"I was only beginning to grasp the Del.icio.us API when the OAuth cliff appeared on my way. OAuth is a good thing, but such additional complexity is quite dissuasive toward novices such as me, so I was disappointed to find that there is no sample code demonstrating basic interaction with Del.icio.us using OAuth. But the it was astonished that I felt when I discovered how little Yahoo has been communicating about this evolution. Since the success of Del.icio.us depends on keeping a critical mass of users and developing an ecosystem of applications around it, I wonder why Yahoo flunked change management so badly."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
The obvious question that immediately sprung to my mind : why not OpenStreetMap... I found it in Waze's FAQ at http://www.waze.com/faq/#17. Here is an excerpt of the answer :"When looking at the OSM licensing terms, we felt that they might limit us from certain business models in the future". In plain language, Waze wants to own the data and benefit from restricting access. So if you...
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- Jean-Marc Liotier
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The obvious question that immediately sprung to my mind : why not OpenStreetMap... I found it in Waze's FAQ at http://www.waze.com/faq/#17. Here is an excerpt of the answer :"When looking at the OSM licensing terms, we felt that they might limit us from certain business models in the future". In plain language, Waze wants to own the data and benefit from restricting access. So if you wish to spend the time and effort to contribute to a mapping project, why not chose one which will let you whatever you want with the data and who will always keep it that way ? OpenStreetMap is like Wikipedia for maps. It creates and provides free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them. The project was started because most maps you think of as free actually have legal or technical restrictions on their use, holding back people from using them in creative, productive, or unexpected ways. If you enjoy mapping, give it a try : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki...
- Jean-Marc Liotier
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"A usually reliable source of information is the ideal credible channel through which to pass the occasional bit of disinformation. My position is always available on Brightkite and Latitude, except that what you are reading there may occasionally be spoofed while I temporarily set it to whatever I want. It is not the panopticon as long as we keep firmly in control of the information we publish."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
Photo hosting and sharing, call for suggestions! Looking for a gather, organize, get stories, comment site/tool that would be easy to use by friends and family to browse and add to. Ideally collaborative tagging and editing
Clearly it must also have some guarantees re: backup and export, so all the work of people adding knowledge and stories to old (and not so old) pictures can't vanish with 30days notice.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Currently have a flickr account but that is too flat, not easy enough to organise, relate pictures. Webshots is the same, although it does offer backup which is a plus, and has a desktop client, and has existed since 1999 or longer which is interesting (have an account since 2000 which means a credit of 15000 picture hosting). Was considering using 72photos, as that was clean and simple, but it seems to be dying, or at least things are breaking and not being fixed. So looking at new options
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
It takes a lot of time to upload images and organize them to test a site, so hoping for feedback from people who have already done it
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
option 1 - a lot of the "printing" focused companies have album features and family-connecting features. I never tried any but if anyone uses one as a co-site i would be interested to hear. Or if you work for one, do suggest it, no fear :)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
option 2 - looking at http://www.expono.com/ looks ambitious. Interesting features are the facetagging, geotagging, organization and relationship options, editing of meta information and it claims sophisticated groups and permissions so perhaps I can let a select group change meta information (no backup/re-download newly tagged photos that I could tell). I have not tried it, this is all based on reading their own blurb.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
option 3 - phanphare http://www.phanfare.com/. Interesting features here are the dropbox (so others can add pictures that belong in a collection), backup, desktop client (although i use and like acdsee)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
option 4 - ipernity http://www.ipernity.com/ they dont describe the features much but just looking at the resulting image blogs it might be quite interesting to organise. It's more like a bloggier flickr, and multi lingual
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
If you prefer self-hosting, Gallery 3 looks like it is going to be a great tool. Gallery 2 suffered the second system effect, but Gallery 3 is the product of a very experienced team loaded with hindsight. The beta 3 has been out last month and it is already very usable. My only gripe against Gallery is that it lacks integration into social networks - but that is nothing that can't be fixed using plugins. http://gallery.menalto.com/gallery...
- Jean-Marc Liotier
I dont need the integration into social networks as much as the building of a small network - I am hoping to build something that makes it easy for people to upload the bits of history they have and perhaps help fill in the blanks for each other
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, I created the exception to your rule: "It takes a lot of time to upload images and organize them to test a site." Just use a few hundred images taken with phones or digital cameras and try out OurDoings. They're organized as soon as you upload them. All you do is click calendar icons then "Edit" to add a story to go with a group of pictures. (They're initially grouped by the day they were taken.) You can know in 20 minutes if it's for you: http://ourdoings.com/
- Bruce Lewis
smugmug is very nice but not what i am looking for in this very particular case: a version where you can let a group of others add bits of information - dates, places etc. on old photos
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
might be a long shot, but have you ever heard of This Moment? http://www.thismoment.com probably not the typical photo site you had in mind at first, but with an interesting concept that would allow your family and friends to easily add photos, videos and text to your moments/stories.
- denise
"API contribute to better interoperability. Open source provides various degrees of freedom to do whatever you want with the software. Those are two orthogonal dimensions. The main result of the widespread availability of web APIs is the commoditization of the software services exposed that way. That is a benefit for the consumer, but a different benefit than those provided by open source."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Do we really have that much control ? Language spreads along cultural influence. Diversity in language provides insight into social history and a wealth of interesting information about patterns of thought. But lowering the barriers to communication may be even more valuable. And anyway – when social groups form, they always form their own language too… So I’m not worried about languages dying and forming : it is the natural ebb and flow of cultures that manifests itself in this way."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Jaakko Rajaniemi: [..] I would assume those devices would contain already GPS which would be used instead. Not perhaps inside a building [..] Of course, a clear view of the sky makes GPS the most practical source unless your application is weapon guidance. The inside building case is what I had in mind, especially as indoors is the new frontier for hand held navigation. I wonder if inertial measurement components will become cheap enough for mass consumption. The spread of PDA and Wiimotes hints that we may have such luck in the coming years."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
<blockquote> I’m concerned that dilution of Google’s admin standards in the federation servers field over the long term will erode Google data security.</blockquote> When you use Gmail, are you concerned by the dilution of Google’s admin standards in SMTP servers ? That is the beauty of federation : each user gets to chose the server whose admin standards he favors – and all get to interoperate !"
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"In Paris, the reference point of the whole French geodesic system (in front of the Notre dame Cathedral) is a common consensual position. Maybe this ancient system also provides a good reference in other cities, which would explain its resurgence in modern mapping applications. I like the idea of probing mental models through the simple device of asking where the center is."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Why all the bad vibes ? As the saying goes, “be strict in what you send and tolerant in what you receive”. I suffer daily people with 30 lines signatures who ignore quoting and use the most horrible Outlook stationery, but I don’t complain and keep sending properly quoted messages in a sober attire. I enjoy plain text because it is the lowest common denominator that works even on the least functional display across the slowest and lossiest link. And plain text makes proper quoting more coherent across multiple users in a thread. But I silently deal with HTML too – most of the time I’m all tooled up to render it painlessly, even in Mutt. Sometimes HTML is painful (horribly slow link or horribly limited display) but such bad conditions are a marginal use-case nowadays. I even admit sending HTML mail occasionally – tables are so much easier in HTML than in ASCII artful ways…"
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Certes c’est une pratique répandue depuis longtemps, mais jusqu’à maintenant j’avais eu la chance d’être client d’ISP qui n’avaient pas encore cédé à la tentation. Si les anglophones habitués de ces questions ont pu suivre ce débat depuis quelques années, le grand public Français est moins au fait – alors cet exposé me paraissait utile, même si la pureté technique d’un service grang public n’a évidemment aucune chance face à une source de revenu…"
- Jean-Marc Liotier
@iphigenie Des négociations étant en cours entre mon employeur et moi au sujet de nos points de vue différents sur l’expression du consommateur lorsqu’il est également employé, j’ai décidé pour apaiser les tensions de retirer de la publication toute mention de SFR... On verra comment ça évolue, mais pour l'instant nos relations sont plutôt tendues à ce sujet - même si mes activités professionnelles n'en sont en rien affectées car elles n'ont rien à voir avec le sujet de mes plaintes.
- Jean-Marc Liotier
J'imagine bien que ce n'est pas evident - de nos jours la tendance est que l'on n'est jamais plus "pas en service" et de plus en plus a vouloir controller tous les aspects jusque dans la sphere semi privee des employes. Une attitude de dinosaure, mais totalement dans la logique du controle de tous les messages autour d'une marque...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Au suject du controle de DNS, sans savoir les details c'est difficile de juger, mais sur le sujet je suis assez partagee: d'un cote en tant qu'utilisatrice au courant je deteste, parcequ'en general soit c'est une faute de frappe et le recherche ne va pas m'aider, soit le site est indisponible et je prefere voire l'erreur en detail. Et aussi je sais que tout cela est lucratif - des...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
"Aucune idée, mais je crois plutôt que je ne suis pas le seul que ça a choqué. Inliner m’a passée ton URL cette après-midi… Il est plus rapide que toi !"
- Jean-Marc Liotier
Men can live without air a few minutes, without water for about two weeks, without food for about two months - and without a new thought for years on end. - http://textbites.tumblr.com/post...
Nice ending, but it would be better when used with the original survival rule of three - three seconds to die of panic, three minutes to die of asphyxia, three hours to die of exposure, three days to die of thirst, three weeks to die of starvation, three months to die of hopelessness. I like this easy to remember survival framework - it provides a great guideline for organizing priorities.
- Jean-Marc Liotier
so priorities are. dont panic (think!), breathe, wrap up, have a drink, have a meal, keep dreaming (dont lose hope). Quite a good list to go by when any kind of crisis strikes
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
@iphigenie Yes, that is the quality of this list : it applies to the whole spectrum of situations, including waking up at home and deciding what to do this morning...
- Jean-Marc Liotier
This is certainly close to that start of my sanity list, which further includes "go outdoors" and "play" (got a dog to make sure I cannot forget those two)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I'm still banging into "sorry Hometown's gone" page on a regular basis when doing research, recently it was for costume information
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Now the same will happen with geocities, and we wont realise what really was lost until months later following a link from an article. Yes, 90% of geocities and hometown (and tripod) was just noise, but there is information there painstakingly gathered and hard to reproduce
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Now it is time to do a search for geocities in your bookmark collections, research notes and shares, and get an archive of those pages. Perhaps even do a search across your favorite blogs and in google for your favorite topics on geocities. Snatch that information
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
What happened on geocities, hometown and tripod was the same kind of explosion of writing and sharing which has happened with blogs. These sites are about people, hobbies, history, people's passions and collections and knowledge, hand entered and scanned and organised. What happens now with blogs and tumblr/posterous and friendfeed, happened there on those sites
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
That is another thing for open distributed protocols over full service web/cloud apps - newsgroup archives will outlast friendfeed/twitter archives
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Were there other parties who had usenet archives other than Dejavu? I thought Google bought Dejavu for its archives?
- Meryn Stol
Yes there were - many active newsservers have archives that go way back, and communities of interest have kept archives of groups around a topic. Dejavu had an archive PLUS a pretty web interface. The main point though is that due to the nature of nntp anyone with an interest could archive without a lot of work - distribution and replication are build right in - whereas to archive say...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hmm I didn't know some news servers had full archives. Interesting. Well it's clear that something alike should happen around social media. At the minimum, I companies running online public communication services should make it easy for users to get the data out.
- Meryn Stol
Thanks for the link - between them and archive.org and individuals snapping what they can, it's a pretty good effort.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I do think the digitally connected community should speak up more to tell companies it is not OK to disconnect services and delete data without enough notice - the removal of a service should be about 3 months notice, with plenty of attempts to contact people, and there should be a "data recovery only" access kept for at least 6 months after disconnection (site is gone but through ftp...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Every time we let it happen without writing "truly that is not acceptable business behaviour" we tell these companies that they can get away with it, that it is normal to totally delete someone's family history or carefully researched hobby sharing, hundreds of hours of work, with 4 weeks notice and not even an email sent... Read some of the reactions people wrote to the disappearance...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Four weeks' notice? Yahoo! announced on April 23rd that they were shutting down Geocities. They've been sending notifications ever since then to the email address on record.
- Glen Mistletoe
Yes, this time they did better - AOL gave 4 weeks and Yahoo has in the past given as little as 2 weeks for some services. it would have been clever of them though to have a banner or something shown on the sites themselves. It does seem a bit silly, I suspect geocities is a fraction of the storage of other yahoo properties and a fraction of the bandwidth... it can't save yahoo very much, especially considering the cost of warning, writing, tracking, checking with lawyers, cleaning up etc.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
one thing that puzzles me is that I thought tripod had beem announced for closing down, but i find many tripod sites still up - I wonder if Lycos decided it was cheap enough to keep, or got people to pay or what happened there, anyone know?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
It would be nice if there was a way to import those sites into another service so they will not be lost.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
They all lack this kind of option as far as I know - they are edited through special wizards and pretty much people are expected to just save the pages (manually, or, if they have a clever friend, through a spider tool) and then copy/paste. It's a bit of a shame, and not very professional of the companies in question. It's as if your self storage company dumped your furniture on the street cause their rent went up.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Could Yahoo get sued for this behavior, like Amazon was for the "retraction" of 1984 from its Kindles? That action was within the bounds of the Kindle ToS, I believe. And I think that points to the main issue here: To what extend can companies just provide products "as is", without warranty, without promises. I'm a bit on the fence about this. The libertarian in me says they should be...
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- Meryn Stol
Meryn, please - world doesn't rotate around law-and-order :-/
- A.T.
Meryn: The GeoCities ToS has provisions for them closing down the service. Anyone can get sued for anything, but it's extremely unlikely that any such suit would hold water.
- Kevin Fox
@meryn I'm getting more and more pissed off with "sue them" as resolution method. I mean, I'm pretty Ok with legal system as such, but it _does_ drive me sick when people (mostly of western origin) start to use it to solve any problem they seem to be unable to solve. Law is not a hammer, and humans are not nails, y'know...
- A.T.
Kevin, as I said, I believe the Kindle ToS had provisions for Amazon removing books at will too. Yet, Amazon has settled with the plaintiff in the 1984 case. See http://arstechnica.com/web... Of particular interest here is that this was about deletion of personal content, namely a person's notes accompanying the...
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- Meryn Stol
A.T. Lawsuits are an important way how private law evolves. People need to show they feel being treated unjust, and perhaps unlawful. And after the law has been updated, lawsuits (or the threat of lawsuits) are just as important for keeping parties for crossing the lines of justice. Of course, in many western countries, there are ways to settle disputes outside of court, and I think...
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- Meryn Stol
To be clear, I highly doubt plaintiffs would have a proper case here. But still, they might sue anyway, and Yahoo might respond somewhat the same as Amazon did.
- Meryn Stol
The Amazon case is indeed different since there is a financial contract and the client can be excused to have some expectations no matter what the T&Cs say, especially about their own content. But even in the case of hosting and cloud services, abusive T&Cs can be challenged, as can T&Cs that have changed since the original agreement. But I am not talking about lawsuits, simply about...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
geocities was my first web page host, ah memories :)
- Mike Chelen
That's the whole point, for millions of people geocities, homestead or tripod was their first homepage - for their hobby, their writings, their family history, their pet theories, whatever. It has value - historical value, anthropological value, and emotional value. It's the pioneer huts of the web, we wipe them all out we're losing history we will miss 50 years from now. Yes, it is...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
It is a disgrace. Yahoo's instructions to people as to how to save their photos and writings? Just like AOL's: Go on each page and use "save as" - I'm sorry, they could not whip up an export or a zip-a-whole-site utility? They paid billions for these sites but cant spare 1 person day to gracefully allow people to save their stuff? It's not that hard to do!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
And it gets worse, according to archiveteam: "Geocities only allow 15 megabytes of a website to be downloaded during a given hour, from anywhere, before that site goes “down” until the hour is up. " - so people are supposed to manually download their site, but if the site is large after a while it goes down, and how are people supposed to know that they must return in an hour and...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Got an email from Google Latitude telling me that I'm using it, seems a bit odd. Have people been panicking about their location being sent to Google or something?
I've been getting this that email ever since I started using latitude. It's odd that you just started getting the email now. did you just turn it on recently?
- Chris Faulkner
Nope, I've had it broadcasting my location for a couple of months now. But today is the first time I've received that email.
- Wilka Hudson
Same here - I've been using it ever since I got my G2 and I got my first such message today. Maybe Google Latitude now tracks position more aggressively.
- Jean-Marc Liotier
Same here (got the email a month after enabling Latitude - turned reminder off in profile - got an email again today). They must have done a reset on user preferences...
- Yves Le Jan
Here's where I changed a related setting a long time ago: http://www.google.com/latitud... But (a) it was for the public badge, a specific feature within Latitude and (b) it looks like it is still turned off. So there's probably new additional reminders in place Google put in place recently
- Yves Le Jan
"You are not the only one struck by the similarity. Take a look at this Nintendo DS artfully painted to resemble the Donkey Kong Game & Watch : http://kotomiblog.blogspot.com/2006.... Nintendo even released the Nintendo DS game Game & Watch Collection, a cartridge that features ports of three classic LCD games from Nintendo’s past : http://uk.ds.ign.com/article..."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
That's in part because many people see video as easier than writing - no need to plan or script it, just babble and people will watch
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
What that does is swap their time (planning, editing a tight video) for mine (having to wait through unedited babble)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I always prefer text over video as it is faster to skim through and contains often more substance than videos.
- Jemm
Yes, they have gotten away with it so far because of the novelty for most people. And I find a lot of programs on TV as the same. Yes, it is sometimes nice to show things, but no need to always dramatize, create fake suspense and delays, and just waffle on about the same thing 5 times...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
For fiction and fun it is different - some things work in film/video that dont on paper (and vice versa)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
The only videos I find useful are either the highly edited ones or those which render an impression of an atmosphere. For the rest, I wish there was a transcript available along with the video.
- Jean-Marc Liotier
(posting anonymously because I don't want to post in my own name about my sexual orientations) Why not look at the bright side of it ? I'm a European guy whose taste leans heavily toward living with an African, and I thank those other white guys who bias this market segment in my favor ! Same with the employment market : companies who have are not hiring this talent because they don't...
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- Jean-Marc Liotier
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"Looks like obsolescence of physical keys. I imagine them becoming supports for cryptographic authentication. The biggest problem will be that this security is dependant on an electricity source."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Looks like obsolescence of physical keys. I imagine them becoming supports for cryptographic authentication. The biggest problem will be that this security is dependant on an electricity source."
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Serna Free XML editor is an easy-to-use open source WYSIWYG XML editor for those who wish to smoothly adopt the XML technology. Indeed, Serna Free is the most powerful among free and open source XML editors for WYSIWYG authoring. Most people will find Serna Free XML content editor easy to use as it hides all the complexities of the underlying XML technology. Authors with virtually no XML experience can easily start working with structured XML content in a familiar environment that looks much like a conventional word processor."
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
from Bookmarklet
interesting. i am currently using XMLMind Editor on a major DocBook project. This product might be a useful alternative. I will note the for-pay version is pretty pricey, tho.
- MikeAmundsen
it's always been -it's aimed at the corporate market and priced like other XML workflow tools - they only recently added an open source version
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
"Aucune idée, mais je crois plutôt que je ne suis pas le seul que ça a choqué. Inliner m’a passée ton URL cette après-midi… Il est plus rapide que toi !"
- Jean-Marc Liotier
How long does it usually take to bike 10 miles? I think I can do it in 30 min, but I haven't really timed myself in awhile. I might get this new position, and I'm thinking of commuting via bike
Some of it will depend on how hard to you want to pedal without getting sweaty before work and if any of it is uphill. I have absolutely no idea :)
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Hard to say without biking it. You might find yourself taking a 12 mile route to avoid car-centric jam-ups. You might find that there are bike/ped overpasses and other shortcuts not accessible to the car and you can do it in 8-9 miles instead. I have done 10 miles in 30 min, so it's not implausable that you'd be able to do it, but that was on gravel without any traffic or cars, so your speed may vary.
- Wirehead
@Wirehead It's a long trail, so there is no battling cars, unless you are crossing a street. You commute to work. How do you do it? Do you have clothes at the office? Take a shower there?
- Shevonne
I commute in street clothes and don't generally bother showering. I tend to keep it around 12-15mph on the way to work so I don't get sweaty and therefore don't have to shower or change. And then I'll punch it and go 15-20mph on the way back. (Mind you, these speeds are on a mountain bike with suspension, so my rolling resistance is much higher than a road bike)
- Wirehead
I've got panniers on my bike to carry stuff. Right now, because it's the dry-season in California, I just have a jacket packed. During the rainy-season, I'll wear the jacket and keep a pair of rain pants there. And I've got 4 lights, 2 in the front and 2 in the back, for shorter days or when I have to stay late.
- Wirehead
it depends on the route. wirehead has it right. my 9 mile commute turns into 15 and i could shorten it, but its dangerous. sadly i cannot bike to work for the reasons you bring up shevonne, plus it gets africa-hot here even in the winter.
- Carlos Ayala
And I've got a clip-on fender that I leave off except during the rainy season.
- Wirehead
Not trying to turn it gender, but do you see it being harder for women because of makeup, hair, and clothes? I was thinking of buying a hybrid
- Shevonne
yes shevonne. it is harder for a woman, if they fall into that category. i know pllenty that do not do it but wish they could for these reasons.
- Carlos Ayala
I have always thought biking to work would require me to shower after arriving at the office. I live in the southeast though, it's always hot and humid out here.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
20 miles an hour is a bit optimistic. Typically I average 18 -20 km/hour (11-12 mph) mostly in mid range on a mountain style bike with some ups and downs for a 15km (10 or so miles) stretch. At this pace I do get damp. I am thinking closer to an hour is more reasonable.
- Brian Sullivan
I'm not sure about hair and makeup. Clothes are less of a problem than you'd think, as one of my friends bikes to work routinely in a skirt without changing.
- Wirehead
Great! I think I might test it out once to see how it works out. That is if I really get the position. =D
- Shevonne
I regularly do 19 miles in 50 minutes, so.... 30 minutes should work.
- Ben Hanten
There are a lot of options. Is more a matter of examining what's working and what isn't. Some folks will commute in bikewear and change at work after toweling off in the bathroom. Some people drive in on Monday and just keep a week's worth of work-wear in their cube. etc.
- Wirehead
Yeay! All of you are motivating me to do it. Of course, I will have to take the metro during the winter, but I can save on money, car maintenance, and helping the environment at the same time. =D
- Shevonne
You can also do it halfway. e.g. bike to the metro. I had a 10 mi commute that I'd bike 5 miles and then take the light rail 5 miles.
- Wirehead
The only reason that I would be reluctant to do that is cause there is no trail to go to the metro, so I would have to battle with cars (and people in VA are not the best drivers) to get there.
- Shevonne
Yeah 20 mph is probably too much -- when I do my 19 miles, the goal is to keep my heartrate up. That's probably not what you are going to want on your way to work. Maybe think of something around 13 - 15 mph.
- Ben Hanten
Hahahah...sorry, I've been brain dead since Friday
- Shevonne
No way I would ride my bike in office clothes - I carry towel, shoes, pants and shirts in my panniers. Cycling clothes make any weather painless, so I prefer to change when arriving at work.
- Jean-Marc Liotier
"Certes c’est une pratique répandue depuis longtemps, mais jusqu’à maintenant j’avais eu la chance d’être client d’ISP qui n’avaient pas encore cédé à la tentation. Si les anglophones habitués de ces questions ont pu suivre ce débat depuis quelques années, le grand public Français est moins au fait – alors cet exposé me paraissait utile, même si la pureté technique d’un service grang public n’a évidemment aucune chance face à une source de revenu…"
- Jean-Marc Liotier
in a text document format you can skim the bits that are too slow, and slow down on tricky bits, but video forces their view on you
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
and yet nowadays so much is done in video, online - because it is easier to do. We don't yet have "style" expectations from video.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Perhaps one day video will have the same amount of thinking/editing work put in it, and it will offer ways to adapt speed
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
we might need DVD style segmentation for online video - so you have a "yes, i know this bit, next item" button we can press
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
On top of feeling slow as molasses, video lacks the machine readability of a transcript.
- Jean-Marc Liotier
My response to this dilemma is to wait for other people to watch the video, and skim their comments
- Nathaniel Thurston
Skimming people's comments is another danger to sanity altogether. I do like sites that have text transcripts - I just go straight to that first
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I prefer in-person demos (but will accept video) for things that are locational and spatial in a way that is either hard to express in words or something that I have a hard time getting from merely reading. But I love reading.
- Spidra Webster
I hate web casts and training videos etc. They are often too long and offer little substance. If there is a transcript or a blog post, I'd rather use them for reference.
- Jemm
I can learn using any source - if it's video I'll watch and do shortly after they do up until the point where I overtake them. I'll pause the vid and continue what I was doing until I get stuck. Unpause to see where I deviated from them. The only thing I can't learn from just reading is another language, but then I have a rather big problem learning other languages anyway ;)
- alphaxion
Video is slow, yes, but on the other side some conferences are really stimulating.
- Thierry Lhôte
In general, I don't like video that much, but there are two notable exceptions. I like screencasts. For me, they cost the least effort to get a sense of a new piece of software, or some particular development technique. Aside from that, I like to watch lectures and talks from experts and prominent people. I think there's information in their articulation, tone of voice, gestures and...
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- Meryn Stol
yes, video is a far better way to share a conference than just transcripts - when it comes to debate and opinion and seeing what was there. Although it also makes it painfully visible how few people actually really have something to contribute...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, I'm usually not very interested in audience questions. For me, it's all about the speaker. I'm talking about videos from TED and Fora.tv (various venues) specifically. Also, if you spend so much time alone behind a desk as I do, then it's nice to see a living, breathing human being once in a while - to share some laughs and tears with.
- Meryn Stol
One other reason I like video is that it can remove false images of a person. Especially people who are - to some extend - demonized by others may look very human, caring and reasonable when you see them talking, if only in a brief television interview. What's left usually are some whacky opinions/positions which can just as well be ascribed to ignorance as to disingenuousness. Almost without exception, I end up with a more favorable opinion of a person after watching a video performance.
- Meryn Stol
You spoke my mind, Joelle. The only videos I think are worthwhile watching are when multiple people are interacting in real life - conferences, discussions, etc. Single person interviews/videos force their slow speed on me, and I always prefer text transcripts.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)