Let's keep the conversation going here - if the conversation is good enough I may do a blog post. I think there is some great use for technology like the iPhone at church. - Jesse Stay
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I work with the youth, and so I don't believe in setting a double standard. If they can't use them to be checking sports scores, texting friends, etc. than I'm not going to either. I have five rules:
1.) It's OK in emergencies
2.) If it is being used to enhance the experience we're all sharing, it's ok. (calling people to get them to activities, finding out if someone is up for a visit, etc). It's not ok to isolate yourself from people present to have conversations with people who aren't present. The people you are with right now are the most important people to you right now.
3.) Following up on assignments is OK. I participate in a lot of meetings, and I do text people to remind them of, and follow up on completion of assignments.
4.) It's _not_ ok in very sacred settings. It takes your mind off the spiritual experience and leaves you spiritually distracted.
5.) If you use your PDA/iPhone to store scriptures/notes/etc. It is ok to use it for that purpose only in appropriate settings.
My $0.02. - jtzemp
Calender items, notes and on occasion accessing the scriptures via the Internet..... but NEVER texting. - LdsNana-AskMormon
i think appropriate use of technology can be beneficial... i'm far more likely to remain engaged when i'm looking up supplementary material or cross-referencing scripture. with a phone/pocket pc/iPhone i can look up that quote that i can almost remember, i can jot down notes so i'll remember later. and i'm far less likely to carry a pad of paper to church with me. - Justin Hileman
Some day (if someone doesn't beat me to it), I'd like to create a social scripture study app for all faiths - you can comment real time on your reading, and share findings with others. - Jesse Stay
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I used to bring the Treo, to have the standard works, hymns, lessons on. Now, I leave all the gadgets at home. You know I'd be Friendfeeding during communion and on Fast Sunday. - Louis Gray
Occasionally, if I have the kids on my own in the parents room I will check email, and do some RSS reading while I am watching the kids. I can't hear the sermon in the parents room unfortunately so I play with the kids and check things on my cell. - LGR
Never. In the past I have used it to save notes or ideas that may pop into my head, but lately I turn the thing off on the way in and back on on the way out. - James Hull
I like jtzemp's comments. I carry 3 phone/PDA-type devices with me (yes, I know it sounds silly, but there's a reason for each device). I use my personal PDA (not a phone) for notes, scriptures, lesson manuals, hymns, and my calendar. I use my Treo (my work PDA-phone which is Internet-enabled but not calling-enabled) to look up talks on lds.org during meetings when appropriate e.g. if a particular talk is the main focus of a lesson, and also for typing notes during General/Stake Conference... - the JoshMeister
...And finally, I use my personal cell phone only before/after church, or to add a church member's phone number. - the JoshMeister
This will probably blur the definition of "in church," but I'm on the AV team, so we send texts from the sound board to the video room all the time. We just turn our ringers off. At the same time, we occasionally remind people that they could be on camera at any time, so they shouldn't text or talk on cellphones during service. Last week, the Assistant Pastor's phone rang during communion service. It was hilarious. - ha3rvey
Harvey, I hear those AV teams can get pretty religious anyway ;-) - Jesse Stay
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Louis, you mean FriendFeed isn't religious??? - Jesse Stay
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Jesse, I think a social scripture study app sounds very interesting. Be sure to let us know if you get around to making one. =) By the way, I re-tweeted/plurked/etc. this conversation. - the JoshMeister
Thanks Josh - btw, you need an iPhone ;) - Jesse Stay
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I don't see what people have against txt. I often txt bible quotes and prayer requests to my friends. We also use it for group announcements in the groups within the church as well as invites to weekend events - Andy Wilkin
Personally I make sure to turn my mobile phone off during services. I prefer to focus on the worship and the message. I sit quite close to the front of our church and am always fascinated to see some members of the pastoral team busily taking notes on their blackberries/iPhones etc - I have often wondered just what it is they're writing - whether it's notes on the message they're hearing or whether they're checking their gmail I just don't know! - Matt Hooper
I'll typically process email (mostly deleting and saving replies for later), text a few people, and check twitter once or twice. I try not to check email too much during Sunday School, 'cus I'm the teacher. :-) - Walter Reade
Yes Yes YES! Any more questions? LOL - Nancy Nally
Yep Yep Yep. I'd love to hang around :) - Shankar Ganesh
I think it's a mistake to not start one Darren. Think of all the content ideas you could get from it. Ala searchenginerountable....via feedalizr - Jim Kukral
No, my attention is too divided as it is with social media and writing - Leslie Poston
I think it is a great idea, but you need a team of moderators who are truly democratic and open to controversial issue! If you start banning users because you do not agree with what they saying, it will be a negative backlash for Problogger! While I have all the confidence in Darren, but I cannot see Darren always moderating the forum. So unless Darren has a group of individuals who he can trust and delegate this authority, while at the same time supervising them, it is better not to do it! - Igor The Troll
So Darren please ask yourself this question, "Do I have the proper resources to run a forum?" And resources means technology, people, and your own time and energy! - Igor The Troll
FOLLOW UP QUESTION - what areas/topics would you like such a forum to cover (if you answer yes that is) - Darren Rowse
While I think a forum would work well on your site, because you have such a large and strong community already, Igor has a good point. The resources to run a forum are very different from running a blog. As for topics to cover. Look at http://forum.authorityblogger.... they have a good start for a blogging forum and topics. - LGR
Regarding the follow up question... I think it should cover all the obvious topics, like social media, SEO, affiliate programs, AdSense, etc. Another interesting forum would be an "ethics" forum or something along those lines, for people to discuss their views on the ethics of various promotion/monetisation strategies. - Eric Daams
I would love one, Darren. I think it could be a great place for bloggers to connect, find like-minded people, and have a place they feel they can have a voice with other bloggers. - Mark Frost
I think the topics should be Social Networking, SEO, Advertising, Writing Advice, Viral Marketing, and maybe some off-topic sections. Just promise to use vBulletin, Darren. - Mark Frost
No thank you! Did my Wiki days on Wikipedia! It is very hard to maintain an industry wiki unless you have professional editors. - Igor The Troll
I would probably decline if Darren asked me to be a moderator on the forum! It is a lot of work and you have to be impartial, fair, and respect all members beginners and advance! - Igor The Troll
I would love to see a forum on ProBlogger, but like many people who have already commented, I am concerned about whether ProBlogger has the resources to run one. - Riayn
I would sure visit it a few times a week. - Michael
I'd like to make one more point because I know Problogger is already a massive sort of community even without a forum, but there is no real way for a blogger to get sort of instant feedback from other bloggers about their progress. Take for instance if I wanted help developing my writing skills to connect more with readers or needed tips on how to be more creative, I could probably get feedback within minutes. - Mark Frost
I'm confident Darren can pull together a team to help. I moderate a large forum and would be willing to help or moderate a new ProBlogger forum as well. I'm a web designer, so could help on installing a forum too, if help was needed with that. - Traci Knoppe
No thanks. There are plenty of forums for bloggers already. Too much UGC at problogger might allow Darren to retire completely and kill off the main blog itself. - Andy Roberts
Yes for a forum. Get a few forum users to moderate it. - Guinevere Orvis
If you make a forum, make sure you integrate the blog. Make it so that each of your blog posts spawns a thread in the forum where people can respond. Have the comments from your blog and the comments from the forum thread cross-pollinate, so that the discussion is complete. If you do this, there will be less of a wall between your blog and the forums. - Ed Healy
@Ed I'm not sure that's a good idea and that has been one of the things keeping Darren from making a ProBlogger forum in the past. I think if he makes a forum, the discussions should be separate from that of the blog and its posts as to not have the two interfere with each other. - Mark Frost
Is there a reason why tying them together would be bad? If the concern is whether forum posts will pollute the quality of the blog comments, one solution is to have the cross-pollination only go one way. IOW, have the blog populate forum threads (post only, no comments), so that people can discuss the blog in the forums, but stop the tie-in there. - Ed Healy
Yes, but only if you'd participate too. :) - Sarah Parker
I'm not a very big fan of forums. At least, not anymore. I think that the way things go on ProBlogger's FriendFeed Room and comments on the blog it's about right for my needs of communication. It seams I appreciate a lot more the simplicity of FF conversations. - Alex Cristache
The two comments I posted this morning (WordPress questions) are exactly the sort of thing that I would love a forum for! - Nancy Nally
Find like-minded people to interact with in one place. - Janette Toral
thanks everyone for your opinions - lots to think about here. I agree though - I'd only do this if I can find enough moderators to help cover the load. This is what I did at my photography blog and it worked quite well. - Darren Rowse