even better. i started typing "got six weeks" into google and suggest came back with "got six weeks try the hundred push ups training program"
- coffee
Greenville's Downtown: Pic on the left is from the early 70s, before the renovation. Pic on the right is what we have now. - http://www.greenvillesc.gov/develop...
"Once the retail center of the area, Greenville's downtown began to languish in the 1960s. As shopping centers lured the major retailers to the suburbs, downtown was left with countless vacant buildings and no people. Greenville faced what other cities faced, a dying downtown in the midst of a growing region. To meet the challenge, Greenville embarked on "downtown redevelopment," remaking Main Street and creating an atmosphere conducive to office, residential, specialty retail, entertainment and the arts. Downtown Greenville’s renaissance became an evolutionary process marked with significant achievements over twenty-five years."
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
from Bookmarklet
Wow, trees make all the difference in the world.
- Kevin Pedraja
Downtown Greenville is spectacular. A great example for other towns to follow.
- Dave Roth
There are hundreds of trees downtown now, Kevin. Plus, they narrowed Main St from 4 lanes to 2, with free slot parking on either side. They've done a great job of continuously improving things too, rather than just dumping money in 30 years ago and letting it sit. If you come to the FF Meetup I'm working on in June, you can come hang out with us downtown!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Looks like you've had some good leaders! My town is just now embarking on similar efforts starting with efforts along our main street downtown (4th Ave). I hope we have as much success in the longer term!
- Bill Rawlinson
Was Main a major commute route? I ask b/c there's a street in Seattle that could use a makeover just like this one, but there is a lot of resistance to doing anything creative because it gets a fair amount of traffic.
- Kevin Pedraja
Holy Smokes! FFing Enigma is from Greenville? Heh heh. (I grew up in Rome, Ga.)
- Nick in Manila
Kevin, Main is the cross street to a rather major commuter route (two separate one way streets, which are the main way into and out of the city). Those are also undergoing long term renovation and look infinitely better at this point. It completely changes the way you see the city coming in. And Nick, yes, I live in Greenville =) Although, if you want to get technical about it, I'm from Pumkintown SC as that's where I spent most of my childhood =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Whoa! I've been to Pickens but never heard of Pumpkintown. That's about the coolest name I've ever heard of.
- Nick in Manila
Wow, what a loverly city you have there. I've heard it's great place to live and now I"m beginning to see why!
- CAJ, somewhere else
LOL! Nick, I went to Pickens High for one year before transferring to the Governor's School. Not many people can say they've been to Pickens. Pumpkintown is about 15 miles away, near Highway 11 and Table Rock mountain. Pumpkintown consists of a store and some blinky lights. That's it. And Alan: if you've never been to the area, you ought to visit. FFers get BBQ or beer when they visit, my treat!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Very pretty, Tina. I've been to the Furman campus, but it's been a number of years. Other than that, my only SC trips are only on the interstate.
- Laura Lou Who
@Laurie, Oh man. Those are serious granny panties!
- ♥patricia♥
I'm thinking Mona likes the kind of underwear that covers her womanly bits with dental floss. [EDIT: Not that there's anything wrong with that. I bet she looks smokin' in em.]
- Laura Norvig
This beats all other iterations of the "slide to unlock" schwag...
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Out, I am not loll! You're freaky deaky dude. And you guys are all missing where the actual slider is positioned. Cha-Chiiiing!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Mona, I know you are hinting at something so but I've been rubbing my screen for the last hour trying to work it out and all Ive done is worn a hole....what am I doing wrong?
- Threepwood
Its all nice but please get it off Celina Jaitley, she is yuck and she talks weirdly. Please photoshop it on someone else. Then I would enjoy it more. =P
- Faraz Mullick
This would sell AWESOME in the Chicks with D*cks/ Wangs demographic (hermaphrodites/pre or /during op Trannies) market, so as to jump the lines at sporting venues etc. & YES they ARE GRANNIES!
- sofarsoShawn
With my luck, they'd be password protected.
- Robert Hafer
Mona, if these are granny undies, what exactly do you wear? lol
- Daynah
Anna, apparently the nail polish is there to give perspective on how giant the panties are. Full story (towards the bottom of this post): http://metalia.blogspot.com/2007...
- Laura Norvig
I've never heard of a conference *about* Twitter.
- Eric Florenzano
Soon there will be twitshare events, like timeshare sales presentations. you get a free hotel room, but you have to follow a spam bot :/
- sean percival
are all the keynotes 140 characters or less?
- Steven Hodson
140 | The Twitter Conference 2009 | Mountain View CA | 26/27 May | Parnassus Group | $249 - "On May 26th and 27th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, we’re bringing together the top gurus in the Twitosphere to discuss all things Twitter, from understanding the business value of Twitter to exploring the what makes a great Twitter app."
- Atul Arora
Atul: that is one. I am speaking at that one. It is run by Steve Broback who used to be my boss back in 1999.
- Robert Scoble
Why conferences? Can't they confer on Twitter?
- Amit Morson
There's a social media conference called Social Matters running in Brisbane, Australia, at the start of October. No details online for it yet though (and it's not in the next 4 months).
- Greg Lexiphanic
Robert - that is the one I may attend since it so close to home :-)
- Atul Arora
is it possible that the conferences could be even remotely differentiated. seems absurd there'd be more than one
- Spotcher
Jeff Pulver's 140 Character Conference: http://www.140conf.com/ June 16-17, NYC. $895. (You can buy a package of the O'Reilly Conference and the Pulver one together).
- Robert Scoble
http://www.thetwitterconference.com May 26th and May 27th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA (very near friendfeed's offices, funny enough). $249. Alex Payne from Twitter is speaking at this one (my favorite so far).
- Robert Scoble
@amit morsin Good point. Would allow others to contribute and tune in when wanted.
- Andrew Kealik
Which ones are you speaking at Robert?
- Paul Holmes
I'm trying to convince Broback to make TC140 a friendfeed, or at least, a real time one.
- Robert Scoble
Paul: as of this moment, I'm only speaking at http://www.thetwitterconference.com (which Steve Broback and team, er, Parnassus Group, runs). I am also talking to Jeff Pulver about speaking at his Twitter Conference.
- Robert Scoble
Is there that much to talk about there is an entire conference, or conferences I should say. Are they how to instructional?
- Jeff
Jeff: surprisingly I think there is, especially if you get geeky and show off how to use the API. Remember, when I first heard about blogging (I used to help plan conferences for programmers in late 1990s) I didn't think it was important enough to have conferences about it, but now there's blogging conferences just for women, so I obviously was wrong. I'd love to go to a session to learn how the Washington State Department of Transportation built its Twitter app so you can see how long border crossings take
- Robert Scoble
Spotcher: it's capitalism. Everyone thinks there's a potential audience (and there is) and goes after it at the same time.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: good point I was not thinking about the tech api/ app stuff I was just thinking about the user uses like this is what a hashtag does. On a side note this is the first time to use friendfeed.
- Jeff
Jeff: welcome. Now import your stuff in here (I'm following you now). Put your Tweets, YouTubes, blogs, flickrs, and tons of other stuff (if you do it) in here so we can stalk you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I will work on it. It seems to be a very useful tool. Thanks for the follow, I look forward t more chats
- Jeff
i guess it's just the tyranny of choice. too many deodorant choices, too many twitter conferences.
- Spotcher
London's *first* Twitter conference ... http://media140.com ... discussing the intersection of microblogging and journalism ... has sold out! Contact @dailytwitter and @iboy for more info.
- George Nimeh
way too many. i think it's ridiculous. i've tweeted them all about it, but they don't care. the issue is: what is twitter culture and can people navigate the alternately small town and world wide nature of it? that's cultural and i don't think any of these conferences can really teach people this in one or two days. it's something you learn by doing, and interaction takes times. like two months.
- mary
and it's not like blogs where there were many platforms, many ways to find posts about you, embedded links that were confusing to the great unwashed. this is twitter: a silo, with 140 char and urls you can click through to. it's not that hard. the big issue is learning the culture.. and that for people who don't naturally get it, will mean doing twitter, not watching a panel talk about it.
- mary
as for the angle they all said they were going after: api's and developers? the twitter api is the easiest on the planet. it took us one hour the first time we used it, to read through the documentation and get the thing started. and two hours to finish. really.. you need a conference to help you with that? i don't imagine any real developer would pay to go to a conference that then told you how to do three hours work, in 8 hours of conference.
- mary
I'd say the angle they're going after is whichever forms the straightest line to your $$$. Reminds me of the rush to train people to use eBay.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ken .. next up .. the Video Professor flogging a "Teach you everything about Twitter or your money back"
- Steven Hodson
@Steven: LOL and +17 for Video Professor mention!
- AJ Kohn
you guys are right.. it's extremely cynical.. doing conferences on twitter. but i guess the organizers feel that have to jump on the next bandwagon.
- mary
Mary: that's why I wish one of the conferences focused on the larger real-time-web trend. That way you could cover Facebook, friendfeed, SkyGrid, and others and how this space is evolving. But they don't listen to me either.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Rackspace should host one :-)
- Jesse Stay
That said, with the current size of Twitter I still don't get why entire conferences are being built around it. It's not big enough yet to have that narrow a focus. I understand Facebook, but not Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: it's because brands are on Twitter in a big way (Zappos makes all new employees post to Twitter). Conferences know that when companies do that they will probably pay to attend conferences about that tool. Translation: hype sells conference seats. That said, there are too many to be profitable.
- Robert Scoble
I just have to interject that our was announced weeks before any of the others, and it's being held first. As far as we knew, we were the only one in the works. The others can't make that claim. As you can guess, I am also confused by why the world needs five of them... http://www.thetwitterconference.com.
- Steve Broback
That being said, we think anything that drives the platform forward is a great thing for the community, so let a thousand flowers bloom!
- Steve Broback
Our event is an (inclusive) gathering of the clan. It's for organizations that want to share how they are tapping into the real-time Web via Twitter. We think the "business of Twitter" is a reasonable focus. I guess a DOS conference in 1982 might have seemed over the top too --"gee, it's so simple!" But a revolution was under way, and the revolutionaries like to get together sometimes...
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- Steve Broback
I think I'm going to start a Twitter conference tour service! Didn't know there was so many. Reminds me of what happened with blog conferences back in the day. A plethora of them! Does give rise to a question though. Why not many Facebook conferences? Or am I merely overlooking those?
- Paul Chaney
Chris is a tech superstar that I listen to deeply. He is excited by Google's moves and lays out the poor execution on the Mozilla side of the fence.
- Robert Scoble
What I missed in the Chrome comic was a mention of browser add-ons like Firefox's. Surfing the web without Adblock Plus is hard to imagine.
- Ole Begemann
or without the delicious add-ons... or the evernote add-on... but at least bookmarklets are (likely?) to still work.
- Justin Long
The comic was aimed squarely at devs. There was little mention of what would make end users choose Chrome over IE.
- Paul Grav
Best read so far, been waiting for a commentary like this...
- Kevin Cearns
Gee, Ole... why wouldn't Google want you running AdBlock Plus? Can't imagine. ;) (Now, I agree, add-ons are cool, but as a publisher, I'm not going to weep over that one...) Anyway, I wouldn't count Firefox out. Obviously, what Google addresses is the performance/reliability side and building around apps. Both FF and Chrome are built around standards, both closely married to JavaScript for what they do next. I think this could be a great rivalry, frankly.
- Peter Kirn
from twhirl
They talk explicitly about plugins on pages 29-32 of the comic so you should be able to have your AdBlock. I seriously doubt Google cares that much about AdBlockers -- which makes up an extremely small percent of the overall market, and which is probably made up of people who don't click ads anyway.
- Chris Messina
Chris: I suspect by plugins they mean Flash etc. and not Firefox-style extensions. But I hope I'm wrong.
- Ole Begemann
Will they, wont they. Time will tell. Who do you want to hate today?
- Steve Blamey
Interesting article. More choice = better for the users. But I think that you are over-hyping the death of Firefox. As far I can tell. Firefox 3.0 is much better than Firefox 2.0 and Firefox 3.1 will be better than Firefox 3.0. Multi-process, V8 and native Gears support are definitely a step forward but firefox is part of an ecosystem so I would not count them out (A lot of people said...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
Hmm, well, I didn't claim to foretell the death of Firefox at all. In fact, Firefox will likely continue to gain marketshare and attention (as the web is still expanding). One of my points is that Mozilla missed the opportunity to be the foundation of Chrome -- and will now have to play catch up -- instead of set the agenda for what's next.
- Chris Messina
Do you think that was a technical decision or a control decision. From the last couple of interviews I have seen of John Lilly, I think that he has a really clear vision around performance, usability and ecosystem. Performance is coming in 3.1. Usability is driven by some of the concept Labs has been pushing out and ecosystem come from the fact that there are 100s of extensions to...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
I am using chrome right now, and I really miss my shareaholic addon as well as my stumbleupon bar. hopefully the developers get crackin for plugins for this browser.
- James Campbell
I'm hoping to see some good progress from Mozilla. I do worry a bit about them fish-tailing and not being able to say no to developers (whose needs are often very different from regular folks). We shall see. @James Campbell:There will be a need for web hooks, no doubt... and places to insert additions or modifications to your browser experience -- I don't really doubt that (some standardization there would be nice too).
- Chris Messina
The bookmarklets work just fine. I really wouldn't miss any of my add-ons...but the fact that I can't scroll up with my mouse is a deal breaker. talking about plugins/add-ons/extensions when people can't even scroll up is kinda putting the cart before the horse...just sayin
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
quote: We know that people like you love our games and sometimes want to use things like gameplay footage, screenshots, music, and other elements of our games (“Game Content”) to make things like machinima, videos, and other cool things (your “Item” or “Items”). We’d like to make that easier for you. So long as you can respect these rules, you can use our Game Content to make your Items.
- Eric Rice
from Bookmarklet
Love it. Similar to that, I always say, "Let's give the community the house, not the hammer." Too many brands are launching with empty tools, not using the tools themselves to give users a reason to engage.
- Craig Ritchie
from twhirl
Thats a great line and it couldn't be more true...it brings countless examples to mind.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
Mind if I quote you on that? I'm speaking at the Florida Association of Museums on social media & most of my audience will not really know what social media is but have awareness they have to adapt to new communication styles to be/stay relevant. It's also a great analogy for cities - branding on distinctive lifestyle not just on creative class amenity buzzwords.
- Julia Gorzka
I intended to agree when I first read this but then I thought about actual branded bars and remembered that they almost always suck. They boil down to a giant ad with no soul. And most of the virtual branded bars (read: brand communities) feel like that.
- Johannes Kleske
Johannes, I think that's actually part of the takeaway (or at least, it should be). The best places to hang out are the ones that feel genuine, not the ones that suffer from so much kitsch or cool that it hurts. The same is true whether it's bars or communities.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeah, in the end for me it comes down to the question if a brand has heart and soul.
- Johannes Kleske
It's to the point of depressing, that there's a big wide world out there and some amazing minds around here, but they can't get off the god damned twitter and friendfeed cheerleader squad for five minutes. And everyone is the media, too, so basically unplugging from one, doesn't really do much.
- Eric Rice
If you want to look into the world of design and tech innovation beyond Twitter take a look at "Design and the Elastic Mind." It's the catalog of a recent show at MoMA. Annoying typographic design that makes reading painful (some designers need to be strapped into a chair and forced to read the crap layouts they foist on us.) But the work presented will shake you loose. Here's the NYTimes review of the exhibit (not the book) http://snurl.com/38l6t
- Michael Markman
good god the review starts: "Bioengineered crossbreeds. Temperamental robots. Spermatozoa imprinted with secret texts." Yeaaaah, I'm sold.
- Eric Rice
You, my friend. Are following the wrong people ;)
- Mona Nomura
I'm with Mona, Eric. Time to dial up some new follows :)
- TDavid
Mona: No, I pay attention to the right people, they just get squelched out by the goofy ass noise. You think I'm a pain in the ass for my health? There's only one good thing about some of these groups of people... they are programmable hives that you can run mental algorithms against. At least that's the way I'm writing it, heh.
- Eric Rice
Really, Mona? There's got to be some other good twitter comedians out there...somewhere...such an untapped venue.
- Pete Delucchi
Unfortunately, aside from the man who throws up things he may need later (LOL!!) I have found anyone who's made me LOL.. I would LOVE to find more!
- Mona Nomura
Tsk tsk, sir! In these worlds talk like this gets you hidden. Forsooth! Also...Eeegad!
- Jim Stanger
Eric: yep, the noise can be deafening at times and make FF seem like huge freakin' echo chamber! expanding your FF circle will open up new stuff to your feed...more fun! get more cake and bacon!!
- Susan Beebe
You do not need to have 25k followers to be happy! A few hundred people who you interact with is just perfect! Just keep looking for followers who interest you!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Jim, you know my position on hiding, blocking, muting. ;)
- Eric Rice
...and we know yours on kfetching. :D
- Mark Forman
Actually it's not so much a follower thing, I've found that while my follower list is very low here, I'm still able to read and discover other things. It's the noise that seeps in. I mean, I don't *read* TechCrunch and I can't escape that thing because *everyone else does*. That's how the game works, that's fine. I'm not bitching from a poor-me perspective, I'm directly bitching AT: and that means saying, look, people YOU CAN DO BETTER FOR YOURSELVES. So yeah, kinda like that.
- Eric Rice
Pomade pretty old skool dude. That used to be currency at the barber shops I frequented ans a Brooklyn kid,where all the barbers were named Louie.
- Mark Forman
That was my favorite tweet yesterday from the Mars Lander.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Agreed, the implications from water on Mars are mind blowing.
- Jeremiah Owyang
water on mars is great, but iet's get to the real issue: is there OIL?
- @baratunde
from twhirl
FOLKS - We *knew* there was water on Mars for quite some time. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastr... It's just that we can "touch", "feel" and "taste" it this time, rather than just "look". The linked-to post has more details.
- Yuvi
@Eric Rice, I hear you!! I stopped reading TechCrunch a few months ago because I knew I'd run in to their content repeatedly as it echoed throughout the rest of the blogs I read... and should probably unsubscribe from at some point soon.
- Christopher Butler
Water on mars? We are just THAT much closer to twittering from Mars.
- Zach Petersen
LOL. your comment is ultimate win. I must say that I posted that article on FF, too, but when you put it that way, the misplacement of emphasis is quite ridiculous.
- Chieze Okoye
prevail-whale: glad you all enjoyed the tribute to 1. Yiying Lu's beautiful original design, 2. Twitter's success today. Thanks to Steve Rubel et al. for the inspiration (success).
- John LeMasney
Not sure if birds are trying to pull FailWhale back into the water...
- Andrew Feinberg
One of the reasons I respect Steve. I get very tired of watching all the critics shout FAIL everytime someone tries to do something new and doesn't get it right the first time. It's much better to encourage those who take the risks that others won't.
- Ray Grieselhuber
I considered opening the eyes, but I thought that would play too much with the original illustration. The tweets are indeed trying to pull down the whale into the water, but the whale is prevailing against the strain. That whale is rising up, like a phoenix, or at least that's what I was trying to convey. ;) Thanks again to Steve for the inspiration.
- John LeMasney
w00t!!! Viva da Success Whale - long may he live!!! I'm a diehard Twitter fan - not going anywhere!! ;)
- Mari Smith
Hey Russel, you too ran out of Likes after edythe? ;)
- Yuvi
No - I prefer comments but sometimes i have nothing to say.
- Russellreno
That'd be awesome if it didn't look like a bloody mess. Gross.
- Louie
I have a pair of shoes (Dustin Dollin VANS) that are viewed two ways: kids see paint drops, adults see blood drops dripping down the side (can't find a pic)
- Eric Rice
enjoyed the career advice to hang on to teaching or marketing skills even if giving in to today's trendy title.
- MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
somebody was trying to get me to apply for a job with the title "webmaster" today! It was with a .wa.gov.au prison department, but we are not really that far behind here. One the other hand web 2.0 social media expert for prisons is not a job I would relish either.
- Nick Cowie
Excellent as always Louis, I really like the "What do you really do?" part. We do have to focus on what social media brings to a real business, not just on how exciting it is to constantly refresh Twitter and FriendFeed.
- Svetlana Gladkova
I love this post -- felt this way for a while and I'm sure others have too. No doubt you'll get some of the "Social Media Experts" giving you flack for it. "Web browsing expert" LOL!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I remember webmasters :) If the newer 'social people' could only bury that hatchet with some of the 'old guard', this whole environment would be a better place.
- Charlie Anzman
It happended the same with Information Technology in the 80/90s. I guess there is a lifecycle typical of new technology roles: at first they are prominents in applying new technolgies to business. After some times the technical knowledge is not so exclusive anymore, and you start to look for more managerial approaches, roles and resumes. Finally the specific tech wisdom become a commodity. That's ok to me, just beware and avoid to be caught in the lifecycle commodity trap
- Marcello Del Bono
agreed, good post - early days of the web - webmaster was a multi-functional jack of all things internet role: root/superuser, sysadmin, netadmin, html dev & graphic oversight all rolled into one - as teams that supported websites matured fragmentation of roles occurred for all the right reasons - webmaster at that point was usually the single point of contact into the property behind the website, especially for reporting web related bugs & for routing of inquiries - normal transitional maturity
- mike "glemak" dunn
"I'm afraid that for the most part, their efforts to rebrand as social media experts will be short-lived and futile. Saying one is an expert in utilizing social media sites is akin to brand one's self as a 'Web browsing expert', an 'e-mail expert', or a 'telephone specialist'." That's pretty funny.
- Hutch Carpenter
I Agree. Webmasters had been more than "multi-functional jack of all things internet". To most people that did not know too much about filesystems, servers and the like, they were short of magicians (cf. Clarke's Third Law). But is the rise of social media that much about technology? I don't think so. It's more about pushing technology in the background. It's about getting rid of the magicians. So, just being able to set up a blog within a few minutes will very soon lose the magical aura.
- Benedikt Koehler
The funny thing is that I - as someone who spends a significant piece of my day managing this stuff for my firm - get forwarded job postings for "Social media manager" or other such titles for $125k +. Clearly people are landing themselves jobs in marketing/PR departments with this title. How long will their jobs last?
- sarahlefton
@sarah Felix America! In Germany I have not yet seen job postings for Social Media Managers. Unfortunately.
- Benedikt Koehler
Someone made a comment about the quality of my shared items from Google and called it 'a blog within itself'. I'd love to do something more with my shared-items-as-publication, but oh the can of worms. What IF someone's collected media becomes strong by itself?
I've been thinking a lot of that. I started using the Shared Items a lot more when I saw that it was being archived http://www.google.com/reader... The URL sucks srsly tho. It'd be great if you could map it to a subdomain or something.
- Clay Newton
I kinda like the one click that I do in Google reader.. I've thought of reblogging but that made me feel like a lazy ass thinking it's too much work. Heh. Anarchaia's is nice tho
- Eric Rice
wow, that's cool Eric! I would imagine that you'd produce a nice collection of goodies. Perhaps those could be aggregated into a feed "service" and displayed somewhere for conversation/community.
- Susan Beebe
Better to point people to the original than republish. Sharing here or in G Reader works well for that, so why do something more?
- Annie Boccio
Annie: because it could be a magazine unto itself. It's something coherent, it's my brain as editorial director. I don't HAVE to 'share/publish' the stuff, but I do so because it's important, and also a bookmarker for me. There are those that don't want to run all over hell and back chasing the originals. That's the value in having an editor, or um, 'filter' is the PC term now.
- Eric Rice
I like using the Friendfeed bookmarklet when I feel the urge to share a little bit more than just the title of the post. It really only takes a couple seconds longer than the single click in greader. (I still do the greader share for some less interesting things though)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, yeah I feel more immediacy when I click the "Share on FF" thing than if I share in Reader. I have bookmarklets for both, but apparently, I'm making an editorial decision. Why did I share on FF the article about Apple DRM, instead of Noting it in Google Reader? My gut just sorta told me to.
- Eric Rice
I find myself gravitating towards FF over GR sharing. It's just happening.
- Sean McBride
@melmcbride: Love the term "Feed DJ's." Eric: The person bringing/sharing/aggregating an amazing assortment of news usually has more "top of mind" with me than the actual news source.
- Jason Evangelho
@melmcbride, I want to be an Information Disc Jockey. Where are my Information Discs? xD No, seriously, I like Feed DJ, I can relate.
- Jason Wehmhoener
lol Feed DJ is an awesome term. @Eric Rice: why is it an "or" choice? your greader notes get imported here no?
- Mario Romero
Eric, how would that work exactly? You can't just republish other people's work on another site without permission.
- Annie Boccio
@mario I dunno, that's what I'm questioning.. why do I choose some items over others to share here (NOW) vs. greader (later, lag, etc).. @Annie, well, but it IS published without permission. Look at this link: http://www.google.com/reader... and god bless all the DEMAND FOR FULL RSS, because you don't have to leave and read elsewhere. But see, I'm not DOING it, it's just the structure. Organizing it coherently and selling ads against, sure, that's a bit diff.
- Eric Rice
Annie Boccio: You can if they offer a feed for syndication, that's what they're for and that's what google reader and the rest do. The permission is implicit in the open feed.
- Mario Romero
This is also related to the big Seesmic discussion. Seesmic isn't private, it's private to use. It has functionality for non-public communication. Any video can live anywhere, be linked to, and access to that never comes close to the TOS. If it is so important Seesmic vids never leave Seesmic, then there needs to be a feature to make videos un-embeddable, like Youtube. Of course, that's a technical solution to a social issue but at least intent is there. Until then, the TOS is completely moot outside.
- Eric Rice
Eric, I've been developing a project for a bit now to create a virtual blog within Google Reader. I need to sit down and map out all the ramifications but it will be interesting if I can pull it off.
- Phil G
J.Phil: Maybe an RSS importer with some layout properties, like Greasemonkey or something.
- Eric Rice
Well, that's the thing, I could see it more as "the oracle speaks" sort of deal. Perhaps a web site with a google talk URL to add the blog to your friends list in greader, or maybe not even that --- 'seed' it with a bunch of people you trust, maybe work out some sort of arrangment where multiple people can blog, make it viral. The only way it shows up is through shared items.
- Phil G
if you like, I am happy to chat with you about it, pglockner on google talk
- Phil G
Ah,my head! I see what you're saying, but I still don't see much of a benefit over sharing in FF or gReader. I guess there are some who would go to yet another site just to see what Eric is reading these days... :)
- Annie Boccio
Actually I find myself using GReader and going to interesting posts at their native location and then sharing to FF. Just need to watch the time thingie...
- Mark Forman
Annie - well, it's still conceptual, so to speak, but yeah.. I hear ya. I think the viral element would be the kicker. I'm not a marketer but I could find a good hook, either a dynamite blogger or contest or target it at the perfect demigraphic, I think it could be a lot of fun.
- Phil G
I *love* your shared items. I think it's a blog. I think that if it were its own standalone destination for conversations (maybe just do the friendfeed integration), I'd be on it all the time. Better than BoingBoing, and no, not as a 1:1 example of the content. I've been digging it for months and months.
- Chris Brogan
After I slept on it, I think I use the Friendfeed Share if I think it will have more activity 'now' and maybe has a little urgency. Since my Google Shares still come up here, that's more of a River of Me (lol runs through it), and that might no warrant discussion. It shows up later (and around elsewhere like Facebook). I need a bot to keep track on what things I share here :)
- Eric Rice
I'm actually working on that right this moment! In late stage Series A drive for a startup. We're planning on bringing on our first community manager in the fourth month post-funding. One of the earlier marketing positions we're filling.
- Chris Kenton
from twhirl
Somebody has to do it ... whether it starts off as someone with another job or a full-time gig ... somebody needs to be assigned the role if the site is social
- Nick O'Neill
I imagine Twitter could offload some its load to summize's cache. Plus, Summize (though a different problem space) has shown good ability to scale, so I bet some clever engineers come with the deal.
- Nate Koechley
This could be interesting. I am happy for the folks at Summize.
- Clay Newton
I think the wisdom of this move is in stopping the bleeding... Perhaps Summize was in a similar situation to Twitterboard, and rather than let them die and continue the degradation of their valuable Twitter ecosystem, they decided to buy them and keep them going.
- Jason Carreira
from twhirl
@ChangeForge, I agree. This is great news for summize, but I don't understand how this helps Twitter's up/down time
- gregory
Not a surprise. Guess Summize will now be down all the time too!
- ChaCha Fance
Twitter gains a great search tool which can sift through past entries while twitter is down...maintain user attention longer.
- Andy Angelos
I have to ask the same thing as ChangeForge - I don't get how Twitter can possibly be in the business of snagging other startups, when it barely does what it's supposed to do itself.
- Bradley McSpinn