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- Jason Kintzler
I support a ban on text messaging while driving. I oppose it being done at the Federal Level. It is a state issue per the Constitution of the United States 10th Amendment.
- Jim Beall
I find it difficult to see how such common sense can be opposed in any way! It's as dangerous as drink driving - maybe even more so given the reach of mobile/cell phone ownership.
- GadgetGuy
How in the heck can you text while driving anyway? This strikes me as unnecessary over-regulation. I have no doubt that people have done it and even gotten into accidents because of it, but is it really such a common problem that we need specific legislation to prevent it?
- Otto
Otto: Seriously, at least half the cars I pass on the road in Texas are on the phone and a large percentage of those (that I see) are not talking but texting. Texting means neither your mind nor your eyes are on the road. Neither are ideal for safe roads.
- 1x29
OneGear: Your evidence is wholly anecdotal. "I saw it, so it happens". The problem is that your evidence is subject to this thing we call "selection bias". You say "at least half". Really? I mean, think about what you're saying here. You're saying that at any given moment, fully 50% of the drivers in Texas are using cell phones. Is that really true, or is that just because you remember the ones you see using phones and don't remember the ones you see not using phones?
- Otto
I say that for a law to be passed banning the practice, we need unbiased statistics proving that it's enough of a problem to actually institute penalties, fines, and other laws surrounding the practice. Otherwise we're just adding to the bureaucracy for no reason. Do we have actual real statistical information on how many auto accidents there are caused by people texting? Note that I'm...
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- Otto
Otto: I come from the UK where it is illegal to text or be on your phone talking (unless via hands free) so I'm used to far, far less phone usage while driving. Maybe this makes the usage in Texas all the more noticable for me. For sure my statistics are not scientific - did you really think they were? but in my daily commute I never fail to see a fair proportion of the cars driving in...
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- 1x29
Let's draw a comparison with wearing seatbelts - for which there is a law. Personally, as a fellow road user and father of two, I'd rather you go about your driving day without you're belt on than texting while driving. There have been some horrific accidents in the UK of drivers ploughing into the back of other [often static] traffic because they have been texting. I'm not sure we need...
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- 1x29
I personally have no problem with people talking on the phone while driving. That is an example of a law that I think should not exist. Ditto seat belt laws. But I just don't see enough texting to think that it's really an issue. This is why I want statistical data before I can support it. And yes, I think we *do* need statistics to merit it, because one or two incidents are...
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- Otto
Also, the whole "one is enough" mentality is absolutely foolish. Such a law won't save anybody, it'll become a revenue source for the local governments. Just like the seat belt law, they'll put "no seat belt" or "texting" on every single ticket in order to increase revenue. It does nothing but increase incentive for cops to pull people over and lie about the incident, because that is...
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- Otto
Otto: "Such a law won't save anybody..." Texting while driving increases risk - if people are not looking where they are driving, it has to. I understand you might have issues with police officers and enforcement of laws, but on the question of texting while driving and it's potential to cause accidents, whether you were wearing a seatbelt or not when you were pulled over for whatever...
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- 1x29
Otto, since you are opposed to laws banning talking on cell phones while driving, may I ask if you are also against drunk-driving laws? The statistics demonstrate that the two cause a similar decrease in driving ability. While I agree with you that laws alone do not solve problems, to me that calls for additional efforts beyond mere lawmaking, as opposed to just ignoring the problem. If...
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- Lo
"Texting while driving increases risk" - This may be true but a) you have yet to prove that fact with valid statistical information, b) making laws against a behavior does not curb the behavior (I refer you to the "war on drugs"), and c) making laws when you cannot even show increased risk is a rather poor way to legislate, don't you think? I want laws that actually, you know, DO SOMETHING. Effective laws. Wouldn't it make sense to actually analyze the problem instead of passing laws based on conjecture?
- Otto
Also, yes, I'm opposed to drunk driving laws. They don't stop people from driving drunk, they merely provide for monetary punishment for those who do drive drunk. Taking away their licenses has no impact, because they'll simply drive without the license. It's a short step from breaking one law to breaking multiple laws. A better solution would be to provide incentives to sober drivers,...
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- Otto
why not prohibit any sort of cell-phone use that isn't via a hands-free? I haven't read the law but if their objective is really to only punish texting, then how can someone tell if I was really texting or not? In that sense the law would be too vague since it could be applied arbitrarily.
- David Rodriguez
Otto, I'm an alcoholic and I can assure you that drunk driving laws definitely do stop people from driving drunk, though certainly not all people. Drunk driving and its associated legal problems are the main reason my kind get it together in the end. And while you are correct that no one has presented statistics in this forum, that does not support your apparent assumption that these...
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- Lo
David, you make an excellent point. If I were world dictator it would be illegal to talk on phones while driving, period. But people are so ridiculously attached to both cars, phones, and a sense of self-importance that even I can see that's a lost cause at this time.
- Lo
David: Yeah, I don't understand just the texting thing. I accept that talking on a phone is less risky than texting. In the UK there's just a ban on using a phone unless it's on a hands free kit.
- 1x29
@Lo @Adrian: The way I see it, if a policeman stops you, one could say: "but officer I wasn't texting, I was just dialing a number because I have an emergency". The officer checks the law..."hmm, it says here no texting, but nothing about calling, well off you go" or he could fine you when you really weren't texting (which is more likely). In that sense the law lends itself to be...
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- David Rodriguez
I also read an article that for many people it isn't handling the wheel with one hand or texting what distracts them but the fact that you are talking via a phone instead. It said that talking with someone through a phone demands more from the brain than talking with them in person because your mind tends to imagine or conjure up the image of the person you are talking to. Someone who...
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- David Rodriguez
If it is revenue raising, fine. I have no problem getting people losing money, or indeed their licence, when they are sharing the road with others while not being in full control of their vehicle. And you just know with smartphones there are drivers out there using their phone while driving to do far more distracting things than talk or text. And for god's sake, how can you possibly...
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- GadgetGuy
metalerik: I have thousands of contacts in Gmail. They go out of date at a pretty rapid rate. For some reason people keep their Facebook contacts up to date.
- Robert Scoble
oh ok, makes sense especially at those numbers. Plus, my friends don't have access to my gmail contacts to keep their info up to date. That circles back to mixing different kinds of friends on one service.
- metalerik
Facebook is a great addition to any address book, but not a replacement. Once everyone has facebook it will replace the address book. Almost everyone has a phone number, but tens of millions of people are still without facebook in North America alone. I admit this is rapidly changing as Facebooks user base continues to rise.
- Garin Kilpatrick
The problem is Facebook is currently a closed Network so you can not searh it's content from Google so not really a good address book if you ask me.
- Rob Cairns
Rob, it's an address book for your friends, not the white/yellow pages.
- Andre P. Siregar
Palm thought of this when they developed Synergy for WebOS. This was a big advantage over other mobile OS. Then Facebook developed the 3.0 app for iPhone while not committing to enhance their app on WebOS (http://www.palminfocenter.com/news...). No more advantage for WebOS
- Andre P. Siregar
I'm in 100% agreement with this. I use a Blackberry, but feel the same way. People keep their info up to date on Facebook for the most part and it sync's to my phone. So do events and birthdays. LOVE it.
- frank barry
I do agree with your proposal but only for personal (F&F) use. Most of my corporate contacts are 40+ age and they're still getting used to the Facebook stuff (I'm living down south Equator Line, and it's more likely a cab driver had a Facebook account that a senior o C level manager -with the exception of people working in IT departments of course-). Hopefully they'll update their phones frequently too so that I won't have to track them down all the time.
- Marco ILLESCAS
I agree with Scoble that Gmail is really missing the boat here.
- Steve Rubel
Robert Scoble: If you set up the Google Sync on the iPhone as described here: http://www.google.com/mobile... then only the contacts in your "My Contacts" on the contacts list in GMail gets synced. It does take a little bit of initial setup to work well, but after you get it set up, it works brilliantly. When I sync my Facebook to my iPhone, the photos and such that I put on the phone then get auto-synced back to GMail as well via the Google Sync. Very clever.
- Otto
Well, as otto just said, I'm using Google Sync for iPhone. Any changes i make are instantly synced back to Google. Its also easaier to manage and merge contacts from Google's interface and sync them back to the iPhone. More groups would be a nice addition ( instead of having to search for contacts not in the synced group).
- Roberto Bonini
Syncing groups would be a *fantastic* addition to Google Sync. The iPhone supports contact groups natively, it just doesn't offer any interface to put contacts into groups by default (you can find apps that will do this in the app store.. ABContacts Lite comes to mind).
- Otto
Oh, one more thing that's very cool about Google Sync: It'll sync your Google Calendars to the calendar app on the iPhone. You can choose which calendars to sync, and Google Contacts recently added a birthday/anniversary feature, making an automatic calendar out of your contact's birthdays and such. That syncs to the iPhone as well.
- Otto
Nope. I can say definitively that Facebook will never be my address book, nor will any other online service. I may have bits and pieces on various networks, but to hold the master/superset, I trust only native access on a device I own and control. (not to mention how horrifying it would be, to me and my family and friends, to cough up my entire social graph to be pimped out for commercialization all in one place)
- LogEx
Facebook is not search able by Google. The content inside Google is closed. So how is this going to be an address book? Until they make the content searchable that will not happen
- Rob Cairns
I've been using Google sync for about a month now, ever since I got Google Voice and it's worked flawlessly so far. I'm amazed at how fast it pushes updates to the iPhone. It's almost instantaneous. I haven't tried the FaceBook integration yet and I'm reluctant to do so since I don't see any real benefit at this point.
- Mike Elliott
With this script (from Googler Brad Fitzpatrick) http://brad.livejournal.com/2398409..., you can sync your Facebook contacts with your Google Contacts. It works perfectly (merging existing contacts), it's very fast, very secure (Google API). Just awesome.
- Jérôme Flipo
Plaxo is a good alternative too. True, not everyone is there, lacking the network effect Facebook has. But integration with Address Book or Outlook is great and I find that people also maintain their info up-to-date. Thanks for those who mentioned the Google Sync, still using MobileMe and didn't want any additional sync to break everything. Might try it.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Yeah, I have a Plaxo account. A lot of my friends do too, but they never update their Plaxo information. In the end it's more than just the technology. People actually _use_ Facebook. Facebook is wise to capitalize this and strategize towards being your portal on the internet. It's something that Plaxo could never dream of.
- Andre P. Siregar
from email
Interesting topic because I had just migrated over from my OutLook/Palm combo to a Google Contacts (Gmail) / iPhone combo. The reason why I wanted to do this is because I think it is finally time to move my contacts from a physical machine to the cloud. The sync between Google Contacts and Calendar with the iPhone via Google Sync is quite seamless and I am getting to like it more and more everyday.
- Christopher Yeo
I use gmail/blackberry combo - the sync is almost perfect. Rather than use Highrisehq - I'm now trying to improvise gmail contacts+labels to do the same thing.
- Jose Paul Martin
Jose, the problem is that you can't search for contact groups, i.e you can't list contacts that are in two different groups/labels - e.g search for [group:(work AND nyc]. You can't do that either in Facebook. If you have a workaround for Google Contacts, please share!
- Jérôme Flipo
Just discovered a way to use Google Sync to get my Facebook Events automatically put into my iPhone. First, import your FB events into Google Calendar as a new calendar using these instructions: http://gr33ndata.blogspot.com/2007... then just set up Google Sync to sync that calendar as well.
- Otto
The pen is really cool - I just wish my handwriting was more readable and text-recognizable.
- Oliver Bouchard
I've been really tempted by this. My big concern is being tied to proprietary paper - if it stops being produced, the pen becomes useless?
- Trent Hamm
from iPod
What's also cool is that they've opened up an API - this is only the start.
- Elias Bizannes
Had one for a few months, very useful. BUT - incredibly annoying to write a page full of notes and then realise you forgot to turn it on! Then can't upload those notes. Has happened to me several times now - hard to remember to always boot up your pen!
- Anthony
One of the key tools in your arsenal as a Thirty Day Challenge participant is without a doubt Google Reader. Using it effectively, you can save yourself an hour a day. Ed demonstrates how to set yourself up on Google Reader, what settings to use, how to subscribe to something in your reader, how folders inside Google Reader work, and how to find and subscribe to the RSS feeds for sites you visit. Also covered in the series is an extra bonus video where Ed reveals his secret way of keeping on top of eveything in his Google Reader using the iPhone.
- Thirty Day Challenge
Very nice list, though I think Cannonball's "Somethin' Else" should be much higher than 32. IMO, Ornette at number one is *highly* disputable!
- CJ Guest
from Bookmarklet
One of the important ways to participate in the Thirty Day Challenge is through teams. The best online conferencing tool for you to connect with your team is Skype. It will work on Mac, PC and Linux, so whoever you have on your team will be able to use it too. Caro shows you how download and install the software, how to get started with Skype when you run it for the first time, and how to adjust your settings to get the best experience from Skype. Caro also takes you through the process of adding contacts to Skype, how to find them and how to add them.
- Thirty Day Challenge
This is a list of Third Sector people I've found to be really passionate, knowledgeable and generous on Twitter. It's only a start, as I know there are lots of other great people out there, but I tried to limit the list by having individual (not organisation) profiles. I hope you enjoy following their tweets.
- jamie riddell
Erin Blaskie is both the owner of Business Services ETC. BSETC and a well known virtual assistant coach. Erin has been featured in magazines books and asked to speak at major events. May 26 2009
- Brian Adrian
I have been on the IE site and cannot find 'sales agent'-where is it located?
- Jim Ault
you guys are nuts. Thanks for all the awesome tips. using Noble Samurai, what kind of SEOT and SEOC should i look for? Under 300,000 for SEO Comp but what about SEO T? Thanks!
- Lawton Chiles
Min. suggested SEOT is 80. and SEOC max is 30,000 if I recall, not 300,000 (unless you are a ninja like Dan :-) )
- Ritesh Lal
I like Dropbox. It has a limited capacity (50 GB/$99/year), but bandwidth is limited anyway. And it backs up your data nicely into the cloud.
- Oliver Bouchard
@Oliver but we saw today how nasty it can be to rely on the cloud
- Mark Bockenstedt
from IM
Mark: it keeps its data always synchronized with the local disk, so you're covered if the cloud falls down.
- Oliver Bouchard
bah, my bad. I use Dropbox, why didn't that hit me?
- Mark Bockenstedt
Talk about a premium for convenience!
- Tyler Hayes
This thing reminds me of two other services mobileme and Ctera.
- ashish
that's a really great idea. I want one now
- Brian Watkins
I haven't been able to find anything on security with this device.
- jcunwired
Question on Trust and security comes to play whenever the internet or "cloud" comes in to game.
- ashish
Angus: is FTP as easy as plugging in an ethernet cable and a USB hard drive? No.
- Robert Scoble
nice - i need to get myself something like this
- Ivan Makarov
Robert: but for someone like yourself who must be running a server, setting up an FTP might take 15 minutes max. I don't really see much benefit. Not to mention this only works for externals. A lot of my data is on internals and my externals are used almost exclusively for backups and are kept powered off.
- Angus Burton
I think the battle of what service is "better" has effectively already concluded. Now, Twitter can use its mass muscle and do whatever they like. What a blunder.
- Louis Gray
I'm hoping this kind of nonsense will bring more people over to FF.
- Michael McKean
annoys me that I might have to get used to using friendfeed. I know you love it scoble but I have long preferred twitter
- Clint
Twitter's response: http://twitter.com/dougw... and http://twitter.com/al3x... (at least that's what I think the last one is about).I replied to @dougw: What they're really saying is "i don't know about this OR i don't understand this OR i don't need this." hence the @techcrunch piece. maybe "i don't understand this" is a good reason for taking the feature away (i disagree), but that is @jasonkincaid's point, no?
- Guan Yang
Andrew: except that friendfeed has FAR better friend management. FAR better search. FAR better feature set (wait until you start using feeds and saved searches). And a FAR better community (very little spam and almost no assholes except for me. Heheh).
- Robert Scoble
Ev's just replied they're considering alternatives. That was quick.
- Sameer
@Robert Scoble: +5 You scored a bounty with that last comment
- David Damore
I really dug seeing my friends interact with other people. I'm really irritated that the feature is gone just because people "might" not understand it. Sounds like the retards I contract with at the moment.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
They should just have left it the way it was: let the user decide if he wants to view those @s or not. There is no need to be "considering alternatives".
- 321
Robert I just posted on my blog about this http://bit.ly/NbBFs ... I agree it probably helps friendfeed but I would like to see Twitter handle this snafu with a little more grace than facebook has handled similar situations. It gives Twitter the opportunity to shine in a way. They can shine by listening.
- Jesse Newhart
@Jesse Newhart: Did you see the last tweet from @ev? "Reading people's thoughts on the replies issue. We're considering alternatives. Thanks for your feedback." http://twitter.com/ev
- David Damore
321 has a good point. This feature wasn't broke to begin with. They gave users the choice to change the @reply options and explained it well when you tried to figure it out.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Scoble, step away from the ff coolaid! Do you want to repeat the great Leo laporte jaiku debarcle?
- Darryl Adams
from Nambu
David aka admore yes I saw that thanks. Doesn't mean we should stop posting about it just because Ev is 'considering alternatives'. :p
- Jesse Newhart
Don't piss off the Twitter community.
- Adam Reyher
Friendfeed seems much more friendly to me! Love the conversations. Way easier to follow threads. Think I'll start hanging out here with y'all.
- Ruth Helfinstein
321 hit is on the head... maybe he should change is name to 123 cause of how simple of a solution that would have been for the boys down and Twitterless. And where were they getting their data from that this was something users desired? I can't see too many people other than the really fickle or those that don't "get" twitter needing to remove replies?! Perfect push I needed to come to the friendlier feeds :)
- iamkhayyam
Twitter execs just borrowed the Facebook asshat and firmly donned it for themselves.
- Scott Schablow
I have my FF settings to publish all my "likes" and comments to twitter - hoping twitterers who would like to have actual conversations will wake up and come over here.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
the day i question the @geekadvancement & @shiralazar about treading the fine line of exploiting and /or embracing the geek culture, twitter decides to disable @ replies. @wilw's blog puts it into perspective.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
To remove an option completely is a dimwit thing. #fixreplies
- Jacque
I agree, when I saw that I hopped over to FF again, when you take away flexibility you take away a certain demographic uses the service. I have found more interesting people through replies then really anything else
- J. Doss
This stupid move by Twitter made me wish all the more for a mobile tool for FF that's usable. That's my ONLY issue with FF...it's simply unusable on mobile for me.
- Ken Camp
I was thinking exactly that today when I noticed that I still saw the replies here - brilliant.
- shira
Twitter now says it was a change required by engineering, not by user feature not being used. LOL
- Justin Long
Didn't twitter just remove the setting option, but continue to display @ replies?
- Steve Garfield
I'm contemplating an image of a failwhale shooting itself in the foot...
- Linda Mills
Steve the way Twitter has handled communication about what they did is pathetic and that may ultimately be they're biggest failing.
- Debi Jones
they display replies to YOU, but if your friend (i.e. Scoble, either one) replies to someone you are not following (friend-of-friend) then you won't see THAT reply.
- Justin Long
completely eliminates social discovery. its like going to a party and unless your friends with both people, not being able to hear any of the conversations. your friend's talking to someone you don't know and you can't hear... its like being blind to every conversation. Ridiculous!
- Justin Long
The number of new subscribers I've received on FF has exploded over the last 24 hours. People may be voting with more than their complaints and hashtags. Twitter could redeem itself by leap-frogging @replies and bringing back a more powerful discovery tool and that is of course - TRACK
- Debi Jones
ha i tried "track" only to have it twittered instead of an active command. i wondered what had happened to it.
- Justin Long
@scobleizer is there any way you can convince the friendfeed guys to create a simple replies feature (so I know when someone replies to a post) and/or threading (which I realize is significantly more complex than a simple reply view). This is a huge part of why people use and stick with Twitter. I doubt the shortcode/SMS is still a major factor.
- Jason Nunnelley
imho, threading is the way to go. Just like Jaiku does it and has always done it. Dunno why this is still missing from FF. And please don't bash Leo, Jaiku has been better made than Twitter, more features (but all made sense, no useless crap) and the threading. It just worked, and there was nothing big missing UI/UX-wise. Until google decided it doesn't care about microblogging, that is.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Overnight, I've become a major fan of FriendFeed. Less "silliness" than on Twitter, IMHO.
- Brandon Cox
The Twitter change would help push more traffic FF's way. Looks like Twitter are making changes based on all the -ve feedback though
- Mark Warren
It's time to wake up, Florida. We have been lulled into a complacent, decade-long sleep by the reassuring rhetoric of egocentric politicians. They have played a charming game of sleight of hand with us. They have assured us we could build a great education and health system on the cheap
- Worsttofirst
Robert, I try to do the same, assuming they are here, but FriendFeed is not yet the superset. I also tend to share them in Google Reader when possible.
- Louis Gray
Plus sometimes you strike up conversations with the bloggers, freely sharing ideas and explaining. That impressed me way back when...
- MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
That's a fantastic idea. Think I'll start doing it.
- Paul Balcerak
Yes, Mary. It always makes sense to make comments and engage with those discussing your content, if you have the time.
- Louis Gray
Nice. Encourage people to link to you by linking to them in return. Not a new concept but definitely an innovative way of doing it.
- Mark Bockenstedt
Great idea Louis. You have become my social media constant, I have to hang on to you so I don't get LOST.
- Matthew
new strategy: link to louis in every single blog post... muwahahahaha
- andy brudtkuhl
I used to do this a lot but then he got me all caught up in this 'new adopter' stuff and I couldn't get anything done (Louis rocks :)
- Charlie Anzman
those that link to vertical slice I tend to thank, I'll even come to them and offer to involve them in the show production at times by offering to involve their articles or creations. Sadly there's only one guy that does post some episodes to his blog that I'm aware of.
- alphaxion
Louis, what discovery tool do you use to find those linking to you? Google Alerts?
- Rick Bucich
PS - that question goes out to everyone else as well. I love the idea and use it to a degree but never in a systemic way. Do you think http://delicious.com is the ideal platform?
- Rick Bucich
I got really excited when I noticed a link from louismg in delicious. I wondered why, as I don't write about anything social networking related. When I figured it out I started doing the same thing: _both_ sites which linked to me have some shiny delicious.com love from me. Heh.
- DGentry
i make cupcakes for each link and mail them to each person
- Allen Stern
I so never got my cupcakes! Maybe you should email 'em Allen ;-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'll link to them if I really like their blog, otherwise I stumble a post
- Kate
Yeah your tags are ... how do you say... scattered :(
- Bwana ☠
aye, looks like you struck into the problem I did - you can't have multiple word tags unless you take out the space and bunch it into a single word. Not even quotes works
- alphaxion
Great strategy Louis, I am going to start doing a similar thing at http://delicious.com/garinki... only I am going to tag the Blog with whatever category it belongs to instead of "coverage"
- Garin Kilpatrick
Sounds like a plan to me! Will start implementing today!
- Mike Paul
So that's why one of my posts got a tweet from Louis Gray! That puzzled me a lot. Only now that I remember that I've linked to Louis in that post. Sweet! Nice touch. ",)
- jan geronimo
I do something similar. When I notice incoming links, I share them in Google Reader. This ends up on Friendfeed, of course, and gets shared with the few folks who follow my GR. I have a sidebar feature on my personal blog set to pick up the gReader bookmarks and parse them as HTML, which Google indexes. Finally, I pipe my gReader shares to Twitter via Twitterfeed.
- Chris Baskind
Help! What about posting to SU vs. Delicious? i don't want to submit 2 things to my feed....ideas? should i just use delicious?
- Lawton Chiles
Lawton: I have accounts with SU and delicious but recommend using delicious because I find it more efficient, especially when used with the Firefox plugin.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Revisiting this old thread because it's so useful.
- Rick Bucich