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Watching now. BTW, you've convinced me to try "hundreds of slides" approach some day - I wasn't sure it works in more scientific talks. - Pawel Szczesny

Pawel, I wasn't sure either, but I've had a chance to do deeper dives now (at Supercomputing) and it seems to work, especially as I get more comfortable talking science in this format. If I had to choose an alternate one it would be a pure storytelling/figure format, i.e. about some of your core results and work backwards if required. - Deepak Singh

that was a really great talk! - Jeremy Leipzig

Same nightmare about getting out of the airport. They do _not_ speak English, so how do I get from Narita to the hotel???? Day of Googling ahead. - Jan Aerts

fortunately a relative will be at the Airport and will wait for me. Jan, FYI I'll land in Tokyo tomorrow 14th at 14H00. - Pierre Lindenbaum

@Pierre @Jan People are friendly and helpful in Japan in my experience, the tube system is fairly easy to find your way around because its all colour coded too. Enjoy! - Duncan Hull

Ha! Is the "I know what I've seen" one a reference to "Watchmen" or "Twilight Zone"? - Chris Lasher

Take the Bus. There is a bus service that takes from from Narita into Tokyo hotels (by zone). Narita is a ways away from tokyo, so DO NOT TAKE A CAB. - Deepak Singh

I remember when BIND went commercial ..all sorts of web-services suddenly broke(changed URLS )and were partly inaccessible. Its sad that we have free web-email but no money for persistent hosting of these resources. Maybe we should assemble a bioinformaticians-sans-frontier to rescue these services and port them to the cloud ( google-app-engine , amazon and other such services) - Hari

@Hari Wouldn't it be nice? - Chris Lasher

How'd you pay for cloud resources? - Rajarshi Guha

It'd be good to repeat this kind of survey now (that data is from 2005). Maybe a good Biogang project? Get all the databases from six months of Bioinformatics (or pick a NAR databases issue) from, say, three years ago and see how they're doing? - Euan

@Euan Wasn't it done last year ? I don't remember who's done the job. - Pierre Lindenbaum

we started just to check if they were online and if they worked but we never finished. - Pedro Beltrao

NIH has an active PA for "Continued Development and Maintenance of Software" (http://grants.nih.gov/grants...) which even dates back to 2002. Wonder how many grants have been funded off of it... - Andrew Su

Great data point... Agreed with Euan that this kind of survey needs to be repeated. Ideally, one would re-contact the databases contacted in 2005 in order to update the data, and then also contact databases mentioned in a new collection of issues. - Hilary

One could create a shared spreadsheet on google-doc, with each database and its current status. - Pierre Lindenbaum

It's almost worse if a one-off database stays up abandoned with old data. I bear some major guilt here - the Alternative Splicing Gallery (my thesis project) is still running with ESTs from 2003 and consistently gets 130 unique visitors a month. There is no simply no mechanism (guilt doesn't count) to maintain a program that is created for the purpose of getting a paper published. - Jeremy Leipzig

@Pierre @Hilary Something like Michael Barton's survey? http://tinyurl.com/6gs6pq - Chris Lasher

Duncan, is your thesis available somewhere as a pdf document ? I've the feeling it contains many things I'd like to learn about taverna, biomoby etc.... - Pierre Lindenbaum

Likewise, but at the bottom of the page it says Duncan says he'll publish it soon, he just has to make final corrections. - Chris Lasher

I'm also very interested in giving this a read. Please let us know when it's available :-) - Ricardo Vidal

*blushes* I can email you a copy - Duncan Hull

@Duncan , that would be great: plindenbaum yahoo fr - Pierre Lindenbaum

@Duncan chris DOT lasher <AT> gmail TOD com - Chris Lasher

wouldn't it be great if we created an email list? - Paulo Nuin

Excellent idea, Paulo. Any ideas (interested) FF'ers as to how best to take this forward? - Graham Steel

It is possible to create a simple mailing list and have full access by everyone of everyone's info. - Paulo Nuin

I've set up a Mailman server before. I don't know if that does what you want. It sounds more like you're looking for an email registry. FWIW most of us have our email listed somewhere on one of the services published through FriendFeed. - Chris Lasher

yes, we do, but if we need access to someone else's email we don't have it at hand. I have a mailing list in my ISP's server, but that's not handy. - Paulo Nuin

Google groups? - Rajarshi Guha

Nice one, Rajarshi, didn't know about Google groups http://groups.google.com/ - Graham Steel

Rajarshi may be on to something. Groups provides mailing list support, as well as support for wiki-like pages. We could choose to publish our emails on that. Still, my Spidey Sense says we're re-inventing the wheel. - Chris Lasher

Most of us are connected threw LinkedIn. The e-mail are available to the direct contacts. - Pierre Lindenbaum

maybe a Ning network would solve this problem - Jeremy Leipzig

or someone with a daring sense of humor :-) - Björn Brembs

Neither silly nor embarrassing... just very, very funny. - Richard P Grant

I've heard politics described as a dog and pony show... - Richard Akerman

It's dog eat dog then. woof woof! - Duncan Hull

sighs - Graham Steel

Ooooops: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol... - Bora Zivkovic

@Bora Yikes I'm surprised it made the Times. Ouch. - Richard Akerman

quote "It just goes to show that editorial and advertising aren't working in cahoots" pleads Nature - Duncan Hull

Something to point to, next time the argument comes up about Nature (or any journal) accepting or refusing papers in order to please advertisers. Pretty clear that the editorial hand has no idea what the advertising hand is up to. :-) - Bill Hooker

Wow...definitely a sily mistake but...damn - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah