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John: I remembered the flintstones' infant daughter Pebbles Flintstone after your comment. She was using a phone like this Stone, wasn't she? : ) - Erhan Erdogan

Still: I have iPod Touch. Haha-haa! - Kristian Salonen

Which proves, people want less features, not more! LOL - Victor Ganata

Yeah, I'd rather have a stone than an iPhone. - Alex Scoble

Stones are also more theft deterrent. - Shawn Farner

Stone is cheaper - Morton Fox

bütün fuar gg oldu :) - Ömer Enis

Hey, there is a huge period of time that we now call the Stone Age. I doubt we will ever have an era named the iPhone Age. - Victor Ganata

Victor: Maybe Apple Age? - Erhan Erdogan

Still: the Apple Age 1976-2008. The Stone Age 3 million BC-3000 BC. Steve Jobs ain't gonna be around *that* long (barring major innovations in life prolongation that I'm sure he'd be able to afford.) - Victor Ganata

When they came out they were hot ✓ ✓ - Benedikt Koehler

For most situations, I prefer the iPhone. I get really bad reception with my rock.. and it's hard to check my stocks and get directions to the pizza joint with it. But it works great as a makeshift mallet for pounding tent stakes when camping! My iPhone's a little to fragile for that. At least my iPhone can double as a flashlight in a pinch! - Jackson D. Carson

OK. I will downgrade to Stone. - Leon Ho

This is classic!! and I'm an iPhone fan!! - Bronwyn

:)) haha - Farzad

Worse is better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ".. limited but exceptionally simple to use may be "better" than that is more comprehensive but harder to use ..." stone is better ;) - Turkey banned Bloggum :(

I'm sorry for this post, I wanna delete it now. :-) I had an iPhone gift and I'm very happy with my new Apple. She is really better than stone. http://friendfeed.com/e... :-) - Erhan Erdogan

...because it has a touchscreen, right? O:-) - Marcos Marado

not touch..multi touch :) - Ömer Zahit Kara

Can knock you out when hit with it: ✓ X - Martha

Too funny! I have to leave a comment when I my laugh turns heads - Rick Bucich

I want to see stone 3.0 when it comes out. - Phil Boiarski

Stil choose the stone. Until someone buy me an iPhone. - İbrahim Uzun [ j ]

Tesekkür! wunderful :-) - stefan m. seydel/sms ;-)

You can build a wall with a stone. - Martha

straight lulz. Wake the fuck up apple. OOOOOH COPY&PASTE COMING SOON!!! - LarchOye

How big (Kb) is a MMS message on average? - Johnny Worthington

I actually don't miss copy and paste. - Victor Ganata

Good question Johnny. Without an attachment, I think they're <5kb. After that, it depends on your attachment I guess! - Will Higgins™

An average MMS (according to Nokia) is 50KB. I pay 50c per MMS. Therefore I am paying 1c/KB or $10.24/MB or $10,485.76 per GB - Johnny Worthington

for mhmazidi - amir72

This image should be updated!! Please tick MMS for iPhone 3G : ) - Erhan Erdoğan

Also one-way video call - Ozkan Altuner

Rock solid build quality ✓ X - Sriks7

stone is not fragile, but iphone is. so better to use a stone. - elodeon

Güzel kıyaslama:) - Murat DEMİR

Jess Lee

a cat is fine too - http://arbroath.blogspot.com/2009...

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heehee - Jeanette Bosman

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excuse me, does it look like a cat? :-P - Dominic Yang

Btw, this is a reference to a strange NSFW 4chan meme called "A cat is fine too". - Jess Lee

Could you explain that meme for us? - Andrew C

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/A_cat_i...? - ⓞnor

You can also just see the original "A cat is fine too" manga that the meme is based on. http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006... - Jess Lee

Oh man, my poor innocent brain. - Andrew C

Jess is my only connection to all these fascinating things in the world. <bows/> - Daniel Dulitz from iPhone

That comic has to be one of the weirdest things I have ever seen. Even now, the internet amazes me still. - Bret Taylor

DeWitt Clinton

Amazon.com: Mac OS X version 10.6 Snow Leopard: Software - http://www.amazon.com/Mac-ver...

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$29.00 pre-order for OS X 10.5 Leopard users. Via http://www.macrumors.com/2009.... Ordered. - DeWitt Clinton from Bookmarklet

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Sure thing for me. This will be the most polished OS in history. - Meryn Stol

Also amused that the "What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item?" indicates that 50% chose the Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade at $119.99. - DeWitt Clinton

One-clicked! - Kevin Fox

Amazon Prime ftw. I can't even express how much I love Amazon Prime. - DeWitt Clinton

Emma

Grizzly Bear Cubs -- National Geographic Photo of the Day - http://photography.nationalgeo...

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If you're gonna be a cub, be a grizzly - RAPatton from iPhone

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nice - روح الله مهدوی

This will be on a Hallmark card soon I guess... - Daan

Robert: Most definitely and by the looks of this photo, ALWAYS have a friend to be grizzly with... :)) - Emma

LOL @ Dann ... and I can already see so many captions!! - Emma

Yay! We just totally ate that hiker that mom found! - Internet's Tad

x_x - Anna Haro

That's an amazing picture of the grizzly bear cubs. Simply timeless! - James Stratford

Hutch Carpenter to Hutch's feed, building43

First impressions of Google Wave | Enterprise Web 2.0 | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcl...

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"The end result is something that comes across as a distinctly sophisticated Web application clearly made up of many elements that sometimes behave somewhat unpredictably precisely because it’s designed to be highly extensible and freeform. Admittedly, my experience was with the developer sandbox for extensions, but this is exactly the intent of Google Wave: to be the center of integrated communication and collaboration in a dynamic and immersive yet safe experience." - Hutch Carpenter from Bookmarklet

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My expectation: cool for the geeks; overly complex and featured for the masses. - Chris Rogers

Chris: that is what they said about PC's in 1977. So? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Agree with Chris for at least 3 years of evolution. But someone may figure out how to remove some of the complexity. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

The principles of Google Wave will find their way into our web app experience (on the consumer web and in business apps). Remember, this is just getting going. It's quite early. - Hutch Carpenter

Robert: and PCs are a lot different now than they were in 1977. PCs from 1977 were too complicated for users and were never adopted by the masses. Google Wave won't either; its descendants will. - Chris Rogers

How much you wanna bet that Microsoft takes those features and embeds them into SharePoint one day? - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

How much you wanna bet that MSFT takes the Wave protocol and embeds it into sharepint, rewriting the whole server along the way,too. - Roberto Bonini

Roberto - they'd do well to follow the principles of Google Wave for SharePoint 2013. Whether they actually use the Wave protocol is a different question. - Hutch Carpenter

I'll be interested to see how much of the Google Wave idea Microsoft includes in SharePoint in the future. We continue to see the trend towards SharePoint with the addition of things like the Office ribbon. - Ian Rudy

zsafwan  to zsafwan's feed, The Apple Room, AndroidWorld

Google's Android's market share compares well with Apple's iPhone #Android #iPhone

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(Edit: see my comment below) That must be down to the much more competitive pricing on the G1. The HTC Magic is the same. Vodafone are offering a better deal than I get with my iPhone on O2 for £20 per month less. Tempting! - Martin Bryant

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"At month five, the iPhone had sold around two times as many devices." ...and let's not forget that on top of this, Google is some 16 months behind. - Tim Tyler

the openness is what would do it for me, in spite of my mistrust of google. Although keeping my eye on the other options in the market, such as Nokia's more and more open options - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

this is just *painfully* spun. comparing the iPhone first five months to the G1? for one thing, the G1 shipped with an App Store; the iPhone didn't have one for its first year. *despite* that, the iPhone sold twice as many devices in its first five months. headline should be "Android getting ass kicked by iPhone," not "Android compares well with Apple's iPhone if you cherry pick results, conflate fraction-of-a-percent browser share with market share, and wish real hard." - Karim

Karim, I agree with you. I have to confess that my comment above was based solely on the headline and graph above (I'm out and about on my iPhone - no time to read much in detail). Browser share by months after launch is a ridiculous metric. - Martin Bryant

Jeremiah Owyang

I had dinner with Scoble and Louis Gray, they both said that Friendfeed was Facebook's R&D Department. Interesting, I think there's some truth to it.

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++Abby - Amber, Random Time Lord

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exactly - andy brudtkuhl

also would have loved to have sat in on that dinner - andy brudtkuhl

Yup. It's so true. Just so FF sticks around. - Roberto Bonini

Loved for Abby's comment. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

+1 Abby - Yolanda

Does Zuckerberg have an account here? - Hutch Carpenter

geee I remember saying something like that just after their last announcement http://www.inquisitr.com/19315... - Steven Hodson

And Facebook is FriendFeed's lead generation and user training hub. Get the lite version on Facebook and graduate to FriendFeed when you've had your fill of Mob Wars. - AJ Kohn

I guess that makes us their beta testers. - Todd Hoff

For the record, Scoble said it, and I agreed it had merit. (Credit where credit is due) - Louis Gray

yup it's always nice to see credit going where credit is due - Steven Hodson

After next week's FB release, not sure what FF's lasting appeal is? I guess somewhat more open in terms of API? - Michael Broukhim

Some Truth? They look at what works on FriendFeed and implement it on their service. - Nicholas James

FF appeal? ... it's not FB - Steven Hodson

Michael: More open, and less crap. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Hmmmm. Two things popped into my head when I read this. 1) It is a repeat of every "walled garden" vs. open feature race. The walled garden believes it can hold off the open by having all the features they have (I will, however, grant that Facebook is opening slowly). 2) It is impossible for any one service to out innovate the open market from behind forever. What I mean is, once you lose the innovation advantage (which Facebook CLEARLY has) it is only a matter of time before you aren't innovative at all. - Brian Roy

HAHAHA - Erhan Erdogan

Nicely said, Brian! +1 to you. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Excellent point Brian... It basically reiterates what Abby said - Facebook has built a "me too" business.. but crazily has made it succeed. How long can that last? - andy brudtkuhl

Andy - but they weren't me too. They were miles ahead of everyone for quite a while there. I think they got to wrapped up on becoming THE social platform ala salesforce and lost track of the target (cause the target is moving... rapidly). The platform worked for Salesforce because the market for CRM is uber stable... very little "disruptive innovation". You can platform that. And by the way - regaining the innovation advantage isn't unheard of... they just need to go to what's next... - Brian Roy

Brian - they were more than "me too".. the original idea was a spinoff of a similar idea ("facemash") that was already being used on Harvard campus. Their roots have been built as me too and they have constantly been stealing ideas since. Not that there's anything wrong with that - we wouldn't have Microsoft, Apple, or Google today without the stealing (or purchasing) of ideas - andy brudtkuhl

Brian / Andy -> Microsoft has done pretty well borrowing the best features / ideas of other software companies to maintain its position based on the network effects at work in OS adoption... seems like FB could follow a similar model to keep FriendFeed / Twitter at bay, no? They do have a 180million user lead! - Michael Broukhim

@Michael - I can see that happening with FB. They are in an interesting position to where they can constantly piss off their user base yet maintain growth (sound like Microsoft to anyone?). But there is obviously room for all of them (and more). More power users prefer to be here or Twitter than deal with the kludge that is Facebook. - andy brudtkuhl

Switching cost. What is the switching cost to move from Facebook to Twitter/FriendFeed/etc Also - one of the major reasons for MS being able to hold that position was their dominance in corporations. People didn't want a computer that "worked different" or the had to "learn to use" at home. - Brian Roy

+ity ++Abby - Micah Wittman

Andy - Everything is derivative... OK not everything but I'll bet you can't name 5 truly NEW ideas/products. Innovation isn't invention of the new - it is a new way of solving a problem - often by combining ideas from disparate fields/etc. The iPod wasn't the first MP3 player... it was a huge leap forward in the innovation of mp3 players. - Brian Roy

@Brian yea now you are getting into the whole network effect theory and how it relates to switching costs. I think increasing data portability between systems is lowering the cost - but Facebook is fairly protective because it wants to own your data and not let you take it with you - unlike other services like FriendFeed and Twitter. Unfortunately (fortunate for us) the mass of FB users are oblivious to other networks like FF and Twitter so switching costs become irrelevant then. - andy brudtkuhl

Wow... just re-read this thread. Great conversation. You guys are smart. - Brian Roy

@brian agreed.. although there is a difference between innovating a current idea and blatantly copying a current idea. One could argue that FB has blatantly copied FF while not adding any value to the original idea - thus not innovating but copying. Apple did it right with the iPod - they took an idea and created a new experience. Facebook just took an idea. - andy brudtkuhl

Sometimes when you have the customers, as FB does, you copy the better features of other companies so you can give those customers what they expect/want - Francine Hardaway from twhirl

@Francine you are right on.. and that's the beauty of competition. Innovations turn into commodities and force new innovation - andy brudtkuhl

If Friendfeed fails to be aggressive about lifting the best features of Twitter and Facebook that work, it risks losing its mojo. Facebook and Twitter won't hesitate to lift from Friendfeed. Chances are, only one of these three services will be left standing -- the one that steals most copiously from the other two. (Or perhaps an entirely different service that comes out of nowhere will... more... - Sean McBride

LOL - Mona Nomura from fftogo

Scoble nailed it with that statement :) Right he is! - Susan Beebe

They're all with originality, but lack that Steve Jobs management insight and obsessiveness necessary to driving beyond the revolutionary stage to the conquering stage of self-perpetuating stability. - Douglas Hopkins

Robert Scoble

One good thing about doing lists of FriendFeeders ... I'm learning all about who I'm missing! The list is getting better and better by the minute and so is my feed. Thank you and sorry to those cool people I left off originally.

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I should be on it. I invented sitting on my arse watching TV. I was the first person to do that. - john conroy

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I think there are so many great people on friendfeed that a few are gonna fall through the cracks :) heck i just posted a message and bang I was on the list hehe - (jeff)isageek

I do absolutely nothing except that which is awesome. OK, not really. - Josh Haley

You don't have enough Mark's on the list :) - Mark Krynsky

Yeah, you list has a lot of people who don't FF. - Ryan

Yes robert, you forgot me for example :) - Alemsah Ozturk

Alemsah: probably because a lot of your posts aren't in English. - Robert Scoble

And you forgot Spin... - Mona Nomura

But if you were to add another Mark I'd be a good choice. "Web producer for X PRIZE Foundation and author of Lifestream Blog" would make for a nice description :) - Mark Krynsky

I'll add spin when I get home. Same with you Mark. - Robert Scoble

By splitting my peeps into lists that do not overlap, I get a lot more good stuff floating to the top of each list. But I have to click on several separate lists, so my clicking muscles are getting tired. - Laura Norvig

You want to see a grown man cry?? - Charlie Anzman

Robert, I am loving the lists so much, I have almost ceased real twitter usage (letting FF and my blog plugin handle the rest)... - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

رابرت پس بروبچ ايروني چي؟ من؟ ميلاد؟ دكتر مجيدي؟ اتل متل ؟ فواد ؟ احسان گور به گور شده؟؟ :)) - mhmazidi

Wow, I totally didn't notice that Mark Krynsky wasn't on the list. Robert, if you have not already done so, I think Charlie Anzman deserves a spot as well. I did not check the list again, but I remember you missing Susan Beebe as well. And I almost forgot, thanks for adding me to the list :) - Rob Diana

Another Mark for the list would be Mark Dykeman of broadcastingbrain.com and a contributor at Mashable. Also, how are you coming up with the descriptions of the people? That is a cool little addition. - Rob Diana

Great list! Thanks. Anyway you could time stamp new ones? I don't want to miss anyone. - WiseYoda (aka Patrick)

Nice... At least now I know who's who. - Winston Teo

دکتر خودتو به رابرت چی کار داری، حالا ما یه بار گفتیم ماست فقط ماست گوسفند. میلادم گفت پرسپولیس سرور استقلاله و رابرتو پرسپولیسی کرد. تو چی کار کردی واسه رابرت؟ - فوهاد صا.

Robert Please Repeat After Me : PERSPOLIS SARVARE ESTEGHLALE (it mean perspolis fc is better than esteghlal fc ) ضمنا بعدش بگو داور دقت کن - Mil∂d

اگزوز خاور شیر سماور ... داور دقت کن :)))) - Milad.p

I'm not sad that I didn't make the list. Nope, not at all... *sniff* ;-) - Josh Bancroft

Robert how do you follow topics at the moment? At a certain point it gets hard to follow more friends and at that point i'd think you need to narrow focus? (or not?) - Steven Livingstone-Pérez

Josh: I don't know how I missed you. Weblivz: I just refresh FF hundreds of times a day. - Robert Scoble

Rob: most of the descriptions are off the top of my head or from their Twitter bios. - Robert Scoble

Hey Robert: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... :) - Clint Ecker

I listed some Finnish users of FF: http://autiomaa.org/2008... - Daniel Schildt

Daniel I did see your listing. I see many possibilities in FF but need to increase my own activity. Different channels bring both same and new information. There isn't that many people working with all the tools. The same names or IDs appear in Jaiku, Facebook, Twitter, Pownce, FriendFeed, etc. - Helge V. Keitel

just wondering .. did I get lett off? wait if I have to ask I probably know already eh? lol - John Blanton from twhirl

Yeah Robert, I am not techie enough? ;-) Consider me as one of the most techie guys who use FriendFeed oversea. - Leon Ho

@Scoble - Refreshing hundreds of times a day works i guess when it's part of your job, Much harder when you just want to follow "stuff" with limited time. Thanks for replying. - Steven Livingstone-Pérez

weblivz: that's exactly why I created a list with fewer people on it. I have about 200 on the techie list. 3,400 on the main list. - Robert Scoble

*shunned!* I thought I'd make the cut on Scoble's techie list! I thought I talked enough tech to make the grade ;) - Susan Beebe

مزیدی =))) - atalmatal

یادش بخیر سر این پست چقدر خندیدیم - فوهاد صا.

agreed mine too but it takes time - Thomas Power

رابرت جان به این میگیم شخم :))))) یعنی اینتری از اعماق تاریخ بالا آوردن - Mil∂d

Hey I am a normal person!!! BUt I really am insignificant in the Social Media world...for now! - Paul Jones from twhirl

ای رابرت فارسی مه فهمه ؟؟ - MAS

dear scott, farsi (persian) not arabic - فوهاد صا.

عربی چیه مرتیگه اجنبی شیطونه میگه بزنم لهش کنما فواد بزن تو چشش :دی - MAS

می‌گم این رابرت فامیلیلیش اسکول سرخوده به حذف ب :دی برنامه بذاریم اسکولش کنیم رونوشت به میلاد و فواد - Ehsanislav

Robert Scoble

I just gave a talk to about 30 top executives around the world (non tech) and almost none knew about Twitter, Qik, Kyte.

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Can you name some of them? - Chetan Bhawani

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This does not surprise me at all. - Suki Fuller

I'm guessing they do now! - Simon May

Spread the twitter-awareness :) - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

this does not surprise me. i have spent a lot of time in industrial companies and email is the most advanced tech that has traction. can't even get secure sharepoint sites to get traction with execs! - Jeff DiStanlo

welcome to the analogue world ;) - Sascha Pallenberg

Were you surprised? It amazes me how few people (in general) know about these....especially Twitter. - Vinny

I am not surprised. The day these and other such folks get onto social media, social media will be passe ;) - A. Prem Kumar

People don't know about Twitter?! What! - frank barry

Ya i suspect by end of 2009 it will have hit mainstream consciousness, but still obscure now. - Brian Carter

not surprised. even some of my friends in tech doesn't know twitter - AJ Batac

I just can't believe it. Do these people live under a rock? - Happy

It would have been a surprise if they had. Good job Robert is on hand to spread the word. - WorldofHiglet

There was a seminar on social media and communications in Toronto last night and a few people had never heard of Twitter, either. Is it really surprising or are we just to immersed in it? - Bonnie Dean

It took me years to get around to wanting to use Twitter. I read about it regularly at Coding Horror (ex: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...) for at least a year but I just didn't see the point. I finally registered because I wanted to reply to a friend's tweet. I think for a lot of people it's more of a reticence to join social networks than plain technophobia. - Daniel J. Pritchett

that says something doesnt it? - Richard Binhammer

This is not surprising. Recall that John McCain does not even use email. And I am sure most, if not all, of these "top" executives are part of McCain's generation. - Joe Lima

I haven't touched Qik/Seesmic/Kyte because I can't work out the difference. Not surprised most won't have heard of them or Twitter - Luke

Robert, send them an invoice for innovation consulting! ;-) - masa media - Martin

Make a list of top execs who do know about social media. - stefan hyttfors

Not Surprising, I'd consider myself fairly Tech savvy and although i've been registered for ages i only just started Tweeting. Although given the publicity it's had in the last few weeks i'm slightly surprised. - Jamie Vidamour

but i guess they know about Facebook ? well, i think twitter is more for more tech people - Junal Rahman

Do you think their assistants know about those technologies? My understanding of CEO responsibility is that they have to think on a super broad and strategic level. Many of those technologies are about integrating tiny pieces of information into something bigger. Since that's not really their job, I would think those services would be off the CEO's radar until they have an impact at that high level. Right? - David Wynn from fftogo

Our CMO @BestBuyCMO relayed a similar experience at a CMO dinner he was one or two of 10+ who knew about the tools and he certainly was the top user of them. - Ben Hedrington

It's not surprising, if you think about it, but it's still unfortunate. Top executives are hardly "the mainstream" and if they're not in tech or marketing, those types of communication are not foremost in their minds. I know one chief exec. of a Fortune 1000 company who still has his "important" emails (as determined by his assistant) printed out and put on his desk every day. - Robert Clockedile from twhirl

This does not surprise me in the least. Yes, awareness is growing but anyone who assumes that our social media world has "made it' to mainstream is unclear on the concept. - Cathy Brooks from twhirl

I've never expected top executives to have a clue about anything. They're just a figure head for the company. They pay others around them to do the grunt work. - Chris Luckhardt

What a surprise!! Here in Brazil I've asked to my friends and coworkers and nobody knew about Twitter. Well, some of my friends don't even check e-mails account daily... - Flavio Knopp

it goes to show that twitter, kyte, friendfeed, etc... haven't really hit the mainstream yet... user adoption will always be a problem no matter what platform or software is out there. - Dejim Juang

Most of them can't even use email.... - Stuart Murray Walton

What is the point of Twitter, Kyte etc when hundreds of thousands of people are losing their jobs and we are in global economic crisis? Don't these top execs have bigger issues at hand? Are we drinking too much social media coolade in these times? - Andy Oliver

Dejim: I would not consider 30 executives not knowing about Twitter to equate to these services not being in the mainstream. It you ever worked with "top" executives, you'd be amazed by how much "mainstream" knowledge they really lack. - Joe Lima

That's not suprising. I still have to ask "Do you know what Twitter is?" - geekazine from twhirl

I'm doing a Social Media 101 seminar in a few weeks for entrepreneurs who haven't touched linkedin.com, facebook, or twitter. Seminar is full. We'll likely do 2 or 3 more. I'm not surprised at your group's ignorance. - Shelley Cadamy

I'm a publisher in medical technology market data and I continue to be stunned at how much behind the tech curve my audience of medtech companies is. Their rate of adoption of social media, like their adoption of new information technologies, lags at the same rate as physicians, who are traditionally slow to adopt any new technologies other than medical technologies. - Patrick Driscoll

Top *executives*? No surprise there, unless they're *tech* executives. Gates or Dell not knowing would be worrying, but should a boss at Exxon or Rolls-Royce (the aero engine company) know or care any more than we'd know or care about distillate refining or FADEC aero engine controllers? - James

I don't think we are drunk on social media when we say that in spite of the downturn and maybe because of it, we need to look at the enormous possibilities of social media at the very least as a brand loyalty mechanism(ie I am more apt to subscribe to products from companies/ people that I have a more intimate relationship with). - Phillip

The other issue with non tech executives not tuned in is their reluctance to accept ideas that don't have a direct and obvious connection to ROI. I have to admit (and I'm not blowing my horn) that during the pre-internet heydey, I felt like Tom Hanks in "Big" raising my hand to say, "I don't get it". Then, I couldn't understand why website traffic mattered more than revenue. - Patrick Driscoll

Recently, I spoke with a colleague of mine, a university professor of linguistics known as geek. I asked if someone is studying tweets' peculiar language and style from a scientific point of view. "Twitter?" he said, "Microblogging? never heard before". A geek, they say. Well... - PaperDoll

not surprised at all. You may try to ask if they know Firefox - ClubEddy - clubeddy.com

There's a whole tendency in social media toward rapidly accepting what's at the front edge of development, while at the back end, product managers, sales/marketing and other grunts are just struggling to hit their numbers. They don't live and breathe the latest info tool -- they live and breathe their own product. - Patrick Driscoll

OK, I'm hogging the airwaves, but one last point. When I look at new medical technologies emerging in the market, I have to bring in two very important perspectives: the opinion-leading early adopters (docs at universities or highly visible MD-consultants to industry) and the regular practicing physician working in the trenches of daily care. Social media evangelists would have me pay much more attention (I'm simplifying a bit) to the opinion-leaders. - Patrick Driscoll

I can understand that they don't know about Qik or Kyte, even I don't and I spend a lot of time on Twitter and FriendFeed... - Odi Kosmatos

You should get a hat! - Freida Wolden from twhirl

I don't think that social media is so important that everyone MUST take part in it. If I had more of a life (was a busy doctor or exec.), twitter and friendfeed would be the last thing that I would do in my spare time -especially twitter. - BEX

Ok, twitter might be something they need to know, but Kyte? Qik? Far too early for both of them to be at executive level of a non-tech company. - Steven Cains

Carol Bartz doesn't use Flickr and she's Yahoo's CEO. Her daughter does use facebook to post photos though. - Thomas Hawk

Our organzation is doing well w/Facebook with more plans for expansion after receiving demographics that show a high number of professional level participants and 30 and up crowd. I always considered FB for kids. - R. Ferguson

I can belive Qik and Kyte. But Twitter. That is tough. Of course my CEO doesn't know what SEO is. - John Flynn

Robert, that does seem strange. But then I see smaller co's. and non-profits jumping into Twitter, FB,etc. faster. My theory is because start-ups and NP's are open to the pool of university student volunteer workers, interns, and beginners out there who are more saavy in this area. - Melanie Reed

Maybe it's the name...? Maybe they would prefer using something called The TwitCorp Group - Catherine Ventura

robert - did you talk to them about zoho, zocdoc, gomobo, freshbooks, etc ? - Allen Stern

not surprised. - anna sauce

They must not have any kids... or watch CNN <grin> Nice one, Catherine - love The TwitCorp Group - Cheryl Allin from twhirl

OMG there's a world OUTSIDE of Twitter and Soc Nets?! :P - Mona Nomura

cmon mona you should know by now that in the valley there are only a few products that can be talked about outside the valley by those inside the valley - scoble just doing his job :) ha! - Allen Stern

And to think, we just had an amazing tweetup in the Raleigh area last night of more than 200 tweeps. Triangle Tweetup was awesome. - Angela

Mona - LOL - say it ain't so!!!! - Susan Beebe

Yes, I agree with Freida, you should get a hat :) - Michael Forian

I - Alistair (alpinefolk)

Non-tech CEOs is not surprising. However, depending on the kind of executive not knowing at least 1 like Twitteer may be troubling. For example if they are media companies or telecom companies then that is a more troubling thought than say the executive for a manufacturing company. Ultimately the lack of knowledge is a reflection of the type of talent they recruit and how that impacts their corporate culture now and in the future. - Altan Khendup

Did those same guys also show ignorance about Facebook- then we will know that we live on different planets - google,facebook,twitter are all helping to re-shape the way we communicate with each other- rgds- hiro bachani- http://www.merlin-me.com -Merlin Magical Gadgets - hiro

Amazing how a generational gap can preclude users from a given technology. I bet none of their friends are on Twitter either - Jameel

Unsurprising to me. I think the only interesting item might be how a company without a revenue model continues to raise money! In *this* economy, that is a story. - AJ Kohn

The elementary school I work at has started to hear about Twitter. It is going mainstream very quickly. - MarkCarras

Their on FriendFeed now are they? - paul mooney

My fiancée has heard of Twitter and she does her damnedest to avoid all this high-fallutin' technology. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Not a good mood if you want to build up goodwill and awareness of your brand. I mean, unless you're McDonald's or something. - Mike Nayyar

very small % of top exective in japan knows twitter either. - Yasuyuki Goto

Do they need to know? Is twitter going to get them out of their problems? Maybe their marketing managers do know? - santiromero

Why would they know or care about Twitter, Qik or Kyte? What's the business case? - Francine Hardaway

did they know about facebook - for global mainstream business leaders that at least should be known? - mike "glemak" dunn

Using our difficult economic circumstances to dismiss the tools of Web 2.0, be it Twitter, Facebook, or something else is to embrace the status quo. And if you hadn't noticed, the status quo isn't working. Web 2.0 offers a unique opportunity to reach out to customers, be they current or would-be customers, and engage them in a way previously not possible. As for me, I work for a... more... - Lee Allgood

did they know about computers? how about the internet? ebay? facebook? trying to quantify the time lag between reality and executives. - Dino

not surprising....met an IT guy at Panera on Monday who never heard of twitter or microblogging...now that's scary - Brian Appleby

does that say something? twitter and all these things are not the most essential parts of businesses. these things are fun but there's lots of people i know who have no idea about twitter. people who invest so much time and effort in these things have to realise this. - Terry O'Fee

when things get really really tough these "social media experts" in the businesses will be the first to get the axe, sadly. - Terry O'Fee

what is more significant/startling... that some do not know about twitter et al, or that some know and do not understand the value either personal or business wise? and believe me i know plenty people who know about twitter et al and just do not get the value. nor the point. which tells me social media is in its infancy still - we all know that of course. then again it took me 2-3 years to figure out email way back when ;) - Pascal Bouvier

the value of twitter? i know lots of successful businesses who would never even look at this kind of stuff. it's not as important as a lot of you people think. - Terry O'Fee

You people? Who you calling 'YOU people'. - Chris Saad

Thats the problem. You NEED to look at it before you understand its value, both for personal use and as a corporate tool. - jcunwired

you people = the people who think the world would end if twitter shut down tomorrow... - Terry O'Fee

This post is a complete and utter déjà vu for me. Robert, did this happen another time upon which you posted a very similar statement. For a second there, I thought FriendFeed glitched and reissued an old entry. Maybe I'm just tired. - Micah Wittman

seems that twitter will have 30 more users. - pala

Um. I work under people who thinks blogging is new and uncharted territory. I'm in marketing. - myron

nonsurprising.. some of my teammates don't know about twitter. none of them know about qik. and i never heard of kyte! - Ihar Mahaniok

Chris Baskind

Aerial photos: Dutch tulip farms - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...

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Like pouring out a paintbox across the Dutch countryside - Chris Baskind from Bookmarklet

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These are quite beautiful. - shelisrael1

Aren't they? I looked twice to make sure they were real. So ... imagine a hot air balloon tour of Holland when the tulips are in season. - Chris Baskind

Wow - Michael W. May

Imagine a world covered with tulip farms and salt ponds : http://www.flickr.com/search... - Ken Sheppardson

Good link, Ken! We need to find more ... - Chris Baskind

Is this where they grow plasticine haha??? - Joe Dawson

I've always loved tulips. I would LOVE to fly over & see something like this. I'll have to check whether anything like this can be seen on Google Earth. - Kamilah Gill

Way Cool. I'd love to see them up close. Believe it or not they used to grow bulb flowers like that in Fremont California of all places. But the fields and greenhouses are now long gone, replaced by condos and high tech office buildings.... - Jeff P. Henderson

Breathtaking! - Nicholas Kreidberg

I think the tulip is the most underrated flower. - MG Siegler

WOoOW! Tulip is one of my favourites. - Maryam Ardakani

oh my god. no way! wow. - edythe

fantastic - Greg

If I were an alien, this is where I would choose to land my spaceship. Clearly a sign of an advanced civilization. - Karim

Amazing colors - johnpiercy

That's really nice. - Nicholi from twhirl

That's pretty impressive stuff - things that most people would never see or dream of. Thanks for sharing. - Benjamin "Zeus" Heide from twhirl

That's amazing. - Sawyer

That's a beautiful photo. I love tulips. We visited Keukenhof when I lived in The Netherlands and it was extraordinary. - Trish R

that's fantastic !! - Mahdi Ebrahimi

Very pretty. - Alex Hammer

I remember how fascinated I was as a child when we drove through tulip farms in Holland. It was amazing. - ※Fu※

We've got some big tullip farms around Holland, Mich, not far from here, but like that is only a town mimicing a country, those farms do not compare to this - Michael W. May from twhirl

There's a similar patch of bliss in Lompoc, California *just north of Santa Barbara. - Susan Beebe

My favorite. We put in 1K bulbs in our beds for a spring display. - Mrsth

A thousand bulbs? Wow. I hope you post pictures the next time they're in bloom. - Chris Baskind

All sorts of gorgeous - Dominik Hofmann

Wow that's really cool stuff. - Robert Occhialini

Oh wow. Thanks for sharing those. Gorgeous! - Kimberly J from NoiseRiver

Great stuff - Jeduan Cornejo

awesome. don't we have some tulip farms somewhere in the States? - Pete Delucchi

cool!I love flowers! - alexandra baskind

Robert Scoble

According to my FriendFeed stats for every participant there are 4.69 lurkers. I discuss how I learned that here:

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For the past several months I've been following EVERYONE who shows up on my view. Those are participants. People who click like. People who leave comments. I am now following 4,601 people according to FriendFeed. Yet if I look at the larger pool of who is following me there are 21,578 there. Who are these lurkers? Have I caught every participant? - Robert Scoble

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Sneaky :-) - Gordon Saunders

interesting - Brendon Wadey

you should get me that many followers lol - Brendon Wadey

I'm pretty sure I've caught most of the participants. Why? Because I've both begged for people to let me know and, also, because if you look at how 4,000 people link out to other people and get their audiences involved you'll see that they touch more than 100,000 FriendFeeders. - Robert Scoble

so do you still believe there are >100K FF users Robert? :) - Jeremy Toeman

Interesting statistic. Seems like a fairly high participation rate. I wonder how that compares to other social media sites such as Twitter as well as Blogs? - Jeff P. Henderson

It would be great if you could compare numbers with other notables to see if this is specifically a Scoble ratio, or a more generally observed phenomenon. - Gordon Saunders

Brendon: followers are fun, but following is more important. Someday I'll write a book about why. But, short version is that if you follow smart and interesting people they'll get you involved in interesting conversations. They'll make you smarter and more interesting. Guess what? That'll get you more followers. It's a vicious cycle. I haven't seen anyone with a lot of followers who isn't smart and interesting here (and/or a participant). - Robert Scoble

That is why I'm so picky about who I follow. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Jeremy: yes, there are. Provably so. Just visit the "Everyone" feed and you'll see that most of those aren't in my sphere of influence. Heck, there's an extremely interesting Farsi crowd here that I can't even read, so I don't follow them for the most part. - Robert Scoble

That is probably the most useful tip I have heard from anyone in quite awhile, it makes sense and is true. But yes followers are fun :) - Brendon Wadey

The wonders of a larger sample size... see by that standard, I'm following 119, and have 86 following me. Since I've started using FF, I've had ... less than a dozen comments and likes combined. So if I were running these numbers, I'd say - "interaction on FriendFeed is nil - whereas interaction on Twitter is incredible"... then again, my echo chamber resides in Twitter and is small. Breaking through that is the next trick... - Enrique Gutierrez

Jeff: on blogs the rate of lurkers is much higher. Arrington has a million RSS subscribers, yet how many of those participate in his comments? Only a very small percentage. - Robert Scoble

Funny, I am subscribed to every single person on this thread so far, which validates that I don't have any participants who I haven't followed yet. Wonder what all those lurkers are doing? I bet that they very rarely visit FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Robert, when you start going into higher numbers; any group of people becomes representative of the general demographics. This means it represents the same classes of people: 20% Leaders, 80% followers. You, Sir, belong to the former. Your numbers are representative of the same fact. I do not anticipate this to change, this is the structure of the society, how we are built. - Parth Awasthi

@Robert, That is what I suspected. Comparing Blogs to social media sites is an apples to oranges comparison. - Jeff P. Henderson

Scoble, your point on touching 100,000 FriendFeeders is interesting. Am comparing it to the statistic that LinkedIn shows on people connected to ones contacts..i have 13,000 contacts via the immediate 194 of mine. But purely in terms of engagement/participation am thinking FF beats LinkedIn. - Mahesh CR

Parth: yes, but this is the first time in history where we have the names of the lurkers! :-) - Robert Scoble

That is an amazingly high participation rate - Internet Strategist

I'd love to know what they're all doing, especially the 15 people that should (by the 1:4.7 ratio) be interacting with my feed. I should hire a team of christmas elves to hook up the comments on my timeline... - Enrique Gutierrez

Participation is also harder on popular blogs now, with many requiring registration, captchas or email confirmation steps. The harder it is to say what you want, the less likely folks are to bother. - John

hahaha - Brendon Wadey

Yea there are many blogs that I go to but never comment, because I don't want to take the time to sign up for that blog nor do I want more accounts with places I might only go to once in awhile. - Brendon Wadey

The Lost Lurkers of Atlantis. Imagine if they all decided to decend upon a comment thread all on the same day. There should be a count down or something to give it a shot. - Micah Wittman

I lurk, therefore I am - Pete Gilbert

@Brendon That is why I wish everyone used Disqus or something where you don't have to sign up just to leave a comment. Cause I personally will not sign up. - Mathew™ one of a kind

@Robert, I think there are plenty of lurkers that do not participate, but read as they either do not have a significant enough interest in the topics at hand or they do not agree with the views posted and do not wish to start an argument. I believe the latter was very true during the election, especially for those with Right leaning views, who were grossly outnumbered by the Left leaning points of view here on FF. - Jeff P. Henderson

Yup and hopefully one day that is how it will be - Brendon Wadey

I'm a lurker, for the most part, I have a hard time bouncing around to everyone's feeds. I really should consider just using FF as my main source. It's so handy. - Chris Pugh

I certainly hope I'm not a lurker! Though I don't really participate on FriendFeed as much as I'd like. I'm actually more on Twitter and FB than FF, and I've tried to heavily integrate both only to find that I updated too much when I did that. How do you mitigate the overabundance of updates? lol - Carlton Hackett

What would a social network with no lurkers look like? - Ziad

Here's the problem. I bet that there are tons of lurkers who don't even sign in, or follow. So, there are now three classes of people here: 1. Participants. 2. Logged in lurkers. 3. Invisible lurkers. I bet that for every one participant there are 5 in #2 and 50 in #3. Participants are worth their weight in gold. - Robert Scoble

wow - Brendon Wadey

Carlton and Pete: I already followed you, so you aren't a lurker. :-) - Robert Scoble

Whats great is after commenting on this post a couple of times I've had two ppl subscribe to me in the past two minutes. - Mathew™ one of a kind

John, Brendon, that's why I'm glad to see Disqus, Backtype, IntenseDebate & other comment mechanisms that avoid the need for that. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

I have been added people since this convo as well - Brendon Wadey

Very interesting, indeed. I had actually stopped reciprocating follows, this being one of the reasons. I figured that, if someone was worth following, I would see them in my view at some point. Otherwise, they are probably not active or don't have anything I want to see. I think FF may be the only service where you can do this. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Is that called "followed by association"? - James D Kirk

I too agree on who you follow too, it does make you smarter and I need to work on being a bit more involved as well. - Barbara Duck

I can only think of a couple of possible explanations. I'm sure a certain percentage are just people who never took to the service and never came back. The other explanation is simple enough - in any medium where there are creators and consumers the consumers far outnumber the creators. I'm kind of surprised the ratio is that low actually. - invariant - farewell FF

@Robert Do you know what your most commented FF post has been to date - how many comments attached? Thanks. - Micah Wittman

Hahaha @Scobleizer I don't know about this one. Perhaps for someone that has an incredible volume of audience, sure... in fact, I'm sure there's some bell curve you can apply to an equation with enough samples from people. The attention bucket is exponential & variant significantly. such as - 8 readers on my blog, subscribed, but approximately 1000 readers a month. We need to take a sample & get some data & charts going. - Enrique Gutierrez

Not sure there's much wrong with lurking - Usenet used to encourage a period of lurking before participation to get a feel for the group. Perhaps people are naturally doing the same thing here. - John

I also want people to realize that just because I don't subscribe back to you doesn't mean I hate you or something. It either means your just not active enough, fill most of your feed with Twitter, Wakoopa, etc or you are just too knew and I don't know yet. - Mathew™ one of a kind

stats is one of the hardest things to get, and get done right. - Brendon Wadey

invariant: we always knew that the lurkers far outnumbered the participants. We saw this back in the mid 1990s on CompuServe (where people PAID to participate and read forums, so we had lots of good numbers). Back then it was 1 to 50 or lower. I bet that the real lurkers aren't even subscribing . I think FriendFeed has demonstrated that there's a third group that was unmeasurable before: lurkers who will log in to get something of value or just to try out a service before discarding it. - Robert Scoble

understandable - Brendon Wadey

1:5 particpant vs lurker ratio. That's pretty good ratio in an online community. - Leon Ho

Another reason: in the time it took me to type my comment this post went from 2 to 40 comments. Everything that needs to be said gets said very quickly on your posts. - invariant - farewell FF

Micah: I don't know which of my FF items was most commented on. Seems that a very high comment rate is more than 100. It's rare that I see that here. Brendon, agree, stats are full of lies. One thing that's very interesting is that I found three new people on this thread so far. - Robert Scoble

When someone follows me, I typically look at their content and frequency of posting before deciding to follow them. As Robert said, I 'm looking for quality content also (i.e. stuff that is interesting to me). - Jeff P. Henderson

Rahsheen, didn't you recently say "if I'm not following you back, it's my fault I'm sorry" or something like that? Which is it? - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Brendon - I don't think it'd be that difficult. You'd have to get a small number of the few types of Internet people out there... all in all - you could probably run this experiment with (arbitrarily) 24~ people's stats - Enrique Gutierrez from twhirl

Leon: the problem is I don't know the real "lurker" numbers because I can't see FriendFeed's true traffic for my posts. So, there might be 5-100 more "unregistered" lurkers here that we can't see, which would bring down the ratio more to be closer to blogs. - Robert Scoble

yea true - Brendon Wadey

Those numbers are more in line with what I've seen moderating forums and in ecommerce conversion rates. There will never be anything with NO lurkers because there are so many who are afraid to say anything. Forcing people to log in or sign up is a major participation killer, so anyone serious about increasing participation really needs to remove those obstacles. - Internet Strategist

I've already had two people subscribe to me since this thread started. - Jeff P. Henderson

@ Jeff I do the same exact thing. - Mathew™ one of a kind

I tend to work the opposite way around - I'll subscribe to somebody when I see an interesting post/comment, but unsubscribe later in the rare case that I find I can't cope with their content. - John

I just finally got a TypePad account yesterday because I really wanted to leave a comment in a blog that required one. The first comment I made was suggesting they remove the requirement to log in. To the blogger's credit he immediately DID remove it AND followed up with me. What we do - every little improvement - makes an enormous long-term difference. - Internet Strategist

I do a lot of lurking, and I follow a lot of links and Google a lot of things that I've never heard of before. That's how I ended up here, it's also how I found Twitter. I think sometimes it's networking or info overload that causes people to abandon communities or services they've joined or spend more time reading than commenting. It's easy to end up out of your depth. - ilene

That is exactly how I work as well - Brendon Wadey

I don't even remember how I found out about Friendfeed. I think it was through Twitter. Hell I don't even know when I joined. Just know that it was sometime in the middle of July...I think. - Mathew™ one of a kind

@ilene, that is exactly the value of following interesting people on FF. Once you do that, participation is inevitable unless one is very shy. - Jeff P. Henderson

I also found it through twitter, didn't use it for awhile and just started using it quite abit now, starting to really like it :) - Brendon Wadey

Friendfeed really is something, I have just spent an hour using this application (yes I consider it an app) and have really been enjoying myself. :) - Brendon Wadey

Robert: Right. I wonder at what point a high comment count precipitates branching off onto a new FF post or even something longer format (I have had the urge before, but shrug it off b/c the immediacy loses steam). I've noticed you springboard to a blog post at times, but my recollection holds that it's related to a convergence in your broader experience and not specific to a frenzy of response (measured by volume of comments). - Micah Wittman

@Jeff I've tried that on Twitter, but at least here it seems likely that even if you don't have a direct connection to someone already that you might still get a response. :) - ilene

@Bredon Wakoopa considers it an app as well. - Mathew™ one of a kind

I know the blog posting series I want to read: a system to regularly make the rounds of all the appropriate Social Networking sites, keep multiple blogs updated, and stay on top of it all. - Internet Strategist

oh how i love web 2.0 :) :) - Brendon Wadey

I originally viewed friendfeed as a way to keep up on postings throughout the web from the people I enjoy following. I added links to some of my own sources but didn't really expect anyone to follow me. I think a lot of people use friendfeed analogously to an RSS reader but grouped by people instead of websites. - invariant - farewell FF

Checked email. 2 FF subscribes and a Facebook friend request to boot (I may get to that one in a week) - Micah Wittman

One thing I have noticed regarding the number of comments and participation on a post is, that it is not only related to the level of interest, but is definitely dependent on the time of day, who, and how many people are on FF at the time. i.e. Friday night is a good time to post if you want interaction. - Jeff P. Henderson

I would bet a lot of people signed up once to check it out and never came back. There are a lot of ways the site could improve for first-time users, which would improve retention. - Louis Gray

Posting is good. Interesting posting is better. I prefer people who post when they have something to say, rather than just to participate. - Alexandros Georgiadis

Louis: I bet a lot of people visited it from my blog once and didn't even sign up. Getting people to participate really is difficult, isn't it? - Robert Scoble

lol @ Jeff P. Henderson - you know what that says about our social lives - Internet Strategist

@ Louis, that is very true and has been discussed many times here. New FF users do not have a very good experience the first time they use the service until they are following several active people. Those who do not understand this may move after their first visit. - Jeff P. Henderson

What is even more interesting is people who answer me over on Twitter but won't participate here. That, too, is interesting behavior. - Robert Scoble

Do those twitterers know about FF? - James D Kirk

Robert started this by posting the comment to Twitter and here. Does anyone know if he has written anything on Social Media strategies like that one? Or know of anyone else who has? One thing FF could do to improve usability is to put the comment option at the bottom too instead of just at the top. - Internet Strategist

I second that, Internet Strategist. "Comment" at the bottom, too! - Alexandros Georgiadis

Plus, no going to the top of the page after subscribing to someone. - Alexandros Georgiadis

Yep, my scrolling finger is getting mighty sore on this thread.... ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson

James: yes. See http://www.twitter.com/scoblei... . Internet Strategist: nope, I haven't written anything up about these strategies yet. I'm just playing and learning. - Robert Scoble

Auto refresh or Real time would be nice - Alexandros Georgiadis

WOW 90 comments in less that 45 minutes! - Jeff P. Henderson

For new FF people, I think there should be a part 2 to that lovely video I remember seeing when I first joined. Like a Top 10 list of things to do once on FF. And some recommended followers as well. That should get you off to a running start. - Amani

Louis Gray has written countless articles on his Blog about how to use FF. Definitely worth a read. http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Jeff P. Henderson

Thanks Jeff. Just what I needed. I just figured out how to import my blog feed and to filter anyone's feed to see just their blog posts. How can they be sharp enough to make those easy and not put the comment option at the bottom? - Internet Strategist

I rarely log in to FF to participate as most of my social circle hasn't adopted FF, let alone Twitter yet. However, I was on FF before you, and for a while I had an 'imaginary' Scoble set up to follow. Now I use the comments feature of the Facebook news feed like I would FF. I don't have time to participate everywhere, so I usually participate where my closest-knit social circle is present. Not sure what kind of a 'lurker' that makes me, but hopefully that gives some helpful insight. - Mike English

Oh, and I saw this first on twitter, but for once came over to comment. - Mike English

I just started following you about a week ago only on freind feed. It's really neat to see that you are taking the time to see who all of us are so to speak. - Enriqueta

I suspect that everyone uses SM sequentially instead of all at once because there are too many. Based on this FF exchange has been far more illuminating than Twitter so far. What we need is a tool that automatically logs in a particular persona to each site. One that we can configure to present links to all potential places to visit and drag and drop them to the priority we prefer. Ideally it would allow a large number of personas and easily switch between them. (That could be a programming challenge.) - Internet Strategist

Mike: cool, welcome back. I am on Facebook more lately too, but the quality of the conversations are decidedly different, which I find interesting (although the participants have a lot of overlap, which also surprised me). Enriqueta, welcome, hope to see you more! - Robert Scoble

My info-stream comes mainly from the nexus FriendFeed - Greader with Twitter as the connective tissue. Even when I'm bounced to a source site (blog, news), all of my dialogue (comments, chat) has moved to the FF space. But the trickle down (or up) effect from comments being moved between platforms (blog> Greader> FF> Twitter> blog...) has de-centered the conversation. New protocols to structure this ecosystem (where & under what circumstances to leave a comment, start a conversation) are emerging. - Brad Kligerman

I can't participate in all smart conversation initiated by all friendfeed's smart guys.. even though I want to.. therefore I lurk.. - Pico Seno

You weren't kidding about "countless" articles on FF. There are 689 of them! I thought some might be interested in his latest http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Internet Strategist

@internet Strategist, Subscribe to Louis Gray here on FF and you well see all of his new articles as soon as he posts them. - Jeff P. Henderson

I already did but thanks for the suggestion (in case I hadn't figured it out yet). I subscribed to you too. Thanks for the assistance and I do hope you'll visit my blog. It is at http://GrowMap.com and I added it to my feed here so you can get an idea what I post about there. (Filtered posts at http://friendfeed.com/growmap...) - Internet Strategist

Hmm, I have an even lower participation rate. For every participant, there's at least 6 nonparticipants. @Robert, do you look for new participants in the public feed? - Tanath

Tanath: yes, I do look there often to see if anyone is doing something I'd be interested in. - Robert Scoble

I'll wager (fairly heavily) that "lurkers" aren't really even "lurking". Let's face it, if you like FF, it's fun to be engaged, but why on Earth would you just "watch" all this chatter? Seriously, I cannot think of a worse hobby than "I lurk on FriendFeed"... - Jeremy Toeman

@Jeremy - I disagree. Lurking on FriendFeed can be quite fun, entertaining and informative (not that i'm a lurker). My guess is the lurkers don't read through all the "chatter" but rather skim through and find interesting links and information they may be, or may not be, looking for. - Justin Korn

Interesting discussion. I'm very new, Twitter and FB about a month ago and FF this week. Still finding my feet or rather still trying not to put my foot in my mouth when commenting. Must get over that and just go for it. Would say I've never seen anything like this before but then, as I said, am new to social media anyway so what do I know. Great being here, already inspired a new work of art :) - Nicola Quinn

Talk about being super-transparent in a way. - Ms. B

Ditto @Mike English: "I rarely log in to FF to participate as most of my social circle hasn't adopted FF, let alone Twitter yet. I don't have time to participate everywhere"...and I am pretty much shocked that some people do. My ex-husband, a programmer, and his crowd all Twitter, which is interesting to follow because he and his friends are very smart and all involved in technology,... more... - Colleen

Colleen I agree, it's a strange but interesting world here with few rules which makes it both refreshing and quite exciting. And I love the new topics I've been able to explore which I wouldn't bother looking into any other way. It's also great to be able to reply in more than 140 chars here. - Nicola Quinn

Jeremy: there are a wide variety of reasons that people would lurk here. Did you know that lots of these threads are showing up on Google now? So, people are finding them on Google, reading them, deciding they are lame, and moving on. Other people are hearing about various things here over on Twitter. Others are hearing about them from various blogs. In fact, if you visit my blog you might see my FriendFeed item on my blog. Are you a lurker? Hmmm. - Robert Scoble

Robert, shouldn't you be asleep, or packing or something? - Nicola Quinn

i think you are doing it wrong robert ;) - Chris Hofmann

I've been frustrated lately with lack of purposeful dialog with me on Facebook and Twitter, even though I've been doing everything I can to get some type of interaction. I'm hoping FF will be the answer I'm looking for in finding actual participants and making true connections. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Chris: of course I'm doing it wrong. That's why I'm following all of you so I can learn the right way to use this darn contraption. Jannifer, welcome, will be looking for you. Nicola, already packed. Sleep? Um, would like to, but got this stupid expense report I'm finishing up. - Robert Scoble

I signed up because it sounded like a cool idea, really. xD Nowadays I just link people to my FF account and let people find my other social presences from there. It's much more simple for me, in that way. - Neurario

Can't find who said, why would anyone want to add people they don't know? That's exactly why I joined here to find some new cool friends and repattern my aging neurons with some stimulating ideas and conversations :) - Nicola Quinn

Bon voyage Robert, have a great trip, Spain is fantastic and hope your expense report didn't give you too much of a headache. - Nicola Quinn

Forrester / @jowyang has some interesting related stats here http://blogs.forrester.com/grounds... - Mike Reynolds

Lurking is always necessary for a beginner. People learn to participate in time. It's like high school on the net. - Phil Boiarski

I am not sure your analysis of the lurker stats stands up. Obviously for your feed it is true but to generalize is probably not appropriate. There probably a number of reasons why people lurk on your feed but participate otherwise. First is that comments on your posts tend to get very noisy, very quickly making it difficult and time consuming to participate other than a quick scan. Second is that a lot of FF do not have English as a first language making it even more difficult for them to participate..... - Brian Sullivan

That gives another really good reason why something like FF is so good. People who don't know English or even another language they could spend there time reading people's posts and even asking questions, and could possibly help them learn that language. - Brendon Wadey

There may be others as well but they don't immediately come to mind. I think to judge participation you need a broader set of data. How many FFers are there? How many have ever participated? How many have participated in the last day, week, month? I am thinking that participation on a broad scale might be even more than you 4.69 stat indicates. - Brian Sullivan

You are right, and if you look back into the comments as I said earlier that one of the hardest things to get and to get done right is stats, it's almost impossible to get depending on what you are looking at. But yes, if you can get that information it would show a better picture, and probably would be much more. - Brendon Wadey

Another problem with using your posts as a gauge-- because of the stupid FF bubble algorithm this post has stopped rising to the top even though comments and likes continue to be added. Even with your posts the participation rate might be higher if this was not the case. - Brian Sullivan

Echoing a lot of comments here w/ my own take: I'm a sysadmin & programmer on Twitter & FF for a couple months. Believe it or not, none of my family friends or colleagues use either so I have been lurking until I got a feel 4 how it works and until I felt I had something worth saying. To me, there are so many out there that comment and participate with nothing useful to say. I would rather be a lurker than one of those guys! - Brendten Eickstaedt

Is something useful opinion? - Brendon Wadey

As someone who would consider themselves a lurker, I agree with HealthMash. There is quite a bit of participation that adds nothing to the conversation. - Joseph Ferris

Yes absolutely. What isn't useful, at least 2 me, are comments from people who clearly just want their name out there. As Jim Rome says "have a take and do not suck!" - Brendten Eickstaedt

2 me FF most useful as the aggregator of my info-stream. I first found of b/c I am on so many social sites I can't keep them all straight. Just point people 2 FF and be done w/ it. Until a couple of days ago I didn't read a single comment or follow a single person. I did use it to find the info streams of other interesting people tho but never followed them. I guess that makes me one of @scobleizers invisible lurkers! - Brendten Eickstaedt

Yes like others, I get responses not here, seems few people I know are on FF. Interestingly I get more feedback via Facebook via the Twitters I do than Twitter, problem is I'm not getting complaints from FB people about me 'flooding their feed'. If I disconnect Twitter and FB it would literally be like cutting the rope to Facebook, I find little there except the group I know IRL and responses/dialogue to keep me there - games and apps and groups don't do it for me. - Tim

I actually think part of the problem is there are too many social media sites - competition is spreading groups far too thinly - why I've never signed up to Bebo and delayed with Facebook and Twitter, and only recently signed up with LinkedIn. I felt I had too many others (Livejournal, Podcasts, Myspace, RSS feeds, forums etc). It's only recently I felt those apps had a maturity and enough followers in people I know personally to go for them. Twitter I think has a LONG way to go in that department. - Tim

Word of mouth and first impressions mean a lot. It took a few enthusiastic comments regarding FF for me to check it out - and I had to make the commitment to try it. It's also nice when the service is clearer - such as the '25 uses for FF' etc posts. Those are great - not everyone will find those. It's important when you're importing what others say. It nearly got me disowned for embarrassing a family member once - and caused us both to quit that particular networking site. - ilene

I have to agree with Tim on two points. A lot of the members of my site and listeners to my show are not into a lot of these newer social media sites, which is somewhat ironic given that they are techs who do gravitate around two of the oldest forms of social networking on the net - BB forums and newsgroups. Also, these sites are now so numerous the entire arena can be overwhelming. - Rick Savoia

clever idea Robert! - Susan Beebe

I wonder if that 4.69 number will go down over time as some people move from lurker status to interactive status? FF isn't for lurkers it's for conversations and not passive users. Lurkers should stick to TV, radio, and other one way media outlets. - Jeremy Campbell from twhirl

I think you have missed people. Unless you stop unfollowing from time to time. Perhaps, the comments or likes disappeared before you had time to see. - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside

I decided to do a little research with FFHolic and it seems the participation rate is around 80% - http://blog.justinkorn.com/index... - right on target with Robert's numbers - Justin Korn

I think your discovery of such a high "participation" rate just goes to prove that FF is still in the Early Adopter phase. Those 100K or so that are using it, are USING it! - James D Kirk

i wager 25K "active" users. #1 user = scoble (~19K subs), #1 room = rww (~3K subs). seems hard to believe that there would be any more than that... - Jeremy Toeman

Mitchell Tsai

Berkshire Hathaway BRK.B [Google Finance] - http://finance.google.com/finance...

November 28, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Warren Buffett went up 43% in last 5 days (2,451 to 3,499). Wow! I should have bought this instead of the S&P 500 index. - Mitchell Tsai

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I didn't pinpoint the bottom on this one but I got a decent price. I wish I actually had time to watch the market and trade. - Morton Fox

I wish I had (a) bought some BRK.B - I was thinking about it, but thought I'd have a better return on other stuff, and switch into Warren in 1-2 yrs after we'd recovered a bit (b) In a sideways market, once into 10+% profit, I was thinking about stop-losses following the rise; e.g. a stop-loss at 3,200 would lock in a 30% profit. --- Oh, well. Main thing I've learned over 20 yrs of investing is there are always more opportunities. Just cut your losses, so you stay in the game with less headaches. - Mitchell Tsai

I took a 15% loss last week when my stop-losses started tripping, so missed out on (a) 20-25% loss at the Thu bottom (b) 13% gain if I had held until today. That's the problem with stop-losses. But I also had an easy time sleeping. For crazy risky gains, this week - GM 1.7-5.55 (+226%), F (Ford) 1.01-2.74 (+173%), C (Citicorp) 3.05-8.29 (+172%) - Mitchell Tsai

Chris: I'm not sure how long we will be sideways, However, Canada's Prem Watsa hedged and bet against markets and he REMOVED his hedges...hmmm... (Fairfax's investment team, led by Watsa, made US$2 billion in profits for shareholders since 2003) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-f... Prem is willing to take another 50% loss (from here), and is betting that the market is rising. - Mitchell Tsai

The average market advisor is so-crazy bullish (uggh), but when a major bear player is changing sides, it has me thinking. I may place some bear bets in the next week if this rally reverses, but I am thinking to cost-average into the market in the next few months. Some good values. I may buy into Warren's BRK.B earlier than I expected (e.g. if it drops around 3,000). - Mitchell Tsai

Chris: Dow could go to 4,000-6,000 or it could go back up to 10,000+. Just as long as your investment strategy is ok with both possibilities. - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell: Stop losses are great near a bull market peak. I got stopped out of a bunch of stocks last year, saving me the bother of picking a time to sell. With stocks so volatile now, your stop losses may trigger every day! - Morton Fox

Chris: What are you doing? What do you suggest? I'm fine with sitting out of the market for another year. Morton: Good point about the stop-losses; however, I really don't feel like taking >25% losses on any one trade. - Mitchell Tsai

Chris: Have you ever considered easing into a stock (e.g. buy some BRK.B when it's at 2,000-3,000 lows, sell some BRK.B when at 3,500-4,000 highs, and gradually accumulate)? Basically, more advanced versions of cost-average and multiple-stop-loss strategies, where each individual decision is not quite so important. Have you looked at the Cap Gemini investment distributions of HNWIs? - Mitchell Tsai

Paul Buchheit

µTorrent - Now the lightweight power and performance of µTorrent available for your Mac. - http://mac.utorrent.com/beta/

November 26, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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yesssss. goodbye, Azureus, hello uTorrent! - Phil G

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On the Mac, I've been using Transmission but on my Vista machines, it's been μTorrent. I'm interested to see how it stacks up in Leopard. - Akiva Moskovitz

slick, but not quite as lick'able as Xtorrent. - Bill Strathearn

I have to say that on a PC I've never had any problem with Azureus (now Vuze). - Ian May

Azureus just got bigger, slower, more unstable. I finally tried uTorrent and wow, I actually like getting torrents again! Azureus/Vuze is a pig. - Chris Lamprecht

Big time bloated oinky for Azureus -- used to love it though. No need for all the memory hoggedness. Just use utorrent, and you can't go wrong. The RSS feeds work pretty well too. - Pete Delucchi

Isn't Azureus Java? - Akiva Moskovitz

So how does uTorrent compare to Transmission? - Paul Grav

Haven't ever had a problem with Transmission, so doubt i'll try uTorrent - Chris Dahl

Just tried out; Transmission and uTorrent seem to be of equal quality and have similar features -- both feel lightweight. - Olivier Tharan

it's been there online for a while now, check my above bookmark for further P2P clients which go beyond utorrent limitations - sofarsoShawn

I have never had a problem with Azureus/Vuse. But then again, it's not like I run it on my old P1. - April Russo (app103)

wow there is a post on computer software that i have actually been shown how to use!! i have just downloaded Juno and Kidulthood on here - ♥ Stephiepooos ♥

uTorrent for Windows rocks. Some of the uTorrent user community was concerned about DRM restrictions being put into the client after uTorrent was bought by BitTorrent (known to be friendly with the MPAA) but so far that hasn't happened. - Jess Lee

The sad part, not much cracked software out there to get! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Why would you use this closed source thing when you could be free and clear with Transmission? - Patrick Jones

Another argument in favour of Transmission: the window adapts its size so it takes less real estate, and the icon badge can display the current upload and download rates. - Olivier Tharan

Jesse Stay

Where do you get most of your Tech News Today? (@Scobleizer) http://socialtoo.com/survey...

November 23, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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How about "other?" - Mark Trapp

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I got a stack overflow error, though it seemed to work anyway. - Paul Sharrock

Mark, I wanted to be specific on this one to force choices, but I'm sure there are many others. I also should have added RSS as well. That's actually where I get most of my Tech news. - Jesse Stay from twhirl

Google Reader and FriendFeed, primarily. Then My Yahoo! or Drudge, to be honest. - Louis Gray

Friendfeed, Google Reader, my iGoogle page. - Mathew™ one of a kind

FriendFeed, twitter, gReader, NY Times - Susan Beebe

Right here - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

What's with the Scolbeizer reference? - abacab

abacab: cause I started talking about how tech news is changing over on my blog, over on my Kyte video feed, and here. - Robert Scoble

85% from FF - 15% other - Valley

Jesse: sure, but as you offered, there are problems with a forced choice. I'm not sure what conclusions you could come up with from this survey if an option like RSS/feed aggregation is removed. - Mark Trapp

techmeme. my readwriteweb subscription. digg technology -- tho its slow for obvious reasons. - john conroy

Tech news? I usually overhear stuff here...I guess I should actually start following stuff. lol - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Google Reader mostly, then Reddit - Duncan Riley

Google reader. - Patricia

FF rocks the casbah! - Thomas Hawk

FriendFeed,Twitter,Google Reader - Igor Poltavskiy

For sure FF. And then other sites in my google reader (isn't that my RSS anyways?) - Amani

RSS, RSS, RSS, FriendFeed - Sarah Perez

Google Reader and FriendFeed are the way, it's all about who you are following/subscribed to! - Joe Dawson

I get Tech stuff from here. - Iain Baker

FF , G-reader & SocialMedian - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)

Here in custom groups, Google Reader - Chris Miller

Mitchell Tsai

Shares Near 6-Year Low, With More Losses Feared [Jack Healy, New York Times - 11/19/08] - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...

November 20, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Dow 7,000? Dow 6,000? Yields on Treasury bills, meantime, fell to nearly zero. Investors were willing to accept almost no return just to know their money was safe. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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Another source of concern is a possible new round of forced sales by hedge funds, seeking to raise the cash quickly to meet margin calls and redemptions of assets by investors. - Mitchell Tsai

Financial shares are plunging far below the levels plumbed in October, when panic gripped the markets. On Wednesday, Citigroup, the hobbled financial giant, plunged 23.4 percent to a mere $6.40 in an avalanche of sell orders. Once the most valuable financial company in America, Citigroup is now worth less than U.S. Bancorp. - Mitchell Tsai

Goldman Sachs, the former employer of Henry M. Paulson Jr., the Treasury secretary, sank to its lowest level since it went public in 1999. Analysts predicted that Goldman, the most profitable bank in Wall Street history, would suffer its first loss as a public company. - Mitchell Tsai

Even Warren E. Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, which owns the Geico Corporation and recently invested in Goldman Sachs, fell 12 percent, its steepest decline in more than two decades. - Mitchell Tsai

The Dow Jones industrial average closed down 427.47 points or 5.07 percent, at 7,997.28. The broader Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index closed down 6.12 percent or 52.54 points at 806.58 while the technology-heavy Nasdaq ended down 6.53 percent at 1,386.42. - Mitchell Tsai

Robert Scoble

I love Google. They keep bringing out cool things. Yahoo? It has been a while.

November 17, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Typing is for suckers...Long live voice. - Zee.

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The difference is that Google keeps their products around, Yahoo axes them shortly after releasing them in most cases. I don't even know why they bother anymore. - Javier Altman

I can't remember the last time I used a Yahoo service really. - Bhavishya Kanjhan

Google has kept its focus on developing the coolest cutting-edge Internet software possible. Yahoo got distracted by some Old Media people, and, in some respects, tried to become a traditional mainstream media company. Brin and Page exercised better judgment than Yang and Filo. Perhaps they are simply smarter. - Sean McBride

@Bhavishya Kanjhan - Flickr?? - thomasrdotorg

Yahoo! brings cool stuff too, eg: searchmonkey, pipes, open strategy. But somehow it's not as viral as when it comes from Google. I love Yahoo!. Hopefully they won't disappear anytime soon. Come on Yahoo! Let's grow in Asia. - Toni @ NavinoT

They havent done anything useful with Flickr & delicious! Meanwhile google has innovated with picasa with facial recognition & integration with contacts. Yahoo has all the components, its about tying them together and coming out with useful services. Unfortunately either they dont know how to do it or dont have the back bone to execute on it. Yahoo shows flashes of brilliance but thats where it ends.. Case in point fire eagle. Might as well acquire Brightkite! Yahoo get back innovating! - Arjun Ram

I love that in the announcement, he said that they're the world leader technology and product... have they heard of Google? - Simon T Small

The only Yahoo service I use? Flickr. And that's a old product. - Leon Ho

an oldy but a goody - Simon T Small

there is delicious of course...flickr like leon said...pipes is pretty damn cool. They're huge in China i believe...i reckon they'll come back. - Zee.

Google brings cool products - Yes. Yahoo for me as bought in some cool products like Flickr and Delicious which I love. - Tejas Patel

Brin and Page have a grand vision of how to best organize all the information in the world. They see how all the pieces fit together. I'm not sure Yang and Filo ever quite reached that level of consciousness. Google has unlimited potential if they stay on track -- they've barely scratched the surface of what is possible. - Sean McBride

Well said, Sean. - Steve Isaacs

I give Yahoo money for Flickr and fantasy sports. I have yet to give Google a cent but use all their services. I know it's different for businesses. - Andrew Smith

yea, they have a very clear vision, to digitize and make available all the information in the world... and credit to them, they've stayed on track! Yahoo!? just trying to sell advertising. - Simon T Small

Although I have an affection for how Flickr has aged, ie. fairly well, I'm also getting tired of the many lil' pesky UI gaffes and the chug. Gotta treat a lady right, Yahoo. - Marko Bon

Yahoo voice chat was the awesomest thing I had ever used in the world as far as social interaction at one point in time. Yahoo chat period was awesome. Sure, there was IRC, but this was different. Now, it's like Yahoo has let all those services, even the newer video stuff, get overrun by....crazies - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

I don't know, they may end up naming a cool new CEO shortly :-) - Duncan Riley

Google does nothing but KILL cool things. Their search engine is great. Earth and Maps are good, everything else? Meh. I wish Yahoo would have kept Live! going. It was a really nice and robust personal broadcast service. Their MyYahoo page is pretty nice too and so many people still use Yahoo! Groups. And lets not forget they own Flickr and Delicious. - Adam Turetzky

Adam - you didn't mention Google Reader, Gmail, Google Docs, Google News, Google Blog Search, Google Book Search and Google Voice Local Search, all of which I use heavily. I practically live out of Google Reader. - Sean McBride

Yahoo Messenger, Yahoo News, Yahoo Pipes, YUI, MyBlogLog, Flickr, Yahoo Finance.... yeah, if Yahoo were to disappear tomorrow, I'd definitely notice. BrowserPlus was just released and it was covered. Yahoo is much bigger than the drama we make about them. - Bwana ☠

I have to say, though, I am hoping Yahoo can pull through this current slump. I am a big believer in what they are doing with Y!OS. - John McCrea

Agreed, its just relative to Google. - Simon T Small

YUI is really the only innovative thing I've seen in quite some time. - Hal from twhirl

My favorite source for good product info used to be a Yahoo Labs search engine (Mindset). They axed it about a year ago though, sadly. - Dan Byler

I think Yahoo Pipes is pretty innovative, not sure how many use it though. I can't even scratch the surface of all the features - Rick Bucich from twhirl

Yahoo Buzz is nicely done - Michael McGimpsey from twhirl

Yahoo seems to be good at wringing out their CEOs. - Cathleen Rittereiser

I use Yahoo Fantasy Sports. That's about it though. I suspect it's the same for many others. - Nathan Johns

Jerry's done inovating. I think that portion of our brain fossilizes at a certain point. He'll probably be better off, and weathier in the end - but would have done much better to have realized it 8 months ago. - Hal from twhirl

no way! yahoo location database api, yahoo query language, search monkey, semantic indexing, have you seen the stuff mybloglog is still coming up with? wordpress recommendation widget, blogjuice reader demographics. i think yahoo comes out with more cool stuff than google by a long shot - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Yahoo was my default e-mail and messenger client... untill Gmail and Gtalk happened... Love Google, - Devakishor

Yeah not sure how Google can pump up innovation so quickly! - Alvin

We had something unusual go out today; oh, wait, that was the CEO.... - Glen Mistletoe

Did Google learn from Yahoo's mistakes? Or did the just got so big and so diversified that a (potential) fall from grace will be even worse? - sofiagk

"Yahoo! brings cool stuff too, eg: searchmonkey, pipes, open strategy. But somehow it's not as viral as when it comes from Google." Akhmad, not sure about that -- do more people know about the Google Mashup Editor than about Yahoo Pipes? - Philipp Lenssen

"The difference is that Google keeps their products around, Yahoo axes them shortly after releasing them in most cases." What do you make of Yahoo Answers vs Google Answers then? Google Answers was deserted by Google and then stopped, whereas Yahoo Answers had promotions with people like Oprah Winfrey or Stephen Hawking asking questions. - Philipp Lenssen

hey guys, why don't you try yahoo services ? http://developer.yahoo.com/everyth... - TiTi

Google develop with the user in mind and take on board and incorporate the users feedback. Can't think of a "net" life without the big G now. - Rob Brammeld

Flickr is fine as it is ... it just grows. Yahoo has other good, homegrown properties that actually need something doing to, but not Flickr necessarily. - Robert Denton

Mitchell Tsai

World's Best Pools & Beaches [Hyd-masti - 10/13/08] - http://www.hyd-masti.com/2008...

October 17, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Looks wicked, I need a holiday to get away from all the doom and gloom! - Joe Dawson

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Ok, I'm moving there tomorrow. :P - imabonehead

I'm there .... ughh! - Charlie Anzman

Ooh! - Mike Reynolds

For you, Harold. I know you probably already see it. - Kamilah Gill

Does anybody know where it is located? - Jérôme

Jérôme and Robert: This the W Retreat & Spa in the Maldives (French) http://laperlenoire.ch/maldive... (English translation of French) http://translate.google.com/transla... - Mitchell Tsai

It is a New W Hotel in the Maldives -- you beat me to it! - RAPatton

Robert: I wondered where your comment went to. I was afraid I accidentally deleted it... - Mitchell Tsai

See also http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mitchell Tsai

You didn't. As soon as posted it, I saw someone else did the same thing, so I deleted to get rid of the redundancy and went looking for the answer. Then I posted the answer but when it refreshed you had beaten me to it. - RAPatton

Wow, stunning!! man i need vacation soo bad! - Susan Beebe

I want to live there. Oh man. - Sarah Perez

Robert: Total coincidence. I just woke up & checked FriendFeed when you did. Jérôme's comment asking for the location was 2 hrs ago. How did you find it? I looked in TinEye on the first picture, and luckily there was a match. - Mitchell Tsai

Susan: FriendFeed gathering in the Maldives? I totally forgot about the Florida gathering next week... - Mitchell Tsai

I searched for W hotels on the water and eyeballed it - RAPatton

Any other favorite W hotels? - Mitchell Tsai

I spent 2 weeks at the W Maldives in July. It's a piece of heaven. - Mohamed J

Mo: Envious in Texas... :-) How'd you hear about the W Maldives? - Mitchell Tsai

It was for my honeymoon :) I booked through Emirates Holidays and the agent made the suggestion. Best time of my life. - Mohamed J

Oooh. A honeymoon. Double envy! - Mitchell Tsai

From the trip - http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Mohamed J

Thanks Mo! I liked your closeup of the "W" sign. - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell Tsai

Top 10 Common Dreams And Their Meanings [The List Universe - 10/7/08] - http://listverse.com/science...

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This was a surprise. Of the top 10, I don't recall ever having (3) Bad or Missing Teeth (5) Ill or Dying (6) Failing a Test (7) Missed a Boat or Plane (8b) Trapped (9) Faulty Machinery (10) Car Troubles. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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What do other people think? Do you have most of these "Top 10" types of dreams? - Mitchell Tsai

I have recurring giant robot dreams.But a few of these too - Mo Kargas

Mo: What are the giant robots like? Have they changed since you were a kid? I have a lot of "being chased" James Bond dreams (When I was approx age 6, I decided I could materialize weapons and fly in my dreams to combat the bad guys). Falling. Nudity in improper situations. - Mitchell Tsai

I have the standard "in school and suddenly realised I had a class I never went to" dream. But then I realise in my dream that even when I was in school I skipped classes all the time and still passed, and anyhow I'm an adult now and high school no longer matters. - Nine

I frequently have dreams like 1, 3, 4, and 7. However, 8 (being lost) is the 'winner'. - Yolanda

I HAVE had the "loss of control over a car" dream, but it was after a car accident. Mostly I dream about being in a great big shopping mall and wandering around for hours and hours and hours. And sometimes (no, I'm not being funny) giant robots. - Nine

Never had the "in school and suddenly realised I had a class I never went to" dream. One of my female friends just was telling me about her vivid dreams. She flies a lot in her dreams (like I do), but she somehow also manages to have sex with all the people she wants. I could never manage that one. When I get really excited in my dreams, I wake up. Bummer. - Mitchell Tsai

@Mitchell Just really vivid bloody and violent dreams of mechanized war machines of impossible heights. Sometimes they have wheels or float, sometimes they are classically humanoid in appearance and also of the 'war of the worlds' variety. Hard to explain - Mo Kargas

Wow. I have lots of people chasing me in dreams, but I don't think they've ever come in massive war machines. Hmm... Guess I got a lot of comic variations of "bud guys", but not that one. - Mitchell Tsai

I've had a few really vivid dreams about the world ending. Those are always fun. - Yolanda

@Mitchell Sometimes I commit scrawls of them to paper in a scrapbook or try make them in 3DS Max, I'll scan them one of these days - Mo Kargas

I used to have alien dreams *all the time* when I was 9-13 or so. Very vivid, so much so that I can still remember some of them 20 or so years later. In the early 90s, I had occasional dreams about beating Michael Jordan in basketball because I could fly. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I have the shopping mall dream a lot, and I've had the teeth falling out one a couple of times several years ago. - Kamilah Gill

nothing about flying dream :( - Arash

@Arash, I agree I use to have dreams I could fly short distances as a child.But now that I'm an adult, I am able to fly further distances and maintain elevation for longer periods of time. Could this be a sign of me latent-"Heroes" ability perhaps? - Terence

@ Terence I don't know i wish to read more about it on that link - Arash

When I fly, eventually my pursuers also learn how to fly. Continual war of escalation! :-) - Mitchell Tsai

I used to have dreams that my cars required pedals so instead of hitting the gas, I would have to pedal it. Other then that, I used to frequently have dreams of falling or flying, nudity, or being chased. - Jason Shultz

The meaning of dreams depends on cultures . - Arash

Arash: What are the meanings of dreams in your culture? A lot of Chinese people recall dreams to process their meanings. - Mitchell Tsai

I have 6, 4, 2 and 1. When I was in elementary school we would race to the fence and back. I dream I can fly to the fence. I have recurring dreams about failing the test. - Russellreno

Whenever I have a dream about the world ending, it's usually because of something they are talking about on Coast to Coast. I sleep with the radio on a lot and they replay Coast to Coast in the morning. - Jason Shultz

Jason - I am reminded I dream of driving a car and have no control. I hate that one. - Russellreno

I would have thought my dream of being on a beach by a nice blue ocean would be more common. - Harold from fftogo

@Mitchell really i don't know meaning of them what i said is a part of my psychology course my professor says that if you have a patient from a restricted cultural zone you must know their culture to decide about them. - Arash

Russell: Perhaps you can convince your car to fly. ;-) - Mitchell Tsai

Strangely ... after i started skydiving i have never had a falling dream since. i guess once you dont fear falling its not a suitable way to tell you something :) - Chris Johnson

After skydiving & rockclimbing, I still occasionally go off cliffs in my dreams, but it's usually a non-scary event where I start flying... I never noticed if my "lack of fear" of flying happened before/after I went skydiving/rockclimbing. Hmmm... - Mitchell Tsai

I often have dreams where I can't focus my eyes and they were cross eyed. also had a dream where I jumped over a gap only to find myself floating higher and higher, with the panic setting in that it'll kill me. When I was 6 or 7 I dreamt that I was on life support in my early 30's when they pulled the plug. I was 3rd party to this watching the scene. It was the same year I dreamt an apocalpyse scene (rubbled buildings, red sky, skull piles), about 5 years before I had even heard of the Terminator films. - alphaxion

Holy crap! This list looks as if someone reached into my head and pulled out my dreams. I've dreamt combinations of all of these scenarios, especially being late or missing a ride and the falling dream, althought I usually end up jumping long distances. - Steven Perez

Anyone else have an over-active imagination? Mine are quite bizarre and hardly make any sense. A friend of mine only had dreams of colours and shapes, which I've never heard of before. - Anna Choi

Josh Haley

Hello Kitty is just like you and me

October 1, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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She's cleaning out her FriendFeed subscriptions, getting rid of noise. - Josh Haley

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA - Anna Haro

That looks like straining. She should eat more fiber - Bryan Clark

how'd she get up there? - Neil Bernhart

lol Neil. Sanrio trampoline, maybe? - Josh Haley

I don't know about you lot but I take my bow off when doing twosies. - Akiva Moskovitz

LOL Akiva! And her overalls are still up...Hmm, perhaps this is NOT the way to go, people. - Josh Haley

Ate tooo much BACON!!! ha, ha!! - Susan Beebe

The toilet is too big for Hello Kitty! - Leon Ho

uunnnh! - Josh Haley

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-cont... - B. Hatin

Corie

WTF? - http://www.flickr.com/photos...

October 2, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Does it work on foreheads? - Chris Rivait

w00t! - ※Fu※

I should order one of those - Josh Haley

YES PLEASE - Anna Haro

I could totally use this!! - Susan Beebe

Too many people are thinking about the wrong message, the teacher is telling the student to Work Till Finished. - Bob Gannon

Yeah, I totally want one!!!!! :-) - Corie

LOVE! - Lindsay

I would like a handsome WTF / WTH set, please. - Ayşe E.

I'm sure you could get them made. :-) - Corie

where can one purchase such a wonderful thing? - acedanger

http://www.rubberstampchamp.com/custom... - Corie

I need that stamp. - Fancy Fembot

WANT. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Here's how it looks: http://www.rubberstampchamp.com/FixedSi... - Corie

The big office supply stores will custom-design any kind of stamp you want. This is probably less than five bucks. - Pete Delucchi

Yeah, the one of the website I liked to is $6.25 - Corie

No desk is complete without. - Christopher Harley

i ordered a stamp with that 4 years ago and it got stolen within a week. :( - Admiral Anika

I need this when I reject a proposal. - Leon Ho

leon you can use karateexplosions logic meter: http://flickr.com/photos... - Admiral Anika

I have one of those stamps. I also have OMG! - Trish R

Hahaha, that's awesome, Trish. :-) - Corie

Sean: I was wondering the same thing... - Corie

I just remembered I have an alphabet's worth of single-letter stamps! With punctuation. Sweet. or should I say FTW. - Donna Mugavero

hahaha, Donna! :-) - Corie

Paul Buchheit

Warren Buffett explains the credit crisis to Charlie Rose | mathoda.com - http://mathoda.com/archive...

October 2, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"We leveraged up and if you have a 20 percent fall in value of a $20 trillion asset, that’s $4 trillion. And when $4 trillion lands — losses land in the wrong part of this economy, it can gum up the whole place.” People should have known better but in some way’s it’s unavoidable with markets: “People should always know better. … I mean people — people don’t get — they don’t get smarter about things that get as basic as greed and you can’t stand to see your neighbor getting rich. You know you’re smarter than he is, and he’s doing these things, you know, and he’s getting rich, and your spouse is getting unhappy with you because you aren’t doing — pretty soon you start doing it. And so you get what I call the natural progression, the three I’s: the innovators, the imitators, and the idiots. And that’s what happens. Everybody just kind of goes along. And you look kind of silly if you disagree." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet

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Can someone please engrave this on a plaque somewhere? Maybe we could have it etched into some tablets from the mountaintop and have churches predicated on these words. - Christopher Sacca

Right on! Yep, i am very "silly" ...not a jonesy type anymore.... we gave away much of our "cool stuff" and now have a mimimalist home ...MUCH BETTER and the best part, no stinking debt, except house and 1 car. The bank was all too ready to sock us deep into debt. We decided against that and are very happy with our decision to borrow only half what was offered (more realistic with cushion to $pare) - Susan Beebe

Unsure imitators and idiots don't simply continue on their merry way under bailout. - AJ Kohn

@AJ all the bailout does is buy time. We're merely delaying the inevitable, I think. If the imitators and the idiots keep doing what they're doing, we'll just be right back here again, except probably even worse off. - Victor Ganata

@Victor: Sadly, I agree. - AJ Kohn

Warren gets it, and he's a pretty straight shooter. These are the kind of heartland values politicians should be espousing. - LogEx

@Susan - we also just bought a house (closing on Tuesday) for half what we were pre-approved for. - Robert Felty

Warren: "And all I can say is beware of geeks, you know, bearing formulas.” - carolh

Paul, I've posted the video of the full interview- http://nicefishfilms.com/blog... Charlie Rose's site is being hammered with traffic today. - michael sean wright

A lot of people have criticized Paulson, here's what Buffett says: "I don’t think you can have a better secretary of the Treasury than Hank Paulson … he knows markets, he knows corporations’ work, he knows money, and he’s got the interests of the country at heart." - Sanjeev Singh

Buffett for President? - Admiral70

Here is my new motto, <geek>Live below your means, but get enough technology to have some fun.</geek> - joe is...

To have my blog post distributed on Friendfeed by The Paul Buchheit is pretty damn cool. Thanks :) - Ranjit Mathoda

Buffett (and Charlie Rose also) two of the smartest minds I've heard - Alex Hammer

directeur

Ok duplicate detection is done, when will you integrate parents detection?

October 3, 2008 from NoiseRiver - Comment - Like - Share

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parent detection activated...with directeur's clever highlighting - Pete Delucchi

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Heheh, needs "son of ..." detection. - Robert Scoble

ha, ha!! - Susan Beebe

...or more generically, "offspring of {name}" - imabonehead

Mark Wilson

In-N-Out 100x100 - http://whatupwilly.blogspot.com/2006...

October 2, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Please take a CAREFUL look the picture on the right. There is a common misperception that the 100x100 has a hundred buns. No, that's not true. It's one set of buns and ONE HUNDRED meat patties and ONE HUNDRED pieces of sweaty-oily cheese in between the buns. Clearly, the worst part of this experience wasn't the meat..it was the sweaty cheese." - Mark Wilson from Bookmarklet

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Yummy. - Alex Scoble

Tony from Zappos was involved. - Vincent X

Oh. Just oh. Actually, also, no. ick. - ♥patricia♥

holy moly! that's a monster burger! I love that place, too.. but not that much! - Susan Beebe

This answers the question my friends and I always asked in college: what would a 100x100 look like. - Kevin Bondelli

I watched someone eat a 4X4 once and my heart skipped a beat. - Pete Delucchi

Oh I've done the 4x4 on a dare before. It hurt. - Kevin Bondelli

So Kevin, what you're saying is that the 100x100 looks like a whole lot of awesome, right? Heart exploding awesome? - Mark Wilson

Mark, that is exactly what I'm saying. - Kevin Bondelli

Anything involving meat and melty cheese gets the a-ok in my world. Bring it on. - ::Kristen::

*barf!* - Susan Beebe

I ain't mad at that. +100x100 - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

we got one of these for a party once. it was interesting because we were all given extra buns. - Admiral Anika

too. much. and then we wonder why the rest of the world hates americans...we're greedy and gluttonous. lolz - .LAG liked that

I could eat that for a month! - Morton Fox

ew ew ew. burgers are good but i can't do fast food microwave burgers. =\ - Krista K

God, seeing that makes me so hungry. Although I would have demanded that there be a bun between each slice, and must be able to stand upright with the aid of a wooden skewer. Thems the rules ;¬D - CannonGod

I'd hate to eat that and look like some crazy-assed chedder cheese bukkake poster boy, sayin'. - Eric Rice

I think I'm going to be sick. - DGentry

why are you all going to be sick? this is for a party, not one person. only think i'm mad about is now i want INO and the one near me sucks. - Admiral Anika

In n Out is awesome! - David Ward

Is INO any good? We don't have them up here in Canada. Is it comparable to McD's or BK? - Mark Wilson

Never had in-n-out, we only have the basics round here. McDonald's, BK, etc.. You guys are lucky. I can't even get a Checkers out this way. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

In N Out is rough around the edges, and is thus different from McDonalds, Burger King, or Tim Hortons. In my case, it was an acquired taste that took several years to develop. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo

I love In-n-Out. But not this much. :) - Daynah

According to the LA Times, they no longer will make anything larger than 4x4 - Victor Ryden

In-n-out is good stuff. For one thing, the sexual innuendo says a ton. For another, the fries are always freshly cut from real potatoes, right on site. Finally, the burgers are actually cooked, on a grill, old-fashioned diner-style, which means a long wait whether you go inside or attempt the diabolically long drive-thru. Oh, and they stay open late too, so all the insomniac kids flock to this place at night, which, if you're a kid, is probably a good thing. - Pete Delucchi

Victor, the LA Times is a liberal...oh who cares. I just wanted a burger! - Mark Wilson

I like In-N-Out, but thats just wrong. - CW™

why is that wrong? It's for a party or meeting just like if you were to get a 6 foot sub! - David Ward

David, this one didn't have buns in between each of the patties. It was just one long grease fest of meat & cheese. If it had buns in between, it would be comparable to a 6 foot sub or something. This thing is just an abomination. - Mark Wilson

Yeahhhhhhhh + SUPERSIZE MY FRIES!! Pass da Heinz Ketchy Please!! ;)) - Billy Warhol

Respect. I once ate 10 McDonalds hamburgers for a bet and almost threw up. I can't ordering imagine 10x that. - Jess Lee

l0ckergn0me

Caption This - http://geeks.pirillo.com/photo...

October 2, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Now do you see how you make it to the next level? Don't make me show you again. - David Price from Alert Thingy

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I CAN HAZ MARIOKART? - Alex Scoble

BUT I IZ WINNING - Josh Haley

+1 Alex - elroy

"DS Pocket Pets" - for when the owner's on holiday. - Steven Livingstone-Pérez from twhirl

My Pokemanz, let me show you them! - Phil G

I SWEARZ IT WAZ A POPUP! - Colby Olson

Oh Hai! No this is NOT kitteh porn on your DS - Vincent Guerrero from Alert Thingy

dis is how you pwn, noob. - Robert Cooper from twhirl

I BE RE-ARRANGIN' UR CALENDRZ!! UR TAKING ME TO KITTY TOY STOREZ TOMORROW! - Susan Beebe

"DUDE! Why can't I get on FriendFeed?!?!?" - Justin Korn

OH HAI I COMPLET UR POKEMONS - Joe Dawson

DID INTERNETZ GO DOWN? - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Human, you are not permitted to observe us utilizing the technology you have created for us. Prepare to die. Meow. - Internet's Tad

"Just DS Lite? Want DSi!" - Jemm

Down with Nintendogs! - M. Serdar Kuzuloglu

DS BLEWZ MY EARZ OFF! - Jesse Stay

WHEHEZ MY STYLUZ??? - Leon Ho

Good evening, Mr. Bond, my name is Pussy Galore...I know, I know, not exactly what you were expecting... - .LAG liked that

I IZ TRYINGZ TO VOTZZ FOR OBAMA CUZ I HATE NUKULAR CHICKZ - Susan Beebe

That's one geeky kitty. - imabonehead

Mona Nomura

How to FriendFeed at Work! - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthr...

September 30, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Is that you, Mona?? :) - imabonehead

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I remember this with the laptop haha! - Andrew Trinh

haha!!! - Carmen

:) - Vahid۹Online

Vahid!! :)!!!! - Mona Nomura

Too funny !!! - Nir Ben Yona

Privacy - M∂s♥ud

:))))) - امیرعباس

lol - Cee Bee

Mona!! :)!!!! - Vahid۹Online

I haven't seen you in a while, Vahid! YAY! - Mona Nomura

HIPAA compliance to the max! ha, ha! - Susan Beebe

Ours too, that's what made me laugh when I first saw it! ha! - Susan Beebe

LOL! - Orli Yakuel

funny i use that same method. huh! thought I was the only one :) - (jeff)isageek

That's me!! EEKS! - Helen Sventitsky

Nice! I compiled some other privacy-enhancing apparel here... http://logicalextremes.blogspot.com/2007... - LogEx

Haha, not far from truth :p - Patrik Johansson

So funny, great Mona! - Kol Tregaskes

"How to make FriendFeed 3D." - Leon Ho

LOL! - BeeLing

A-MA-ZING! - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

http://friendfeed.com/e... - SibeVahshi

Too bad the IT department would still know that you are browsing non-work appropriate sites, and tell your boss. - Wizetux

Snitches!!! - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Nivi

The Laws of Productivity - http://venturehacks.com/article...

October 1, 2008 from Venture Hacks - Comment - Like - Share

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So most of us (startups) are going against this productivity law... - Leon Ho

Robert Scoble

View of NYC from Hudson Hotel

October 1, 2008 from email - Comment - Like - Share

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I am at Fast Company's Masters of Design party at the top of the Hudson hotel on a stunning evening with at ton of cool designers. Eat your heart out! - Robert Scoble from email

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I hope you enjoy NYC, I'm enjoying your photo. - Bob Gannon

Stunning view Robert, that is really a great view... Enjoy lucky dog!! - Susan Beebe

no invite for me? - Allen Stern

hudson hotel? you're just living it up aren't you? - Cee Bee

the lobby bar also does not suck, if i remember correctly. - Karim

Wait a minute - that's a shot from CSI NY! Five bucks says Scoble's in a hotel room in Poughkeepsie. - Heather

Allen: come on over, we will get into late night trouble! - Robert Scoble

No more shower photos ok?!! LOL - Susan Beebe

the showers at the Hudson have a glass wall that provides visibility from the *room* into the shower. i kid you not. - Karim

I love that hotel. Love their yellow escalators. They told me I couldn't take pictures in their bar there, but I still snuck plenty anyways. - Thomas Hawk

There is nothing like NYC - Tim FitzGerald

I stated there once. The rooms were tiny and walls were thin. But it was great for partying. - Andrew Warner

What, you couldn't wait a few days? :) Be back in the city early next week. Long overdue! - Charlie Anzman

I stayed at Hudson Hotel for Web 2.0 Expo NY last month.. Didn't have chance to look at this view. - Leon Ho

Nice view :p - Sébastien

they have a nice theater for a gathering - probably 80seats - Allen Stern

John Samuelson

iPhone Air Mouse - http://rpatechnology.com/airmous...

October 2, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Another ingenious app. But I wish it could use Bluetooth instead of wifi. - John Samuelson from Bookmarklet

I like it, but it costs $5.99. Will read more reviews before actually buying it... - Leon Ho

If I had a Mac mini media setup at home, I'd buy in a flash. But otherwise I could see this being handy in a hotel room or something, but unfortunately where 9 times out of 10 there is no (free) wifi. So even though I think it's ingenious I am struggling to find a situation where I would use it. - John Samuelson

John Samuelson

NumberKey - http://www.balmuda.com/en...

October 2, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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I'm not sure how practical, but ingenious. - John Samuelson from Bookmarklet

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