as FF grows - Charlie Anzman

Charlie, I like doing that too, but we need a language filter badly! - Hao Chen

wow OE, way to sneak in there - Shey

Heck, I'd ask for more followers (I would probably be about 500th or lower), but then Scoble would block me ;) - Vince DeGeorge

I am reported as having 662 but FF tells me I have 952. Seems like a higher than normal margin. If I understand it, those folks are either private or lurkers? - Sacca

wow I made a list (181) - Steven Hodson

Dan Farber > Kevin Rose. Go Dan! - Sprague D

Nuts that I made this list ... good stuff :) - Nick O'Neill

a nice list of enemies that must be destroyed. :) just kidding "I'm not here to make friends!" - Marshall Kirkpatrick

@Sacca, the author's said that they can only crawl active accounts that have published activity. There are likely _a ton_ of accounts that were created, following you for example, that weren't picked up due to inactivity. Mine was off by 25-30% as well. And if you think about it... even the most popular activities here just graze 100 likes or comments, not 2000, so there are a lot of people who don't participate. - Louis Gray

I'm with Chris, I'm being underreported, private ones? - MG Siegler

I have 63. I thought I would have made the list. - Rob Williams

ahh just saw your comment louis, thx - MG Siegler

This should be fun to explore new users. - Mark Krynsky

Darn, just missed. 5 minutes late, that should be my motto. - J. Phil

it's pretty interesting to me, actually, that for being as tiny, tech focused and A-list driven as people say FF is - nobody's got more than 20% of users following them and only 7 people have more than 7% of users following them. That makes me think things are more diverse around here than I thought. No? - Marshall Kirkpatrick

@Marshall The truth is, small blogs have a bigger voice here than any other social service. - Shey

#70, http://friendfeed.com/quixotic, "has not broadcast any events yet"...what's with that? Deleted all the services maybe? - Craig Eddy

damn 100 away from making the list - Fred Grott

a-lists are for suckas. and playboys. ;) - kris krug

Quality > Quantity. - Sprague D

@kriskrug then I must be a Sucka Playboy! Dont get how I could've make this list, but its a nice bday surpise anyway. - Schlomo Rabinowitz

Looking at a graph of the top 50 users, the Default Nine effect isn't all that pronounced. The distribution of users looks pretty much like the sort of thing you get when you do any graph of this sort (i.e. a classic long tail) http://kshep.posterous.com/gra... - Ken Sheppardson

i'm yearning for the day that the top 5 are non-techies...that will be a great day for Friendfeed! - Pokai

I especiallylike Pokai's comment—I'll be happiest when the top users are diverse people, not just "techies." - Cathryn Hrudicka

Pokai....I don't think that is even possible. - Rahsheen Porter

+1 Like for Ontario Emperor making it in - Hutch Carpenter

The list reports my followers at 255, FF shows me closer to 355, but still cool to be on the list at 209 even if I feel I'm not as active on FF as many, many others, guess I'm still relatively active... - Shannon Clark

Seriously humbled :) - Charlie Anzman

If my stats were reported correctly, I would appear in the top 100 - woo hoo!! - Susan Beebe

If they published a list of the top 75,000, I'd totally make it. ;) - Wes Justice

Alas, I've not hit the top 250... ;-) - Mark Dykeman

How can you say that Twitter will never make it mainstream when it has already been featured in every major news paper, several news shows and not to mention all of the major organizations/businesses that are beginning to use it. - John Barker

I'm really wanting to like Plurk, but they are making it very very difficult. And personally, if I could get my friends over to FriendFeed I'd have dropped twitter already. but until ff gets the mobile aspect nailed (SMS) they are not going to budge. - Russell Holliman

I didn't say it wouldn't make it mainstream.. I was more implying that friendfeed would have a more difficult time than twitter. Twitter has an upperhand for sure :) - justine

Only just managed to get a whole bunch of friends to sign up to Twitter, i dont think i'll have much joy getting them to sign up for friend feed as well. So Twitters still the win for me. - Simon

I'm non-tech (I'm a journalist) and I cry aloud every time Twitter is down. Plurk is fun, but I always feel it wants my soul. But yes, if you're not web-friendly, it'll be hard to be mainstream. - Juan Carlo Rodríguez

I think Twitter will be the site to emerge out of the pack - the one that is used by not only the tech-saavy, but others outside our bubble as well. If my Dad who is 60 is asking "what is this Twitter I keep hearing about" then you know it's getting lots of press and driving people to check it out. Plurk is my least favorite - so far - of the bunch. I like Twitter and FriendFeed alot. Outside that, I'm kicking tires and checking them out. - Geoff Peterson

@justine my comment was more directed at @Granteezy. :P - John Barker

The great thing about friendfeed, I think, is that it doesn't matter much who "wins" -- twitter winds up providing content for friendfeed anyway, either via twitter users signing up or the use of imaginary friends. (It does have an unfortunate blind spot for locked feeds -- I wish it could authenticate as me to get those, but oh well.) - R. Francis Smith

The imaginary friend thing is pretty awesome, I must admit :) - justine

"which site would you have joined first: twitter or FriendFeed?" Actually, I only joined twitter so I could add it to my Friendfeed. :) I must agree with Granteezy, I don't think they will be AS mainstream as MySpace and Facebook. - Alejandro S.

Funny how Plurk seems to have removed the option to delete an account. Maybe too many of us left when the novelty wore off and they don't want anyone to notice. - Guillermo Esteves

Plurk removed the option to delete your account??? Really? - justine

That, or they changed it so I need a trillion karma before they’ll let me use it :) - Guillermo Esteves

Plurko - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

I'll tell you a BIG difference: friendfeed seems to take itself very seriously. This can help facilitate a certain type of conversation, which has its place. I feel like twitter gives me space to say whatever I want, without it falling flat. - rambn

i don't see why it's one or the other. they both work in different ways and have a different reach. twitter can perhaps work to enhance friendfeed. it doesn't work so much the other way around, as friendfeed just offers more flexibility not to mention the ability to write more than a limited amount of words like i'm doing now. - Cee Bee

Cee Bee, I'm guessing if you play a lot of zero-sum games, you tend to see the world as one "x vs. y" after another... - Karim

I agree that the Twitter dudes are too lax at sensing user dissatisfaction. The relaxed California attitude, (Twittering about soy lattes after being down all week), is foolish. And the arrogance of listening to their $15,000,000 VC friends telling them 'don't worry about current defections, there will be a crowd there when you get there', is equally foolish. It was the excellent attitude of the original shop 2 years ago, that got them here. - Ed Shaz/NextInstinct

Man let this whole FriendFeed vs. Twitter thing go! They don't even compete in the same space. FriendFeed has a completely different objective. FriendFeed benefits from Twitters or other services. I can't believe you are even comparing the 2. I'm getting tired of all these Twitter vs. FriendFeed comparisons. The more people who join Twitter, FriendFeed doesn't care, in fact it benefits. FriendFeed is like those multi-service instant messaging clients. - Michael Narciso

rambn: Twitter gives you the space to say whatever you want without anyone listening. :-) It's no place to have a conversation. Half life of conversations on Twitter are about four minutes. On FriendFeed? A conversation can go on for hours. - Robert Scoble

BUT!!! One of the real ills of society, indeed the latest generations, is the lack of staying power and loyalty. A shallow, superficial, impatient human condition serves none of us well. There are terrific hardworking inspired people inside Twitter. And perhaps Evan, Biz, and Jack had to shut out the signal for the noise, But they do need a better sense of reality. This ain't new. - Ed Shaz/NextInstinct

Robert, in other words FriendFeed is like a newsgroup or forum conversation...but feels broader in cross-section. Twitter is more positional - people do not converse, they simply state positions. - Craig Thomler

Actually Susan that's the reverse. - Steve Rubel

To clarify my post the ratio is compiled as follows (Friendfeed/Twitter*100)=Followdex - Steve Rubel

30% here - Kevin Bondelli

21% of friendfeed audience follow me. (1979 FF vs 9040 in Twitter) - Jeremiah Owyang

6.8% -_-' I need a better and more automated "find & invite friends" system, just like Friender and Connector on MyBlogLog. - LoreArtifex

@jeremiah Truth is there is overlap. It's not zero sum. I receive your tweets here. - Steve Rubel

Ego posting - paul mooney

having relevance how? differnt tools for different purposes. it would make more sense to me to compare your feedburner number to the ff number than this. - Nicole Simon

96%. But I've largely abandoned Twitter and spend alot more time here. My guess is I pass 100% in the next few weeks as FF is growing faster than Twitter. - Thomas Hawk

95% (448 FF / 470 Twitter) *100 = 95% - Susan Beebe

20% - Leo Laporte

7.4% (30FF / 408T) but if i use FF more and change a few links, FF will catch up fast. - Jason Theodor

29% but catching up fast. Probably getting 4 FF subscribers for every 1 Twitter follow these days. - Kevin C. Tofel

34 on Twitter, 47 FF. - Richard Bradshaw

@Sebastian Use the friend settings tab on the far right - Kevin Bondelli

351 / 195 = 181%, 18 (4.9%) FriendFeed followers unfollowed (351 of 369 stayed). My noise ratios (followers/following) are 1.75 FriendFeed and 1.39 Twitter. - Mitchell Tsai

Like for "Followdex" - Hutch Carpenter

Cool! That's new right? - Hutch Carpenter

Yeah. That is new and I like! - RAPatton

I noticed that in the last 30 minutes. - Russellreno

epic win, imo - Chris Hollander

Been wanting something like that. Thanks! Noticed it even adds "your friend xx post this" for people you subscribe to. - Tom Landini

FriendFeed & Flock both continue to just rock my little world - Craig Eddy

cool!! - edythe

neat!! - Susan Beebe

Unfortunately, the tooltip often obscures the user info pop-up. - Akiva Moskovitz

Finally! YES! - Shey

NICE!! - Mike Fruchter

cool! - Noah Carter

Friendfeed just gets cooler every day. - Harvey Simmons

Yeah, there are so many little things. It's great to find new features every day. - Aaron Myers

@Akiva: just move your mouse a touch and the tooltip will disappear (at least it does on Flock) - Craig Eddy

Craig, I'm American. You ask too much of me. - Akiva Moskovitz

Time doesn't update if you've edited the comment... :-( - Mitchell Tsai

Great addition to the site! @Mitchell I agree although how would they work it? Maybe replacing the comment time with the word edited as well with the new time! - Joe Dawson

Sean and MG, not every site requires jumping to and from. How long have you been using your current operating system, for example? FriendFeed could be your social media/information operating system for the long haul. - Louis Gray

i know louis, i'm (somewhat) kidding. working on a post of a similar nature actually :) - MG Siegler

Louis, I'm with you, but I do remember a time when FB was going to be the social media operating system. However, FF is run by extraordinary people, and the people that are active on FF are damn sharp, as that recent top 30 shows. Compare those 30 people to the people using the top 30 FB apps and we've got a true dichotomy. I can't wait till FF starts following the popular entries people post and creates an amazing social search. - Dan Kaplan

Good point Louis, so prior to all social media was in the DOS stages. Required flooppy disks (silos) and unique boot procedures. FF is Windows 3.1, look a clock! Sweet. - sean percival

what's gonna be Windows ME? - MG Siegler

Alexander: Doh :) It's not always like football... this is a little bit private, isn't it :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Who is making all this noise, oh it's directeur. Well he cant help it, he's French! Great service BTW, congratulations ;-) (but I still want to know who hates me ;-) ) - Alexander van Elsas

Alexander! haha! Thank you! Actually i'm not French... though I speak french very fluently, and yes sorry: it's me ;-) - directeur via NoiseRiver

And come on! Who'll dare to hate you? You're a very good blogger, Toots Thielemans is great! and your football team is amazing! :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Amazingly good at losing the quarterfinals after we played the best football in a 1st round ever to be played. and look what it got us ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

Well... that happens :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Alexander, you're very binary in how you think about love/hate. Don't let the definitions limit your thinking. Here's an example. I like a lot of what MG Siegler posts. However, I do not care at all about his facial hair and I care even less about any jokes about twitter, fail whale, etc. Yet I like his posts about iPhone, streaming video from PC to TV, etc. With NoiseRiver you don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water. - Robert Seidman via NoiseRiver

Robert, Exactly ! Couldn't described it better myself! That's why the sliders work from -1 to 1, in this interval you define your feeling... - directeur via NoiseRiver

Binary? Ha, not binary, I just want the detailed lists of loves/hates so that we can all gossip about it ;-) Actually, I think directeur did a really nice job at this, so I won't make another joke tonight (It's weekend over here, never take the Dutch serious on a weekend) - Alexander van Elsas

@robert - i am very upset that you do not care about my facial hair :) - MG Siegler

I'm sorry MG, I didn't mean to pick on you! I think the real preference parameters that FriendFeed itself should seek to automate are on a scale between "chat room" on the left and "information service" on the right. Most people are probably in the middle. The beauty of it in theory is everyone gets to do exactly what they want, which is as it should be! P.S. 1 more vote for no goatee ;-) - Robert Seidman

Thanks Alexander :) I see what you meant! And this could be a nice feature but to be activated on user's demand. I mean you'll decide to publish your neighborhood settings and gossip and laundry ;-) - directeur via NoiseRiver

ha ha, voted counted. but i do agree with you, a filter between personal and business would be useful, but would also make things more complicated probably. noiseriver is interesting, tried it out a bit, need to look at it more. - MG Siegler

Thanks MG Siegler :) No issue or bug so far? - directeur via NoiseRiver

@directeur - looks good to me so far, only gave it a brief spin. will look more later today and let you know if i find anything amiss :) - MG Siegler

this is sweet! - m.0

MG Siegler: Thanks a lot again :) m.0: happy it pleases that much! :) - directeur via NoiseRiver