WTF does patriotism even *mean*? Loyalty to what, exactly? A logo? A vague concept? Unthinking nationalism? Or is it about ideals? Sorry, Virginia, but patriotism ain't blind loyalty and putting a sticker on your car.
Look at that. Here we are having a complete argument in one thread and then you post something with which I absolutely and completely agree.
- Brad Nickel
I really like this post. Except I think 'Virginia' should read 'America'.
- Aaron Hood
@Aaron - "Virginia" is a metaphor for the average American. Thanks though. There's a good quote from Mark Twain on the subject .. I'll attach when I can find it.
- Anthony Citrano
I really hope the upcoming generation figures out the answer to this question. Really.
- Josh Haley
@Anthony- Understood. @Josh- We're working on it. Or trying to at least.
- Aaron Hood
I think it means putting two american window flags on your car.
- Alex Scoble
But only after some grave national crisis.
- Alex Scoble
Also requires the use of the magnetic yellow "support the troops" ribbons. I know when I was in Iraq, I only felt better by knowing that so many people supported me by their use of magnetic yellow ribbons.
- Michelle Martinez
Yeah, what's bad is that not one dollar made selling those magnetic things ever made it to the troops, unlike all the Live Strong paraphernalia. Those stickers really annoyed me as a former member of the armed forces. The best way to support the troops would have been to vote for someone that wouldn't have sent our troops overseas to an unnecessary war.
- Alex Scoble
Michelle & Alex- YES! Please stop showing off that you support the troops by having a magnet on your car. Send your money to the USO or to a veteran's fund. We don't need to know that you support the troops.
- Aaron Hood
I remember the sense in the days after 9-11 when it was felt that this event was too horrible, too precious to be commercialized. Everyone was doing everything for free or at cost and if anything so much as *smelled* commercial, people were shamed. It didn't take us too long to get from there to the Franklin Mint late-night TV commercials selling "limited edition" $50 coins with a flag and a little World Trade tower on them that "rose" out of the coin...
- Anthony Citrano
Yep, Abby, and what did that take, a whole month?
- Anthony Citrano
Patriotism is what spiritual link connects you to your country or nation! It's like the kingdom of heaven, it is in your heart!! Those who put stickers on their cars are capable of that much only - appearances. Nationalism, ideals, loyalty are empty but charged words...for those who can do no better.
- Hayk H.
Sounds like hogwash to me, Hayk. I am asking for a more specific definition of patriotism, specifically what Americans mean when they say it. I disagree that the words are empty - so long as we explain what we mean when we say them - because coming from most people they are simply platitudes.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony, you are right. I reread and thought of it as much :) But we put meanings into words. As for definitions, here is one, "Patriotism is a feeling of pride and love for one's country." ....... 'Nietzsche wrote that words with a history cannot be defined. Their meanings are in their stories, their biographies. That is surely the case with "patriotism." Patriotism is as patriots have done.' Source: http://bit.ly/3ZW7bp
- Hayk H.
Dave R using my least favorite say-nothing term “un-American” inspired me to bump this.
- Anthony Citrano
"Patriotism" is to the average citizen what "Electability" is to the average politician. They are both vague and ever-changing consensus of the population (or media, for the cynics out there.)
- Scott Ohlemacher
No point worrying about things that you can't do anything about - often easier said than done though!
- Amy
It just makes you seem oddly human, which is not a way that I'm used to thinking about "famous" people. I think it's easy to forget that even hosts of internet gadgetry shows still use technology the same way that the rest of us do. If you are looking for a way to emotionally detach yourself, I suggest bacon. There's no problem too large for bacon to solve.
- Mick Crawford
One word: compartmentalization. Image the situation in a box with many helium balloons attached (a la Up), and imagine it floating away with the 'situation' in side. Imagining this is remarkable helpful. When your mind wanders back to the situation, scold and remind it about the balloon-box. Works well enough for me when I'm in or near a Pit of Despair.
- Jason Miller
I used to have problems falling sleep because all these things would pop in my head when im laying in bed that i have no control over and i would worry about them. Finnaly i learn to not worry about them.
- Fee501st
I didn't mean "oddly human" as anything even resembling negative, so I hope that's not how it came across.
- Mick Crawford
What do those with PTSD who struggle with both lack of control and emotional detachment do?
- Robt.D.McKenzie
When I have problems like that sometimes I just read the lyrics to .38 Special's "Hold On Loosely" http://www.youtube.com/watch... and other times I imagine I am the one guy up there with a hat that isn't even turned up in the mixing board... the lesson is that you get to rock out but the final mix isn't something you have absolute control over or how it is to be distributed later.
- Jay Cuthrell
Sounds likea "man" situation....just a guess. heehee!
- Mel Collins
Filed under: Productivity, Social Software One way to figure out whether you should follow someone on Twitter is by seeing who your mutual friends. Twtrfrnd makes that very easy: just enter your username and someone else's, and it does the rest. Soon, it will even let you log in to automatically see friends you have in common with people who have recently followed you. Finding common friends is a good way to know whether a specific person might be worth following, but anybody can follow a lot of your friends. It's not the most selective way of doing things. That's why there's also the "indicators" list. It shows you which of your friends are following someone, giving you a more accurate indicator of how interested you might be in that person's updates. Twtrfrnd finds mutual friends on Twitter originally appeared on Download Squad on Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:00:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds. Read | Permalink | Email this | Comments
- Jay Niemann
@Abhishek: When I was in school, we used to have things called books. Not these fancy online laptop PDA devices you kids tug along these days.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
blah! Of course you can! :) Alp, I struggled when I was a student because I was a lazy dork. But one thing I've learnt for sure is Bob Bemer's famous citation: ((((DO SOMETHING!) SMALL) USEFUL) NOW!) — just start doing it, but really start... you'll see things will be easier than you might think :)
- directeur
It's possible. Just try and stay offline for a few days (3 is a good number) as an experiment. After you find you can, you will find it easier to have offline hours during the day.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
directeur, you're right. Starting is the half of the way to finishing. :)
- Alp
before anything else, do your work! get it in your head that you must do that first before anything else, when in bed, last thing to think of before sleep is, 'must do such a lesson first, get it out of the way' and repeat ... this way you sleep on it, and hey presto in the morning its the first thing you think of lol
- Tatty Gibson
For the last year, every month has seen five new tech names featured on louisgray.com, from Hutch Carpenter, Rob Diana and Mona to Charlie Anzman, Jesse Stay, Corvida and Kipp Bodnar. Add your favorite lesser-known tech blogs here. I will subscribe to _all_ of them and there's a good chance they get featured.
- Louis Gray
Here is last month's example: http://louisgray.com/live.... Rather than think I know all of them, it'd be great to ask the community. Guidelines would be that the author tends to cover tech, Web, social media, gadgets, business or the Valley. If they have more than 1,000 RSS readers, that's too many. If they have made Techmeme in the last two months, they also don't belong.
- Louis Gray
ask the admin, a very good blog, people ask questions about computers, the admin answers them.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Microblink.com - covering the microblogging space and fellow Des Moines, IA bloggers! They also run wthashtag.org tracking origins of twitter hashtags
- andy brudtkuhl
Steve Wiseman's http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog... is only moderately active, but he loads it with plenty of practical, readily-applicable tricks & techniques. And he's got a few very handy downloads too!
- Rob O'Daniel
@Louis Ooops! missed that! Well another Des Moines, IA company is running a weekly video series on social media marketing - http://lavarow.com - called "Area 52".. I searched this time to make sure you haven't covered them :-)
- andy brudtkuhl
Anthony, yes, of course I am subscribed to you. I will make doubly sure.
- Louis Gray
on an unrelated note - great panel yesterday Louis. I didn't get a chance to meet you afterwards as I was running to a lunch meeting
- andy brudtkuhl
ok to plug our own blog? I'm the owner of http://planet5d.com - We've got more Canon 5D information/reviews/still/video samples than anywhere else on the planet. Yes, very specific, but a hot topic these days as they're hard to find but creating lots of stir
- planetMitch
Mitch, if you write about tech, and aren't a brand name, then plug away. I would also like to hear about sites you read that you bet I don't.
- Louis Gray
Shameless self promotion (and the last post is not tech related and I've written about 40 posts) but have you visited my blog? http://jungleg.com
- Jorge Escobar
Mohomed, I'll pass on KillerStartups. They're very visible, but I don't find that they add much value over other similar sites.
- Louis Gray
Blogs I read that I bet you don't? The Cranky Product Manager (http://www.crankypm.com) though she probably has more readers than your guidelines.
- DGentry
I have mine back on line from a long hiatus, server down, hubby rebuilding it. http://www.notjustanotherwebsite.com I love the name, tried to think of something "professional" but "fun." I think I found that. Back when I created it, was looking for a teaching job. Same is true now. Or technology job!!!!!!!!!!!
- Patty Pinkley
if you count gaming as tech then there's my video blog over at http://verticalslice.tumblr.com </shamelessplug> could always do with the extra eyeballs, especially when I'm courting people for distribution or sponsorship deals so I can fund myself and eventually a paid contributer :)
- alphaxion
As a side note, I'll be following all the commenters here on FriendFeed if I wasn't following you already. Thanks for participating!
- Louis Gray
Thanks alot Louis, good to see a superstar like yourself gets in the trenches with the little people.
- tony
Tony, any reports of my being a superstar are greatly exaggerated. Case in point, I'm sitting in the hallway at SXSW right now, wearing an LG shirt, and nobody knows me. They just walk by... :)
- Louis Gray
My blog is at http://vinf.net - Virtualization, Windows, Infrastructure and all the "stuff" inbetween. some good blogs posted here that I've not come across before - good idea!
- Simon Gallagher
I recommend Margaret Lewis' virtualization and cloud computing blog at AMD: http://blogs.amd.com/virtual... -- if you check it this month it is all guest posts for Virtualization Ecosystem Month, but scroll down to see Margaret's content.
- JulieLass
So that's all of the tech blogs that are worth reading out there? I've subscribed to all, so it looks like the community has spoken.
- Louis Gray
Timepedia.blogspot.com, mostly focused on visualization, google web toolkit, and social media. I try to write posts covering techniques no one has tried yet.
- Ray Cromwell
I'm tempting to push my own blog... but that wouldn't be correct.. If you are into SQL Server.. try www.keepitsimpleandfast.com
- Aad 't Hart
Self-promo alert: I edit a blog about venture investment, innovation, and entrepreneurship at http://goldencapitalnetwork.blogspot.com/ We're a nonprofit advocating for venture-based economic development. --Ax
- Alan Chamberlain
The University of the People promises to open the gates of higher education to anyone in the world interested in attending college. We believe that education at a very minimal cost is a basic right for all suitable applicants, not just for a privileged few.
- Angel
In my view it depends on a person who's being influenced. Btw, what's wrong with Arrington. Haven't seen his posts on TC for a month or so.
- Alan Kodzasov
Alan: He took time off after getting death threats and such. Who's got the details??
- Roberto Bonini
Sure. Can't blame him tho. Hope he's back soon. this web is awful quite it with out mike banging agaist the walls ;)
- Roberto Bonini
Alan he got a death threat late last year and someone spit in his face in January. He took a month off to sit on a beach in Kauai. I saw him this week and he looked a lot happier.
- Robert Scoble
of course, isn't word of mouth based on this?
- Liviu Lica
yes, hence the term peer pressure. ;)
- John LeMasney
People you know, like and respect are always an influence. Two out of three might make you an influencer but all three are the holy grail of influence.
- Brian Sullivan
Mike is back on blogging, at least that's what his posts show on TC. Rob, is is Kawaii or Kauai after all? Kauai seems more possible
- Stefanos Kofopoulos
I lived in Maui for about 8 years, (wishing I was there now since it is snowing again) but it didn't influence many of my friends to come visit, nevermind move there :)
- craterdweller
If you have time to take a break then I would say do it. Just go. You will not be able truly quantify the rewards it will bring you in the future. Downtime is not wasted time.
- WorldofHiglet
I think, it's a great idea for folks with high-stress lifestyles to take a nice long break to get recharged. Spending some time on a tropical beach (doing nothing) can do wonders for one's frame of mind :)
- MiaD
Brian Solis' blog post today really speaks to this point "I Like You: The Emerging Culture of Micro Acts of Appreciation with Macro Impact" http://poprl.com/NSr
- Susan Beebe
I met Robert at last year's IFA in Berlin for a short walk around the show floor. He's great guy and I wish him and his new venture all the best. And I agree that he should get back together with Rocky. I don't think they are done with their work yet...
- Holger Eilhard
Robert has a long history of personal resiliency, so I am thinking that this is just a minor setback. I too want to wish him well.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, I don't think of this as a setback for him at all. I think of this as a new and better opportunity for him. Like a lot of magazines Fast Company I'm sure was hit hard in this recent downturn. Robert needs certain things to thrive best. Rocky was a first rate editor. Robert's time is best spent doing what he does which is out and about interviewing people and having someone like Rocky to edit his stuff was important. Robert will do better someplace that is growing rather than cutting back.
- Thomas Hawk
Robert you might want to tuck that away for your eulogy. Quite a tribute.
- Todd Hoff
Todd: Thomas is one of the best people I know, it's a real honor to have him as a friend.
- Robert Scoble
We all know Scoble will be a-ok in the days, weeks and years to come. I'm sure we're going to hear news about this awesome new service that pays by the kilobyte of awesome video you post, meaning Scoble will become very, very wealthy...
- Mike Nayyar
Great post Thomas - I'm also looking forward to his next venture ...
- Patrick Jordan
A very good article that helps us remember how much he contributes to our community.
- Jonathon
Mike: actually that's a very interesting idea! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Very nice post on Scoble. I've never met either of you, but from your descriptions I can tell that you both are exactly how you come across online. And that is most definitely not a bad thing :-)
- Rene Wirtz
We have to wait until SXSW? You're killing me! Whatever he does you know it's going to be good.
- Bruce Lewis
Good luck Scoble. We met at a Social Media Club event in Phoenix a few years back and I have been following you ever since. Looking forward to your new adventures.
- John Seiferth
Amen! You've got lots of helpers if you ever need them!
- Scott Loftesness
What a wonderful article, and the pictures at Flickr were enjoyable as well. I wish the two of you would do a photowalk in San Diego so I could meet both of you in person!
- Laura Zickus
Best of luck to you! May your next chapter be profitable to you in every possible way!
- vicster
That was a great summary of Scoble. I'm sure his next adventure will be something to watch.
- Jeremy Brooks
The sentiment here about Robert (and folks like TH too) are right on - the level of transparency, integrity and work ethic we see sets the bar high for leaders in a community (a network of micro communities, as it might be put better). Think about Paul Harvey. An endearing, tireless pioneer who reached his community with the media/technology of his day for 70+ years. Scobleizer's journey, I believe, has just begun.
- Micah Wittman
more time to spend with the Sean McBrides of the world. lucky "fast company" to be rid of a man and his destructive politics.
- Noah David Simon
Fabulous post Thomas!! WOW!!!!!!! Lovely, moving and very well documented. Robert is an amazingly passionate, intelligent, smart and uber-technical guy that really has an astounding work ethic that never fails to deliver value in everything he does!! - you captured that very well with this blog post. :) Personally, I -like you- think he should link up with Friendfeed. that would be a PERFECT fit and a complete win-win relationship; however, I'd be concerned that FF might be too small for him.
- Susan Beebe
You mean like the ratings widgets we've had forever?
- Todd Hoff
Todd, yes kinda of based on the ratings widgets we have had forever but we have added personalized recommendations as well
- Bindu Reddy
Re: liking on Likaholix — I would call it “asymmetric” rather than “asynchronous” (from the article).
- Amit Patel
OK Bindu, I signed up. We'll see what happens.
- Todd Hoff
I always read *Lick*-aholix. Makes me laugh.
- Bret Taylor
@Bret I was about to type the same thing. NAMEFAIL methinks.
- Clay Newton
Ya Bret, I know what you mean... Naming has been a huge problem. We went with Likaholix because people tended to remember that name. We also got the domain "yourlikes" but a lot of people found it too generic. We will see how it goes..
- Bindu Reddy
@Todd, OK let me know if you have feedback.
- Bindu Reddy
People always accidentally call us "Friend Finder" which is amusing. I am not sure if we own AdultFriendFeeder.com :)
- Bret Taylor
ok i subscribe to a lot of a blogs and have about 10 tags/categories in feedly/google reader. In Google Reader I have a list of tags on the left side of the page with the blogs organised into the tags. In feedly however, all the tags are at the top of the page...My question is, how are those tags in Feedly ordered?
- Zee.
and how do I know how many unread posts are in the tags lined up in the top black bar?
- Zee.
@Nick, sorry i had to delete your comment so people could see the question at the top comment
- Zee.
I'm pretty sure in fact that the tags are ordered by recently updated with new posts...But i still don't know how many new posts
- Zee.
Click Digest, and on the right side of the page will be a list of all unread posts per blog/feed. As for how feedly determines what shows up at the top, I don't know if its alphabetical or listed by tag addition.
- Nick
The default order is based on the number of favorite sources you have in that category. So if Cat B includes 4 sources marked as favorite and Cat A includes 3 then Cat B will be listed before Cat A. We have been hearing from a lot of users that giving them control over the order through some kind of drag and drop would be better so we are working on that and should have something out by mid next week.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
or click each tag at the top to see, again on the right side, how many unread posts for feeds in that catgeory only
- Nick
ah ok awesome - i get how they are ordered now...the drag & drop will be great. However regarding the number of new blog posts - the main reason i end up going back to google reader is because it shows me on the left side list a number for how many new posts I haven't read. That isn't available in Feedly yet right or am i missing something?
- Zee.
As the number of unread in each tag/category...Nick is right: the information is only available in the sidebar, not in the top bar. ...but it would be easy to do or at least add a preference knob for it if people think it would make their life easier.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I think it's because i'm a pretty heavy RSS user because I write a lot, so I tend to need a quick way to check how many posts I haven't read. In google reader i look to the left and I just see a number...on feedly i have to constantly click the tag to check and then keep on refreshing (assuming i haven't visited another tag)
- Zee.
zee, in feedly, you should see the number of unread articles per subscription in the right sidearea when you are on the digest or on the latest pages. Do you see those?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I see...this is not right...you should see something like http://www.flickr.com/photos... in the past we had a pref knob to turn off the number of unread counts (some people were stressed/overwhelmed by those numbers). But I think we removed those..Something might be wrong in your preferences. I will check this evening and will get back to you with a plan to fix this problem.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
oh no no, i'm a plonker Edwin...it's my fault.I didn't have my browser wide enough! I see them and definitely helpful. However, my main gripe is - i just need a quick way to view the number of unread posts in one category/tag no matter where I am in Feedly. So I think yeah, just an option number next to the tag/category in the top bar should do the trick
- Zee.
from IM
cool :-) I will think about this. In the meantime here is a work around: whenever you want to see the unread count information of the top ten categories, type gg and if you want to see all the other keyboard shortcuts, type ?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
cool, thanks again Edwin. The GG is awesome except doesn't seem to update immediately as i go through the feeds or a short while after. For example, i just went through all my feeds in "tech updates", ReadWriteWeb then had an update - but if I press GG i see this: http://b5.s3.p.quickshareit.com/files... . It's only after i completely refresh the page manually that the GG numbers update
- Zee.
That is a bug. There is no reason we should not update it in real-time. Will talk to the team and get is fixed this week. Thanks for the heads up!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Update: we looked into this. Our assumption is that you kept the gg "window" open while reading. Yes? If that is the case, we are going to auto-hide it when the user starts interacting with the main content. The temporary work around is to click on ESC to close the popup and retype gg to show it again. When it re-opens, you should get the accurate unread counts for each categories.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Do you guys wanna know what's worse? Look closely at the bag it came in. There are arrows that show exactly where to cut. This person was like, "YO, Screw that! LEROOOOOOOOOOOY JENKIIIIIIINS"
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Google should do a universal one-box for real-time web information (Twitter, FriendFeed etc) somewhat similar to how they mix news and videos results into standard web-results
So for example if I typed in a something that is currently in the news - e.g. Caroline - in addition to normal search results, I could see a section that showed tweets and conversations on FF.
- Bindu Reddy
I wonder if you can use “Google Subscribed Links” for this.
- Amit Patel
So I don't think that would work well. I don't want to see real-time web results for all my queries. Only the ones that have some recent/relevant activity. Should be relatively easy for someone in search quality to figure out which queries to show it on.
- Bindu Reddy
@Bindu, I believe Subscribed Links works in either of two modes: one, by having the user supply keywords that trigger it, or two, by having the search provider itself offer a list of keywords via a feed. So Twitter could provide a list of top terms.
- DeWitt Clinton
"Real-time information" really needs to stabilize before this hits search. When I can effortlessly, efficiently, and cleanly move my updates around the web from twitter to friendfeed to facebook to <random site>, I think that's when we've "arrived" and things are ready for primetime. (Just my personal opinion.)
- Jonathan Terleski
Yes, Twitter could provide the top terms... I suspect Google could do it much better than Twitter, esp because Google can look at other data sources like news etc to figure out relevance. Also if Twitter provided the top terms, the feature would really have to be subscription/Twitter only. Most Google users don't subscribe.
- Bindu Reddy
Twitter (the former Summize team) is actually pretty good at search and measuring trends. For example, here's a bootleg feed of their trending topics: http://www.dapper.net/service...
- DeWitt Clinton
OK, even if Twitter were to be good at supplying terms. I think something that is little more universal - i.e. not just Twitter. Maybe Twitter, FB status feeds and FF items ranked based on popularity and recency maybe good
- Bindu Reddy
Also, "the realtime web" is much bigger than microblogging. There's lots of stuff happening out on the web all the time, and Google does pick that up pretty well. I'd redefine "realtime web" to be "real world news hitting the web asap," which is actually considerably smaller than the former (I'd imagine..).
- Jonathan Terleski
Sorry, final comment. The "realtime web" that I care about is the intersection of: Stuff Happening Right Now, Stuff I care about, and Stuff I haven't heard yet. Search engines generally bat 2 out of 3 on those..
- Jonathan Terleski
Okay, did it. I created a very rough and dirty implementation of twitter trending topics inside Google Search results. To use it, visit this page: http://www.google.com/coop.... Click "Subscribe". Now do a normal Google search for one of the trending topic terms, such as [iPhone] or [Dalai Lama] (at the time of this writing).
- DeWitt Clinton
Right now I'm not saving old trending topics (though I could, and should). To see what topics will trigger at any given moment you can look at search.twitter.com or look here: http://json-indent.appspot.com/indent...
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt - really cool that you managed to hack this up so quickly... Just tried it and also took a look at the trending topics list. There seem to be only 10 of them at any time.. Is that all Twiiter will provide at any one time. Again very impressive :)
- Bindu Reddy
Thank you, but really thank Twitter/Summize for their search api, the usual amazing Google search team for providing subscribed links, and the App Engine team for saving me the trouble of setting a server up myself. : )
- DeWitt Clinton
Yes, Twitter is only providing the last ten. Tomorrow I'll change the backend to save the last 100 or so.
- DeWitt Clinton
One incident in the recent past where for the first time in many years Google failed me was when eNom had the DDOS attack. I tried to use Google (search, blog search, and also in a bunch of bulletin boards) to get more info, but the only place where I finally got what I needed was Twitter search. I am not sure that it had enough tweets to have made it to the summize trending terms, but that sort of event would be a good use case for Google to improve on.
- Arvind Sundararajan
Playing around with Twitter a lot more today, after the NY times article. Am pretty impressed by how mainstream it has become . Some sent this to me. A grease money script to do real time search integration with Google - http://www.facesaerch.com/blog...
- Bindu Reddy
Like this? Here's an add-on I have on my browser:http://flickr.com/photos.... I get videos, Twitter results (they're at the bottom, I don't think you can see them in the photo), but at the top you can see how I can get results from other social media sites too.
- Captain Bubbles
neat.. do you use it often? Does it slow your searches down?
- Bindu Reddy
Yeah, I use it all the time, no noticeable lag on my searches. I did learn something new about it. It's tied to only one Gmail account it seems. I was initially in a biz account and it wasn't there. Switched to another Gmail account and it popped up. Not really smart thinking on the developer's part.
- Captain Bubbles
Oh here is the add-on: http://www.webmynd.com/html... I don't usually have it on to stalk me, so I couldn't figure out which add-on it was. But it has been very useful in finding tweets. You can choose what services are searched in the sidebar and adjust their order.
- Captain Bubbles
*AHEM* I think that's called the #hashtagmafia and according to them "All your hashtags are belong to us" | I wouldn't cross them. They have an army. http://tr.im/theFamily ;)
- iamkhayyam
sofarsoshawn -- #hashtags are at the very earliest stage of development; sort of like the earliest days of email and IP addresses. Universal #hashtag standards will eventually crystallize, I think. In many cases, they will replace email addresses.
- Sean McBride
I don't think they'll ever replace email addresses because of the mechanism in how they work, could you imagine how nasty they're gonna get when corporations begin using them for contacts? In my old IT dept of 2 we had at least about 20 email accounts for different functions.
- alphaxion
Wow, I haven't even got that far yet, let's say I notate "#Aristotle's Material cause" within a paragraph, doing that I know the whole paragraph then relates to Aristotle's Material Cause. Cuz yes sometimes you do forget to make nice neat outlines & titles
- sofarsoShawn
alphaxion: picure this (without the braces) {#dannyboyle1msg Congratulations on winning Academy awards for best picture and best director.} I just sent an email to Danny Boyle without knowing his email address. Do you follow? The tag maps to the email address for the most famous Danny Boyle in the world, which is held in a database in which many email addresses are kept private. Or: #twitterwishlist this is a message to the Twitter developers. (One can send these email messages from any social media site.)
- Sean McBride
sofarsoshawn -- do you teach philosophy? :)
- Sean McBride
of course, that's guessing the correct tag.. what of a person with as common a name as "Chris Johnson". No, it can't beat the simplicity of domain.TLD. No need to cache the tag (bit before the @ in emails) because all you need to deliver is the root address. Also, it's adding a layer of abstraction that is so open to abuse - who gets to keep this database? how often is it updated? how is it replicated? why bother when DNS is already there? How would you handle error messages?
- alphaxion
no, hashtags are a good way of tracking and highlighting info, very bad way of delivering messages and totally superfluous. Email as it is is broken, we don't need any more open and abusable systems as hashtagging is. Sadly I don't think there is a way we can beat email for its simplicity, they've been looking for the best part of 15 to 20 years!
- alphaxion
The 1 in #dannyboyle1 is referring to the most famous Danny Boyle on the planet. #dannyboylemovies might also work. What's the point? One can quickly send a message to many parties around the world from any social media system and without knowing specific email addresses. People will *pay* to use such a system -- wait and see.
- Sean McBride
#alphaxionfriendfeedmsg hello, dude. // You would decide to which email address this message is automatically delivered, and it might be hidden from the public.
- Sean McBride
as I said, how would the infrastructure work? it's easy to say "hashtags will replace email" but try to think on how you'd implement that. Also, what may seem logical to you might mean something totally different to another person (symantics ;) ). #dannyboyle1 to me just looks like someone who didn't get in quick enough to get #dannyboyle. Also, how would that data be passed on? how is it any better than the current method of SMTP relays?
- alphaxion
than there's the issue of traffic - imagine the horrific flow of spam that would relate to people resubmitting messages with hashtags, how would you combat an even greater flow of spam than email already gets? Also, how would you tell the difference between a search hashtag and one linked to an email address? which also means you've not replaced email, you've just opened it up to more messages than ever /golfclap
- alphaxion
urgh.. such a horrible addressing scheme. Is it any better than me@alphaxion.com? or bitbucket@alphaxion.com? email addresses are structured so you can understand it better. [tag]@[domain].[tld] gives you so much more info as to what is going on than #alphaxionspamclearinghouse. How would you implement things such as relay restriction so people can't flood someones mailbox off the net?
- alphaxion
#hashtags won't replace email addresses; they will supplement them. The 1 convention (or whatever conventions) will be defined by fiat, and consonant with consensus culture (like many Internet standards and rules). A central global company will be established to manage hashtags (like domain names) and their mappings to (often private) email addresses.
- Sean McBride
there would be no idea whether or not you've just sent a message to someone or made tracking an event/person/whatever easier for indexing. If I typo a hashtag there's nothing to inform me that my efforts are to be noticed beyond my reviewing and then correcting myself.
- alphaxion
The main advantage of hashtags over email addresses is that one will be able to make a reasonably good guess about the correct hashtag to get a message to a recipient, without visiting any email directories or opening up a mail reader. Really fast, simple and ubiquitous.
- Sean McBride
I don't see it working, email runs better than hashtags ever hope to for the purpose of delivering messages. For indexing & helping to track something or someone, sure they're already working out brilliantly & I do see there being a greater cross referencing of them in social sites. But messaging is something they're simply not up to the job of doing. Too convoluted, too hard to police/manage & totally redundant over & above the systems already in place. hashtags to email translation would suffocate in spam
- alphaxion
I disagree. This is going to happen. You need to start thinking outside the existing categories and structures of messaging. Email is so last century for much of the messaging we do. Much too cumbersome and clunky.
- Sean McBride
I did say that it is broken - on the mail server I used to manage we had a legitimate mail rate of about 1% of all messages. Looking at your suggestion of hashtags from a systems perspective it is doomed to failure cause it's worse than emails. They've been searching for a replacement since the 90's, but it remains because it is still the best system around. I hope you're right that hashtags will replace it, but I'm afraid it just doesn't stack up when you look at it. I've given you reasons why.
- alphaxion
Again: not replace; *supplement*. It just needs to work well enough to make it useful. Call it instant messaging with fuzzy addressing to anyone in the world.
- Sean McBride
Again, how would you police it? what kind of server daemons are required to parse, check the entry against the "database" and then inform the sender that they failed, especially when there's no real return address? Would you pay for the bandwidth wasted with millions of spam that would be generated. I sure as hell wouldn't link my email address to a hashtag and I don't know of any sane person that would.
- alphaxion
alphaxion -- if you have a public email address, you have already left yourself wide open to spammers. I don't understand your point. And many smart spammers can guess your email address even when you make an effort to keep it private.
- Sean McBride
I've questioned your prediction on an infrastructure level, a user level (it's not easier to guess a tag or decern what it means), a symantic level (how do you tell the difference between a search or a message hashtag?) and on a pure abuse level. could you imagine the flood when you mix it with things like retweets? You'd be making messaging so much harder, I'd simply block anything coming from a hashtag on my spamfilter and never have them pollute. The provider of hashtag messaging would be blacklisted.
- alphaxion
I'm with you on the propagation of hashtags for the purpose of indexing and searching across multiple sites, but for messaging it's a dead end and a waste of bandwidth. How about the most simple part of message sending - error handling. How would you handle the failure of delivery of your hashtag message and inform the sender? could it tell a typo from a search tag? what if the link between hashtag database server and email address is broken? what about errors coming from the SMTP server?
- alphaxion
yup political philosophy, but the logic is there
- sofarsoShawn
alphaxion -- you're too bogged down in small technical details and missing the big picture, I think. For instance, a company/service might specialize in scraping and collecting social media for messages like this (without the braces) {#friendfeedwishlist please provide a list view of Friendfeed posts} and forwarding them to whatever email address Friendfeed chooses. You are making this...
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- Sean McBride
@Sean exactly why it works so good with informal notation: you can put the hashtag anywhere in the paragraph and it still supplies the telos/expanans as to what the para consists of
- sofarsoShawn
But a system will live or die by how it is implemented. What you are suggesting will die on its arse. You're totally avoiding any talk on how a system is implemented and giving out generic "it'd be good if this happened" dreams. As someone with nearly 10 years of experience running infrastructure like this I'm telling you, as a means of message delivery it will fail.
- alphaxion
alphaxion -- I can remember a time when many leading information experts insisted that I was quite stupid to believe that the Internet, HTML, the World Wide Web, hypertext, hypermedia, search engines, etc. would develop into world revolutionary technologies. I've never gone wrong in trusting my intuitions, instincts and imagination. Where there is a strong vision, the technology will catch up to implement it.
- Sean McBride
sofarshawn -- right; that's the beauty thing about ultra-simple semantic markup; you can do it on the fly with an elementary text editor, and without much thought. But one acquires enormous data mining leverage. #hashtags are probably the absolute most simple convention for adding semantic markup to documents and document elements. One can't get more minimal. Minimalism rocks.
- Sean McBride
thing is, those technologies you have mentioned had been brewing away for years - I remember using BBS services and IRC in the 90's and thinking "this is gonna be big.. but it needs improve and evolve first". Much of what we use today can be directly mapped to older technologies (forums spawning from newsgroups for example). But messaging via hashtagging is not one of them. You keep avoiding technical discussion and replacing it with vague replies and dreams.
- alphaxion
What's vague about suggesting that brief messages can be marked up with #hashtags that can be standardized, scraped, collected, mapped and forwarded to email addresses?
- Sean McBride
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL gangster geeks! Never thought I'd see the day!
- Adriana
@Adriana: Phear the geekstas, j0 ;D
- Daniel Bruce
alphaxion: this is what I am thinking about: what if I could address messages and notes from my favorite text editor to any destination on the Internet using simple #hashtags? I know, I'm just dreaming.
- Sean McBride
"NEW YORK – An artist who created a famous image of Barack Obama before he became president sued The Associated Press on Monday, asking a judge to find that his use of an AP photo in creating the poster did not violate copyright law."
- Jauder Ho
from Bookmarklet
Watching the tweets about this on Twitter Search, I am disturbed by the level of misunderstanding about what constitutes fair use. The following is what I have been able to find so far.
- Jauder Ho
1. Fair use is not a right, it is an "affirmative defense" against copyright infringement and has to meet a strict set of criteria in order to be used. http://bit.ly/S3W6
- Jauder Ho
2. Idee did an analysis of the photograph and concluded that the picture used was virtually identical i.e. it is likely the Fairey image was traced and not an interpretation. http://bit.ly/10YJa
- Jauder Ho
3. Fairey is not too happy when others parody his work. There has to be a consistent ruling. Fairey can not have it both ways. http://bit.ly/2V0Dc0
- Jauder Ho
4. It is not clear that the AP has copyright over the image as Mannie Garcia was a "temporary hire". Work for hire may apply here depending on what paperwork, if any that Garcia signed. From an interview with Mannie, "I was a temporary hire, filling in for a staffer at the AP. It is my understanding that I was neither a freelancer nor a staffer, but rather a temporary hire. I have never been an AP staff employee, and no, I have never signed an AP contract." http://bit.ly/ejFN
- Jauder Ho
Great analysis. If, indeed, Garcia falls under traditional 'work for hire' status, that image is AP's, plain and simple. And if it's AP's image, as far as I'm concerned, Fairey's a freeloader.
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
Just looking at the comments on Twitter, I see quite a few people rooting for Fairey because he is being perceived as "the little guy". Unfortunately, that is not the right reason to base judgement on. It is important to protect intellectual property in a reasonable and consistent manner.
- Jauder Ho
5. Apparently, the Fair Use Project @ Stanford has decided to represent Fairey and is now soliciting a "fair use" case. http://bit.ly/11QUvq
- Jauder Ho
6. "Affirmative defense means that, in litigation on copyright infringement, the defendant bears the burden of raising and proving that his use was "fair" and not an infringement. " http://bit.ly/S3W6
- Jauder Ho
7. Somewhat related: Creative Commons and Photography. Read the various scenarios. http://bit.ly/L691s
- Jauder Ho