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Iain Baker
Awwwww, damn. This place. just.............THIS PLACE. Y'know?
anyone needs me, i'm *next door*....https://www.facebook.com/iainbak... - Iain Baker
Yes, we know :( - Pea Bukowski from Flucso
Yes. Yes. - laura x
Totally. Also: http://ff.im/1kTKAv - Meg VMeg
Stephen Mack
How to export your friendfeed stream (posts and comments) by Claudio Cicali - http://claudio.cicali.name/post...
How to export your friendfeed stream (posts and comments) by Claudio Cicali
Via Micah (http://friendfeed.com/micahwi...) and Rod (http://friendfeed.com/rodfath...). Requires either Unix/Linux or a Mac, PHP, and the ability to edit the script. Fast connection recommended. Claudio's github repository is here: https://github.com/claudio... - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
I will take your word on this since I have neither linux or a Mac. - Friar Will
I ran this after work today, and it worked perfectly for my feed. Took about 30 minutes to complete. - Stephen Mack
Friar, it may be possible for Windows users. Or, I could actually run this for you and archive your feed. - Stephen Mack
Tinfoil, yes, but only before he deletes them. - Stephen Mack
My archived feed is here: http://www.zeigen.com/ff/ - Stephen Mack
Some stats: - Stephen Mack
From February 23, 2007 to today, I have made 2,580 posts (including imported posts from my blogs, Twitter, Amazon wishlist, YouTube favorites, Flickr, Google reader shares, Gmail status, Facebook post imports, and Yelp reviews, as well as native posts, bookmarklet posts, buddyfeed posts, and FFHound posts, but excluding DMs, and group/room posts). That's 1.3 posts a day, a bit more than my goal of averaging about 1 post a day. - Stephen Mack
I have posted 1,974 images, or almost exactly 1 per day. - Stephen Mack
The earliest imported item (beginning of my feed) is this from February 23, 2007: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... - Stephen Mack
The first item I posted natively was this one on January 10, 2008: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... -- just me commenting on it. - Stephen Mack
The first item to get a comment from someone other than me was this one on January 11, 2008, garnering a comment from Kevin Fox: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... - Stephen Mack
The first item to get a like was also the first item that got any kind of discussion, this iPhone speed dial hack that Kevin and I worked on together from January 26, 2008: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... - Stephen Mack
The first time I used the bookmarklet was May 6, 2008: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... (but the image no longer exists). - Stephen Mack
I got it working by using XAMPP http://www.andreabeggi.net/2011.... It stopped at 1/15/2011 for me. I think there's a post or page limit. It stopped after fetching 100 pages or around 10,000 posts. It didn't actually stop, it kept trying to fetch page 101 over and over. - Rodfather
Rod, I see. (And if you translate that link that Rod posted, Will, it has instructions for Windows users.) Mine finished -- for me the total number of pages was fewer than 100, so maybe that's the limit of either the FF retrieve API or the script (or both). - Stephen Mack
Stephen, I think your post with the first like (also has comments) is actually this one: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... (January 26, 2008) - Micah
It's probably the API. In the script, by default, there's no limit on the number of pages it will retrieve. - Rodfather
My run today stopped at 99 pages. - Micah
Sorry to hear that Micah. (And isn't the one from January 11 before that one from January 26?) - Stephen Mack
It's hard to figure how much is missing, because the API orders the posts by update too not just create date. - Micah
Good point. - Stephen Mack
In browsing through memory lane: 2007 was all imported stuff. 2008 I was mostly talking to myself and the people on FF whom I knew before joining FF, and in 2009 I began having more serious interactions with other people. It's fun to see the first like from people like Micah or Louis or Akiva or Derrick or Josh or Anika or Spidra or Johnny or [you]. - Stephen Mack
Early on in 2008, someone very popular here (but I don't remember who) posted the instructions of how to search for your most popular posts, and said to look for posts that had at least 20 comments and 20 likes: Enter "from:[yourusername] comments:20 likes:20" in the search box. E.g., for me it's http://friendfeed.com/search... -- but I had no posts... more... - Stephen Mack
It's fun to figure out the stats, thanks, Stephen. :) - Micah
No no, thank YOU, Micah -- I'd been meaning to get a backup of my FF posts for a long time and I couldn't have done it without you and Claudio. - Stephen Mack
Now I'm wondering about the ethics of me hosting this. Now there's a single gigantic web page with all of the comments that you've ever made on any of my posts. If you go to http://www.zeigen.com/ff/ and expand all the comments using the link at the top, then search for your name, you can see things dating back up to four years in one place. Certainly my feed is public, and in theory... more... - Stephen Mack
I haven't run Cluadio's and it's possible that his has more stuff than the publicly available one. I have versions of mine that have images and comments. Here's a hosted one, that I've removed comments, for legality reasons, and images to speed up loading & memory for your own posts. Takes about 5 minutes to fetch 10,000 items. http://hiphs.com/ff/ffexp.html Mine doesn't save the file, you have to let it finish and then use your browser to save the file, so that there is no issue of accidental discovery. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy from fftogo
API is limited to 10,000 posts. Mine stops in Feb. 2011. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy from fftogo
OK, so that explains why Micah and Rod and others were having problems with Claudio's script stopping at page 100. And presumably there's no workaround to get to the older posts? - Stephen Mack
There is a workaround, but due to latency on it's highly likely to cause data-loss. If you wipe out 100 items in your 10k, you can go back 100 items further. Unfortunately, the latency I was seeing for new posts coming in, and then replacing them. I believe that doing this caused some trashing as the latency became quite high. I actually had issues with timing at one point where the... more... - OCoG of FF, Jimminy from fftogo
Here is info on that attempt. http://friendfeed.com/e... - OCoG of FF, Jimminy from fftogo
So Jimminy, you viewed the archiving of other people's contents as a potential legal issue with your script? (I've now moved my archive to a private location; doesn't feel right to keep it exposed to all.) - Stephen Mack
It's against TOS, to do so without their knowledge and permission. Of course, you retain all rights to your own content, which is where it becomes a bit more nebulous. If they post, in a manner that extends, among your original content, does that provide you with the right to share. Obviously, by the way the service does it, the answer is yes, (e.g. If a user, James, is private and... more... - OCoG of FF, Jimminy from fftogo
Bump for relevance. In case FF ever goes away but doesn't come back, you can snag a copy of (most/some) of your posts. - Stephen Mack
I could never get it to work. :/ - holly #ravingfangirl from iPhone
I have written this program with Java. It can download all your feeds including the images, music, and other attached files - http://friendfeed.com/persian... - ؛ patrick
*holds breath* - Dennis Jernberg
Will the 10K post API limit (I think that's what it is) mean my oldest posts will be unretrievable? - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew, if you have more than 10k posts, yes. Unless you want to start deleting posts. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Fooey. - Andrew C (✔)
Tinfoil: It's working for me. Perhaps you tried to access a private feed? - Stephen Mack
Yeah, remote key is generally better than OAuth, when dealing with private feeds. I know I had to hack a work-around into FFTopTen, to hold the keys, between the page and the request functions called by AJAX. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Bump. This is what I've been using to archive. Please wait a few days before archiving so we don't overload the FF servers. - Stephen Mack
For those who don't use php (like me), you can download the windows version (zip file) from here - http://php.net/downloads.php | then extract it to a directory (e.g. c:\app\php) | next rename php.ini-development to php.ini | next open php.ini in notepad and add this to the end of the file: extension=ext/php_curl.dll | now open a DOS command prompt and type: cd c:\app\php | now you should be able to run: php | follow the instructions in the link mentioned in this post - ؛ patrick
Stephen Mack
Where to find me online outside of FF in order of my expected frequency of usage:
My neglected WordPress blog, which I will probably make my main priority for posting henceforth: http://www.zeigen.com/blog/ - Stephen Mack
Hehe. He said, Ello. - SAM
Yeah, Ello could be cool. They seem to be a bit full of themselves, and it's feature-poor currently, but the biggest problem it has (lack of users) could be solved if we all migrate over there. - Stephen Mack
Ken Sheppardson
OMG FRIENDFEED IS STILL HERE?!?
Yes. - Johnny from iPhone
No, they shut it down 6 months ago.... - Joe
we are ghosts. - Big Joe Silenced
These are not the droids you're looking for. - Spidra Webster
It's a shadow of its former self. - Akiva
As is everything. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Tis true. - Akiva
*waves and whistles innocently* - Laura Norvig
It's working fine in this universe. - Technodad
The universe that is 3.78 billionths of a meter to the left of you? Not that one. - Joe
*thinks of a vacuum cleaner and telekinetically resets server again* - Big Joe Silenced
hey guys, who's that? - Meg VMeg
First time here in months...years? And I see Ken's post on Best of Day. Which was pretty much my thought as well. <waves to everyone> - Hutch Carpenter
Hi, Hutch! :) - Anne Bouey
Joe: No, the other one. The one where he stepped on that butterfly back in '11. - Technodad
Meg, Ken is a bona fide technorati in my book. He even worked at TWiT for awhile. - Laura Norvig
What's FriendFeed? - Steven Perez
:))) - afraal
Shoot. I jinxed it. Sorry :-( http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Ken Sheppardson
Spidra Webster
Happy birthday to one of Friendfeed's most supportive and caring members! Happy birthday, joey!
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Happy birthday! - John (bird whisperer)
Happy birthday, Joey! <3 <3 <3 - Jennifer Dittrich
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! - Stephen Mack
Dangit, I forgot to cc: her on this! - Spidra Webster
awww, cute pic. :) Happy Birthday, joey! May you get some extra goodness this year! - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Happy birthday, Joey! - Andrew C (✔) from Android
Happy Birthday! - Greg GuitarBuster
Happy Birthday Joey - Me
Happy birthday! :) - Big Joe Silenced
Happy birthday Joey! - Corinne L
Happy Birthday! - Heather
Yay superwoman continue to be a great human being in the years to come. - Steve C, Team Marina
Happy Birthday, Joey. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Happy birthday darlin <3 <3 - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Happy Joey Day!!! - Friar Will
Happy Birthday, Joey!! - Kristin
Happy birthday! - LB needs a break. from Android
Oh, thank you so much, everyone! - joey
Happy Birthday, joey!! - Brent Schaus
Happy Birthday, joey - MoTO Boychick Devil
Happy Birthday! - Katy S
Happy birthday! - Jed
Happy Birthday, joey! - Micah from FFHound!
Happy birthday, joey! Hope you're having a good one :)) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Happy birthday, joeybean! - Jenny H. from Android
Thank you <3 - joey
Happy Birthday Joey - Mo Kargas
Jim #teamFFrank
The other day, one of the first grade teachers came up the hall in laughter induced tears. She handed me a poem about the color blue that one of her students had written. Here is the poem: Blue is my favorite color because it is the color of the sky, and of the ocean, and the color of my friend's shirt.
Only, the young poet had left the 'r' out of 'shirt.' - Jim #teamFFrank
LOL! - Jenny H. from Android
*bumpity* - LB needs a break. from Android
I say the shit was gold, not blue. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
blue glitter. problem solved. - Kevin Johnson
Stephen Mack
Hello from Lake Tahoe
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With my friend Kyrie and her twins. All four kids had their first snowboarding lessons and did very well. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Stephen f*ing adorable Mack and family!!! <3 - Laura Norvig
Helloe! - Brent Schaus from iPhone
Sarah G.
RT @philonedtech: Skeuomorphism gone too far http://t.co/bZqS7ncAYe
RT @philonedtech: Skeuomorphism gone too far http://t.co/bZqS7ncAYe
Do you know how hard it is not to make a thumb joke? Do you? - sglassme
Pull my finger? - John (bird whisperer)
Brent Schaus
My meat thermometer (not a double-entendre)
It's been making ALL the difference with any meat that I cook: burgers, steaks, chops. I'm actually feeling confident enough to try it out with larger portions: roasts and such. It's totally a difference-maker. I had no idea. - Brent Schaus
They are the best! - Katy S
Can I suggest a probe thermometer for roasts? Instant-read is great, but a probe thermometer means you don't have to open the oven door, lose heat, etc. - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew: for sure! Didn't know that was a thing. Thanks :) - Brent Schaus from iPhone
My probe thermometer completely changed my experience with roasts. - Katy S
The Other Yvonne
I MAY have bought a huge LEGO set for the boys today. It really felt like a guilt purchase since they didn't put much money of their own towards it, but I wanted it, too. =)
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I may be adding to the Lego guilt for your kids today! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Uncle Stephen!!! It's ok. They look happy. =) - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
I always want Legos. I was very sad when I stopped getting them at Christmas. Which is to say, after college. - laura x from iPhone
Laura, I think toddler x should add some to his bday and Xmas lists this year. ;-) - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 02.27.15 LIVE recording at 1pmPT/4pmET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Hello GG friends and fans! Happy Friday to you all! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Here - Keith Teare
GG - messing with my productivity weekly! - Laura Norvig
Laura - That should be our show slogan! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Friday at 1pm like rushing home to watch Crackerjack at 5pm https://www.youtube.com/watch... - clive boulton
Its Friday, Its 5 O Clock, Its CrackerJack! - Keith Teare
"Oh Hai!" classic. - Simon Tennant
If you don't remember that gender, Steve... - Tom Guarriello
Keith's camera seems amazing - maybe the lighting or lack of lighting - Michael Roberts
keith is black and blue? - Kevin Marks
Is it gold and white or black and blue? No one will know... - John Taschek
Llama, Kevin, llama - Tom Guarriello
I agree, Michael. Noticed it last show, too. - Tom Guarriello
Pre Barcelona. New Moto E LTE $149.99 value! http://www.motorola.com/us... - clive boulton
S6 $1000? - clive boulton
Keith is than apple camera? or something you purchased? curious what it is. - Michael Roberts
#whiteandgold - cc @kevinmarks ;) - J.C. Bouvier
its a Sony A7s DSLR - Keith Teare
4k into Skype via HDMI-USB bridge - Keith Teare
white and gold... but its really blue and black - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hangouts still supports XMPP - Google is just sunsetting the Windows Google Talk native client - Ankush Narula
The rig delivers a cool look, Keith. Good choice - Tom Guarriello
is there a link? - Kevin Marks
i missed the story - Kevin Marks
I missed a few weeks; glad to catch a show; @Keith... you change cameras? you look amazing ha (picutre quality) - Matthew Voshell
retweet the tweet above - Keith Teare
steve above search - Tina Chase Gillmor
RIP Spock - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Kevin - I'm mistaken - technically speaking Google Talk still support XMPP and connects with the Hangouts infrastructure - Ankush Narula
For sure, Tina. - Tom Guarriello
My work now we are fighting b/t age lines (50 and older) wont let go of native clients, under 50 are fine with browser based.. its WW1 style people hanging on for dear life; - Matthew Voshell
Sunsetting the native client is fine -- it works on the other platforms where people are actually doing the work - John Taschek
I have the hardest time understanding that. GTalk is now hangouts ... sort of. - Laura Norvig
@Laura.. i agree they havent done the best job branding that whole space; - Matthew Voshell
^^ here - Ankush Narula
Keith - how is an open standard "propriatary"? - Simon Tennant
I agree Laura and Matthew - not best branding. But google is moving toward more than just "talk" - theoretically taking more video in - John Taschek
@Tina, such a sad day. I should leave work early and hunker down for a weekend-long Star Trek TOS marathon. - Laura Norvig
@Tina.. get the guys to geek out even more with leonard nimoy stories? - Matthew Voshell
XMPP's feature is the X - extensibility. - Simon Tennant
and Federation. - Simon Tennant
HTTP doesn't federate. - Simon Tennant
Google making life unnecessarily hard for its ecosystem partners http://blog.kerika.com/google-... - clive boulton
But there's no question that Google is headed towards Hangouts and eliminating Talk/XMPP - enterprises using XMPP/Talk via Google Apps are the big holdout - Ankush Narula
@Keith... I use hangouts on desktop/mobile to talk with android people.. but i see people using whatsapp and viber for cross platform; - Matthew Voshell
http can federate if software enables it - Keith Teare
chat center is about to support domains - Keith Teare
will be fully federated - Keith Teare
but still centrally controlled? XMPP is more like email - no central ownership, just a gentlemen's agreement to exchange messages. - Simon Tennant
In app "sponsored posts" are so annoying.. verzion fios is doing the same thing but inserting paid movies in between channels; why dont they offer a paid version?? I'd pay for a twitter app not to have sponsored posts; and Apple tried iAd and look how non-successful that was... mobile advertising is hard.. just charge for your app and get it over with! - Matthew Voshell
Ben Thompson Peak Google post is worth a read http://stratechery.com/2014... - Tom Guarriello
We will use DNS host files to federate control too - Keith Teare
keith - interesting. Self-hostable? - Simon Tennant
Glass discontinued. Barges cancelled. Enterprise hard. Dart not Chromed. Node disliked. GTV backed away. - clive boulton
not initially, but eventually - Keith Teare
Google is doing alot for AndoirdOne? They are trying to own the delveoping world.. the next flow of users to sign up.. and most of them will have android phones... chromebooks are deploying to education like apple used to.. kids are going to grow up knowing google; its going to take awhile but its going to pay off in 10-15 years - Matthew Voshell
Not me. I was just trying to figure out that auction losers get $5 million thing... - Tom Guarriello
Will Apple buy .apk to compete? - Kevin Marks
I just spent time with teenagers at a technology academy, I asked them to tell me the top 2 apps they use, every single one said a messaging app... thats all they do with thier phones... message... - Matthew Voshell
or buy .apple - clive boulton
i believe that is .company - Matthew Voshell
the registrars are just trying to keep verisign in biz but releaseing new and more domains for people to just redirect to .com - Matthew Voshell
OT: @Keith, you streaming from an HDSLR? Looks good... - J.C. Bouvier
yes - Sony A7s - Keith Teare
@Keith.. that would be nice actually.. i use apppickr and product hunt got lots of funding.. what if google could search across app stores for the best apps for specific criteria - Matthew Voshell
@keith.. i have a D600.. can you post your setup? - Matthew Voshell
Steve is right. Search should become more and more voice activated (Alexa, Siri, Google, etc.).How do you return an audio ad? - Alex de Soto
you make the ad a result - Kevin Marks
also, audio search can give a visual result - Kevin Marks
@Dan... the google search app on iOS does this already.. it knows where my work is and sends a push notification to tell me how long itll take me and the best route.. when i wake up... i like it - Matthew Voshell
who purchased .foo - clive boulton
its just an HDMI to USB3 bridge - Keith Teare
My sense is voice force a federated standard no? - J.C. Bouvier
Googs search experience fairly stale since Marissa Mayer owned it. - clive boulton
it's walmart, and the other retailers that want to use thier own payment gateways... its VHS vs Beta all over again.. one will eventually win out - Matthew Voshell
disagree - a lot has changed - Kevin Marks
That does 4k - Keith Teare
mobile got alot better - Kevin Marks
knowledge graph is huge - Kevin Marks
RE: ISIL, destroying art is really crossing the line... - J.C. Bouvier
Google's search experience is stale? "OK Google", Now, Translate, Cards, etc - aren't these all Google Search products? - Ankush Narula
some good products as they get more contextual but the core search product of web search kind of sucks now (for researchers, librarians) - Laura Norvig
Search experience 'late June 2011'... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - clive boulton
Google+ is really just identity at this point - it's embedded across all of the Google properties. - Ankush Narula
which was the original goal - Kevin Marks
Except they've let the bots into G+ - clive boulton
Her. (personal search, personal assistant) - Laura Norvig
I'm not sure "social" matters in the same way it mattered 3-4 years ago. As Kevin/Keith said, Android gives Google plenty of metadata for their businesses and to establish a social/interest graph that includes sensor and (app) usage data. - Ankush Narula
It's Scarlett Johansson search...which ain't bad! - Tom Guarriello
G+ is a damn mess...Google needs to EOL the noise and lift the cream (Hangouts, Hangouts on Air, AutoAwesome and Ident) out of that mess ASAP...create a Facebook Group/Page exporter and free up those dev resources into Cards/Now and Docs... - J.C. Bouvier
make shit up. ;-) - Laura Norvig
"@levie To the Gmail engineer that worked on autocomplete machine learning and likely has shifted focus to self-driving cars, we need you back" https://twitter.com/levie... - clive boulton
GOP loses... - J.C. Bouvier
What about the new definition of Google Glass - the glass HQ - Josh Bradshaw
FCC voted party lines, but lost 3-2, ISP are going to classified as public utilities.. which allows for more regulations, - Matthew Voshell
They can also throttle companies that dont pay... making it hard for smaller comapnies to break out - Matthew Voshell
Oh is that right Matthew? I missed that...tx for clarifying. - J.C. Bouvier
Larry and Sergey have their focus off-focus. - clive boulton
Assuming Netflix/YouTube/etc are paying for the peering interconnections, who's paying to upgrade the capacity of ISP backbones? - Ankush Narula
#HouseofCards will eat your weekend. - J.C. Bouvier
it already is in the UK, a lot more than here - Kevin Marks
Better 1934 than 1984 - christina sponselli
jon oliver's expliantion does wonders www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpbOEoRrHyU - Matthew Voshell
@John don't worry about competing in a global economy - Comcast and Verizon will buy the competition - Ankush Narula
@Matthew, tx, will check it. - J.C. Bouvier
I'm on ATT grandfathered unlimted service... i get throttled to the point of unusability when i go over 3GB a month - Matthew Voshell
Matthew - are you allowed to tether with that plan? - Ankush Narula
Millennials avoiding ATT / Verizon, pay off college debt, using T-Mo / Sprint with wifi. - clive boulton
@Keith... I can see your skin pores.... i have to copy your setup - Matthew Voshell
:-) - Keith Teare
In this setup, Keith, you look a lot more like Sir Alex! ;) - Tom Guarriello
@Keith - still paying TiVo a monthly fee? - Ankush Narula
no bought the lifetime plan - Keith Teare
Tom - Minus the accent - Keith Teare
Well...minus that Northern accent... - Tom Guarriello
House of Cards season 3? - Ankush Narula
Wolf Hall - Kevin Marks
Fortitude | Extended Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch... - clive boulton
Hear that's really good, Keith - Tom Guarriello
Hole? - Ankush Narula
Wullffall - Tom Guarriello
Wolf Hall - Kevin Marks
Hawl - Ankush Narula
Worf Haul - Kevin Marks
Yah, looks nice. - J.C. Bouvier
@Alex - of course we have to wait :-( - Ankush Narula
April 5th on PBS - Alex de Soto
next week, sony going broke? - Matthew Voshell
Yes, steve, for $2500 - Tom Guarriello
Wolf Haulin' Oats - Jerome Hughes
+1 Jerome - Tom Guarriello
Vauxhall? ;) - J.C. Bouvier
@Steve, it all looks good, but the HDSRL is nice... - J.C. Bouvier
Ha ha ha. - J.C. Bouvier
Why Ustream and not YouTube Live? - Ankush Narula
'Tricaster' for cheapskates https://docs.google.com/documen... - clive boulton
@Steve @Tina.. why not post the shows on a youtube page? recorded of course - Matthew Voshell
Ha ha - J.C. Bouvier
podcast - Josh Bradshaw
Congrats to Salesforce, guys. Great job growing a powerhouse - Tom Guarriello
SHOW IDEA: lead tracking tech moves from desktop to mobile...? - J.C. Bouvier
Great episode name - Ankush Narula
Wool Fole - Ankush Narula
Will Fall - Kevin Marks
3 Men and a Baby was a fun movie - Tom Guarriello
Nerd Alert! - Matthew Voshell
LLAP all - good show - Ankush Narula
Indicates Goog's search experience is on the move https://news.cs.washington.edu/2015... - clive boulton
Stephen Mack
Emotional Design Fail: Divorcing My Nest Thermostat [Nielsen Norman Group] - http://www.nngroup.com/article...
Emotional Design Fail: Divorcing My Nest Thermostat [Nielsen Norman Group]
Article from Feb 22, 2015 by Kara Pernice: "Summary: Don Norman’s 3 levels of emotional design (visceral, behavioral, and reflective) helped me understand how my pure love for the Nest thermostat morphed into abhorrence. I was a proud early adopter of the unique, cool, and pretty device. It helped me save energy, and communicated to me. But things went bad when it let me down emotionally." - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
More: "[...] When I turned the dial to increase the heat to 66 degrees, rather than responding by making the house warmer, or by informing me that it is now working toward this, it read, "in 1 hour and 20 minutes 66 degrees until 10:00PM.” The next day the house temperature plummeted to a punishing 50 degrees (I realize I may be spoiled) for no reason I was privy to. Here, by the way, is another usability heuristic not heeded: visibility of system status. Try as I might, it won’t listen." - Stephen Mack
She details how with her Nest, she can't actually set the temperature. I'm not a Nest owner, but that's shocking to me. Really? It won't let you actually switch on the heat or the A/C? It thinks it knows better than you what the temperature should be? - Stephen Mack
(Hidden motive: Part of why I'm posting this is because Cristo hates Jakob Nielsen so much that I'm hoping this will irk him into reactivating his FF account just to berate the user design model being leveraged here.) - Stephen Mack
I never had any trouble setting my Nest to the temperature I wanted, reliably -- barring when my furnace actually broke. Every once in a while, it would take a small change in habits a bit too far, but it was trivial to go in and readjust the schedule. You can also turn that function off, and set it all manually. My only beef with them right now is that when I got my new furnace (almost... more... - Jennifer Dittrich
I never had a problem with mine. - Glen Campbell
Haven't read through the entire article yet but I have two and have had no issues changing temps. - rønin
So this writer is divorcing for all the wrong reasons. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Pretty much. It's like she never even bothered to read the simple documentation, much less the more complicated. When it says "in 1 hour and 3 minutes" it is telling you how long it is likely to take for your house to reach that temperature. It visually indicates (by showing red, blue, or white) in the meter whether the furnace/ac is currently active, or passive (the picture shown is the AC, in an active state.) - Jennifer Dittrich
@Stephen you can set the temperature with your Nest. (Of course) - Louis Gray
holly #ravingfangirl
RT @emrgencykittens: It's a kitten hairband! http://t.co/dxBjgM6RZk
RT @emrgencykittens: It's a kitten hairband! http://t.co/dxBjgM6RZk
kitten hairband just makes me want to watch the viking kittens - holly #ravingfangirl
Kitten hairband = Faster Pussycat - Zamms
obviously! :D - holly #ravingfangirl
or Cats in Boots #soobscure - holly #ravingfangirl
Mahdi
Seven Layer Salad with Creamy Salsa Vinaigrette - SoupAddict.com - http://soupaddict.com/2014...
Seven Layer Salad with Creamy Salsa Vinaigrette - SoupAddict.com
Seven Layer Salad with Creamy Salsa Vinaigrette - SoupAddict.com
Seven Layer Salad with Creamy Salsa Vinaigrette - SoupAddict.com
چه سالاذ رنگارنگ جذابی - ترانه لایف
مخصوصا اون درسینگش :) - Mahdi
وای سالاد وای عشق من . سالاد باشه سوپ باشه غذا نباشه. اصن غذا چیه. همینا کافیه. سوپ هم نمیخوایم. سالاد سالاد ×: - MaryaM
این سالاد رو سعی کنید یاد بگیرید و درست کنید. عالیه - Mahdi
بذارید ببینم دقیقا چیا توش هست - MaryaM
دیدم به به . من هر چی سبزیجات داشته باشم تو سالاد میریزم. آووکادو هم چند روز پیش خریدم ولی متاسفانه سیاه شده بودن و خراب بودن دیگه ریختمشون بیرون. این ترکیب خیلی خوشمزه س . قارچ و اینجور چیزا هم من میریزم تو سالاد. حتی گاهی شلغم. کلا خوشمزه س - MaryaM
لبو و کلم قمری هم توصیه میشود :) سالاد تبوله رو هم امتحان کن. خیلی خوبه. قبلا دستورش رو اینجا گذاشتم - Mahdi
به به - پریشاهدخت
لبو که فصلش باشه پایه ثابت ماست و سالادامونه . کلم قمری اما فقط دمپختشو دوست دارم :)) نخوردم اینطوری. / تبوله رو هم حتما امتحان میکنم. اتفاقا دیدمش دستورشو مرسی - MaryaM
من وقتی این غذاها رو درست میکنم روانم هم سیر میشه - Sima
نوش جان سیما جان. سالاد از بهترین گزینه های غذایی هست. - Mahdi
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live Friday 02.20.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Here - Keith Teare
Hi. We are rebooting something. Stand by - Tina Chase Gillmor
We are all always rebooting something... - Tom Guarriello
Just like Detroit - Keith Teare
+1 there, Keith - Tom Guarriello
It looks like the show is aborted today due to Comcast "fixing" our line just before show time. It's not back up and not looking good. So sorry. Beyond our control. Man, is Steve mad! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Did you count to 60 after turning the modem off :) - Simon Benvenutto
I'm just a few blocks away from Comcast headquarters. I could go and pie someone there. ;) - Alex de Soto
Ugh... - Tom Guarriello
Tina, it happens to all of us... - Simon Benvenutto
Time for an adult beverage, Tina... - Tom Guarriello
Until next time. - Alex de Soto
We're back up - Tina Chase Gillmor
Anyone still around? - Tina Chase Gillmor
we are going to start in five minutes - Tina Chase Gillmor
We ar ON! - Keith Teare
Maybe one of you can get a tweet out, encourage the chat again. - Simon Benvenutto
someone help with a tweet - Tina Chase Gillmor
Will do - Tom Guarriello
Done a Tweet - Keith Teare
keith can you call on newsgangone - Tina Chase Gillmor
Comcast proving again the case for hybrid SaaS-Cloud in the enterprise (kills the consumer dead) - clive boulton
hello earth from spaceprob.es - Kevin Marks
We're back! - clive boulton
Yay! - Ian Waring
Frigid North is right. We're way up to 14.5 here in Princeton - Tom Guarriello
headphones? - Kevin Marks
I love Digg Deeper - Francine Hardaway
I also use it as my primary stream. - Francine Hardaway
Do you digg it deeply? - Frank Paynter
Haha Frank - Francine Hardaway
But then I get the same items from Medium, Flipboard. - Francine Hardaway
Use Slack a lot here - Ian Waring
I'm getting triple copies of most notifications, from all the different curation tools I use - Francine Hardaway
G+ HOA has icon to adjust bandwidth (less picture / more sound). May be skype / tricaster adjuster. - clive boulton
digg deeper should subtract links I've tweeted or faved - Kevin Marks
IFTTT rebranded as IF, right? - Tom Guarriello
Sounds like John and Steve have colds. Thanks for fighting thru. - clive boulton
"the T is silent" "which one?" "all of them" - Kevin Marks
It's like the iOS app Workflow - Tom Guarriello
Kevin that's quite funny - Francine Hardaway
Never sure if I need to renew my Yo Tweetstorm subscription every time it fires - or not - Ian Waring
Keith should always use this camera location/angle - Tom Guarriello
Stays silent for weeks... - Ian Waring
ou mean we don't have enough attention span to deal with a piece of software anymore? - Francine Hardaway
I've taken YO off my phone for the fourth time. Scoble keeps urging me to put it back on, but then it doesn't prove useful. Other apps do what it does - Francine Hardaway
my dog has a squeaky toy - Kevin Marks
muting - Kevin Marks
Kevin ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Single purpose Apps are really miniaturized narrow focus Windows apps. KISS to avoid confusion - clive boulton
Fido anyone? - Ian Waring
Its a 4k Sony A7s - Keith Teare
I'm drowning in individual apps, too - Francine Hardaway
+10 Francine - Tom Guarriello
Am I really going to download 3 "Do" apps and an "If"? - Francine Hardaway
what is that monitor in back of John B? - Tina Chase Gillmor
is it that "art on the wall" startup? - Kevin Marks
Next layer above iOS ~ second skin systems [mirror worlds] - clive boulton
not that different for me tbh - Kevin Marks
Using Outlook on my 6+ as my default email - links nicely with Dropbox etc - Ian Waring
I'm using HomeScreen - Francine Hardaway
Francine - I can always count on you to keep up. That's why you're part of G3! - Tina Chase Gillmor
How many users are there of HomeScreen? - Francine Hardaway
Excel nice too - Ian Waring
Thanks Tina. - Francine Hardaway
the calendar date and clock icons are dynamic, but probably a closed API - Simon Benvenutto
HomeScreen priceless analytics for incubator investments - clive boulton
If there are enough users who report their screens repeaatedly Clive - Francine Hardaway
Apple clock does that as well - Roger Shepherd
Tina, this is why we should use Slack for G3 - Francine Hardaway
Good point Francine - clive boulton
We have Jenkins piped into Slack - Ian Waring
I don't yet get Slack - clive boulton
As well as their Slackbot - Ian Waring
btw if there are any local peeps listening today (to the SF Bay Area) - I will be getting use of Scott Jordan's ( ScotteVest) PocketMan car early next week. If anyone wants a spin in it... let me know - Tina Chase Gillmor
Conversational VAX Notes - Ian Waring
slack is the IRC+ wiki model that engs already sue, made workable for normals - Kevin Marks
Shoot. am I posting as Steve or Tina? - Tina Chase Gillmor
As Tina, Tina - Tom Guarriello
Virtual watercoolers - Ian Waring
yeah. it's me tina. - Tina Chase Gillmor
But that's good Kevin. Workable for normals is good. - Francine Hardaway
You mean do they use it at WalMart? - Francine Hardaway
Salesforce customers are "true enterprise" - Tom Guarriello
We're using it at a 50 head startup - Ian Waring
It is a very good podcast. - Simon Benvenutto
Name this show: Xing blood brain barrier c/o Steve - clive boulton
But shouldn't you start by scratching your own itch? - Francine Hardaway
a16z definitely worthwhile - Tom Guarriello
I like listening to a16z. - Francine Hardaway
Yammer was internal Twitter - Francine Hardaway
That's the way I brought Yammer into clients, Francine - Tom Guarriello
In many ways the model Stewart describes is a ChatOps type model, its not so much the tool as using the channels as the glue that pulls the company together. - Simon Benvenutto
Track!!! - Tom Guarriello
track <3 - Tina Chase Gillmor
Slack integration handy for enterprise - clive boulton
you type /bug @kteare blah blah - Kevin Marks
I can't believe Steve is able to do the show today. He's got a crappy cold - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, you're doing a great job producing the show - Tom Guarriello
Nuzzel. I really like Nuzzel. Easier to read than Digg Deeper. But I read them both - Francine Hardaway
Nuzzel said I followed too many people - Kevin Marks
I do Nuzzle but not Digg Deeper yet. - Tom Guarriello
Since when do apps pass judgment on you Kevin - Francine Hardaway
all the time -have you tried ThinkUp - Kevin Marks
ThinkUp exists to pass judgment.. It tells me how many times a week I've said "shit" - Francine Hardaway
That's funny, Kevin/Francine. ThinkUp is trying to make sense of your words and punctuation marks. And your Twitter profile changes, of course. - Tom Guarriello
what is the name? - Kevin Marks
chatrate? - Kevin Marks
chatgrape? - Keith Teare
web actions is what we call it now http://indiewebcamp.com/webacti... - Kevin Marks
chatgrep? - Kevin Marks
Hi all - late today but loving the topic right now. - Laura Norvig
Does Slack have a free version for any enterprise? (or maybe for Nonprofits ...?) - Laura Norvig
yes, Slack is freemium - Kevin Marks
can't find "chat *" - clive boulton
Slack is free unless you need paid features - Keith Teare
you can set it up free, and you pay for extra users, extra integrations - Kevin Marks
Thx, Keith! - Laura Norvig
Laura - take a look at it. It does quite a lot without getting into paid versions - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Tina, would love to. Just getting our folks used to Chatter, though, don't know if they would get why we would add Slack. But I'll ask our super IT gal if we can test it out. - Laura Norvig
Simon - mucho thanko - clive boulton
I love continuity! I haven't been here live for months (hi everybody) and I can schloop right into the notifications discussion. Didn't miss a beat. - Amyloo
RIP Glitch. Stewart's previous venture. - christina sponselli
Amylou or stuck in a groove - Francine Hardaway
Amyloo - We've been here constantly :-) - Keith Teare
Just got distracted by Daring Fireball's piece on the prices of various Apple watch bands. Holy shit - Francine Hardaway
Francine - Beautiful or expensive? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Not being a watch person, I can't see paying so much. $20k Tina - Francine Hardaway
That was was an interesting analysis, right Francine? - Tom Guarriello
you can get response interactions on your watch - Kevin Marks
Every press piece I read raises the price:-) - Francine Hardaway
And Dave Winer thinks Heartbeat will be the killer app. - Francine Hardaway
bajeeeez - Tina Chase Gillmor
launcher apps are pretty big on android - Kevin Marks
But really lack of heartbeat is the killer app - Francine Hardaway
Cyanogen Mod - Francine Hardaway
this is a very good article on notifications https://medium.com/@ai... - Kevin Marks
@keith -- Yes, here all the time -- and you guys were way ahead of the game. - Amyloo
I get pretty good notifications off my Pebble watch. - Francine Hardaway
Sounds like an Apple Watch scenario - Tom Guarriello
The problem is that an individual app sends notifications but so do 50 others. - Francine Hardaway
We need bots to manage all these notifications - Tom Guarriello
Twitter may turn out losers in Slacks apps climb. Talking in communities better UX than notifications from all. - clive boulton
just signed our team up for Slack! - Laura Norvig
Notifications are basically dumb at source: they are the apps interpretation of what I want !? Notifications need good filters, you guys have discussed before, and the filters must be contextual e.g.: I'm hungry :) - Simon Benvenutto
That video was great, Keith - Tom Guarriello
Foursquare is good at that - Kevin Marks
Steve - I hope your cold gets better.... - Roger Shepherd
Our little effort at diversity. - Francine Hardaway
Feel better all! - Alex de Soto
if you look closely you can see the person throwing the cat - Kevin Marks
I'm embarrassed that I'm not following G3. I'm a jerk! - Tom Guarriello
Thanks for the show! - christina sponselli
Let's use Slack for this. - Francine Hardaway
Tom, a misogynist - Francine Hardaway
Great show guys, you were missed last week, thanks for the effort in spite of the comms issues !!!!! - Simon Benvenutto
I'm afraid I could be charged with that on the basis of this data, Francine, but it is totally untrue!!! - Tom Guarriello
Name this show. Slack talk. - clive boulton
laura x
ten years in libraries http://wp.me/pR3eo-cb
ten years in libraries http://wp.me/pR3eo-cb
BLAKE I UPDATED MY WORDPRESS. - laura x
I always enjoy your writing Laura with an x. I will finish this when I get home later. I was wondering what you think inclines you towards the Episcopalians? - MoTO Boychick Devil
Scripture, tradition, and reason. Gotta love a church where reason is one of the three main pillars. But mostly I suppose I love the liturgy, in part because it's lovely and in part because it is familiar. - laura x
Stephen Mack
FriendFeed Bookmarklet Hosting: Micah W.'s ffbookmarklet v1.03 "Woot Tube" Release -- draggable version - http://www.zeigen.com/ff/
FriendFeed Bookmarklet Hosting: Micah W.'s ffbookmarklet v1.03 "Woot Tube" Release --  draggable version
Having trouble with the FF Bookmarklet in Chrome or other browsers? This is an updated version thanks to Micah and sizofroid. To make it easier to install, I'm now hosting it at my site, so you don't have to jump through hoops, you can just drag the updated version to your bookmark bar. - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
Yay! [update: uh, I don't see the actual bookmarklet on that page] - lris
Hmm, what browser are you using, Iris? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Chrome, Mac. Here's what I see http://screencast.com/t... - lris
Well that's weird. Chrome on Windows is working for me. When you go to the FF tools page, is the button there visible for you? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yes it is - lris
Iris, have you disabled JavaScript by chance? I had a coworker test with Chrome on his Mac and it was working for him. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
No. And I did have adblocker running but I disabled it for that site. - lris
I love you. - Melly
I love you too, Melly! - Stephen Mack
Iris, hold on, gonna try something to fix it. - Stephen Mack
I'm running Chrome on Windows if that helps, FYI. - Melly
Iris, I changed how the image for the button was hosted. Did that fix it for you? - Stephen Mack
Yay! I see it! - lris
Yay! Hmm, you must have some pretty high levels of security set. All I changed was copying the image for the button from FF's server to mine. - Stephen Mack
I am not aware of extra high levels of security. Maybe I'm accidentally extremely careful. :) - lris
I'm sure it's no accident. :) - Stephen Mack
Hopefully no one else is having any trouble? - Stephen Mack
I added the older versions at the bottom, just in case there are any compatibility issues. - Stephen Mack
When I saw "draggable" I first thought it meant the popup can be dragged around within the page, to make it easier to select images that it would ordinarily be covering up...like this old one: http://pastebin.ca/1323845 I am still using that one, but installed as a dedicated CustomButton. If you have the Firefox add-on installed, it's easy to install the button from here: http://appsapps.info/ff... What I would like to have is a combo of all the goodies into one awesome button. - April Russo (FForever!)
April, that's a cool idea. I couldn't get the one you linked to work for me, though. I wonder if we can beg Micah to add that functionality into his version. - Stephen Mack
I just did. ;) - April Russo (FForever!)
Ah! I don't know about CustomButton, though. What is taht? - Stephen Mack
Which one could you not get to work? The 1st or 2nd link? The 1st is instructions for modifying the official bookmarklet to use the drag & drop popup. The 2nd link requires the CustomButtons add-on installed in Firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US... You'd just click the link on my page to install the button, then right click a Firefox toolbar, go to... more... - April Russo (FForever!)
2nd link. But I see what you mean, it requires the add-on. Does it work on Chrome or IE, or just Firefox? - Stephen Mack
Compatibility: Mozilla Firefox 1.5+ SeaMonkey 2.0+ Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0+ Mozilla Sunbird 0.8-0.9 / Calendar 1.0pre KompoZer 0.8b1-0.8b3 Flock 0.7-1.5+ and Pale Moon (which is what I am using) - April Russo (FForever!)
Bump due to recent discussion. Micah, it'd be great to incorporate that feature from April's. Heard that at least one user is having trouble with the new bookmarklet. How's it working for others? (Works great for me! My default browser is Chrome.) - Stephen Mack
Working with Chrome, I'd say it works about 95% of the time really well. There are a couple sites where it just doesn't want to pull in the images, and sometimes the NY Times is tweaky, but both seem related to recent layout changes. - Jennifer Dittrich
Mine still doesn't work. I wonder if one of my plugins is breaking it. I've taken to browsing in Chrome and copying the URL over to IE when I want to post something to FF. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
It doesn't work for me: in Firefox (my default browser) it just brings up an empty box. As DB said, it might be a conflict with an extension, but I'm not sure which would be causing it. - John (bird whisperer)
First off, thank you for this work. I'll test it out in a bit. I have a lot of browsers to test in, and I use XMARKS so it should just pop to all my different browsers. - Eric - Final Countdown
Bump for Janet. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
please add this one on "firefox social" https://activations.cdn.mozilla.net/en-US... - orfe
Hero! - Antonio
doesn't work for me anymore, since the last couple of days. - Lucretia, my reflection ൠ
Hmm, working for me. Anyone else having trouble? Lucretia, does it not work at all? Which browser? - Stephen Mack
I'm having trouble with it on Chrome. same time period and I couldn't get to the site anymore to delete/reinstall it. - Sir Shuping is just sir
Oops, my host is down. Stand by! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
sure. thank you :) - Lucretia, my reflection ൠ
It's fixed now. So sorry for the problem. My host had shut me off for non-payment! (Because my credit card on file had expired.) Seems like they shut me off pretty quick, but they had tried to bill me last year and failed and then gave up but didn't bother notifying me about the problem until this year when they tried to bill me for both years. - Stephen Mack
yay! (this just reminded me that I also have a hosting to be paid, so double thanks!) - Lucretia, my reflection ൠ
It lives! - Micah from FFHound!
works for me now! yay! - Sir Shuping is just sir
It doesn't seem to be able to handle https web pages (with Windows 7 and the latest version of Firefox) -- is there a fix? - Sean McBride
Stephen Mack
Roy G. Biv was here.
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rainbow after the rain? - Andrew Chunis
And/or during, yeah. :) - Stephen Mack
that's a proper rainbow, any gold? - Halil
that,s nice - samiraa1
Starmama
Talenti was on sale so I finally tried it. Yummy, but the packaging is disconcerting. Every time I open the freezer my brain is all, "why is a jar of hair grease in here!"
But I must say, a screw top is the best thing ever for me because I only eat ice cream a couple spoonfuls at a time and it's nice to have a lid that doesn't get warped n loose. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
I keep wanting to save the containers. They're so attractive and I think "Well, I know it's freezer-safe." - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I'm thinking about repurposing it, the jar could be used for just about anything. Except I'm currently in "NO NEW THINGS, EVERYTHING OUT" mode, so it'll prolly go in the recycling bin when I'm done. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
m9m,I think they're super attractive too! :) I didn't know Talenti made bars as well, so when I saw them in the store, I was way too excited. Tried these http://goo.gl/FpkPyt And of course, they're absolutely delicious, but at $7 a box for THREE, it will definitely be a special occasion dessert. - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Lord I didn't need to know those existed! - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
^So. damn. good. - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Love Talenti gelato! I have saved a few containers, as they are the perfect size for taking a generous portion of homemade salsa to a friend. No need to ask for the container back! - Corinne L
You had me at "hair grease" - MoTO Boychick Devil
It looks exactly like those old school jars of bergamot, etc, grease. Or the curl activator gel I used to use in Jayden's hair. I thought posting about it here would stop that nanosecond of WTF when I open the freezer. Nope. Brain still doing it. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Amit Patel
Morro Bay
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This was the view from the hotel room. :) - Amit Patel
holly #ravingfangirl
YES PLEASE RT @shelnew19: !!!!!!! / ~Fried Mozzarella Corn Fritters! http://po.st/ztrZ8L via @Po_st
YES PLEASE RT @shelnew19: !!!!!!! / ~Fried Mozzarella Corn Fritters! http://po.st/ztrZ8L via @Po_st
Marie
50 Shades of Grey Literature #AddAWordRuinAMovie
I dunno, I'd watch the hell outta that... - RepoRat
me too - jambina
we are such nerds. - jambina
yeah, we are nerds, aren't we. :) - Marie
Leo Laporte
Twitter Acquires Niche: Tech News Today 1195 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Catherine Pellegrino
Sending you a password in clear text via email is for amateurs. The Indiana State Library sends you your password on a POSTCARD.
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Bless their hearts. - ellbeecee
wooooooooooow. woooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. wow. - RepoRat
holy st. omg. - Christina Pikas
Wow. - bentley
That's rather horrifically amazing. - Kirsten
BUT THEY HID IT WITH THE STICKY NOTE! - Joe
Joe wins - DJF from Android
The least they could have done was ROT-13 it... - Peter Murray
Christina made me LOL. To be fair, the worst thing that could happen should this password fall into nefarious hands is that someone might get unauthorized access to a suite of public-library oriented databases mostly from Gale and EBSCO. But still, it's the principle of the thing, right? - Catherine Pellegrino
I suppose it would be harder to datamine passwords that are printed on postcards than passwords sent in emails.... but yeah. - laura x
Oh woolpigs....let me ask my sister if she knows about this. She works there. - Hedgehog
"woolpigs" - Aaron the Librarian
if they're holy woolpigs, watch out ;) - RepoRat
Once again, my home state embarrasses me. - Katy S
Yep, same here. Since the State Library is on Twitter, I tweeted this yesterday (https://twitter.com/cpelleg...), but haven't heard back from them. Their Twitter stream seems to be basically one-way communication, though -- and the governor is cutting $2 million from their budget, so I imagine they're kind of focused on that right now. - Catherine Pellegrino
The proposed cuts are catastrophic. I'm pretty sure everyone's in panic/survival mode right now. - Katy S from iPhone
Y'all, I just got a phone call from a guy at the State Library. Short explanation: this kind of thing only happens when someone very close to a state border (like, say, me) has an IP address that doesn't immediately authenticate as "within the state of Indiana." And of course, the postcard saves them $$ over sending it in an envelope -- needless to say, that $$ is probably much better... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
I don't think you should feel bad. Nobody should send out passwords on a postcard, full stop. I understand resources are tight, but this was poor judgement. - kaijsa
Also, a postcard costs more than an email. - lris
Oh, I forgot to mention why the postal mail: they have to ensure that it's going to an actual postal address in Indiana, because licensing agreements. So, email won't work. Should have mentioned that from the get-go. - Catherine Pellegrino
that's both horrifying and awesome. great example of vendors requiring crap security. may I borrow it for my NASIG talk? - RepoRat
Of course you may borrow it, but I'll point out that the vendor isn't requiring crap security: the vendor is requiring that the State Library confirm that the user has a postal address in Indiana. - Catherine Pellegrino
ah, so the password-in-the-clear doesn't actually need to be part of this scheme? - RepoRat
Based on what the person I spoke with said, no the vendors are in no way requiring the password be sent in the clear. They're (legitimately) requiring that the person using the password be a resident of the state of Indiana. The State Library uses postal mail to confirm Indiana residence, and uses a postcard -- as opposed to a letter-in-an-envelope -- to save money. - Catherine Pellegrino
Got it. So it's the use of the password on the postcard that's completely hornswoggling, and the library's to correct. (Spitballing because app dev is not my thing, but if I ruled the State Library, postcard would say "log into your library account and enter the following PIN:". So an attacker would have to both intercept the postcard AND hack the account to do something evil.) - RepoRat
Yeah, there are definitely other ways they could do this, especially since when you sign up for an account, you get a 'temporary' password immediately, which is then followed up by the 'permanent' password-by-postal mail. But again: appdev costs money. And, also, Indiana is modeling their system after other states, so it's not just us in this particular handbasket. - Catherine Pellegrino
oh, I totally believe that, no question. - RepoRat
Amit Patel
Hmmm, GRLD has a market cap of $92M. It's just an unprofitable grilled cheese food truck, no?
Maybe several food trucks. - Amit Patel
LMAO, I just went to see if you were being serious and found this quote in an article about them, “Our business strategy is to lose money on every sale but make up for it in volume.” - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
I'm investing in MCNC, which is a chain of 153 Mac'n'Cheese trucks located in the Southwest. Currently their business model is to play their horn music so loudly that business owners pay them to park their trucks elsewhere. - Stephen Mack
Crazy world we live in. - Amit Patel
Mine was just a joke. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yeah, that's what they said about Gillette having FIVE blades. "Just a joke" And look what happened! ;) - Amit Patel
True! And that Onion piece remains the greatest thing they've ever written: http://www.theonion.com/article... - Stephen Mack
Mahdi
Rainbow Smoothie Sampler - Teaspoon of Spice - http://teaspooncomm.com/teaspoo...
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Rainbow Smoothie - Mahdi
It is great to have a fruity dinner. Tonight my dinner was a persimmon and an orange :-) - Mahdi
OMG - وارَش
قلبت درد گفت وارش؟ :دی - Mahdi
اصلا قابل وصف نیست :دی - وارَش
پس به صورت شعر بگو که دلنشین تر هم باشه :) - Mahdi
شاعر نیستم ولی شعر دوست دارم :دی - وارَش
وااای چه رنگولی - ترانه لایف
آی ام هانگری ،گاد بلس می - امیدم from Android
Keep calm and eat a smoothie :)) - Mahdi
Marie
I bought myself flowers on the way home because I made it through the whole work day.
I've done that occasionally. - ellbeecee
Me
Me
Dead Drops | Un-cloud your files in cement! 'Dead Drops’ is an anonymous, offline, peer to peer file-sharing network in public space. - https://deaddrops.com/
Dead Drops | Un-cloud your files in cement! 'Dead Drops’ is an anonymous, offline, peer to peer file-sharing network in public space.
"‘Dead Drops’ is an anonymous, offline, peer to peer file-sharing network in public space. USB flash drives are embedded into walls, buildings and curbs accessible to anybody in public space. Everyone is invited to drop or find files on a dead drop. Plug your laptop to a wall, house or pole to share your favorite files and data. Each dead drop is installed empty except a readme.txt file explaining the project. ‘Dead Drops’ is open to participation. If you want to install a dead drop in your city/neighborhood follow the ‘how to’ instructions and submit the location and pictures. I  am a Berlin based media artist and started  the ‘Dead Drops’ project during my stay in NYC at EYEBEAM as artist in residence, October 2010. Dead Drops was part of the show “Talk to Me” at the MoMA  July-Nov 2011." - Me from Bookmarklet
Have any television shows used these Dead Drops as a plot point yet? - Corinne L
Law & Order SVU would have a child trafficking angle or something. - bentley
I could see Castle using one and dorking out over it. OOOH - "The Blacklist" could use them as part of the Fulcrum plot. - Corinne L
looks like a great way to infect the devices of idiots with exploits. srsly, this is the computing equivalent of unprotected gloryhole sex. EDIT: for the tender-eared innocent, a definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define... - Big Joe Silenced
Stephen Mack
#saturdayff (inspired by Holly's post about BattleBots returning) In 2001, some co-workers at TiVo built a robot for competition in BattleBots season 3 -- "Fast Forward." TiVo was a sponsor for the season, so a lot of us got free tickets to see the show. I spent a weekend on Treasure Island watching the robot fights. Glimpses of me appeared on TV. - http://battlebots.wikia.com/wiki...
#saturdayff (inspired by Holly's post about BattleBots returning) In 2001, some co-workers at TiVo built a robot for competition in BattleBots season 3 -- "Fast Forward." TiVo was a sponsor for the season, so a lot of us got free tickets to see the show. I spent a weekend on Treasure Island watching the robot fights. Glimpses of me appeared on TV.
They don't show the prelims, but there were several rounds without audience and cameras (and with the arena hazards disabled). Fast Forward qualified in the prelims, then beat its early round competitor ("The Annihilator") to advance to a quarterfinal match that they told us would be on the air. But we lost in quarterfinals to a bot named "Twin Paradox" (which then lost in the semifinals). As it turned out, that quarterfinal match with TiVo's bot was never aired. - Stephen Mack
I can remember the face of the engineer who did most of the work, but not his name. He put a ton of hours into it, and had several of our hardware team members help him out. He had other sponsors as well. - Stephen Mack
Watching the matches live on Treasure Island was fun. I remember a few things about it now (crazy that it's nearly 14 years later): - Stephen Mack
1. I wanted to get Carmen Electra's autograph, but they must have taped her interviews very early or very late, because I never saw her around. - Stephen Mack
2. They had a massive hangar next door to the arena where you could see the builders work on their bots, and drive them around in roped off areas. They didn't let anyone who wasn't a builder enter, though, because of the bots being weaponized. - Stephen Mack
3. The announcers aren't there at all. Their commentary is added after the fact, not live. - Stephen Mack
4. All the bits where you see the audience rooting for a particular robot, or holding banners -- those are all staged. Production assistants would walk around during the downtime and ask for volunteers to wave banners that were pre-made, or cheer for certain bots. - Stephen Mack
5. The downtime between fights was really long -- usually 2 hours. - Stephen Mack
6. The fights themselves, though, were the real deal. None of the ones that I watched were staged in any way, or redone, or seemed to be decided in advance. - Stephen Mack
7. The builders were very chill, signing autographs and answering questions during the downtime. (2001 was before I had kids, but I invited along some kids of my friends who were interested. They loved it.) - Stephen Mack
Before one match, they had the 49ers cheerleaders show up and do a routine and give away t-shirts. - Stephen Mack
I think we ended up going back on two different weekends (or maybe later we had tickets to season 4 in November, which was also taped on Treasure Island). I'd catch glimpses of myself and the friends I took with me in the background of the matches sometimes. I swear this is me standing up and turning with my back to the camera in the lower left of the screen at 1:04 in https://www.youtube.com/watch... (but you never see my face in this clip). - Stephen Mack
Sean McBride
DARPA robot can learn tasks from Youtube video and a neural net can understand video 20 times faster than a human http://zite.to/1D3u3KY
DARPA robot can learn tasks from Youtube video and a neural net can understand video 20 times faster than a human http://zite.to/1D3u3KY
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