I will do my best to represent. It's just local, so we'll see what they ask.
- Jason Griffey
Can you sneak in a "Librarians are actually the best search engines" ? Please?
- Eric Sizemore
"Well, in the past, librarians were mostly nerdy people who were really concerned about esoteric things like making information accessible and boderline socialist stuff like free access to information, all the while exploring new technologies for doing that kind of thing. While today, on the other hand we...uh...OK, next question?" (Srsly, knock 'em dead. Do us proud. Say "Codslap" on the air.)
- bevedog
Click through to my blog post for more details. The upshot? PayPal donations to LSW.LFPL@gmail.com (or use the button on the blog post at See Also...) and I'll send every dollar we raise to the Louisville Free Public Library on Sept. 1. I challenge you to help me raise $5,000.
- bevedog
from Bookmarklet
I hate to tell you this, but I'm getting "error establishing a database connection" when I go to your blog post. Dude, we crashed Steve's server!
- Catherine Pellegrino
"Awesome!" and "Oh no!" are battling it out in my head.
- lris
Today is my favorite day of the week lately. On every other Thursday this summer, my library has a brown-bag discussion of technology and the New York Times has its cluster of tech articles that are vestiges of the once-standalone Circuits section. In the fall, we'll move our brown-bag meetings back to Fridays....
Is it reasonable to be offended that an online article, clearly not written on the fly, coming from the publisher of some of America's best-written/best-edited magazines, consistently uses "it's" for "its"? Or should I assume that all copyeditors and literate writers have been canned during the recession?
Hey FriendFeed team - any chance you can enable the streaming service on FriendFeed work with the iPhone-generated m4a voice memo files?: http://friendfeed.com/jessest...
Bwana, yeah, I've used Cinch and I think the phone posts are useful. However with the voice memo option on the iPhone it makes it so much easier, and more flexible.
- Jesse Stay
Sorry, was driving... Audioboo is a micro podcasting util. Audio only plus take a picture. Meant for use with iPhone pretty exclusively I think. http://audioboo.fm/ I used the free app and it works great. Set up RSS feed into FF and voila.
- Josh Haley
Josh, ah, sounds like another Cinch equivalent, although no iPhone app for Cinch.
- Jesse Stay
"Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment." - Ross Miller" - http://ff.im/4nZHu
- Tim Hoeck
or would that be www.whitehouse.gov -- dammit :(
- Stephanie Segel
Leadership means taking risks, calculated or otherwise, and being willing to either fail or succeed, but to learn in any case. For many, social media's risky--and that's exactly why you may find leaders here.
- dontgetcaught
"I'm going to do something I never do; give a direct order." Captain Hawkeye Pierce, M*A*S*H
- Dan: Bibrarian
A leader is someone who allows his people to do what they need to do, stay out of the way, protect them from interference and let them shine.
- SteVe C
Carlton: you're running the class!!!!!
- Robert Scoble
I haven't had this much fun in a class since I skipped history classes in high school....
- Stephanie Segel
Great idea for a thread but the best I could do would be post a reading list... Leadership is such a deep subject... Siddhartha, 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership, How to Win Friends and Influence People, Fierce Conversations... it could go on forever.
- SAM
I remember someone from Pixar did a great speech on Leadership for TED not long ago. I can't seem to find the link.
- DocileWalnut
Napoleon Hill wrote that these are the major attributes required to be a successful leader 1. UNWAVERING COURAGE 2. SELF-CONTROL 3. A KEEN SENSE OF JUSTICE 4. DEFINITENESS OF DECISION 5. DEFINITENESS OF PLANS 6. THE HABIT OF DOING MORE THAN PAID FOR 7. A PLEASING PERSONALITY 8. SYMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING 9. MASTERY OF DETAIL 10. WILLINGNESS TO ASSUME FULL RESPONSIBILITY 11. COOPERATION
- Dave Amphlett
Leadership: Don't fake it, people smell fear
- Dave Hodson
Leaders ask, listen, then decide...a lot like social media best practices. Maybe the technology's helping us catch up to where we should be. So let me ask: what do *you* think leadership is?
- dontgetcaught
Leadership: doing something no one else does...showing the way. Showing the possibilities. Paying attention. Engaging, reciprocal conversations.
- Sheryl
Today I read a tweet in Dutch which translates to: "Power is not a good reason to lead: a good leader creates leaders, not followers".
- Patrick Mackaaij
A different way to learn about leadership is to read Memoirs of Hadrian, a novel by French writer Marguerite Yourcenar about the life and death of Roman Emperor Hadrian. http://www.amazon.com/Memoirs...
- Paul Rodriguez
Define a leader with Google Search: Just type this in the search field: define:leader
- @LarsenTweet
Hello class: “A leader is one who knows the way, goes the way, and shows the way.” Ohh, and you should bare in mind - Popularity is not leadership.
- Nir Ben Yona
Henry Ford once said "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'A faster horse'." So try something dumb or unexpected at least once in a while.
- DocileWalnut
Learn from the mistakes of others, what you should not do as a leader - you cannot be partial to some, or have favorites, you cannot intimidate, you cannot lie
- Shakeel Mahate
I disagree with the "waffling" comment. A good leader continues to consider new points of view and isn't afraid to say, "I've reconsidered."
- Vincent Lowe
"A very generic concept of leadership is that of directly or indirectly influencing others, by means of authority, formal or informal, or by personal attributes, to act in accordance with one's intent or shared purpose" - same ref as my last
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Leadership: Having the best BS detector in the room. Even if the room is expanding and expanding... like this one...
- Mark Zip
"If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people. If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you." Issac Jaffe on SportsNight
- Andy Roth
If you aren't the lead sled dog, the scenery never changes!
- Jim Tierney
according to Carol Bartz of Yahoo, it involves "███████ drop-kicking people's █████ to ███████ Mars"
- Karim
"A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go, but ought to be." -Rosalynn Carter
- Leanno Software
oh I 4got to like this thought tapestry.. this is actuall open source cull point.. Scobles is da man !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Sorry, I'm not doing video, didn't have a video compatible ccomputer.
- Robert Scoble
Leadership is Michael Arrington whining about the lack of a decent tablet device. Then making his own, and making it look really fantastic.
- Carlton Prest
How does a company get Leaders in management positions? and why doesn't it happen more often?
- SteVe C
@Sasha it's more ... Leadership = seeking out and accepting Responsibility
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
To lead you have to fight the urge to run when things are scary. If they're scary, that's exactly what you need to do. You grow by trying new things. Complacency achieves nothing.
- Sheryl
Listen voraciously, speak cautiously, invest in others before asking for something in return, don't assume influence - build it, maintain vision, back it with understanding and knowledge, and continually focus on being the best most creative and humble person you can be. Then try to get others to do it all with you.
- SAM
at this 2:38am all I can say, what my teacher once told me, take the responsibilities and don't be afraid of them, help people by showing the right way of doing things
- Hameedullah Khan
In case we're in a techy mood, Steve Jobs once said that "“Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower.”
- Nir Ben Yona
When you scream, tell, me to do something be sure you tell me exactly what to do or you may find you get what you asked for. rough paraphrase of Neil Young (as heard on PBS earlier today)
- Angela E. Taylor
@Carlton , wth was that about leadership and Mike A ? thats Total BS !!
- Peter Dawson
management can be taught, leadership cannot.
- Sherri
Just read 'The Prince' leaders are defined by their victories; even companies its the same; once they win in a major market its hard to move to a new style of victory.
- James Watters
@Peter, the man wanted a decent tablet device. Instead of whining about it constantly, he decided to make his own. It's called initiative, and all good leaders have it.
- Carlton Prest
As a starting point I'd want my class to read and try to appreciate Machiavelli's "The Prince" within the context in which he lived: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Rick Bucich
Leadership comes from the dude with the biggest camera lens.
- Jason Pollock
A leader does not have to ask to be followed. A leader is one who people want to follow.
- Dilip Dand
@ Rick Bucich; The Prince is just about all you need to understand about leadership
- James Watters
Woodrow Wilson said: The ear of the leader must ring with the voices of the people. - In other words, in order to lead you must pay attention to those around you.
- Sheryl
leadership comes from people who take a chance when everyone else thinks they are crazy.. like the characters of my new feature film.. The Youngest Candidate, http://theyoungestcandidate.com
- Jason Pollock
best read of middle eastern leadership :)- Dubai Media Deputy CEO Najla Al-Awadhi: Empowering Others through Information
- Peter Dawson
The ability to move and direct people to a certain destination.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Leaders don't just post links or quotes
- James Watters
Leaders don't need social networks either, James...
- Ton Zijp
@ Peter Dawson; don't you think empowerment is slightly separate from leadership?
- James Watters
I believe everyone is a leader to some degree... it's not a definition but an innate part of being human and being involved in society. Like a sense of humor... everyone has one, even if you can't detect it from the jokes you're telling.
- SAM
@James, no its part of being a leader. empowering others !
- Peter Dawson
This exercise has proven a rare breed of leadership - realizing when those around can add incredible value and letting them take center stage. This is a very tough lesson for most leaders to master, but it's illustrated quite well here!
- Tom Parnell
Nicholas, Zuckerberg needs money to be a leader. ;-)
- Ton Zijp
Leaders don't waste time being critical of others. It's to their benefit to raise their groups morale, not pull it down.
- Sheryl
Robert, are the students commenting also btw?
- Sasha Kovaliov
@James, most leader empower their team and then get the hell out of way so the team can run the race. they (the leader) are there only to remove the hurdles.. most CEO are chief Hurdle removers !!
- Peter Dawson
A truly great Leader can lead with his mouth shut.
- Sheryl
I maintain that leadership is just the art of being followed; management is what comes after
- James Watters
Scoble, you mind if I sell this thread to Franklin Covey or John Maxwell?
- SAM
Nicholas: so Zuckerberg is not a leader yet, one could say.
- Ton Zijp
A leader gives credit when contributions are made, understanding that perceptions vary among the collective intelligence.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
We are here posting for Scoble because he was one of the first big victors in corporate blogging; case in point; we arent posting for a also ran; being followed stems from victories and conquests always has
- James Watters
@Scott, only if you give the $$$ to the SickKids foundation :)- LOL
- Peter Dawson
Interesting that so many people are posting "traits" of a leader - only one portion of leadership.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Michele, there were lots of leaders who didn't listen, but they still lead. They should've, but they didn't.
- Ton Zijp
@LPH - hey yeah traits are better, after all Hitler was a leader too !! let not forget that .. likewise Pol Pot, Stalin and a host of others.. there is the dark side of leadership too !
- Peter Dawson
Leadership is about being genuine, and enabling others to achieve their full potential with your guidance. It's the capability to deliver and achieve while compelling others to do so as well.
- Louis Gray
Nicholas: but maybe Zuckerberg is being lead too (not that I totally agree with what I'm saying myself, but I like questions ;-)).
- Ton Zijp
A genuine person without a victory will not be followed
- James Watters
Peter - yes - I was meaning traits is only one theory about leaders. Followers are just as important - as are circumstances - as are so many other factors.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Ton, you are correct. Bad leadership desires a thread of it's own.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Jeff: talking about leadership is talking in cliché's?
- Ton Zijp
don't be a turd. Bosses are normally turds. Leaders are people that lead first by doing and teach you how to do it the right way without being overbearing or conceded.
- Zach Scott
When wolves fight for pack leader they don't fight to the death or great injury; just till the moment they know who would win
- James Watters
It's worth noting (if it hasn't been already) that great leadership involves setbacks almost by necessity. It's how those loses are learned from and adapted that differentiate how well individuals move forward.
- Rick Bucich
Leadership is not about directing followers, rather it's about influence; acting in a way that others find useful, interesting and engaging.
- Marcia Conner
@ Marcia +1 distinguishing between influence and management; thank you!
- James Watters
The best leaders I've seen are wise enough to surround themselves with very smart people. Smarter than the leader in many cases.
- Kevin C. Tofel
If the students aren't interacting, this is like listening to 300 lecturers at once.
- Bruce Lewis
In a healthy environment motivation comes from within (not reward/punishment). We need people who think & act, not retrieve & salivate.
- Marcia Conner
Don't be afraid to make mistakes... or own up to them.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
[adjusts monocle] ja, ja, but reward & punishment in ein hierarchy is der basis of der Führerprinzip ("leader principle"). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... a TRUE LEADER demands ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE from those below him. you Amerikaners are so soft.... [swats riding crop into palm]
- Karim
Well, one thing you could teach is that geeks have a short attention span. Over half an hour and we move on....
- Sheryl
glad @marciamarcia pointed me to this. when I've led, I've followed 2 principles: 1) Shunryu Suzuki's principle of control: the best way to control a person is not to try to control, but to watch, and give them lots of space and 2) peer pressure. a person follows me as a leader because the group wants to and the person wants the acceptance of the group
- Lou Clark
Jeff, do the principles that effect good leadership change when you're doing it from the head of the pack as opposed to within?
- SAM
Kouzes & Posner are the best foundation ever. 5 practices - their pentathlon: inspire, challenge, model, encourage, enable. Can't beat 'em. www.theleadershipchallenge.com
- Dan Mulhern
What is the purpose of the class - why do you want to learn everything about leadership? Is it to improve the participants leadership skills or just to tickle their curiosity? If you really want your class to improve their abilities to lead, you need to put them in a position where they do lead. People learn from what they do. So go ahead and give each participant (or group of participants) a challenge: lead us out of this crisis!
- Olavur Ellefsen
Jeff: +1 you make a great point. A person does not have to be a top dog, so to speak, to be a leader. Leaders come in all shapes and sizes. (Statuses too)
- Sheryl
WOW. The class was blown away by seeing this happen in real time. THANK YOU!!!!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: How many in the class already use FF?
- Sheryl
are you looking to train a new leader or just come up with metrics for identification, Mr Scoble?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Robert: WOW! That's amazing! We can still teach those young whippersnappers a thing or two! WOOHOO! :)
- Sheryl
And was there somebody to film them being blown away? :-)
- Ton Zijp
What an amazing accumulation of thoughts and links to pursue. Thanks for mentioning it on Twitter.
- Violet Bliss Dietz
Never try to lead people. It doesn't work. Better off building and guiding a team. If you can organize a team that works well together, you'll spend less time trying to hold the team together and more of your energy guiding them and being productive. Treat every team member with respect. If you don't listen to them, they will not listen to you. Keep your ego and temper in check. It...
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- April Russo
Leader listens to everyone but when he/she speaks everyone listens.
- Ashish
Leadership & personal development often go together. I'm inspired by @BrianKlemmer & http://klemmer.com. Repetition & Experience are best ways to remember & learn. Leadership is a choice and an ongoing way of life.
- Courtney Engle
Leaders who inspire me have the knowledge: "If I can see further than anyone else, it is only because I am standing on the shoulders of giants" Newton, etc. do not pop up in blogs much, but it seems the game changers know exactly who to thank.
- E-Advocate Network
I'm not a blogger, nor do I participate much on blogs, but I like Disqus because of the "like"-system. The ability to like comments gives readers somewhat to do on your blog. That is, something easier than commenting themselves.
- Meryn Stol
Cory: TechCrunch's CrunchCam is a group/room on friendfeed and you can post to it and then there can be comment threads underneath each post... kind of cool that you get an extra level of threading by doing that, but that only works for a single page not a whole run of pages, each with their own set of comments.
- Chris Heath
This really comes down to 3rd party comment system vs native comment system. If you want the latter, you can supplement with BackType Connect if you like. Here's an e.g. of it running on WP comments (threaded): http://bit.ly/Jk9cY
- CG
To expand on what Shivanand and Daniel said, Disqus has a "Social media reactions" feature that pulls in comments from other sites, including FriendFeed. Example here: http://ourdoings.com/ourdoin...
- Bruce Lewis
I like Disqus, too; using it on my WordPress site. FB Connect and Twitter integration is nice, as are individual profiles.
- Guy LeCharles Gonzalez
I like Disqus+FriendFeed, but I'd say whatever you do Facebook Connect, Google Friend Connect, or some other system such that users don't have to create yet another account on your blog to comment/participate is a must. No way would I maintain my own user DB these days.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think that liking comments make individual blog pages somewhat nicer to be at. A bit of interaction, a bit of play. Certainly for visitors who are coming from FriendFeed.
- Meryn Stol
I think a custom thing is better cause only you know what needs your has
- Andy Gongea
I like Disqus, works well on every blog and brings in a large number of social network 'reactions' to your articles.
- Mathew Packer
Having tried them all, I'm liking plain Wordpress comments with Backtype connect. It's a clean, fast solution without all the javascript slowdowns.
- Bwana ☠
Thanks for all the feedback, this really helps. Looks like we're going with Disqus.
- Robert Scoble
I am using Disqus and I am satisfied. I guess all are good alternatives!
- Manos Matsakis
Disqus has been my favorite so far. I'm actually considering a custom engine I may write though - I'm thinking of something like Disqus in a frame on the left side, and real-time FriendFeed and maybe Facebook in a frame on the right below the post.
- Jesse Stay
If I find the time to do it each new post will auto-submit to FriendFeed/Facebook, and track the comments of that post on each site and auto-update real-time (or as close as possible)
- Jesse Stay
I really like Disqus. Simple, straight forward. Can't put my finger on it but when I see Diqus is an option i am much more likely to comment. That said, could be a reason to use another to keep me form commenting. :)
- Kevin Murray
Disqus is a good choice but beware their do follow username links. I get more spam than I would like - I would guess you'd get a good bit more because of that and their spam filtering needs some upgrading
- David Knight
Good point, David. I get a decent amount of spam via Disqus and my blog is orders of magnitude smaller than Robert's.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I have a gmail address, i get (almost) no spam (in my inbox)
- Chris Heath
im really enjoying intense debate.i love the voting system and tiered responses. also its super easy to link all your social profiles through.
- Jason Fleck
I have loved Intense Debate because of the super fast email moderation, but I also like BackType too. Haven't tried Disqus but I have heard some moving away from it.
- Brandon Cox
Robert, are you *finally* going to pay attention to issues of comment export and import *before* you adopt a new system? The main reason I no longer comment on your blog is because you've shown little compunction over dumping comments wholesale whenever you migrate to a new service.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Personally, I'm liking disqus right now. you can also combine it with friendfeed comments like @kylelacy is
- Colin Clark
As a commenter I really appreciate the Disqus system. I tend towards epic length comments, often worth reblogging. Disqus makes that very simple. I would like it even more if the FriendFeed was integrated both ways with the Disqus. The one thing I don't like about Disqus is the disjointed way that the comments are brought into FriendFeed. (each comment s a separate feed entry instead of...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Chris: can I add JS-Kit after going with Disqus?
- Robert Scoble
Chris: I don't care which one has the most mainstream users. I care which one has the most respect amongst friendfeed users.
- Robert Scoble
JS-Kit loads on the Cheezburger network, that doesn't necessarily equate to more active participants
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Robert. Disqus is the way to go! they have the best customer service I've ever seen. help@disqus.com try it for yourself. they're incredibly fast and very reliable.
- Adam Jackson
Backtype, non-third party, keeping main comment structure, pulls in comments directly on the page itself (as do others but a lot less messy) and easier to integrate. :-) My two cents!
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
@Robert JS-Kit connects you to more users via OpenID, Yahoo, Google Friend Connect, Twitter, Facebook and others coming. Some other things coming that we can discuss next week. U can switch from Disqus to JS-Kit after the fact, yes.
- Chris Saad
I second Chris Saad on JS-Kit. This is a pretty helpful thread as I was looking for feedback about what comments engine we use. thanks for posting this
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
Still using DISQUS, but find that it has a very awkward integration with WP. I can't seem to log on through the WP frame. Trying ID next.
- Bill Sanders
Chris Saad: Do you have any timeframe for a FF connect? This is my big interest as I grow my blog - 2 way integration between comments here and on the blog. Between that and the commenter's ability to have an archive (and reblog) or their own comments. (I guess I'm not big enough to worry about spam yet!)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert: don't count IntenseDebate out just yet. As part of Automattic we can offer tighter integrations with WordPress, Akismet, Gravatar, and PollDaddy (among other future projects). In addition to our FriendFeed, Twitter, and Facebook Connect (beta) integrations, we've also opened up our code for developers to create their own plugins. You can check out IntenseDebate in action here - http://tinyurl.com/aossrd - where we've got several of our plugins enabled. I'm happy to answer any questions.
- Michael
Michael: Can we see the beta integrations somewhere? Especially the FF integration...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
All blog comments should be posted on the friendfeed thread for that blog post and vice-versa. So all commenters on your blog should be authenticated on friendfeed (also can use Google, Facebook, Twitter authentification).
- Charbax
There is a wordpress plugin for Google FriendConnect to manage Open Social authenticated comments which I am experimenting with..
- Charbax
guruvan (Rob Nelson): Here's some info from our blog about our FF integration http://tinyurl.com/bfedb4. Facebook Connect is the only integration that's in beta and it's up and running on our blog as well. It will be out of beta in the coming weeks.
- Michael
Michael: so am I to understand from that blog entry, that the FriendFeed comments are one-way? i.e. Pulling comments from FF into the blog. What I would like to see is the commentary go both ways (I, of course don't know how feasible this really is ATM). It would be nice if all the comments in ID were associated with the original posting on FF. then the comments could come from either source, and the comment feed to FF would be all in one thread here. That said the whole system looks very cool.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I like Disqus, but doesn't generate ANY additional conversation on my blog and has downtime.
- Jason Nunnelley
guruvan (Rob Nelson): not yet, but that's the plan for the future. No ETA right now though. You can also pull your own IntenseDebate comment stream into FF. Thanks by the way for the kind words!
- Michael
Facebook and Disqus. I think Facebook is now becoming a must.
- Bill Romanos
Rob: I do like that. Tyler: yes like facebook connect but not tied to just one social media service.
- Tim Connors
Tim, if it's like Facebook Connect but just for FriendFeed, how is it not tied to just one soc. med. service? I'm assuming you just mean it as another way for people to post comments, rather than only having the imported FF comments to your blog serve as comments (as then all commentators would have to be registered on FF).
- Tyler Hayes
good question. i was thinking since FF allows users to plug in to many social nets, if the comment is made from within FF or from within a FF widget on Robert's blog, seems he gets maximum distribution... and maximum chance the conversation is mostly available in one thread. and future proofing for when goog/yahoo/msft launch their newsfeeds/streams. and if the links on twitter and facebook back to the conversation are to his blog vs FF, Robert gets lots of monetizable pageviews there.
- Tim Connors
I think the best way to go is to use a FriendFeed plugin through WordPress. This way, you can keep an accurate track of your site's visitors, since all of your comments will be made from the site itself or from FriendFeed.
- Thomas Ward
You already made your mind, but i'm going to cast my vote on disqus too. They do an amazing job, WP should come with it as default commenting system.
- Diego Sana
Disqus ... still getting better. Excellent spam filter. Turn key-integration .... plus another 'community'
- Charlie Anzman
I loves Intense Debate - Very helpful guys if you should encounter any Probs.
- Brent - Yes I am
I like Disqus for selfish reasons. My Disqus comments to your blog end up not only in your blog, but in my FriendFeed, making them easier to find and share. Wordpress comments stay in Wordpress and are harder to find outside of the original context - some people like that, but I don't.
- John E. Bredehoft
John E. Bredehoft: If you want to import your Wordpress comments as well, check out www.backtype.com -- we're a service you can add to your FF account
- CG
Disqus is my choice. I already enabled it on my blog. It would be easy for me to comment in your if you enable DISQUS!
- Krishnamoorthy
disqus, it's really great, i used it on my tumblr blog for a lot of time, i think i'll use that too on my blog, to replace intense debate
- Ivana
Both disqus and Intense Debate can be a bit frustrating from a user perspective, logging in was at times an extra step, then the posting delay caused me to post duplicate comments which is a time waster. Is there that much of an advantage to using either is them?
- Albert Maruggi
I log into disqus once per browser session, and post on all disqus powered blogs. how is that an extra step? it's less steps. further, if the blog owner sets up the facebook connect for the disqus, it's a single click login. and this is harder than typeing in my name address and web address how?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I am about to relaunch my blog and completing a comment migration to Disqus, but now realize that it was a trade-off. Comment security and centralized control versus a loss of some control and a weaker SPAM protection engine. Thanks for suggesting some other tools.
- Keith Barrett
I like Disqus but I think Backtype is doing a better job picking up on mentions distributed across the social Web.
- Paul Jacobson
Disqus seems to be most robust and the beset choice. It does have a performance impact though (but that is true for other commenting systems also). I would suggest to test loadtime behaviour with e.g. http://www.octagate.com/service... or with YSlow on a test system before adding to your production blog.
- Jeroen De Miranda
DIsqus +1 works nicely with friendfeed. And easy way of having overview over all your discussions across the web.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
now that's something! as much as I'm not a big fan of having twitter represent my identity, I'm definitely a fan of other people having that option to login here and on my blog ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Intense Debate works for me, but I've used the other engines, and they're fine too. comes down to personal taste. The few times I've had problems with ID, staff was very responsive via GetSatisfaction.
- .LAG liked that
LAG: That's the first (concrete) positive thing I've seen posted about Getsatisfaction. Thanks
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Are you still using WordPress? Is their built in commenting engine totally out of the question? I enjoy the new comment replies.
- James Poling
You should have said "Disqus here"! Ha. That's the service I dig.
- Michael Kaiser
guruvan: cool. I see the potential in GetSatisfaction. it's not perfect, but it makes a lot of sense. More social media companies should use it.
- .LAG liked that
Not looking at JS-Kit? Seriously, though, I'd just cover Google Friend Connect, FB Connect, and maybe Twitter. Between those, you'll have all of your bases covered. There's no point in choosing a walled garden unless it already has a critical mass of users.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Disqus and IntenseDebate nearly have all the same features. The one thing I know that Intense Debate doesn't have is Facebook Connect or Twitter sign-in abilities yet.
- Kevin Eklund
Tried Disqus and tossed it out ... I don't use my blog much, but find js-kit products are solid and do what's advertised .... Commenting with FF is solid and just plain works!
- David HC Soul
from BuddyFeed
Thanks for all these helpful thoughts. :-)
- Martin Seibert
Trend for 2010: intimacy parties where there's no Twitter, no Flickr, no blogging, no friendfeeding. I wanna do one in NYC next Thursday. Anyone else in?
I think you need another name for this kind of party. If you tell people that you are having an intimacy party, they are going to think you are a swinger or something.
- Andrew
Leo: if we made out we'd certainly test the system!
- Robert Scoble
I can just see the news headlines already: "The Future Is Now! Blogger extraordinaire Scoble rebrands 20th century regular 'party' as 'intimacy party'"
- Tyler Hayes
yeah, Robert, the branding on that is a little hinky. The first image I had of an "intimacy party" did not include twitter and friendfeed friends.
- Karoli
Karoli: yesterday I told a bunch of PR people that watching Twitter all day made me crave intimacy. They all thought I was talking about sex. I told them I wasn't talking about sexual intimacy. Watching 90,000 Twitterers makes me want to have a deep conversation about something.
- Robert Scoble
I would love to check out a party like this. I wonder if Dallas is ready for one.
- Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
from fftogo
i would be happy to attend - but how will i know where it is if we can't share the details online? carrier pigeon?
- Allen Stern
Eau contraire Robert, AOL popularized the term "a/s/l" - the ULTIMATE form of intimacy.
- Tyler Hayes
I blame Linda Stone for this. She invited me to one of her dinners. Eight people. No blogging. All hand selected. And she made sure we kept the conversation on something deep and intimate.
- Robert Scoble
LOL, I give it 20 minutes before you're all shaking, bored and call the whole thing off and run for your iPhones and Blackberry's and Netbooks! Especially after the only two 7 minute conversation bursts where no one can cite any facts without Google and everything mentioned screams fodder for a tweet or blog post or streaming video or live picture. :)
- Adam Turetzky
Tyler: I'm not talking about sexual intimacy.
- Robert Scoble
Adam: I don't agree. You should have seen the geeks after TechCrunch's StarTrek showing. First of all, it kept me off of friendfeed for two hours. Second of all, we enjoyed talking about it afterward.
- Robert Scoble
MVB: I'll be in New York Thursday. Eric: Qik, you mean? Nope, not allowed.
- Robert Scoble
Well then Robert, I look forward to the results and my hypotheses proved wrong. :)
- Adam Turetzky
I guess Leo is serious about making this an intimacy party...
- David van Sunder
from Nambu
David: I'd make out with Leo and I'm straight. Just don't tell my wife, OK? She gets jealous.
- Robert Scoble
Like the idea. Would appreciate learning more about someone than the minute slice they reveal on socnets. Especially since I've found it increasingly difficult to raise people using that antiquated device called the "phone." At least for voice. Seems like no one wants to have a conversation unless they can pause a few minutes to Google the best bons mots. (edit: I did not Google "bons mots.")
- Sue Radd
Christopher: friendfeed is the best place for setting these up, isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
If I was in NYC I'd be in, unfortunately I'm not.
- Andrew VanderVeen
Linda Stone's parties told me something else. We have to limit each table to four people. Any more guarantees a lack of intimacy and depth.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, sounds pretty much like a good old fashioned dinner party, David. I'm having one of those tomorrow. Everything that's old is new again I suppose...
- FFing Enigma
David: not really. I'm specifically going to invite people to sit at a specific table with three other specific people. That's what Linda Stone did and it created magic.
- Robert Scoble
Would definitely like to see how this goes. if only i were in NYC....good luck to all attending it...To the organizer(s): Please post pics of any party games u carry out...esp ones that involve drinking.
- Freddie Benjamin
Robert, that's a traditional dinner party, where everyone has assigned seating. Name cards if possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: a dinner party is EXACTLY what we're talking about. Except limited to four people and assigned seating and a rule of no recording/broadcasting what happens.
- Robert Scoble
Linda Stone does this at her house in Seattle and it creates magic.
- Robert Scoble
Clifford: other than in general terms. When I went to one of Linda Stone's dinners, for instance, I was sitting next to an author and a tech researcher and a politician. It's a conversation that I'll remember the rest of my life, but can't be shared.
- Robert Scoble
This is definitely a sign of the apocalypse.
- Paul
from twhirl
The fact that this is getting engagement tells me that my trend prediction has some fuel behind it.
- Robert Scoble
based on what you do Robert and what you and I think the rest of us are passionate about, lets hope this doesn't catch on except in the realm of some type of rich person underground fetish thing. LOL :) I'd much rather see us push for 100MB fiber for everyone and have a virtual dinner party via iChat or Skype without dropouts or latency problems and in HD. :)
- Adam Turetzky
from IM
Adam: the older I get the more I realize that the reason we have all this technology is so we can find other people we want to meet around the world. I remember in the 1980s when the Internet was first being understood that people would say "you'll never travel anymore." Oh, yeah? Why did I do 120,000 miles on United last year? High def Skype will just make you want to meet that person on the other side even more.
- Robert Scoble
Im in for that. Maybe not next Thursday. BUt isn't it like a tweet up?
- kenneth glenn
Kenneth: no. A Tweetup is chaotic and not intimate.
- Robert Scoble
Do you think it would be possible to replicate the level playing field on sees in social media? I gauge "interestingness" based on words alone. Not your job, not your status, not your level of education and not your dough.
- Sue Radd
Sue: the thing is, the more I get around the world, there is some correlation between education, status, dough, AND your words/interestingness. It's unfortunate in some cases, but true.
- Robert Scoble
Sue: on the other hand, just because you have education, status, dough, that doesn't mean you are interesting, just that out of 1,000 people it makes it more likely. I have found some interesting people without any of the three, but it's tougher, that's for sure.
- Robert Scoble
...but if someone doesn't Tweet, FF, or blog it, how do we know it ever happened? <wink>
- .LAG liked that
LAG: the disruption in the force! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I highly agree you don't need all three but the desire to learn and gain all those in some way is important. If you have all three, you tend to struggle outside the box. Maybe I'll unplug next Thursday in CT just to support the concept. Technology is a great tool but sometimes it's just noise and complicates things.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yet another type of party I won't be attending...LOL
- Rahsheen
Funny how this feels like such a strange concept these days.
- Mike Doeff
Scobleizer...i like it: Social Media Unplugged™... they used to call them "retreats" or "off-sites."
- .LAG liked that
That could work. Bogarts is a good bar that's right there. Or Mexican over on 3rd... The Sun office is right by there, so I have spent some time in that neighborhood :)
- Bob Sokol
from email
You, stay off of FriendFeed or Twitter for a night? Hell, I'll pay to see that! Count me in!
- Thomas Ward
+1 Thomas. Scoble wants to unplug? OMG. But seriously, I call that "time with my girlfriend", no need to develop a fancy name for it....
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Intimacy party? Sounds like a good old fashion dinner party is called for. I'll cook. Who's coming to dinner? I'll feed you. Kindly bring some wine.
- Arleen Boyd
Heh, ya, this isn't exactly a trend so much as "normal behavior engaged in by millions around the world for thousands of years".
- Jason Wehmhoener
Arleen, it's a bit of a "drive" to your house. Raincheck? :D
- Curtis (a) Jackson
+2 Jason & Arleen. Seems awkward to make up a new name for what has always been known as "a party" or "a dinner". Maybe something´s wrong with your social circles if you blog or tweet when you´re "partying" ?
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I agree, though 'intimacy parties' is a little risque of a name ;) But the need to find appropriate boundaries and to connect without tech is a clear need. When I did the 'soul tech' workshops, it hit a national nerve that within weeks got the workshops on the today show: http://www.sparksocialmedia.com/video...
- Leif Hansen
OK, I'm in, but if I see keys in a bowl, I'm leaving. ;)
- John Craft
I won't mind that but there will be lot of discussions about parties on twitter and friendfeed following the parties.
- Ashish
You mean like "actual" IN REAL LIFE social networking...blasphemy! I'll watch it on ScobleTV
- sofarsoShawn
Barry, that's not going to happen. I bet they all have an anxiety attacks if they thought their cellphones would off for more then an hour. Most people put their cellphones on vibrate in the movies the same will happen here.
- Paul
from twhirl
Wondering how the "no tech" dinner went last night. Did it happen and if so did everyone survive?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Found: the very interesting conversation I was looking for... now to figure out how to save this thread so I don't lose it...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
saw the movie last night, it was a good movie. haven't seen a start trek movie in long long time so this just came across as a good movie to me, nothing more nothing less.
- SteVe C
I've got the original series in my Netflix watch now queue. Need to watch more of these.
- Thomas Hawk
Jandy, my co-worker came in and I thought I was gonna have to buy him an ice cream the way he was crying and moaning. Get over it, already, it's a movie, not the Geneva Convention.
- Derrick
I get annoyed with bad remakes / reboots / sequels as much as the next guy, but a) Star Trek wasn't bad, and b) you're right, it's not like they destroyed all copies of the original. Actually, they used to do that decades ago. When they remade Gaslight in 1944, didn't they try to get rid of all the prints of the 1941 British version?
- Jandy
I'll leave the basil for you, Mattie, too much of it winds up tasting like licorice to me =P
- FFing Enigma
Mmm, it's coriander (cilantro) for me. Can't get enough!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
God yes. The more sauteed onion and garlic the better. *sigh* Now I want some steak.
- EricaJoy
If I could handle the chopping time it would take, I could eat a full dinner of sauteed onions and garlic. Throw in some mushrooms, a smidge of butter, and lots of cracked black pepper... NOM!
- FFing Enigma
I'd have to add some meat to that, Tina.
- MiniMage
In their appropriate cuisines, I agree on the cilantro, BBQ, and ginger everyone has mentioned. However, I can't make any thing without garlic and onion. Except candy.
- FFing Enigma
This post finally go made me see why the hell everyone goes on about cowbell. I really could have done without seeing Ferrell's belly, but it was slightly amusing. The funniest was the drummer.
- MiniMage
Thank you all *so* much! You're all so awesome!!!
- David Cook
from fftogo
This is nice to see...a great reminder that no matter how bad things get with the economy, etc., life indeed goes on. :) Congratulations and many blessings!
- Dawn
yay! thanks shawn. I am acronym-dumb today. but each time I hear one, I'm kind of honored that the writer thought I knew it.
- anna sauce
I wonder if FF snobbery is what made them pull the source icons, in order to minimize source discrimination, because it was making things insular. I wonder if they have data to see whether or not people have changed their habits with regards to liking/commenting on non-FF posts.
- Victor Ganata
And the funniest thing is I don't remember posting this. How did it happen? I'm just sitting here laughing out loud at the absurdity of it all.
- Kenley Neufeld