Second time I found myself at rpc.weblogs.com/changes.xml, IE7 presented the XML and then went down hard. It was sucking CPU cycles so hard I wasn't sure that I could get the task manager up to kill it. Took two tries. My machine seems to have quieted down now. - Dennis E. Hamilton
There were at least 10 minutes of outtakes on this one. - Jon Galloway
Listening now to see what I missed... - Jon Galloway
I say "You Know" at least once a sentence. I'm tempted to edit some of those out. Ugh. - Jon Galloway
We also collectively say "It's interesting" a LOT. Everything can't be interesting. Need more boring stuff. Will make a point of saying "it's boring but" in the next podcast. - Scott Koon
I edited that "off the record" part out and re-uploaded it. As Scott K said, I'd already removed most of it, including his tribute to Geroge Carlin. - Jon Galloway
We're you able to get this to work? I haven't been able to. - Scott Bauer
No, it didn't work for me, either. I've got tons of Twitter friends, and I'm not going to bother creating imaginary friends for all of them. So long, losers! - Jon Galloway
This some kind of morality play? Kind of a Zen back story... - Mark Forman
I like mundane tweets! keeps people human and lets you know what their lives are like! three cheers for non-tech tweets! - Marshall Kirkpatrick
please let us know when you're going to pop over to the
post office. Inquiring minds want to know. :) - Brett Kelly
This thread cracks me up. And also reminds me that I haven't been to the grocery store in over 2 weeks. My husband probably wishes I was tweeting about going to the grocery store... - Sonciary Honnoll
The suspense is killing me - I can barely stand it!! - Devin Anderson
woo! this is so exciting i am glad i stayed up for this - if he was using brightkite we would know when he picks up the can of peas and the large dozen eggs :-p - Allen Stern
Shit. If he was using BrightKite, we'd know exactly which aisle he was in - and then we'd know exactly WHEN he gets the milk - and if it's dairy or soy. - l0ckergn0me
You fools. Leave Jeremy alone. Your life is so empty, you have to attack his tweets. Losers! - Steven E. Streight
now see Hao - that was a perfect opp for a rickroll - you missed it! :) i am a 1% guy but will do 2% if the expiry date is better! never skim, never full fat - Allen Stern
sweet! I was going to suggest that for this room as well. - Alan Le
Looks like we get dupes because the media's linked from HerdingCode.com as well as all of our blogs. Maybe the only service listed should be the HerdingCode.com feed? - Jon Galloway
+1 Jon - Now I see your blogs on your FF feeds and also in the HC room too. Would make sense to just have the HC feed in the room. Just my 2c. - Ryan Farley
Ah, I imported them all because I could see some people joining the room, but not necessarily following all of us. - Scott Koon via twhirl
There would have to be a complete re-design around both binding and the simple "IMessageService" interface I threw in there. It could be done, but perhaps the Twhirl approach, e.g. a window per service, would work better? - Scott Koon via twhirl
I would take a user-centric approach. what are the primary actions on ff, secondary actions, what info is necessary, how to reduce info-overload, etc. starting with this type of brainstorming, it would probably mean creating a new client vs a client that does both twitter and friendfeed. - Alan Le
I agree. Now that I've used FriendFeed for a bit, I'm seeing how a client like AlertThingy pulls that together. With FriendFeed as a superset, I don't really need Twitter anymore. - Jon Galloway
I agree with Alan, FF has so much more info available, it would be better to design for FF than fit in an old box. - John Stockton
Yeah, not sure what's the fail. Was the laptop running Vista? Was it there for a demo? Tons of Mac's at MIX to demonstrate cross-platform capabilities, for instance. - Jon Galloway
It could have been shennanegins as well. But I liked it. :D - Joel Gray via twhirl
Check out the byline of the presentation on the screen. Balmer? Running a Mac? Heck, Balmer running a demo? - Scott Koon
That is totally awesome. I wonder if Balmer was even aware that his presentation was running on a Mac? - Scott Banwart
See, I'm thinking that if I add the Twitter folk I'm following, creating imaginary friends if they don't use friendfeed, and use engtech's twitter script. FF will be a better Twitter client than Twitter. - Scott Koon via twhirl
This is one of my favorite features of FriendFeed, though what happens when your imaginary friends really do join FF? Is it smart enough to change them into "real" friends? - Brandon Wood
I'm still not entirely sure how this room stuff works. You can share things with everyone or just with a specific room. Plus, you don't have to subscribe to a whole bunch of people if you only share one common interest with them. I think it could be like targeted Twitter. - Scott Koon
"it could be like targeted Twitter" - my thoughts are it's like formalized Hashtags - Joel Ross
think of rooms like #hashtags on twitter. it's a way to consolidate messages and links around a central topic such as Herding Code :) - Alan Le
I'm starting to warm up to FriendFeed more and more. Twhirl's support for it is particularly nice. - Nate Kohari via twhirl
I'm also more of a FF supporter these days. - Otto R. Radke
Replies are back on Twitter, till their down again.... - paul mooney
I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of FF, I'm still not crazy about the interface but it's growing on me. I wonder if a new interface built on google app engine but using the FF api under the covers would be worth exploring. - Steve Eichert
FF still needs more filtering/slicing options. GM scripts aren't cutting it. You miss a lot of possibly interesting things if you follow a lot of people or follow people who post a lot. - Scott Koon
I agree with Scott. More filters and maybe the possibility to cluster similar links is all I want from FriendFeed. - Alejandro S.
Metaprogramming is a little easier in Ruby than in JavaScript IMO. Some of the helper things like method_missing, which you have to write from scratch in JS, are useful. - Scott Koon
Yeah, that's for sure. I wasn't aware there was ANY way to achieve method_missing in JS. Is there some way of accomplishing it? - Chad Myers
There is in Mozilla/Rhino/SpiderMonkey only. There is a __noSuchMethod__ member that gets called if it's defined and a TypeError is thrown. http://snurl.com/2qgll There's also a proposal in ECMAScript 4 called CatchAlls which defines 4 methods to be called if a property lookup fails. http://snurl.com/2qglv Other than those two, you either define a message dispatcher and make all your method calls using it or just wrap calls you expect to fail with if(obj["methodname"]. - Scott Koon
Ah man. Trouble is, FriendFeed is so ugly :) Oh and I can't stand the lag around it - 15 minutes to receive a tweet??. - Lawrence
I don't know about you Lawrence, but I find that my tweets get here almost instantly. I often find AlertThingy picks up some tweets before twhirl does. - David Adam
That would be cool if it did, but having run them side by side, it's got some pretty big lag. Could be the update rate... Oh and by the way, Twhirl does FriendFeed as well, now. - Lawrence via twhirl
I prefer the AlertThingy UI. and yeah, its mostly an issue of update rate mostly- but my tweets appear almost instantaneously on the friendfeed website too - David Adam
Yeah, I see Tweets on FF faster than on Twitter. - Scott Koon
Yeah, JScript.NET is basically just a skinned .NET language. A gimped down version of JavaScript. No closures. The DLR promises a TRUE managed JavaScript. - Scott Koon
They don't have "bus" or "train" listed on the list. FAIL ;) - Scott Koon via twhirl
Although I guess in all fairness the title does say "car". - Scott Koon via twhirl
A bus is typically around 10mpg diesel. - Morton Fox
Yeah, unless you calculate it per person. Amount to transport 1 person 1 mile for example. - Scott Koon via twhirl
A car can hold more than one person too. Cars look bad compared to mass transit because many of us use cars for single-person trips. We attach a value to that flexibility and convenience at the expense of gas consumption. Unless there's a way to factor that in, the two modes of transportation are not comparable in MPG terms only. - Morton Fox
wondering, how many were in car when consumption had been calculated? just one? what if two? family? - silpol
I'm leaning towards the xD, Yaris, and Jetta TDI - how awesome would it be to run biodiesel thru that thing? - Hao Chen
and... no ELECTRIC cars in list means not even fail but auto industry has NOT learned lessons yet... - silpol
"HIV rates in DC are 100x what they are in North Dakota. How do you explain that?" Is this guy serious? Is this what qualifies for science these days. Oh dear, we're so screwed. Hrm, Mr. "Doctor"... maybe it has to do with number of prostitutes, adult clubs, drug use, etc, etc, etc? Just a thought! Oh yeah, and another gem is when they call abstinence training 'wrong thinking', and then go on to talk about how, despite spending billions on condoms, condom training, etc, HIV rates are STILL skyrocketing. How's that for 'wrong thinking'. Morons. - Chad Myers
It could also be that people in more conservative states are less likely to admit/report cases of HIV or even go in for diagnosis in the first place. Plus the DC area is probably denser than North Dakota. - Scott Koon
Scott: Conservatives are less likely to report HIV? What? Are you serious? C'mon, that's beyond ignorant. You're smarter than that. Pop. density is definitely a factor. Also, it might be that people in N. Dakota don't engage in as risky behavior because they have better character? I'm willing to bet that marriages are higher, divorce rates are lower, and church attendance is WAY higher in N.Dakota than in D.C. - Chad Myers
From somebody who's Internet experience has been heavily influenced by you (you were one of the first blogs I ever followed), best of luck and I look forward to seeing the results of your new opportunity! - Damon via twhirl
Reading this in Friendfeed. Doesn't seem appropriate to "like" it. More "ackknowledge that it is news". You seemed like a force for good in a good company Jeremy. - Scott Koon via twhirl
Congratulations ;) What's next ? Google or Own project ;) - David Berrebi via twhirl