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OH: "if I can believe in how the unemployment rate is calculated, I can believe in Santa."
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I think some people should just stop crossposting all their stuff including @s and RTs to Facebook, it is pollution in most cases
Matt Robson, Matthias Schwenk, Paul Papadimitriou and 30 other people liked this
I post ev ererything from FriendFeed to Twitter to FB. Keeps the followers to those who are interested
- Steve Gillmor
Oddly, no one has ever acknowledged the massive number of entries that Friendfeed pumps into my Facebook stream.
- Vezquex
Agree! Especially if u use @peoplebrowsr like me ;) really need to clean up the autopost mess. Wish somebody could invent some smart cross posting strategies and share their wisdom :)
- Jan Friman
from Nambu
I do it selectively, see http://www.jeffsandquist.com/synchro...
- Jeff Sandquist
I don't feed any of the SM stuff to facebook, waste of time, both for others and myself.
- Richard A.
Yeah, I'm with Gillmor, using FF as the primary tap into the SM hose. Figure it will eventually build brand and traffic back to FF.
- Thom Kennon
I agree with Loic and disagree with S.Gillmor, as much as I admire him, crossposting is broadcasting. Each of these services have their own flavor, a different set of friends. A different interaction is appropriate in each. It works best when we respect the differences and create unique exchanges on the various services we use.
- stephen harlow
Steve, problem is that you don't get the replies and FB comments so you don't really interact except on FF comments right?
- Loic Le Meur
Here's how I do it, Loic: http://www.slideshare.net/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
loic, I do get the replies via Twitterspy and FB comments via email. When track returns I'm all set
- Steve Gillmor
i don't mind getting stuff twice, makes it less likely i miss something
- Christopher Harris
What's Facebook?
- Richard Carter, FCD
@Richard Carter, FCD - I think it's something like this:- http://www.georgegroves.org.uk/photoal...
- Graham Steel
I found something very interesting. I posted almost nothing on Facebook for the past year, so I didn't lose any of my high quality followers (which include CEOs and big name press from across the tech industry). But then I tried putting friendfeed/Twitter in there and I started getting complaints, so I stopped it. I now post things specifically for my Facebook friends on Facebook and try to let everyone know that my main place of posting is friendfeed now.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still trying to find the optimal ratio of posting. The problem is there simply isn't enough technology to do what I want. I may write something if no one accomplishes what I need for this.
- Jesse Stay
I never used facebook extensively and like to keep my accounts separate. I think friendfeed is the most intelligent of all social web apps.
- Ashish
Agreed. I've been more mindful of cross posting and never did it with my FB status.
- Mark Gehrke
I agree with Loic in cases where people use Twitter primarily as a tool for one to one or fragmented communications and the fact that he used "some people" and "most cases" leads me to believe some people don't fit the mold. I find myself being one of those. I currently cross-post >90% of my stuff to FF/FB/Twitter. That said, I consciously make an effort to put context in every one of my outbound messages & if something doesn't warrant cross-posting I don't do it.
- Mark Krynsky
A discreet compromise would be to use something like the Social RSS application in FB to show your routine Twitter traffic on a tab separate from your main page.
- Paul Robertson
When you get multiple duplicates of the same message on friendfeed because it's also posted to tumblr, thats the worst.
- Matt Robson
thank you all for your feedback. Looks like there are very different styles and the comments here are mostly from friendfeed lovers (which I understand why they like it), very different pattern from what I see from non friendfeed users though
- Loic Le Meur
and your point?
- Steve Gillmor
Have you seen Jimmy Fallon's dupes, he needs to get his PA on it ASAP it's the social media equivalent of stuttering
- The Real sofarsoShawn
I had some problems with duplicate posting at first, but once I figured it out, it's been fine. FF is my principal gazinta, and it aggregatges all my gazoutas, but it doesn't multipost. That said, I try to keep the signal to bullshit ratio high....
- Alan Chamberlain
I like to be able to select (from FF0 what goes to FB like we can with Twitter.
- Kol Tregaskes
Loic 1 Gillmor 0 Let's keep them channels separate, they will find you if they love you. I love your Gillmor Gang however Steve! That's a sweet channel everyone should check out.
- Chad Harris
Araceli: How did you set that up?
- Garin Kilpatrick
Twitter should not be fed directly into Facebook in most cases, FB and Twitter are two completely different animals. Despite this bringing Facebook to Twitter is okay. The @replies are what pollutes the Twitter/FB Integration.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I agree with Loic and Scoble. Facebook is more real life friends and I share more personal and less techy stuff. Twitter is sort of like my id. Although now I'm giving friendfeed a go for a week so I may be making the switch full time. But, for the most part, I consider friendfeed and twitter to be the same result by different means. For me though, it remains to be seen which means I like better.
- James Poling
Garin: I use http://apps.facebook.com/twitter... to publish Twitter to Facebook. It doesn't post @s. For notifications I bring in this RSS as an imaginary friend for Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/notific... and for Twitter this one: http://twitter.com/replies
- Araceli
I'm with Gillmor - post here, almost exclusively, feed all to FB and Twitter.
- Thom Kennon
I had a grand mal seizure. Want to hear? - http://www.sarahlane.com/blog...
Kelly J, Eivind, Thomas and 17 other people liked this
Scary stuff, Sarah. I mean really - mushrooms on an omelette? :) Seriously, though, it's good to see you're feeling better and back to blogging. Hope your path to a full recovery is a clear and short one...
- Thomas
get well soon, :(
- chaz2b
get well soon!
- mjc
Back in the 90's, my late cat Basil had a few grand mal seizures. He used to sleep between my feet so the seizure would wake me up. I'd place him on the floor and his thrashing would move him across the carpet. After a bit, he'd stop. His eyes would be open but he was non-responsive. After another minute, he'd regain his senses and meow plaintively as if he realized something unusual...
more...
- George Brickner
My sister had a few when she was very young and it was terrifying. I'm glad you're feeling better and I hope that you don't experience anything more.
- joey
get well soon!
- Joe The Sausage
OMG.
- Dave Friedel
Nice survival reactions in the ambulance. I bet that drive will make a difference in your recovery.
- Todd Hoff
I finished the blog post... at least for now. Man, it took me forever. I want my brain back.
- Sarah Lane
Sarah - I'm glad you're feeling better, what a scary experience!
- Jennifer Dittrich
Oh my. Good luck with your neurologist appointment and I hope that you get the best diagnosis possible! I'm sorry about the medication with horrible side effects but glad that it exists and that you survived!
- joey
No alcohol? Won't you dissolve without your glue keeping you together? :)
- Thomas
Cysticercosis doesn't sound like fun - hopefully you'll be able to kick it with just meds (if you do have it)...
- Thomas
On the other hand, the BBB wiki page talks about using Nanotechnology for treatment - you could be Cyber-Sarah! :)
- Thomas
That's really scary. It's good you had people around to help out and get you to the hospital. I hated Dilantin while I was on it. I couldn't drink alcohol, and it made me drowsy at times. Plus it never completely stopped my seizures. There are more effective seizure medications with fewer side effects. The trouble is that they tend to be more effective.
- John (bird whisperer)
Thx guys. It's really just about positive thinking right now... everybody tells me not to stress out.. um, yeah.
- Sarah Lane
Just think - nanotechnology! It's all about the tech with you, Sarah... :)
- Thomas
As for positive thinking, would it help if we started teasing about your sudden forced sobriety? :)
- Thomas
This whole sobriety thing is just ridiculous. Come on, science.
- Sarah Lane
Have you tried near-beer? Do you drink for the taste or the buzz?
- Thomas
I've had a CT Scan twice. The contrast dye IV makes you feel like you're having a hot flash. Nothing head related though. I had a bone scan and EKGs. I've also had a few things that I won't mention (because no one wants to think about 'em).
- George Brickner
You world travelers have to be careful of those French Foreign Lesions! Take care.
- Steven W. Kelly
Someecards iPhone app rejected for making fun of celebrities? (some blog) - http://www.techmeme.com/091007...
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I'd like to reiterate my call for Facebook to open source the Friendfeed codebase (as AOL did when it bought Netscape). A federated OpenFriendfeed is the best for users - and fits Facebook's move toward an open social platform. I'll pay to run a server. Would you?
AJ Kohn, Carlton Hackett, Jimminy, CoG of FF and 211 other people liked this
I agree with this fully.
- Akiva
I can't imagine that the terms of the acquisition would permit this to happen. Oh, wait... Facebook take FriendFeed open source? Maybe in two or three years after they squeeze every bit of life out of it, ala Google/Jaiku
- Ken Sheppardson
Would that mean there would be dozens of Friendfeeds all trying to get us to come to them?
- Mark
I support this fully
- Ryan
yes what about a free GAE
- abdellah
Oh I agree. But with Facebook's record? HAHAH! Oh god, I need a mint.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'll file this away under "Never Gonna Happen"...
- Andrew Terry
Jaiku is not dead. It was bought for a reason, and yes, it will resurface soon. you just wait n see.
- binmugahid
yes
- andy brudtkuhl
I agree with Andrew...
- Suril Amin
I don't think I'd pay, but I'd love to have it open source
- Jake Anderson
Worked for AOL. We got Mozilla and they got a much improved Netscape.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, I think you have a little too much "hope" on this. Maybe you're just thinking if Facebook was smart, then they'd do that.
- Mark
Facebook is much smarter than you're giving them credit for. I think.
- Leo Laporte
great idea Leo, i'm 'cautiously optimistic' at this point in time about the future of FriendFeed... lets hope for the best people
- Chris Heath
There is no value in that to them. Why open source something that give them a competitive edge.
- binmugahid
I do not agree. It destroyed netscape. let Facebook use the best features of FriendFeed in it. Keep the talent like the four ex-google founders. Open source is not the answer to everything. sometimes Closed Source is better for the users as well. Just keep the innovations coming and it will be fine
- hasanahmad
They've got the Friendfeed team. That's probably what they really wanted. Getting the open source community working on the FF codebase and contributing it back to Facebook is a win for everyone.
- Leo Laporte
On the other hand, I ike to see Laconica (identi.ca) getting more like ff.
- Chanux
Wow did this just happen today?
- bravestface
yesterday
- Chris Heath
Open-sourcing Communicator may have ultimately destroyed Netscape as a brand but without that move, I suspect we'd all still be developing for IE6. Great call, Leo.
- Jared Smith
Excellent idea Leo.
- Arawak
I just can't stand Facebook. To many people I let in from my youth that I don;t want to see
- bravestface
Yes.
- .LAG liked that
You're assuming that Facebook bought the company JUST to get the developers, and not because they want to integrate many/most of the features into their service. If they want the features, they don't want a bunch of clones competing with them.
- Joel Bennett
I'll send you a hefty donation for that Leo.
- JCunwired
bravestface: That's not FB's fault you let them in. sheesh.
- Gus
when will twitter be back up any 1 know
- daveccorey
There already is an open source clone of twitter - see identi.ca and laconia or whatever it's called
- Doug Holton
True. very True Gus. My own fault. Perhaps I need to setup an Alias account that encompasses what i really want
- bravestface
I already run a Laconica server at http://army.twit.tv - I don't think we need another Twitter clone. We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer.
- Leo Laporte
hay hay hay, sin duda un tema un tanto escabrozo, pero entre Facebook y Google, esto no lleva a nada bueno.. i'ts a hard theme, no doubt about that, but between facebook and google we are going to hell !!!!!!
- Đoи яамoη
Or Pushbutton?
- bravestface
This would be amazing.
- Adam Teece
The Wave *protocal* might be a part of the answer... or just giving yourself over to whatever Google wants you to use might work (i.e. Wave, Reader, Gtalk, etc.)... but I don't really see Wave asdirect 1-for-1 FF replacement.
- Ken Sheppardson
Too many systems in place
- bravestface
They open sourced the Facebook code base (fbopen)... the license is very restrictive, however. FB owns all code modifications. Probably be the same license for FF.
- Kurt
In know people that have replaced their email with Twitter....that just isn't right...we need one locator that many systems can reach
- bravestface
Great idea Leo. Now let's see what they do, if they're listening.
- Kelly Mitchell
Leo - your last comment is why I think Facebook bought Friendfeed: "We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer." This is going to be a product they will launch in opposition of Google Wave. It will surface Q1 of 2010 and will have some of the same features that Wave has - but be closed sourced to Facebook.
- Jeff Vreeland
I see what you mean. Facebook and Google though don't really open source their web apps
- Doug Holton
Facebook doesn't seem to have a good reputation with those kind of thing. Facebook promised to open their chat/IM system via XMPP. More than a year has passed since they announced this XMPP system it still did not happen. We still have to rely on screen-scraping methods to implement Facebook chat on third-party IM systems (like the 3rd party Facebook chat plugin for pidgin called pidgin-facebook).
- Gideon Guillen
I would love to see friendfeed become opensource. Mostly as a developer I would love to see the code. See how friendfeed works.
- mikemcmullan
An "open FriendFeed" could be Facebook's chance to get something lined up to compete with Google Wave. Without it, Google and Twitter are going to own the real-time communication space.
- Derek Gathright
Completly agree!
- Jamie-Lee Mclean-Davis
from Nambu
Absolutely.
- Ian Littman
OS FF would be awesome, but making it a federated service is an entirely different ball of wax. Just ask the Wave guys. They said during the original IO presentation that federation was one of the harder parts (though FF would be easier w/o the real time editing piece, but still).
- Patrick Sullivan
OS FF
- Malcolm Bastien
I think a integrated RSS/FB/FF/GW/Twitter client will be an interesting real time inflection point
- Jim Posner
I totally agree Leo. I can't help but think that this deal is going to be a massive success or a massive flop - nothing in the middle! It's simple things like opening the FF source that can help make it a massive success IMHO.
- Chris Cathcart
I would just like to see the real-time commenting open-sourced.
- patrick
wow Leo you sure know how to get a topic started
- Joe Geeting
I actually was hoping Twitter would be the one to grab it up. Seems like a natural progression for Twitter to make. I just hope Facebook doesn't bury it and they actually use it. As far as open source it? Could be interesting.
- Michael Bower
In a secure and closed environment it could be a powerful communication/collaboration tool for businesses. Features of a chat, but persistent. Ability to share photos & files...
- Ken Bauer
definently
- Ryan Peach
Right-o
- Myrddin Emrys
I would love for this to happen. Federated Friendfeed servers would be quite fun and is the logical step for a great Internet service which aggregates disparate information from all over.
- rob friedman
You know what, Jaiku was open sourced. And nobody uses it anymore. The fact that "it" (FB open sourcing FF) will happen or not is completely irrelevant. Because you will all be hopping on the next early adopter miracle train (read:service) anyway. So stop whining and move on. Federated this, federated that. identi.ca tried that. Again, no users. It's nice to talk the talk. Especially at times like this. You just gotta walk the darn walk afterwards. Which people usually forget to do.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Whoa... you should enhance your calm. Communities are finicky things and sources like Microsoft that are poo-pooing Open Source IMHO is the real problem. Me thinks that a better source of education to dissipate the FUD floating in the global porcelain bowel instead of modern political tactics are are needed to solve real problems.
- Myrddin Emrys
Leo, like this idea.
- Kol Tregaskes
adoption of open standards such as OMB, which is used by laconica, would allow federation among servers
- Mike Chelen
It will one hell of a start, I doubt it though...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
It would be a good thing, but not sure it it will ever happen
- Thomas Lee
I support this as well.
- Carlos Ayala
Now this is something I would fly out to support at the launch...
- Johnny
Another reason why Leo kicks ass
- Mo Kargas
If FriendFeed went open source identi.ca / lamonica would be dealt a serious blow. FriendFeed could become even more powerful if the people could tinker with the code and add many features that remain missing, or strengthen features that currently are weak. It will be interesting to se how FB utilizes their newest acquisition...
- Randy Shapiro
FYI, there's already an open source alternative: http://www.fftogo.com/e...
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
absolutley ;)
- Kenneth Reitz
i would pay
- cheapsuits
ive all ready got a amp for 5 bucks 4 twitter that was suspsose to help twitter run better guess what it dont
- daveccorey
no definitely not. it would shift everything to Chinese government... Damn, millions would have their rest life in prisons.
- xia
Any chance we'll see more code?
- Ken Sheppardson
i'm willing to wait to see what F8 brings... have you seen Jesse Stay's speculative post Ken?
- Chris Heath
with @TheGizWiz and ready to board. If we can fit. - http://brightkite.com/objects...
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Willem (@wim66) ☠, Jim Bednarz, Alfred Chan and 3 other people liked this
Having a little fun with Photoshop: "Billy Scoble here to tell you about Friendfeed!"
Jemm, Tanath, Paul Buchheit and 18 other people liked this
Funny!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
haha
- Özgür D. Cyric
Okay, that's good.
- Akiva
hehe thanks.
- BRҰANSAҰS
Now someone needs to do one for Louis Gray. :)
- BRҰANSAҰS
I guess Louis Gray can be Anthony Sullivan
- BRҰANSAҰS
A for humor... D- for photoshop skills :P
- Joel Lovato
Actually don't have photoshop was using paint .net but ya it looks bad. :)
- BRҰANSAҰS
In that case, A for humor... C+ for Paint skills. :D
- Joel Lovato
Why Cloud Computing is the Future of Mobile - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Kaan Bingol, Craig Sheldon, D Lets and 4 other people liked this
Prying @jacksonfly off of the couch for this week's episode of TWIS. Listen live at kdvs.org/listen - call 530-752-2777 to chat with us!
D Lets liked this
Confirmed for FLOSS Weekly tomorrow: Steve Coast - OpenStreetMaps. This should be good!
Andrew Terry and D Lets liked this
zsafwan to zsafwan's feed, iPhone, iPhone tracking, 3G iPhone, Appetite, appstore, All Things Apple
Square iPhone Payment System turns your phone into credit card reader - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
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"Plugging into the headphone jack of either an iPhone or iPod Touch, the dongle takes a swipe of your card, the seller enters the purchase data and you do your best penless John Hancock on the touchscreen. After that, a receipt is delivered by email and the app retains geotagging data for each transaction. Spiffy, right? Well, there is a surcharge to pay, and it's still in early alpha testing in New York,"
- zsafwan
from Bookmarklet
We launch a new TWiT show @ 3p today: TWig - This Week in google - with Jeff Jarvis and Gina Trapani. Google and cloud computing the topics.
Boiled Frog, Brian Kenyon, Denise Deverelle Crown and 134 other people liked this
looking forward to subscribing to the podcast. will be up in Sierra's without bandwidth to watch live today
- kent williams
Sounds like a really nice addition to the TWiT network. Can't wait!
- Jonathan Grenier
Looking forward to it also
- Claes Krantz
hoping it will be up on itunes today, since i won't be able to watch it live. Can't wait to listen
- John Fogarty
from twhirl
Sounds interesting!
- Dean
I like the idea, but not the name. Seems kind of bias right off the bat. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the innovation that Google brings to the table, but to name the freakin' show after Google?? Can you tell that I am a big fan of Dvorak :)
- rodney.franklin
i look forward to listening to it!
- Aaron
Great! Was waiting for it since the pre-announcement in TWIT.
- Alexey Klyukin
Interested and looking forward to it! May have to listen to podcast though. Will be out on a boat this afternoon.
- Suzi Kilgo
from iPhone
Looking forward to a new show,
- rudedog
Can't wait to listen!
- Tom Webster
Think it was a big mistake to put the name "google" in the title, but will probably be a great show anyways.
- Steven Legault
this is great, so much to talk about, and so much to learn. I think most people have no idea the range of services that are emerging from both Google and Amazon related to cloud services that will be invaluable for the small or start-up business as well as consumers....
- Howie Schechtman
Can't wait! A new and exciting podcast for a new and exciting era of computing!
- Josh Rosen
yeah, a new era of computing, say's it all!
- Howie Schechtman
Great idea Leo. @gregorymurray
- Gregg
looking forward to it already
- Kevin Porteous
Oh no!!! Not more Leo Podcasts!!! :-) Sure I'll be there!
- Richard Bitting
Can't wait, Leo! I'll subscribe immediately. This is an excellent topic and I'm really glad to see the best podcast network on the Internet jumping right in to cover it.
- Eric Geller
I'm really interested to see how this show goes. This is a big topic heading into our future.
- Mike Nayyar
when will it be on itunes? i wonder
- Aaron
Where can I subscribe for iTunes?
- Ben
I'm not fond of the "Google" in the name either, it's like calling a car show "This Week in Gerneral Motors". But I'll try to listen in to the taping anyways, should be funny & knowledgable with the three of you.
- Martin
is that pacific time? look forward to it!
- Susan Ettenheim
And that album art need work, IMO. The "computing in the" is hardly legible.
- Martin
I actually didn't like the artwork so I tried a different one myself. Here it is; http://img149.imageshack.us/img149...
- Can Sağlam
This sounds like a good show, and nice graphics! But how do you have time leo?! Sometimes during somewhat slow news weeks there is some overlap in news like macbreak and twit which can sometimes be annoying but still great shows as I'm sure this one will be as well. WIll jeff and gina always be there or more of a twit interchangeable style?
- Denis Dervisevic
Looking forward to it, I love your other shows and Gina Trapani is great.
- Brandon Eaker
All things Google. Not all things Twitter? LOL Should be interesting. I was listening when you spoke of this show as a, maybe. I'll be there.
- D Lets
Ready to listen to the big three Windows Weekly, MacBreak Weekly and This Week in Google...TWiT is in a class by itself.
- Christopher Knopick
Windows Weekly is the best because Paul does something 90% of the TWiT network hosts don't do: RESEARCH!
- Mark
Looking forward to it Leo!
- Cody Clark
gonna check this one out
- (jeff)isageek
TWiG is better than TWiC (This Week in [the] Cloud) for those saying he shouldn't have put Google in the name.
- Marcus Boyce
Alright. Very cool
- Dylan Richardson
Looking forward to it.
- archaictree
Jeff is a great choice for this. WWGD
- Rob Truman
from fftogo
What's in a name? ;-) I look forward to this new addition to the TWiT network!
- Joe Gilbert
Great.. looking forward to it...
- Shoukat Dharani
this is hilarious with hindsight http://www.appleinsider.com/article...
- Mark
Gina is great, as is Jeff. I really look forward to seeing how this show develops.
- Lori Todd
Google is taking over the world. Chrome OS = Android 2.0 for large laptop screens, Google Voice on Android and White Spaces will kill the $1 Trillion Telecom and ISP industry, you should talk about those ARM processor based netbooks that are coming out with Chrome browser in the next few months, they will take over the whole laptop market and start costing $150 with no contracts.
- Charbax
Great show Leo. Great way to kick off Sunday morning. will try with hangover next week
- guydownunder
from iPhone
TWiG was great! It really makes me want to dive into the cloud. :)
- Curt Tweedle
Loved the show!
- Krista House
Great show! I will be a regular weekly viewer & I want to be a part of the Wave you set up.
- Don Struble
There is one This Week in Google podcast in iTunes, but it's not this one ;)
- Reijo
Mark, they did one episode and it was 2 years ago. I don't think they'll have any issues with the president of the internet using the same title...
- MλTT
I have been looking forward to this show since you first announced it. Thanks!
- Bruce Vittetoe
Great what a good idea since Google seems to run the show/
- Rob Cairns
Is TWig on iTunes yet?
- Devon Govett
Looking for it on iTunes here too, nothing yet.
- Andrew Leahey
Take a while to appear on iTunes. Meanwhile you can add it manually to iTunes with the following URL: http://leo.am/podcasts/twig Thanks for listening!
- Leo Laporte
Can't wait to subscribe!
- Jonathan Hardesty
What was that thing that Jeff Jarvis brought up at about 46:00 and it sounded like; Prezee or Prez-e? I have looked on Google and I found nothing.
- AquaGeneral
I think it was Prezi, http://prezi.com/
- Brandon Eaker
i thinks is very important the post
- amadeu.karen
Fantastic show... great topic. I found it on iTunes.
- Denise Deverelle Crown
@nicolespag Nice video - but can you do me a favor. Please boycott Twitvid.com until they change their name. We need to protect the TWiT tm!
Andy, Dave, americanm and 48 other people liked this
damn straight
- Tony Klein
Seriously ? Boycott Twitvid because their name has twit in it ?
- Jimmy Gardner
from iPhone
Yes. Leo has trademark on the name Twit.
- G Dub of the Carolinas
If he has a TM on twit then has he defended it against twitter ? That has twit in the name.
- Jimmy Gardner
from iPhone
If the company called itself twittervid I bet leo would leave them alone. The TM needs defending because Leo's product includes video. LOTS of video.
- G Dub of the Carolinas
It's the combination of the word TWiT with audio or video content that causes the problem. We're cool with Twitter, twitpic, etc. as long as they're not doing audio or video shows.
- Leo Laporte
Seems very reasonable, Leo. Have you sent them a C&D?
- Eric Florenzano
Yeah. And they refused so we've filed suit. twitvid.io was very cooperative - they've agreed to rebrand - please use them instead. They're really great guys, too.
- Leo Laporte
Ouch, doesn't sound fun but you've got to defend your trademark. Bookmarking twitvid.io.
- Eric Florenzano
I also like tweetreel for the iPhone. Tweet is a much better word than twit for these things, don't you think? ;-)
- Leo Laporte
I love you Matthew. No seriously.
- Leo Laporte
For whom is twitvid more likely to cause consumer confusion? If anyone, it would be Twitter (who have a long tradition of NOT protecting their actually much stronger trademark). It wouldn't be TWiT. Unless Twitvid is producing some general interest technology show. Oh wait, it's not. It looks like a Twitter-specific Vimeo. Even the logo is aimed at Twitter. If I were them I would respond to your C & D the same way I did when I first heard of TWiT. "And who you are you, exactly?"
- mrshl
So you've never heard of Twitter?
- mrshl
mrshl if you follow Leo's Tweets, they've owned the Twit trademark long before Twitter did.
- Jesse Stay
Will do ...
- Jeff
1) I don't follow Leo's Twits. 2) Yes, I am aware that Leo has used the TWiT trademark longer than Twitter. 3) Or rather that Twitter really has never done anything with the trademark. But none of those things is relevant in the legal inquiry. Again, how are consumers going to be confused by the Twitvid site? They're clearly trying to confuse people into thinking they're a great site with which to upload videos to twitter. I.e., there is no confusion.
- mrshl
Yes, trademark holders should actually protect their trademark. But in this case, the party against whom it should have been protected was probably Twitter. As pretty much everyone knows, that horse has left the barn.
- mrshl
I think you know the answer to that question. Could another site or company call itself Twitter? In two years Twitter has become like Coke or Sears or Xerox. Does TWiT get mentioned all the time on CNN? Has your grandma heard of TWiT? Twitter is a trademark. And they've also trademarked "tweets."
- mrshl
Good thing you're not a lawyer, mrshi.
- Leo Laporte
While I am sure it was not intentional that the owners of twitvid.com used the 'Twit' name, out of courtesy they should comply right away with any crease/desist sent to them. If I was the owner of twitvid, I would change the name asap out of pure respect for Leo and the Twit brand he has worked hard to develop.
- Alex Knight
What about TwitVid.io?
- Outsanity
haha. good thing i'm not yours. or twitvid's. good luck with the boycott. i recognize you've got a lot of fans, and a hell of lot of pull. and i'll be the FIRST to say i'm not a trademark expert. but i'm not seeing a good reason for asking your fans to boycott a video site clearly aimed at twitter. and i felt the same way when you announced you were leaving twitter for jaiku, in part over trademark concerns. i agree you have a trademark. i'm just not seeing the violation.
- mrshl
twitvid.io did, in fact, agree to rebrand. They've been great.
- Leo Laporte
I agree with mrshi that there's close to zero real-world chance of confusing twitvid with anything related to Leo. OTOH, if Leo doesn't actively defend the mark, he could be screwed sometime in the future when a truly infringing case arises. The legal system sucks all 'round.
- Roger Benningfield
from BuddyFeed
Leo has every right to request a boycott and I'll support it. Change the name.
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
When I think of 'twit" I think of Twitter first. Should we boycott Twitpic and Twitter too?
- Brett Nordquist
I agree with Leo here. Assuming US trade mark law works similarly to our trade mark law he has a valid complaint. The name has the potential to create confusion in the minds of whoever is familiar with TWiT and that is a lot of people. I also understand that Leo almost has to take steps to defend his trade mark both to retain his ability to enforce it in future and as a deterrent to...
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- Paul Jacobson
anyone want to mention that twitvid's site also looks like garbage? just saying...
- Jeremy Lane
Leo you know I will, and the twit army will, & anyone who knows ya will
- D Lets
I am supporting Leo on this boycott till they change there name..
- Fireman17
The Twit Army is being called into ACTION! Boycott, will do!
- Rob Summit
Sorry but what Christopher said............
- Kevin J Hatton
Twitter doesn't distinguish twit in the logo like these guys do.. And twitter is not doing anything remotely close to what twit does.. TwitVid.com does video. Twit does video.
- Anton
I think Leo managed to work something out with Twitter though. Besides, it isn't just about the similarity of the name. It is the type of business the company is engaged in. TwitVid does video production, like TWiT, and that adds to the confusion.
- Paul Jacobson
Twitvid is such an obvious violation it would almost seem they are doing this out of some kind of spite. I call on all TWIT supporters to not only support Leo but also comment in every blog and web site stating this situation so other copyright pirates would think twice before pulling a stunt like this one. mrshl...if you are surely an attorney ambulance chaser I suggest you go back to night school and refresh your knowledge regarding copyright law.
- earl wallace
What I don't get is, if they hadn't heard of TWiT how can anyone say it is a is an intententional violation and not one a service simply stating that it is part of Twitter eco-system hence the logo hence the twit. I had never heard of TWiT, and I suspect 99% of twitter have never heard of TWiT either.
- Paul Kinlan
Earl, I don't think your personal attacks are very helpful.
- mrshl
Surely it's not really about whether they were intentionally/knowingly doing it? It's just the fact that Leo HAS to go after people potentially infringing on his trademark, whether he likes it or not, because otherwise he will just LOSE it. Regardless of the situation.
- Jalada
Looking at this objectively, this is actually not as binary as people make it out to be. On the surface, without any other knowledge, you see a name like TwitVid and you could come to the conclusion that they are somehow showing/pirating/someway using videos from TWiT. However, if you go to the site TwitVid.com, it is clearly associated with Twitter. From the logo, look and feel, text...
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- Joel Marcey
I'm with you Leo.
- Oracio
squall pushing me due west
Doug Grandt and D Lets liked this
Hope that makes up for some of the last few days.
- D Lets
better then north!
- David Eckard
Macro-Sea Turns Dumpsters Into Swimming Pools - http://lslinks.laughingsquid.com/macro-s...
MoTO Bott, Jérôme, Graham Sergeant and D Lets liked this
That is SO cool
- D Lets
cool, but crazy
- Andy Jenks
Aaarrrggghhh I hate .me URLs. Sorry @ivey http://twitpay.me and now I will slap myself with a wet noodle 50 times.
Milton Ramirez, Sheree Motiska and D Lets liked this
How much do we have to TwitPay you to see this self-flagellation via wet noodle in video form?
- Trent Hamm
Good to know you are also an adherent of Flying Spagheti Monsterism. RA
- JEP
Scoble, you make me smile when I get so annoyed with the state of humanity that I can hardly see straight. There's nothing better than a guy who slaps himself with a wet noodle over a URL. You are a true original and I think I have a geek crush on you Scoble. I said it. I know, I'm about to be read the riot act probably. Oh well, it was worth it. I feel like a rebel.
- Sheree Motiska
Love Your Self. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Michelle Jones, Jack Lhasa, MaryAnn Chick Whiteside and 15 other people liked this
there are times (and there are many) that I need this reminder
- Melissa
1UP Mel.
- Derrick
I need a regular reminder.
- John (bird whisperer)
this is such an excellent specimen of the Melissa-post genre. :)
- edythe
Self love is safe love
- Mattb4rd
Mattb4rd: is that an original? i love it.
- edythe
Thanks, Polly & D. Thanks, everyone. :)
- Melissa
Now, this--*this*--is paint by numbers! #paintbynumbers
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I'm a little biased but still- that is AWESOME.
- Noah Belson
heh. it's silly, really. But as Maidel said, it's very Zen.
- edythe
Friendfeed wish list: option to scroll through all *NEW* items in all saved searches on a single page.
Ross Miller, Kol Tregaskes and D Lets liked this
More for the "wish list" if we have & we do a "like" should we not have an dislike & a "who cars", just a thought.
- D Lets
Thanks for the suggestion, Sean. Would new comments on an old post make the post show up as new?
- Ross Miller
Ross: suggestion: user option to track or not to track new comments on old posts. If tracking, show new comments only, with option to expand the entire comment thread with a click.
- Sean McBride
Ross Miller: by the way, much appreciate the effort you and Friendfeed are making to respond to suggestions and comments here.
- Sean McBride
More thoughts on viewing all new items for saved searches on a single page: various sorting options: sort by newest, oldest, feed name, one's favorite feeds, global popularity, randomly, etc.
- Sean McBride
Some sort of tracking would be most welcome. Something for new entries and something for new comments after a certain point/date/time.
- Kol Tregaskes
Fuck this shit! The health benefits of profanity - http://cleeseblog.com/Vanilla...
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A Sunday Twitter guide: "5 Ways to Get Your Questions Answered on Twitter" - http://mashable.com/2009...
Frode Stenstrøm and D Lets liked this
Missing from the list are @vark and @answers
- Peter Warnock
Now that artists are on twitter I think the whole "scary fan" thing is released on both sides: artist and fans interact savely/real.
D Lets liked this
OK, Firefox is back in the running again in terms of speed. It was a pretty drastic difference between it and Safari 4 before 3.5 arrived
Will Higgins™, Dan Perlman, Doug Jones and 7 other people liked this
Note: I use two extensions: Tree tabs and Delicious
- Bwana ☠
try as well ubiquity.. really helpful and might replace both..
- Jaap Willem
Very true, with 3.5 I feel like I've come home. I had given up on Firefox in favor of Chrome for speed, but now I'm re-exploring the world of add-ons.
- Dan Perlman
I love Chrome for its speed. If you're telling me ff3.5 is faster, then I'll give it a try. I don't really miss my extensions at all.
- Will Higgins™
What’s in Sarah’s purse? (via aaroNiGHTS) - http://leo.tumblr.com/post...
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Rooney, Rick Schmidt, Christopher Aloi and 21 other people liked this
its movie magic without the editing
- Taylor Hutchison
This was so much fun to watch. I loved it! LOL
- Jennifer Ruggiero
Murphy Goode took a good thing and screwed it up: http://friendfeed.com/leolapo...
Roger Kondrat, Robert J Taylor, Hutch Carpenter and 14 other people liked this
wow. talk about bad press. they don't know who they're messing with.
- geoff hines
Geoff: he should have gotten on the final 50 list if he had the most popular video. I'm not saying he should have gotten the final job, either. But yes they did screw up. By not letting the crowd have their day they are no better than Iranian elections. I think the same folks who did the Twitter Suggested User List did the judging here. Lame.
- Robert Scoble
Who is running the PR department over there? Horrible decision by murphy goode winery.
- Abe
Abe: the same guy who does the Iranian Elections and the Twitter Suggested User List decisions. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
For a company hoping to employ social media, it's obvious they don't have a clue.
- Frederick Hoey
I would think that we can talk about it for a few more hours....but then we need to stop uttering the words Murphy Goode. Remember the old adage about bad publicity. So let's not give them any publicity at. all.
- Mike Dowden
Wasn't the whole idea to reach out & market to the twitter community? Obviously Martin was able to garner more eyes than anyone else.
- David Bailey
I'm guessing they already have a person picked out that they want and are using this simply as a marketing ploy. Just say no to Murphy Goode. Plenty of other good wines to drink.
- David Bailey
David: exactly. Kevin Rose just talked about this too: http://friendfeed.com/kevinro...
- Robert Scoble
these plays for jobs are really sad, prey on the desperation of new media kids.
- sean percival
Murphy Goode has no idea how badly they've butchered their company. They got more press since he uploaded his video than they ever got before and now its all for nothing because everyone who discovered them will turn against them. The tech community is very powerful and very loyal.
- Justin Luey
in the process, they harvested about 6,000 of our email addresses.
- Ron Hixson
Suckers! :p
- Mark
Has the winery given a response to this? Are they even aware they screwed the pooch here?
- Michael Turro
Michael: I have no idea, but they should be watching Twitter Search at minimum for their brand name if they want to play in this field.
- Robert Scoble
I missed this whole story. Is the deal a Wine company was offering a special job and Martin applied and lost?
- Mark
This is the Murphy Goode Winery, who was having a contest to find a social media expert to represent the winery. Mark, right. http://twitter.com/areally... is Murphy-Goode's Twitter account.
- Robert Scoble
Martin had the #1 YouTube video and wasn't on the Top 50 list.
- Robert Scoble
My friend made a very cool video.... more clever than some of the other finalists - and he didn't make the cut. http://tr.im/pMcK
- Lisa Osborne
Was the contest a popularity one as in the most votes wins or was it a best person wins deal?
- Mark
Mark: popularity should at least be considered it seems if you're going to ask the public to participate.
- Robert Scoble
Ah, I see.
- Mark
I'm not saying Martin should have won the final job. Maybe he didn't fit. But he should have been on the final 50 list.
- Robert Scoble
Great that all of us in tech have a means of realtime communication to overcome these types of situations.
- courtney benson
Matthew: no, we aren't. Bad press still is bad. It's better than no press sometimes, but not always.
- Robert Scoble
I just thought it was bad they copied this idea. http://www.islandreefjob.com/
- Jim Turner
Without a doubt, he should have been on the final 50 list. The contest doesn't seem to have any rules that would exclude him (just took a quick look). This way, they could have used any criteria for not choosing him as a final 10 contestant and/or the winner. By doing it this way, they may get attention, but as you noted, its not good attention and for owners of the winery, I'm sure this is not something they anticipated when they agreed to this contest.
- Jeff Pomeroy
Interesting logical flaw - they selected the finalists based on their measured ability to generate web2.0 traffic. Logical next step is that this person could do the same for their brand. THEN they completely fail to proceed, with the person left feeling 'screwed over, plus thousands of potential clients that left their emails and also feel 'screwed over'. The logical next step is that...
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- Alistair Nicholson
Right, Alistair-- let's source via social media.. then ignore all of the networks. The responses seem to be mixed in the wine community; the social media community seems to be more insulted! Some reactions: http://bit.ly/s9Wei .
- Julie
TidBITS iPod & iPhone: Why AT&T Has a Lock on the iPhone - http://db.tidbits.com/article...
D Lets, Bryce Campbell and Drew liked this
The foremost bar is that AT&T uses the GSM cellular standard, over which the vast majority of mobile phones operate worldwide. T-Mobile USA uses GSM as well. Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel opted long ago for CDMA, which is used by hundreds of millions of people in the United States and elsewhere, but has no future as a standard, as I'll explain.
- Leo Laporte
MacBook Pro 3.0Gbps SATA upgrade breaking third-party drives? - http://www.slashgear.com/macbook...
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D Lets, Rob Diana, Tracy Benham and 2 other people liked this
The recently-released MacBook Pro firmware that promises to enable 3.0Gbps SATA connectivity has ironically been causing problems in third-party drives. Apple released the upgrade earlier this week, after users of the new 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pro models reported that the notebooks were limited to 1.5Gbps SATA; this did not affect the speed of standard-fit hard-drives, but may have limited future performance should the user upgrade to a faster HDD or SSD. Now, some users with third-party drives already installed are reporting frequent pauses, usage spikes and data errors with the new firmware. Both traditional hard-drives and solid-state storage are presenting problems. One user found his Western Digital Scorpio Blue HDD now suffers intermittent data errors and that the whole machine freezes randomly. Meanwhile another user who has upgraded to an Intel X25-M SSD found his drive no longer works at all following the firmware update. Some have found that re-installing the original SATA...
- Bwana ☠
TEAM UPDATE: Roz to hit 1,000 miles...SOON! - http://rozsavage.blogspot.com/2009...
beautiful afternoon in San Francisco - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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yeap, that's a beatifull day. And I'm in Stockton I'll put up a pic for you.
- D Lets
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