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Mary Carmen
This afternoon my daughter decided that crushing graham crackers into the furniture was a fun idea. In related news, I love my new vacuum.
at least it was something dry? - Big Joe Silence
tell me about your vacuum. I still need one with good attachments for furniture and also to do the stairs. - Laura Norvig
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
tonight may very well be one of the all time worst professional moments of my life. the event was a train wreck of things gone wrong. boss was pissed. I was just deer in headlights useless. locked myself in the office halfway through and bawled. it was ugly.
upsides: no one died nor got arrested. my volunteers were champions of rolling with the punches. and I didn't screw things up with the mayor. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
hang in there. - Mike Nencetti
hold the phone... bossman just texted to thank me for my hard work. ok so then I have no fucking idea what happened. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
It's rarely as bad as we think, doll. - MoTO: #TeamMarina from Android
Ouch. I'm sorry it was rough. Glad bossman saw it differently than you did. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Just because the windshield is covered in bird crap doesn't mean the whole car is. Wait a bit till you hop out to evaluate :) - Johnny
Self evaluation suck! Be well and tell that little voice in your head to go to hell... - WarLord
*hugs* Maybe you can debrief with boss and volunteers over the next couple of days. But I'm sorry that tonight was so rough on you, my dear. *more hugs* - vicster
I like Johnny's analogy, strange as it is. Courage, sister. *passes out shot glasses* - Corinne L
*hug* ++for Johnny's analogy. - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
**hugs** I'm sorry things were so awful in the thick of it. - Jennifer Dittrich
(((Tamara))) - Jenny H. from Android
**hugs** - Kirsten
thanks so much everyone. it truly was an ordeal and I'm glad it's over. I'm not sure how much longer I'm in for this new gig. I'm waiting for the "wtf" message about all the SNAFUs. I think the text last night was a brief moment of courtesy that isn't going to last long. Also: for the record, I'm not an event planner, nor do I want to be an event planner, and how the hell am I now an event planner? That's MY wtf message. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
and ditto ++ for Johnny windshield analogy... that's a good one. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Yikes. I hate all the anxiety that it must have caused. Hugs! - Yolanda
Event planning would be near the bottom of my list of unfavorite careers so I hear ya. Networking and maybe informal "event" planning is one thing. High expectation events? NOOOOOooooooooo - Laura Norvig
Tamara, I've done my share of event planning/support for nonprofits, so if you need to vent about specifics or brainstorm ways to address any wtf's they throw at you, give me a holler. - Corinne L
Stephen Mack
eBay to lay off 2,400, could split into three parts [San Jose Mercury News] - http://www.mercurynews.com/busines...
eBay to lay off 2,400, could split into three parts [San Jose Mercury News]
From the article by Jeremy C. Owens, published at 1:33 today: "A PayPal spinoff isn't enough for eBay -- the company now plans to lay off thousands of workers and split off yet another independent company as its auction site suffers. eBay announced Wednesday afternoon that it would slash 2,400 jobs, about 7 percent of its global work force, as it struggles to bounce back from a cyberattack that forced all users to reset their passwords. The e-commerce giant will also split off its eBay Enterprise business, which manages online sales efforts for other businesses." - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
Kevin Fox on twitter: "The day after Obama singles out EBay as a jobs creator in the State of the Union, EBay announces 2,400 layoffs." (https://twitter.com/kfury...) - Stephen Mack
[Liking to follow conversation. Do not like.] - Laura Norvig
Yeah, this is a bad one. Personally, I've never used eBay and never really "got" it. But it's surprising to me they're attributing the drop-off in customers to the password change. - Stephen Mack
I'm a sometimes eBay user. A few times a year. I had completely forgotten about the password thing. - Brian Johns
I attribute the drop-off in users to the increase in other services. eBay stopped being a real "auction" site a while ago (yes, people do still auction things on there, but most of the listings are "buy it now" types of listings), and the whole "buy it now" type of listing is much better represented in places like Amazon now. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Recovering ebay addict -> - Greg GuitarBuster
eBay junkie, mostly for specific retro type things. Always pleased! - Janet from FFHound!
every christmas i spend way too much on ebay for whatever wade's latest retro passion is ... thunderbirds, pokemon, etc. - Laura Norvig
C to the A to the J..Hey!
This was going to be a #SaturdayFF but seemed more like a Confession. (Plus it's now Sunday.) I'm terrible at relationships. And I don't only mean the romantic kind. I've never felt like I was able to be a good friend. I feel I'm overly self-centered as I sometimes have a "sucks to be you" instead of "how can I help" response...cont.
...to people who want or may need my support. I'm terribly non-empathic and realize I just don't know how to respond to folks going through bad times. "Hugs" and "Thinking of you" just seem like words and I don't know how that could be supportive. - C to the A to the J..Hey!
I mean, I'm not a complete jerk. (At least I hope not.) I just don't know how to connect, or better yet, convey to people that I do have concern and caring for them. At least without feeling like I'm only spouting off platitudes instead of more substantial support. - C to the A to the J..Hey!
Having met you in person, I would say that you are not a complete jerk. In fact, you have approximately zero percent jerkiness going on. So there. - Jim #teamFFrank
at 41 I know I'm still learning at how to be good - or even ok - at all kinds of relationships. I have used very similar words to what yours about myself, especially the feeling of spouting off platitudes. And yet, I'm getting better at it and it's coming more easily, even if it doesn't feel natural yet. And yet, after the last year, I'm realizing that sometimes just knowing someone is there helps tremendously, even if there's nothing they can do. - ellbeecee
Thanks, Jim. People outside your head tend to have a better viewpoint. :) - C to the A to the J..Hey!
ellbeecee, I guess all we can do is try and perhaps the effort is thing that matters. I don't think we need to know for sure it helps, we just need to know for sure we're trying. :D - C to the A to the J..Hey!
This is belated, but Jim writes truth. There was no jerkiness in sight! - Larua Boats from Android
I totally understand the reluctance to offer, "hugs" or other words on social media, for fear they have such little meaning when not delivered in person. I often choose no response over one that I fear is empty. And then in person, it's not easy to say words of support either (although I'm capable of giving a real hug). - Laura Norvig
Laura Norvig
#saturdayff sparked by Stephen F-ing Mack's. Growing up we had a housekeeper come in a few days a week, but my mom still did a lot of ironing. The laundry room was in the basement and I liked to sit down there with her and look at books while she ironed. I sat there and asked about every word: "what does c - a- t spell?"
Then one day at breakfast she said she was very surprised as I rattled off everything on the cereal box. - Laura Norvig
When I got to Kindergarten, I was one of the only ones who could read. I was called upon to read to the whole class, which both enthralled and terrified me. - Laura Norvig
I distinctly remember that the book I read was both about a cat and shaped like a cat. - Laura Norvig
neat! - Marie
Awesome - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Heather
#SaturdayFF The most angry my dad has been with me was a half day in middle school when I went downtown for lunch "without permission." It was winter so I got chewed out about how I could have been frozen in a ditch somewhere.
BTW, I asked if I could go to McDonalds the day before. Going downtown for lunch was the cool thing to do on half days. - Heather
I remember those days in middle school! Walking to fast-food restaurants was the business on minimum days. Not so much fun now. >_> lol. Also, if that was the reason your dad was at his angriest with you, I'd say you were a pretty great kid. :) - AHnix (Anna Haro)
We used to walk to the pizza place in elementary school which was half a block away but sooo not allowed. - Laura Norvig
Anna, my dad earned an easy kid after my 2 half-siblings. My school was across downtown, so getting lunch was kind of on the way home but took a while. He got home in the afternoon so he was expecting me to be there already. - Heather
Starmama
My friend who took Daisy has an upstairs neighbor who's living there on false pretenses under her mother's section 8. The owner has conflict with her, the other tenants don't like her. Andrea thinks she will be put out soon and is telling the owner wonderful things about me :-)
It's walking distance to Angie's house, and the elementary me Angie & Andrea all went to in kindergarten & 1st grade - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
*crosses fingers* - Kirsten
Daisy aldı Arkadaşım sahibi onunla çatışma vardır annesinin bölüm 8. altında sahte orada yaşıyor bir üst katta komşusu olan, diğer kiracılar onu sevmiyorum. Andrea o yakında konacaktır ve benim hakkımda sahibi harika şeyler anlatıyor düşünüyor:-) - Loki
OMG, Yes, Yes, Yes ... praying for you ... does the owner know about these false pretenses? (Not suggesting the bad karma of ratting someone out but honestly, she is taking spots away from awesome families like yours.) - Laura Norvig
I'm not sure what he knows of it but I have a feeling Andrea is ready to snitch lol. I agree that it isn't fair when I've complied with everything required of me while this chick & her mom are getting over. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
fingers crossed! - Anne Bouey
That would be super cool! - SAM
Added to my prayers! - Janet from FFHound!
!!! *positive path vibes* - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.16.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Listening while having my nails done for tomorrow - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
Tony Fadell is taking over the Google Glass project? http://slate.me/156j1Ib Is it dead or not dead? - J.C. Bouvier
here - Keith Teare
I'm here for the first time in months now that im employed and busy! Excited to be back again, did the podcast get discontinued? last show posted was back in Oct - Matthew Voshell
Hi all. I am happy I can make it today. I know this is annoying, but is it so hard to put the show on a feed? In my part of the world its usually friday night and sometimes there is other stuff to do. Besides you often change schedule so I miss a show every now and then. I don't write this to offend you, just liking the show and I want to watch as often as possible. So keep up the good work (and bring back the feed). Thanks! - Ludwig Ederle
@JC I'd imagine he'd take over all hardware.. why else would they have grabbed him up? - Matthew Voshell
Audio is broadcasting... - Matthew Voshell
@Matthew true that...but they did already have him w/the Nest acquihire no? - J.C. Bouvier
@JC one would hope they get rid of OEMs and build thier own stuff from now on.. too much cannibalization; yea they did for the getting into out our homes, but doing that AND selling motorola, who was supposed to be thier hardware manf, you'd think they are just switching out moto for nest designs - Matthew Voshell
Glass isn't ready. New product later this year - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
john - we can hear you. - Steve Gillmor
Yah, I suppose - I'm still not convinced @GOOG should be in the hardware business... - J.C. Bouvier
@JC also a valid statement - Matthew Voshell
I meant isn't dead. - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
Listen to G3 where we discussed Glass yesterdY - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
I think glass has it place, great for doctors and police in ferguson, MO, but prob not a consumer product - Matthew Voshell
I shut Scoble up - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
Yes, you did Francine! - christina sponselli
hello beautiful chat room - Steve Gillmor
Yo steve - Tom Guarriello
finally got a break to join... good timing - Jerry Schuman
G3 would love to see some of you come to our chat room usually on Thursdays. - Steve Gillmor
Feed for Gillmor Gang can be gotten from http://techcrunch.com/video... - Keith Teare
Keith, sorry the timing didn't work for the call yesterday - Jerry Schuman
except it's empty, Keith - Kevin Marks
JT must not have great upload speeds from the undisclosed cave; video is kinda jumpy but everyone else looks great - Matthew Voshell
yeah Steve knows when pretty ladies fly through the air - Steve Gillmor
the photo of scoble in the shower with glass on still haunts my dreams - Matthew Voshell
Topic suggestion: Nest integration coming to google now? voice commands etc - Matthew Voshell
Google's Nest ex-Apple guy will remove Glass front facing camera and sell to industry. - clive boulton
Glass stops selling the day after Scoble's birthday. Coincidence or conspiracy? - Alex de Soto
conspiracy! - clive boulton
ooops I was signed in as Steve - Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerry - no problem - Keith Teare
Yes you were - Steve Gillmor
sorry Steve;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin is right, except you can tilt your head up to turn Glass on, completely hands free. - Alex de Soto
Glass eye-watcher is a better wearable human computer interface than a watch - clive boulton
i know for a fact per a source that google is talking to police depts, but trying to figure out how to make it cheaper, police depts dont want to spend $2500 per - Matthew Voshell
right, but to talk to it you need to press the button, no? - Kevin Marks
Apart from Search and Gmail Google fails on creating other products - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Kevin.. can't you say "ok, glass" as well? - Matthew Voshell
Googlebase. Google+ - Moe Glitz from iPhone
insert immature joke here...., what body part do you want augmented? - Matthew Voshell
Matthew - using a different camera today -- old school. Sorry. Bandwidth seems OK from the cave. - John Taschek
what's it called? company? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Devs have sold Explorer for Epson glasses http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin... - clive boulton
Dropcams can be scary too if you forget to turn them off during parties! - Alex de Soto
@JT... yea i cant see your skin pores.. come on! ;) - Matthew Voshell
Epson glass is the real Joe 90 http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin... - clive boulton
Unless you connect to certain apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@kevinMarks... good crop you got growing behind you..tastey? - Matthew Voshell
very tasty - Kevin Marks
Nest has made a point of being about 'home automation'. Very frightened by all the dead bodies in Cleantech, I think. Thread protocol description also gets those 'consumer' and home words way upfront in all announcements to distinguish from Industrial IoT. First application for Smart Glass is clearly IIoT - so out of Nest comfort zone. NEST & Glass = Not a goToMarket match - No one is talking about that - Therese Sullivan
Unfortunately I heard the wearable camera's angle doesn't lend itself to a good perspective. - christina sponselli
I like "Hey Siri" but that misconstrued request is very evocative of Keir's "Open the pod bay door Hal!" - J.C. Bouvier
Sometime in May, I'll have Alexa in our bedroom. Amazon's Echo that is. - Alex de Soto
@Alex... i signed up for early release of Amazon Echo.. i'm genuinly exceited to get that for $99 - Matthew Voshell
Why spy on the Russians when they are walking down your streets - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Indeed Matthew. Willing to try it for $99. - Alex de Soto
Kevin's oranges look great - although his camera should be crisper to do justice to the great quality possible on this system - Roger Shepherd
@KevinMarks... i heard there are more cameras in London than in any other city in the world... true? - Matthew Voshell
At every opportunity those who would take away our security and privacy seek to do so. In Casablanca it's "Round up the usual suspects"; in the UK it's "Propose the snooper's charter". - Roger Shepherd
people will try new tech for a couple hundred bucks or less. But what Google did with Google Glass I think really pissed people off. Expensive to the user Beta test - Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine... when do you get in tomorrow? - Tina Chase Gillmor
i think that is true - Kevin Marks
Kevin knows how jelous I am over his oranges ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Tina... i think Kevin should send everyone oranges for a end-of-show fruit review - Matthew Voshell
Google is going headlong into becoming an actual utility. They just announced a 150M+ investment in a large solar array in Utah. - Jerry Schuman
but if you really want to win me over.... lemons! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina! - Jerry Schuman
Hey there Jerry! - Tina Chase Gillmor
first show in a long time for me. My startup has been keeping me swamped - Jerry Schuman
fun noises! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: Limoncello! - Alex de Soto
So no keys to the Walled Gardens - Moe Glitz from iPhone
ALex..... Yes! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Keith - "they're trying to make that illegal" - do you think they understand that level os subtlety? - Roger Shepherd
the lemon tree is next to the orange tree - Kevin Marks
holy moly. Kevin has oranges AND lemons. Meyers? - Tina Chase Gillmor
FBI was watching the man in OH that was planning that attack against the US Capital... they arrested him after he purchased the guns but had not committed a crime... all he did was speak out on twitter... slippery slop that your tweets are admissible in court? "your honor i present to the jury a tweet from the defendant, out for the night, lol, smiley face" - Matthew Voshell
Ok... enough fruit talk.... wait, maybe I can turn fruit talk into reck talk? - Tina Chase Gillmor
I meant tech talk - Tina Chase Gillmor
Barack Obama and David Cameron fail to see eye to eye on surveillance British prime minister takes tougher line on internet companies than US president at White House talks on Islamist threats - Roger Shepherd
just use Tor... I do for most things - Matthew Voshell
Only this time the Reds are embedded inside our countries - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Steve's pretty aqua blue shirt looks white. I think i have a lighting problem - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Steve... no.. unless they let people vote via a smartphone app.. then you'd prob see a very different congress and policy - Matthew Voshell
I do care. I don't want the crims to syphon off my banking and other commercial dara. - Roger Shepherd
The Grauniad yesterday: A secret US cybersecurity report warned that government and private computers were being left vulnerable to online attacks from Russia, China and criminal gangs because encryption technologies were not being implemented fast enough. - Roger Shepherd
If I could vote with my smartphone I would be voting more often and probably feel more engaged - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tor was breached -- at least in theory - this past summer. Any impact? - John Taschek
darn I missed a good drink take - Tina Chase Gillmor
ISIS is Using Social Media to Reach YOU, Its New Audience http://www.thedailybeast.com/article... - christina sponselli
dept of Veterans affair takes over a year to patch critical vulnerabilities that should be patched within 30 days.... govts are always behind and with the exponential growth of tech is showing how far behind these govts really are; it doesnt take much to breaking most govt networks... - Matthew Voshell
Doesn't Tor exist only to provide a lot of traffic to hide the communication of spys? - Roger Shepherd
And Smart Drones - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Don't get me started about trying to work with govt agencies on their websites. Yuk. Glad that's over. - Laura Norvig
And then there's A.I. Check out what this group of thought leaders is up to: http://futureoflife.org/misc... - Alex de Soto
@John i haven't heard about that but regardless if its breached the traffic is bounced around so breaking encryption wouldnt matter.. right? i could be completely wrong on this - Matthew Voshell
**** FREEDOM **** - Jerry Schuman
He's right... people willingly give up data making zuckerberg and other rich... they aren't making us - Matthew Voshell
now the government can have an "FBI" file on everyone. used to be just a few - Tina Chase Gillmor
Topic suggestion: Facebook for Work, mock-ups released yesterday, thought about it for my company but can you trust the data on there not ending up in wrong hands via corp espionage http://techcrunch.com/2015... - Matthew Voshell
It's called a Facebook Profile, Tina - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think the breach allowed insight into the data wrapped up by the onion servers. I don't know enough -- it's still better than almost everything. - John Taschek
it's me. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Xfinity rules! - Tom Guarriello
moe - yes, exactly - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Steve... south park has your back https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Matthew Voshell
Facebook & Twitter not doing enough to take down a lot of ISIS Propaganda - Moe Glitz from iPhone
talk about the mad rush to unbundling which industry said would NEVER happen - Jerry Schuman
Nor did the Lego move - christina sponselli
but jaimie foxx won for Ray right? - Matthew Voshell
Guys I hate to say this. But I do not think African Americans need to be concerned these days about Oscar nominations - Tony Stanislawski
Wait...Aren't we in a post-racial society...? - Tom Guarriello
Apparently the Oscar Nominations are 'All White' - Moe Glitz from iPhone
They are more worried about what is going on in the real world - Tony Stanislawski
isn't Selma up for best picture? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Director of "Selma" on the daily show, great interview http://thedailyshow.cc.com/episode... - Matthew Voshell
Symbolism, Tony, symbolism... - Tom Guarriello
Yes. Selma is up for Best Picture and Best Song. - Alex de Soto
Most Blacks these days are saying what Civil Right movement? - Tony Stanislawski
I know Tom! - Tony Stanislawski
Yea... Chris Hemsworth know tech? ooooooooooooooooooooooooook, what hacker looks like that? i bet he doesnt even drink Monster energy drink in the movie - Matthew Voshell
Roger - I do think they are quite sophisticated - Keith Teare
Just frustrating....If this show talks about Oscar nominations then it needs to talk about Ferguson... - Tony Stanislawski
Master Chef Junior is the place to identify talent!!! - Tom Guarriello
In 1975 The Homebrew Computer Club launched the PC Revolution. 40 Years later we should honour those visionaries. http://t.co/BgolM6ZqyW - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Have there been any updates on the Sorkin Jobs movie? So bummed Christian Bale passed - Matthew Voshell
Woz and Jobs checked in. Even Bill Gates - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Do watch "Ida." Nominated for Foreign Language Film and Cinematography. It's on Amazon now. Amazing cinematography. - Alex de Soto
That was Alex Scoble on FB - Tony Stanislawski
"junk science" PONO - Tom Guarriello
The Scoble thread about Pono in Facebook is hilarious. Arguing with his brother tl;dr - Laura Norvig
Got in a big fight with the Birthday Boy - Tony Stanislawski
Coke Pepsi redux... - Tom Guarriello
Pono is crazy expensive too...kinda funky design...Neil Young is still the man though.. but old age might be catching up to him - Matthew Voshell
that's the same in our house. I hate that - Tina Chase Gillmor
Ella doesn't like loud music - Tina Chase Gillmor
Coke! Pono! - Laura Norvig
The Sorkin Jobs Movie looks like a remake of the previous one - Moe Glitz from iPhone
+1 Laura - Tom Guarriello
@Moe... Sorkin wrote it... and he said previously is going to focus on 3 points in job's life... i have faith in the writing.. but it has to be played by the right person.. Bale was perfect from both attitude and looks... - Matthew Voshell
Should do a movie when Jobs returned to Apple, up until he sadly died - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Moe what i've heard is that it starts with him debuting the iphone and then having flash backs during the speech - Matthew Voshell
Regarding quality - I really like Tidal - sounds much better than Spotify - Roger Shepherd
If Scoble was here this would be a good fight. :) - Tony Stanislawski
Things sound great on my Alexa from Amazon! - Tony Stanislawski
I'm bluetooth from my macbook to Jabra Move... $99 sounds great with 12 hour battery - Matthew Voshell
True Matthew. But it still covers the same time period as the Aston Kutcher version - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Meanwhile, the music itself... - Tom Guarriello
Have a nice weekend y'all! - J.C. Bouvier
Yea.. .called his life haha what did you expect.. no i think they'll leave chunks out.. who knows.. Sorkin will teach us the ways to write well, which includes cocaine and 20 showers a day (google it) - Matthew Voshell
Heard it's the iPod like the other movie - Moe Glitz from iPhone
HD has the same issues with compression... ESPN HD is amazing but Fox's is AWFUL, idk what compression they use - Matthew Voshell
gosh I love when nerdy men spout out model numbers - Tina Chase Gillmor
@tina LOL - Tony Stanislawski
Those are fighting words, Marks!! - Tom Guarriello
Vinyl is making a comeback too http://theweek.com/article... - Matthew Voshell
which relies on compression, recording, players, headphones... so many variables - Matthew Voshell
I really liked the way HBO recorded the live music on Treme. You felt that you were right in the room. - Alex de Soto
the cable co's vary compression by channel to save bandwidth, yes - Kevin Marks
Uh, that's not just in tech ... - Laura Norvig
Oh sure. When Sheryl says what women are always saying, well then people notice - Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Facebook At Work anything more than Secret Groups? We use those for our classes and they work very well. - Tom Guarriello
Over to the Enterprise answer from John - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Tina what do you think about being a woman in tech? - Matthew Voshell
The joke about Facebook at Work is that there already a product that does it. It is called Facebook. - christina sponselli
Tricaster long pause. Maybe comcast. - clive boulton
Im on the periphery not so much in th trenches. BUT my friends are constantly talking about how much they are up against shitty attitudes - Tina Chase Gillmor
Secret Facebook Groups are great for sharing information amongst affiliated groups. Lots of functionality, of course, and everyone's familiar with the interface. - Tom Guarriello
Yea is like secrete facebook groups with a newsfeed.. plus do companies trust put thier info on there? - Matthew Voshell
Why would Work colleagues use Facebook@Work when they can just shout across the room to them - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I put FB at work in context with revelations from Snapchat conversation post-Sony hack. Getting ready for bubble pop finds them running for shelter into the enterprise. Right, @KevinMarks like Slack. Video chat has great potential in the enterprise for same reason as Google Glass, eg facilities operations. Blogged about this www.buildingcontext.me - Therese Sullivan
Very hard to trust - John Taschek
what does salesforce use? - kat turning
Chatter - Kevin Marks
+1 Therese Sullivan (enterprise cover when the bubble pops) - clive boulton
turn that shit off, Boys - Tina Chase Gillmor
the products are great... but people have to use it.... which is hard for employees over 30 - Matthew Voshell
It heard us talking about it ... (Slack) - Laura Norvig
we use TeamworkPM and link it to Google Drive - Matthew Voshell
@Matthew - not sure I agree with the ageism but for reluctant users you basically have to put something they HAVE to get behind the tool. They'll get used to it. - Laura Norvig
@Laura.. i agree.. but ive been spending the past 3 weeks at work explaining to our older sales force (45 and older) and i have to teach them repeatedly how to even add a video call to a google cal invite let alone our PM/Sales cloud software - Matthew Voshell
Ha, that's actually pretty advanced ... where I work there's a lot of email attachments. smh. Even though we have Chatter and Sharepoint. - Laura Norvig
right, having a good document repository is hard - Kevin Marks
@laura.... hahaha yep... care to join me when i bash my head against the wall over and over again? :/ - Matthew Voshell
sharepoint is not a good one, Quip or Google docs are better - Kevin Marks
John Taschek is sinking - Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeah, Sharepoint makes it hard to convince people they should use a system like that. - Laura Norvig
I wrote a thing today about indieweb tools: http://www.kevinmarks.com/we-like... - Kevin Marks
we use google drive and ive setup a google site but no one ever looks at it... JT has it right... i'm having to reteach these guys how to work... they are stuck in the old paradigm... - Matthew Voshell
slack with gdocs integration is quite good - Kevin Marks
Our CEO solved email attachment's. He had the IT guy disconnect the exchange server and put into in a taxi, then fired the IT guy. Kick ass! - clive boulton
It takes a ton of training, adoption from the C-suite, and sometimes mandated practices. I guess. Or I could just go work with people who understand cloud repositories - Laura Norvig
@Clive that is awesome! - Tony Stanislawski
@Kevin slack is great... but seems to be better suited for Devs etc, was tough sell to my workforce - Matthew Voshell
Where was the taxi going? - John Taschek
Kevin has a great gigle - Tina Chase Gillmor
@John It went to where I work and more broadly the educational systemt - Tony Stanislawski
I love this topic! - Tony Stanislawski
Kevin is right... living on the line b/t synchronous/asynchronous world is the tight rope i walk daily - Matthew Voshell
lost sound - Kevin Marks
can you call me back tina - Kevin Marks
@Steve exactly - Tony Stanislawski
I can't hear steve - Kevin Marks
@Tony. The exchange server was in Ohio, exchange server taxied to Boston. Took them 6 weeks to get it back after they had learned to dogfood our own Chatter/Sharepoint. - clive boulton
and Franco is still dead. - Laura Norvig
Laura he, he, he - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Clive Awesome Sauce@ - Tony Stanislawski
consumption vastly out weigh productivity. said Kieth. very good comment - kat turning
call back again - Kevin Marks
What happened to Box? - Laura Norvig
callme kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
#2? - Kevin Marks
yay - Kevin Marks
next couple of week - Apples results are due out week after next.... .they'll cause discussion and debate (whatever the results0 - Roger Shepherd
finally got Kevin back - Tina Chase Gillmor
Enterprise software morphs to cloud-enabled hybrid-SaaS. Google Search Appliance! - clive boulton
@Keith I am with you! - Tony Stanislawski
Apple Watch will be the game changer - Tony Stanislawski
It might incremental but it will start the change - Tony Stanislawski
tony - what's your take on the watch? - Tina Chase Gillmor
First Watches will be made cool again - Tony Stanislawski
Which is a big deal - Tony Stanislawski
@Tony i have my doubts about watch... kinda see it as the Tesla Model S, it works, its nice, but expensive and only certain people can afford it... - Matthew Voshell
350 starting - Tony Stanislawski
not sure that is an argument - Tony Stanislawski
Google has lost its vision by removing Google Glass - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Google needs to innovate the search experience. Feels stale. - clive boulton
most people don't buy pricy watches - Kevin Marks
That haves will have it..it will get cheaper...and change the computing paradigm - Tony Stanislawski
That's pretty funny, Moe! - John Taschek
My guess - Tony Stanislawski
but those who do will buy apple ones - Kevin Marks
Google making a spectacle of itself without Glass - John Taschek
haha! - clive boulton
A glasshole without glass is just a hole - John Taschek
ok dick tracey... i mean tony - Matthew Voshell
Lol john - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@JT... Yes! lol, Proctologists Dream, wall to wall assholes - Matthew Voshell
Show sure is different without Robert - nb not better, not worse but DIFFERENT - Roger Shepherd
Scoble's most famous photo has to be in the shower with glass - clive boulton
nama the show!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Google's Search UI on Mobile sucks - Moe Glitz from iPhone
RIP Rock Scully ... - Laura Norvig
@Clive - I had only recently erased that image from my memory, and now it's right back there - John Taschek
Stuck in the 90's - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The search UI is fairly bad -- but the mic UI is good. - John Taschek
I'll try the next Glass. It will be better UI - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
@John - exactly! sorry:) - clive boulton
And maybe Barry Sless who plays with Moonalice and DNB ... - Laura Norvig
See ya'll next week! - Matthew Voshell
Google's search experince hasn't changed since Marissa oversaw it. - clive boulton
@Laura. Cool if Chubby Wombat guests on the Gillmor Gang. - clive boulton
yes it has clive - Kevin Marks
Not very much. Marrisa was the Vice President of Google Product Search until the end of 2010: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - clive boulton
Starmama
Except when I lived in a studio, I've never had a TV in my bedroom. The sloth enabled by streaming shows & games & movies while in my bed is why. This is ridiculous. And comfy.
My bedroom TV broke a year ago. We haven't replaced it, but I keep seeing these tiny nightstand projectors on my dramas and I want to get one. I could watch my movies & shows flat on my back. - Anika
I don't like it because sleep hygiene. But then sometimes I'll watch a movie on my laptop or even iphone so me = hypocrite. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Steele Lawman
Least-favorite made-up verb: Onboarding.
Overboarding. - Joe
AGREED - lris from Android
I'm almost nostalgic for the days when I just hated utilize and finalize. - laura x
operationalize always makes me twitchy - Hedgehog
Just use it daily for the next three years until it sounds normal. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Operationalisation is the most astounding noun of all time. - Deborah Fitchett
Palletize! putting stuff on pallets at the end of Food Factory and some other food manufacturing show is always referred to as palletizing the boxes of food. I still twitch when I hear that one... - WebGoddess
Part of it is that when I hear "onboarding" I think "waterboarding." - Steele Lawman from Android
what steve said - Laura Norvig
Andrew C (✔)
Every single time I see a Californian write about how great a Chipotle burrito is, I get a little sadder for 'em.
Maybe it's a gateway burrito. Like white zinfandel is a gateway wine for some folks. - Corinne L
El Farolito!! - Gabrielle
I'm not sure you need a gateway burrito, though. - Andrew C (✔)
Many of us do not. However, I have relatives who refer to tortillas as "burrito shells." These folks may never progress past a Chipotle burrito. - Corinne L
Come to think of it, when Steamrollers (Vancouver burrito chain) opened up, they had diagrams showing customers how to unwrap a burrito. - Andrew C (✔)
At the fake Chipotle's in Beijing, the tray liners also had diagrams for burrito consumption. - Jessie
Oh, I don't mind Chipotle in far-flung regions. They're expanding to Vancouver and honestly, even with a couple of good Mexican family restaurants there, a chain that's actually trying and has more meat options than ground beef will probably be good for the area. I just question why there are Chipotles in SF and LA. - Andrew C (✔)
A Chipotle just opened up in my town. There is a very specific type of clientele that seems to be flocking to it. The kind that think Panda Express tastes amazing. - Hookuh Tinypants
our university students voted Chipotle the best Mexican food in LA. They also voted Panda Express as best Asian. The future is doomed. - Marie
We have a Panda Express and a Chipotle right next to each other down the street from us. I will admit to partaking, even though I know what real versions are. It's just good versions of the real stuff are a drive. - Eric - ill subliminal
I was bemused when a chipotle opened in Santa Cruz, but it's no different than Taco Bell existing, I suppose. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
The Chipotle by us (also right by a Panda Express, imagine that) is constantly busy. My mom & I tried it when they first opened and it was okay but while we were eating we kept talking about all the taquerias and trucks in the neighborhood that are better. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
When my parents came to SF from Chicago in 1966, my mom had never even seen a taco. Even from Taco Bell, Mexican food was an exotic treat for her :-) - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Aww... I like Chipotle. Although I usually just get the plate and not a burrito. But if Chipotle is to Mexican as Panda Express is to Chinese that really gives me pause cause Panda Express is just downright horrible. - rönin
I don't think it's horrible. It's boring. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Taco Bell is Panda Express IMO. Chipotle is... well, there's no American national chain of upscale fast casual Chinese food. - Andrew C (✔)
Pei Wei? P.F. Chang's? - Big Joe Silence
Dunno what Pei Wei is. PF Chang's is Chinese Cheesecake Factory. (Which, come to think of it, I don't think there's a Mexican variant on Cheesecake Factory.) - Andrew C (✔)
El Torito is the Cheesecake Factory of Mexican Food - Anika
^this. Chevy's and On the Border also qualify. - Corinne L
I stand corrected! I guess nature really does fill every available niche. - Andrew C (✔)
i've never been to Cheesecake Factory. probly part of why i'm not dead yet. - Big Joe Silence
Chevy's is more like the Ruby's of Mexican Food. - Anika
PF Chang's seems to be a salt factory, tossing bits of semi-Chinese food into the mix. Ate there once: overpriced, hostile to a single diner, and SO DAMN SALTY (as verified later in nutrition labeling) that one entree was four days' sodium. - Walt Crawford
I've also visited PF Chang's once. Once. I had to shake my head when we ordered 3 dishes and they all tasted pretty much the same. - rönin
Yup. - Big Joe Silence from Android
My friend who grew up in the Bay Area but now lives in So Cal gave me an explanation for why he eats at Chipotle that actually makes a lot of sense to me: he hasn't been able to find good dry burritos here in L.A. that doesn't come from late night taco trucks and he's not a big fan of wet burritos. - Victor Ganata
I eat at Chipotle because I know what I'm getting when it comes to ingredients (yes, there was the recent carnitas debacle, but I don't eat carnitas). I'm very sensitive to certain additives, so while I love authentic taqueria food, it's pretty much guaranteed to give me a bad reaction. - Corinne L
Corinne, that's fair. And Victor: so he should get them at the taco trucks... right? - Andrew C (✔) from Android
Andrew, yeah, but what are you supposed to do when you want a burrito between 2 am and 8 pm when the taco trucks aren't around? - Victor Ganata
Tacos Mexico! - Anika
They have decent midday trucks IME. In some areas, I guess. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
I have similar feelings about Starbucks and coffee. - Holly's favorite Anna
Starbucks is tricky: Peet's (the original in this category) was a pioneer in making non-swill coffee readily available in more cities ("swill" from a famous SFChronicle headline), but these days many places have indie coffeehouses that understand good arabica beans and don't roast them to death. - Walt Crawford
I almost hate to mention the chain that made fresh, decent coffee readily available everywhere. Let's just say *they* deserve a break today on that particular issue. - Walt Crawford
Laura Norvig
Trip to urgent care to remove stubborn tick from Wade's neck. Was not the Lyme disease kind. But required nova sine and digging to get that sucker out.
Novacaine, autocorrect, you dummy - Laura Norvig from iPhone
:( glad that they got it out though - Sir Shuping is just sir
Yikes! I'm glad it wasn't the Lyme disease tick, but still...yikes! - vicster
:( - Larua Boats from Android
Yikes. I got a tick on the back of my neck hiking in Tilden park. We checked the dogs but not the kids, lol. My parents took me to a hospital by our house. Right inside the ER in the hallway was a doctor smoking a cigarette. !!! the 70s. He burned the tick off my neck with his cig & we went home :-) - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
That is hilarious, Starmama. Always heard about holding a hot match head to the body but never tried it. I think if you kill it instead of getting it to back out it's no bueno. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Victor Ganata
I am still not convinced infinite scroll is a great idea.
I kind of hate it - Eric - ill subliminal
I'm fairly convinced it is not. - bentley
I hate it so much. - Jed
who said that? - Pete
It can easily ruin my entire day. Easily. - Hookuh Tinypants
I dislike it and turn it off whenever I can. - John (bird whisperer)
Just go to the footer to determine how to turn off infinite scroll.... Duh. - Joe
Not a fan at all. - Corinne L
Scroll to the bottom to click the contact/copyright/sitemap/anything else you desperately want to click, but can only momentarily see, and are not quick enough to click. - Michael W. May
Why? Pages are artificial, take screen real-estate, hurt performance, and don't fit a world where data is update constantly. - Todd Hoff
Hate it. 1) because you can't get to the footer 2) because so much data on one page 3) because you can't provide a meaningful permalink to discrete data. Todd, a page can be designed to pull updated data without having to be infinite scroll. - Laura Norvig
There's really no sense to a bookmark to a page when the underlying data set is always changing. And footer stuff is better in some sort of about page than wasting valuable screen real-estate, especially in a mobile world. Agreed on the last part, a page and infinite scroll do roughly the same thing on the backend, but the infinite scroll does make more sense when events are dynamically updating something like a twitter stream. Did I convince you? :-) - Todd Hoff
Maybe it's specific to iOS, but the worst part is when the page size gets so huge it starts triggering refreshes in all the other tabs I have open. - Victor Ganata
Page-search doesn't work on a page that isn't all there. - bentley
Can't stand it. - Greg GuitarBuster
sparklemotion - Big Joe Silence
I don't mind it where appropriate and when the designers have remembered that yes, this means they have to put the footer content elsewhere. I *don't* like it when you're on a news site and scroll down to the bottom of the article and suddenly you're on another article. - Deborah Fitchett
Joe
Joe
I want you all to know that I am committed to building a more just, verdant, and peaceful world.
Been listening to NPR, huh? - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE from WinForFeed
Joseph R., John T., and Catherine D. - Marie
I was thinking that I have not heard anyone use the word verdant in a sentence in like forever. Then, reading a book this morning, the author uses verdant. Maybe I should read more. - Joe
On a whim, I just tried to visit their website at "macfound.org". Sadly, it doesn't work, unless you put the "www." in front of it. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
that is a big pet peeve of mine (the www thing) and, sadly, typical of foundations and smaller nonprofits. - Laura Norvig
The last time I looked (maybe 15 years ago) there were annoying technical reasons (dns and cookies) to favor putting the website at www.herp.derp instead of at herp.derp :-( - Amit Patel
I worked for a restaurant, for a spell, that served a burger called "The Verdant Angel". The owner/manager wore a cocktail dress during lunch hour. - Brent Schaus from iPhone
but Amit, isn't it relatively easy to have some kind of mirror or redirect so that both URLs work? - Laura Norvig
Sure, web servers redirect both address forms to the same backend code. At one time the www was needed so it wouldn't conflict with other services like smtp.herp.derp on the same box, but that's long past. - Todd Hoff
The Other Yvonne
Logan doesn't play Minecraft yet, but watches YouTube videos about Minecraft whenever he gets the chance. It's all he talks about. I'm so sick of it already. If Minecraft was a person I'd punch it in the face.
*fistbump* - Marina's Godmother :-)
It's actually easier when they do play it, because then at least they're more likely to be doing it instead of talking about it! - Marina's Godmother :-)
*fistbump* back! - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
My son sits here and watches people play it on YouTube. I don't get it. - Eric - ill subliminal
I'm afraid he'd then want to PLAY it all the time. That would drive me over the edge. - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
I play it and watch people play it. Then again people play football in the park then watch other people play it on TV so I'm cool with it. - Johnny
I used to stand and watch people play Pac-Man so I get the appeal, but I guess today it's just so much more content. It's such a big industry. - Eric - ill subliminal
His personality (he's 6) seems to be the more he watches the meaner and more disobedient he becomes. He's like an angry drunk. It creates more conflict in our home life. He needs more activity than he realizes. - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
The live streams on twitch.tv are popular too. It's interesting watching different designs. - Rodfather
Yvonne, yes! Minecraft can't be at the expense of physical activity. OTOH ... - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Resistance is futile. Honestly, if you learn about it enough to set it up so he's just building stuff instead of playing as a game, it's pretty creative. But yeah, Wade talks about it a lot. I pretend to listen for awhile and then perfect the art of tuning it out or just break it to him that I don't want to hear about it. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Both my kids play and while my son typically isn't a very talkative person, he once jabbered to me about Minecraft for 2 hours straight while I was driving somewhere. No breaks. I am not exaggerating. He also watches one particular series of Minecraft Youtube vids and it's gotten to the point where I can't tell if the stories he tells me of what he's done in Minecraft is stuff he's actually done or he's just projecting himself onto these vids that he's watched. - rönin
Crazy how it's taken hold of so many! I'm sure we'll give in at some point, but not yet. =) - The Other Yvonne
Hahahaha, Stampy friggin' Longnose and iBallistic fecking Squid. Josiah knows if his behaviour falls below acceptable levels then his iPad is the first thing to go. There will be days when it seems everything he does is Minecraft related, but he might mix the actual activities up even though they all revolve around the same thing - so watching the videos, playing the game, reading the... more... - Melly
And awesome kids book about computer games is "But It's Just A Game", helps teach kids about balance: http://www.amazon.com/But-Its... - Melly
Thanks for the recommendation, Melly! - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
OMG, Melly - Stampy! His voice drives me INSANE. Before him it was these two guys who were much more mellow and easy to take. I miss those days. - Laura Norvig
Jayden talks at me about Pokemon, the Marvel Universe, Yu Gi Oh, Sonic and friends, all his obsessions...constantly. Every day. Ad nauseum. I care about none of it. He knows, and doesn't shut up. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
I'm okay with discussing it occasionally. But they seem to get stuck on it. don't they? I try to steer the conversation elsewhere but it doesn't always work... - Melly
I've told Logan he can only watch Minecraft videos once a day during the school week. Hopefully then we'll make it to the end of the week unharmed. =) - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
I played Skylanders with Josiah today. Together, one mission takes about half an hour. That I can handle. I've tried Minecraft and just can't get into it! - Melly
I think Minecraft is great. It's digital legos. Except you can't walk around inside lego buildings. - Bruce Lewis
Bruce, you can if you have enough legos. - Amit Patel
Today Josiah keeps talking about the Pokemon texture (?) pack in Minecraft. His interests are melding, help! - Melly
Melly, there's a mod called Pixelmon that Wade plays - sounds like he and Josiah have a lot in common. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Funny you should mention that - Josh is getting it for Josiah this weekend as a good behaviour/helper reward ;o) - Melly
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.09.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
room for me today? - Kevin Marks
the hell with this errands, I'm going to listen in! - Darius Dunlap
Here - Keith Teare
It always starts like this... - Doc
Hey, Doc. Big week for you! Congrats on New Clues! - Tom Guarriello
Thanks. Congrat @dweinberger as well - Doc
Of course! - Tom Guarriello
Is anything on ustream yet? I'm guessing not, but don't wanna check and hose the connection. - Doc
Test pattern and now sound - Tom Guarriello
There they are... - Darius Dunlap
Hey David and Doc looking forward to this today - Dale Lature
oops. back to test pattern - Darius Dunlap
Is Zuckerberg watching! - clive boulton
Clive: He's busy reading not watching! - Alex de Soto
I'd rather know what Doc and David are reading - clive boulton
Hey David! - Tom Guarriello
Blues Clues - Kevin Marks
Yep. and tweeted it! - Darius Dunlap
I've read it. And Dave Winer's Listicle - Francine Hardaway
there now, dig that header graphic - Jerome Hughes
Hey everybody! Happy new years! - Chris Hale
Cat Herding should be mentioned, for sure! - Tom Guarriello
Too much living in the past. I'm out. - Thomas Rector
TGIF people. - J.C. Bouvier
hey Y'all! - Tina Chase Gillmor
I do remind folks that the Web is not just what Google indexes. - Alex de Soto
good to see you all here in 2015! - Tina Chase Gillmor
HNY, Tina - Tom Guarriello
thx Tom - Tina Chase Gillmor
Apps vs. Net comin up - Tom Guarriello
Doc if you could tilt up just a tad. great. you over corrected. - Tina Chase Gillmor
other way - Tina Chase Gillmor
The four big boys Google, Apple, Facebook, and Amazon (or GAFA) - clive boulton
great thx Doc - Tina Chase Gillmor
I have the laptop in a drawer to make the background work. - Doc
Why aren't we talking about CES ? So much stuff came out this week - Chris Hale
Apps to me are what makes the web alot more powerful and contextual - Chris Hale
Chris - we will round up CES next week. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Connectivity v. Silos seems like the theme - Tom Guarriello
oh gotcha. But wont all the stuff from ces already be obsolete? Hehe. This industry moves too fast sometimes - Chris Hale
Internet needs a few more open protocols - Chris Hale
plague of auto-play ads that stall and don't stream right are the worst ever. - clive boulton
especially for video and audio - Chris Hale
ChatCenter is http and URLs - Keith Teare
Advertising needs a new way of thinking on Mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Yahoo might remake advertising buy CNN and flow ads from mobile to TV? - clive boulton
I agree Moe. - Chris Hale
i think beacons will change a lot of that. I worry advertisers and companies will ruin a perfectly cool technology - Chris Hale
scroll to the bottom of http://www.kevinmarks.com/newclue... and see the interactions - Kevin Marks
darn, i missed Keith hitting himself - Tina Chase Gillmor
Apps simplify the web - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I just fell off - Kevin Marks
call me bac - Kevin Marks
ill call you back - Tina Chase Gillmor
there you are - Tina Chase Gillmor
no video - Kevin Marks
in some ways, yes it simplifies the web but it i think the point Steve G keeps making about the importance of notifications as part of that simplification is starting to get seriously cluttered. - Chris Hale
App bubble in the tech economy about to shrink or burst? - christina sponselli
Apple app designers currently having robust debate about economics of today's app world - Tom Guarriello
did yall hear that figure that just came out that the IOS app store clears like 500k a week worldwide? - Chris Hale
Yes, some apps also support those Values... Think reading and sharing apps that allow various workflows for bookmarking, organizing, research, writing, thinking.... - Darius Dunlap
Interesting that the clues harp on apps and ads but don't have anything to say about "public relations" - Frank Paynter
Brands need to stop advertising to Consumers and engage with us more on mobile. If they do that then they will get our name, our payment details and our chat walls - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Steve, i tweeted you a link to a picture of the Cluetrain Books- the original and the 10th anniversary update - Dale Lature
Frank, we hoped that jpeople could take the too many clues, and run off and add their own. We actually took on PR pretty bluntly in Cluetrain the book. Didn't want to repeat ourselves. - Doc
2015 iOS based Macbook coming -- (a definite maybe) -- no App bubble! - clive boulton
i think the problem is that technology can do some scary stuff and there is very little governance about limits to how advertisers should use data they have collected. I think don't be creepy never enters advertisers minds. They really need to think about this stuff more - Chris Hale
Maybe the app bubble is apps available only in company stores. - Doc
Beacons - Moe Glitz from iPhone
cat pulled my headphones out - Kevin Marks
1:30 in Santa Barbara is leaf blowing time. Damn. So noisy... - Doc
+1 Doc. Salesforce apps! - clive boulton
Cats taking over the internet. - Alex de Soto
minimum viable centralization (nice one Doc) - clive boulton
centralization problem, it sucks all the profits from the edges and connections (music industry) - clive boulton
That was Brian Behlendorf's line, clive. Credit where due. - Doc
homphily, that's called. Ethan Zuckerman's Rewire book. - Doc
Is Steve still here? - Doc
Steve's been disappeared... - Tom Guarriello
The next mobile app that can create the best Brand Experience between Consumers & Businesses. Will become the next pillar of Social Media beside Facebook & Twitter for Brands - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Everybody is now this guy: http://www.acceler8or.com/tags... - Doc
Brian Behlendorf's MVC line concise business plan for startup - clive boulton
All the stuff hanging off that guy is on your phone now. - Doc
May even be featured on Brands labels - Moe Glitz from iPhone
hm. the version I reposted still hase the evil inclinations bit http://www.kevinmarks.com/newclue.... - Kevin Marks
This is not an all-happy wall: http://www.truste.com/us-cons... - Doc
i really feel like i wish more stuff on phones was centralized - Chris Hale
the problem I have with RSS isn't the web - Kevin Marks
like, i have 6 apps to run all the automation devices for my apartment - Chris Hale
not good for simple home automation - Chris Hale
and id still love one app that i use for any text based communication with people - Chris Hale
since now there seems to be 50 ways to contact people, sms, tweet, fb , google+, whatsapp, yo, and too many more - Chris Hale
Chewing the fats - Moe Glitz from iPhone
people navigate those deliberately though - Kevin Marks
deep linking is good but not a cure for this problem - Chris Hale
Apps are the new TV - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Growth at firms like Salesforce will peter out w/o decentralizing SaaS. Mobile apps case in point. - clive boulton
i know Kevin,but from an efficiency and overal user experience it is kinda sucky - Chris Hale
Chris Hale - Tantek has an interesting concept, the contact page as an app... http://tantek.com/contact.html - Darius Dunlap
the silos don't want you to interoperate though - Kevin Marks
there was a point where they were all using xmpp, but they forked - Kevin Marks
Like TV - Moe Glitz from iPhone
yes darius - Kevin Marks
+1 david! - Doc
yeah Kevin. I hear ya. I have been considering building my own app this whole thing irks me that much. Thats part of why i built my own home automation framework. Everyone elses system has a lot of gaps - Chris Hale
silos need incentives to interoperate (Judy's built Epic Systems EHR profits on silos) - clive boulton
Thank you Steve! Authoring today is easier for the average human being! - Simon Benvenutto
I do wish folks wouldn't perpetrate the idea the GoDaddy crap sandwich is inevitable. Support and promote Hover.com and other good vendors. - Darius Dunlap
do you think people want more apps or less apps? - Chris Hale
More Chris - Moe Glitz from iPhone
are we still on the air? - Doc
can you hera us? - Kevin Marks
They don't search on Mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Not here - Tom Guarriello
oops. feed down - Darius Dunlap
i am middle of the road. Sometimes i get frustrated when i look at my app screen and see apps. I find myself having to use spotlight search on my iphone almost all the time to find a particular app - Chris Hale
Down in London - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Steve just cut out in UK - Simon Benvenutto
are we dark on the 'cast? - Doc
hang on, the tricaster crashed - Kevin Marks
rebooting - Kevin Marks
Steve is rebooting us. - Doc
Yep, Chris. likewise here... - Darius Dunlap
But the best apps really do provide a better workflow and experience. - Darius Dunlap
aha. I finally figured out how to get on the backchannel. I want a badge. - david weinberger
Especially for those of us who want to do more than read and listen. - Darius Dunlap
Will iOS Macbook take us further down the rabbit hole... - clive boulton
Steve thinks we're 90 secs away from reboot - david weinberger
+1 david - Alex de Soto
no such thing, Clive. - Darius Dunlap
Meanwhile, Doc seems to have invited a leafblower into his living room - david weinberger
It's the sponsor's fault... - Doc
Welcome to the REAL Gillmor Gang, David - Tom Guarriello
The five of us are taking the opportunity to swig some cheap bourbon - david weinberger
ARe we back? - Doc
I never thought the web was particularly democratic: it is server centric, you always surf alone, you need an IP, HTML skills, etc. Nowhere near as democratic as a free, open, P2P medium such as CB radio :) that's yet to be realised, on a global scale. - Simon Benvenutto
We seem to be up on ustream. No? - david weinberger
But an iPad, especially when outfitted with a keyboard (because I'm an old guy who types fast) is a really useful tool. - Darius Dunlap
refresh ustream to see us - Kevin Marks
Video no audio - Tom Guarriello
Not yet, Darius - Apple keeps back fitting iOS features to OS X... - clive boulton
Steve, we lost you when you were commenting about Facebook and video. - christina sponselli
yes - Keith Teare
steve is initializing tricaster. a few more secs - david weinberger
no volume - clive boulton
Still no audio here - Tom Guarriello
no audio for me - Graham Zulauf
working on the vid - david weinberger
Yep, no audio here, either - Darius Dunlap
can you hear us? - david weinberger
an you see us? - david weinberger
Tommy? - david weinberger
yes - Dale Lature
(old man reference) - david weinberger
Audio is back - Alex de Soto
Sound back! - Simon Benvenutto
how about video? - david weinberger
audio is back for me - Graham Zulauf
Yes...it's Pink Floyd... - Tom Guarriello
we hear you - clive boulton
video is working - Graham Zulauf
Steve=Pinball Wizard? - christina sponselli
Yep, Clive. But that's a long way from "iOS Mac". They're not dumbing down the mac, but bringing some really useful integration to the workflow of multiple devices. - Darius Dunlap
ah ha, you're still there! - Laura Norvig
So weird. We've NEVER had the Tricaster fail like that. It wasn't our power. - Tina Chase Gillmor
and some more levels of control via app store in Mac OS X - david weinberger
email, and even newsgroups... :-) - Darius Dunlap
I just love the way Kevin says "Twitter". ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
There's too many Apps on iOS and Android for someone to ignore bringing apps to the desktop. - clive boulton
Totally agree with Kevin... Ev does a nice job taking about some of this in his recent post. - Darius Dunlap
As long as their friends are there. - christina sponselli
I agree the app stores and the web in general are becoming very nanny state, its less about communicating and more about transacting, which is sad... that's the price we are paying for great cheap infrastructure, compared to 15 years ago. - Simon Benvenutto
Well said, Keith - Tom Guarriello
+1 david weinberger "some more levels of control via app store in Mac OS X" - clive boulton
Yep, Simon and David... agree about App Stores. They (especially Apple) need to think deeply about what they are for and how they should work for users. - Darius Dunlap
That flavor of idealism is hard to imagine amongst human beings, Keith - Tom Guarriello
Tom - I'm still hoping :-) - Keith Teare
And, I applaud you for it, K - Tom Guarriello
Missing from enterprise is some way to orchestrate apps into a suite collection on/off the desktop - clive boulton
slack does that to some extent - Kevin Marks
Aren't we dependent on the control of ISPs anyway? - Alex de Soto
looking at slack - thx Kevin - clive boulton
Human beings are imperfect. But the New Clues remind people who weren't there at the beginning that there WAS a philosophy - Francine Hardaway
A lot of it has to do with being right. - Darius Dunlap
Dave's listicle was easier to read. - Francine Hardaway
Thanks, francine - david weinberger
I shared it with people who said tl;dr - Kevin Marks
+1 Francine - Tom Guarriello
It's related to Powerpoint - Francine Hardaway
yep, like the listicle - Laura Norvig
+1 on the philosophy, not specifically the listicle - Tom Guarriello
Dave's a talented guy. I just wished he worked and played well with others - Francine Hardaway
It makes the Cluetrain a franchise, like Terminator - Francine Hardaway
Or, Hunger Games! - Tom Guarriello
They're baaaaaack! - Tina Chase Gillmor
chrome team is working at bringing Android Apps to chromebook. Apple / MSFT can't ignore. - clive boulton
Lovely irony - Darius Dunlap
That's small m vs. Medium - Tom Guarriello
One could compete with Medium with Large. - Doc
I LOVE Medium. But I've always been a Ev product fan - Francine Hardaway
“Live the values you want the Internet to promote.” http://www.kevinmarks.com/newclue.... - Kevin Marks
Is that like being the change you'd like to see? - Francine Hardaway
That's one of my favorites, too, Kevin. That's the Gandhi Clue - Tom Guarriello
Still prefer tumblr to medium - clive boulton
Don't leave any ice picks around, Keith. - Doc
Keith Teare: Venture Trotskyist - Kevin Marks
Did you get approval on piece before Medium published it? - christina sponselli
Keith is way left - Tina Chase Gillmor
when Keith says "can I pick your brain", watch out - Kevin Marks
It's always a question of size ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Heyo! Trotsky jokes, amirite? - david weinberger
Trotsky was "picked" he never did the "picking" :-) - Keith Teare
+1 for Kevin's Venture trotskyite - david weinberger
Oh crap, we're all gonna die - Tina Chase Gillmor
Fuck those yellow spores! Hooyah! - david weinberger
I told you: Hunger Games!!! - Tom Guarriello
Medium too trendy already. Used to be cool ... - Laura Norvig
If I bring a smile to Doc's lips ikt's all been worthwhile - david weinberger
Doc's right. It keeps moving - Francine Hardaway
Medium: nobody goes there anymore...it's too crowded - Tom Guarriello
I agree with Doc, and I'm hopeful, but in human society there are always those looking to profit from manipulating the system. - Darius Dunlap
It's not about apps. It's about open vs. closed. - david weinberger
And individual vs. copllaborative - david weinberger
And consume vs create - david weinberger
An app world that did that would be fine - david weinberger
It's closed that doesn't survive. THat's why the companies fall - Francine Hardaway
I thought Medium is how you deal with site-deaths. - Todd Hoff
I want an app that eats itself and leaves crumbs on my screen. - Doc
My favorite apps are all about that, David. And they are mostly on Mac and iOS. - Darius Dunlap
Apps are a red herring that the New Clues raise -- but it's a herring that stands fsor an important school o fish - david weinberger
are there apps that are open that aren't just glorified web interfaces ...? - Laura Norvig
Yep, David. - Darius Dunlap
Back we go to notifications - Francine Hardaway
+ 1 Keith. iOS back-fitted to OS X and swallows apps (or makes apps available on desktop) - clive boulton
Yeah, Dudes. What about notifications? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Clue 125: Notifications are Conversations - Doc
"Companies make a religion of security, but this is largely a giant red herring. Do you know how tough it is to worship a giant red herring?" - Gluetrain - Kevin Marks
Cool addition, Doc - Tom Guarriello
it's being managed by Scarlett Johansen. duh. - Laura Norvig
Clue 126: No, wait, conversations are notifications. - david weinberger
The Gluetrain was fun. We need him back for New Clues. - Doc
Steve has enterprise instincts. - clive boulton
"Markets are money." - Gluetrain (I think) - Doc
Actually, David, that's traditionally more true - Francine Hardaway
+1 Gluetrain. We need New Glues - david weinberger
Tina, I have to drop off at 2.35 - Keith Teare
Keith, you've got 10 minutes - Francine Hardaway
Gluetrain is excellent! - Tom Guarriello
Steve it's 2:23.... We're probably at 1:18 of actual show - Tina Chase Gillmor
Glad David is expanding on this... "App" as a proxy for something bigger - Darius Dunlap
Kevin's train of thought, snowballs for open source enterprise apps - clive boulton
Are we ahead? - Francine Hardaway
Have a great weekend all! - J.C. Bouvier
Good point, Francine. I think so. The clues are in the apps... - clive boulton
Next time, David, we talk Heidegger! - Tom Guarriello
Clue #127: Are you the armadillo or are you the bike? - david weinberger
Clue 128: What?? - david weinberger
you just daleked out for me - Kevin Marks
What happened to the housekeeping? - Francine Hardaway
Name this show: Venture Trotskyist's - clive boulton
Can you still hear us? - david weinberger
nope, feed is dead - Darius Dunlap
great show.......hanging on every word.......thanks Doc and Dave, and Keith, Steve, and Kevin....great conversations - Dale Lature
+1 "Can you still hear us? - clive boulton
the backchannel lives. - Doc
I really think GG should have an "AfterDark", at least for the live listeners. ;-) - Darius Dunlap
Unfortunately, I've got to run. Ciao, all! - Darius Dunlap
There's usually a brief check-in with the faces on the show before turning it off. That went fast this time. - Doc
Sorry I joined thischat so late. - david weinberger
Okay, I need to disassemble this rig on a drawer and move the laptop. Been great, everybody. - Doc
But thanks for it. - david weinberger
Apparently I have to clean up my office. - david weinberger
So long. - david weinberger
bye chaps - Kevin Marks
bye - Doc
Amit Patel
The State of the Birds 2011 San Francisco Bay - Habitats: Managed Ponds - http://data.prbo.org/sfstate...
The State of the Birds 2011 San Francisco Bay - Habitats: Managed Ponds
The State of the Birds 2011 San Francisco Bay - Habitats: Managed Ponds
"Commercial salt ponds were constructed around the edge of San Francisco Bay beginning in the mid 1800s. Many former salt production ponds in San Francisco Bay have recently transitioned to public ownership and are being restored and managed for wildlife. These shallow ponds now provide habitat for hundreds of nesting terns, gulls, and shorebirds, and roosting and feeding habitat for hundreds of thousands of migrating and wintering shorebirds and ducks." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
Saw a magnificent Great Egret yesterday out our kitchen window and thought of you, Amit! My husband said later that day he saw a big hawk sitting on the power line out back. The back of our house is next to a marshy green belt. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Laura: awesome! We get some hawks and egrets, but lately it's been Band-Tailed Pigeons. - Amit Patel
Laura Norvig
You gais, how do you work out in the middle of the day? I want to swim, but I want to eat.
When I briefly tried lunch workouts, I'd exercise first (for 30-45 mins) and then gobble food at my desk after. It was a bit trying. I now prefer to exercise at the end of the day. - Stephen Mack
I did it (cuz pool is right downstairs). Problem is, there is also a hot tub, dry sauna, steam room, nice showers ... so it is pretty tempting to linger. - Laura Norvig
Ha! I don't know if we can help you with the lingering part, but yay! - Larua Boats from Android
Because of the intensity of my workouts, I have to time all of my meals right. So I don't take a break to eat. I pull out my "lunch" at 10:30am and eat while I'm working, so that by 1pm when my training sessions start, I am digested and have the energy to complete the workout. I then follow up with a protein snack to help with recovery and keep me going until I get home to make dinner. You get in the habit of treating breakfast and lunch as biological functions, and dinner like a proper meal. :) - Hookuh Tinypants
Back when I was working, I'd nosh at my desk while working then use my lunch hour to either walk to the gym and work out (in one work situation) or go to a back room and use a video workout (in another work situation). - Spidra Webster
Andrew C (✔)
RT @matthewjdowd: This is insane. Prison population in US has increased 800% in 40 years. What a waste of human beings. http://t.co/0HqW2IzK34
RT @matthewjdowd: This is insane.  Prison population in US has increased 800% in 40 years.  What a waste of human beings. http://t.co/0HqW2IzK34
I'm thinking drug laws have a lot to do with that. - Mary Carmen
Especially when in tandem with 'three strikes' laws. - Jennifer Dittrich
Yup. - Mary Carmen
Not only that, the largest percentage of drug-related incarceration is for weed. http://m.huffpost.com/us... - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Meg VMeg
Even Netflix has trouble with findability from time to time: http://gothamist.com/2015...
This is great on a couple levels. - kendrak from Android
So does it say anywhere what happened? Search index corrupted ? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
My guess is they rank stuff based on popularity, and since Friends is new it got buried. - kendrak from Android
It cracks me up that searching with dots works. Do they OCR the thumbnails or something? Because in the image associated with the series (what would have been the cover of the DVD) it says "F•R•I•E•N•D•S" - Meg VMeg
See also M*A*S*H - DJF from Android
True, but M*A*S*H is the name of the show. This is just a stylistic thing on the DVD box. - Meg VMeg
Depends on how you define "stylistic". It's right in the opening credits, which are where the catalogers go to look for titles. But then, MASH was an acronym. Friends - HD - Opening Credits - Season One: http://youtu.be/TgP8v60X23c - DJF from Android
Yep, you're right, someone cataloged it this way, here's an example of a URL for an episode: http:// www.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid=70153404&trkid=13752289&tctx=0,12,f.r.i.e.n.d.s.:a4f604d3-dca5-40f6-b889-3ac79f3e5b15 HILARIOUS! LoC does it right, though, because duh: http://lccn.loc.gov/n95092477 - Meg VMeg
Beauteous. - laura x from iPhone
I love you guys - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
AACR2 does have rules about ignoring the typographical design of the primary source of information if it's clear that the design is not relevant. Examples include odd or no capitalization. And this is clearly a case where an added entry would be critical (MASH always gets one, I'm sure) - DJF
THE EDUCATION OF H*Y*M*A*N K*A*P*L*A*N http://3r2w3j857xo417y9435rs2c... - bentley
yup. Those are definitely supposed to be there, from what I remember of the book. - DJF
Yep. One of my favorite books. (The original ones, of course. I read somewhere that the one-volume edition was entirely rewritten, so I'm afraid to try it out.) - bentley
Hyman Kaplan puts the L in LOL - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Morton Fox
OtherInbox email isn’t going away just yet. Apparently, they’ll keep it going until end of March. But I’ve already moved most lists off it.
Hmm didn't know it is dying. Will have to redo those lists. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Cristo
What other social networking/Web 2.0 sites do you use besides FriendFeed?
Bumblr, Snickr, YouTuba, but nowhere any good. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Or anywhere no good. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Nothing you haven't heard of. :) (Twitter, Flickr, FB...need to spend more time learning Quora and Reddit). - Spidra Webster
Flickr - WarLord
I tried out Ello. - Stephen Mack
Twitter, Twitter, and more Twitter. Also Github. - Mike Chelen
FB and Twitter. Very occasionally G+. - Jenny H. from Android
What Jenny said - Laura Norvig from iPhone
FB and rarely G+. - Anne Bouey
Twitter and FB, a little bit of G+ and Tumblr. - Melly
Livejournal. - bentley
not sure what you mean by web 2.0 but I hit twitter every morning for a quick scan of the news, feedly for the blogs I want to read, and tumblr is a distraction for my increasingly fractured mind. I think of tumblr as a glossy magazine where I flip through the pages. - MoTO: #TeamMarina
Feedly, Twitter, Tumblr and Facebook. Oh, and Ello, from time to time. - Steven Perez from Android
Yeah I guess I should add that I do use Facebook to interact generally with family and a few friends. But Facebook's noise to signal ratio is too high for me to use it for much else. - MoTO: #TeamMarina
plus.google.com, news.ycominator.com. I keep intending to use facebook but don't generally get to it. I caught up with Instagram yesterday, thanks to the fact that I'm only following something like 4 people there. - Bruce Lewis
g+ and feedly. - imabonehead
G+ daily, Twitter 2-3 times a day, FB once or twice a day, but only really active on FF. (As with MoTO, FB's mostly for family. - Walt Crawford
Twitter and Google+. - Louis Gray
None. I'm a purist. - Steve C Team Marina
Barry, I'm not sure what I meant by Web 2.0, other than there are sites that have some social component to them, but are not really thought of as social networks, e.g. Yelp. - Cristo
What are people's impressions of Ello? - Cristo
Wasn't ready for beta. Very few features at beta. More now, but no users. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Just Twitter (for light use) -- not Facebook or Google+. Still waiting for any other service to catch up with Friendfeed -- and for the next generation of a Friendfeed-like service to appear -- someone is bound to develop it. - Sean McBride
Any interesting features that FriendFeed doesn't have? - Cristo
screensaver. - imabonehead
I've got a huge list of features to add to Friendfeed that I've collected since 2007. I need to pull those notes together and post them as a single document. - Sean McBride
Facebook - Ozgur Demir
I just checked out the latest Twitter analytics features -- great stuff. A future version of a Friendfeed-style social media platform should include analytics at this level (and better) for all individual and group feeds (*especially* group feeds, which are ripe for hundreds of analytic snapshots). - Sean McBride
Sean, I'm interested in your feaure list. - Cristo
Italian Friendfeed like service: http://www.frenf.it/earlyad... - miki
Geocities - Maurizio
Heisenberg -- give me a few days to find time to compile it -- the notes are scattered across six or seven years. - Sean McBride
My admiration and love for the brilliant design of Friendfeed continues unabated -- in fact, it keeps increasing as I compare it to new inferior services. - Sean McBride
Has everyone noticed that Friendfeed is often more efficient than email for private one-on-one and group communications? Much less cruft. Much swifter. Much easier to browse over time. Also superior to text messaging in many cases, in terms of interface. - Sean McBride
Sean, you should look at Slack if you have a group of people that interact. It's better than FriendFeed for a slightly different application area. - Cristo
Will do. - Sean McBride
First, quick impression of Slack (I need to look at it much more carefully): conversations on Friendfeed pages are much easier to navigate and read. - Sean McBride
Twitter. Hardly ever FB, except the last couple weeks because Gail. Slack for WP stuff - I'm an aspiring theme reviewer. Omg the noise there! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Louis Gray
Let the annual airing of grievances begin for Festivus 2014!
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Short order cooks who are tall. - Spidra Webster
Sand worms and bolted-on love stories In Hobbit films - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Mac laptops with stupid fake logos or covers on the apple in TV shows. - Louis Gray
PCs with the Windows logo on the monitors in TV shows. TV shows using Windows Phones as the only phone. - Eric - ill subliminal
SUVs that claim to be hybrids. - Louis Gray
Festivus for the rest of us - حاج آقا تایغر زاده
Cities that claim to want to solve traffic and housing woes, but refuse to build new residential property. - Louis Gray
Selfies. - Louis Gray
People who say sorry, I'm not sorry. - Eric Logan from FFHound!
traffic - Laura Norvig
Those people - you know who you are. - Steve C Team Marina
Isn't this joke getting old? I mean, how many years have we been doing this now? - Bruce Lewis
Double standards - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
People who click "Like" on this post. They're grievances; how can you like them? - Bruce Lewis
Ordering an egg and cheese breakfast sandwich and they don't bother to toast the bread. - vicster
Fitbit trackers that under report steps. ;) - Ken Gidley from iPhone
California state workers who act like they own the sidewalk around Capitol Park at lunchtime. - Corinne L
People who say traditions are getting old. - Louis Gray
Gasoline leaf blowers. - Louis Gray
Using mayonnaise instead of miracle whip on my sandwich by accident! - Joe
Tiny dogs with big barks. - Louis Gray from Android
Meta-meta-meta grievances. - Bruce Lewis
People saying it's cold when it's 60 degrees outside. - Eric - ill subliminal
shopping - Bruce Lewis
Being sore and blistered - Stephen Mack
Having to go to washroom at work for number 2 - حاج آقا تایغر زاده from Android
Rain. Drought. - Bruce Lewis
miracle whip - Laura Norvig
whip miracles - Big Joe Silence
Strip malls without strippers. - Louis Gray from Android
Flea markets selling no fleas. False advertising. - Janet from FFHound!
first-world problems - Kevin Johnson
An entire healthcare system in which access relies on a single website functioning properly, and no recourse when it doesn't. - April Russo
Clients that charge their clients $80 to $140 per hour for your web development work, but cry that they can't afford to pay you any more than $10.80/hr, and think it's fair for you to expect to "make it up in bulk". - April Russo
Whining whiners who whine. - Mary Carmen from iPhone
Canada. - Josh Haley
Facebook - MoTO: #TeamMarina
Know-it-alls - Meg VMeg
Companies who buy up really fantastic social media sites just for their dev team & then learn little from the superior social media site design they now own the IP for. - Spidra Webster
People who can't stay in their own gotdamned lane. - Hookuh Tinypants
Norwegian Christmas food. - Jenny H. from Android
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
RT @issarae: A day is automatically a WIN when I: a) wake up and; b) don't have to put on make-up.
Definitely worthy of #FeatsOfStrength. - Julian
that is every day for me. maybe it shouldn't be but ... - Laura Norvig
I was thinking the same thing Laura. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Stephen Mack
Live FF post for today's #fitbit100k challenge!
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Gah sideways - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Maybe not a great sign that you're already horizontal, but best of luck to you guys! - Eivind
5k done, 95k to go! Louis is a fast walker. Why are we so crazy? My right foot is a little sore. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Good luck, guys! - Jenny H. from Android
Good luck! :D - Jennifer Dittrich
Thank you! Dodging bicycles on the Steven's Creek Trail. 8k steps down in 75 mins. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
11k done. Louis is on his second Diet Coke. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
wait, how come he can drink a soda but you can't drink your coffee? nonsense! - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
He's more talented at drinking on the move than I am :( - Stephen Mack from iPhone
18k steps! Starting to feel it. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
20k steps before 9am! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Ken is with us now, yay! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
You need a straw - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
I do. 25k done! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Louis. Have a little mercy. Stephen, he is not the boss of you ... srsly, be careful guys. Have fun. - Laura Norvig
Thanks, Laura! 30k achieved. Louis is nearly 2k ahead of me because he doesn't stop moving when I tie my shoe or stop to pee. He. Is. A. Robot. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
He'll take you round the universe and all the other places too, Stephen! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
I think you're right, Hig. He's taking me 36k so far -- we're past the one third milestone. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Are you popping ibuprofen to prevent foot swelling/pain? - Meg VMeg
Meg, about to start. I have some blister goo on now thanks to Slacy. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Please consider a donation! https://www.firstgiving.com/fundrai... - Stephen Mack from iPhone
45k now! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
52.5k now. Louis is 56k. Stride difference or device difference? Also he keeps walking when I stop to pee. Grr! The difference is a problem. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Ken G. did 30k or more with us. Great job and thank you, Ken! Edit: 35k - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Don't take any ibuprofen! Rule of thumb when you're doing an endurance event (even walking or hiking). You don't take painkillers of any kind because they can cause kidney and/or liver damage (it screws with your hydration and sodium levels). You have to wait until you've had your first good pee after you've completed your endurance event before you should take a painkiller of any kind. - Hookuh Tinypants
Oops. Good advice. Too late. :( - Stephen Mack from iPhone
26.9 miles walked, 58.4k steps. A marathon walked in 10 hours. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
63k but Louis is somehow at 69,800. I can understand him being 2k or 3k ahead but he picked up 1,000 steps on me in the last 20 min while walking the same trail. Something ain't right. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Hmm. We did a test. He's currently getting 100 steps while I got 75 -- but we were walking side by side and matching strides. So I'm going to use his count. :) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
We're therefore nearing 75k. :) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
:-) - bentley
GO! GO! GOOOOOOOO!!! *shakes pom-poms* - vicster
Thanks, Vicster! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
4 hours to go. Dark again. Why did we do this on the second shortest day of the year. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
We just saw a fox. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I have a sneaking suspicion even Louis will sleep well when you're finished. - Eric Logan from iPhone
Stephen, what did the fox say? - bentley
Way to go, Stephen! I walked 200 steps today on one leg, exhausted. :) - Stephan from iPhone
80k! Just told a dirty joke. Louis didn't laugh. #robot - Stephen Mack from iPhone
You two are awesome! - joey
Thanks, Joey! (You're awesome too.) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
17k to go. Ankle really hurts on left. Roger is here! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I totally forgot to mention here that my sister walked four hours with us. She rocks. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
85k per Louis's tracker. We're literally on the home stretch. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
You are a mach daddy machine! - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
This is so cool guys. WAY. TO. GO. - SAM
Keep it up, guys! Awesome work! :)) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
90k steps achieved! Also extreme soreness! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
90K! Woooo! - bentley
92k now. Going slowwwww. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Go go go! Slow and steady wins the race my friend. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Thanks, Tamara, Scott, Mary and Betsy! Taking a bench break. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
*sends massaging calf muscle vibes* - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
You guys are in the home stretch! - Brian Johns
Too long a streeeeetch, Sparky. We're limping along now. Roger is holding both our backpacks. 93,857 steps. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Almost there! You've got this! - Jennifer Dittrich
Thanks, Jennifer. Nearly 97k. Last wind - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yay! You got this! - joey
Feels close! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
98,500 - Stephen Mack from iPhone
So! Close! - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Last 1k is dog-walking. :) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yay! I'm so impressed! - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Done before 10pm! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Good job! - Ken Gidley from iPhone
100,000 achieved! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Many thanks to Ken, Jo, and Roger for walking with us! And to everyone here for your support! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Congratulations! - joey
And to everyone who donated: THANK YOU SO MUCH - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Congratulations!!! You two are ROCK STARS! - vicster
Woohoo! Great job, Stephen and Louis! - Jenny H. from Android
!!! - Marie
congrats! - imabonehead
Yay!!!! Well done! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Congratulations, Stephen! - Stephan
Well done, guys! I hope you both are resting comfortably. - Corinne L
Thanks all! In the tub. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Thanks for being my amazing partner and for this thread, Stephen! - Louis Gray
This thread is epic! 1) Yes, I am a robot. 2) Yes, I bossed Stephen. 3) Yes, I laughed at his joke. 4) Yes, there was a Fitbit count issue, but I made 100k! 5) I am way sore and not sleeping... BECAUSE you know why. - Louis Gray
Woo-hoo!!!! Congratulations! - bentley
Let us know how your feet feel when you wake up. ;) - April Russo
Stiff, sore, slow. I am old. - Louis Gray
April: I slept in to 11. I think the technical term for how they feel is "not good." - Stephen Mack from iPhone
It's too late to advise you guys to ice your legs, but I recommend a hot bath with Epsom salts. Soak for at least 15 minutes. Make sure you get up and move frequently throughout the day. Doesn't need to be fast or long, just enough to keep your muscles from tightening back up. Do some stretches, both static and dynamic. And hydrate like your life depends on it. Also, pull up your Fitbit dashboard or app periodically and stare at your numbers for yesterday. Revel in that. :) - Hookuh Tinypants
Excellent advice, Hookuh! I did ice a bit before bath last night, and am doing some more ice today. Epsom salt bath soon. Good idea on the stretches. - Stephen Mack
I've found some short walks to be helpful for me today, along with the stretching. Not so sore that I need ice or espom salt baths today. Definitely had reached my limit yesterday and happy to have stopped then. Don't envy Louis & you today. - Ken Gidley
If by "short walks" I can qualify with "hobbling to and from the kitchen" then I can say I took several short walks today. Fitbit tells me I've taken 270 steps so far today. That's a litttttle bit different from yesterday. (BTW, when I got home last night and realized I needed to take the trash bins down, I was so mad.) - Stephen Mack
That's how I would have felt after about 7K, and it would take me days to recover. I try to stay between 3K and 5K on most days. - April Russo
Just remember - it's not the day after that kills you. It gets worse on the second day after. *runs away* - Hookuh Tinypants
Tinypants!!! (Shakes fist) - Louis Gray
I did more than 9,000 steps today, because I had to do Christmas shopping still, and take kids places. But I've not been dramatically exerting. Over time, the stiffness will subside. - Louis Gray
Just consider it a reminder of your awesomeness. :) - Hookuh Tinypants
Louis Gray
louisgray.com: FestivusFeed: FriendFeed Airs Your Grievances - http://louisgray.com/live...
louisgray.com: FestivusFeed: FriendFeed Airs Your Grievances
I found this fake comment I made 1 year and 1 day ago quite ironic at this point. (Reminded by Susan Beebe's thread) - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet
"Robert Scoble joins every network but this one." BUT I kept pushing... and here we are. :-) - Louis Gray
Louis - Wow, your pushing WORKED in a big way...Mike must hate you by now! - of course I love you for that :) - Susan Beebe
Here's the post in my thread Louis is referring to -----> http://friendfeed.com/e... - Susan Beebe
It took me 1.5-years to get RSS after Dave Winer first showed it to me. So, I am getting faster. Took me just a few months to get friendfeed. Glad you kept after me. - Robert Scoble
So how do I access it? <---I take that back. Didn't realize what I was looking at when I went to the site. - Mattie Kenny
Bring back Festivus Feed! - Shawn Farner
Yeah do it! :) - Susan Beebe
My favorite grievance: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Louis Gray
Robert, now we just need to get you to understand auto-follow (the SocialToo way) ;-) - Jesse Stay
LOVE! - David Cook
Josh: it was a seasonal thing last year at this time, so it is no longer possible. We may have to bring it back by popular demand, but for now the entries you see are all from last year. - Bret Taylor
Bret - bring back those cute little red icons next to the FF posts! easy seasonal "flair" feature! - Susan Beebe
and here we are... - Jesse Stay
Jesse I want to like this, but I already liked it in 2008! - Eric Florenzano
Whoa. How did I NOT like this in 2008. Weird. - Lisa L. Seifert
The comments about this on Facebook are illuminating. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Robert Scoble, joins, then leaves, every network, including this one. - Laura Norvig
What Laura said. - Louis Gray
Happy Festivus, everyone. - DGentry
People who revive dead threads. - Bruce Lewis
Laura Norvig
how to find the well-hidden "show typical traffic" feature in gmaps on the web. - Laura Norvig
it's unbelievable how hard they make it to find this. - Laura Norvig
plus, as far as I can tell, you can't tie it to a route, only to a single map coordinate and then zoom in or out. dumb. - Laura Norvig
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
I never paint my nails. The toxicity freaks me out, besides which my nails are kinda jacked from biting them all through childhood and my hands are freakishly small. Anyway, decided to paint my nails today. Four hours later after frustrating tears and a nap to recover, they're done and I hate it.
This is why I don't do these things. No one taught me how to do all the girl things, so usually when I try I feel like a ridiculous clown failure. Sigh. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
And on that note, I am headed to a holiday show at the rock club. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Oooof. That sounds like a frustrating day. I hope the show is a lot better! - Jennifer Dittrich
Tips on one hand didn't even survive the shower. They are kinda fancy shiny though, admittedly from a distance. But I swear I can smell them. And I'm sitting in a pizza joint, so there are many other smells to be had. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
There are some vegan eco-friendly polishes out there these days, so those might be worth looking into if you decide to try again. FWIW, I had to learn a lot of girl things on my own as well, so I know how frustrating it can be. Inhale deeply the smell of pizza goodness and enjoy your night, doll. - Corinne L
Thanks C. This stuff is supposed to be non toxic, which is why I got it. But yeah, you and Jennifer have the right of it. Pizza and holiday rock show silliness is the important part. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Can't do any girl things. Only painted nails once. ====> - Laura Norvig
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 12.19.14 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
hello there - Kevin Marks
hai Kevin. Happy Holidays! - Laura Norvig
Good afternoon! - Robert Scoble
"He talks to dolphins" The Interview | Sony Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch... - clive boulton
Waiting for the famous call. - Robert Scoble
TriCaster testcard up - clive boulton
Hi Robert! - Laura Norvig
wow, lots of rain suddenly - Kevin Marks
Congrats on the rain, Cali folks! - Tom Guarriello
hello folks! - Tina Chase Gillmor
it's a Black Mirror episode - Kevin Marks
Black Mirror is one great show. - John Taschek
Hi Laura! - Robert Scoble
It's more about obsession with media and the industry than it is just tech isn't it? I've only watched season 1 - John Taschek
How about projecting the movie across the DMZ to North Korea! - Alex de Soto
Great oranges and lemons at Kevins - clive boulton
what's going on ? Billabong Pipe Masters 2014 LIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch... - flyinthesoup
they're ripe now - Kevin Marks
I need to get into Black Mirror. Is it on Hulu or Netflix? - Laura Norvig
Clooney's piece was pretty good http://nuzzel.com/shareds... - Tom Guarriello
Netflix, Laura - Tom Guarriello
Black Mirror is on Netflix - Kevin Marks
Super reminder of how Silicon Valley was orchards - clive boulton
except the christmas special - Kevin Marks
the tree inbetween is an apricot tree, though that is much less productive - Kevin Marks
I used to pick a fresh lemon for G&T on my run around San Carlos. - clive boulton
I'm watching David Denby's Top 10 movies on Netflix. Saw Ida, watching Snowpiercer - Francine Hardaway
Hi everybody. Happy Holidays despite the hack! - Francine Hardaway
How is Snowpiercer - I've been avoiding it - John Taschek
Happy Holidays! - John Taschek
Snowpiercer is excellent! - Tom Guarriello
I've just started it. Interesting premise - Francine Hardaway
Snowpiercer is pretty entertaining if you can suspend disbelief... - J.C. Bouvier
No president has ever been wrong or lied or covered stuff up...my opinion is the movie will come out and all that the effort has done is make it the most popular, terrible/stupid never seen movie. - Josh Bradshaw
I have to suspend disbelief to get through everyday life, JC - Francine Hardaway
Tilda Swinton is fuuuuun! - Tom Guarriello
hee... - J.C. Bouvier
It will be on a torrent site - Francine Hardaway
I was thinking I would see "The Interview" by end of day no? ;) - J.C. Bouvier
Exactly Francine...probably a bounty for it. - J.C. Bouvier
The mall operators probably scared the theatre owners - Francine Hardaway
Don't you think the hackers have grabbed the movie in the hack? When will one of THEM release the film? - Tina Chase Gillmor
BitTorrent will make a comeback ... - John Taschek
As far as strategy goes, on the part of North Korea, this was a fail. Now, more people are aware of the oppressive and closed mindset of the leaders of their impoverished nation. - Josh Bradshaw
there will be screeners etc. out there already - Kevin Marks
Well, Kevin, send a link:-) - Francine Hardaway
And they will be passed around likes joints Kevin. - Alex de Soto
still no answers from the MPAA!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Sony did the right thing after James Holmes. Already 3 lawsuits filled. - clive boulton
"this film is not yet rated" is worth watching - Kevin Marks
Anyone care to share their thoughts on Evan Spiegel's Facebook predictions?http://www.businessinsider.com/snapcha... - J.C. Bouvier
+1 John's BitTorrent - clive boulton
J.C.: he has a point but Facebook is one hell of a company. Did you see Instagram is now worth $30 billion? - Robert Scoble
but what if the Hobbit people don't like THEIR movie? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: yes, I did see the valuation of IG, and I don't completely agree w/ES...I think there's more to Facebook than just mobile use ramp that eventually plateaus. - J.C. Bouvier
Damn, cut off just when it was getting interesting! (Skype crashed) - Robert Scoble
My Skype has been crashing lately. - Robert Scoble
How many IG accounts has Facebook pruned... - clive boulton
yik yak is huge. college kids - Laura Norvig
Clive: I saw a figure of 29m - J.C. Bouvier
FB is fearless. - clive boulton
the yik yak use case is also: where is the best party with free booze for underage teenagers - Laura Norvig
The Atlantic had a pretty good article on the death of the internet and used yikyak as an example - http://www.theatlantic.com/technol... - John Taschek
web you mean? - Kevin Marks
I didn't write it! - John Taschek
new vulnerability in the Yik Yak iOS application, http://silverskylabs.github.io/yakhak... - christina sponselli
What is this "guarantee of jobs" you speak of, Kevin?? - Tom Guarriello
They also had an imminent demise of Facebook because of apps like YikYak - it was a very interesting article - http://www.theatlantic.com/magazin... - John Taschek
they try hard not to employ anyone - Kevin Marks
People always get in the way - John Taschek
"they try hard not to employ anyone" must be axiom for tech going forward - clive boulton
orange AND a lemon tree? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Clive - the Singularity is Near - John Taschek
2 orange trees, a lemon tree, an apricot, an apple and a plum - Kevin Marks
John -- my focus shifted to apprentice learning algorithms for ERP (someone has to do it) - clive boulton
Now that's a good idea. It solves a need -- and it probably won't get done by the big ERP vendors - John Taschek
US Airways - Laura Norvig
isn't Ryan air in Ireland? - Tina Chase Gillmor
There is no place not to work now - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin, can I have one of your oranges? ;) They look really good. - J.C. Bouvier
ryanair ias based in ireland but flys across europe - Kevin Marks
I still sleep on planes. The Economist helps - Kevin Marks
Ha ha. Kim Jun Un's ringtone? - J.C. Bouvier
Kim You Know Who is playing the piano. - Alex de Soto
+100 on the Chromebook - Yes, real. - J.C. Bouvier
How many kids does John have? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Chromebooks are going after Windows. Wait till they go after Macbooks. Give me a bash! - clive boulton
Chromebooks are more affordable - christina sponselli
they have a shell - Kevin Marks
I just bought an Acer Chromebook for my daughter...her school is Chromebook, boy just asked for a Surface Pro 3 though... - J.C. Bouvier
They [dont] support the shell well - clive boulton
yes you can ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Try finding a Toshiba HD Chromebook 2 with 4 GB online. They've been selling well. - Alex de Soto
But if they don't do anything they don't want them - Tina Chase Gillmor
i thought they discontinued ipod touch - Laura Norvig
Chromebooks do Minecraft, Youtube, Education apps - John Taschek
my son dropped his in the toilet ... - Laura Norvig
Steve: Isn't everyone? - J.C. Bouvier
Will VR take off in 2015? - Alex de Soto
i dropped an nexus 7 in the toilet - Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin ~ will work on how to save a pem file to crosh prompt.... - clive boulton
they dropped the Hard Disk ipod - Kevin Marks
oh, please change my brain - Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook search. - Alex de Soto
the pager is back! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Oculus will throw me over into dementi - Francine Hardaway
Alexia, tablets for kids are already a thing ... but they always want the one that looks exactly like the grownup one. No substitutes. http://www.amazon.com/gp... - Laura Norvig
I'm on the board of a STEM charter school and every kid has a Crhomebook. - Francine Hardaway
Oh, and tell Alexia my grandchildren got my old iPhones at age 3 - Francine Hardaway
In the Sony leak, we found out that Snapchat bought some sort of Glass-like compnay - Tina Chase Gillmor
kids with iPad Minis are ubiquitous in the valley - Kevin Marks
Yeah, the folks who make Epiphany Eyewear. That wasn't gonna go anywhere, but Snapchat definitely will. Good move for them. - Robert Scoble
Samsung teamed up with Facebook-owned Oculus Rift http://youtu.be/hDFhp_U... - clive boulton
Amazon 1 to 2 hour delivery in Manhattan? - Alex de Soto
1 Hour Amazon? - John Taschek
the Snapchat guy was pretty upset about his info leaking - Tina Chase Gillmor
@laura I know, I'll just execute better than anyone else. ;) - alexia tsotsis
Of course you will @elexia - Francine Hardaway
A friend of mine gave me a "noPhone" for Christmas. No battery, no camera, no speaker, no phone. - Francine Hardaway
I need a good way to protect my kid from inappropriate content on youtube. their basic filter is not enough. - Laura Norvig
Manhattan toilet paper in 1 hour (that's a long wait in the loo for Amazon) - clive boulton
google focusing on under 13 is interesting - Kevin Marks
And Manhattan is the only place 1-hour delivery will work - Francine Hardaway
@Kevin, I don't see google pulling that off but it will be interesting to see if it goes anywhere. - Laura Norvig
This was an interesting article by Farhad Manjoo on the 'Erasable Internet.' http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014... - Alex de Soto
Pavni is very smart, I can see her getting somewhere wiht it - Kevin Marks
Of course, @alexia. That happened to Randi Z. - Francine Hardaway
Maybe 1-hour works in Vancouver,BC city center zips... - clive boulton
I would love it if my kid could own his own Youtube channel ... although since I have to host it, I get all the money ... - Laura Norvig
I always delete my Gmail - Francine Hardaway
Yah, John are you using Inbox? - J.C. Bouvier
How much for a GG mug? - Dale Lature from Android
I LOVE Inbox - Francine Hardaway
Sounds like a Cafepress store is about to open... - J.C. Bouvier
I don't like the idea of getting rid of my email. It's my file system, for godsake - Tina Chase Gillmor
Eric Schmidt didn't use gmail because the didn't want an archive - Kevin Marks
funny inbox is the exact opposite of the original gmail value proposition: never delete, just search! - Laura Norvig
I am no fool. I knew searchable email could get me in trouble. - Francine Hardaway
Seamlessness intensifies in 2015. Google has trained hundreds of developers all around the world on Android Wear and Polymer web components. - clive boulton
polymer is interesting - Kevin Marks
AWS is an IPO. - clive boulton
I wish I could watch amazon prime video on chromecast - Kevin Marks
Kevin: Popcorn Time w/AirPlay = joy. - J.C. Bouvier
airplay is no good, I unplugged the AppleTV - Kevin Marks
:( - Yah, I hate that remote... - J.C. Bouvier
the remote was no use - Kevin Marks
huh. so amazon shut google out and won't allow prime video on chromecast? - Laura Norvig
Oh stop, Kevin. The remote works. It's not great, but it works - Tom Guarriello
mine doesn't. I can't reconnect it to the appletv, and I can't configure the ipod touch as a remote without it - Kevin Marks
I like my Apple TV, mostly it's the kids losing the remote... - J.C. Bouvier
Wine time, happy holidays all! - J.C. Bouvier
The Americans is on my Amazon prime list. On Apple TV. - Tom Guarriello
Happy Holidays, JC! - John Taschek
My Amazon Firestick is backordered... - Frank Paynter
AWS success turning Amazon into a holding company. Distraction from the core mission. - clive boulton
Ringo. Solo artist. What a shonda. - Tom Guarriello
Basement Pink - Frank Paynter
Basement Tapes on Spotify - Tom Guarriello
Steve, are you going to get a Lincoln Continental so you can listen to Pono in it? http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars... - Laura Norvig
Microsoft turning Azure into the new Windows cash cow. Right core mission. - clive boulton
Good points, Clive - John Taschek
The Interview will be on Bitorent within a month - Tom Guarriello
will pirate bay be back - Kevin Marks
Does Fender make the Tricaster? - Frank Paynter
Salesforce turning mobile apps into distributed business applications. Right core mission. - clive boulton
Yo! is pretty amazing. Beyond my expectations. - Alex de Soto
Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble
Thanks John. - clive boulton
Pirate Bay ghost lives, Kevin! http://oldpiratebay.org - Tom Guarriello
Happy New Year all. - Laura Norvig
Enjoy the holidays! I'll have a Cuba Libre for you while in the islands. - Alex de Soto
I want a GG mug and I want one hour shipping :) - Dale Lature from Android
Happy holidays, all! - Tom Guarriello
IFTTT - I love it. Block-style automation. IFTTT should support Yo...No? - John Taschek
a name for the show? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Starbucks delivered by drone. Want! - clive boulton
Name this show: Freaks and Geeks (play on James Franco) - clive boulton
Laura Norvig
so ... trying to empty out my Mom's condo. My SIL is helping a bunch. She's also chosen a few small pieces of furniture that I was actually hoping to keep. Tomorrow is my day to work on this with my brother (her husband). Do I mention that I was eyeing those pieces also? Or do I just let it go?
I always feel like they did so much to help my mom that I kind of owe them whatever they want. I just felt miffed about the way she snagged them. Felt like I tried to mention that I was also interested and it went wooosh over her head. - Laura Norvig
Tough one. I'd say something to my brother just to know I did so and not have the risk of a lingering resentment. Then if it's something you can work out amenably all the better, but if not let it go. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
it's really not that big a deal, she's just a bit of a tough one to deal with sometimes. I'll probably be better off picking new furniture at home - not like these are sentimental pieces, they were just nice, useful, end/side/bedside table thingies. - Laura Norvig
You want I should talk to her? *cracks knuckles* - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
feeling good today - my brother KICKED ASS helping to empty the place. Tomorrow I'm pondering the books. Several thousand books. - Laura Norvig
luckily books are really easy to pack. If you don't stop to open them all and get lost in reading them! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Did you make a decision about the furniture? - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
My mom metnioned that when she and her brothers wanted something and more than one person wanted an item, names went into a hat. - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Even if it's not a sentimental piece, it may become one in time if it brings back memories. It wouldn't hurt to mention that you'd like to have something. - Anne Bouey
No, I am letting them go because although one of them is pretty nice, I want to be more deliberate about furnishing the new place. I'm taking two unfinished pine pieces, a dresser and a small cabinet, that will be useful. Taking enough sentimental art, china, knicknacks. Rudi, I can't bear to take the books. Feels like it should be all or nothing. I don't know. Will try to pick a box full tomorrow. Writing some blogs posts about it. - Laura Norvig
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