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Shall I schedule a half dozen meetings for you? Then you just get to squeeze in one or two things :)
- Hedgehog
:) you're a pal
- maʀtha
I can help you out there. LearnRT events are all you need to attend. QED.
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
And LearnRT is partnering with LITA for five programs, so we'll need you at those as well
- Hedgehog
There are at least four things I want to attend in most of the major timeslots. Problematic.
- Jenica
Council makes it even more fun :) There are at least four things I want to attend that take place during every Council meeting.
- ~Courtney F
not helping :)
- maʀtha
Remember: no matter how interesting the panel or program sounds, the only thing that really matters is which sub-sub-group scheduled and organized it.
- Steele Lawman
Snarky me says Steele nailed it... But in practice it can be kind of true. In some sub-sub groups the style is to read a written paper, in others more interactive (or at least interest-holding) styles are the norm
- awd
from Android
that feeling you get when there were four good choices, you made one, and you keep thinking "I should have gone to one of the other ones"....Though honestly, I just went to two conferences and either got very lucky or librarians are doing a lot better at presenting than a few years ago.
- barbara fister
Barbara, that feeling accounts for approximately two-thirds of my conferencegoing experience. (Especially at LOEXen.) My variant of the Steve Principle is to choose based on who's presenting, not based on the topic.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I'm not sure I'm understanding Yahoo's reasoning in trying to get me to switch from paid account to a free one.
Victor Ganata, Kevin Johnson, Jennifer Dittrich and 2 other people liked this
I just saw that email. Has there been a privacy change or something?
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Well, given that the email was emphasizing an 'ad free' pro experience, I have some concerns.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I would guess it's more targeted at those why may have paid for pro mostly because the old free acct didn't give enough space. But now w/a terabyte for free that may no longer be a concern. Unless you really want stats. And no ads.
- ronin
It seems the opposite, the free accounts will have larger file size limits than the pro accounts. (http://friendfeed.com/cgrymal...). I'm not understanding the reasoning behind that (not that that matters to Yahoo).
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
it looks like the pro account cost is going up, too...from 24.95 to 49.99
- ~Courtney F
For people going to ALA, where are you staying?
Hilton
- maʀtha
LOL, Hedge!
- Uli - Sent to Coventry
Used Air BnB to get a place. eta: Staying in somewhere in Printers Row.
- Running Slow
crowne plaza? I think? I remember it's #4 on he map
- ellbeecee
I've booked a room at the Hilton (which I typed Jilton initially)
- John: Thread Killer
Hilton, I think
- ~Courtney F
I'm still waiting to hear if I can go on Friday. There's a program I'm very interested in. If I go, Ill be taking the train in.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
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across from the art institute. congress plaza @ grant park.
- Marianne
Chinatown Inn (some specific name, but I forget) about 5 blocks west of McC Ctr
- awd
Daytrippin' via the South Shore Line.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Blu
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
the burnham on 1 w washington. need a roommate, btw...
- henry
hey, we get to meet henry!
- maʀtha
Also staying at the Hilton.
- Laura Krier
In spirit, at the Hilton (despite a $20 incident last time around). In flesh, not going.
- Walt Crawford
cheesecakes in a jar: the neat way to eat a handful of cheesecake: Blog | King Arthur Flour - http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog...
Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart, Tamara J., Pixie and 15 other people liked this
OMG!
- Katy S
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I would want a better crust ratio, though, I think....
- ~Courtney F
I would actually eat this cheesecake since there's hardly any crust. That's my least favorite part.
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
I would want quart jars.
- Greg GuitarBuster
Your gonna need a bigger crock pot.
- Katy S
^^^ Always.
- Greg GuitarBuster
Uh oh. Mom is talking to head gardener next door. Dad has been trying all day to get her attention. Now he's mowing the law. He's sort of claimed her as his friend. (Even though he's now also buddies with Manuel at the garden center who gave him some red aparagus from his garden this morning.) Will he let this aggression stand?
Jennifer Dittrich, Micah, John (bird whisperer) and Sir Shuping is just sir liked this
They have their backs to my house and are looking at the rich neighbor's. Mom is pumping for information, I can tell.
- Sarah G.
you might be on to something with that CIA chatty old people spy thing....
- ~Courtney F
I added smoked paprika to the cioppino broth tonight. Good idea or bad idea? Results coming in a couple hours!
Jennifer Dittrich and Meg V. Meg liked this
Well?
- ~Courtney F
Smoked paprika is always a good idea!
- Heleninstitches
It smelled like too much at first but it turned out okay. Gave the broth a nice earthy flavor. Will do again.
- Marie
New App Lets You Boycott Koch Brothers, Monsanto And More By Scanning Your Shopping Cart http://www.forbes.com/sites...
Heather, Me and t-ra: not givin up liked this
In the end it will be the poor worker suffering. :(
- Janet:#TeamMonique
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I'm a little annoyed :( there is no Buycott app in the Google Play store
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
apparently it was more popular than they expected and they had to pull the Android app....sounds like they want it to go back soon, though.
- ~Courtney F
Sometimes?
- RepoRat
I often drop shadows, but only when I'm carrying a bunch of other stuff and need to reach into my pockets to get my keys.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I'm with RR - it depends.
- ~Courtney F
If it adds to readability, yes.
- Andy
Apple Keynote only offers drop shadows for text. It's not always the choice I would prefer -- for some typefaces, outlining works better -- but I use it liberally nonetheless for Andy's reason. Especially on the photographic backgrounds I like to use in presentations, text often needs some extra oomph.
- RepoRat
No. Use a better typeface.
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
Sure, go crazy.
- Steele Lawman
I lean towards no. When I see them used, I always think there's something wrong with my eyes
- Megan loves summer
For text, for the reasons mentioned by RepoRat.
- Royce's favorite Anna
Very very very small drop shadows, if the overall design would benefit from a 3D-ish element to convey its message.
- ɥsıuɐʎɹ
I'm OK with them if used minimally. Relatedly, here's an interesting post about flat design on the web. http://uxmag.com/article...
- Stephen le Francoeur
I sometimes think that I don't like drop shadows, then I look at the windows I currently have open, and see how easy it is to determine that my browser window is "on top of" my chat window because it casts a shadow on the chat window. Used with taste and subtlety, I think that shadows are very effective.
- Steele Lawman
one of the most unfortunate typos out there is "balling" when they really mean "bawling".
Janet:#TeamMonique, Kirsten, Scoble, Alex Scoble and 13 other people liked this
and it's always in situations where i know i should feel bad for giggling. ALWAYS. and yet...
- holly #ravingfangirl
yeah.
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
It's almost as bad as the people who can't spell 'cologne'.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
oh dear. yes, that one is not so good either.
- holly #ravingfangirl
I know pro bawlers, btw.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
I'm more disturbed by "mommy" for "mami"
- ~Courtney F
WHY AM I SO WARM?!?!?!?
http://www.oactivista.com, Kirsten, Bubba was a rollin stone and 2 other people liked this
because you have a bun in the oven? ;)
- ~Courtney F
Liking for Courtney's response.
- Zamms
It's freezing outside and there are frost warnings tonight. WHAT DID YOU DO, BUNNEH?!
Kelli H., Stephan Planken, Steven Perez and 3 other people liked this
WASN'T ME. I JUST BOUGHT TWO NEW PAIRS OF RUNNING SHORTS.
- Steven Perez
Here too. Sob.
- lris
I'm glad I'm in Massachusetts where it's warm.
- Bruce Lewis
from Android
The sun is shining brightly now, so we've climbed to a balmy 32 degrees. But BRRR!
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
from Android
here too, and I just planted things!
- ~Courtney F
Veggie Garden | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
rowlikeagirl, Katy S, Bren and 2 other people liked this
i like how the pushpins look like two eyes. o_________o
- holly #ravingfangirl
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i am planning to add some basil, maybe something else in the back if it strikes my fancy.
- holly #ravingfangirl
Cool! Let me know how the standing bed works out
- ~Courtney F
We have entered the world of maternity clothing.
Marissa, Kol Tregaskes, Headless Gnad Kicker and 38 other people liked this
Also I am soooo warm and need a haircut.
- Mary Carmen
from iPhone
Cute!
- Laura H.
I agree with Laura! Cute!
- ~Courtney F
You look fabulous!
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Thanks y'all. I am at the point where I can't have any thing across my stomach that is remotely binding. Damn uterus is growing and is sore!
- Mary Carmen
from iPhone
You look great! Hope you're feeling well, too. :)
- Harold Cabezas
The Scientific 7-Minute Workout - NYTimes.com - http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013...
Andrea Beggi, tekNico, Davide in the TARDIS and 30 other people liked this
"Exercise science is a fine and intellectually fascinating thing. But sometimes you just want someone to lay out guidelines for how to put the newest fitness research into practice. An article in the May-June issue of the American College of Sports Medicine’s Health & Fitness Journal does just that. In 12 exercises deploying only body weight, a chair and a wall, it fulfills the latest mandates for high-intensity effort, which essentially combines a long run and a visit to the weight room into about seven minutes of steady discomfort — all of it based on science."
- holly #ravingfangirl
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SCIENCE!
- holly #ravingfangirl
heh. "seven minutes of steady discomfort"
- ~Courtney F
I'll have to try this. Eventually.
- c.a.j.
Just tried this tonight (modified a little, since the rotated push up and the side plank give my back trouble at this weight.) EVERYTHING HURTS. In a good way? *ouch*
- Jennifer Dittrich
i'm going to try it tonight :)
- holly #ravingfangirl
I think I'm going to start doing this when I get home from work. I almost never have time to do the full gym thing, and I can get the cardio from walking on my lunch hour. It seems like an easier habit to get into.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Interesting. I hate most of those exercises.
- Royce's favorite Anna
*slumps* *sweats* *pants*
- holly #ravingfangirl
did I really need to dream about ebooks? GAH. ಠ_ಠ
Jaclyn aka spamgirl, Kelli H., Bren and 6 other people liked this
Did I really need to dream about my ex-grilfriend?
- Friar Ticket to Ride
bleh, will. that's even worse. :(
- holly #ravingfangirl
Well, it could have been worse. I could have dreamed about my ex-wife. :^)
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Dreams are so very weird at times. Makes you wonder what the hell your mind is working through.
- Friar Ticket to Ride
srsly.
- holly #ravingfangirl
from iPhone
my mom has been dreaming about me acting out (doing drugs, hanging out with vampires) because she doesn't spend enough time with me.
- ~Courtney F
I dreamed about a meeting discussing which statistics we should gather for the annual report. I was arguing passionately that the number of library staff was of no interest and we should instead be telling stories about the awesome things those staff have done for our users. --I guess it beats the old anxiety dreams about trying to get students to leave at closing time.
- Deborah Fitchett
Yvonne, Running Slow, maʀtha and 5 other people liked this
yup. the students go nuts for'em.
- jambina
Staff just bring in their own dogs.
- Steele Lawman
not a good idea. you want dogs that are certified therapy dogs and, especially, handlers who have undergone training. not that you asked me, of course.
- maʀtha
I tend to agree, Martha. And I objected when we advertised as "therapy dogs," since they obviously ARE NOT. I think we now have a more realistic "meet our pets" come-on. And I have let people know how I feel, and now they can do it however they want.
- Steele Lawman
I'm happy about this both because I think students will love it and because it's a public library-academic library partnership of sorts. Glad to hear jambina's students are into it!
- kaijsa
Just bringing up liability and safety issues, which are important. :) You all know I'm all for anything having to do with dogs
- maʀtha
we do it for finals week in the spring, and the students love it. They ask where the therapy dogs are when they aren't around for winter finals week
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
we're heading into our fourth time doing it. Students LOVE it. (we have trained therapy dogs). See my blog post about the one in December: http://parklibrary.jomc.unc.edu/content... (links to article about larger Univ. Library event too)
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Thanks for the blog post!
- kaijsa
We were just on the local news for our event! Students love it and we have trained volunteer therapy dogs. I can put you in touch with our librarian who coordinates it if you want
- ~Courtney F
That's okay. I'm not in charge of this in any shape or form, which is awesome.
- kaijsa
Love this.
- Yvonne
courtney, I'd love to see that article. Therapy dogs are teh awesomesauceness.
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Yes, theraphy dogs come every day of finals week. They are very popular, and some of the dogs have such a following that when the schedule for the dogs are posted, there's quite a crowd around huddled around the poster.
- Galadriel C.
So fabulous.
- Marie
Here's the video - http://tinyurl.com/c5c3now
- ~Courtney F
popsicles too?! what fun!
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Turns out MPOW has therapy...rabbits? I think? We just got an all-campus email about "come hold a rabbit to relax" that was rather short on details but heavy on the cute graphics.
- Catherine Pellegrino
What is your primary personal computer? That is, the computer you use the most outside of work, not owned by your employer
Sir Shuping is just sir and LB: #TeamMonique liked this
13" MacBook Pro.
- RepoRat
I've been limping along with an iPad and a keyboard and it is getting old. Before that, I had a netbook.
- maʀtha
HP TouchSmart tx2. I wouldn't recommend it.
- John (bird whisperer)
Since my lovely Dell died, I am using HP laptop. Don't remember model. Like it okay. Miss my Dell. Got a refurb Dell, but I need to add a bunch to it before it could be primary, and screen brightness is not good. I also have iPad, but use it only for some things.
- Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
thinkpad x220 12"
- kendrak
My iPhone.
- laura x
These days, it's my iPad. But soon to be a Macbook Air.
- Running Slow
are you getting an 11" or 13" Air?
- maʀtha
Asus Netbook - going on 3 years!
- Lily
13" Mac book pro
- Mary Carmen
from iPhone
A 5-year-old Gateway notebook, Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz CPU. But mostly the 8-year-old Sony 19" LCD display and even older Microsoft wireless Natural keyboard and mouse, since the Gateway mostly sits off to the right as a secondary screen.
- Walt Crawford
in order: mac book pro 15" (6 mos old), iMac 27" (2010 model?), gateway i5 windows laptop 15", ... mbp goes with me everywhere. also have ipad 2, kindle fire, samsung note, which all get used in specific situations.
- henry
MacBook Pro and iPad
- ~Courtney F
HP Pavilion
- Greg GuitarBuster
MacBook (not Pro) (13-inch Early 2008) (my sister's, then my nephew's, now mine), hooked up to my old desktop's 15" flat planel monitor. I got it when the desktop could no longer be updated because it's not an Intel box.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
13" Air.
- kaijsa
13" Mac book pro
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
Samsung netbook.
- LB: #TeamMonique
I've been using an Asus netbook for the last 2-3 years. Just got a hand-me-down Toshiba laptop that feels like the Enterprise computer by comparison.
- Jason P
tossup between iPad and netbook. This summer I;ll be spending quality time with the good old Dell PC though
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I probably use the iPad more often than any other computer outside of work, though.
- Jason P
Asus K73E laptop.
- Julian
iPhone; Toshiba Protege Ultrabook
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
from BuddyFeed
11.1 inch hp pavilion dm1z (the first issue of that model, so it's... almost 3 years old). I hug it and squeeze it and call it buttercup (and it's survived several droppings and at least 2 steppings-on). My 2ndary is Jay's primary, an hp demo model desktop from costco that's about 6 years old.
- Marianne
Metro PCS phone
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
15" MacBook Pro. And an iPod Touch.
- Catherine Pellegrino
from iPod
um... I have a 2003 (I think, maybe 2002) Dell... but I haven't used it in ~3 years? (I use my work (2010 lenovo) lappie at home and my work workstation (2012 dell) at work) but my Samsung Note II is what I use when I'm not on work-machines [eta: the kids use the 2003 dell as their primary, tho miss16 now tends to focus on her iPod]
- awd
a dell something?
- ellbeecee
13". Considered a pro, but my iMac is still going strong.
- Running Slow
27" iMac
- Soup in a TARDIS
11 in MBA ...
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
I've got a 15" Lenovo laptop I got a good deal on last November. (Though I probably use my iPad more for non-work tasks.)
- Laura H.
Motorola Razr lol. Little Toshiba netbook for editing etc...
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
Justin's desktop, which he built, so it doesn't have brand specs. Runs windows 7. (I use my work laptop for everything; 13" 2011 MacBook Pro)
- Jenica
A 3.6 Ghz gaming rig I got from iBUYPOWER with a 27" monitor. And the new Chromebook. My fiancee has my iPad these days.
- Andy
Lenovo Ideapad 15.6" laptop
- holly #ravingfangirl
i have a MINI full of potting soil. we're planting veggies, people. er, not *in* the MINI though.
Kristin, Lnorigb, Kelli H. and 8 other people liked this
Mobile MINI garden!
- ~Courtney F
from Android
A senior from the college I went to contacted me to talk about library school and career advice. Aside from Lauren Pressley's book, So You Want to Be a Librarian, I'd like to recommend some things to read. Didn't some of you CodFolk write blog posts about what to expect in library school?
Yo Joe. No, go slow. liked this
what about the day in the life project? http://librarydayinthelife.pbworks.com/
- ellbeecee
Oh yeah, this was a good one. http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013...
- Stephen le Francoeur
http://archive.org/details... ...or maybe not. Seriously, are they interested in any particular aspect? I suspect we could turn up a few people willing to answer, "What's it like being a (fill in the blank) librarian?"
- Rebecca Hedreen
and there's also the Day in the Life project...
- ~Courtney F
This may or may not be useful - made for my "Introduction to Librarianship" unit - "What is a library? What do librarians do? " http://www.youtube.com/watch... . I point my students toward the day in the life project and hack library school blog. (I have lost the ability to capitalize letters, sorry)
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
I've heard good things about Marilyn Johnson's "This Book is Overdue" as a starter, though I admit it's still on my own reading list.
- Lily
Anyone heard anything about DSM-V being available online any time soon? I know it's only available through APA, but their website wasn't helpful...
Vaporware afaik... but they say it's coming
- awd
yeah, I finally found Summer 2013 on psychiatryonline.org
- ~Courtney F
Let me pick your brain: What mobile app features typically get you to upgrade from FREE to PAID version?
Stephan Planken, John (bird whisperer), Bruce Lewis and Stephen Mack #TeamMomo liked this
Free is a trial and I need it
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
i use it all the time and keep hitting the upload limit (Flickr, Evernote)
- ~Courtney F
Not terribly specific, but customization - the ability to customize how I interact with the application.
- Jennifer Dittrich
If there is storage/retrieval of scanned or downloaded items. It really depends on the app, though.
- Anika
Thanks (keep 'em coming) - if it varies by type of app just name a few examples if possible. I'm working out what feature split I'm doing on my to-be-released calculator app.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
porn
- t-ra: not givin up
For a calculator, maybe have scientific on the paid side?
- Jimminy IS Everybody
J, it's fraction-oriented which doesn't try to be a full blown scientific calc. Main features: fraction form input /output, rounding to nearest fraction (1/8, 1/16, etc), imperial + metric conversion display, input mixed units (feet, inches, meters, mm) expressions, calc history, attach note to a calc, search for notes by keyword, send calc by email, copy expression from calc history back to input, identify repeating decimals, display improper fraction form.
- Micah
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Ad removal is a big one for me.
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
No ads in either version.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
Jimminy - since there are so many calculator apps with scientific built in, I'm not sure how effective that would be. However, if it's a graphing calculator, maybe the free version could plot a specific number of points, or perform a specific number of operations at once, and the paid version could have more capability in those areas.
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
A limit to something I really want to do.
- Todd Hoff
Micah, maybe artificially limit history on the free version (as per Courtney's comment), and have notes and send to email only in the paid version.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Variety. For example, I use a bunch of creative apps. I get a basic toolset on some of them and have upgraded to unlock additional tools. Could that work with graph types or number of expressions?
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Good ideas here, appreciate it. I have contemplated a total # of calculations limit, which effectively makes the free version a trial app, but not sure I like the way that feels.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
When I said a limit on number of calculations (or operations), I was more referring to it being able to do something like [(2+4)(3+2)]/7 but not something like [(2+4)(3+2)(7-5)]/(12-3) (limit to the total number of operations in a single problem, etc.). That's still similar to a trial app (feature-limited, though, not time-limited)
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
Oh, interesting, that's one I hadn't thought of, thanks Curtis.
- Micah
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A virtual register tape on the paid version, with the ability to save tapes.
- April Russo
Yep, the virtual tape (I just call it the history entries) is a major part of the interface. I'll think over maybe partially limiting it.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
No, it's not the same. It's a partial history, like a POS transaction. Bonus points if you can find a little cheap wireless roll printer to print out the transactions, individually, and add that ability to the paid version, too. Then all you need when running very small biz is your phone and a mini printer to print the receipts. paypal already has an add-on for accepting credit cards. No need to buy a cash register.
- April Russo
Oh, interesting. The sales transaction use case wasn't on my radar. The app is linear measurement (ft, in, meters) centric, with construction trade in mind. But a printer interface would be pretty cool - I'll have to look into it.
- Micah
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If the game is fun i'll pay for full. Don't usually use mobile for much else.
- SteVe C
I have a desktop calculator that has what I am talking about. screenshot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...
- April Russo
This probably doesn't apply, but I'm more likely to pay for something that works underground or caches/archives whatever online content (i.e., does not require connectivity), since my commute is underground.
- Meg V. Meg
Me to EBSCO support: Did you know "Time" is marked as an "Academic Journal" in your MEDLINE? E: NLM does not distinguish between various source types, so we mark everything as academic. We regret the inconvenience. Me: You regret the inconvenience and will fix, or you regret and won't fix? E: The latter.
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yep
- maʀtha
huh, I didn't know Medline indexed Time.
- Hedgehog
Real slick, EBSCO, real slick.
- Stephen le Francoeur
I don't think they index it consistently, but health-related articles are there. If you have EBSCOhost MEDLINE, do a search for TA "Time" and you'll see results.
- JffKrlsn
Incidentally, the way I discovered this was through a search in EBSCO Discovery Service. Hence my concern. Students who have limited to academic journals in EDS would get results from Time...
- JffKrlsn
to be fair, this is a problem with the MEDLINE/PubMed data that EBSCO receives. MEDLINE doesn't identify peer-reviewed journals. try using the publication types, e.g, clinical trial. that will help loads.
- maʀtha
Those attending the EBSCO lunch at ACRL might find an opportunity to ask this question but with a "when will you be fixing the fact that ..."? Cause a default policy that its academic if we don't know otherwise is probably like of 180 of what faculty want their students to assume....
- Lisa Hinchliffe
I'm more concerned about problems with CINAHL, since EBSCO is the exclusive vendor for CINAHL, by which I mean, put in the damned DOIs. Yes, I've been complaining about this for years. *crawls back into grumpy cave*
- maʀtha
martha, but with EDS, EBSCO could choose to show the record from Academic Search Complete rather than from MEDLINE. Yes, people searching MEDLINE specifically are likely to be able to see that the article is not research, clinical trial etc. I'm concerned about the very helpful, clear "Academic Journal" icon that appears next to the non-academic journal article in EDS.
- JffKrlsn
Basically Ebsco is saying their academic journal limiter is useless. I am seriously grumpy with vendors right now, and this tipped me over the edge!
- kaijsa
(i love love love these kinds of conversations)
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Oh, I know, JffKrisn. Students run into this problem all the time, and it is a problem.
- maʀtha
oh my god
- Meg V. Meg
What? Time isn't scholarly/peer-reviewed?
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
so how should we go about asking them to solve such a thing? would we have a collective power if we all did x?
- Marie
Keep in mind that they are probably reading this thread too :)
- ~Courtney F
Huh. Would one want EBSCO to make their own call about what is/isn't an academic journal? Would one trust EBSCO to make that call? Would it not be preferable to get the NLM to do this properly?
- David Rothman (☤)
EBSCO should be able to do something to remove academic limits from a database if it isn't useful. The EBSCO interface is designed by EBSCO to interact with a commercial database. What limits apply is an interface decision. And since MEDLINE is available through other interfaces *without* this problem, this is a real problem for EBSCO. Why should folks buy EBSCO Medline when it screws badly with the all important Discovery layer?
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
David, this isn't EBSCO making the call, this is asking EBSCO to respond, via indexing, to something that is a stated truth (I would hope they would verify it and not take our word on it). EBSCO isn't deciding what's academic, they make a decision about the search results based on NLM's statement that " NLM does not distinguish between various source types, so we mark everything as academic. "
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Exactly, Rudi. Honestly, isn't indexing the REASON we subscribe to databases in the first place? I'm also furious that MLAIB doesn't have abstracts--in a citation-only database!-- and I wish dbs added that value for searchers. We have most of the full-text, so it's not a huge prob for our users, but still. It's an essential piece of the evaluation process!
- kaijsa
Oy, reply to a different support request late last night (not sure what continent that was coming from!) really has me seething, but it's probably too involved to post here... I've noticed that phone support is usually better than email, but I'm usually hesitant to devote the real-time commitment to it.
- JffKrlsn
They fixed it. Now I'm seeing that a number of academic journals are classified as "periodicals" in MEDLINE, but that bothers me less.
- JffKrlsn
Wow. Good for you.
- maʀtha
Well, an acquaintance.
- Zamms
I mean, we don't even really know each other that well.
- Zamms
Lotus to Exchange.... one evil empire to another back in the *mumble mumble 90s*
- awd
I think my dad's company moved from lotus to exchange recently
- ~Courtney F
Can I ask a dumb question? How is Exchange different from Outlook? (That's two dumb questions.)
- Zamms
We've always used Outlook (the program that shows me my email) here. We have only recently been on an Exchange server (that allows me to use all of the features of Outlook the program). Does that help?
- ~Courtney F
Courtney: Yes. YES IT DOES! (See also: beams of light shining on my head)
- Zamms
Yay! Glad I could help :)
- ~Courtney F
Do any of you at academic libraries create temporary computer accounts for people who don't have credentials through the school? If so, what are you using to create/manage those accounts?
We use Envisionware's PC Reservation to give 90 minute guest passes to unaffiliated users.
- ~Courtney F
Our campus IT department has set up a generic guest account, so we hand out those credentials.
- lris
We had them sign a pledge and then signed them in to a universal public access account
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
Like Iris, our campus IT has set up a guest login with limited access to things like key-server-licensed software, etc., so unaffiliated users use that login.
- Catherine Pellegrino
We have PC res for visitors. There's another option where guest accounts can be created for visiting scholars and such that will expire after a certain period of time. There's also a set of logins (they expire...weekly, I think) for guest users of the microfilm machines.
- ellbeecee
We have open 30 minute computers, no log in required; we have guest log ins that are for other medical professionals or non-uni members (read: law firm) using us; for wireless, our campus IT has a form they can fill out to get a guest log in texted to cell phone--5 days/semester. They must have own cell phone for that.
- Hedgehog
we have an anonymous login that only gets them access to .edu and .gov site - no MS Office; and a guest login where we create an account using a script we wrote to add the user to LDAP
- jönαthaη
Thanks all, our campus IT is shutting down the server we've used to create temp accounts so are scrambling for alternatives.
- kristin buxton
my Plan for Transparency is continuing. our next project begins today: scanning license agreements into PDF, storing them in a pswd protected folder, and linking to the agreements from our resource records. i want our librarians to be able to review our rights/restrictions whenever they want.
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We have kinda done that for some of our licenses, but we don't want to put too many digital signatures out there.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
it's not difficult to cover the signatures when scanning.
- DJF
For the ones that already exist as PDF docs, it would be a real pain to rescan them with the signatures covered up. But, I suppose it could be done.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Only scan the signed page and then use AcrobatPro to swap the pages? (or just remove the sig-page from the "general use" version?
- awd
ooh, I've been wanting to do this for a while. Maybe I'll make it a priority on my summer side project list! I should really talk to IT about pswd protected folders though...no idea how to go about that.
- MontglaneChess
i'm curious about the pswd protected folder - do you guys use shared drives? or are you doing it some other way?
- ~Courtney F
we do use shared drives but i want the data somewhere else, too, so was thinking web server. do you have other ideas? i'm open!
- Marie
we don't have shared drives, so we're trying to figure out our options. Web server would probably work, although you might want to password the files (if you can't do the folder/site)
- ~Courtney F
If I could marry a cookie, it would be @BiscoffCookies.
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those are the ones that delta serves on their flights right?
- Sir Shuping is just sir
have you had the spread? it's tasty, especially with Nutella :)
- ~Courtney F
yes, it's what they serve on delta. i haven't tried the spread but i may treat myself to a jar sometime. :)
- Marie
i need to buy those cookies then. they always help calm my stomach
- Sir Shuping is just sir
www.biscoff.com or go to biscoff.com/delta and get cookies and airline miles! I just brought a wrapper home from my trip this weekend, so that's why I know this.
- t-ra: not givin up
They sell them at Kroger, Sir.
- LB: #TeamMonique
from Android
t-ra and lb thanks!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm SPECIAL. Would it be pointless to not renew my membership to a professional LIBRARY organization because they sold my information to spammers? I'd kinda like to rejoin but the amount of spam and junk mail I get because this ASSOCIATION sold me out makes me angry. Would it make any difference if I told them I'm out because of this?
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What makes it worse is they screwed up my details and I'm out there as CIO or CTO or something really important where I work but I'm really just a librarian, so all the spam and mail are not at all library related.
- Blake
well, you know that "special" is just code for "corporate". And those corp-ists would sell their mother's contact info.
- DJF
It might, if word reached the right people (ie, the governing board) they should have some kind of opt in or out for that sort of thing anyway.
- ~Courtney F
definitely tell them. all of that is something they have the power to fix. now, you don't know if they will fix it, depends on how much they made selling your info. they need to decide which is more important to them - making money or their members.
- Christa
it might also be illegal for them to do so under the american anti-spam rules.
- DJF
I thought there was an opt out?
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
I cannot imagine what library organization you are talking about, Blake.
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
Didn't we just talk about this with regard to Another Professional Organization last week? http://friendfeed.com/lsw...
- Catherine Pellegrino
a few years ago they sent malware so the official directory listing for me is at hotmail although i'm on all the lists at mpow's e-mail
- Christina Pikas
A thought just occurred to me, I don't know for sure they *sold* me out, I do know for sure that I traced it back to them, so maybe they were hacked and didn't know it and so I shouldn't be angry about being sold out. There must be a policy someplace on their website or something I guess.
- Blake
There is something on their membership management page, which should be overhauled in the next few months.
- kendrak
I did not name any names here this could be any association. ANY ONE.
- Blake
Well ONE ASSOCIATION I KNOW LOTS ABOUT is upgrading their membership software RIGHT NOW.
- kendrak
Can't be SLA, because that is the Special Libraries (plural) Association.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
This is why I like having a name that's easily misspelled. Makes it easy to know who to berate.
- Zamms
Someone in the early 80's told me that she always used different middle initials whenever she signed up for stuff, so she'd know who had sold her name.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
I tried the username+sekritword@gmail.com hack for a while, but some places wouldn't let you include the + sign and then I forgot which websites I'd done it with and which not.
- Deborah Fitchett
Marie really needs to stop mentioning queso, unless she's going to make some appear in front of me. #justsayin
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LOL.
- Marie
With guacamole! :)
- Anne Graham
ANNE.
- holly #ravingfangirl
She's right, you know.
- Zamms
guac on the side, right? sometimes i like to mix in spicy sausage crumbles into the queso, along with Rotel.
- Marie
NO GUAC. i use Rotel in mine a lot. the spicy sausage sounds FABU.
- holly #ravingfangirl
oh, man. My father in law makes cheese dip with 1/2 lb spicy sausage and 1/2 lb ground beef, velveeta and rotel. I eat it until I'm sick. Damn you both!
- ~Courtney F
mwahahaha.
- Marie
it's even worse because he only makes it during football season! I have 4 more MONTHS to wait!
- ~Courtney F
Full text of email: "As of August 2013, some changes will be made to Harvard Business Review (HBR) article access for Business Source customers. This change will not affect institutions that have already purchased the expanded rights from Harvard Business Publishing. Further, customers buying a site license will not be impacted. As you are likely aware, full-text licensing agreements with publishers are subject to change in all databases, and EBSCO is committed to providing our customers with as much advance notice as possible on full-text content changes as often as we possibly can. With that said, we would like to inform you that as of August 1, 2013, all databases containing HBR will experience a change for 500 of the articles. These articles will become read-only, and will be clearly marked as such. For example, in Business Source Complete, there are currently 12,824 full-text articles from HBR, and 12,324 will continue to have the existing access functionality. If libraries wish...
more...
- awd
so, are they telling us which 500 articles?
- ellbeecee
I love how they thank me for my understanding when I'm totally confused. Which 500 articles? "Read-only"? "Course rights?"
- Rebecca Hedreen
Yeah. (our internal person just forwarded this to me as well). The "fuck you, HBR" part of me is assuming those 500 are articles they're republishing somehow (like this - http://www.amazon.com/HBRs-Mu... ) and this is a DANGER WILL ROBINSON thing.
- ellbeecee
what Rebecca said. what the heck does this mean??
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
from YouFeed
(or will the 500 articles be a moving target based on what's popular at the time? Will they be the 500 most recent? This isn't telling us *anything* other than "there's changes a-comin'!") #grumpylaura
- ellbeecee
I'm thinking their 500 most popular articles.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
how will this work technically? no links to the direct url? couldn't you reverse engineer a link?
- Christina Pikas
They DO NOT LIKE faculty using their stuffs for electronic reserves. I'm sure they know the most popular articles and they will use magick to prevent us from linking to them without many extra dollars.
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
I'm assuming they mean: no linking, no downloading, no printing (and, by means of blocking those 3 things, no course reserves. unless you pay their special fees.).
- Marianne
So, we will have to scan from the print to put into reserves? Can hbr stop that? Is there language in the print version that says what can and can't be fair use for reserve readings?
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Yeah, if you own the print, that would be completely different. There aren't any licensing terms when you own something--just copyright law. (You really think they'll ban printing? Don't think I've seen that in EBSCO before.)
- JffKrlsn
What Rebecca, Rudi said, "Read only" ???
- aarontay
Instead of a direct permalink, I guess we're to create a search which brings back only the one true result (like we are supposed to do now) ... and enforcement is unrealistic at best. Anyway, they're gonzo imho.
- awd
I read that in a meeting and went "what the hell?" I don't understand how this is enforceable at all.
- ~Courtney F
I love this sentence so much: "As you are likely aware, full-text licensing agreements with publishers are subject to change in all databases, and EBSCO is committed to providing our customers with as much advance notice as possible on full-text content changes as often as we possibly can."
- Meg V. Meg
At a faculty meeting, got asked about ereserves for HBR articles..... immediately thought of this.... Told him will get back to him on this issue after checking with business librarians...
- aarontay
Ereserves for HBR would require special permissions from HBR directly. I'm still waiting for the quote on access to the articles. It is a static list, though
- ~Courtney F
the list of articles is static, courtney? Interesting. That would make me really suspect it's tied to their repackaging articles as books initiatives of late
- ellbeecee
So what's the bottom line here? What's changed exactly? Any further explanation from EBSCOhost about what we can now no longer do on this already restricted journal?
- Stephen le Francoeur
When I read the email a while back, I got the impression the list is of the articles most linked to and downloaded. I wish we'd drop our subscription because the terms of license make the materials next to worthless at a university. DO NOT USE THIS STUFF TO TEACH WITH. Okay, jerks.
- kaijsa
Even if "ereserves" is just a link to ebsco platform from courseware? That's not allowed? I was told the 500 includes popular stuff such as on leadership...
- aarontay
Aaron, the way I read the restriction, yes. Even that would not be allowed.
- ~Courtney F
They have always been weird about links in syllabi and course systems for years. Whether or not it's okay to recommend an HBR article to a student in a hushed whisper is still unclear.
- barbara fister
Yup, LBC, I confirmed twice that it's a static list (I was kind of surprised). Stephen, according to the quote I got, the "extended rights" would "include the ability to print, save to a folder and include PDF’s of these articles in course work". I'm not sure who they think will be able to afford this, because I can assure you, the quote I received is well out of our reach.
- ~Courtney F
sigh. Apparently our Acq dep't read the EBSCO letter, verified that we don't have the extended rights, and left it at that. Why does it take ME to push them towards finding out what the language means, and which titles are effected, and that we need to know which of the titles are heavily used here and which spend much time on course reserves???Those are pretty obvious questions right? I'm not some kind of savant, right?
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Rudy, the ebsco license for HBR already disallowed reserves, IIRC, and I know they monitored for linking to articles from within a CMS because the business school at a former workplace got hit by that.
- ellbeecee
Hmm. Then what's different now?
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Right now I can save a personal copy, I can print a personal copy, I can email myself a personal copy of all the HBR articles. Come August, 500 of these (apparently a static list) will be unavailable for saving/printing/whatever that personal copy - I can still read the article on screen. At least that's how I'm interpreting the letter.
- ellbeecee
That is a correct interpretation of the letter. No download, no print, not even saving the article to a folder.
- Zamms
On an unrelated note (ahem) that is totally disconnected from the content of the rest of this thread (ahem), I think libraries really need to make sure that students and faculty have mastered screen capture software, as it's essential for all sorts of scholarly work.
- Stephen le Francoeur
^^^ hee hee hee hee hee
- Catherine Pellegrino
I agree, Stephen, and have had similar thoughts. That's an important skill in the digital world.
- ellbeecee
huh. Yeah. there's gonna need ot be some explaining of that...
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
How long have you gone without recharging your fitbit?
Stephen Mack #TeamMomo liked this
Several days -- I haven't kept track.
- Royce's favorite Anna
A week usually.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
About 50 years now.
- Uli - Sent to Coventry
5 days? I usually plug it in at night, next to my wallet, keys, comb, etc.
- Louis Gray
About a week, I think
- ~Courtney F
Mine doesn't seem to last more than four or five days. Or maybe I just lose track of time.
- Laura Norvig
from iPhone
I've only gone 2 or 3 days. I usually plug it in at bedtime.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
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