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Laura Norvig
I need to work on gathering tax documents. That is why I just vacuumed of course.
it is also why I will now do the laundry. - Laura Norvig
Have you dusted your bookshelves recently? I bet they really need it. - lris
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Holy crap. I bought a Roku and now we are watching YouTube on the TV. Whoa.
I thought YouTube was the one thing you *can't* watch on a Roku. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
the newest one, roku 3 (i think) has the feature - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm ashamed to say how much I love my Roku. And now my parents (MY PARENTS) are buying one too. - lris
I bought the cheapest one on Amazon (I think), and YouTube is working. I just can't believe any technology at all works with my grocery store television that my ex-bf got me for Christmas years ago. - laura x from iPhone
My auntie is in her 80s and likes to watch Korean dramas on her Roku. - Rodfather from Android
we have two older Rokus, but I bought a newer one that we never even used yet. Just installed and we're checking out Youtube right now! - Laura Norvig
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I forgot to cross-post to my main feed, but over in LSW I am muttering to myself in true crazy-cat lady librarian fashion if anybody is feeling like pointing and laughing ...
you're doing great! *\o/* - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Next up is NSRT stuff ... - Laura Norvig
Ouch. Yeah, all my CNCS stuff hit the 'to burn' pile when I got my notice. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
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Today I am throwing away all of my class materials from studying for my MLIS at SJSU. I am terrible at throwing things away, but have been storing them in my cube at work and we are moving.
Goodbye Introduction to Cataloging and Classification, eighth edition. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye course reader from Lib Sci 248, Cataloging, Summer 1999, Dr. Liu - Laura Norvig
Goodbye course material from Lib 210, Reference and Info Svcs, Spring 1998, Terry Crowley, the best teacher ever, RIP. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye materials from Lib 231, Spring 1998, Special Libraries, Becky Barber. - Laura Norvig
Might have to save my literature survey, "From Crisis to Opportunity: Access to Scholarly Articles in the Digital Age," written Dec 1, 1997. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye junk from Lib 244, Database Retrieval Systems, Robert Wagers. ... oh, I am so bad at this ... look at these oldie but goodie articles on Controlled Vocabulary vs. Free Text searching ... - Laura Norvig
Goodbye materials from Lib 220, Fall 1998, Libraries and the Law, taught by the fabulous Mary Minow. To keep: Homework assignment: Letter to Congressman Livingston detailing why the Child Protection Act of 1998 is unacceptable and unconstitutional. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye core course crap: Lib 200, Information and Society, Fall 1997 w/ Yael Schwartz; and Lib 204, Management w/ Dr. Fisher. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye print out of Odlyzko's July, 1994 article about the impending demise of traditional scholarly journals stating, "traditional scholarly journals will likely disappear within 10 to 20 years." ... well, we are close, my friend. - Laura Norvig
Oh, that is a classic. - Joe
I don't think I have ever not thought that Odlyzko was anything but a loon. - RepoRat
I was a good student! Also: hilarious point in time reference. I wrote an entire paper about The Benefits and Drawbacks of E-Mail since it was a "relatively new mode of communication." - Laura Norvig
Odd that Tragic loss was published in multiple journals, I don't see one from June. International Journal of Human-Computer Studies, Volume 42, Issue 1, January 1995, Pages 71–122 ( and and International Journal of Human-Computer Volume 42 Issue 1, Jan. 1995 ( and in January of 1995. - Joe
Classic in the ironic sense. I now think of him as a loon, but 20 years ago, I read what he wrote with some esteem. - Joe
Thanks for the linky. - Joe
I don't think email will ever take. - Joe
Goodbye stuff from User Interface Design with Tessier, Jan 1999 - The beginning of the end of any chance I would go into a traditional library career. Ugh, I do not want to throw away these notes. Let go, Laura, let go. Found: email correspondence with Tog of Found: URL of class project ... oh, interwebs, someone needs to clear out your cobwebs ... - Laura Norvig
Goodbye stuff from Creativity and Problem Solving with Wayne Reeves. - Laura Norvig
Scribbled on a piece of paper: "Here's a question: why do so few search engines give you a chance to choose how your data will be sorted and displayed?" - Laura Norvig
If you have to ask, we don;t trust you to sort it properly - Aaron the Librarian
Can I please get the comments in this thread sorted alphabetically by author instead of reverse chronologically? - Joe
Goodbye underlined and highlighted copy of Marchionini's "Information Seeking in Electronic Environments." *feels distinct pangs of anguish*. Ditto Meadow's "Text Information Retrieval Systems." I should just go back to school, shouldn't I? - Laura Norvig
Hello! (I mean goodbye) article by Daphne Koller, "Hierarchically classifying documents using very few words." Did I mention I am not very good at this throwing away thing? Goodbye all the great notes from Judy Tessier's Lib 202 Information Retrieval, Fall 1997. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye more books: Collection Development Policies. Buckland's Information and Information Systems. - Laura Norvig
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Google's Research Director Created This Hilarious Spoof Website | Business Insider India
Google's Research Director Created This Hilarious Spoof Website | Business Insider India
This is awesome. - Joe
Does he follow the Lego Academics? - Joe
Heh! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
That's cool, Joe! He doesn't do much Twitter but he must have seen that. - Laura Norvig
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This home buying thing is getting realer. On the table:
1) A small townhome, but it has a big garage and four rooms upstairs and our monthly payment would be sooo low. Also in a quiet cul-de-sac and has a nicely upgraded (though small) kitchen. Downside is it is hot and price might be driven up by bidding war: - Laura Norvig
2) A real house, that backs up to a peaceful greenbelt. Gorgeous big living room. Funky old small kitchen. Inspection report shows termite/dry rot that needs to be investigated further. I wasn't drawn to it at first, but when I went back a second time it started calling to me. We would be bidding below asking due to all of the problems, but don't really know what we're getting into. - Laura Norvig
Tough decision. Good luck! - Anne Bouey
3) A soulless, but newish, comfortable place. No real yard, but nothing to fix up. Only three bedrooms. Big garage. - Laura Norvig
The third one is surprisingly soulless inside, considering how cute it is outside. I like the townhouse (1). - bentley
Doing some research and apparently termites are almost a given in California. The main question is has there been any structural damage. - Laura Norvig
64 Vista Verde is prolly my fav for long term living for only one reason water restrictions are gonna get severe AND you'll have HOA demanding you maintain green. your green area is miniscule! and because it's so small it'll be economical, likely, to put in fake grass. but the kitchen is puny, tho there is ample space to renovate. and the upstairs laundry give me pause personally. I'd rather schlep then deal with water intrusions. but overall you're gonna live in Watsonville. yay!! I love it up there. - Lnorigb
Good luck. We wouldn't even look at the third one for two reasons: 1. HOA. 2. Two-story. (But I guess all of your choices are two-story.) If you want a third reason: 3. HOA. - Walt Crawford
I think I've been watching Property Brothers too much. The fact that the one we love (#2) needs tons of work is not phasing me anymore. - Laura Norvig
Lnorigb, the HOA fees at that place include them caring for the front lawn, not us. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
I hate the upstairs laundry idea too. I'm actually used to doing laundry in the garage. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
This is going to be so stressful ... - Laura Norvig from iPhone
it is stressful. but nice that HOA maintains the front lawn. - Lnorigb
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I don't think you're going to get the quality you're looking for in hangouts. What does twitch use? - Steve and 4 other people from Android
Steve, yeah it crashed after awhile. I don't think Wade cares that much about quality, but we really couldn't get it to work. - Laura Norvig
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
A butterfly just landed on my wrist while I was reading outside and stayed there kissing on me for almost two minutes before it flew away. So ticklish! And why did it take so long to figure out I'm not a flower? Cute though.
Don't some of them like salt? That might have been it :D - Jennifer Dittrich
Yeah, butterflies sometimes ingest salt from sweat or other sources. - John (bird whisperer)
It could also have been a vampire butterfly. I'm just sayin'. - Steve C Team Marina
Interesting. I'm sure there's plenty of salt on me. It was cool bc it landed right on my wrist and didn't move when I raised my arm to look at it close up. "Are you lost?'' I said. "Nomnomnomnom'' he said. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
A symbol of transformation. Consider it a love note from the universe that you're doing a great job. :-) - Corinne L
you are not a flower? pretty sure that's incorrect. - Laura Norvig
Because my landlord didn't paint the house, the housing authority will stop paying its portion of my rent & they're issuing me a voucher to find another place. We have 90 days. I still have to pay my portion of the rent. I can't afford to move or to hire help, my credit is awful, and hardly anyone will rent to someone on section 8 who has dogs.
Damn - Rodfather from Android
(((Starmama))) - Spidra Webster
I am so sorry you are in this situation due to the lack of care from your landlord. - Janet
It didn't even occur to me that he'd do just nothing. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
That sucks. :-( - Stephan from iPhone
I'm so sorry, Mandy. That sucks so hard. I'm pissed at your landlord. - Tamara J. B.
I'm sorry to hear this, Mandy. - Corinne L
Oh, wow. I can't believe he didn't even bother to do anything. I am so sorry :( - Jennifer Dittrich
What a jerk. - Yvonne Renee from FFHound!
Oh wow, what at an ass to put you in that situation. - Anika
Rogue landlords must have global conferences and discuss how to screw tenants, they do a pretty good job over here messing with us too, so sorry, hope you find a resolution to the problem and hopefully you will not have to move. - Halil
Oh Jesus. I'm so sorry you're having to go through yet another trial, Starmama. :( - Jenny H. from Android
How can we help? xxxx - Melly - #TeamMarina
Oh no! I don't understand why they're not penalizing HIM for his non-compliance?!?! :((( - Lisa L. Seifert from iPhone
I can't believe he refused to paint the house. :-( - vicster: hon. canadian
They are penalizing him. They pay around 40% of my rent, and they aren't paying it anymore because of the paint. But they can't have me living in a unit that isn't meeting HUD standards. So I can take my voucher anywhere that accepts section 8, as long as there's at least 2bdr and rent no more than $1365. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
I've gotten some offers of help, one from my girl who is a housing specialist at a non profit; she works with a different demographic than us but she's got an ear to those rails. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
& the recent purge & deep clean will make packing easier, if need be. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
what would happen if he finally got it together and painted within the 90 day period? - Laura Norvig
Then I can stay. But I cant sit around hoping he's gonna do it, either. He's avoiding me so I have no idea what his plans are. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
So sorry you are having to go through this :( - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
That's terrible. :-( - John (bird whisperer)
Shit. I hope your friend can help you find a reasonable solution. What a hassle. So sorry. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Steve and 4 other people
RT @chriseng: It will be a major fail if Twitter adopts Facebook's "filtered feed" approach.
If you want the truth, use RSS. - Brian Johns
OMG, no, don't let that happen. - Laura Norvig
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work situation is messing with my mind. update yesterday was they're waiting on some funding to come through that if it does in time then I won't be laid off (oh, oops, ha, jk). >:\ today I was told to meet with HR and move forward as if I will be laid off. oh, but there will likely be contract money for me to finish my current projects...
Sounds like the Bad Management Planning Mambo to me. In your shoes, I would probably go right on jobhunting, playing nice in the meantime so as not to lose the chance at the contract work if you turn out to need the money. - RepoRat
I just can't think clearly about what my options really are. and I never have taken very kindly to being dicked around. but yeah, I'm also not in a position just now to say "to hell with it." - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
also Bad Management Planning Mambo needs to be a muzak album title - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
I may be totally reading this incorrectly, but it sounds like they're trying to make it stable enough that you're able to finish the projects they need from you, but they're unwilling to commit to anything more long term. My biggest question would be whether these extra contract funds will be treated like your regular pay/benefits, or whether you'll get stuck with complicated taxes later. - Jennifer Dittrich
you're right, Jennifer. they need to get the current work completed for an end-of-year deliverable. the contract stuff would be a freelance consultant situation to finish it. my current salary and benefits status would end as of October 1. As an extra kicker, if the funding in question comes through AFTER October 1, I could be hired back on, but then starting over as new hire benefits wise regardless of my 8 year history there. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
That last part irks me, because it feels like a crappy way to just lower your standing, but reap the benefits of your talent and experience. - Jennifer Dittrich
agreed, that is boolsheet. they are looking for every possible way to screw you over. you can do better. - RepoRat
^ thank you both! that's how it feels to me too. just, ugh. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
biggest amount of bs ever and what everyone else said. if they come to you and say "oh sure we have the money so you can finish these projects" you should calmly hold up your middle fingers and say goodbye. you deserve better than that and they don't deserve to benefit from your wisdom and experience just so they can meet their goals, but screw you over - Sir Shuping is just sir
You may want to consult with an attorney specializing in employment law. Even if you can't change what they are doing, you can get advice on what's within your rights to request. - Corinne L
and this morning there's an email from the department head asking for my r`esume'... what the hell is going on over there? - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
They want your resume? Weird - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
when I was originally hired it was on a multimillion dollar federal grant dedicated to just our work team. I knew our team was isolated from the rest of the organization, and had been told that by coworkers, b/c we were kind of a self sustaining engine over in the corner, but I had no idea it was THIS much. I think she needs my resume b/c she's asking other project directors if they can cover part of my time, and they don't even know who I am or what I do at all. this whole situation is bizzaroland. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
ah, didn't realize you were on soft money. so, sometimes things happen unexpectedly with grants getting yanked, or a renewal not coming through -- is that the dealio here? - RepoRat
that's why I'm back and forth about it. I think it's both losing funding AND a serious failure of management. we knew that project was ending. who loses a million dollar funding stream and doesn't have a plan to cover the loss? it's asinine. a bunch of people were laid off, but I was repeatedly told I would be covered because they "needed my expertise in house." but I guess not so much now. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Guess they changed their minds and figured there was a way they could suck your expertise out of you while simultaneously laying you off. Not that I'm some picture of workplace politics success, but from what you're writing I'd move full steam ahead finding something better somewhere else. I don't like rewarding people or businesses for taking me for granted or treating me poorly. - Spidra Webster
Continue to take their money until you find something else. Then bounce. I doubt you'll burn any bridges by leaving, they all should know why. - Eric - Regulate
take the resume request as a positive sign. she probably wants to plead your case to join the SBIR team, no? Although sometimes they just put random people's resumes on grant submissions. - Laura Norvig
thanks y'all for letting me whine. you are so helping me keep it together over here, you don't even know. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
i went through something similar and it was confusing and frustrating. they totally had to talk out both sides of their mouths, but 5 years later i'm still here and back to full time. - kendrak
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Art by my late mother-in-law Lois Howard - Laura Norvig from iPhone
We've just been told that our campus website platform is moving to Drupal. I'm looking for some libraries who use this for their sites so we can see examples of what we can do. Any pros/cons/FYIs would also be appreciated.
There are some examples in the FleetThought portfolio -- -- since one of the Jarrells is a librarian, they have libraries as customers. :) - Jenica
Oh, there are some lovely sites linked from there. Thank you! - GretelSK
Digital-library platforms built on Drupal include Islandora and Mukurtu, so checking out their sites for installation lists might help you too. - RepoRat
Ours is on Drupal, though I wouldn't hold it up as a paragon of anything: also, LibGuides is built on Drupal, if I'm not mistaken. - Catherine Pellegrino from iPod examples. I don't think LibGuides is built on Drupal. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
million happy to help - Blake
Thank you very much! This gives us something to work with. - GretelSK
as far as pros/cons: Pro super flexible and great possibilities for organizing info/display with faceted approach IF an IA sets it up to leverage that. Cons: UI pretty tricky for non-techies unless it is customized. - Laura Norvig
One thing you'll want to get sorted out with your campus is whether you'll have to fit your library content into the templates/pages that are available to the whole campus, or whether you'll have the freedom to design templates/pages that work better for the specific functions that you'll need as a library. Our campus's default page designs were emphatically NOT going to work for us as... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
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Serious agenda today - going to be quite the battle against the prospect of staying horizontal
DONE unpack - Laura Norvig
DONE except folding last load ... laundry. lots of laundry - Laura Norvig
DONE but only estimated medical expenses. financial aid app for wade's school - Laura Norvig
DONE car wash - Laura Norvig
hand clean car seats - Laura Norvig
condition car seats - Laura Norvig
So far, horizontalness is winning - Laura Norvig from iPhone
I feel your pain. - LB's never Kippled from Android
I did nothing yesterday, but today I unpacked and did the laundry. Fixing to git to the car wash next. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Petty LaBelle
RT @p0psson: Battered pork belly with a mustard seed reduction sauce #cookingWithPopsson
RT @p0psson: Battered pork belly with a mustard seed reduction sauce #cookingWithPopsson
This is so perfect - I'm working my way through every season of Top Chef. Almost done with Season 3 right now. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Multiple people now (including my doctor) have told me I need to slow down a bit, relax. I have no idea how to do this. What do you do to relax?
It kind of depends. In the right circumstances, exercise is more relaxing than watching tv, but other times it's the opposite. Cooking, reading, going thrifting, and doing laundry are all things that i find relaxing, generally. Also, organizing stuff. - Kirsten from Android
Stitching! - Marina's Godmother :-)
Coloring. Sometimes cleaning/organizing. Going out with girlfriends. Reading. Music. - LB's never Kippled from Android
Sleeping. - Uli
Knitting! Having lunch on a picnic blanket under a tree for two hours while the sun bakes me. Meditative train rides to work with music. Meditative dish washing chores. :P Naps! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Dolce far niente - the very fact that you ask what people "do" to relax speaks volumes. Exercise and hobbies can be relaxing, but mastering the art of doing nothing may be what you need - Laura Norvig from iPhone
For myself, reading, watching TV, going for a walk in a park, playing video games - whatever lets me 'let go' of doing anything else while I'm doing it. - Jennifer Dittrich
One thing I do is to consciously relax as many muscles as I can. It's surprising how much tension I carry in my face without realizing until I relax. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
What Laura said. Just staring off at nothing is something I'm trying to reclaim. Whiling away time on nothing in particular. And I'm all with Uli on the sleep thing. - MoTO: #TeamMarina
Learn from a cat? They're pretty good at it. - RepoRat
^^this. Cats are Zen masters. - Corinne L
LB mentioned coloring. Several of my friends were coloring (yes, coloring books) for a while for relaxation. I bought some stained glass and art deco ones at the museum gift shop for a friend. - bentley
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The CEO of our org just used gratuitous quote marks in an email. Are you eff-ing kidding me?
complete with spaces around each quote mark - Laura Norvig
You guys " Rock " Can always depend on all of you to " Bring It " when needed. Thanks - Laura Norvig
Oh dear. I musta logged off before that went out. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
lol. Reply all: Are you being "facetious"? - YvonneM
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first and foremost I love making connections... introducing people for mutual benefit, finding the solution to a problem, linking a need with a resource, that's what really floats my boat. doing it for a cause or mission I care about is icing.
if I could land a gig with that aspect to it, in any field, I know I'd be happy at work most of the time. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
librarian tendencies, clearly. - Laura Norvig
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Two thumbs up. Because one is never enough.
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Love you, girl. Thanks. I haven't told anyone at work outside of Regina's team yet. They're waiting to hear on two more funding possibilities before they make it official. Just fyi. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Also I have major bookshelf envy from this awesome pic of you. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
My sister-in-law's. You would have even more envy if I posted the pic of the views from this Vancouver apartment. - Laura Norvig
She can keep the view. I'll take the bookshelves. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Those bookshelves are definitely rad. - RepoRat
Brian Johns
I was going to give Stephen Mack a pass on the whole "celebrity deaths come in threes" because I figured Robin Williams was big enough to count for three. But now with Lauren Bacall, I'm not so sure.
Don't mess with me, Johns. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Start a 48 hour clock and we'll see. - Brian Johns
Mack speaks the truth. Always in threes. - Mary Carmen
Does the nascar driver killed over the weekend count as #1? I don't want to hear of another celeb death... - Lola Bean (Penguin)
Ooh - good idea. If we don't have anything better to go with by Thursday night we'll go with him and call it a triad. - Brian Johns
I stand by my previous posts debunking the "celebrity deaths come in threes" superstition. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Does Philip Seymour Hoffman not count? - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
oh my god. - Laura Norvig
The fact you can't name the NASCAR killer means he doesn't count. GL to all celebs. - Louis Gray
According to my mom, Ed Nelson from Peyton Place & The Twilight Zone is #3. - Lola Bean (Penguin) from iPhone
If Thursday night (an arbitrary deadline) comes and goes and nobody else (arbitrarily) famous enough dies then I will consider that scientific proof that the "celebrities die in threes" thing is a myth. I may be willing to join the “Celebrity deaths come in 1.7s” camp based on this very scientific data. - Brian Johns
Followup and Conclusion: After an extensive period of data collection and analysis over the last 4 days, I have changed my mind and joined Stephen's 1.7 bandwagon. Basically, I picked Robin Williams as a test and I haven't seen two other similarly noteworthy celebrities die so I'm going to generalize that experience over the entire realm of possibility and call it a scientific fact. If... more... - Brian Johns
Good analysis, Sparky! - Stephen Mack
This is how science is done, except I should have gotten a grant. - Brian Johns
Jay Adams has passed away. They do come in threes. - NOT THE CRICKET from iPhone
Who? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
One of the Z-Boys/ Lords of Dogtown. One of the guys who was involved in evolving skateboarding to it's modern style. - NOT THE CRICKET from iPhone
Sarah G.
Just found out that this little old couple that were neighbors of my grandma and always came to holiday dinners worked on Manhattan Project!
I kind of wish 12 year old sglassme was more interested in the scientific experiences of the people sitting at the big table. - sglassme
At least the ones that spoke English.... - Sarah G. from iPhone
I did learn how to fold a origami crane at one holiday, so I have that going for me. - sglassme
And write our name using Egyptian hieroglyphics! - Sarah G.
My uncle was a GI in the Theoretical Division at Los Alamos then. He went back in 1950 (according to this article he wrote ) and stayed at Los Alamos his whole life. I always thought it was very glamorous but at the same time I was later somewhat horrified during my rabid anti-nuke years. - Laura Norvig
It seems the one Dr S did something with finding safe levels of radiation exposure, which either means he was trying to save U.S. workers or find out how much you needed to do to kill other people. I'm hoping it's the former. :) - Sarah G.
I didn't realize his wife practiced under her maiden name.. but I guess being a female physician in the 40s was a pretty feminist thing to do, so I shouldn't be surprised. - sglassme
I know, right? I also didn't realize what kind of doctors they were - PhDs or MD. aka Fake or Real Doctors according to Grandpa. :) - Sarah G.
ಠ_ಠ - sglassme
Don't get mad at me because you're not a real doctor. - Sarah G.
Dr is a *courtesy* title for physicians, historically. Doctor is an academic degree, after all. - Pete
Well damn. - Sarah G.
HA! - sglassme
(thanks Pete) - sglassme
As good Catholics you'll remember the Doctors of the Church ;) - Pete
Early uni doctors would have included those in Medicine, potentially. - Pete
I read a book about the Spanish flu a couple of years ago which also covered the evolution of physician's training in the US, and pretty much even through the 1920s it was common to have high school grads who interned with practitioners for their education. So, suck it Sarah :) - sglassme
Kevin Fox
Wow, FriendFeed was acquired by Facebook five years ago yesterday and it's still up and running.
As noted on twitter. - Joe
Well, he posted it on Friendfeed first, and even Ben Golub liked it. - NOT THE CRICKET
Sorry, didn't see that one till later. - Joe
just as a back channel, stay in touch via in case FF goes down. What's Paul B. up to these days? I really like Bret's Quip app. - Adriano
I'm still here! - Kevin Fox from iPhone
HI KEVIN! - Stephen Mack
Five years should not be allowed to go by so fast. Tell it to stop, please. - Laura Norvig
big stamina - thomas morton ☢
#upandrunning Thumbs Up :) - Maurizio
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I went on a Middle East peace tour in 1984 which included Syria and Jordan, and the secret basement office of a militant Palestinian faction. We were not able to visit Lebanon, though, as it was too dangerous at the time. #saturdayff
Wow. I think you were safer then compared to now. - Janet from FFHound!
I think it was 1983, actually. That makes more sense. We had hoped to go to Gaza also and weren't able to. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
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RT @karenyankovich: Only 41% of nonprofits report adopting inbound tactics for 2013
"inbound tactics"? - RepoRat
Inbound marketing - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at
here - Keith Teare
here too - Kevin Marks
Topic for today's GG: Sup App half-life now measured in weeks. - Tom Guarriello
OMG I'm available to attend a recording! - Matthew Voshell
...and go in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - Murray Macdonald
Here is where the new FB messenger App is headed... - Tony Stanislawski
Here. - Robert Scoble
im going to watch through the roku ustream private channel i wonder how far delayed ill be - Matthew Voshell
We are gonna talk about two-app strategy for sure. - Robert Scoble
That one above is for you Robert! - Tony Stanislawski
@Robert did you see that tweet i sent to most for the Frontline piece that recently aired? - Matthew Voshell
BTW My little experiment last week, I mentioned all of you in a tweet, only Keith responded. I know that I could have got Scobles attention on FB. Steve G and Kevin not so sure how I would - Tony Stanislawski
I saw it, but as keith had responded i thought I'd be redundant - Kevin Marks
The world is coming to an end. I might as well watch The Gillmor Gang live - Francine Hardaway
Excellent plan, Francine - Tom Guarriello
Got it Kevin - Tony Stanislawski
Tony, do you mean this one? - Rob Underwood
I was thinking of Robert S too when I watched the original - Rob Underwood
No I have not seen that...another thing to watch! - Tony Stanislawski
Matthew, nope. - Robert Scoble
What's up Steve! - Chris Hale
ppl are turnig off push notications (in some categories) - clive boulton
I will not install fb chat. Don't want it. Same with 4square. - Murray Macdonald
Wow. Robert jumped right in - Chris Hale
Per a story that relates to last weeks show, and what the gang is trying to understand; - Matthew Voshell
Path like 4sq has 2 app strategy - clive boulton
I agree -- the FourSquare/Swarm split feels different than the messenger/FB "split" - Rob Underwood
I love the new FourSquare app, and Messenger is quite useful. I dig that too. Both are very useful. And, the new Messenger features are super sweet! You guys should check it out. - Jason Nunnelley
Can we make the Dock disappear on Robert's screen? - Tom Guarriello
These apps will have to provide value to users. They seem like distractions more than value. I communicate with my friends through other channels (text, voice, email, beer) - Murray Macdonald
I always view myself as the quintessential user, and I will now never use Foursquare and give tips. I used to do it when checking in. - Francine Hardaway
I have too many other ways to find out where to eat - Francine Hardaway
Question, can you be friends in messenger and not on FB yet? - Tony Stanislawski
But I do like and use Messenger - Francine Hardaway
Tony yes - Francine Hardaway
Yelp is my go-to app for food. I don't want people to know where I am eating. - Murray Macdonald
Agree with Robert on separating of FB apps. I think this could be an attempt to improve reputation for individual components of FB - Chris Hale
@Tony, yes, depending on your privacy settings you can control who can message you; either public, friends of friends, firends, or ony me - Matthew Voshell
Max Schrems suite was stirred by a talk from a Facebook privacy lawyer. “The message was, ‘Europeans are cute with their privacy laws... - clive boulton
My sister (reasonably technical) just made the mistake of having a private conversation on a relative's public Facebook feed. I explained the 2-app split and she's on board now. ;-) - Ian McGee
Messenger and the FB strategy are not the same as 4Square and Swarm - Francine Hardaway
whatever happened to the big "skype" integration into facebook chat? seems like they've kinda forgotten about that? - Matthew Voshell
I think instant messaging in general is a ungodly steaming hot mess - Chris Hale
On iOS, the lock screen notifications arent written correctly, i get a single new notification per message... its awful, they need to allow it to do a "count" of messages from the same persons - Matthew Voshell
My wife told me she uninstalled Messenger because of the permission requirements, to which I responded "how are you going to talk to your daughter when she's in Japan?" When in Osaka, my kid only talked to us on Messenger, because it's mobile, desktop, etc. Warren Whitlock called me on the voice calling feature built into Messenger, before I even knew it was there. Cool as hell! - Jason Nunnelley
My parents and many of my 50+ year old friends are not on facebook. Neither are my kids. - Murray Macdonald
Matthew: we can argue about that. I really like the single notifications per message coming in. - Robert Scoble
Yeah, but I see the utility of FB Messenter immediately, but my perception of FOursquare and Swarm is silly - Francine Hardaway
Swarm is getting better and better! - Tony Stanislawski
I still can't figure out the Swarm "nearby plans" -- it would seem weird to just show up in person at someone's plan (e.g., dinner), even if they are friends. - Rob Underwood
I think what they did is underestimate the gamification of it, which everyone loved and they are bringing those back! - Tony Stanislawski
Robert was talking on his fb this week about everyone who is up in arms over the permission stuff. Its just people pontificating about privacy because they have nothing better to get inflamed about. In a contextual age the notion of privacy is a radically different thing than the traditional notion of what privacy is - Chris Hale
Foursquare made a lot of mistakes. - Francine Hardaway
Good work, Tina! - Tom Guarriello
@Robert re: FB messenger chat notification; if i get 10 messages now my entire screen is full and i cant see any of the other messages (unless i scroll) i think having a count like imessage nativly does its much better to scale - Matthew Voshell
LOL Kevin I know who to message now! - Tony Stanislawski
Matthew: I do wish you had a choice. I see value in how you want to use notifications too. - Robert Scoble
Did facebook ever try to buy four square? isnt this a feature they portray in "silicon valley" when hooloui reverse engineerings the same feature as pied piper; facebook just did that wither thier "check-ins" and foursquare is dead just like that - Matthew Voshell
It all comes down to value. Can they generate more value for their users, and in some way extract that value in a form that positively affects the balance sheet? If that answer is yes, do it. - Josh Bradshaw
By leaving a tip are you not really checking in, just not in the present! - Tony Stanislawski
Bingo Kevin! - Tony Stanislawski
Hey @Robert. I had an interesting thought. Maybe these companies are splitting there apps because of a User experience crisis on mobile. Just like a webpage with too much content on it, maybe they are trying to keep there apps focused and uncluttered so people don't feel overwhelmed by an apps complexity - Chris Hale
When I use it I use it in combo with Google and 4sq - Tony Stanislawski
Really easier to type "coffee shop near me" into Google - Francine Hardaway
Worth noting Yelp has/had check-in ... just no one used it that I can tell. - Rob Underwood
As an app developer, I can appreciate how hard it can be to organize all the functions of an app when an app tries to include the "kitchen sink" in there app - Chris Hale
Don't resist FB Messenger, folks. It's worth it. I use it to talk to my friends in London. - Francine Hardaway
oye,,, a few technical weirdnesses today. its always something :-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
yelp reviews are like amazon reviews, take them with a grain of salt; biz owners check thier yelp and want it to look good; there's been stories latly of owners bullying peopel to leave good reviews or chraging for bad ones - Matthew Voshell
I have had experiences like the one @Robert described. I think this is a drastically undersold feature of FB. It really has helped me meet up with friends in other towns - Chris Hale
Many Yelp reviews are years old (pre apps era) - clive boulton
FB Messenger is quite useful. especial for a small group chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Google Now all the time. Its contextual awareness is great. - Murray Macdonald
There is only so many Messaging Silo's to invest time in. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Listening to @Robert all I can think of now is Peter Brady and "Time to Change" - - Rob Underwood
Change is not hard it is fun! What would life be like without change! - Tony Stanislawski
group chat is key. twitter is dropping the ball there - Kevin Marks
Queue steve and his notification love fest - Matthew Voshell
WhatsApp is the most popular one that friends and family use for Group Chats - Moe Glitz from iPhone
To me, i think a lot of these chat silos will be broken down in IOS 8 once apps can talk to each other. - Chris Hale
How did Facebook Messenger take over what AIM used to own? Why did people switch? - Matthew Voshell
We are using Slack a ton across our development team at Relay now. - Rob Underwood
yes, Slack is excellent - Keith Adler
We love it. - Rob Underwood
Slack rocks. - Robert Scoble
In about two weeks we've moved 80% of our internal communication to Slack .. and it integrates with stuff like Github and JIRA, etc. - Rob Underwood
I have a plane going over sorry - Kevin Marks
yes it integrates with ALL the things - Kevin Marks
Who will acquire Slack. Apple, Facebook, Google or Microsoft - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Twitter SHOULD - Keith Adler
@Moe -- good question. Maybe LinkedIn? - Rob Underwood
I hope none of them - Kevin Marks
Apple or MSFT would bugger it up - Kevin Marks
good point - Keith Adler
Facebook is too off message - Kevin Marks
maybe google, but they'd have channel conflict with plus/hangouts - Kevin Marks
Yahoo is desperate enough. - Murray Macdonald
It's great for our team because it gave a separate notifications stream that would get everyone's attention - Keith Adler
I love learning about new tools from you guys. *runs off to check out Slack* - Laura Norvig
Rob: slack does git, ok, now i'll check out the app - clive boulton
Stewart would not sell to Yahoo again - Kevin Marks
hmm. slack sounds interesting - Chris Hale
Any App that solves problems will always be in the line of fire for the usual suspects - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Remember when Whisper was the buzz? They come, they go... - Murray Macdonald
The searchable database, shared group environment is what's great - Keith Adler
@kevin: any indie concept of app-to-app notifications (yeah on the phone)? - clive boulton
It has put our work messaging in it's own separate channel (important when all the employees are overloaded) - Keith Adler
i used to work for the company that managed the backend for whisper - Chris Hale
webmentions are the indie concept, but not very app-focused - Kevin Marks
Ugh. I only didn't remove Yo because I forgot about it - Francine Hardaway
webmentions - thx - clive boulton
Yo is too small to go to the effort of deleting if it doesn't bug us too much... - Ian McGee
There is easily a Top 20 of major Messaging Apps. It's hard to get into the Top 5 and stay there - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm starting to turn off notifications on some apps because I'm being driven nuts by notifications - Francine Hardaway
Yo was awesome for the World Cup...just got a Yo every time a goal was scored. - Tony Stanislawski
I turn of/deny notification on all apps except the social networking apps - Adnan
Yo shows why brogrammers are a stain on silicon valley - Matthew Voshell
what the bejesus is a brogrammer? - Chris Hale
Yo is brogrammers trying to be phatic and just shouting - Kevin Marks
brogrammer is programmer who acts like a frat boy - Kevin Marks
iOS 8 could be the American Bandstand of Messaging Apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The device IS the app! Long term, Apple will be the best and most reliable contextual API provider. The hardware is a vehicle for the software. - Richard Hendrix
I blame Aaron Sorkin - Kevin Marks
i'd liken them to Ogar from Revenger of the nerds... that knows javascript - Matthew Voshell
apple is not a great cloud api provider - Kevin Marks
I turn noisy app notifications off / also noisy folks off - clive boulton
@Kevin... lol Aaron had nothing to do with this! - Matthew Voshell
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH @Kevin - Chris Hale
he reified the dickish programmer - Kevin Marks
The API isn't in the cloud - it's on the device and just transmitted through the cloud if need be - Richard Hendrix
Kevin So you are saying Mark Zuckerburg is a dickish programmer? - Matthew Voshell
I was going to ask Robert if he still had Yo on the phone. - JayVig
I will install it if it guarantees Arsenal will win another trophy this year, Keith! - Tom Guarriello
to some extent - Kate Losse's Boy Kings describes it more clearly - Kevin Marks
Man City are the champions i believe, ahem - Matthew Voshell
but Sorkin created a dickish programmer archetype (possibly intending to be dismissive) but it became a hero role model - Kevin Marks
There should be an intercourse Messaging App. Yes Yes Yes! That would be huge Global Big Data - Moe Glitz from iPhone
hierarchy of noise: yogrammer > brogrammer > programmer - clive boulton
I was looking for this earlier but all the Slick fans... Hipchat is very similar.. a little nicer actaully.. - Matthew Voshell
that's like google's "pay per emotion" patent - Kevin Marks
Slack's integration wins - Kevin Marks
What's that patent, Kevin? - Tom Guarriello
@Kevin.. yea price might too; but idk here are hipchat integrations - Matthew Voshell
Thanks, Kevin. - Tom Guarriello
googs new user tracking bridges mobile apps and web - clive boulton
Once again folks the book is called "age of context" get it on amazon now - Matthew Voshell
So emotion sensing watches will start driving recommendations to restaurants where people are happy? - Murray Macdonald
The people who hate the change are most vocal - Tony Stanislawski
I did a focus group on the Nespresso machine - Tina Chase Gillmor
Vessyl an early (and ridiculous) example of something that's definitely going to become pervasive. - Tom Guarriello
makeup sex heartrate? - Murray Macdonald
Vessle is awesome cuase it tells you everything thats on the side of the can.. colbert did a nice job with it - Matthew Voshell
Murray: chocolate for Maryam. :-) - Robert Scoble
so all those home automation protocols that apple and google are working are going to be a big key to this contextual future. - Chris Hale
Nespresso machines are yummy -- but now sounding like "The Circle" - Rob Underwood
I like having a real espresso machine. - Kevin Marks
it's a balance of trade -- are people going to be willing to continue to give up privacy for the convenience and serendipity of discovery? - Rob Underwood
Kevin: sometimes I like a 3-star restaurant. Other times McDonalds. :-) - Robert Scoble
BLE sensors have standardized discovery. - Murray Macdonald
@Rob for music? Movies? Sure... for my home... ehhh :/ - Matthew Voshell
scary future... - Adnan
Yep! That's what I'm saying. Apple becomes the arbiter of the sensors, in effect turning the bundle of sensors into a contextual API that Apple provides. The device is just a part of the programming. - Richard Hendrix
Taxi Trails App in Stockholm tracks the travels of all their taxis via GPS to discover Stockholm Hot Spots - Moe Glitz from iPhone
BLE does but Proximity UUID's do not - Keith Teare
why not push a webmentions notification at an app for scalability of permissions - clive boulton
They are trying to stop tracking the UIDs of their devices, not the sensors. - Murray Macdonald
What apple is doing with beacons is criminal. It's like doing away with DNS so that your computer could only talk to hosts through applications that embed specific IP addresses. The web would have never been born. I put some real effort into a DNS for beacons and I'm now I'm glad I didn't spend more time on it. - Todd Hoff
And Apple is banning BLE to Proximity UUID discovery - Keith Teare
I already did - Francine Hardaway
How exactly are they banning that Keith? - Murray Macdonald
See the thing that scares me about apples approach is that all the data flows directly to apple. I think its important for some of these sensors and things that will talk to each other to be localized to the app in question not to platform itself - Chris Hale
Apple is very good about explaining how they never "touch" your data.... google kind of skirts around it - Matthew Voshell
Android BLE provides a better beacon API. I can detect and respond to beacons without needing to know about them in advance. Apple requires you to pre-register your beacons for the app to respond. - Murray Macdonald
You can set whatever Major and Minor values you want on most BLE beacons. - Murray Macdonald
Can you become a beacon yet on android Murray? - Todd Hoff
Context should not be app specific. Location context is environmental, not app specific. - Murray Macdonald
Murray - yes, all accurate - Keith Teare
Are you asking if an Android phone can transmit as a beacon? - Murray Macdonald
Murray it can not, yet. - Robert Scoble
Apple won't approve apps that try to discover beacons the app doesn't already know about - Keith Teare
Robert: Cannot what? Transmit as a beacon? - Murray Macdonald
Apple will make the browser ? - chris dowling
That's not true. A proper beacon browser would allow you to whitelist desired beacons. There's no reason you need to be spammed. That would just be a bad beacon browser. A good one would let you scan an environment and add the ones you like to your whitelist. - Murray Macdonald
Anybody should be able to make the browser. - Keith Teare
Hearing Apple scaling its Cassandra team ahead of something big - clive boulton
zeroconf, not zigbee - Kevin Marks
Here's a use case: I'm walking down a sidewalk and I want to get information on restaurants on my path. You want to get coupons, specials, menus etc from your local context. Using a general system I could get the id, look it up, apply filters, merge with social streams, figure out the interaction pattern, and present the UI to the user. This can't happen with an iphone. - Todd Hoff
So cute. There's a little Keith in the room - Tina Chase Gillmor
coupons meh - Kevin Marks
Sorry Kevin, yes, zeroconf - Keith Teare
A good beacon browser app would let you enable/disable types of beacons. Coupons, restaurants, etc... Users would turn on and off they things they are interested in. The browser wouldn't spam your notifications, it would present them when you asked, unless you had previously whitelisted them. - Murray Macdonald
saving money bothers you? - Todd Hoff
They don't have the majority of costco customers, just app purchasers. - Murray Macdonald
Murray: Android can not transmit as a beacon. - Robert Scoble
Maybe there will be a "discoverability" ON/OFF setting like in Bluetooth. - Alex de Soto
password heist? - Laura Norvig
It wasn't this stuff about beacons - Francine Hardaway
Robert: Agreed, but it will soon. Also I see little need as phones are already discoverable. Apple can act as an iBeacon, but what is the use? It could be useful in the future when finding friends, etc... but those apps aren't popular as most of that is done through GPS and the cloud, not BLE. - Murray Macdonald
Sprints attempted buyout of Tmobile finally got extinguished this week - Chris Hale
"Netflix subscriber revenue surpasses HBO." - Alex de Soto
And Sprint got a new CEO this week. That is also interesting new IMHO - Chris Hale
I've got to run to a 2:30 meeting. Thanks everyone! Great show. - Murray Macdonald
FCC tells phone carriers to tell users why throttling - Laura Norvig
literally dying I emant - Kevin Marks
I cannot watch World news on any channel. Regurgitation of what was on the internet 2 hours or 2 days ago! - Tony Stanislawski
HBO Vice is pretty interesting. - Alex de Soto
Oliver is a half-hour weekly Daily Show. Big success for HBO and loss for Comedy Central. - Tom Guarriello
Feeling Apple Watch focused more on personal health: sensors / notifications / analytics - clive boulton
Who is getting the new Apple iPhone? - Alex de Soto
presentate - Kevin Marks
many ppl want the larger iphone - clive boulton
What I do not get Robert is what is the key difference between these people who spend so much time worrying about this rather than using it. Your thread on FB would be an interesting dissertation..... - Tony Stanislawski
this is too small - Kevin Marks
*waves to Todd Hoff* - Laura Norvig
Special mention: Danny Sullivan's Twitter coverage of the hurricanes in Hawaii. - Alex de Soto
Good show! Time for some wine! Vivino show me the way! :) - Tony Stanislawski
When is your next show, Tina? - Laura Norvig
What's that football app again, Keith? - Tom Guarriello
Tony: we all talk about it because it's interesting and we all are gonna use it. - Robert Scoble
Now for some G3 - clive boulton
In case I don't see ya, Good afternoon, good evening and goodnight! - Chris Hale
I want the larger phone - Francine Hardaway
Nice one! - Asif Rahman
Good show. 'night all - Ian McGee from Android
thanks! - Richard Hendrix
Francine the larger phone spurs a smaller watch? - clive boulton
Ah, One it. - Tom Guarriello
Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble
Oh hey, I found the "chat room". Another great show, thanks :) - Brian Gaudenti
Laura Norvig
I have never owned a house #saturdayff
I think I really want to buy one - Laura Norvig
I am also petrified of the whole thing - Laura Norvig
That is all. - Laura Norvig
same here. - Valz 4 TEAMMARINA
Mixed blessings. Where we live it becomes a curse when you are elderly and on a fixed income. School taxes cause many elderly to lose their homes because they can no longer pay the tax. - Janet from FFHound!
Laura Norvig
First time I've seen this one. Love the spelling in the credits ... - Laura Norvig
Andrew C (✔)
Sites where the comments are worth reading:
friendfeed - Katy S
Friendfeed. AV Club. Crooked Timber. At least some sports blogs (Knickerblogger, Posting and Toasting, probably more). - Andrew C (✔)
AV Club is fantastic! A little insular and you have to know some of the inside jokes and shorthand, but really good comments overall. - Jed
DAWES - Andrew C (✔)
FriendFeed, YouTube (yes, I said it), Google+, pretty much anywhere there's an 'elite' of commenters drumming the pace of their communities' interactions based on content that makes people think instead of entertain them. - Zu from AOD
I've enjoyed several of the club-specific soccer blogs. - Jennifer Dittrich
Metafilter. /b/ - Akiva
Metafilter. AskMetafilter!!! - Meg VMeg
Parts of reddit, but not all of it. - ellbeecee
Metafilter. - bentley
Great Affectations, Ben Afflect's literary criticism blog. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
DonationCoder forum (just stay out of the basement...we keep our collection of wingnuts down there) - April Russo
But seriously, Ta-Nehisi Coates' column on - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
/r/askreddit and /r/truegaming On reddit can be interesting. - Rodfather from Android
WordPress developers' blogs. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Stack Overflow. - Akiva
Penthouse Forum - Steve C Team Marina
Whatever (that is, John Scalzi's blog, not dismissing the topic) - Walt Crawford
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Some of the Brits have never seen lighting bugs. They are stoked.
Until recently I didn't know that lightning buds weren't everywhere. We don't see them much in the city, but we all have seen them at some point. Where don't they live? And why? - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
We don't have them in SoCal. It was one of the things I missed when we moved from MO. - Anika
Fireflies, lightning bugs, whatever you want to call them - to me they represent summer. Miss them a lot living in CA. - Corinne L
I've never seen 'em. - Spidra Webster
There are fireflies in the western US, but I think the ones that light up as adults are much more prevalent in the east. - John (bird whisperer)
[oops, did not read John's comment!] I have never seen any in california or in Colorado - thinking they don't go west of the Rockies? Such a magical vibe - I love them. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Growing up with them I tend to forget not all see them. Our Japanese guests were so excited at their first sighting. - Janet
In 1957, a Dallas housewife had her recipe for cake made with German's Baking Chocolate published in a local paper. It became wildly popular, and soon people all over the USA were making and enjoying her German's chocolate cake.
Language being what it is, we all know it now as German chocolate cake, and I bet a bunch of y'all thought it came from Germany, huh? - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Well, that explains why my grandmother used to grumble about it not being really German. - Jennifer Dittrich
That lady is the reason my childhood sucked. My mother loved that cake so much that she'd ordered it for everyone's birthday. I hate coconut, walnuts/pecans and chocolate cake. - Anika
Oh, yuck. - Jennifer Dittrich
My family went through a phase when we'd frequently purchase the frozen Pepperidge Farm German Chocolate Cake, and I remember having at least one birthday cake that was GCC. I think it's the reason why I'm not a fan of coconut these days (unless it's moist, chewy macaroons). - Corinne L
Pretty much my favorite cake and yeah, it all started for me with the Pepperidge Farm version. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Wonder how many people were initiated into GCC by Pepperidge Farm? :-) - Corinne L
I dunno, but I'm one of em! Moms didn't make cakes but she sure bought a lot of the Pepperidge Farms ones. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
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