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Leo Laporte
Leo Laporte
I haven't visited Twitter since the new Friendfeed UI came out.
April 8, 2009 - Comment - Share
i have.... if you look at my profile...u see lots of fail whales :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Most of this time you couldn't even if you wanted to. This... is... FAIL WHALE! - Joe Kavanagh
I know what you're saying Leo! I have Tweedeck running in the background just just I need to hear that little alert noise... ;-P - JR
like someone said.. that fail whale page should be monetised! - Rob Sellen :o)
Been more on twitter since the new friendfeed UI came out. - Daniel van Moll
daniel.. why??? - Rob Sellen :o)
where mark.. here or there? - Rob Sellen :o)
it's definitely pretty. now i just need to get all of my buddies to move over to yet *another* service. ugh! - redboy
show them how you expand on conversations from them other places here ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Welcome back, Leo :) - Mona Nomura
It's too bad more people (in my circle of friends) don't use friendfeed. Then again, they don't use Twitter either. Everyone is on Facebook tho :-/ - Doug Jones
Good for you, Leo. Be one of US! - Josh Haley
I DO agree with you there Leo Laporte.. me either.. and the new Seesmic Desktop client didn't help either.. friendfeed ftw - @LarsenTweet
I haven't visited Twitter since I figured out how to post via IRC. - Pete Brown
My Twitter activity has dropped as well. What's ironic is that I'm hearing about a lot of Twitter issues since the new FF beta... very strange - Bwana ☠
I'm with you all, the FF realtime feed has almost completely replaced twitter.com for me. Wild - Jeff Carter
I'd bet the Twitter issues are being caused by all the FriendFeeder's dumping their content back into Twitter through the API. Just a guess though. - The Griff
mark... yeah add filters ;o) use them. :o) if not following bwana follow him... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
it all updates live time now anyway. :o) but yeah use filters ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I think in a lot of ways Twitter is *too* minimalist. I appreciate at least one level of comment threading that almost every other site supports. Also, sometimes I like to be wordy and don't want to post everything in 160 character chunks. - Doug Jones
@Rob: I get all interesting posts delivered to Tweetdeck anyway (because ppl crosspost) and always used FF for discussions and not "regular updates".. I'm pretty happy with Facebook, being for close friends, FriendFeed being for discussions and Twitter for everything else (like recently spending time with my friend, the whale) :) - Daniel van Moll
But Leo, you are a Social Media Butterfly. ;) - Robert Hafer
@Bwana: That's true! Since FF beta release on monday the "whale-rate" increased significant. Twitter recently disabled the "delete" function for tweets -- maybe to ease server load (see elections 2008, where they did this, too). - Daniel van Moll
Am learning how to use FF. Pretty good I think :) - mahjongmi
@Doug: Same here.. But I'm pretty fine with my "real life friends" being on Facebook and everyone else being on the twitters/friendfeed.. especially since the new Tweetdeck made monitoring Twitter and Facebook so easy. - Daniel van Moll
I wish I could "automatically" have all of my twitter friends' posts show up in ff. I've imported all of my twitter friends who are on ff, into ff, but for those twitter friends who are NOT on ff, is what I'm missing, and forcing me to still watch twitter a bit. Any good solutions to that? - Dan Nimtz
This is interesting? Will this be the new twitter? I would like some customization too. - Disney By The Numbers
what i am waiting for Dan.. that way I can stop using twitter full stop :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm maybe I should just invest a little more time into "learning friendfeed" (especially lists). In general it has everything Twitter got plus a better visualization of discussions.. do you all use the website or are there tools like Tweetdeck out yet? - Daniel van Moll
use the website dan ;o) how can we all not improve it via feedback if we dont use it ;o) these people ACT on feedback ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob: Hmm sounds reasonable =) - Daniel van Moll
Figured out how to see non FF Twitter friends on my feed...may not work for protected updates tho. - The Griff
Griff.. care to share? i got a room with all my twitter replies going to it.. but really want a stream with ALL my twitter in it, so i just reply from here. - Rob Sellen :o)
Posted it to my feed. Basically just "Create a Feed", make it private if you want. Then add the twitter service pointing to your (unprotected) friends. Can do one feed per friend to make it clearer or one big feed if you want. Still checking whether it'll work for protected friends...thinking it might since you are already signed into Twitter from FF. - The Griff
The funny thing is that I read this while listening to the Gillmor Gang from last weekend which was all about Friendfeed. - Michael K Pate
Leo, do you think that will continue? - Ed
I'm visiting it a lot less, too. - Robert Scoble
Leo, are you automatically creating imaginary friends for people that are on Twitter but not on FriendFeed? Anyone know of something automated for that? - Jason Carter
Same here. Now if only FriendFeed had a native iPhone App. But Nambu is pretty good. - Adam Nieto
thats what I already do griff.. i dont get the whole twitter stream.. ;o( - Rob Sellen :o)
I did once... to follow someone who was only on twitter. But this place is home now. - Aaron
Trying out friendfeed for the first time... seems pretty cool - Danny Dunn
I think I might just make this my home too! - Kevin J Hatton
welcome to all you new users. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Really glad to have you over here Leo. It really is a superior medium. - Thomas Hawk
Liking the iPhone UI though a native app will be nice. Tweetie sets the bar for Twitter clients let's hope for something similar on the iPhone. But I would like a desktop app too. - Ken Knight
I'll visit Twitter just to see if people have replied to me in Twitter. - John E. Bredehoft
Honnestly, I don't understand. You've just "broadcasted" this message, Leo. Where's your contribution to this discussion? Live, real-time or not... where's the difference (to you)? - directeur
Griff: Not clear on what you're doing and/or getting out of the feed you made. Rob's question seems to still stand? What the goal is: Have all those that you follow on twitter to be feeding in (as FF friends or as invisible friends) to a single feed which would then represent everything that you would see via the twitter web page. Not necessarily real elegant, but less frustrating that fail whales ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've looked at Twitter more since Beta came out than the previous 30 days. - Jason (not an Argonaut)
Twitter may be a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. - Louis Gray
I was forced there as the corporate firewall blocked out friendfeed :S - Sanne Buurma
++++ louis. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Now that I've set up Friend Feed. I'm agreeing with Leo - Gunnyman ™ from Alert Thingy
welcome to you new users... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
judd... just use ths ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I can't completely cut the cord from the twitters. Way too many friends there that will NEVER use friendfeed. - Sullivan
I initially had one private feed setup for all of my non-FF Twitter friends. I've switched to having a private feed set per non-FF Twitter friend. Each time a friend posts on Twitter it comes into my FF stream. I can then reply and by checking the box send an @ reply back to Twitter. Hope that answers the question @guruvan. The problem with having the single feed is that people become unidentifiable. I'm sure an enhancement could be made to FF to fix that. Think the 1:1 is better though. - The Griff
that is really awesome!! FF is kicking ass! woo hoo! - Susan Beebe
The new FF Ui might very well be the perfect excuse to stop visiting twitter. - Pedro Fonseca
I have, but I started using FriendFeed more after the UI change - Cristian
I generally like the new UI but, I have to say, I'm getting burned out on the long comment threads here on FriendFeed. I just don't have time for it and I'm getting better information density on Twitter. Less is more for me. - Mike Doeff
Leo is in the bag :-D - Dobromir Hadzhiev
It would be nice if FF implemented a Twitter client using the API and automatically made non-FF users imaginary. - Peter Warnock
How about opening up a method in the API to create imaginary friends and let the community build some tools to automate porting friends from other services? - Brian Stoner
Then why is it all up and down FF, I see posts from you from Twitter, Leo? Am I missing something? - Steve Austin
So when I see the twitter icon next to one of his posts, that doesn't mean that it was first posted on twitter? I'm not trying to be accusatory or anything, just trying to learn... - Steve Austin
I second this motion. Tired of recreating friend groups. - Bryan Griffith
Is Twitter up? ;-) - zeroinfluencer
It seems as though most people on Twitter INSIST on posting the very same tweets here, too. So what's the point of reading Twitter again? - Stan Scott
That is the frustration most have. FF consolidates all feeds for all social sites in one location, so redundancy is inevitable.Now if FF incorporated a service like Ping.fm into the site, and build an app to support all mobile phones and appliances you would never have to go anywhere else! ;) - Aaron Friedman
My reaction is that FriendFeed does not really add value over Twitter and other silos. - Scott Royall
That's nothing yet! I haven't ate, drank or slept since the beta came out. I'm gonna sue these FF bastards, mark my words. ;) - Meryn Stol
Scott: really? You clearly have NOT looked very deeply. - Robert Scoble
Twitter never got me, or i never really "got" twitter. I'm much happier here on FF, not really because its real time, but because i find the content and conversations much more interesting. - Lasse Johnsen
Oh and i actually FIND the content and conversations here. - Lasse Johnsen
I have said it before and I'll say it again: How much can you really say in 140 characters anyway? - Meryn Stol
lol - Rachael Depp
a few words meryn... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Are you serious? The best part is the simplicity of threading on tweets, and watching quality content in your network rise to the top. - Kevin Elliott
I'm unimpresed. Think about it. You have to have an account on every service you want to aggregate. Each of those accounts has to be maintained. If you don't have those sources, you have a very dull FF account. - Scott Royall
Scott, you can participate on FF without using any external services. Just comment, and post messages (and links) yourself. It's very much like Twitter then. Only way better UI. A UI which is impossible to duplicate on the Twitter platform atm. - Meryn Stol
You want imaginary accounts that generates imaginary content? Thats totally Web 5.0! - Lasse Johnsen
Yeah? :-) Good for you :-). I was enjoying your episode on the xserve today. - Richard A.
What is the goal of Social Networking? To provide a way to interact with people who interest us, right? So why do we keep re-inventing it? Each time we do, we have to rebuild our commnities. - Scott Royall
Scott: because we keep figuring out new things to do with it. Yelp is a social network for restaurant reviews. Upcoming.org is a social network for events. Friendfeed is needed because Twitter doesn't do enough. I'm sure there'll be others that will come along that will compete with friendfeed, too. - Robert Scoble
My take: Something like FF ends up accidentally doing the opposite of what it intends by creating yet another refuge for discerning users to flee to. - Scott Royall
Scott: ff is doing something other social networks have proven incapable of doing so far. First, it's live. Second, it has filtering that Twitter will never be able to match (Twitter doesn't have the metadata that friendfeed has). Third, friendfeed has a much better conversation surface than Twitter does (or facebook). Fourth, friendfeed's rooms (er, feeds) are a place where you can do private business much better than on any other network. Fifth, friendfeed's direct messaging features actually work. - Robert Scoble
Finally, I just saw my fifth fail whale of the day over on Twitter. Friendfeed hasn't failed for me EVER (it was down for an hour quite a few months ago but is 100 times more reliable than Twitter and faster than Facebook). - Robert Scoble
Paul: yup, there's a lot of things that Twitter does that friendfeed doesn't. It's why I stay on both too. - Robert Scoble
Paul, you can receive FF updates via IM, would that be a viable option? - FFing Enigma
Yes Robert, you duplicate effort, which was my point. - Scott Royall
Scott: there's a tax to pay and I paid it. Yes! :-) - Robert Scoble
hope you don't mind me using this thread in my blog post today : http://www.techsoomer.com/friendf... - Kevin Pruett
Robert, social networking is a major part of your life. I think most people just fit it in. - Scott Royall
Scott: there are more and more people who make this stuff a major part of their lives. You've gotta see the engagement stats for Facebook. Off the charts. My wife is addicted. - Robert Scoble
Kevin, go for it. - Scott Royall
@leo et al: I haven't visited FriendFeed since the new TweetDeck came out ;-) - Jason Goldberg
Jason: are you on http://beta.friendfeed.com ? Tweetdeck is a lot less interesting than it used to be. - Robert Scoble
I am glad you are accessible to us fans now :) You do amazing work. I am glad your not bound by tech tv any more and can do what ya like ^_^ - Stephen
Same here.. the instant FF released it's new UI. Twitter is acting like Cry baby with Fail Whales http://is.gd/rGcJ - Sardar Mohkim Khan
It's all Rob's fault that twitter is being ignored by me. Is it coincidence with the new ff ui? They say that things happen in perfect timing, when they're supposed to. - Myrna
It seems to me there are two sides to social media: personal and professional. Just when I figured Twitter would win the professional side Friendfeed beta comes out. I have to wonder if the beta will cause the services' roles to switch. Then again why would anyone but close friends care about my Netflix queue, etc? Perhaps that's what filtering will help but FF needs some templates. - The Griff
please pardon me, but new UI is terrible :P I pray God twitter will never change. - Ac0n (former Franc)