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Publishers don’t understand e-books December 11th, 2009 8 Comments
- Bobbi Newman
Apps for Book Lovers With Smartphones - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Apps That Turn Pages, and Save Money
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15 Hacks Every Dropbox User Should Know | Maximum PC - http://www.maximumpc.com/article...
15 Hacks Every Dropbox User Should Know
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Nice!
- Kirsten
LOVE!
- Mary Carmen
thanks guys! I do like these but not as much as my black cherry mary janes, those I have a deep and committed love for http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Bobbi Newman
oh those are lovely! what brand?
- Mary Carmen
Ow, wow. The MJs are gorgeous!
- Laura B.
Mary - they are Sofft, my first pair but it wont be my last, they are SO comfortable! I bet I wear them once a week
- Bobbi Newman
these are sofft or the black cherry ones are? and what brand is the one that isn't sofft as they're both great!
- Katie
my feets are way too wide for Sofft shoes. grrrrrrr!
- Mary Carmen
the black cherry mary janes are soft, the ones in the initial pictures are clarks
- Bobbi Newman
Clarks and Sofft - two of my favorite brands! :)
- holly
mary - how about clarks? I have 5 pairs of those and love every one of them!
- Bobbi Newman
i've got a couple of pairs of clarks which are very nice, but took a while to break in. also, them coming in 12w is a bit rare :) and i once almost owned a mary jane style sofft shoe. the shoe itself fit, but the strap wouldn't go over my high arch :((
- Katie
Tweetups – Not As Pointless As You Might Think - http://noteasytoforget.com/2009...
Tweetups – Not As Pointless As You Might Think
- Bobbi Newman
BBC News - Children who use technology are 'better writers' - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
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Children who use technology are 'better writers'
- Bobbi Newman
Interesting headline, since what the story seems to say is that children who text or blog *regard themselves as* better writers. Which may be true, but isn't inherently true.
- Walt Crawford
and what qualifies as better? spelling, punctuation, ideas, the format?
- Bobbi Newman
Bobbi: Or just feeling better about your writing--in which case, the story's trivial: "Children who write voluntarily feel better about writing than those who don't."
- Walt Crawford
Monkey lamp - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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This was at a very cool bar in the French Quarter.
- Jàson Puçkett
if they had monkeys they were definitely a cool bar :-)
- Bobbi Newman
Do you think it's normal/OK to list your degrees on a resume but not put the year you received them? I'm seeing quite a few resumes without dates. Are they afraid of ageism or is it something else?
Probably. I think dates are a Good Thing.
- barbara fister
Could very well be--may be a gap between degree date and professional work. I still have dates on mine.
- Abigail
I think where there are gaps it's good to explain in a cover letter - chances are you were doing something interesting, just not in libraries. And besides, stuff happens. And we all have lives.
- barbara fister
I wonder if they were people let go by the recession and they just fear someone figuring out how long ago they got their degrees. Perhaps don't want to be perceived as being out of date. I know that most folks wouldn't perceive it that way, but there are some
- Sir Shuping
Leaving dates off is common advice to over-50s (I've even seen it for over-40s). I don't think they're trying to pull a fast one -- seeing that wouldn't eliminate a resume I was looking at. But I keep dates on mine. *shrug*
- D0r0th34
I still have dates, but yes, it's common if people are worried about being seen as "too old" for specific jobs - I figure if they can indicate they meet the required quals, then have the dates, leave the dates, whichever.
- ÉllbeeÇee
I know people who did that because it took them longer than usual to complete (eg 6-7 years for a 4 year degree). In my neck of the woods it's common to put both start and end date for your degree.
- Fiona Bradley
I would think that the candidate was trying to hide *something* if the grad dates weren't on the resume. things happen, and can be explained. it's the hiding I don't like, so I put dates on. But I'm not over 50 & looking for a job; if I were in that situation, I might think differently.
- Stephanie_Thankful
Ooh, I never heard of putting a start date. That wouldn't look good on mine as it took me awhile to get my BA. A glance at the candidates' work histories give me SOME idea of what decade they were likely born in ... I just find it slightly annoying not to be able to glance and see when they got their MLS.
- Laura Norvig
frankly, when they got their MLS *is* relevant. undergrad, maybe or maybe not, but MLS - yes. due to technology & stuffs. would give you an idea of what they learned / were exposed to in library school.
- Stephanie_Thankful
When they got their MLIS has little to do with what they were exposed to in library school. Where they went to school, and work they chose to do is far more valuable in that regard.
- DJF
I agree. that's just perpetuating the stereotype that only new grads are accepting of tech etc and that the old guard doesn't "get it".
- holly
Agreed, Holly - there are librarians who graduated 20 years ago who are very willing to learn and use new tech and excited by it - and I know new librarians who don't even want to consider it.
- ÉllbeeÇee
Back when I was in library school, a mere 10 years ago, the normal way to find contact information was still the telephone book. Around here, government information was in the "blue pages" of the book. One of my classmates was unable to figure out how to navigate the phonebook to find the government information, even when several of us in the grad lounge were telling him, "It's in the blue pages." If you based your judgement on year of graduation, he and I would be peers?
- DJF
Right, there are multiple factors in play and I can tell much more about whether a person is comfortable with technology by the types of work they do or have done. Still, if someone got their MLS 20 or 30 years ago and has NOT demonstrated some effort to keep up with technology that would be an issue for me.
- Laura Norvig
Sorry to chime in so late on this, but my dad, who is a retired hospital administrator, found when he was in his mid-50s or so that he wasn't getting call backs when he sent in his resume. For the next few applications, he removed the dates from his resume. And all of a sudden the calls came.
- Joan
Joan: Yep. But of course there's no age discrimination, nope, not a hint of it. And with the Supremes, that's even more true--they've basically gutted any ability to claim age discrimination. (Easy when you have a guaranteed job for life.)
- Walt Crawford
I keep dates on mine, but it doesnt matter much to me since I'm relatively young (30) and get degrees as a hobby. Since most places (all colleges/universities I've ever applied to, and most state jobs, at least) have a supplemental app that requires you state the dates of attendance, you can match them up if you need to or care to. But yes, I would argue that a degree in LIS from 30...
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- Archangel ωαřмaiden
I don't include my dates, and I'm (relatively) young. Frankly based on what I hear about some programs & the students even someone who graduated last year might be a technophobe. Don't see why they are needed, best to leave them off if they are not value added. I have my degree, my work speaks for itself, you should be able to tell by cover letter & res content if I'm what you're looking for.
- Bobbi Newman
I haven't applied for a job recently - been with my current place of work for about 3.5 years - but I did put my graduation dates on my resume. I imagine I might not, though, as I get older and gain more experience. I think my experience is more important than my degree...
- Laura H.
Actually, the graduation date can be extremely important if your program was ever not ALA-accredited, and you are applying for a job where that is a requirement.
- Joan
What Joan just said, plus, some institutions require verification of information, and just like a citation, the more information you include, the easier it is for the resume reviewer to verify your data. And, honestly, as someone who is rigorous in attempting to ensure as little bias as possible in resume review, it just looks sketchy to me when people leave information off. It's my...
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- Jenica
In my experience, it's accepted practice. it's not taboo to leave the dates off, but it raises some eyebrows. And a lot of unis require your transcripts to prove you have the required degree (especially after that fiasco - where was it, MIT?). There's no need to be sneaky. I want to know if you have the degree, and i want to know what you did since getting it. Especially after reading...
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- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Also, ive been on a committee where we got more than one resume/cv that listed the positions the person had held, and the *positions* had no dates. Please to not do this, everyone.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Just as an aside to everyone wondering... Provide all the facts in a job application (or you're lying by omission) and explain the egregious oddities/anomalies/highlights (this is called "spinning") -- Google is my friend in reviewing applicants & I've kaiboshed applicants who omitted what I considered factual data (such as dates) in every search I've been on.
- awd
Yes, they are afraid of ageism. Which is rampant. Try being unemployed in your forties. I know many highly techie librarians in their 60's. I put my dates on after being told that it might get my resume rejected - but employment counsellors will tell you not to put them on and to send a "skills based resume". I disagree that resume gaps should be filled in by the cover letter - does the employer really want to know that you stayed home with your kids for 4 years?
- vickie mackenzie
I suppose it's a tough call, and the applicants can't know that our review committee is a wide range of ages (I'm 48) . When I'm trying to review 62 resumes in a short period of time, more data is helpful, and less data just confounds the process, IME.
- Laura Norvig
I find skills based resumes extremely confusing and hard to read. Let's just be standard, ok?
- Fiona Bradley
What Jenica said. And you don't have to work extra hard to squish it on one page but please, please, don't use a huge font or be so verbose that it's five pages. kthxbai.
- Laura Norvig
Is Google Making Us Stupid? - The Atlantic (July/August 2008) - http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
Is Google Making Us Stupid?
- Bobbi Newman
The Benefits of Distraction and Overstimulation -- New York Magazine - http://nymag.com/news...
In Defense of Distraction
- Bobbi Newman
2009 Essay Contest Winners - Theme - Libraries: For Readers Only
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Dinner at Casa Bs - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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tater tots? YUM!
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
not just tater tots, fancy tater tots with cheese & ketchup & mustard, I went all out tonight!
- Bobbi Newman
John Dupuis, T. Brent, technopeasant, Anna Lynn M. and 20 other people liked this
I have copies of both Librarian Bomb (Fall 2009) and Codslap! (Summer 2009). Zines are $2.00 and postage is $2.00 in US and Canada for up to, let's say, five zines. So one zine is $4.00, two in the same shipment is $6.00 and so on. Send money by PayPal to bevedog@gmail.com and be sure to specify what you want and where it should be sent. If you send me $4.00 and don't specify, I'll assume you want Librarian Bomb. I will also accept cash (preferred) or check (if you must) to Steve Lawson / LSW Clubhouse / PO Box 7893 / Colorado Springs CO 80907. Please DO NOT put "Librarian Bomb" on the envelope, as the USPS isn't known for their sense of humor about such things. For more than five zines or if you live outside North America, email me and we'll figure it out.
- s t e v e
Holly has some copies, too (I haven't talked to the other IL mules) so we'll see if we can distribute some of the orders somehow?
- s t e v e
woo, sent!
- D0r0th34
As soon as I get home (where my PayPal access info is), I'll send mine in. Woo!
- Catherine Pellegrino
Hm, so far I got one order with address attached and one without. No big deal, I'll find you if I don't have your address otherwise, but everyone might want to put the address in the comment field. Thanks.
- s t e v e
Will send order tonight. Thanks!
- Betsy (bentley) Vera
I think you know where I live, but I'll PM you if you forgot.
- D0r0th34
Are you sending a free copy to contributors like you did with Codslap? If not, that's cool, I'll be more than happy to contribute $4 to the Steve Lawson Fund.
- josh neff, geek at large
Steve, I have only one copy left and I'm sure someone in Boulder will want it.
- Matt Hamilton
I have the same question as Neff. :)
- Rachel Walden
Where can I find out more information about Librarian Bomb? I think I'd like a copy, but I'd like to find out more first.
- Derrick
There is a misconception there, as Codslap! had an author-pays model. :) Seriously, here's the deal: I printed 50 at ~ $1.40 ea., so that's $70. I'll make a bit of a profit on the $4.00 with shipping for single issues. I think Holly and Matt (and Louise?) gave copies away, so I hope someone slipped them some cash or that they stole copies from work or something. This time I didn't ask...
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- s t e v e
Works for me, thanks!
- Rachel Walden
Derrick (& anyone else who wonders): Librarian Bomb is a zine by library folks, mostly aimed at library folks. This issue has a lot of library satire and humor, photos by Cecily, found poetry, library and Library Society of the World tales, and a coloring contest. Some of the humor might not make much sense to non-librarians. Next issue will have a theme: Lost and Found in Libraries, and I think we may get away from the parody/satire to some degree.
- s t e v e
Well, I feel like a honorary librarian by proxy. The stars know I spent enough time in the library as a literature and writing undergrad. Thanks for the clarification, Steve.
- Derrick
Just sent for mine - thanks!
- Mary Beth Sancomb Moran
@Steve, did you get my order a couple of weeks ago (with my New Zealand address included)? If not I can resend.
- Deborah Fitchett
Can I make copies of mine & hand them out here? Or do they need to order from you? Is the PDF online for print out?
- Bobbi Newman
Librarians are so cool. *le sigh*
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Got my zines today - can't wait to read them!
- Jen
Late as usual, but I just paypal'd you, Steve. It's supposed to include shipping instructions (2038 Westbrook Ln, Livermore, CA 94550.
- Walt Crawford
Oh, you aren't that late Walt. I haven't blogged it yet. Jenna Freedman doesn't even have a copy yet. But yes, I got your paypal.
- s t e v e
sent!
- marthalib
Still looking for the durn download link! how much you want for that? I'll print it on my own cardstock if you insist! :)
- awd
Why? Getting it in the mail is so much more fun!
- lris' ghost
but but but it's cheaper on the planet in the internet... [citation needed]
- awd
$4!!! I'll lend it to you.
- lris' ghost
do you accept interac e-mail payments?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Heads off to send Steve monies.
- Abigail
Sent! (finally)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Bump: if you want me to mail you one today, hit me in the next 30 min or so. Otherwise, it'll go out next week.
- s t e v e
Dude! Same place as the hotel check from that time... sry still no paypal :)
- awd
a) SIGN UP FOR PAYPAL. b) I just bought a zine for you.
- lris' ghost
Heh. So she did. It'll go out next week.
- s t e v e
Iris r0x0rs - would still be happy for a d/l link (yes, I'm just being a pest at this point :) [and paypal lost my bidnes way back in their early days, when they cleaned out my (admittedly small) bank account with no record of doing so and didn't make good]
- awd
Tweeting for 2 years, 7 months, 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 18 minutes, 35 seconds (April 8, 2007). How about you? http://howlonghaveyoubeentweeting.com/
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never have
- Katy S
2 years, 6 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 14 minutes April 20, 2007
- Rev. Dr. W!cKeD Rock
Tweeting for 2 years, 8 months, 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 15 minutes, 24 seconds (March 9, 2007)
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
If only I'd known this stuff would get me social capital, I wouldn't have deleted my account the first time 'round.
- s t e v e
2 years, 8 months, 6 days, 22 hours, 49 minutes, 10 seconds – March 11, 2007
- Victor Ganata
1 year, 7 months, 2 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes
- Rochelle
2 years, 7 months, 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 8 minutes, 53 seconds ALTHOUGH I'M SURE IT'S 55 BY NOW.
- laura x
2 years, 8 months, 1 week, 35 minutes, 32 seconds March 11, 2007
- Michael Porter
aww, Michael, we started the same day :) 2 years, 8 months, 1 week, 48 minutes, 49 seconds March 11, 2007
- holly
2 years, 3 weeks, 1 hour, 23 minutes and 10 seconds.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
Heh, was there something about March 11, 2007 that convinced people to start using Twitter?
- Victor Ganata
it was a very good day! (I can't remember why I did. probably saw a blog post or something from another librarian.)
- holly
does not tweet
- VAL D. Zone
2 years, 7 months, 4 weeks, 16 hours, 44 minutes, 8 seconds March 20, 2007
- Bobbi Newman
2 years, 11 months, 4 days, 9 hours, 58 minutes, 23 seconds Is there some kind of tweetiversary we get to have when we hit 3 years?
- Kathryn says love n peace
2 years, 8 months, 1 week, 11 hours, 57 minutes, 52 seconds
- lris' ghost
Wish I could find the blog post or whatever, that prompted so many of us to lemming our way to Twitter 2 years and 8+ months ago. Is there any sort of app that allows you to find your first Tweet?
- Rochelle Rochelle
I first blogged about it 2 years, 8 months, and 8 days ago. I heard about it from Carol Ou. I don't think I'm library patient zero, though.
- s t e v e
Rochelle - MyFirstTweet is supposed to do that, but it seems that their app seems to only work a small percentage of the time.
- Curtiss Grymala
2 years, 8 months, 11 hours, 32 minutes, 55 seconds - March 14, 2007. Looks like March 2007 was a big month for library twittering.
- Jason Griffey
10 months, 3 weeks, 4 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes, 52 seconds
- John Dupuis
11 months, 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 20 seconds November 30, 2008
- Jennifer McDaniel
I posted on my blog on April 18 2007 "I fiddled with twitter a while back, but like Fiona, I didn’t find it very useful. About a month ago, as twitter began tipping toward mainstream, a mob of bibliobloggers started experimenting with it. I tried again." http://librariansmatter.com/blog... . I'm pretty sure it was Steven Cohen getting really hot under the collar about Twitter and encouraging everyone to join that made it happen. That and the mainstream tipping pt March 07
- Kathryn says love n peace
Unless I'm mistaken, I started in early June 2007, specifically for ALA Annual...and stopped at the end of June 2007. So far, no reason to go back; it still doesn't seem to suit my "offline character" and personality.
- Walt Crawford
2 years, 6 months, 4 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 26 minutes, 5 seconds April 17, 2007 (and I was very late to the game, having started at the Computers in Libraries conference in 2007)
- Julian
Um... That would be tipping point in the mainstream early adopters actually... If there is such a thing. I think most other folk thought I was loony for at least another year & a bit...
- Kathryn says love n peace
from iPhone
I don't have to look to know I didn't start using it to Computers In Libraries 2008...and I don't remember why I picked that moment probably read about some folks being on it
- Sir Shuping
Friends, Critics, and Trolls - http://michaelhyatt.com/2009...
If you are a leader, you are going to attract critics. It is inevitable. In fact, if you are’t attracting critics, you should be wondering why. Criticism is normal.
- Bobbi Newman
The Sacred Cows of Library Technologists | ALA TechSource - http://www.alatechsource.org/blog...
The Sacred Cows of Library Technologists
- Bobbi Newman
Annoyed Librarian is not a fan of Library 101: http://www.libraryjournal.com/blog...
since the AL has scoffed your efforts, they have been truly validated! Good On you and @davidleeking MP!
- ♫Geek in the 410♫
Well, there's a big shock! In other news, who the hell cares what the AL thinks?
- josh neff, geek at large
Does anyone even read the Annoyed Librarian anymore? I didn't even realize she was still writing.
- Meredith
Who, now?
- Rochelle Rochelle
*yawn* AL, such a bore.
- Fiona Bradley
I still post my "satire" in the guise of the AL on occasion. ;)
- Free?
you all should see the commentary that agrees with the AL.
- ♫Geek in the 410♫
Here's my take... she heard about it, she clicked, she watched, she read, and she shared. And that's what we asked for.
- David Lee King
Maurice i scanned those comments, it seems like the same sycophants that always agree with no matter what she says.
- Sir Shuping
of course not, AL is an attention whore & liking 101 would not have generated the proper amount, I keep hoping if we refused to give it s/he will either burst into flames or whither & die
- Bobbi Newman
I think DLK is right on, people who don't like 101 are going to post at the AL site, people who like it are going to post elsewhere and we're all sycophantic whores in the right situation.
- Mike
*edges further away from Bobbi*
- josh neff, geek at large
I don't see what's wrong with subtle off-white coloring
- Bobbi Newman
The Library of Today - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/the-lib...
from a non-librarian :-)
- Bobbi Newman
Freedom - OS X Networking Freedom Software - http://macfreedom.com/
Glad you liked it. :-)
- Jason Griffey
just one more reason I need a mac!
- Bobbi Newman
I thought we had already established that. ;)
- teleken
we might have established need, but not funding ;-)
- Bobbi Newman
Wisconsin Libraries Say Cheese - http://www.wisconsinlibraries.org/saychee...
Wisconsin Libraries take pictures for Day in the Life
- Bobbi Newman
can someone help? my eyes just rolled so hard I think they got stuck.
Rachel Singer Gordon, Slavomira Vladimirova, Kol Tregaskes and 28 other people liked this
Snarky Holly is jaded.
- holly
*yawn* *changes the channel*
- Mary Carmen
If I'd wanted to be a rock star, I would've learned to play guitar.
- Kirsten
do rock star librarians get paid more than regular librarians? i could always go for a pay raise...how bad are the groupies?
- Sir Shuping
LOL - I hadn't considered the groupie factor. this may change my opinion! ;)
- holly
Real rock stars are, at least some of them, musicians. I'd guess the average earnings of rock musicians from rock music make library salaries look pretty good by comparison. A handful of them become rockstars--usually for a while. So, you know, be careful what you wish for.
- Walt Crawford
*sigh* *goes back to doing her job well, unconcerned with rockstar status*
- Jenica
What doofus wrote this, Holly? "Rockstar" is such a stupid metaphor. How about: "Are your librarians valued, valuable, essential resources to your community? If not, should they maybe consider wearing leather pants? Hmmmm?" Doofus.
- David Rothman (☤)
I cant afford the hookers and blow it takes to be a rockstar...
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Interesting that the meaning behind the question is being obfuscated with the snark...
- awd
librarians are not rockstars. They are (in the PL) municipal employees: underpaid, overworked, and the brunt of everyone's complaints. Much of this also holds in the academic world, although I have found there to be fewer complaints in the academy.
- DJF
I am a rockstar, but not when I'm at work.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
kendra *is* a rockstar. truth.
- holly
To prove this, I will have a Thee Kendrak Attack Performance at IL.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
WOO!
- holly
Aaron: I think the snark uncovers something here--"rockstar status" may not be ideal or even what you're looking for. Valued contributors aren't usually rockstars...
- Walt Crawford
So you are saying I *shouldn't* install a pyrotechnic display behind the reference desk?
- s t e v e
Steve, make sure to chain all the firedoors closed before you set the display off, to get the maximum effect.
- DJF
Students love our fog machine.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
The "rockstar" language that we often see is funny to me since rockstars seem to have less and less cultural currency anyway.There are pop stars, and there are quasi-indie pseudo-stars like Radiohead. But the idea of the "rock star" as the guy in the leather pants with the groupies and the eye makeup and the half-hour drum solo--those guys are dinosaurs. So the last thing we want to be should be rock stars. Gee, this is like a blog post.
- s t e v e
Steve, you make an excellent point. How many people actually want that sort of thing anyhow? This weekend I hung out with the "rockstars" of my youth, and their appeal didn't come from leather pants or mega drum solos, but from an amazing attitude and energy and some amazing songs. That's what I want to emulate. Now, I'll never be the Operation Ivy of the library world, or even Rancid, but what about Common Rider or Schlong?
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
If we are rock stars does that mean we have to wear leather pants? If so, count me out!
- Bobbi Newman
The only rockstars in librarianship are the Dutch Boys. That's because they have accents, leather jackets and groupies.
- Rochelle Rochelle
And they travel around the country in a van and are a little older than you might expect.
- s t e v e
Kendra, if I could be the Cometbus of libraries, I'd be a very happy man.
- s t e v e
I think you're not far off. I don't know who I'd want to be. Not really Jesse Michaels, not Dr Frank, I'll go for my gut and my heart and want to be the Dallas Denery of the library world. It's totally achievable.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
I'm a studio player. No fame, but a moderately steady paycheque.
- DJF
Not too hard to guess, Steve. I know my age peers when I see 'em.
- Rochelle Rochelle
And, you know, not all of us are wildly in love with the Dutch Boys. (Ducks and runs away.)
- Walt Crawford
no need to run away, Walt. that is a-okay in my thread!
- holly
we need more rockstars in education, seriously.. we need people who can do their jobs amazingly, achieve impact and influence our wider system
- Holly Rae
Clothing Line: "Break the mold join the rock star librarian movement!" http://www.zazzle.com/rocksta...
- JSNFLMNG
Jason, that makes me think of "you are unique, just like everyone else."
- ǎňňǎ
totally: everyone can be a rockstar librarian 9if you wear our clothes)
- JSNFLMNG
to me, it just smacks of TRYING TOO HARD. all of this rockstar stuff does.
- holly
Nancy Pearl: "The original RockStar Librarian" http://bookchase.blogspot.com/2007...
- JSNFLMNG
Cynthia Wilson =Rockstar Librarian http://www.myspace.com/iamalib...
- JSNFLMNG
Ok, going back on myself a little: I like a little rockstar now and then. And the Dutch guys seem like pretty decent ones. They give real interviews where they give their subjects time to talk. They seem to get librarians generally feeling good about libraries and the work we do. I'm eating meringue cookies as I type this: I can't live on meringue cookies, but I don't have to.
- s t e v e
that's cool, Steve. I know lotsa people like 'em, they just don't do it for me. kinda like cilantro. and licorice.
- holly
First of all, unless you're Prince, you need to type out y-o-u, not the letter U. Second of all... yeah. I've got nothing beyond that.
- cecily
HOW AWESOME WOULD IT BE IF THAT *WAS* PRINCE?
- s t e v e
Well, I was running away to logoff and get lunch. To clarify: Not in love with means what it says. I see what they're doing, they seem like decent folks...but I also noticed the way they managed to treat apparently-non-rockstars as invisible in at least one social setting, navigating automatically to The Hot Folks. Which is OK, but doesn't require my admiration. But, as you suggest, nothing wrong with rockstars...once in a while.
- Walt Crawford
This is from David Lee King who I DO like, and who I like more than other people who I would have expected to say something like this (and who will remain nameless).
- Mike
David Rothman - I'm the doofus who wrote this. Cool - lots of interesting comments for my impending blog post!
- David Lee King
DLK makes me laugh out loud ;)
- JSNFLMNG
Remember, I am the Dallas Denery of the library world - obscure but brilliant, with a fair amount of self deprecation.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Oh sheesh people. Some of you are deleting your comments! Get real.
- David Lee King
oh seriously? lame.
- holly
quick.. cache... too late.. didn't think to take a screenshot sorry
- JSNFLMNG
<threadjack>Holly just HAD to drag cilantro into this, didn't you?</threadjack>
- Miriella
No, wait - it's back. That was odd. Sorry - false alarm (very glad for that, too).
- David Lee King
oh good. AND YOU KNOW I DID, MERRY. and I'd do it again ;)
- holly
<threadjack>Holly's hatred of Cilantro is a perfectly valid comment</threadjack>
- JSNFLMNG
OK - my goal with the tweet was to ... well ... get a reaction. Which I apparently did. Yay for me.
- David Lee King
Haters.
- Miriella
But here's what I mean - my library's communication specialist originally said this when a ref lib was worried that something was a bit too much about her (meaning her name and pic were attached). Cm Spec said "yep - my goal is to make YOU the rockstar, not me."
- David Lee King
Meaning - our librarians ARE (well, or should be) a valued resource in the community. Let's take that 1 step further - have people ask for us, want to follow our writing in our library blog posts, want to attend our classes, etc.
- David Lee King
I've heard a manager tell an employee they were a rockstar before (but it kind of sounded like a derogative statement) -as in you put yourself too far out there on the stage.-and- yo should try to do more workwork instead
- JSNFLMNG
people don't friend brands or books. They friend people. Interesting people. People who call each other doofuses (oh wait - silly barb alert). Want your library to start getting noticed in your town? Start getting out, doing stuff, letting people know your names, etc.
- David Lee King
Lester Public Library's director does that - he's got a column in their local newspaper! People know him.
- David Lee King
So that's where I was headed with those thoughts. Now, you can continue rolling eyes if you need to :-)
- David Lee King
pssshaw...let me show you how to be a Rockstar Librarian. You can help me trash my room in a drunken blackout at CiL.
- Rev. Dr. W!cKeD Rock
woooooooooo \m/ \m/
- holly
who's gonna the gg allin of librarians? this community needs that sort of rebel.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
DLK, here's my actual, sincere response: As a librarian, I don't want to be a rockstar, to be ogled from afar and immortalized on an impossible pedestal for doing flashy, sexy things. I want to be respected, valued, and appreciated for the real contributions that I make to my community, and remembered for those things. Alternately, I'd like to be Angelina Jolie. Either would be fine.
- Jenica
i'm more of a superhero in my community, rather than a rockstar: http://orgmonkey.net/?p=696
- a creature was stirring
Jenica - that's fair. And I think that there's a large group of librarians that want that. There are others who would rather the community focused on the library's resources, rather than on them personally. And that's just wrong, because the librarian is an amazing resource for the community.
- David Lee King
Hi David! Reading over this, I feel pretty good about my contribution. Certain libraries in certain communities may need a "rock star"--someone who looks good on TV, who can sum up what the library is about in a memorable chorus. In my community, I think the more down-to-earth, DIY punk/hippie thing is a better way to think about it--someone you can share a joke with, ask a stupid question of, someone who will say "wow, I have no idea how to answer your question! That's neat!"
- s t e v e
I don't know that it's "just wrong," David. The library is bigger than I am. It was here before I came along & it will be here after I go. I think I'm a pretty cool guy, but honestly, the library & all of my coworkers are much better resources than I am. Yes, I would rather the focus be on my library & everyone who works here than on me.
- josh neff, geek at large
Josh - that's cool. But even then, you are focusing on the people rather than on the stuff, which is what I'm getting at.
- David Lee King
Well, it's both. I mean, we're all good resources, but so are our books, DVDs, periodicals, databases, etc. Plus our comfy seating, our public computers, our wifi. It's the whole shebang.
- josh neff, geek at large
Steve - that works. Someone else said "I'm more of a superhero" above, and Jenica said "valued contributor of community" ... Again, just thinking out loud, but I think some of this is similar to what I'm meaning. It's quite possible that using "rockstar" pushed some buttons (I'm apparently good at that sometimes).
- David Lee King
Josh - B&N has that. Except for the databases. What's the diff?
- David Lee King
Heh, that you are! Naw, I get it--the question seems to be "are your librarians active and known as librarians in your community, and how important is that?" And if you don't know the diff between B&N and the library, I can't help you.
- s t e v e
Ye - that's what I'm sayin. And yes, I DO know the diff. But I think it's the librarians that make the difference. We arrange the stuff, we help find it, we teach about it, etc. A library's much more than it's stuff, I think.
- David Lee King
David, I've worked for Borders & I've worked for public libraries, & I guarantee, it's not just the librarians that make them two different places to work or patronize.
- josh neff, geek at large
Wondering if I'm more of a Keith Emerson (cult ultratalented prog-rocker) than a Keith Richards (mega-superstar).
- Mike
You got me there Josh - I've never worked there. Just know two people now who have or did. Interestingly, the other one plays bass in local KC bands ... and wants to become a librarian, too. ohshootIbroughtitbacktotherockstarsagain!
- David Lee King
DLK: like a church is much more than the building people worship in and the book they read out of? A pastor (insert religious figurehead here) can fire up a church, and members of the church can be beacons of kindness etc... and it is more of a community of information sharing/gathering working together in unison
- JSNFLMNG
Jason - yep - that's a good analogy, too. Wow. So far, we have rockstars, superheroes, pastors, and valued contributors. And doofuses.
- David Lee King
Rock n' roll library http://www.librarystuff.net/2009...
- Mike
I think it's the mission of the library and the mission of the bookstore that make them so different. Competent people in each can make both of them important parts of the community. Yes, we think more of Powells or the Tattered Cover or something when we think of a bookstore as a valued member of the community, but I think a chain store in a town that hasn't had a decent bookstore can...
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- s t e v e
Speaking of which, I am going to the Tattered Cover tonight for a book signing...
- Joe
Besides librarians (rockstar & non-rockstar), libraries offer access to free information & entertainment, free literacy resources, free classes, free internet access (not just wifi, but computers for those who don't have their own) & free space. I worked at Borders while I was in library school & right after I graduated. No matter how much of a librarian I was at heart & in behavior,...
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- josh neff, geek at large
Josh - I get that. Really, I do. You say "I believe in the mission of libraries & what they have to offer a community." My earlier thought was this - One thing libraries DO have that they tend to not focus on much (or market) is their staff. We tend to promote the class & the resource before we promote the person behind the class or resource. So I agree with you, but I'm thinking about it from a different angle right now.
- David Lee King
If I hadn't just finished the first draft of an absurdly long Making it Work/Philosophy essay, I'd be tempted to snatch this whole thread for use there...some really good stuff being said here. (I grew up Methodist, and if we had rockstar ministers, they'd be snatched away by other congregations with greater pull at the Conference level, where assignments were made...)
- Walt Crawford
I have to think most everyone here's right. I want to be the earnest contributor, but a large part of my job as director is to be The Voice and The Face. We have to humanize our services as much as we have to build good services...
- Jenica
David, can you tell me which libraries are keeping their staff hidden? Because every library I've worked at has had staff doing community outreach & regular patrons who got to know which staff member was good at what. If you look at my library's website, you'll see staff promoted all over the place. Now, most libraries I've been at have promoted services & collections *first*, but you...
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- josh neff, geek at large
Good points, Jenica. You are right :-)
- David Lee King
Josh - well, your library is an exception, cause y'all rock (oops - sorry about that :-). I haven't seen many libraries hide librarians (though I do know some, and won't name them) ... but I HAVE seen plenty of librarians hide themselves. Hide themselves behind their stuff, their fears of standing in front of people, their fears of being known (even in my library, just the fact that we...
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- David Lee King
Oh sure, I've seen that, too. Putting pics of our staff up on our website wasn't met with universal enthusiasm. But not everyone *wants* to be in the spotlight. Not everyone *wants* to be a rockstar. Is that really a problem?
- josh neff, geek at large
Well ... yeah. I DO think that's a problem. And here's how I'd spin that - a library wants to go in a new direction. Change their name, put faces, names, etc on the website. Go out in the community to attract people to the library and it's stuff (I'm thinking of my recent trip to anythink libraries in the denver area here). If some staff aren't on board ... well, they're not meeting the...
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- David Lee King
Interesting. I have long said that I don't think everyone has to be a "2.0 librarian" or whatever you want to call it, but that everyone does have to accept that libraries are changing and the status quo won't last long. So they don't all have to be guitar heroes, but if the library is going that way, they don't have the right to undermine those kinds of people and programs once they are in place.
- s t e v e
I think several of you have made excellent points. I agree with DLKing that libraries need to be as present in their communities as possible, though I would argue that there are different "rockstar curves" (if I may coin a pointless phrase) for different libraries, in the sense that some libraries may have every staff member interacting regularly and thoroughly with the public. Others...
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- Louise Alcorn
In response to something Josh said, I've really struggled here with some of our staff, who are technically front-line staff, but who, given the opportunity, will keep from interacting with the public except at a bare minimum. A pleasant minimum, but still less than we could do. This is not unusual in libraries, as far as I can tell from what I hear from my colleagues. It takes a really...
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- Louise Alcorn
I'm certainly not arguing that working on the "front lines" isn't a public service job. But why, exactly, is it a problem if some staff don't want to be "rockstars"? I mean, I understand, David, that you think it's a problem. I just don't see *why* you think it's a problem. As long as they're not undermining the other staff, as Steve said, what's the problem with having some staff who...
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- josh neff, geek at large
Why? I'll try to answer. I think that "quietly doing their jobs" = complacency and falling into a traditional rut, which = death for the library. Never a good thing - in libraries, in any industry. The book Good to Great talks about that. But I also agree with Louise - this depends on the library and their goals. I also like what she said about "audience." I read somewhere that in a...
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- David Lee King
Wow. That makes me sad. Quietly & effectively doing your job is "complacency & falling into a traditional rut"? And that means "death for the library"? I don't see that at all. I certainly don't think that the key to library success is "be more like me."
- josh neff, geek at large
Just telling you what lots and lots of librarians have told me. For them, "quietly doing their jobs" = no one stepping up to the plate to do the next thing (whatever that thing is) or (even worse) hoping no one notices them so they can minimally function at their job then go home. Effectively? Not sure you CAN be effective AND quiet... depends on what you mean by quiet. Doesn't share ideas at meetings? Doesn't ever have new ideas but still answers questions? What do you mean by quiet and effective?
- David Lee King
See, when I think "rock star", I think about the librarians who have lots of speaking/preso gigs, or a whole lot of exposure beyond their community base, and that the quiet & effective folks we're mentioning just do their jobs and dont go on the circuit as much. And the quiet and ineffective ones need to go or be retrained. But that's my understanding.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
I mean not putting yourself in the spotlight, not acting like the fish dudes, but when a patron comes in needing help, you help them. When something needs to be done, you do it, not with a lot of flash, you just get it done. If you have ideas, you share them, but what if you don't have any ideas? At my library, I see a lot of good, qualified people who do their jobs but don't make a lot...
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- josh neff, geek at large
Sometimes "great" is "coming up with a brilliant new way of doing something." And sometimes "great" is "cleaning up puke, because goddammit, someone needs to do it."
- josh neff, geek at large
Maybe I read your "quiet and effective" statement wrong. Sorry if I did! We might be talking about 2 different things here. Hope so! If they're quiet, and do their jobs well - that's wonderful. I'm certainly not meaning everyone has to be an extrovert! Heck, I'm a huge wallflower. But if they're quiet and don't speak up at a meeting (part of their job IS participating at a meeting) but then complaining about it later... that's something else entirely.
- David Lee King
And I agree with your "puke" thing - in both cases, the person went the extra mile.
- David Lee King
Of course, David, but I didn't think by "rockstar" you meant "someone who speaks up in meetings, instead of staying quiet but grumbling about it later."
- josh neff, geek at large
My point was, just because you're not a "rockstar" in your community doesn't mean you're a bad librarian.
- josh neff, geek at large
DLK- A doofusy thing is a doofusy thing, no matter who says it. Everyone says 'em. The internet just makes 'em widespread and permanent. I'd like to add that if your ambition as a LIS talking head is to evoke reaction, I strongly suggest pursuing more useful and meaningful ambitions. Your constant message seems to be "do more, be better," - and I love that- but the way that you sometimes say it (hyperbole, radical oversimplification, self-promotion) spoils the appeal of the message for me.
- David Rothman (☤)
Agreed. But I also think that there's a pretty wide space between being a good librarian and being a community "rockstar" that could be explored a bit more by libraries... that's all.
- David Lee King
A couple of comments. First of all, this seems to me to be pretty well the same conversation as all those SLA/ASKPro threads. Who are and what do we do, is there and "old" way vs a "new" way.
- John Dupuis
Know what? Twitter is lousy for nuance. The role of the librarian perhaps deserves more nuance than terms like "rockstar."
- David Rothman (☤)
David Rothman - to each his own. My goal isn't to evoke reaction (though I do that). It's always been to toy with ideas in my head, to share, and to see what others think. OTher people come along for the ride, whether or not they agree, and that's cool
- David Lee King
And I must say - you didn't say "doofusy thing" - You said "what doofus wrote this, Holly?" I agree with your doofusy thing comment. The other? Not so much.
- David Lee King
Second, I think a lot of the discomfort with the Rockstar term has to do with authenticity. When we think rockstar, we think of people who are clearly deluded (ie. Ozzy) and people who are famous for the sake of being famous or who want to be rockstars to show up everyone else or just to show off. I don't think this attracts more librarians or, in fact, most people, when it comes to how they do their jobs. People want to be authentic in their public personas, not something false and uncomfortable.
- John Dupuis
John - you're right, and with my original thoughts, I wasn't going for deluded or fake! I'd just heard the statements more than once and was saying them "out loud." Yes - authenticity is hugely important - we can't be taken seriously otherwise.
- David Lee King
At the same time, it's vitally important for librarians to be deeply connected to their communities, to be involved and visible. But I think the message here is that people want to be the Laurence Lessig or Clay Shirky of their library community outreach, not the Ozzy Osbourne or the Jon & Kate.
- John Dupuis
DLK- sorry, but get over it. You say you wanted to evoke reaction. Fine, here's my reaction: it was a ridiculous thing to say. I didn't know who said it, just that it was ridiculous. I stand by that estimation. Yay! You evoked reaction- so stop portraying hurt feelings over it. If you aren't ready to receive disagreement and criticism, I strongly suggest not constantly posting your opinions online where they are subject to criticism.
- David Rothman (☤)
DLK, that's great, it's just that you're never going to evoke an image of authenticity if you're talking about rockstars. Except for maybe Springsteen, but that's another thread.
- John Dupuis
David - whatever. I disagree. No hurt feeling here - just pointing out what you said. Seriously - I love it when people disagree on my blog, in FF, in twitter, etc. But name-calling, even to anonymous people, is simply not cool. The "reaction" I meant from my original tweet was to say something and have people respond - not to see if I could get anyone riled.
- David Lee King
John - yeah, I think you're right. Interestingly, people like Clay Shirky are called rockstars...
- David Lee King
Several of the libraries I've worked with have been well served to keep some of their librarians hidden. On the other point - I totally want to be the Ozzy Osbourne of Libraryland. lmao In fact, going forward, I'd like to be referred to as the 'Prince of Darkness'. Seriously though, David, 'Rockstar' has connotations in the profession now...as in Colleen's (warmaiden's) definition. So, I think perhaps this is somewhat at the root of this long discussion. *wanders off mumbling*
- Rev. Dr. W!cKeD Rock
Yep, you are correct I'm thinking, oh Prince of Darkness :-) Bad choice of words on my part.
- David Lee King
David, true about Shirky, but I'm thinking more along the lines of contrasting *wanting* to be a rockstar rather than ending up as one -- although I can only guess at other people's true motivations, of course. Rev D, I was thinking more Ozzy 2009 rather than Ozzy 1975...and I'm afraid I don't know Colleen's rockstar definition -- is there a reference?
- John Dupuis
My initial reaction has nothing to do with the message, which I agree with. It's with the hackneyed use of the word "rockstar" which, as someone who has spent a fair amount of time among web/software developers, makes me want to scoop my eyes out with a white hot spoon whenever I read/hear it. I prefer Jenica's original statement. Rockstars aren't approachable. They're someone you...
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- cecily
John - it's in this thread somewhere ... look for The Archangel ωαřмaiden
- David Lee King
Cecily - nice. I like that.
- David Lee King
And I still stand by my original comment about Prince. ;-)
- cecily
DLK- Again: get over it. It was a doofusy thing to say and I didn't know who said it. I revise my original statement: "What individual said this ridiculously doofusy thing?" Better?
- David Rothman (☤)
This project - http://www.librariesincommunities.ca/ - gave rise to a new position at a couple of branches in my organization, that of a Community Liaison librarian. This person is the face of the library for many community groups, particularly those under served populations. Would they be rockstars?
- cecily
David Rothman - nothing to get over, but yeah - that's better. But really, I much prefer the name a patron called me a month or two ago - "sarcastic library nazi." That is a name worth a couple of giggles, at least :-)
- David Lee King
Cecily - wow - that's a cool project! Yes, I think that would qualify (though I'm starting to shy away from "rockstar" a bit :-). But yes - being a human, a face, an actual person... that's what I'm trying to get at, I think
- David Lee King
DLK- You seriously prefer to be called a Nazi than a doofus? Wow. Just: Wow.
- David Rothman (☤)
oh stop it. It was a joke about a stupid name someone called me who was WAY off her rocker. we chuckled about it at my lib, after everyone agreed that I'm pretty much the exact opposite of a nazi. Sheesh.
- David Lee King
I think the discussion is useful here. The level of snark and one-upsmanship some of the comments have though is frustrating. But I'd advise a few of us to take a chill right about now. Figuring out what is best for libs is what this is all about in the long run.
- Michael Porter
I'm a rock star, but I want to live like common people. I want to do whatever common people do.
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
*rolls eyes and goes off to hang with Holly*
- David Rothman (☤)
I want to sleep with common people. I want to sleep with common people, like you.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Well, what else could I do?
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
I'll see what I can do.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
and dance, and drink, and....
- Michael Porter
because there's nothing else to do.
- Jenica
And...scene.
- s t e v e
DO ANYBODY NO WHO DERRICK LIKES
- anna sauce
This thread is clear proof that FRIENDFEED IS DEAD!!!
- josh neff, geek at large
deader than a doornail!
- holly
OK, I thought I could close it out, but since there are more comments, I'm gonna say this: While I often disagree with David Lee King about this kind of thing--the emphases he places, the language he uses, the value of "getting reactions"--I respect that he's happy to come in here and talk about it without getting too worked up or personal about it, even when we've been snarky. I think that's pretty cool.
- s t e v e
Absolutely, Steve.
- josh neff, geek at large
totally agree
- holly
Late to the party, but I also fully agree with Steve's last statement.
- Walt Crawford
I was gonna go with Meg FTW, but good point Steve ;)
- JSNFLMNG
I love this conversation, snark, silliness and all. P.S. I like to think of myself as a roadie. I do a lot of grunt work, but without me, the show doesn't happen. And I still get to take chicks back to my hotel. Er, dudes, whatever.
- Rochelle Rochelle
As I said on Twitter 5 mins after DLK's post - we should be working to make our users Rock Stars, not ourselves
- Kathryn says love n peace
I wrote about this three years ago, but I'm not sure I'd write it again today. http://rochellejustrochelle.ty...
- Rochelle Rochelle
The reason I'd be a library superhero (not a rockstar) is to help advance my career, plain and simple. If I can advance my career by helping to improve the library's services, and by helping them deliver user experiences that the public enjoy using, then all the better. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with trying to get ahead by delivering stellar service. I don't think...
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- cecily
And I agree with Kathryn - it's our users who should feel like rock stars, not us.
- cecily
Really though, out of a population of a city, what percentage use their public library?
- Itachi
Worldchanging: Bright Green: Gin, Television, and Social Surplus - http://www.worldchanging.com/archive...
transcript of Clay Shirky talk on time, gin, sitcoms, wikipedia http://blip.tv/file/855937
- Bobbi Newman
Archive quotes | Slow Family Living - http://slowfamilyliving.com/categor...
Don’t take yourself so seriously. No one else does.
- Bobbi Newman
Dr. office scale put my weight at a full ten pounds more than I thought it was (having last weighed myself 4-6 weeks ago). Wii Fit confirmed that I'm overweight and put my "Wii Fit Age" at 53 (I'm 38). Hurf. Durf.
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right there with you. I won't let Wii Fit tell me my current age. I did get EA Sports Active last week. it's not so naggeriffic.
- holly
I am going to try EASA tonight, I think. I didn't go to the gym today and feel guilty about it.
- Jàson Puçkett
Jason, I didn't got to the gym this lifetime and am finally feeling the effects.
- s t e v e
Dude, I started a year ago, at 39. I feel and look better than I did this time last year after exercising 2-3 times a week. I was the most sedentary person I know, so if I can do it you can.
- Jàson Puçkett
Thanks Jason. I'm keeping your example and Greg's in mind.
- s t e v e
down 42 pounds with big help from Wii Fit. it works!
- Mary Carmen
Greg and MC are my inspirational examples. Moral support helps keep me motivated, so post if you ever need it.
- Jàson Puçkett
As much as I hate the gym, and working out, and lifting weights, etc., I can't deny that I feel awesome after I do. Plus, I'm just entirely too fat right now.
- Derrick
Jason and Greg and Derrick and everyone are my support....definitely post if you need to
- Mary Carmen
agreed, y'all are my online inspiration.
- holly
this just makes me glad I don't have a Wii Fit :-)
- Bobbi Newman
Btw, Steve, don't put much stock in the Wii Fit age. It varies wildly depending on the day and which tests you're good at.
- Jàson Puçkett
Yeah, it gave me a test I couldn't do at all.
- s t e v e
Goddess almighty, I'm going to the gym in the morning. :(
- Derrick
Steve, I've never gone to the gym...but must admit, after five years of treadmill 5 days/week, now replaced by brisk long walks daily & hikes fortnightly, I feel better and have more stamina at 64 than I did at 39 (and am, finally, at my desired weight, apparently regardless of what I eat). Regular exercise does work, at least for most of us.
- Walt Crawford
On the subject of Wii Fit, WF Plus is getting great reviews and word of mouth says it's a lot more fun.
- Jàson Puçkett
Yeah, we got that. I dunno. It's the same old thing to me. If it were up to me, I'd sell the Wii, but my family would sell ME if I did that.
- s t e v e
I'm not as good with using WF as I should be, but I've started walking laps around my office building on the days I can wear jeans & gymshoes, and that's helped a lot. Haven't really lost much weight that I can tell (I've been wildly fluctuating according to the WF), but I'm feeling better. One of these days, I plan on buying a treadmill that I can plop in front of the TV so I can watch movies or whatever and walk for at least a 1/2 hour a day w/o much thought.
- Katie
Katie: Careful about the treadmill--check for radio interference (which could also affect TV, but more specifically could blow out DSL and similar services). There must be some that are OK, but that's the reason I no longer treadmill: The DSL modem would have had to be at least 60 feet away from the treadmill, and our house isn't *that* big. Enormous amounts of RFI... (This was a Nordic Track; others might, or might not, be better.)
- Walt Crawford
Oooo...WF Plus! Christmas gift!
- Mary Carmen
Thanks for the tip, Walt! That is *definitely* something I would not have ever considered. Any way to determine if a treadmill gives off radio interference?
- Katie
Take a battery-operated AM radio with you to the store; if you can turn it on (with the treadmill off) and don't get huge static on empty tuning positions, turn on the treadmill (any speed), see what happens to the static. If it goes up--probably dramatically--see how far away you have to get before it quiets down. (Unfortunately, a store may have lots of other RFI sources...)
- Walt Crawford
next week I have 10 min to explain what open source is & why its important, what do I absolutely have to include?
that there is support for it, in some cases better than pay for services, it just depends upon the product/company
- Sir Shuping
ooops forgot to include that this is for the Library Board
- Bobbi Newman
ok it's cold again now. i don't mind, i just need the weather to make up it's freaking mind!!! stop toying with us weather!
I concur!
- Bobbi Newman
Can't sleep, clowns will eat me
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BOBBI YOU WANT TO SEE MY NEW CHAINSAW AND HOCKEY MASK?!?!?
- s t e v e
& I thought clowns were bad but a clown with a hockey mask & chainsaw? Oh hell no
- Bobbi Newman
*hides under blanket*
- a creature was stirring
from iPhone
You know, for kids.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
Which reminds me...I need to see if IT is available on Watch Instantly.
- Admiral Anika
Last tweet on my timeline was from one hour ago. The whole world stops tweeting at once?
nope I noticed that too on twitter homepage and tweetdeck weird right?
- Bobbi Newman
yup...I'm voting that twitterfox has crashed
- Abigail
noticing lags on tweetdeck and web too; my last tweet is from more than an hour ago -- but RTs and DMs are getting through (altho slower)
- Heather Braum
Boy once the flood gates open I bet we'll all be inundated by tons of Tweets...odd Twhirl lets me tweet shows up for me but getting nothing from anyone else. If I Tweet and no one reads it does it still count as a Tweet?
- Mlibrarianus
Looks like timelines are messed up, but my tweet showed up on profile. It also went to FriendFeed, obviously.
- Heidi Blanton
Once again it is twitter being twitter.
- ♫Geek in the 410♫
I just love that because Twitter is being Twitter we're all over on FriendFeed talking about it :) At least we can always count on FriendFeed...
- Heidi Blanton
Uh oh. Heidi, you just hexed FF by saying that.
- Ruth, just Ruth
Twitter seems to be frozen at 3 hours ago, except for my tweet from 36 minutes ago.
- Liam Sullivan
being reminded that you're never as good of a communicator as you think you are
Yes I did!
- Jàson Puçkett
what's that now?
- Bobbi Newman
Stephanie *hates* this. (when it happens to her, that is)
- Stephanie_Thankful
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