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"When I run the world, librarians will be exempt from tragedy. Even their smaller sorrows will last only as long as you can take out a book." ~From Karen Joy Fowler's *We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves*
If it's an ebook on some platforms, that could take a while. :P - barbara fister
that's true...or if she's using a faculty member's loan period.... ;) - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
Ah, I was thinking 'as long as it took to check out a book." When I check out a book it's due the end of next May. I could be VERY SAD. - barbara fister
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αnnα vαȵ scoyoç i am now the official coordinator for my branch's manga/anime club. any suggested resources for locating manga-related activities would be greatly appreciated!
You get a raise, right? - Jason P
Other Duties As Assigned and Unpaid? - ♫Maurice the Trainer♫
exactly, mo. exactly. - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
the Ashman Anime Club has been around for over a decade. I don't know who's running it now, but I know Margie Saaf-Navarre used to be, and can ask around to find out if you'd like. Failing that, might give you some useful ideas. - RepoRat
the ashman anime's site has great info! thank you!!!! - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
#lazyweb I need to find classic bibliometric research that showed the extents of different citation delays in various disciplines i.e. geosciences about 5 years to peak, medicine much quicker. I need it to inform my IT bosses about expectations for data citations. I can do a search Monday but it would be great if someone has it to hand. Thanks.
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have any of you used or something similar?????
Apparently, Bunyamin has - maʀtha
okay, now this doesn't make any sense :) - maʀtha
Darla Gutierrez
Has your library registered for ALA's International Games Day? It's a worldwide event to help celebrate gaming communities in libraries! The event is Nov 3rd but it's not too late to register and get codes for free copies of Popcap's Bookworm games! Register here: And follow us on facebook!
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later today, adventures in library instruction discusses "instruction burnout," as well as how to manage instruction loads. [yes, we know school *JUST* started]. what does YOUR organization do to manage instruction overload and burnout?
ha haa haaaaa... oh, wait, that's not very helpful... It's more of an Art than a Science here... As long as there are a few hours in the week left over after instruction (for the heavy instruction weeks) it's considered "good enough" (also, we're down to 5 libns from a recent high of 8 and way down from our all time high of 12 (in the '90s) - we do such good sessions, we're increasing the session count, too) - Aaron the Librarian
i know. it's tricky, isn't it? i think a lot of programs are re-evaluating priorities, as well as even saying, "no" to instruction requests. i guess we did our jobs too well -- right? instruction requests are booming everywhere beyond what staff's can handle. - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
Anecdotally, 2 years ago I created heavy-duty online course guides for specific classes (assignment based guides) and based my instruction sessions on them. Last year many professors said "thanks for the online guide from last year, I think the class won't need a f2f session." This year many of those same professors clamored for f2f instruction sessions in addition to the already... more... - Aaron the Librarian
aaron, did they tell you *why* they wanted f2f again [in addition to the online guide]? i have my theories, but i'm interested it if they gave you any feedback. - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
Wow, a break from ref desk during the first month of classes would go a long way. - Jason P
Here they started doing 2 week rota cycles during busy times, to make it easier for us to take last minute stuff. Also, the desk is staffed not just by librarians so there is a pool of people to draw on. - Pete
@jason, that's what *i* was thinking!!!! you mean...i could focus on classes?????? i know the ref desk is busy that first month -- but i'm going to go out on a limb and say it's mainly directional, logistics, printing [a-hem], etc.... @pete, i love the "pool" idea -- i know ref desk schedules are just starting to draw upon librarians throughout the org, not just the "ref department." - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
We've had to start closing our desk due to staff loss and all of us teaching simultaneously. It'll settle down in a couple of weeks and we should be back to a staffed desk. Frustrating though when one refers people to the desk in class but knows we might have it closed. - Hedgehog
αnnα, only one prof gave me a why ("there was a noticeable drop in citation quality") -- I assume the rest were for a similar reason. - Aaron the Librarian
I can't seem to find the link for this podcast on instruction burnout - did the crew go on hiatus before this was recorded? - Jen
This is an old (2011) episode that got bumped due to Anna's Turkish spammer posting to the thread. Here it is: - Jason P
thanks, turkish, spammer!!!!!! - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
Oops - it's not 2011 anymore (!) Great timing to be thinking about burnout though. - Jen
Turkish spammer has been reported, and all of his/her spam comments deleted except the ones I used as examples (which includes this one). Carry on! - Catherine Pellegrino
Earthquake Damaged Libraries Photographed in Japan - GalleyCat -
Earthquake Damaged Libraries Photographed in Japan - GalleyCat
Japanese librarians and library patrons have been collecting photographs of earthquake-damaged libraries at this link. Here’s a rough Google Translate version of the caption for the picture embedded above: “The Library Media Center immediately after the earthquake took the SFC. Even though this shake Fujisawa, Kanagawa. I fell and almost all books on the top bunk. Glad no people injured.” If anyone knows of a library-focused charity in Japan, we will be happy to share the link. If you want to help, the Authors for Japan site just launched yesterday, as writers and publishing professionals have donated some great prizes to raise funds for earthquake and tsunami relief in Japan. We also created a Twitter list of writers living in Japan. - CarlC from Bookmarklet
Joseba Abaitua
Impresive pictures of earthquake damage to libraries in Japan
Exagono Bibliotecario
Más allá de la Folcsonomía
Dónde está el enlace? - Joseba Abaitua
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does *anyone* out there allow patrons to download eBooks via the library's public computers? anyone? anyone?
There are a couple of libraries that do, but they are AFIK public domain drm free books. - ♫Maurice the Trainer♫ from iPod
thanks, maurice! is it in overdrive's "terms" that overdrive ebooks can't be downloaded to public pcs? - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
We do. - laura x from iPhone
Anna--yes. And, you can't even do ebooks from their download stations, if I am remembering correctly. Just audio. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
laura, overdrive titles a la Adobe Digital Editions (for nook, sony reader, etc. users)? - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
We don't do this because I think you can only use your personal ADE account on up to 5 or 6 computers and we don't want to be responsible for helping to manage that for patrons. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
The DRM makes downloading via the library's public computers nigh impossible. (As in, "yes, it can be done, but no it won't happen" due to the authorization stuff with ADE.) Kindle people could checkout books on a public computer and then sync their Kindle on a library wireless network. iPad/iPod Touch/iPhone users could check out books using the Overdrive Media Console app and the library's wireless. Even that is stretching the definition of what is doable. - Andy
thanks, all. i thought the issue was one software/computer to one Adobe ID, but users can "deauthorize" ADE by CTRL+SHIFT+D, so different users can use the ADE software on one i had wondered if it was an overdrive terms thing. ipad/kindle/sony reader (w/ wifi) are good to go; it's the "others" (e.g., NOOK users) that really can't get ebooks actually ON their devices in the library. - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
*grinds teeth* - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
yeah. i've started drinking already. :) - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
I'm hoping that in 2 or 3 years will look back and be able to say, "how in the hell did we ever put up with that bullshit?!" - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
I'm already saying that, Rochelle, and I'm at an academic. Overdrive won't even talk to us, even though we have money, and the academic ebooks we have are only now starting to allow offline access. FML. - kaijsa
Problem is not just Overdrive. Yesterday we were told by Ebrary that if our users want to use the iPad app, they'll have to log in via Facebook. And our response was "EXCUSE ME?" - Sara Q. Thompson
The answer to that is, "no." - DJF
That's not even true. You can make an account on ebrary and use that to log into the iPad app. You also have to have an Adobe Digital Editions logon (which is annoying), but you don't HAVE to use Facebook. - kaijsa
My "not true" is aimed at Ebrary. I fully believe a rep told you that info. - kaijsa
WE don't do this for the reasons Ro mentioned - the issues with ADE. Also, Ro, does anyone even have OD download stations at this point? - Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
100 Extensive University Libraries from Around the World that Anyone Can Access « mary & mac design -
David Rothman (☤)
@medlibs #medlibs Exasperated. Scopus RSS feed cannot be seen by Google Reader or by Yahoo Pipes. Grrr. Any suggestions?
Is it essential that the proxy be part of it? - Nikki D.
The proxy part stuffs up RSS feeds from most databases (with the exception of Compendex, IIRC). Manually deleting it from the feed url generally allows the feed to work. - Deborah Fitchett
There is a way to set the ezproxy to not choke on rss feeds, but yeah i remove the proxy usually. Is the sciencedirect rss problem fixed btw? - aaron
Did you try Feedburner? I think I have some of them in there. - Guus van den Brekel
Yeah. Yanked the proxy stuff out of the URL...surprised our library hasn't addressed the issue. I guess few users want RSS alerts from Scopus. - David Rothman (☤) from Android
David Rothman (☤)
I'm looking for advice from a RefWorks ninja familiar with NLM citation style requirements. Anyone?
i know RefWorks but not nlm, sorry - Christina Pikas
I also know RefWorks but not NLM. So am not really helpful, too. - Regular Amanda
(But post your question, and I'll give it a whack! Just not a very good whack.) - Regular Amanda
Thanks, guys! Ended up going to our own library to discuss with reference librarian...who agrees that RefWorks simply can't properly record conference presentations and produce correct NLM citations. Disappointing, because that would have been very convenient. Now learning all about Zotero thanks to the excellent book by Jason Puckett. I am a fussy, picky, hyper-critical jerk- and I can find nothing about this book I don't like. It is outstanding. - David Rothman (☤)
there have been talks recently on the refworks admin listserv about conference presentations and other reference types needed but not supported. probably too late for you, but there have at least been requests for rw to fix that. - Christina Pikas
I've given up on RefWorks fixing anything. *grumpity grump* - maʀtha
I just had to break it to another librarian that RefGrabIt is basically a waste of disk space. - DJF
Oh, absolutely! I've been telling people not to use RefGrab-It for years. - maʀtha
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"658.8 – Practical Marketing for Public Libraries" [tweets via @658point8] // new blog - check. it.out.
Communication & Higher Education: Life on the Tenure Track at a Teaching Institution: Instructors talking about technology research: Participants needed! -
We are conducting a study looking at how instructors talk about technology and its use in their classroom syllabus. If you are currently teaching a class that talks about technology in your syllabus (i.e., you have a laptop and/or cell phone policy, discuss how blogs or wikis will be utilized in the classroom), and would be willing to share your syllabus with us, and fill out a quick survey (under 10 minutes) about your teaching experiences, your participation would be greatly appreciated. The results of this study may help researchers and instructors better understand technology policies. We will accept syllabus submissions through October 31, 2011. - Caitlin from Bookmarklet
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okay....adobe digital editions allows 6 devices at one time to be authorized with one adobe id, right? so if i deauthorize a device/computer (so i now only have 5 authorized devices), can i authorize a new computer/device??? i've found conflicting information on a variety of websites.
You should be able to - we've authorized and deauthorized (ctrl-shift-D in Adobe Digital Editions) and reauthorized public computers here more than six times. - Melissa M
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've seen consistency problems with this and, when I called adobe about it, they told me to just make a new account. Or rather, the people there said something along the lines of "it's free so we aren't going to help you, so just make a new id." - Katy S
yes making a new id is an option....also, on adobe site they say, "You can activate up to six computers or devices . If you reach the limit, contact Customer Service to reset your activations." - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
yes, i am aware that an ADE account on a computer can be deauthorized with ctrl-shift-d (or ctrl-shift-e to deauthorize a NOOK); i'm just finding conflicting information re: if i deauthorize one device, whether i that frees up a space on my allotment of 6 devices.....maybe i'll put it to test tonight while at work.... - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
I'm not familiar with ADE specifically, but I can't imagine what else deauthorization would be for, if not to free up one of your six "slots." - Jason P
you'd be surprised, jason!!! i've read it just frees up that specific computer, so someone else can authorize it to use it (e.g., your s.o. wants to download an eBook) p.s. it should be so much freakin' easier.... - αnnα vαȵ scoyoç
Right. I tried to contact them to reset to free up for another device and that was when I received the really bad customer service and was told that they wouldn't help me. - Katy S
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Adventures in Library Instruction: Episode 33: Love the Cataloger; Hate the Catalog [podcast] -
БИБЛИОПЧЕЛКА: Идем по кругу? Или знакомство с Google+ -
Полеты по Волгоградской области или культурная программа
Yvonne M
My friend's been accepted into a UK grad LIS program. Was told by them that help's also available @ US Dept Ed via Direct Loan funding. Any tips?? Website horribly confusing & I don't have much exp. w/ fin aid but would love to help him out. Thanks....
GUT - Arafat Nur
Do you still need help with this? I just saw the post now, but I have experience with Direct Loan funding - Soup in a TARDIS
He said he was able to do it through FAFSA (??), but thanks. - Yvonne M
Yup. FAFSA is the way you do it. Direct Loan is basically the handling service that deals with international payouts and confirmation that international schools are valid and qualify. Hopefully he'll receive the payments directly, although chances are they will go to his school and then to him. If he ends up in the latter situation I suggest you buy him a stress ball and advocate patience. - Soup in a TARDIS
Katy S
Schools Eliminating Librarians as Budgets Shrink - -
Schools Eliminating Librarians as Budgets Shrink -
"In New York, as in districts across the country, many school officials said they had little choice but to eliminate librarians, having already reduced administrative staff, frozen wages, shed extracurricular activities and trimmed spending on supplies. Technological advances are also changing some officials’ view of librarians: as more classrooms are equipped with laptops, tablets or e-readers, Mr. Polakow-Suransky noted, students can often do research from their desks that previously might have required a library visit. “It’s the way of the future,” he said. Nancy Everhart, president of the American Association of School Librarians, whose membership has fallen to 8,000 from 10,000 in 2006, said that, on the contrary, the Internet age made trained librarians more important, to guide students through the basics of searching and analyzing information they find online." - Katy S from Bookmarklet
I feel bad for the academic librarians who will get these kids in the future. - Andy
I feel bad for the kids themselves - Katy S
Librarians were on the initial cut list for our school district. Thankfully the board realized that it is an essential position. - Elena
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YALSA » ALA, OIF and YALSA Joint Response to the Meghan Cox article -
"ALA sent a letter to WSJ on 6/10 in response to the Meghan Cox Gurdon article. The letter was a joint response from ALA, OIF and YALSA. However, it now appears that the Wall St. Journal isn’t going to publish ALA’s response to the YA lit article so I wanted to make sure and share it with all of you just so you could be aware that it was sent and so that it was available to use as a jumping off point if anyone needs it as they conduct interviews or answer questions that may continue to arise." - Katy S from Bookmarklet
And, to be sure, there's Dan SafeLibraries pounding, pounding, pounding away at That Evil ALA. Good letter (the ALA/OIF/YALSA one, that is, not the asinine comment from SafeLibraries). Not surprising that WSJ won't touch it. - Walt Crawford
yeah, he's been on this. WSJ did publish Sherman Alexie's excellent essay in response to the original piece, so I'm pleased about that. - Katy S
Dan miss a chance to spam a link? NO WAY - Andy
Ruth Kneale
If you're within the interset of librarians and FFers, please say hi & where you're from! (PS: thank you!)
Kicking off, hi from Tucson Arizona. - Ruth Kneale
Hi from Christchurch, New Zealand! - Deborah Fitchett
Hello from Sheffield, England :) - Pete
Hi from Western Australia - Kathryn is a free elf
Hi from Atlanta, GA - ellbeecee
Hi from Laurel, MD - Christina Pikas
Hallo from Helen (an endangered school librarian) from Sheffield, UK - wensleydalelass
Hi from Odenton, MD - Alan
Howdy from Montreal, Quebec. - Megan loves summer
Greetings from Macon, GA - Sir Shuping is just sir
Hello from La Crosse, Wisconsin - Galadriel C.
Hi from South Bend, Indiana - Catherine Pellegrino
Howdy from Oklahoma City! - Kirsten
wünscht Ihnen guten Morgen aus Shippensburg, Pennsylvania - Aaron the Librarian
Hi from Chattanooga, TN! - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Hey dude, from southern CA - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Twin Cities are where its at! (MN) - maʀtha
Hello from Maryville, MO! - Kathy
Hi from Toronto, Ontario - John Dupuis
Hi from Livermore, California, as a somewhat-retired "library person" but non-librarian. - Walt Crawford
Hi from New York, New York. - Stephen Francoeur
Hi From Belcamp, MD. (NE MD) - ♫Maurice the Trainer♫
Hello from Pullman, WA! - Lorena O'English
Hola from Berkeley, CA! - kendrak
*pictures Ruth putting pins on a map* - maʀtha
hello from Vancouver, WA! - holly #ravingfangirl
hello from lovely and historic Bordentown NJ, settled in 1682. - Andy
Greetings from Niagara Falls. - Blake
Hello from Quebec city! - Dominique Papin
Hi from Chicago, IL - Hedgehog
Y'all are great! Thank you! - Ruth Kneale
Library student waving hello from New Orleans. - Derrick
Hello from Lincoln, NE! - Christa
Hi from Dunn, NC ;) - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Mary Beth from Rochester, MN - Mary Beth Sancomb Moran
Tyler, TX - Angel R. Rivera
Yo from Iowa City/Coralville, Iowa! - laura x
Hi from a circulation desk in Colorado Springs, CO. - Marianne
Hello from south-central Minnesota (and my living room couch at the moment) - barbara fister
Ahoy hoy from Chattanooga, Tenn. - Wilk
You all are awesome and have helped me a lot - thanks so much! - Ruth Kneale
Joe, from Denver... Well Littleton, not the town of Littleton, an area of unicorporated Jefferson County that is called Littleton according to the post office. - Joe from iPod
Hey! from La Crosse, WI - Jen from BuddyFeed
Hello from New Orleans (but still a Minnesota girl at heart)! - Caitlin from Android
Katy S
Archivist Job in Stamford 06902, Connecticut US -
Archivist Job in Stamford 06902, Connecticut US
"WWE Archivist How would you like to work at a company where the primary objective is to put smiles on people’s faces all around the word? If you enjoy working with others in a dynamic, fast-paced environment where you are encouraged to be creative and entrepreneurial, then maybe it’s time you learn more about WWE! WWE is an integrated media organization and recognized leader in global entertainment. The company consists of a portfolio of businesses that create and deliver original content 52 weeks a year to a global audience. WWE is committed to family-friendly, PG content across all of its platforms including television programming, pay-per-view, digital media and publishing. WWE programming is broadcast in more than 145 countries and 30 languages and reaches more than 500 million homes worldwide. Headquartered in Stamford, Connecticut, with offices in New York, Los Angeles, London, Shanghai, Tokyo and Singapore, the company is listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol WWE." - Katy S from Bookmarklet
This would be an awesome job. - Katy S
I bet they keep double sets. It'd be like being a mob archivist. (Why does this make the job more appealing to me rather than less?) - Marianne
I would not call their content "family-friendly, PG content." Having said that, I think having this on your resume would still be awesome. If I had the archivist specialization, I'd apply. - Angel R. Rivera
I almost wish I was an archivist so that I'd be qualified for this job. - Katy S
Judging by what is in PG13 movies these days, I'd say it is the new PG. - Andy
I am _perfect_ for this job. I'm willing to bet that I'm the only librarian that's been featured on an officially licensed WWE product. - Jason Griffey
No Steve, the archives are all "scripted." It's only fake if it pretends to be real and I don't think WWE has pretended to be real for a while now. - John Dupuis
Also, I believe Griffey is more into folksonomies than taxonomies. - Catherine Pellegrino
well, yeah. :) Ohhhh, can I be TENTACLES OF INFLUENCE? or is that more Lovecraftian than WWE? - Catherine Pellegrino
Can I revise that to KILLER KATY NUCMUC - Katy S
I seem to remember WWF (back before a certain conservation organization got grouchy) specifically labeled itself as entertainment--to avoid all the regulations and overhead that would go with being a professional sport. Not that it ever was anything but scripted. - Walt Crawford
Heck, it gets weirder. Linda McMahon, WWE ex-ceo and sometimes wrestler, is/was a serious political candidate, for Senate in Connecticut at least. She couldn't pull a stranglehold on her Democratic opponent, though. - Walt Crawford
I should perhaps clarify that I have never wasted time on WWE* shows and choose to refrain from asserting which of Rowdy Roddy Piper and The Rock is/was a better dramatic actor. *Yes, there's a monster-truck size hole in that assertion. Two, actually, "wasted" being the other one. - Walt Crawford
Can I die or get fired or something and come back with a better name and a different costume? Maybe Stone Cold Steve Lawson? Or is that one already taken? - John Dupuis
Also, I always thought that back in the day the two WWFs should have merged instead of fighting it out in the courts. Just imagine? All the wrestlers could have been named for endangered species or after environmental threats. We could have The Killer Whales as a tag team and The Deep Water Horizon Blowout as an up and coming star. - John Dupuis
(Also, I refuse to divulge how much time I may or may not have wasted on WWE programming on the grounds that it may incriminate me.) - John Dupuis
Well, I spent significantly more than zero time on WWF programming, but eventually found other ways to waste time and found WWE wrestling increasingly irritating. Times change, people change, even heels change. - Walt Crawford
I think it's better to die as a heel, wait a year and then make a triumphant return as a face, only to betray my closest friend shortly thereafter and turn heel again. - John Dupuis
"Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!" - DJF
Back in my mis-spent youth, I actually did pro style wrestling in something that was just above a backyard league. That's when, and where, I started using the name Great Western Dragon. Never planned to go pro, but it was fun and I gotta admit, it was also pretty damn awesome when Amuro Namie's "Let's Do the Motion" (my entrance music) kicked on and the "fight" started. On the other hand, that's also what effed up my back. - Dan: Bibrarian
Now that you mention it... let me dig around. I *know* I have an old pic of me wearing my mask and shirtless and all that silly shit. But gawd... I'd have to find it. EDIT: Crap it's not on any of my online services, so it's probably on a back up DVD at home. I still have the mask and it's on my desk here at work if ya wanna see that. :) - Dan: Bibrarian
Katy S
Why libraries still matter - Laura Miller - -
Why libraries still matter - Laura Miller -
Part of me wishes that if the focus had to be on the museum-like qualities libraries can have, that she could have also discussed the way small community libraries can be repositories of community history. While the big libraries are interesting, this is so remote from most people's public library experience that I wonder if they would identify with it. - Katy S
On the other hand, I'm happy to see a pro-library piece written by someone who doesn't work at a library. - Katy S
The title doesn't match the body of the article, in a way. - Andy
Katy S
Md. firm to take over 3 Calif. libraries as debate grows over privatization - The Washington Post -
"A Germantown firm is slated to assume management of the three public libraries in Santa Clarita, Calif., in July, a move that has ignited a passionate debate over whether some municipal functions should be off limits to for-profit operators. Opponents of the deal call public libraries, like fire or police protection, the epitome of local government service. And even in these shaky financial times, they shudder at the idea of libraries being run by a firm looking to make money. “Nobody was complaining about the libraries here. Nobody,” said Lynne Plambeck, a Santa Clarita resident who opposes the contract with Maryland-based Library Systems and Services. “I don’t know why they are doing this. I worry about a private corporation having control over our libraries.”" - Katy S from Bookmarklet
Anyone in California have more info about this? - Katy S
Anyone? - Katy S
This isn't a particularly new story, except that it's in the mainstream press. I'm pretty sure either LJ or American Libraries (or both) has covered it. LSSI's been doing this for years, with mixed success. - Walt Crawford
Yep. If you search "Santa Clarita" at LJ, you'll see a bunch of stories over the past few months. Santa Clarita wanted to separate its libraries from the LA County system and signed a big-bucks contract with LSSI to operate the three branches. There's been a lawsuit, but it apparently failed. Only "new" to the Post. - Walt Crawford
I must have missed it, too, although I haven't read American Libraries in ages and I don't catch everything at LJ. I did go to LSSI's website and I see that this is mostly happening in California, Tennessee, and Texas, so that could explain why I've missed it, too. - Katy S
So, what do you think about it? - Katy S
I'm not sure who you're asking. Personally, I don't think it's any of my business. Most libraries outsource most cataloging and, increasingly, academic libraries outsource most of what used to be collection development; if a library outsources its administration (or, in this case, the City Council does), who am I to say they can't do that? I may find it unfortunate, but I find lots of things unfortunate. - Walt Crawford
It's pretty much just a way for cities to claim they reduced the public payroll. In California (and elsewhere) our cities are under *huge* pressure from angry taxpayers to get out of the business of paying people and especially giving them any kind of decent benefits. These will become Walmartized libraries with no accountability to the local community, but you know, Walmart is really really popular, so who's to say this is wrong. - Jenny Reiswig
Katy S
California Library Plan: Get Rid of Books, Replace Librarians With Videophones | Motherboard -
California Library Plan: Get Rid of Books, Replace Librarians With Videophones | Motherboard
"Facing the likelihood of state budget cuts that would eliminate $15 million for library and reading programs – and, apparently, a future in which people no longer read things on paper – the city of Newport Beach is considering turning its first library into a community center that would host all the same amenities – except for the books. Reports the LA Times: Instead of a reference librarian, patrons would be greeted by a kiosk equipped with video-calling software that would allow them to speak with employees elsewhere. And books — when ordered — would be dropped off at a locker for pickup… “A lot of people still want to touch a book, hold a book, smell it,” said Cynthia Cowell, library services director for the Newport Beach Public Library. “The sensory experience is still very important to many of us.” [City Manager Dave Kiff] proposed in an email: “Shouldn’t the modern library reflect what people are doing now, instead of reflecting what we might have done 20 or 30 years ago?”" - Katy S from Bookmarklet
Videophones! That would be so awesome! - Meg VMeg
In this context, it sounds like they're being used to cut job positions. - Katy S
My first thought was "oh look, technology that will regularly fail, leaving what librarians remain NO way to reach/assist patrons..." Apparently I am optimistic this a.m. - Hedgehog
All I can say really is: Uh. - Derrick
I talked about this a bit at LJ last week - "The story that news organizations were covering this week is yet another plan to replace a public library branch with a bookless unstaffed space where people can pick up a Wi Fi signal and requested books will be delivered and stored in lockers ...'By eliminating books and librarians at the building,' one news report stated, city officials... more... - barbara fister
I also wondered how this would serve patrons who are not tech-savvy. I can imagine that they have plenty of patrons who would be befuddled by the videophone and that this would discourage them from using the library. - Katy S
Basically they are downgrading the library to a station and shifting the work to one of the other branches. I dont know if this is being done to save the other three branches in the system, so I'm withholding judgment on it. - Andy
Andy - if that's what they're doing, they should just say that. - Katy S
They want to save money but still have a public space. The videophone is just silly, frankly. Bring your own laptop, but if you want to talk to a librarian we'll have some crazy setup to pretend we're providing a service. - barbara fister
I'd rather have even just one librarian there in person than 10 available via videophone. - Rachel Walden
The article in the LA Times was rather obnoxious about it. That's the one I linked to in my blog. (I think it was the LA Times.) It made it seem like they were storing scrolls or parchment or something and this would be an upgrade. It certainly is a dilution of the library as a place, morphing it into an community center as its main purpose. - Andy
slight edit @ LAT: [City Manager Dave Kiff] should be using the modern library rather than base decisions on what people are not doing in them now.” - barbara fister
They should use Max Headroom as the avatar - maʀtha
+++marthalib (or "mmmmarthmarthamarthalib") - barbara fister
Joan, this is like the parents trying trick their kids into a cheaper closer vacation: "Hey kids, remember how we said we are going to Disney this summer?" "YEAH!" "Well, /instead/, we got an even better idea! We are going to go to SIX FLAGS GREAT ADVENTURE! COOL RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE SOOOOO COOOOOOL!!!" - Andy
There are some librarians I would like to replace with videophones. Why the hubbub? - Jenny Reiswig
I don't know...if you wanted something at Macy's or Ikea, would you be willing to go into a pretty place with not much in it, queue up to talk to someone online, and settle for browsing for your furniture online as well. I mean...there *would* be meatballs. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Rochelle, you just described the UK's Argos! - kendrak
With meatballs?! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
No. :( - kendrak
David Rothman (☤)
Libraryfolk: How cool is it that, not knowing where to find something, my friend Annabel thought "I should ask a librarian!" Any other suggestions for her on timeline-making tools? Her main computer is a Mac, so that would be most ideal- but web-based is good, too.
No other ideas, though? - David Rothman (☤)
Have a tweet in to a writer friend. I can't remember what she uses. - Hedgehog
I'm a troglodyte - I use a spreadsheet. - barbara fister
i was going to suggest something like memolane, but that's not what she's looking for. let me check my delicious acct - ~Courtney F
No info on this but it looks interesting - - barbara fister
Thanks, guys! Passed those on. :) - David Rothman (☤)
@Barbara, I'd totally use a spreadsheet, too. :) - David Rothman (☤)
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