Leo knows so well that I was like how do I get the comments by themselves and then he said click the time stamp! Woo Leo! First time listening to the live feed - I'm only here because I am such a fan of Molly of Veronica! Yay for Buzz report & Qore!
- Jonathan Day
Wouldn't there be an audio issue if it was a wifi issue?
- Ryan
An awesome panel yet again. I won't be able to watch because I'm on public library Wi-Fi, but I look forward to downloading the MP3 tomorrow. Have fun everyone!
- Eric Geller
Not to sound like a commercial for Windows 7, but watching Leo on full screen with IE 7, pretty nice. For those that are Windows Users, you have something to look forward too, and I m running intensive gaming apps at once!
- RALPH
"Federated twitter" e.g. laconica is great in theory, but in practice it won't work unless Twitter approves, supports it, and collaborates
- Ken Sheppardson
Gary I had no problem with any of the FFox 3.5.x updating twitter
- Greg
Well the downtime shows how important people think it is...
- Jonathan Day
Given Twitter's role in the Iranian elections, stuff like this is bound to be big news.
- Garance Alistair
Why? It's just not that important. Come on!
- Allyn Edmonds
Sans.org said last week was GREEN - so no major issues on the web :
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
I'm looking at cell phones and going to be curious about how people feel about the MyTouch, since I refuse to go iPhone, though the Galaxy isn't far off...
- Patrick Sullivan
Will there be a mass exodus from at&t when the iPhone ends up on Verizon?
- Jim Bednarz
The Google/Apple FCC saga will end with the FCC stepping in saying allow the app.
- Luis
Yep, until the day the Tablet is announced. Ohh, Ahh.
- Mike
@TalktoMeGuy: I am in southern New Jersey (Ocean County).
- Dale Feinstein
Yeah that tablet rumour is worrying me...
- Jonathan Day
Apple is not consistent with approval process.
- DesertWeather
Most of the people with iPhones I know have only a few apps and love it. GV isn't going to touch them
- Carey Lumeng
Google Voice is Sweet ! I use it a Lot !
- TalkToMeGuy
The developer note published on Saturday says that “based on the current app submission, 96 percent of applications are being approved within 14 days.”
- Eric Boehs
Google Voice is appealing to anybody who has more than one phone number of voicemail system, i.e. home and work. I think y'all are going just a *little* overboard with the "We only care because we're the tech elite" argument
- Ken Sheppardson
Awh!! Chumby is so cute, yeah I want one too ladies, I want that very fancy alarm clock.
- Jonathan Day
@aron Coe Watching TWIT on the Mac watching FriendFeed stream on iPhone
- Jacqueline
from iPhone
I like Apple, but I'm annoyed about Google-Voice getting blocked. I do know some people who really don't understand the point to Google Voice, and we can't explain it to them.
- Garance Alistair
twitter is bigger then digg now, wow didn't know that
- Dakota O'Neill
Google understands the nature of a distributed network infrastructure. My guess is Twitter... less.
- Ken Sheppardson
bing will have them before the end ot the year, ha
- EvilMonkey
I think the face recognition on Molly's Webcam is on - stopping the picture from time to time?
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Facebook is doing everything that Classmates.com wanted to do, except Classmates.com turned into a total ad agency.
- Garance Alistair
Yeah, if you write a page about a topic, guess what... it pops up pretty high in the list of relevant articles for that topic. (i.e. wikipedia)
- Ken Sheppardson
Plus Wikipedia often holds the answers to whatever you're searching google for.
- Jonathan Day
Where did google's deep search go, advanced search?
- Adrian
The "same old thing" aspect of Google is why I use Yahoo and Bing... and dmoz.
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
I took the Search Engine Blind Test and I picked Yahoo.
- Gary Kostrivas
Are you a good writer if you are a good SEO-Writer = language will transform into - 1 2 3 blah talking points
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
People like finding info in a familiar format... Wikipedia gives them that
- Jim Shaver
I find del,icio.us search continues to provide me with the best result.
- Adrian
I think one side-effect of Google being so successful is that fewer people have their own web pages with links to sites. And those other links used to be one of the ways Google decided what pages should be on the first page.
- Garance Alistair
Yes, if many people think an article is relevant... isn't it... you know... more likely to be relevant?
- Ken Sheppardson
Wasn't it Alex on Macbreak that was putting forward the theory that there was orginally only one Steve, and that some strange time/space discontinuity split him into Woz and Jobs?
- Ken Sheppardson
Funny how technology of all things makes us think about these "social" questions.
- Adrian
Not allowing "targeted messaging" on Twitter seriously constrains the potential to commercialize the service.
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't mind people who advertise "their stuff", but not an ad that someone is paying to insert their commercial in someone else's life.
- Garance Alistair
A big problem with spam ads is that they suck. They are not interesting or helpful. Compelling ads or products don't usually make spam. Just a thought.
- Joel R
If you DM me with an add - It invades my privacy! That's why I unfollow!
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
The line is most blurred on TWiT when it comes to Drobo on Macbreak and TWiP
- Ken Sheppardson
Alex, Scott, etc. are all fans of the product, who are also paid to "evangelize", in a sense
- Ken Sheppardson
You choose what twitter is for you, it can be about conversation with people who interest you or it can be following tonnes of random people.
- Jonathan Day
I don't like the idea because somebody could make it look like an ad but it might actually be say a website with a virus.
- Dakota O'Neill
We at times becomes enamored with brands.
- Adrian
Yes, Oprah is on twitter to advertise herself. But the people *FOLLOWING* Oprah are following her because they expect that. They want Oprah's ads.
- Garance Alistair
Every ad from somebody makes me unfollow him/her - period . It's a sell-out.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Also, Twitter is the company which is spending all the money to make the service available, and these commercials are not financially helping Twitter.
- Garance Alistair
Humans are inherently internally inconsistent and hypocritical, and we don't like it when other people do things we think it's OK to do ourselves. We all just need to learn to live with it and move on. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I am Mad about DIGG.COM's sponsored stories!!! I think that is just as messed up as ad tweets
- Nick Young
I love Molly Rants !! I finally lived long enough to hear bull crap and Oprah's name [brand] used in the same sentence !!
- TalkToMeGuy
I've been seeing a lot of twitter spam bots that have 4 random facts, and then one ad. I removed them
- Daniel E. Renfer
What if the ads were personally selected by the person on twitter ?
- Jason Cartwright
@Rick I agree, though I'd give it two years at the most
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
as long as you put a mute tag in the tweet so I can mute it
- min
Leo has difficulty seeing other point of view here. As for me, I just won't follow an ad dropper. So some people will drop ads, and others won't. What's the big debate about?
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Just let the market decide. If their content isn't important enough to you, you stop following, if their content is important to you, you're gonna continue following even if they have ads
- Stephen Pickering
Preternat: He's trying to reconcile his same basic reaction with the sponsorship system on TWiT
- Ken Sheppardson
URL shortening is a commodity with no marginal value. All the services will start to fall by the wayside, and it'll just become a feature of other sites and services.
- Ken Sheppardson
I agree and disagree, I follow certain people to advertise what they wrote or did not advertise someone elses product. I block people who only post ads, it's spam to me. I don't use twitter for ads, I use it more as an RSS in a way
- Dave Hoffman / N3PRO
from twhirl
Why can't Twitter automatically convert the shortened URLs to the actual URLs?
- Dale Feinstein
He needs money for his podcast not Twitter, Twitter is free his cost to buy stuff to make his broadcast better isn't, so ads help to make back the money he spends to bring the program to us.
- Jacob Chimilar
from iPod
marketing guys and spammers love url-shorteners - click, click like 20 years ago
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Bit.ly has a Firefox plugin to preview
- Nick Young
She should! She would be awesome, made to rant in a legal capacity.
- Jonathan Day
Isn't patent law fundamentally unchanged since it was developed in Italy back in the 15th century?
- Ken Sheppardson
This conversation would be very different if @acedtect & @therealdvorak were here
- Mike
you have to be an engineer to be a patent lawyer, right ?
- cxx dxx
Going to law school to study patent law these days is equivalent to going into engineering to learn about buggy whip dynamics
- Ken Sheppardson
patents try to increase innovation where there is none. We have plenty of innovation in the tech world and the current patent regime stifles it
- Jim Shaver
It used to be that you could apprentice with an attorney for seven years, and that would allow you to sit for the Cal BAR in CA. Not anymore. You have to take classes at a law school now. You can, however, pass law school and call yourself a JD (Juris Doctorate).
- shelter watch
Can't skip past the ad on the live stream can you? >_<
- Jonathan Day
No, Jonathan, you can't. 'cause they sneak in content during the ad ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
if you stop the stream and come back in... say 20 mins
- Jim Shaver
@Ken, Leo makes content out of the ads. He's just that good.
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
btw thanks for following back Twit-Army - friendfeed is handy for 'subscribing' to you :)
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
He's certainly mastered the Paul Harvey ad format :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm not taking that risk, there might some gems of content hidden in the ad in that case. That being said I might actually give Squarespace a try - need to sort out my wordpress.com blog.
- Jonathan Day
There's an online law school (non-ABA approved) which allows you to sit for the BAR for $3K plus per year. There's another law school which meets only M-TH at night only for people who want to have a law degree for nonprofit type purposes (People's Law School or something like that). $5K plus per year.
- shelter watch
Just upgrade the old tunes to iTunes+ . She probably can't upgrade all the old tunes, but most of them. (I've upgraded most of mine, but some songs don't show up for upgrades for some reason)
- Garance Alistair
Online Law School - Degree - Northwestern California UniversityNorthwestern California University is an entirely online law school with ... Address: 2151 River Plaza Drive, Suite 306 Sacramento, CA 95833 http://www.nwculaw.edu
- shelter watch
So Lance Armstrong just signed on to join a RadioShack sponsored cycling team... I wonder how "The Shack" will go over as an international brand...
- Ken Sheppardson
Like they have any electronics left in them anyway
- Anthony
The little reference paperbacks I carry with me most often are ~4.5"x7". That's 8" corner to corner. A device that size would be pretty darn handy.
- Ken Sheppardson
Oh it is getting late here over on the Emerald Isle, might need to call it a night. I will try and hold on another while because I am enjoying this lovely group.
- Jonathan Day
NSA is the grand daddy and it knows all the dirty tricks.
- min
CyberTsar is a cool title though . What do you do? I'm the CyberTsar!!
- Chris Gilmore
My honest guess would be that as soon as most 'cyber czar' candidates see what the NSA, et al are already doing they realize they really don't have a role other than PR
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't think regulations are "too stifling," but I do think walking into a role like that brings with it an unparalleled exposure to bureaucracy...at a level you wouldn't get even as a CIO of some of the largest companies
- Marco Iacono
The start of Infinite Jest is worth the whole thing - and the paperback is 10 bucks
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
I thought that there is some type of law which requires a non-US citizen to only own a certain amount (percentage) of media. There was a big deal with Rupert Murdock about 10 or so years ago over this. Maybe he became a citizen?
- shelter watch
they are forced to not give bs comment on michael jackson and what not when there is a election crisis
- aleser
Weren't you going to mention OpenStreetMap Leo?
- Patrick Sullivan
don't forget OPEN STREET MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!
- Jim Shaver
where does it tell you, how long you have been on twitter
- Dakota O'Neill
Is the twit listen option new or did I miss it all those times? My EVDO works when it wants to, right now I only have 1XRTT speed of around 100K. Definitely better than dial up here in the boonies which is what I had b4.
- shelter watch
twit listen has been available for awhile now
- russellcoleman
Tonight Facebook has made a number of updates to the Facebook platform one of which is the opening of status updates. In order to get Facebook statuses, you no longer need to use a session ID to access statuses. This is a huge update and one that I think is going to take Facebook to the next level. There are additional updates listed in the Facebook blog post: Not everyone has 2k+ followers on FB to get a viral comment going the same as Twitter . FB = inner circle; Twitter = public party."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
so does this mean that more Facebook stuff will be filtering into FF?
- Thomas Hawk
It would be nice to be able to rely on Twitter as connective tissue for social media.
- Christian Anderson
This'll be an interesting change to the balance of power. If there is such a thing. Still, I'm hanging out on twitter, not FB (accounts on both of course though).
- Bryan Duke
Good question, Thomas. I wonder if it'll make notes importing functional with the default Facebook share type, without having to add them as a separate RSS feed.
- Tyson Key
It's up to FF if they're going to support FB's FQLs.
- Mona Nomura
Hmmm, time for a twitterific-style iPhone app for FB statuses?
- Bryan Duke
A facebook-centric blog says that a new facebook feature will kill a competitor? Ummm, no. No bias there...
- Owen Byrne
I don't see FB killing twitter, they serve two different purposes.Twitter is elegant in it's simplicity.
- Gary H
and Facebook is gonna kill Friendfeed too: "The real loser here is probably friendfeed, honestly. If facebook wins aggregation from many sources with this move, they’ll effectively kill friendfeed’s differentiation factor. they already have user-base, volume of relavent content to handle a mass influx of updates plus the digested format of the newsfeed that people already expect. They...
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- Alejandro
I like Nick, I do, but he is delusional LOL
- Mona Nomura
I doubt Facebook will kill FriendFeed, since FriendFeed is generally much more open in comparison (i.e. you don't need to approve friends, and the site feels much more "free-form"), not to mention that Facebook's aggregator only supports a limited number of sites natively, without using 3rd party applications.
- Tyson Key
Seriously, what is FQL? LOL And you better believe when bigger 3rd party services start using FB's messed up API they will NOT stay quiet about how messed up it is. They have the potential to be heard more than FB app devs - the only ones that actually utilized the API to begin with so FB better have their stuff together. Like I said on Twitter AND AllFacebook, FB is NOTORIOUS for being developer unfriendly. So LOL at the notion that FB will be a 'killer' anything.
- Mona Nomura
@Mona - Some proprietary bastardisation of SQL apparently, although there's an implementation in their "Facebook Open Platform" source code drop that they made eons ago, that I doubt they update, if I remember correctly.
- Tyson Key
As Facebook would call it, "an evolved subset" ;)
- Tyson Key
Ya along with their FBJS or whatever that is. Hilarious.
- Mona Nomura
@Thomas - Hah, great screenshot. Did you accept the "toy car request", "addicted to dexter invitation" and "winnie the pooh request" invitations? ;)
- Tyson Key
Well what stinks is that FB was all gung ho with 'normal people' monetizing on the apps we (users) hated so much. I mentioned in Leo's thread (man too many FB posts tonight) but FB screwed over the devs. Stats don't lie http://adonomics.com/about.... With a crappy track record like that, why would 3rd party developers want to support FB's initiatives? And TH LOL!! That is insane. I actually have a different group of people I interact with on FB. I kinda like it. ;)
- Mona Nomura
So when will twhirl allow setting status on Facebook messages?
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
FB overtake FriendFeed? I'd like to see FF gain more market share so at least FB is forced to re-do a few of their news feed features. I tried "importing" my blog thinking it would put links to my posts in my FB feed a la FriendFeed. Instead FB monitors your RSS feed, scraping the full text of your blog posts and creating FB notes, keeping the visitor inside their walled garden. Bush league.
- Tom Harrison