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Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.30.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Here - Keith Teare
We're waiting for the famous call. - Robert Scoble
keith can you0 call in on Newsgangone - Tina Chase Gillmor
keith trying to contact you via skype - Tina Chase Gillmor
excellent. Horses in the gate. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi - Ian Waring from iPhone
weird ringing noise from someone - Kevin Marks
No - tasks are getting smaller bits - Ian Waring from iPhone
Don't need a larger screen - Ian Waring from iPhone
hello folks!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
London checking in - Scott Jones
Scoble can't wait to try Outlook for iOS - Tom Guarriello
hello London! - Tina Chase Gillmor
50 miles west of London checked in! - Ian Waring from iPhone
Any truth to this rumor of security issues with Outlook for iOS and Android? http://www.tomshardware.com/news... - Alex de Soto
Thanks Tina x Have to say...and cant believe I am saying this...Windows 10 is actually pretty bloomin good - Scott Jones
Labels still seem to be the big email stumbling block - Tom Guarriello
Google has been lazy for years. No focus. Look at Google Search - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Exchange calendar also links up with Microsoft Lync and shows your status on Lync if you're in a meeting. - Alex de Soto
studio cat is raising a fuss - Tina Chase Gillmor
IT'S OUTLOOK!!! HOW INNOVATIVE CAN IT BE?? (Sorry!) - Tom Guarriello
Moving forward since Ballmer left - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Dos was a buy in - Ian Waring from iPhone
Was genuinely going to ditch microsoft, completely. Have set up windows 10 and suddenly I'm like...erm...ok..they have one last chance. Will say email wise that inbox by google is pretty decent. - Scott Jones
Riveting, guys! - Tom Guarriello
The Mac Outlook client is still a dog. Does the iOS App support non-Exchange POP/IMAP? - J.C. Bouvier
iterative progress - Tina Chase Gillmor
I give Microsoft a last chance every two years! - John Taschek
hahahha - Scott Jones
email "bucket of crap" - Tina Chase Gillmor
I have to use Exchange and the iOS app works very well and very fast. Notifications are good because the app uses something called "Focused" which somehow figures out what's important, mostly based on your contacts. - Alex de Soto
The Outlook IOS and Android Preview work with pop, exchange, gmail - John Taschek
wait, did Robert just compare himself to Bill Gates? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tina, we did hear that... - Tom Guarriello
Handle? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Consumers ditching email only Enterprise still using it - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Tx John. - J.C. Bouvier
thanks Tom - Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't think the UI is better than Google's own -- it's a few functions that make the difference (which are part of user experience). But it's just fascinating -- it's like email is getting new life - John Taschek
He's heating up, People - Tina Chase Gillmor
*Ding* - J.C. Bouvier
iOS Outlook has "Focused," emails from your contacts, and "Other" which is everything else. "Quick Filter" shows: Unread, Flagged and Files (with attachments). - Alex de Soto
did my tech crunch link go out. Usually more folks in this chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
Aren't Surfaces making a splash? Their NFL partnership seems to be going very well - Tom Guarriello
Previous versions of their own products has traditionally been their biggest competitors - Ian Waring from iPhone
+100 Keith, Nadela said as much in his keynote comments; platform agnostic, experience centric...if he's serious, they've certainly got the runway... - J.C. Bouvier
Tom: only relative to past failure. Still too small a business, and if software is the futur, hardware is a distraction - Keith Teare
No doubt, Keith. Just looks like a bit of hardware success - Tom Guarriello
Think Microsoft may have to acquire to find new business revenues - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Nothing like open sores coders - Frank Paynter
How about Amazon throwing Wall St a profit bone and getting a huge bump today? - Tom Guarriello
Hey, Windows Phone will support FLAC in Windows 10...don't know that it's a game changer...but there's an influential audience looking for the feature...they're doing things that guys like us are paying attention to...does it translate to cohesive ecosystem is the qeustion. - J.C. Bouvier
J.C. there aren't enough people who care about FLAC to matter. NOT A SINGLE ENTREPRENEUR at Techstars in San Antonio was carrying a Windows Phone. It's totally dead and not coming back. - Robert Scoble
39% gross margins...crazy talk. - J.C. Bouvier
Not everyone has to do 18 billion a quarter like Apple ... 5 or 10 with a software business are nice, too. - Johannes Siemers
Nice. John is very chatty today. I like that. fiesty - Tina Chase Gillmor
FLAC is nothing special. apple lossless is equivalent; uncompressed is only twice as big - Kevin Marks
Can Apple ramp to 100m iPhones a quarter...Q4 next year? - J.C. Bouvier
Apple has an integrated hyperfocus throughout design to sales and support. Everyone else is marginalized. - Arnie Klaus
Apple need the Watch to succeed, cause right now it's all about the iPhone - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Apple has figured out how to ace the phone upgrade cycle. - Alex de Soto
The iPod is dying and the iPad sales are stalling - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Yah, getting Chinese consumers to pay luxury prices against native vendors at 8 units to 1 is a real thing... - J.C. Bouvier
The China market was huge for Apple -- and it came at a time when the flagship Android vendors didn't come up with enough design (i.e., Samsung) - John Taschek
If there is a full Apple TV in stealth mode, now is the time to push it forward - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Xaomi is doing OK - Kevin Marks
1.4 Billion Android Smartphones shipped? - John Taschek
Scoble switched back - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Kevin, I'm w/you, I'm not a real FLAC guy, just saying... - J.C. Bouvier
And China market is not proving as price sensitive as was commonly assumed. As China's economic growth continues, Apple's 40 new stores there will be hugely productive. - Tom Guarriello
An iPhone 6+ is about 1/2 the size of an iPad Mini. - Ian Waring from iPhone
utterly disagree with Scoble. Apple is US ONLY. - Scott Jones
Speaking as a data point... I'm swapping back, my android for an iPhone ASAP. - Frank Paynter
Nice John, Sierra Nevada? ;) - J.C. Bouvier
Scott absolutely not true. Same numbers exist EVERYWHERE I meet with entrepreneurs. - Robert Scoble
I find tasks are taking less and less screen real estate - Ian Waring from iPhone
According to App Annie, there are more Android app downloads though -- Google Play generated nearly 60 percent more worldwide app downloads in 2014. - Nir Ben Yona
Samsung is the new Blackberry. - J.C. Bouvier
NBC live steaming Super Bowl to all without signing in with cable provider info. - christina sponselli
Apple also succeeded in creating products that generate recurring revenues. First with the iPod (music) and now with the phone (apps) and iPad (apps and media). - Alex de Soto
Samsung still have a chance as their new Galaxy looks a carbon copy of the iPhone - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Agreed... Samsung kinda blew it. The phone is well designed, but the data flows are out of control. Google eats up all of my data every month. - Frank Paynter
Its also about how much powerful and intelligence the skunkworks that a comapny has. - Arnie Klaus
Howdy geek friends - Laura Norvig
plane - Kevin Marks
Just got the Meizu MX4 Pro -- The most powerful smartphone on earth right now. - Nir Ben Yona
I really need to order more Gillmor Gang mugs. - Tina Chase Gillmor
gmail, G+ photos and like that - Frank Paynter
ageed keith - Arnie Klaus
anyone interested in GG coffee mugs? - Tina Chase Gillmor
or something else? - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd order one, Tina - Tom Guarriello
@tina sure! I love coffee and I love GG - Laura Norvig
set your photo upload to wifi only frank - Kevin Marks
I've heard data consumption issues with iPhones too. The more apps you have.... - Alex de Soto
good enough for me. Ill plan for some nice ones - Tina Chase Gillmor
look at your data profile, frank, which apps are using it - Kevin Marks
Thanks kevin, sounds like a good idea - Frank Paynter
Facebook Videos loading non stop - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Unlimited here for less than $20 per month inc HSPA+ and LTE - and 10GB/month when in many places abroad - Ian Waring from iPhone
Need that app on all platforms that will help reduce consumption - Arnie Klaus
Inc the USA - Ian Waring from iPhone
what about Amazon getting into enterprise email? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Software is eating my Data - Moe Glitz from iPhone
i could be wrong, but I feel that Google Maps uses more data on my iPhone than other navigation apps like Navigon or even Apple Maps. - Alex de Soto
normals don't know how to change all these settings, come on - Laura Norvig
Cats are well designed accessories. - Arnie Klaus
yeah, that's when we got married, early 90s. oh course Steve doesn't remember - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin Bloefield - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Bricked my iPad mini too - Ian Waring from iPhone
The chat is limited to 20 people. - Nir Ben Yona
You DM and then can add additional folks, Kevin. - christina sponselli
FB messenger - Tina Chase Gillmor
it wouldn't be like the FF experience if it doesn't archive and display well - Laura Norvig
Google Maps - has layers that can be turned on or off. I think Waze also used more data. It's doing more? - John Taschek
Twitter lacks internal vision. Users made that company - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Why did so many folks come to Dick Costelo's defense this week? Was he under fire? - J.C. Bouvier
93 people on Friendfeed - Tom Guarriello
I'm lurking. - Robert Scoble
I'm lurking! - Roger Shepherd
Use slack at work. Very good. - Ian Waring from iPhone
At least half is what they're saying... - J.C. Bouvier
Hello, I was lurking! - Tony Stanislawski
Now 95 - Tom Guarriello
I'm lurking. - Alex de Soto
CHEESE - Scott Jones
Lurking :) - Simon Benvenutto
I'm lurking - Robin Jewsbury
I'm lurking! - Nir Ben Yona
i'm lurking ;) - Jan Winter
lurking - Sam Harrelson
Making Coffee - Darius Dunlap
Very interesting lurkers - Tina Chase Gillmor
Okay... now, who is twerking? - Frank Paynter
Join in peeps - Tina Chase Gillmor
You hit 20 already. - Alex de Soto
#lurking - me too - John Taschek
we'dlove to have some of you visit in the chat for G3. Lonley there so far, right Darius? - Tina Chase Gillmor
The Lurking Gang - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Isn't the core issue with DM on Twitter Just how many people mistake a 'private' channel with the 'public' version? It's been the undoing of plenty... - Monty Hamilton
that was more an sms problem monty - Kevin Marks
Excellent set up, Keith! - Tom Guarriello
less likely with the web or the app clients - Kevin Marks
Set up an IRC channel if you want to replace FriendFeed - Jeff
Ding! The secret "woid": notifications. Tina: You should have a duck come down when that word is first mentioned. - Alex de Soto
@Kevin - The proximity of two messaging channels in the UI is just confusing - nobody uses Twitter via SMS/Text here in Australia - it's always been in the app... FB is fundamentally different UI - Monty Hamilton
drinking game. used to be "track" now it's "notifications" - Laura Norvig
a notification sound effect - Kevin Marks
you need an app to have a notiication - Robin Jewsbury
we don't have radar detectors anymore - Tina Chase Gillmor
FB split the app deliberately - Kevin Marks
need cop finders - Tina Chase Gillmor
in my view to make notifications clearer - Kevin Marks
have to return to the stand-alone radar detector - Frank Paynter
Notification enable efficient response only. - Jeff
i still flash my lights! - Tony Stanislawski
why would they take that out. it's good for people to slow down. and it's not as if cop cars are incognito ... - Laura Norvig
me tooTony - Tina Chase Gillmor
Response + Intelligence is the future of notifications; otherwise it is nothing but a pager on steroids - John Taschek
Yah, what's the API from FriendFeed into SFDC? - J.C. Bouvier
Notification aware Siri... - J.C. Bouvier
I'm bummed I missed G3 this week. Had a con. call while you were recording, Tina. - Darius Dunlap
Of course the guys aren't going to talk about the Newsweek article/cover - Tina Chase Gillmor
Notifications don't support me when I want to post - Jeff
Jack Dorsey: Twitter is the closest thing we have to a global consciousness. And I believe the world needs that right now. - clive boulton
you guys should really make notes ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter needs to find a revenue model - Moe Glitz from iPhone
2 percent are creators; 98 percent are librarians - Jeff. Notifications is for the librarians - John Taschek
Google needs Twitter for conscious real-time search. - clive boulton
shesgeeky is on today isn't it - Kevin Marks
Fair comment John. maybe I'm part of the 2% - Jeff
what about just listen - Tina Chase Gillmor
or let women speech in meetings? - Tina Chase Gillmor
or invite them onto boards? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tacky cover. But that's what the Media think of women - Moe Glitz from iPhone
or..... - Tina Chase Gillmor
Me I thought the cover fit the article - Tina Chase Gillmor
or have them on Gillmor Gang - Robin Jewsbury
but many people totally disagree with me - Tina Chase Gillmor
Amelia's post was excellent, obvious the real MVC founder. - clive boulton
There is pattern matching that is meaningful and pattern matching that is bullshit. The former is much more rare than the latter. - Darius Dunlap
link Clive? - Tina Chase Gillmor
men have children too - Kevin Marks
But when it's your own pattern matching, it's very difficult to recognize one from the other - Darius Dunlap
I just posted it tina - Kevin Marks
you'e both right - Tina Chase Gillmor
Has anybody else watched the brilliant woman in a meeting get her idea stolen, co-opted, and adopted by the alpha male who is happy to take credit for the stolen idea? - Frank Paynter
Yep, Tine. But personal confidence is not the whole story. - Darius Dunlap
few women learn to "brag", "strut their stuff", etc - Tina Chase Gillmor
it's not about favors - Tina Chase Gillmor
heard Maxine Williams - Facebook diversity person - on a podcast just the other day - can't remember which podcast - a lot about need to be way more deliberate in recruiting and hiring for diversity - Laura Norvig
yes laura, that's what I was saying - Kevin Marks
good question steve - Tina Chase Gillmor
Frank: Skill always been getting the alpha male (or female) to adopt and take credit for your idea. - clive boulton
a "male" view - Tina Chase Gillmor
absolutely - Jeff
I've said before, if you are having trouble deciding between a "guy like me" and another person, woman, black man, whatever... Pick the latter, because they had to be better to get where they are. - Darius Dunlap
Friendfeed and the live broadcast are so out of sync for me. There's a delay with the video on Ustream or with Friendfeed. A seven second broadcast delay? Maybe that's a good thing. - Alex de Soto
the supply of smart white young male engineers is so abundant ... - Laura Norvig
always, always, always have a diverse work force. It's just good business. - Jeff
can't see it scoble - Kevin Marks
Men who think that way are less than men. And only Men can change that. - Darius Dunlap
How many women are on the boards of any major company, never mind Tech - Moe Glitz from iPhone
"Us" are humans - Tina Chase Gillmor
Clive: sometimes getting the idea out there is more important than the credit, but getting credit for the idea increases a person's capital... women get ripped off over and over in my experience - Frank Paynter
Good point Tina. - Simon Benvenutto
VC look for "strong" founders. But what does a "strong" founder look like? - Tina Chase Gillmor
This is an excellent study from Harvard. Not tech-related, but very apropos: http://www.law.harvard.edu/student... - Alex de Soto
like them when they were younger, in general - Kevin Marks
because someone believed in her - Tina Chase Gillmor
Frank: good point. - clive boulton
There's zero excuse for the Valley to white/asian male dominated - Jeff
Yep, Tina. They may be better served by looking for thoughtful and intelligent founders. - Darius Dunlap
YMCA Combinator - Kevin Marks
Ha! Excellent, Kevin - Darius Dunlap
It wasn't for women's benefit. It was for the war effort - Tina Chase Gillmor
More child care. Better eduction. More paid leave - Tina Chase Gillmor
The problem is boys..... http://www.npr.org/blogs... ..... they kill women's confidence. - Roger Shepherd
Yep, Roger. - Darius Dunlap
Most companies hire the token 'Asian, Latin, African, Woman' to feel as if they are part of the modern world. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Brad Fitzpatrick - Kevin Marks
Although, I'll point out that women to it to one another, too. - Darius Dunlap
Im happy to hear the guys tackle theses issue. Sometime on G3 it feels like we're saying the same thing over and over but often preaching to the choir - Tina Chase Gillmor
women were and are bloggers - Blogher showed that - Kevin Marks
not a deeper problem - Tina Chase Gillmor
similar problem - Kevin Marks
yes Kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
same problem ... intersectionality - Frank Paynter
Yep. Too few. I know several, but embarrassed to say it's ONLY several. - Darius Dunlap
Very interesting article on Palo Alto: http://techcrunch.com/2015... - Alex de Soto
that was good, Alex - Kevin Marks
"...and if they don't do that, what's the point?" — indeed! - Darius Dunlap
twitter 2006 - Frank Paynter
Thank you, Darius - John Taschek
name the show, folks!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Guys and Gals - Keith Teare
Boys, not Men. - Darius Dunlap
more... - Tina Chase Gillmor
this article was telling http://t.co/zFMR5HyKOe - Kevin Marks
Tools for tools - Frank Paynter
notifiations is power? - Tina Chase Gillmor
to deliver their own boise? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina -- How about "Turn your Mic on, Tina" - John Taschek
Taschek++ - Darius Dunlap
I have no mic, John. ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
"media is complicit w/tech sexism by reducing all work by women to being 'about sexism' instead of all the things we do & make." https://twitter.com/katelos... - Kevin Marks
About Standpoint Theory which relates to the article Kevin just shared above (before Kate's tweet... http://www.wikiwand.com/en... - Frank Paynter
I went into dinner prep mode, which is listen only, but wanted to give a big +10 to this gender conversation - Tom Guarriello
Can a woman bring a baby to a VC meeting without being labeled and judged by it? no way - Tina Chase Gillmor
XML - shudder - Kevin Marks
Kevin Marks++ - Darius Dunlap
nice Tom. I agree - Tina Chase Gillmor
need more men talking about it - Tina Chase Gillmor
Gotta run guys - it's 9:20am here in Melb, thanks for a fun Sat morning (Fri afternoon). Catch you all soon, Mont - Monty Hamilton
bye Monty - Tina Chase Gillmor
I recall Adam said he would choose Json over XML if he did it all over again - Michael Roberts
more show titles? - Tina Chase Gillmor
XML was an attempted formalization of HTML - Kevin Marks
Notifications use json - Robin Jewsbury
it failed, HTML keeps going - Kevin Marks
Mmm, surely that was XHTML? - Simon Benvenutto
JSON? - clive boulton
HTML predated XML - Kevin Marks
it was based on SGML - Kevin Marks
++Simon - Frank Paynter
We used XML in 1998, worked with Tim Bray - for us it was the opportunity to connect data without having to centralize - beginnings of the open data movement - Michael Roberts
How about the death of TUAW? - Frank Paynter
Have a good weekend! Seattle or New England? - Alex de Soto
no sportsball predictions? - Laura Norvig
jinx Alex! - Laura Norvig
He's a real Notification Man - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Notifications central because they are micro interface messages (not verbose XML) - clive boulton
Apps are very much me going into the toolbox to find the tool for the job at a given point in time. Notifications have the opportunity to bring that tool to me, when its relevant, depending on whats happening in the world around me. Its contextual. - Simon Benvenutto
How many can they make in the first six months? And how many have they got in inventory? - Frank Paynter
twitter are fairly bulky - Kevin Marks
We need a GG Apple Watch sales pool! - Tom Guarriello
+1 kevin. - clive boulton
1.2 million Apple Watches the first weekend. - Alex de Soto
the amazing thing about the watch is the number of $1000 versions sold - Robin Jewsbury
XML was a big innovation at the time - what's seems to win out is simple - rss was simple - twitter is powerful but simple to use - notifications to me connect things together and are simple - so yes I think they will do well and there is still lots of innovation to be had - Michael Roberts
2 million for weekend. 18 million of the first quarter. - Darius Dunlap
i have to drop at 2:35 - Keith Teare
With a high ASP - $500+ - Darius Dunlap
Scoble: 20, Keith:15, Taschek:?, Kevin :20 - Tina Chase Gillmor
AI may wrap around notifications to build interfaces for enterprise (peel the onion) - clive boulton
I had said 50 million in a previous Gillmor Gang -- but there was no timeframe - John Taschek
cat does NOT understand that she can't get out of the studio til the show is over - Tina Chase Gillmor
I think it's going to be 12. 15 doesn't sound right. Apple believes in even numbers - John Taschek
xml vs json is like sql vs nosql - Daniel W. Crompton
the difference between markup and interop :) - Simon Benvenutto
old vs new - Robin Jewsbury
original purpose of XML was to separate data from formatting and repurpose the data in cool ways. A librarian's dream but just wasn't used right, IMO - Laura Norvig
why are we starting a fight at the END of the show. Save it for the beginning of the NEXt show - Tina Chase Gillmor
SOAP killed everything - Robin Jewsbury
+1 Laura - Michael Roberts
ha ha, you should edit into next weeks intro Tina. - Simon Benvenutto
Let's have a fight about something interesting - not XML v. HTML - Roger Shepherd
without xml there would be no rss - Frank Paynter
Apple Watch: 25 million the first month; 40 million the first quarter. - Alex de Soto
I'm happy to do this next time and explain the indieweb approach - Kevin Marks
twitter didn't need RSS - Kevin Marks
Tina++ - Darius Dunlap
For the Hoodie - Darius Dunlap
html worked because it was simple - it started really simple then got more complex over time - xml - tried to separate the presentation from the content - Michael Roberts
Thanks everybody! - Daniel W. Crompton
It takes two to have a fight..... - Roger Shepherd
Someone's wrong on the Gillmor Gang - Darius Dunlap
<p>Thanks for the show Gang!</p> - Simon Benvenutto
You guys are having an inside out vs outside in perspective argument - Jeff
Great show - Roger Shepherd
Yes, Great Show - Darius Dunlap
Kevin is still fighting. ;-) - Darius Dunlap
Have great weekends! - John Taschek
And you as well enjoyable show - Jeff
Great show. Have a great weekend. - Jaoued Ahmed
why not json- thanks Kevin - clive boulton
and - http://fortune.com/2013... - What has been your biggest failure? Funnily enough, I’m going to say XML. Yes, it is a standard, but the vision of a simple easy text format for sharing data between applications across the web which is what I had in mind was corrupted by a disastrously over-complex schema language and... more... - Michael Roberts
great show, thanks everyone! was the most extreme sort of (live) lurker today, burning up my data plan watching on a train on my "tiny" 5S so couldn't be here in #FF as didn't have the foresight to bring another of my iDevices - Jerome Hughes from iPhone
Great reference, Michael! XML can be used in non-web applications. It's not dead, just pining ... - Laura Norvig
(get it? remember Pine email ... oh, never mind) - Laura Norvig
I wrote one of my final papers for my MLIS about XML in the year 2000. I never really learned it all that well, just wrote about the conceptual promise and possible applications! - Laura Norvig
@Jerome -- yes GG requires 2 devices. Maybe Steve's new GG app can combine view and interaction (attention collections that span mobile to desktop so needed) - clive boulton
Laura: Yes Pine email - the good ol days when email was simple, and mostly spam free. Indeed XML is not dead - I helped to create a standard that uses it and its very much still in use. - Michael Roberts
Here is the feed for the audio version we talked about http://feeds.feedburner.com/Gillmor... - Manuel Diaz
laura x
I'm thinking of starting a podcast. Talk me into/out of this?
I will try and talk you into keeping well under an hour per episode. Not sure why an hour seems to be the usual standard length of a podcast, but there's very little I want to listen to for a full hour. - Steele Lawman
Word. If I did it, it would be interviews with my friends about their obsessions. - laura x
What will be the subject of the podcast? - Jenny H. from Android
I would love a 15-30 minute podcast of yours ... whatever it was. - Marianne
where do I subscribe? - MoTO: #TeamMarina
Plan, plan and plan. Pick a time and make that your regular podcast recording time. Leave enough room either side of it for set up, technical difficulties and running late. Make notes. - Johnny
Now I can't remember why I thought this would be a good idea.... - laura x
Do eet. If nothing else, it's fun for the first few episodes. Then it becomes work. - Eric - ill subliminal
that sounds interesting. i love obsessions. - kendrak
I remember you having a lovely voice. Go for it. - RepoRat
i'd subscribe to your podcast, laura x. i'm sure it'd be good. - Brent Schaus
Stephen Mack
Kids always get passes / When they wear new glasses
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(Passing grades in class because now he can read the board, that is. Apologies to Dorothy Parker.) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Sarah G.
I'm not super comfortable admitting my mental illness publicly, which is stupid and the point of today. End the stigma! #BellLetsTaIk
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
I ordered new clothes. Spent too much money probably, but I think some retail therapy was in order. Today my hair gets the chop. Then tomorrow it's back to the scene of the crime.
also, I'd like points on the board for not binge drinking myself into a prolonged blackout or scoring any illegal substances to induce semi-conscious stupor. I realize that's a low bar, but time was when that's what I woulda done. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
*shakes pompoms* - Kirsten
Good for you for not self medicating. I understand the desire all too well, and how hard it can be to NOT do it. *big hug* - Corinne L
proud of you, doll. - MoTO: #TeamMarina
I admire your fortitude. You toss this event to the depths of the ocean and tie it to a cement block. - Janet
Yes! This shit swims with the fishes. Thank you Janet. ;) And C and B and all my ffeeders. You sustain me. No lie. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Stephen Mack
Sleater-Kinney: "A New Wave" -- Live, Late Night with David Letterman, 2015-Jan-15 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Sleater-Kinney: "A New Wave" -- Live, Late Night with David Letterman, 2015-Jan-15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQt4gtBVS04
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Holy crap, what happens at 2:19 is pure amazing. - Stephen Mack
(Also, this is currently my favorite song from the new album. Can't believe Spin put it at #88 and dissed it as undistinguished in http://www.spin.com/article... ) - Stephen Mack
Stuck in my head all day today. Not complaining. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Victor Ganata
Boyle Heights community leader apologizes over “gentrification fence” photo - The Eastsider http://www.theeastsiderla.com/2015...
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Me and my friends have taken to calling this kind of fencing "hipster fencing" :D - Victor Ganata
Todd Hoff
You first - Wormhole to another galaxy may exist in Milky Way - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
You first - Wormhole to another galaxy may exist in Milky Way - Telegraph
"A space-time tunnel could exist in the middle of the Milky Way and we could travel through it, say scientists" - Todd Hoff from Bookmarklet
A planet made of chocolate could exist and we could eat it, too. - Steele Lawman
but it's not connected to other galaxies - miki
Watch out, I hear most of those chocolate planets are really made of laxatives. Tricky aliens. - Todd Hoff
I'll alert Galactus. - Steele Lawman
Amit Patel
Where would you post stats about how most people aren't on Google+? On Ello of course. https://ello.co/dredmor...
An excellent find, Amit. Golden. - Micah from FFHound!
To be fair, posting it on G+ would have significantly skewed the G+ numbers upwards. - Andrew C (✔)
Maybe that's why I'm (mildly) fond of G+ and its OA community: Like Friendfeed, it's small enough to not suffer from the Facebook/Twitter overload problem. As for Ello...what? - Walt Crawford
Where would you post about Ello saying most people aren't on Google+? FriendFeed of course. - Louis Gray
Of course. - Amit Patel
Stephen Mack
eBay to lay off 2,400, could split into three parts [San Jose Mercury News] - http://www.mercurynews.com/busines...
eBay to lay off 2,400, could split into three parts [San Jose Mercury News]
From the article by Jeremy C. Owens, published at 1:33 today: "A PayPal spinoff isn't enough for eBay -- the company now plans to lay off thousands of workers and split off yet another independent company as its auction site suffers. eBay announced Wednesday afternoon that it would slash 2,400 jobs, about 7 percent of its global work force, as it struggles to bounce back from a cyberattack that forced all users to reset their passwords. The e-commerce giant will also split off its eBay Enterprise business, which manages online sales efforts for other businesses." - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
Kevin Fox on twitter: "The day after Obama singles out EBay as a jobs creator in the State of the Union, EBay announces 2,400 layoffs." (https://twitter.com/kfury...) - Stephen Mack
[Liking to follow conversation. Do not like.] - Laura Norvig
Yeah, this is a bad one. Personally, I've never used eBay and never really "got" it. But it's surprising to me they're attributing the drop-off in customers to the password change. - Stephen Mack
I'm a sometimes eBay user. A few times a year. I had completely forgotten about the password thing. - Brian Johns
I attribute the drop-off in users to the increase in other services. eBay stopped being a real "auction" site a while ago (yes, people do still auction things on there, but most of the listings are "buy it now" types of listings), and the whole "buy it now" type of listing is much better represented in places like Amazon now. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Recovering ebay addict -> - Greg GuitarBuster
eBay junkie, mostly for specific retro type things. Always pleased! - Janet from FFHound!
every christmas i spend way too much on ebay for whatever wade's latest retro passion is ... thunderbirds, pokemon, etc. - Laura Norvig
Shannon - GlassMistress
It is possible I need one of these. Bwhahahaha!
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Brontospoon - Isola Virtuale
I definitely need that. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
This is not a brontosaurus! It's Nessie !! Emerging from the lake:-D - Selkis
unless it hasn't plesiosaurus fins it is a beautiful cyan brontosaurus - Isola Virtuale
I need it, too - chiaratiz™ from Android
OMG, it has to be mine! - мик
omg, adorbs!! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
این خیلی خوبه ابجی:دی - حوسین
ubi is right, please somebody post a link, now! - мик
thx - мик
Steele Lawman
I just logged in to Twitch.tv to watch people play Magic: the Gathering. On the home page was a guy playing poker. "Poker?" I thought; "What kind of nerd watches people stream poker?" #lackofselfawareness
heheh - lris
LOLOLOLOL. - laura x
We love you too, Lawman. - Catherine Pellegrino
(Curtis) Alan Jackson
<grumble> To eek a little more life of an older TV, I'm trying track down an inexpensive way to convert HDMI to DVI plus RCA (L/R). I might be able to go HDMI to Component +Audio assuming I can find the cables for the device plugged in there. It might just be my bad searching but my usual go-to Monoprice didn't seem to have what I was looking for.
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Anyone have any site suggestions/links/etc? Thanks! - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
I'm not sure you can do a straight conversion. What are you trying to plug into the television? Does it have a separate audio-out, or is HDMI your only option? Generally, you have to do HDMI to DVI (which can be done with a cable for <$10), but you have to do the audio as a separate feed, as far as I know. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Yeah, the source is HDMI out only. I'm looking to hook a Roku to an older TV that I'll use to watch Classic Doctor Who while my wife is gaming on another TV. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
Thought I had a solution and realized that it had HDMI as the output. <sigh> - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
you people are weird - MoTO: #TeamMarina
Your comment exemplifies your title. ;-) - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
Looks like it'll strip the HDCP copy protection. Should work. - Rodfather
Ended up going with a HDMI to DVI option via an adapter that pulls out the audio to RCA and then an HDMI to DVI cable. Now to wait and see if it all works. :) - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
laura x
"I'm The Chocolate Boy." --#toddlerx
A character worthy of a comic book adventure or two! - Corinne L
Stephen Mack
Exclusive: Potential Alibi Witness for Convicted Murderer in ‘Serial’ Breaks Silence With New Affidavit [TheBlaze.com] - http://www.theblaze.com/stories...
Exclusive: Potential Alibi Witness for Convicted Murderer in ‘Serial’ Breaks Silence With New Affidavit [TheBlaze.com]
From the post: "The former classmate of Adnan Syed’s who could hold the key to unraveling his conviction in the murder of Hae Min Lee has written a new affidavit reasserting that she was with Syed at the exact time the state argued that he killed his ex-girlfriend in 1999, and alleging that the original prosecutor in the case essentially convinced her not to participate in the appeals process." - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
Fascinating. Reinforces one of my strongest takeaways from the podcast, that prosecutor Kevin Urick is hopelessly corrupt. - Stephen Mack
BTW, I love reading real depositions and affidavits. - Stephen Mack
It's interesting contrasting their two recollections - in his the details are vague, and he has no notes, but he insists on an absolute (No, I absolutely didn't do that thing she said.) Hers is a lot more detailed, specific, and she mentions that she took notes during the conversation. - Jennifer Dittrich
Jennifer, yeah -- he's such a slime ball. Even in this brief excerpt of his interview with the blaze, he's contradicting himself. He says she told him it was to get the family off her back: "She definitely told me that she wrote what she wrote, was to appease the family, to get them off her back … that’s what I recall, the gist of the conversation, that she wrote something to get the... more... - Stephen Mack
Mary Carmen
New Sleater-Kinney: 2 thumbs up.
I'm only halfway through but loving it so far. - Stephen Mack
Sarah G.
RT @john_overholt: Attention: Everyone in special collections librarianship should read this paragraph. (From: http://www.theatlantic.com/technol...) http://t.co/e7cMuQDtl7
RT @john_overholt: Attention: Everyone in special collections librarianship should read this paragraph. (From: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/how-to-build-the-museum-of-the-future/384646/) http://t.co/e7cMuQDtl7
Stephen Mack
FriendFeed Bookmarklet Hosting: Micah W.'s ffbookmarklet v1.03 "Woot Tube" Release -- draggable version - http://www.zeigen.com/ff/
FriendFeed Bookmarklet Hosting: Micah W.'s ffbookmarklet v1.03 "Woot Tube" Release --  draggable version
Having trouble with the FF Bookmarklet in Chrome or other browsers? This is an updated version thanks to Micah and sizofroid. To make it easier to install, I'm now hosting it at my site, so you don't have to jump through hoops, you can just drag the updated version to your bookmark bar. - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
Yay! [update: uh, I don't see the actual bookmarklet on that page] - lris
Hmm, what browser are you using, Iris? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Chrome, Mac. Here's what I see http://screencast.com/t... - lris
Well that's weird. Chrome on Windows is working for me. When you go to the FF tools page, is the button there visible for you? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yes it is - lris
Iris, have you disabled JavaScript by chance? I had a coworker test with Chrome on his Mac and it was working for him. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
No. And I did have adblocker running but I disabled it for that site. - lris
I love you. - Melly
I love you too, Melly! - Stephen Mack
Iris, hold on, gonna try something to fix it. - Stephen Mack
I'm running Chrome on Windows if that helps, FYI. - Melly
Iris, I changed how the image for the button was hosted. Did that fix it for you? - Stephen Mack
Yay! I see it! - lris
Yay! Hmm, you must have some pretty high levels of security set. All I changed was copying the image for the button from FF's server to mine. - Stephen Mack
I am not aware of extra high levels of security. Maybe I'm accidentally extremely careful. :) - lris
I'm sure it's no accident. :) - Stephen Mack
Hopefully no one else is having any trouble? - Stephen Mack
I added the older versions at the bottom, just in case there are any compatibility issues. - Stephen Mack
When I saw "draggable" I first thought it meant the popup can be dragged around within the page, to make it easier to select images that it would ordinarily be covering up...like this old one: http://pastebin.ca/1323845 I am still using that one, but installed as a dedicated CustomButton. If you have the Firefox add-on installed, it's easy to install the button from here: http://appsapps.info/ff... What I would like to have is a combo of all the goodies into one awesome button. - April Russo
April, that's a cool idea. I couldn't get the one you linked to work for me, though. I wonder if we can beg Micah to add that functionality into his version. - Stephen Mack
I just did. ;) - April Russo
Ah! I don't know about CustomButton, though. What is taht? - Stephen Mack
Which one could you not get to work? The 1st or 2nd link? The 1st is instructions for modifying the official bookmarklet to use the drag & drop popup. The 2nd link requires the CustomButtons add-on installed in Firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US... You'd just click the link on my page to install the button, then right click a Firefox toolbar, go to... more... - April Russo
2nd link. But I see what you mean, it requires the add-on. Does it work on Chrome or IE, or just Firefox? - Stephen Mack
Compatibility: Mozilla Firefox 1.5+ SeaMonkey 2.0+ Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0+ Mozilla Sunbird 0.8-0.9 / Calendar 1.0pre KompoZer 0.8b1-0.8b3 Flock 0.7-1.5+ and Pale Moon (which is what I am using) - April Russo
Bump due to recent discussion. Micah, it'd be great to incorporate that feature from April's. Heard that at least one user is having trouble with the new bookmarklet. How's it working for others? (Works great for me! My default browser is Chrome.) - Stephen Mack
Working with Chrome, I'd say it works about 95% of the time really well. There are a couple sites where it just doesn't want to pull in the images, and sometimes the NY Times is tweaky, but both seem related to recent layout changes. - Jennifer Dittrich
Mine still doesn't work. I wonder if one of my plugins is breaking it. I've taken to browsing in Chrome and copying the URL over to IE when I want to post something to FF. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
It doesn't work for me: in Firefox (my default browser) it just brings up an empty box. As DB said, it might be a conflict with an extension, but I'm not sure which would be causing it. - John (bird whisperer)
First off, thank you for this work. I'll test it out in a bit. I have a lot of browsers to test in, and I use XMARKS so it should just pop to all my different browsers. - Eric - ill subliminal
Bump for Janet. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
please add this one on "firefox social" https://activations.cdn.mozilla.net/en-US... - orfe
Hero! - Antonio
Stephen Mack
My earliest memory is reading a picture book with my mother at age 3, and figuring out the word "window." #saturdayff
She was surprised and asked me how I was able to read it. I admitted I had just guessed because the word started with a w and there was a picture of a window nearby. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
C'est tout. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Starmama
My friend who took Daisy has an upstairs neighbor who's living there on false pretenses under her mother's section 8. The owner has conflict with her, the other tenants don't like her. Andrea thinks she will be put out soon and is telling the owner wonderful things about me :-)
It's walking distance to Angie's house, and the elementary me Angie & Andrea all went to in kindergarten & 1st grade - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
*crosses fingers* - Kirsten
Daisy aldı Arkadaşım sahibi onunla çatışma vardır annesinin bölüm 8. altında sahte orada yaşıyor bir üst katta komşusu olan, diğer kiracılar onu sevmiyorum. Andrea o yakında konacaktır ve benim hakkımda sahibi harika şeyler anlatıyor düşünüyor:-) - Loki
OMG, Yes, Yes, Yes ... praying for you ... does the owner know about these false pretenses? (Not suggesting the bad karma of ratting someone out but honestly, she is taking spots away from awesome families like yours.) - Laura Norvig
I'm not sure what he knows of it but I have a feeling Andrea is ready to snitch lol. I agree that it isn't fair when I've complied with everything required of me while this chick & her mom are getting over. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
fingers crossed! - Anne Bouey
That would be super cool! - SAM
Added to my prayers! - Janet from FFHound!
!!! *positive path vibes* - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Starmama
For Homeless Women, Getting Their Period Is One Of The Most Difficult Challenges http://m.huffpost.com/us...
Homeless women typically know where to find a safe place to sleep or a hot meal to eat. But when it comes to taking care of their feminine hygiene needs, they often have nowhere to turn. Tampons and sanitary pads usually top the list of needs at shelters, since they’re pricey and supporters don't often donate them. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
It's one of the things I try to remember to donate. - Jennifer Dittrich from iPhone
Just wrote myself a reminder for next donation. Also, feel like a bit of a dumb a-hole for not thinking of this during prior donations. :/ - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.16.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Listening while having my nails done for tomorrow - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
Tony Fadell is taking over the Google Glass project? http://slate.me/156j1Ib Is it dead or not dead? - J.C. Bouvier
here - Keith Teare
I'm here for the first time in months now that im employed and busy! Excited to be back again, did the podcast get discontinued? last show posted was back in Oct - Matthew Voshell
Hi all. I am happy I can make it today. I know this is annoying, but is it so hard to put the show on a feed? In my part of the world its usually friday night and sometimes there is other stuff to do. Besides you often change schedule so I miss a show every now and then. I don't write this to offend you, just liking the show and I want to watch as often as possible. So keep up the good work (and bring back the feed). Thanks! - Ludwig Ederle
@JC I'd imagine he'd take over all hardware.. why else would they have grabbed him up? - Matthew Voshell
Audio is broadcasting... - Matthew Voshell
@Matthew true that...but they did already have him w/the Nest acquihire no? - J.C. Bouvier
@JC one would hope they get rid of OEMs and build thier own stuff from now on.. too much cannibalization; yea they did for the getting into out our homes, but doing that AND selling motorola, who was supposed to be thier hardware manf, you'd think they are just switching out moto for nest designs - Matthew Voshell
Glass isn't ready. New product later this year - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
john - we can hear you. - Steve Gillmor
Yah, I suppose - I'm still not convinced @GOOG should be in the hardware business... - J.C. Bouvier
@JC also a valid statement - Matthew Voshell
I meant isn't dead. - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
Listen to G3 where we discussed Glass yesterdY - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
I think glass has it place, great for doctors and police in ferguson, MO, but prob not a consumer product - Matthew Voshell
I shut Scoble up - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
Yes, you did Francine! - christina sponselli
hello beautiful chat room - Steve Gillmor
Yo steve - Tom Guarriello
finally got a break to join... good timing - Jerry Schuman
G3 would love to see some of you come to our chat room usually on Thursdays. - Steve Gillmor
Feed for Gillmor Gang can be gotten from http://techcrunch.com/video... - Keith Teare
Keith, sorry the timing didn't work for the call yesterday - Jerry Schuman
except it's empty, Keith - Kevin Marks
JT must not have great upload speeds from the undisclosed cave; video is kinda jumpy but everyone else looks great - Matthew Voshell
yeah Steve knows when pretty ladies fly through the air - Steve Gillmor
the photo of scoble in the shower with glass on still haunts my dreams - Matthew Voshell
Topic suggestion: Nest integration coming to google now? voice commands etc - Matthew Voshell
Google's Nest ex-Apple guy will remove Glass front facing camera and sell to industry. - clive boulton
Glass stops selling the day after Scoble's birthday. Coincidence or conspiracy? - Alex de Soto
conspiracy! - clive boulton
ooops I was signed in as Steve - Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerry - no problem - Keith Teare
Yes you were - Steve Gillmor
sorry Steve;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin is right, except you can tilt your head up to turn Glass on, completely hands free. - Alex de Soto
Glass eye-watcher is a better wearable human computer interface than a watch - clive boulton
i know for a fact per a source that google is talking to police depts, but trying to figure out how to make it cheaper, police depts dont want to spend $2500 per - Matthew Voshell
right, but to talk to it you need to press the button, no? - Kevin Marks
Apart from Search and Gmail Google fails on creating other products - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Kevin.. can't you say "ok, glass" as well? - Matthew Voshell
Googlebase. Google+ - Moe Glitz from iPhone
insert immature joke here...., what body part do you want augmented? - Matthew Voshell
Matthew - using a different camera today -- old school. Sorry. Bandwidth seems OK from the cave. - John Taschek
what's it called? company? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Devs have sold Explorer for Epson glasses http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin... - clive boulton
Dropcams can be scary too if you forget to turn them off during parties! - Alex de Soto
@JT... yea i cant see your skin pores.. come on! ;) - Matthew Voshell
Epson glass is the real Joe 90 http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin... - clive boulton
Unless you connect to certain apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@kevinMarks... good crop you got growing behind you..tastey? - Matthew Voshell
very tasty - Kevin Marks
Nest has made a point of being about 'home automation'. Very frightened by all the dead bodies in Cleantech, I think. Thread protocol description also gets those 'consumer' and home words way upfront in all announcements to distinguish from Industrial IoT. First application for Smart Glass is clearly IIoT - so out of Nest comfort zone. NEST & Glass = Not a goToMarket match - No one is talking about that - Therese Sullivan
Unfortunately I heard the wearable camera's angle doesn't lend itself to a good perspective. - christina sponselli
I like "Hey Siri" but that misconstrued request is very evocative of Keir's "Open the pod bay door Hal!" - J.C. Bouvier
Sometime in May, I'll have Alexa in our bedroom. Amazon's Echo that is. - Alex de Soto
@Alex... i signed up for early release of Amazon Echo.. i'm genuinly exceited to get that for $99 - Matthew Voshell
Why spy on the Russians when they are walking down your streets - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Indeed Matthew. Willing to try it for $99. - Alex de Soto
Kevin's oranges look great - although his camera should be crisper to do justice to the great quality possible on this system - Roger Shepherd
@KevinMarks... i heard there are more cameras in London than in any other city in the world... true? - Matthew Voshell
At every opportunity those who would take away our security and privacy seek to do so. In Casablanca it's "Round up the usual suspects"; in the UK it's "Propose the snooper's charter". - Roger Shepherd
people will try new tech for a couple hundred bucks or less. But what Google did with Google Glass I think really pissed people off. Expensive to the user Beta test - Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine... when do you get in tomorrow? - Tina Chase Gillmor
i think that is true - Kevin Marks
Kevin knows how jelous I am over his oranges ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Tina... i think Kevin should send everyone oranges for a end-of-show fruit review - Matthew Voshell
Google is going headlong into becoming an actual utility. They just announced a 150M+ investment in a large solar array in Utah. - Jerry Schuman
but if you really want to win me over.... lemons! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina! - Jerry Schuman
Hey there Jerry! - Tina Chase Gillmor
first show in a long time for me. My startup has been keeping me swamped - Jerry Schuman
Tina: Limoncello! - Alex de Soto
fun noises! - Tina Chase Gillmor
So no keys to the Walled Gardens - Moe Glitz from iPhone
ALex..... Yes! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Keith - "they're trying to make that illegal" - do you think they understand that level os subtlety? - Roger Shepherd
the lemon tree is next to the orange tree - Kevin Marks
holy moly. Kevin has oranges AND lemons. Meyers? - Tina Chase Gillmor
FBI was watching the man in OH that was planning that attack against the US Capital... they arrested him after he purchased the guns but had not committed a crime... all he did was speak out on twitter... slippery slop that your tweets are admissible in court? "your honor i present to the jury a tweet from the defendant, out for the night, lol, smiley face" - Matthew Voshell
Ok... enough fruit talk.... wait, maybe I can turn fruit talk into reck talk? - Tina Chase Gillmor
I meant tech talk - Tina Chase Gillmor
Barack Obama and David Cameron fail to see eye to eye on surveillance British prime minister takes tougher line on internet companies than US president at White House talks on Islamist threats - Roger Shepherd
just use Tor... I do for most things - Matthew Voshell
Only this time the Reds are embedded inside our countries - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Steve's pretty aqua blue shirt looks white. I think i have a lighting problem - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Steve... no.. unless they let people vote via a smartphone app.. then you'd prob see a very different congress and policy - Matthew Voshell
I do care. I don't want the crims to syphon off my banking and other commercial dara. - Roger Shepherd
The Grauniad yesterday: A secret US cybersecurity report warned that government and private computers were being left vulnerable to online attacks from Russia, China and criminal gangs because encryption technologies were not being implemented fast enough. - Roger Shepherd
If I could vote with my smartphone I would be voting more often and probably feel more engaged - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tor was breached -- at least in theory - this past summer. Any impact? - John Taschek
darn I missed a good drink take - Tina Chase Gillmor
ISIS is Using Social Media to Reach YOU, Its New Audience http://www.thedailybeast.com/article... - christina sponselli
dept of Veterans affair takes over a year to patch critical vulnerabilities that should be patched within 30 days.... govts are always behind and with the exponential growth of tech is showing how far behind these govts really are; it doesnt take much to breaking most govt networks... - Matthew Voshell
Doesn't Tor exist only to provide a lot of traffic to hide the communication of spys? - Roger Shepherd
And Smart Drones - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Don't get me started about trying to work with govt agencies on their websites. Yuk. Glad that's over. - Laura Norvig
And then there's A.I. Check out what this group of thought leaders is up to: http://futureoflife.org/misc... - Alex de Soto
@John i haven't heard about that but regardless if its breached the traffic is bounced around so breaking encryption wouldnt matter.. right? i could be completely wrong on this - Matthew Voshell
**** FREEDOM **** - Jerry Schuman
He's right... people willingly give up data making zuckerberg and other rich... they aren't making us - Matthew Voshell
now the government can have an "FBI" file on everyone. used to be just a few - Tina Chase Gillmor
Topic suggestion: Facebook for Work, mock-ups released yesterday, thought about it for my company but can you trust the data on there not ending up in wrong hands via corp espionage http://techcrunch.com/2015... - Matthew Voshell
It's called a Facebook Profile, Tina - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think the breach allowed insight into the data wrapped up by the onion servers. I don't know enough -- it's still better than almost everything. - John Taschek
it's me. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Xfinity rules! - Tom Guarriello
moe - yes, exactly - Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook & Twitter not doing enough to take down a lot of ISIS Propaganda - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Steve... south park has your back https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Matthew Voshell
talk about the mad rush to unbundling which industry said would NEVER happen - Jerry Schuman
Nor did the Lego move - christina sponselli
but jaimie foxx won for Ray right? - Matthew Voshell
Guys I hate to say this. But I do not think African Americans need to be concerned these days about Oscar nominations - Tony Stanislawski
Wait...Aren't we in a post-racial society...? - Tom Guarriello
Apparently the Oscar Nominations are 'All White' - Moe Glitz from iPhone
They are more worried about what is going on in the real world - Tony Stanislawski
isn't Selma up for best picture? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Director of "Selma" on the daily show, great interview http://thedailyshow.cc.com/episode... - Matthew Voshell
Symbolism, Tony, symbolism... - Tom Guarriello
Yes. Selma is up for Best Picture and Best Song. - Alex de Soto
Most Blacks these days are saying what Civil Right movement? - Tony Stanislawski
I know Tom! - Tony Stanislawski
Yea... Chris Hemsworth know tech? ooooooooooooooooooooooooook, what hacker looks like that? i bet he doesnt even drink Monster energy drink in the movie - Matthew Voshell
Roger - I do think they are quite sophisticated - Keith Teare
Just frustrating....If this show talks about Oscar nominations then it needs to talk about Ferguson... - Tony Stanislawski
Master Chef Junior is the place to identify talent!!! - Tom Guarriello
In 1975 The Homebrew Computer Club launched the PC Revolution. 40 Years later we should honour those visionaries. http://t.co/BgolM6ZqyW - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Have there been any updates on the Sorkin Jobs movie? So bummed Christian Bale passed - Matthew Voshell
Woz and Jobs checked in. Even Bill Gates - Moe Glitz from iPhone
That was Alex Scoble on FB - Tony Stanislawski
Do watch "Ida." Nominated for Foreign Language Film and Cinematography. It's on Amazon now. Amazing cinematography. - Alex de Soto
"junk science" PONO - Tom Guarriello
Got in a big fight with the Birthday Boy - Tony Stanislawski
The Scoble thread about Pono in Facebook is hilarious. Arguing with his brother tl;dr - Laura Norvig
Coke Pepsi redux... - Tom Guarriello
Pono is crazy expensive too...kinda funky design...Neil Young is still the man though.. but old age might be catching up to him - Matthew Voshell
that's the same in our house. I hate that - Tina Chase Gillmor
Ella doesn't like loud music - Tina Chase Gillmor
Coke! Pono! - Laura Norvig
The Sorkin Jobs Movie looks like a remake of the previous one - Moe Glitz from iPhone
+1 Laura - Tom Guarriello
@Moe... Sorkin wrote it... and he said previously is going to focus on 3 points in job's life... i have faith in the writing.. but it has to be played by the right person.. Bale was perfect from both attitude and looks... - Matthew Voshell
Should do a movie when Jobs returned to Apple, up until he sadly died - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Moe what i've heard is that it starts with him debuting the iphone and then having flash backs during the speech - Matthew Voshell
Regarding quality - I really like Tidal - sounds much better than Spotify - Roger Shepherd
If Scoble was here this would be a good fight. :) - Tony Stanislawski
Things sound great on my Alexa from Amazon! - Tony Stanislawski
I'm bluetooth from my macbook to Jabra Move... $99 sounds great with 12 hour battery - Matthew Voshell
True Matthew. But it still covers the same time period as the Aston Kutcher version - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Meanwhile, the music itself... - Tom Guarriello
Have a nice weekend y'all! - J.C. Bouvier
Yea.. .called his life haha what did you expect.. no i think they'll leave chunks out.. who knows.. Sorkin will teach us the ways to write well, which includes cocaine and 20 showers a day (google it) - Matthew Voshell
Heard it's the iPod like the other movie - Moe Glitz from iPhone
HD has the same issues with compression... ESPN HD is amazing but Fox's is AWFUL, idk what compression they use - Matthew Voshell
gosh I love when nerdy men spout out model numbers - Tina Chase Gillmor
@tina LOL - Tony Stanislawski
Those are fighting words, Marks!! - Tom Guarriello
Vinyl is making a comeback too http://theweek.com/article... - Matthew Voshell
which relies on compression, recording, players, headphones... so many variables - Matthew Voshell
I really liked the way HBO recorded the live music on Treme. You felt that you were right in the room. - Alex de Soto
the cable co's vary compression by channel to save bandwidth, yes - Kevin Marks
Uh, that's not just in tech ... - Laura Norvig
Oh sure. When Sheryl says what women are always saying, well then people notice - Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Facebook At Work anything more than Secret Groups? We use those for our classes and they work very well. - Tom Guarriello
Over to the Enterprise answer from John - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Tina what do you think about being a woman in tech? - Matthew Voshell
The joke about Facebook at Work is that there already a product that does it. It is called Facebook. - christina sponselli
Tricaster long pause. Maybe comcast. - clive boulton
Im on the periphery not so much in th trenches. BUT my friends are constantly talking about how much they are up against shitty attitudes - Tina Chase Gillmor
Secret Facebook Groups are great for sharing information amongst affiliated groups. Lots of functionality, of course, and everyone's familiar with the interface. - Tom Guarriello
Yea is like secrete facebook groups with a newsfeed.. plus do companies trust put thier info on there? - Matthew Voshell
Why would Work colleagues use Facebook@Work when they can just shout across the room to them - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I put FB at work in context with revelations from Snapchat conversation post-Sony hack. Getting ready for bubble pop finds them running for shelter into the enterprise. Right, @KevinMarks like Slack. Video chat has great potential in the enterprise for same reason as Google Glass, eg facilities operations. Blogged about this www.buildingcontext.me - Therese Sullivan
Very hard to trust - John Taschek
what does salesforce use? - kat turning
Chatter - Kevin Marks
+1 Therese Sullivan (enterprise cover when the bubble pops) - clive boulton
turn that shit off, Boys - Tina Chase Gillmor
the products are great... but people have to use it.... which is hard for employees over 30 - Matthew Voshell
It heard us talking about it ... (Slack) - Laura Norvig
we use TeamworkPM and link it to Google Drive - Matthew Voshell
@Matthew - not sure I agree with the ageism but for reluctant users you basically have to put something they HAVE to get behind the tool. They'll get used to it. - Laura Norvig
@Laura.. i agree.. but ive been spending the past 3 weeks at work explaining to our older sales force (45 and older) and i have to teach them repeatedly how to even add a video call to a google cal invite let alone our PM/Sales cloud software - Matthew Voshell
Ha, that's actually pretty advanced ... where I work there's a lot of email attachments. smh. Even though we have Chatter and Sharepoint. - Laura Norvig
right, having a good document repository is hard - Kevin Marks
@laura.... hahaha yep... care to join me when i bash my head against the wall over and over again? :/ - Matthew Voshell
sharepoint is not a good one, Quip or Google docs are better - Kevin Marks
John Taschek is sinking - Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeah, Sharepoint makes it hard to convince people they should use a system like that. - Laura Norvig
I wrote a thing today about indieweb tools: http://www.kevinmarks.com/we-like... - Kevin Marks
we use google drive and ive setup a google site but no one ever looks at it... JT has it right... i'm having to reteach these guys how to work... they are stuck in the old paradigm... - Matthew Voshell
slack with gdocs integration is quite good - Kevin Marks
Our CEO solved email attachment's. He had the IT guy disconnect the exchange server and put into in a taxi, then fired the IT guy. Kick ass! - clive boulton
It takes a ton of training, adoption from the C-suite, and sometimes mandated practices. I guess. Or I could just go work with people who understand cloud repositories - Laura Norvig
@Clive that is awesome! - Tony Stanislawski
@Kevin slack is great... but seems to be better suited for Devs etc, was tough sell to my workforce - Matthew Voshell
Where was the taxi going? - John Taschek
Kevin has a great gigle - Tina Chase Gillmor
@John It went to where I work and more broadly the educational systemt - Tony Stanislawski
I love this topic! - Tony Stanislawski
Kevin is right... living on the line b/t synchronous/asynchronous world is the tight rope i walk daily - Matthew Voshell
lost sound - Kevin Marks
can you call me back tina - Kevin Marks
@Steve exactly - Tony Stanislawski
I can't hear steve - Kevin Marks
@Tony. The exchange server was in Ohio, exchange server taxied to Boston. Took them 6 weeks to get it back after they had learned to dogfood our own Chatter/Sharepoint. - clive boulton
and Franco is still dead. - Laura Norvig
Laura he, he, he - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Clive Awesome Sauce@ - Tony Stanislawski
consumption vastly out weigh productivity. said Kieth. very good comment - kat turning
call back again - Kevin Marks
What happened to Box? - Laura Norvig
callme kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
#2? - Kevin Marks
yay - Kevin Marks
next couple of week - Apples results are due out week after next.... .they'll cause discussion and debate (whatever the results0 - Roger Shepherd
finally got Kevin back - Tina Chase Gillmor
Enterprise software morphs to cloud-enabled hybrid-SaaS. Google Search Appliance! - clive boulton
@Keith I am with you! - Tony Stanislawski
Apple Watch will be the game changer - Tony Stanislawski
It might incremental but it will start the change - Tony Stanislawski
tony - what's your take on the watch? - Tina Chase Gillmor
First Watches will be made cool again - Tony Stanislawski
Which is a big deal - Tony Stanislawski
@Tony i have my doubts about watch... kinda see it as the Tesla Model S, it works, its nice, but expensive and only certain people can afford it... - Matthew Voshell
350 starting - Tony Stanislawski
not sure that is an argument - Tony Stanislawski
Google has lost its vision by removing Google Glass - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Google needs to innovate the search experience. Feels stale. - clive boulton
most people don't buy pricy watches - Kevin Marks
That haves will have it..it will get cheaper...and change the computing paradigm - Tony Stanislawski
My guess - Tony Stanislawski
That's pretty funny, Moe! - John Taschek
but those who do will buy apple ones - Kevin Marks
Google making a spectacle of itself without Glass - John Taschek
haha! - clive boulton
A glasshole without glass is just a hole - John Taschek
ok dick tracey... i mean tony - Matthew Voshell
Lol john - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@JT... Yes! lol, Proctologists Dream, wall to wall assholes - Matthew Voshell
Show sure is different without Robert - nb not better, not worse but DIFFERENT - Roger Shepherd
Scoble's most famous photo has to be in the shower with glass - clive boulton
nama the show!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Google's Search UI on Mobile sucks - Moe Glitz from iPhone
RIP Rock Scully ... - Laura Norvig
@Clive - I had only recently erased that image from my memory, and now it's right back there - John Taschek
Stuck in the 90's - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The search UI is fairly bad -- but the mic UI is good. - John Taschek
I'll try the next Glass. It will be better UI - Francine Hardaway from iPhone
@John - exactly! sorry:) - clive boulton
And maybe Barry Sless who plays with Moonalice and DNB ... - Laura Norvig
See ya'll next week! - Matthew Voshell
Google's search experince hasn't changed since Marissa oversaw it. - clive boulton
@Laura. Cool if Chubby Wombat guests on the Gillmor Gang. - clive boulton
yes it has clive - Kevin Marks
Not very much. Marrisa was the Vice President of Google Product Search until the end of 2010: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - clive boulton
Micah
Grandma lived almost 90 years and never drove an automobile.
My wife never saw her wear pants. Of any kind. Skirts only. - Micah from FFHound!
She did knit a lace table cloth, a gift to her granddaughter, my wife. 750,000 stitches. - Micah from FFHound!
Sounds like she didn't have time to drive! - Todd Hoff
Grandma sounds very similar to mine! Mine died at 89 and never drove, and she also was a knitter. She did wear pants, though. - Melly
My gma didn't wear pants until after gpa died. Then it was all pants, all the time. - Marie
Same with mine. She lived to be 92 and walked everywhere... which is probably why she live to 92. - Ken Morley
Victor Ganata
I am still not convinced infinite scroll is a great idea.
I kind of hate it - Eric - ill subliminal
I'm fairly convinced it is not. - bentley
I hate it so much. - Jed
who said that? - Pete
It can easily ruin my entire day. Easily. - Hookuh Tinypants
I dislike it and turn it off whenever I can. - John (bird whisperer)
Just go to the footer to determine how to turn off infinite scroll.... Duh. - Joe
Not a fan at all. - Corinne L
Scroll to the bottom to click the contact/copyright/sitemap/anything else you desperately want to click, but can only momentarily see, and are not quick enough to click. - Michael W. May
Why? Pages are artificial, take screen real-estate, hurt performance, and don't fit a world where data is update constantly. - Todd Hoff
Hate it. 1) because you can't get to the footer 2) because so much data on one page 3) because you can't provide a meaningful permalink to discrete data. Todd, a page can be designed to pull updated data without having to be infinite scroll. - Laura Norvig
There's really no sense to a bookmark to a page when the underlying data set is always changing. And footer stuff is better in some sort of about page than wasting valuable screen real-estate, especially in a mobile world. Agreed on the last part, a page and infinite scroll do roughly the same thing on the backend, but the infinite scroll does make more sense when events are dynamically updating something like a twitter stream. Did I convince you? :-) - Todd Hoff
Maybe it's specific to iOS, but the worst part is when the page size gets so huge it starts triggering refreshes in all the other tabs I have open. - Victor Ganata
Page-search doesn't work on a page that isn't all there. - bentley
Can't stand it. - Greg GuitarBuster
sparklemotion - Big Joe Silence
I don't mind it where appropriate and when the designers have remembered that yes, this means they have to put the footer content elsewhere. I *don't* like it when you're on a news site and scroll down to the bottom of the article and suddenly you're on another article. - Deborah Fitchett
The Other Yvonne
Logan doesn't play Minecraft yet, but watches YouTube videos about Minecraft whenever he gets the chance. It's all he talks about. I'm so sick of it already. If Minecraft was a person I'd punch it in the face.
*fistbump* - Marina's Godmother :-)
It's actually easier when they do play it, because then at least they're more likely to be doing it instead of talking about it! - Marina's Godmother :-)
*fistbump* back! - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
My son sits here and watches people play it on YouTube. I don't get it. - Eric - ill subliminal
I'm afraid he'd then want to PLAY it all the time. That would drive me over the edge. - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
I play it and watch people play it. Then again people play football in the park then watch other people play it on TV so I'm cool with it. - Johnny
I used to stand and watch people play Pac-Man so I get the appeal, but I guess today it's just so much more content. It's such a big industry. - Eric - ill subliminal
His personality (he's 6) seems to be the more he watches the meaner and more disobedient he becomes. He's like an angry drunk. It creates more conflict in our home life. He needs more activity than he realizes. - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
The live streams on twitch.tv are popular too. It's interesting watching different designs. - Rodfather
Yvonne, yes! Minecraft can't be at the expense of physical activity. OTOH ... - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Resistance is futile. Honestly, if you learn about it enough to set it up so he's just building stuff instead of playing as a game, it's pretty creative. But yeah, Wade talks about it a lot. I pretend to listen for awhile and then perfect the art of tuning it out or just break it to him that I don't want to hear about it. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Both my kids play and while my son typically isn't a very talkative person, he once jabbered to me about Minecraft for 2 hours straight while I was driving somewhere. No breaks. I am not exaggerating. He also watches one particular series of Minecraft Youtube vids and it's gotten to the point where I can't tell if the stories he tells me of what he's done in Minecraft is stuff he's actually done or he's just projecting himself onto these vids that he's watched. - rönin
Crazy how it's taken hold of so many! I'm sure we'll give in at some point, but not yet. =) - The Other Yvonne
Hahahaha, Stampy friggin' Longnose and iBallistic fecking Squid. Josiah knows if his behaviour falls below acceptable levels then his iPad is the first thing to go. There will be days when it seems everything he does is Minecraft related, but he might mix the actual activities up even though they all revolve around the same thing - so watching the videos, playing the game, reading the... more... - Melly
And awesome kids book about computer games is "But It's Just A Game", helps teach kids about balance: http://www.amazon.com/But-Its... - Melly
Thanks for the recommendation, Melly! - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
OMG, Melly - Stampy! His voice drives me INSANE. Before him it was these two guys who were much more mellow and easy to take. I miss those days. - Laura Norvig
Jayden talks at me about Pokemon, the Marvel Universe, Yu Gi Oh, Sonic and friends, all his obsessions...constantly. Every day. Ad nauseum. I care about none of it. He knows, and doesn't shut up. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
I'm okay with discussing it occasionally. But they seem to get stuck on it. don't they? I try to steer the conversation elsewhere but it doesn't always work... - Melly
I've told Logan he can only watch Minecraft videos once a day during the school week. Hopefully then we'll make it to the end of the week unharmed. =) - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
I played Skylanders with Josiah today. Together, one mission takes about half an hour. That I can handle. I've tried Minecraft and just can't get into it! - Melly
I think Minecraft is great. It's digital legos. Except you can't walk around inside lego buildings. - Bruce Lewis
Bruce, you can if you have enough legos. - Amit Patel
Today Josiah keeps talking about the Pokemon texture (?) pack in Minecraft. His interests are melding, help! - Melly
Melly, there's a mod called Pixelmon that Wade plays - sounds like he and Josiah have a lot in common. - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Funny you should mention that - Josh is getting it for Josiah this weekend as a good behaviour/helper reward ;o) - Melly
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.09.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
room for me today? - Kevin Marks
the hell with this errands, I'm going to listen in! - Darius Dunlap
Here - Keith Teare
It always starts like this... - Doc
Hey, Doc. Big week for you! Congrats on New Clues! - Tom Guarriello
Thanks. Congrat @dweinberger as well - Doc
Of course! - Tom Guarriello
Is anything on ustream yet? I'm guessing not, but don't wanna check and hose the connection. - Doc
Test pattern and now sound - Tom Guarriello
There they are... - Darius Dunlap
Hey David and Doc looking forward to this today - Dale Lature
oops. back to test pattern - Darius Dunlap
Is Zuckerberg watching! - clive boulton
Clive: He's busy reading not watching! - Alex de Soto
I'd rather know what Doc and David are reading - clive boulton
Hey David! - Tom Guarriello
Blues Clues - Kevin Marks
Yep. and tweeted it! - Darius Dunlap
I've read it. And Dave Winer's Listicle - Francine Hardaway
there now, dig that header graphic - Jerome Hughes
Hey everybody! Happy new years! - Chris Hale
Cat Herding should be mentioned, for sure! - Tom Guarriello
Too much living in the past. I'm out. - Thomas Rector
TGIF people. - J.C. Bouvier
hey Y'all! - Tina Chase Gillmor
I do remind folks that the Web is not just what Google indexes. - Alex de Soto
good to see you all here in 2015! - Tina Chase Gillmor
HNY, Tina - Tom Guarriello
thx Tom - Tina Chase Gillmor
Apps vs. Net comin up - Tom Guarriello
Doc if you could tilt up just a tad. great. you over corrected. - Tina Chase Gillmor
other way - Tina Chase Gillmor
The four big boys Google, Apple, Facebook, and Amazon (or GAFA) - clive boulton
great thx Doc - Tina Chase Gillmor
Why aren't we talking about CES ? So much stuff came out this week - Chris Hale
I have the laptop in a drawer to make the background work. - Doc
Apps to me are what makes the web alot more powerful and contextual - Chris Hale
Chris - we will round up CES next week. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Connectivity v. Silos seems like the theme - Tom Guarriello
oh gotcha. But wont all the stuff from ces already be obsolete? Hehe. This industry moves too fast sometimes - Chris Hale
Internet needs a few more open protocols - Chris Hale
plague of auto-play ads that stall and don't stream right are the worst ever. - clive boulton
especially for video and audio - Chris Hale
ChatCenter is http and URLs - Keith Teare
Advertising needs a new way of thinking on Mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Yahoo might remake advertising buy CNN and flow ads from mobile to TV? - clive boulton
I agree Moe. - Chris Hale
i think beacons will change a lot of that. I worry advertisers and companies will ruin a perfectly cool technology - Chris Hale
darn, i missed Keith hitting himself - Tina Chase Gillmor
scroll to the bottom of http://www.kevinmarks.com/newclue... and see the interactions - Kevin Marks
Apps simplify the web - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I just fell off - Kevin Marks
call me bac - Kevin Marks
ill call you back - Tina Chase Gillmor
there you are - Tina Chase Gillmor
no video - Kevin Marks
in some ways, yes it simplifies the web but it i think the point Steve G keeps making about the importance of notifications as part of that simplification is starting to get seriously cluttered. - Chris Hale
App bubble in the tech economy about to shrink or burst? - christina sponselli
Apple app designers currently having robust debate about economics of today's app world - Tom Guarriello
did yall hear that figure that just came out that the IOS app store clears like 500k a week worldwide? - Chris Hale
Interesting that the clues harp on apps and ads but don't have anything to say about "public relations" - Frank Paynter
Yes, some apps also support those Values... Think reading and sharing apps that allow various workflows for bookmarking, organizing, research, writing, thinking.... - Darius Dunlap
Brands need to stop advertising to Consumers and engage with us more on mobile. If they do that then they will get our name, our payment details and our chat walls - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Steve, i tweeted you a link to a picture of the Cluetrain Books- the original and the 10th anniversary update - Dale Lature
Frank, we hoped that jpeople could take the too many clues, and run off and add their own. We actually took on PR pretty bluntly in Cluetrain the book. Didn't want to repeat ourselves. - Doc
2015 iOS based Macbook coming -- (a definite maybe) -- no App bubble! - clive boulton
i think the problem is that technology can do some scary stuff and there is very little governance about limits to how advertisers should use data they have collected. I think don't be creepy never enters advertisers minds. They really need to think about this stuff more - Chris Hale
Maybe the app bubble is apps available only in company stores. - Doc
Beacons - Moe Glitz from iPhone
cat pulled my headphones out - Kevin Marks
1:30 in Santa Barbara is leaf blowing time. Damn. So noisy... - Doc
+1 Doc. Salesforce apps! - clive boulton
Cats taking over the internet. - Alex de Soto
minimum viable centralization (nice one Doc) - clive boulton
centralization problem, it sucks all the profits from the edges and connections (music industry) - clive boulton
That was Brian Behlendorf's line, clive. Credit where due. - Doc
homphily, that's called. Ethan Zuckerman's Rewire book. - Doc
Is Steve still here? - Doc
Steve's been disappeared... - Tom Guarriello
The next mobile app that can create the best Brand Experience between Consumers & Businesses. Will become the next pillar of Social Media beside Facebook & Twitter for Brands - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Everybody is now this guy: http://www.acceler8or.com/tags... - Doc
Brian Behlendorf's MVC line concise business plan for startup - clive boulton
All the stuff hanging off that guy is on your phone now. - Doc
May even be featured on Brands labels - Moe Glitz from iPhone
hm. the version I reposted still hase the evil inclinations bit http://www.kevinmarks.com/newclue.... - Kevin Marks
This is not an all-happy wall: http://www.truste.com/us-cons... - Doc
i really feel like i wish more stuff on phones was centralized - Chris Hale
the problem I have with RSS isn't the web - Kevin Marks
like, i have 6 apps to run all the automation devices for my apartment - Chris Hale
not good for simple home automation - Chris Hale
and id still love one app that i use for any text based communication with people - Chris Hale
since now there seems to be 50 ways to contact people, sms, tweet, fb , google+, whatsapp, yo, and too many more - Chris Hale
Chewing the fats - Moe Glitz from iPhone
people navigate those deliberately though - Kevin Marks
deep linking is good but not a cure for this problem - Chris Hale
Apps are the new TV - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Growth at firms like Salesforce will peter out w/o decentralizing SaaS. Mobile apps case in point. - clive boulton
i know Kevin,but from an efficiency and overal user experience it is kinda sucky - Chris Hale
Chris Hale - Tantek has an interesting concept, the contact page as an app... http://tantek.com/contact.html - Darius Dunlap
the silos don't want you to interoperate though - Kevin Marks
there was a point where they were all using xmpp, but they forked - Kevin Marks
Like TV - Moe Glitz from iPhone
yes darius - Kevin Marks
+1 david! - Doc
yeah Kevin. I hear ya. I have been considering building my own app this whole thing irks me that much. Thats part of why i built my own home automation framework. Everyone elses system has a lot of gaps - Chris Hale
silos need incentives to interoperate (Judy's built Epic Systems EHR profits on silos) - clive boulton
Thank you Steve! Authoring today is easier for the average human being! - Simon Benvenutto
I do wish folks wouldn't perpetrate the idea the GoDaddy crap sandwich is inevitable. Support and promote Hover.com and other good vendors. - Darius Dunlap
do you think people want more apps or less apps? - Chris Hale
More Chris - Moe Glitz from iPhone
are we still on the air? - Doc
can you hera us? - Kevin Marks
They don't search on Mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Not here - Tom Guarriello
i am middle of the road. Sometimes i get frustrated when i look at my app screen and see apps. I find myself having to use spotlight search on my iphone almost all the time to find a particular app - Chris Hale
oops. feed down - Darius Dunlap
Down in London - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Steve just cut out in UK - Simon Benvenutto
are we dark on the 'cast? - Doc
hang on, the tricaster crashed - Kevin Marks
rebooting - Kevin Marks
Steve is rebooting us. - Doc
Yep, Chris. likewise here... - Darius Dunlap
But the best apps really do provide a better workflow and experience. - Darius Dunlap
aha. I finally figured out how to get on the backchannel. I want a badge. - david weinberger
Especially for those of us who want to do more than read and listen. - Darius Dunlap
Will iOS Macbook take us further down the rabbit hole... - clive boulton
Steve thinks we're 90 secs away from reboot - david weinberger
+1 david - Alex de Soto
no such thing, Clive. - Darius Dunlap
Meanwhile, Doc seems to have invited a leafblower into his living room - david weinberger
It's the sponsor's fault... - Doc
Welcome to the REAL Gillmor Gang, David - Tom Guarriello
The five of us are taking the opportunity to swig some cheap bourbon - david weinberger
ARe we back? - Doc
I never thought the web was particularly democratic: it is server centric, you always surf alone, you need an IP, HTML skills, etc. Nowhere near as democratic as a free, open, P2P medium such as CB radio :) that's yet to be realised, on a global scale. - Simon Benvenutto
We seem to be up on ustream. No? - david weinberger
But an iPad, especially when outfitted with a keyboard (because I'm an old guy who types fast) is a really useful tool. - Darius Dunlap
Video no audio - Tom Guarriello
refresh ustream to see us - Kevin Marks
Not yet, Darius - Apple keeps back fitting iOS features to OS X... - clive boulton
Steve, we lost you when you were commenting about Facebook and video. - christina sponselli
yes - Keith Teare
steve is initializing tricaster. a few more secs - david weinberger
no volume - clive boulton
Still no audio here - Tom Guarriello
no audio for me - Graham Zulauf
working on the vid - david weinberger
can you hear us? - david weinberger
Yep, no audio here, either - Darius Dunlap
an you see us? - david weinberger
Tommy? - david weinberger
yes - Dale Lature
(old man reference) - david weinberger
Audio is back - Alex de Soto
Sound back! - Simon Benvenutto
how about video? - david weinberger
audio is back for me - Graham Zulauf
Yes...it's Pink Floyd... - Tom Guarriello
we hear you - clive boulton
video is working - Graham Zulauf
Steve=Pinball Wizard? - christina sponselli
Yep, Clive. But that's a long way from "iOS Mac". They're not dumbing down the mac, but bringing some really useful integration to the workflow of multiple devices. - Darius Dunlap
ah ha, you're still there! - Laura Norvig
So weird. We've NEVER had the Tricaster fail like that. It wasn't our power. - Tina Chase Gillmor
and some more levels of control via app store in Mac OS X - david weinberger
email, and even newsgroups... :-) - Darius Dunlap
I just love the way Kevin says "Twitter". ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
There's too many Apps on iOS and Android for someone to ignore bringing apps to the desktop. - clive boulton
Totally agree with Kevin... Ev does a nice job taking about some of this in his recent post. - Darius Dunlap
As long as their friends are there. - christina sponselli
I agree the app stores and the web in general are becoming very nanny state, its less about communicating and more about transacting, which is sad... that's the price we are paying for great cheap infrastructure, compared to 15 years ago. - Simon Benvenutto
Well said, Keith - Tom Guarriello
+1 david weinberger "some more levels of control via app store in Mac OS X" - clive boulton
Yep, Simon and David... agree about App Stores. They (especially Apple) need to think deeply about what they are for and how they should work for users. - Darius Dunlap
That flavor of idealism is hard to imagine amongst human beings, Keith - Tom Guarriello
Tom - I'm still hoping :-) - Keith Teare
And, I applaud you for it, K - Tom Guarriello
Missing from enterprise is some way to orchestrate apps into a suite collection on/off the desktop - clive boulton
slack does that to some extent - Kevin Marks
Aren't we dependent on the control of ISPs anyway? - Alex de Soto
looking at slack - thx Kevin - clive boulton
Human beings are imperfect. But the New Clues remind people who weren't there at the beginning that there WAS a philosophy - Francine Hardaway
A lot of it has to do with being right. - Darius Dunlap
Dave's listicle was easier to read. - Francine Hardaway
Thanks, francine - david weinberger
I shared it with people who said tl;dr - Kevin Marks
+1 Francine - Tom Guarriello
It's related to Powerpoint - Francine Hardaway
yep, like the listicle - Laura Norvig
+1 on the philosophy, not specifically the listicle - Tom Guarriello
Dave's a talented guy. I just wished he worked and played well with others - Francine Hardaway
It makes the Cluetrain a franchise, like Terminator - Francine Hardaway
Or, Hunger Games! - Tom Guarriello
They're baaaaaack! - Tina Chase Gillmor
chrome team is working at bringing Android Apps to chromebook. Apple / MSFT can't ignore. - clive boulton
Lovely irony - Darius Dunlap
That's small m vs. Medium - Tom Guarriello
One could compete with Medium with Large. - Doc
I LOVE Medium. But I've always been a Ev product fan - Francine Hardaway
“Live the values you want the Internet to promote.” http://www.kevinmarks.com/newclue.... - Kevin Marks
Is that like being the change you'd like to see? - Francine Hardaway
That's one of my favorites, too, Kevin. That's the Gandhi Clue - Tom Guarriello
Still prefer tumblr to medium - clive boulton
Don't leave any ice picks around, Keith. - Doc
Keith Teare: Venture Trotskyist - Kevin Marks
Did you get approval on piece before Medium published it? - christina sponselli
Keith is way left - Tina Chase Gillmor
when Keith says "can I pick your brain", watch out - Kevin Marks
It's always a question of size ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Heyo! Trotsky jokes, amirite? - david weinberger
Trotsky was "picked" he never did the "picking" :-) - Keith Teare
+1 for Kevin's Venture trotskyite - david weinberger
Oh crap, we're all gonna die - Tina Chase Gillmor
Fuck those yellow spores! Hooyah! - david weinberger
I told you: Hunger Games!!! - Tom Guarriello
Medium too trendy already. Used to be cool ... - Laura Norvig
If I bring a smile to Doc's lips ikt's all been worthwhile - david weinberger
Doc's right. It keeps moving - Francine Hardaway
Medium: nobody goes there anymore...it's too crowded - Tom Guarriello
I agree with Doc, and I'm hopeful, but in human society there are always those looking to profit from manipulating the system. - Darius Dunlap
It's not about apps. It's about open vs. closed. - david weinberger
And individual vs. copllaborative - david weinberger
And consume vs create - david weinberger
An app world that did that would be fine - david weinberger
It's closed that doesn't survive. THat's why the companies fall - Francine Hardaway
I thought Medium is how you deal with site-deaths. - Todd Hoff
I want an app that eats itself and leaves crumbs on my screen. - Doc
My favorite apps are all about that, David. And they are mostly on Mac and iOS. - Darius Dunlap
Apps are a red herring that the New Clues raise -- but it's a herring that stands fsor an important school o fish - david weinberger
are there apps that are open that aren't just glorified web interfaces ...? - Laura Norvig
Yep, David. - Darius Dunlap
Back we go to notifications - Francine Hardaway
+ 1 Keith. iOS back-fitted to OS X and swallows apps (or makes apps available on desktop) - clive boulton
Yeah, Dudes. What about notifications? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Clue 125: Notifications are Conversations - Doc
"Companies make a religion of security, but this is largely a giant red herring. Do you know how tough it is to worship a giant red herring?" - Gluetrain - Kevin Marks
Cool addition, Doc - Tom Guarriello
it's being managed by Scarlett Johansen. duh. - Laura Norvig
Clue 126: No, wait, conversations are notifications. - david weinberger
The Gluetrain was fun. We need him back for New Clues. - Doc
Steve has enterprise instincts. - clive boulton
"Markets are money." - Gluetrain (I think) - Doc
Actually, David, that's traditionally more true - Francine Hardaway
+1 Gluetrain. We need New Glues - david weinberger
Tina, I have to drop off at 2.35 - Keith Teare
Keith, you've got 10 minutes - Francine Hardaway
Gluetrain is excellent! - Tom Guarriello
Steve it's 2:23.... We're probably at 1:18 of actual show - Tina Chase Gillmor
Glad David is expanding on this... "App" as a proxy for something bigger - Darius Dunlap
Kevin's train of thought, snowballs for open source enterprise apps - clive boulton
Are we ahead? - Francine Hardaway
Have a great weekend all! - J.C. Bouvier
Good point, Francine. I think so. The clues are in the apps... - clive boulton
Next time, David, we talk Heidegger! - Tom Guarriello
Clue #127: Are you the armadillo or are you the bike? - david weinberger
Clue 128: What?? - david weinberger
you just daleked out for me - Kevin Marks
What happened to the housekeeping? - Francine Hardaway
Name this show: Venture Trotskyist's - clive boulton
Can you still hear us? - david weinberger
nope, feed is dead - Darius Dunlap
great show.......hanging on every word.......thanks Doc and Dave, and Keith, Steve, and Kevin....great conversations - Dale Lature
+1 "Can you still hear us? - clive boulton
the backchannel lives. - Doc
I really think GG should have an "AfterDark", at least for the live listeners. ;-) - Darius Dunlap
Unfortunately, I've got to run. Ciao, all! - Darius Dunlap
There's usually a brief check-in with the faces on the show before turning it off. That went fast this time. - Doc
Sorry I joined thischat so late. - david weinberger
Okay, I need to disassemble this rig on a drawer and move the laptop. Been great, everybody. - Doc
But thanks for it. - david weinberger
Apparently I have to clean up my office. - david weinberger
So long. - david weinberger
bye chaps - Kevin Marks
bye - Doc
rönin
Refund of the Day: Kirin Beer Drinkers Get Cash Back After Label Confusion – The Daily What - http://thedailywh.at/2015...
Refund of the Day: Kirin Beer Drinkers Get Cash Back After Label Confusion – The Daily What
"Here’s the easiest 50 bucks you will ever make. If you drank a Kirin beer between October 25, 2009 and December 17, 2014 Anheuser-Busch is going to pay you for some misleading information on its label. Two Miami residents sued the beer maker back in 2013 because they thought Kirin was imported from Japan. Spoiler Alert: It’s not." - rönin from Bookmarklet
I knew Kirin wasn't from Japan, but off the top off my head, I can remember at least 16 bottles in that span, and about 5 6-packs. Hmmm... - Anika
I need to read the labels more carefully while I'm getting drunk. =) - rönin
Jandy
And now she's studying up on Billy Wilder. She's gonna be smarter than me, soon. http://t.co/kGLuGfGIJF
And now she's studying up on Billy Wilder. She's gonna be smarter than me, soon. http://t.co/kGLuGfGIJF
joey
Okay, to start: I have some cookbooks that I'd be happy to ship if anyone would like them.
And: http://www.amazon.com/Martha-..., in perfect condition and quite lovely and splendid, photographs throughout (but it's a bit heavy) - joey
They were much-appreciated wedding gifts but now we can't eat anything delicious ;) and I had to cull my shelf so I don't want them to be unloved! - joey
Martha Stewart book is claimed! - joey
Louis Gray
louisgray.com: If You Took a Photo, You're Sharing it, Right? - http://blog.louisgray.com/2014...
louisgray.com: If You Took a Photo, You're Sharing it, Right?
louisgray.com: If You Took a Photo, You're Sharing it, Right?
"As technology advances forward, the way we share changes. We've moved from slide carousels of vacations and Walgreen's photo labs to online photo book replicas, and in-stream editing. We're not backing up our photos to CDs and DVDs, and I don't see a future where I'll hand my kids a microscopic Flash drive upon graduation. They'll just know. Any photo that's ever been taken that I want them to have will be available - and I shouldn't have to do anything." - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet
Great post, Louis. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Thanks, Stephen! - Louis Gray
With all the work that's gone into surfacing good content, it's sad that this is still true: "Or worse, we'll just delete the ones that make us look bad, and post the entire glob of photos as a collection - a digital slide show that hopes our friends will care enough to find their favorite, and leave us a comment, Like or +1 in return to give a head nod of agreement." - Bruce Lewis
I share my photos on FriendFeed. Will FF be around for my grandkids to see it? - Amit Patel
Eventually all this data will be encoded into our DNA so the life history of each person is handed down to future generations that way it always has. Genotype is separated from phenotype which is separated from datatype. - Todd Hoff
Eventually we'll share photos by exchanging DNA through saliva, with "horizontal gene transfer" - Amit Patel
@Amit I cannot comment on current or future Google[x] projects. - Louis Gray
That would require a virus Amit. And wouldn't that be terrorism :) - Todd Hoff
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