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- Liviu Barbat
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"everyone who lives and works on the web should experience Chrome first hand. The reason is simple: Chrome is very, very fast. Sickeningly fast, actually."
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The British perspective on Europe: the appointment of Europe's British 'foreign minister' "will ensure that Britain's voice is very loud and clear." Ashton's appointment "gives Britain a powerful voice both within the European council and the commission." - Gordon Brown.
- Liviu Barbat
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- Liviu Barbat
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"Prokop also said he felt sorry for his statements right after the match that had ended 27-27. "No coach can be taken seriously two hours after a match. I was not present physically," he argued" - WTF physically???
- Liviu Barbat
Today a group of us visited San Quentin Prison. Got a complete tour. Talked with murderers. Walked the yard amongst inmates. Visited much of the facilities. Visited an actual cell and talked with the guys who live there.
- Robert Scoble
Catherine: none are allowed on the Internet. But several have blogs done by their families or friends.
- Robert Scoble
That's pretty crazy. I see it every time I take the ferry to Marin.
- Daniel Brusilovsky
Nothing fun about this place. It's quite different being there than seeing it on TV or in the movies. I never felt at ease even though I knew nothing would happen to us.
- Robert Scoble
The prison system is its own economy in California.
- Jesse P. Luna
I know what you mean. I spent time on a film shoot in an Italian prison once. You feel the pain everywhere.
- Catherine Ventura
I'll try to rattle off some of my memories. Walking in the front gate was wild. The gate is very old, built in the 1950s. We walked in the same entrance Johnny Cash did. You get signed in. Show IDs. Not allowed to bring in any cell phone or cameras. They stamp your hands. Not allowed to wear blue pants or jeans (we put green pants over ours). Go through one door. Wait.
- Robert Scoble
Go through another door. Wait for the first door to lock. Then walk into yet another area. Wait for yet a third door to open (only opens after you've closed the door behind you). Let's just say that it's been decades since the last person escaped from here.
- Robert Scoble
We walk in the courtyard and there's a new prisoner (in white) being led in in handcuffs. But the courtyard is pretty beautiful. San Quentin is actually a prison most prisoners want to come to because of its beauty and programs. We instantly meet a well spoken prisoner who starts giving us a PR speech before we stop him and ask why he's talking to us like a PR guy. He explained...
- Robert Scoble
...that he's one of the "best" prisoners and is in a program to earn good points and by talking nicely with us he's earning good points which will help him possibly gain release. We learn later he murdered his sister with a shotgun about 28 years ago and has been inside ever since and is up for parole again next year. The conversation stuck with all of us. We asked him how many...
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- Robert Scoble
Only a few hundred of the thousands of prisoners are in a "program" which means they do work (most of the state's furniture is made here in a factory on the prison grounds -- we sat in the chairs and they do nice work) and take classes and are generally trying to become nice people who can survive on the outside (the guy we talked with took college classes and earned a degree here).
- Robert Scoble
After visiting the furniture factory (Prison Industries, they call it) we headed across the yard. While doing that a general alarm rang, a voice called out "alarm" and everyone dropped to their knee. Guard towers looking over the yard had guns aimed and ready. Our guide said we don't need to kneel but it was a spooky moment.
- Robert Scoble
My dad's band, Lightwalker, goes to play for them once a year.
- Danny Minick
We visited the dining area where we got locked in (we were only ones there) and saw the famous artwork of Alfred Santos. The New York Times has pictures and details here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007... -- awesome artwork that only a few regular people get to see. A guard later told us about being attacked in a riot in this room (200 inmates will sit here at one time with only three guards watching at a time). It is one of the most dangerous places in the prison.
- Robert Scoble
As we walked the guard who was giving us the tour explained how gangs inside the prison worked and how people carry contraband, notes, and other things in, well, body cavities. Let's just say I have new respect for what people can do with a shampoo bottle.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure it was great to go home
- Douglas Sandquist
from iPhone
We walked over to one of the sleeping areas, which had hundreds of bunk beds open without any walls. The guard explained why prison life is so stressful. Imagine having to sleep knowing that your enemies can try to cut your throat at any time.
- Robert Scoble
My uncle also got his college degree while in prison. Unfortunately, the bulk of the work programs at his facility weren't focused on the quality of work being done but rather the sheer meeting of quotas.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Then we visited one of the buildings which had five stories of very small prison cells. Two people to a cell in a space about half the size of my upstairs office, which isn't that big. A toilet (no privacy) and not much else. Along the sides were cages, which we saw some people in. One guy was whining like a baby. Turned out he was thrown into a cage after getting maced for getting in a fight.
- Robert Scoble
Our guide, a guard, asked him "were you fighting?" Answer: "no." Then our guide asked "did you win?" Answer: "Oh yeah, I kicked his ass." Guards learn quickly how to get the truth out of people here.
- Robert Scoble
These cages were the size of telephone booths and people get thrown in them to punish them for misbehaving and to calm them down. Around the corner we're invited by the guards to visit someone's cell. I call it the PR tour because it's obvious the prisoners in the cell have been through this before.
- Robert Scoble
Turns out they were in for burglary and assault. They explained their life. 23 hours in the cell. 1 hour to eat. Every other day they get half a day in the yard. Every other day they get to take a five-minute shower (no privacy).
- Robert Scoble
I looked for technology. Beside having wifi for the guards (secure, of course) there was very little technology to speak of. Many of the prisoners have NEVER seen a web page. The Warden is on Facebook but not Twitter or FriendFeed. But other than a Dell on his desk I didn't see much other tech.
- Robert Scoble
This is the best item/experience I have EVER seen you post Robert. Good job and thank you.
- Joe
As we walked out we visited where the exercise yard used to be. There are tons of bullet holes in the roof covering the yard. Why? They used to fire a warning shot to try to break up fights/stabbings. Now the rule? No warning shots. If you are going to fire your weapon as a guard it will be to kill.
- Robert Scoble
Catherine: we heard some prisoners had them but I never saw a TV but we didn't visit many of the housing units. They didn't allow us in the areas where the worst prisoners are (we saw some condemned prisoners, but they were handcuffed and carefully watched). But certainly no HDTVs.
- Robert Scoble
Looks like it was quite an eye opener for you all.
- Joe
Joe: it was an eye opener, for sure. It certainly was a way to learn something different and also build a relationship with other bloggers too. We should have some pictures, by the way, soon. The guard had a camera he was allowed to take in but he was careful not to take pictures of other guards.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting to read this inside friendfeed - in 1 paragraph chunks every minute. I don't usually use this service. Normally I would see this via Google Reader.
- Damien Hogan
Joe: I would go back, sure, but probably only if they gave me full camera access. If I were ever to write a script this would be an awesome place to do research.
- Robert Scoble
Damien: I like writing raw and this doesn't really belong on my blog anyway.
- Robert Scoble
True, re blog - perhaps there is some other location for it - before it gets swept away in the stream.
- Damien Hogan
I'm glad to have gotten to do it. It's a place we all hear about and most of us never get to experience it. Oh, we also talked at length with the warden. Interesting about the budget struggles he's under. Said that he had to give layoff notices to lots of the education workers. What impact does that have?
- Robert Scoble
Just wow, Robert - thank you for the detailed, yet raw stream of thought account of being on the inside.
- Micah Wittman
Well, remember, many of these prisoners will get out. If they have no education and aren't prepared mentally and spiritually for surviving on the outside and getting along with people guess what they'll do? Cause harm to us.
- Robert Scoble
Gave me new perspective on the budget battles since so much of our money goes to the prison system (one of the bad parts of our society).
- Robert Scoble
I remember on my first Alcatraz visit when they shut the door and we were inside the hole - solitary confinement. I'll never forget it.
- Micah Wittman
Oh, and guess who's been visiting lately? The Chinese and Turkish Prison managers who want to make sure they stay on teh right side of the human rights lines.
- Robert Scoble
Micah: I did that at Alcatraz too, but it doesn't have the emotional impact of being in a cell at San Quentin with real life prisoners standing around.
- Robert Scoble
Rofbert, when prison budgets get cut the concept of rehabilitation is usually the first thing out the window. The system shifts to sheer containment, which usually causes skyrocketing recidivism rates.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Now that is an interesting angle right there Robert. (Chinese and Turkish prison managers)
- Joe
Fascinating about the Chinese and Turkish managers!
- Catherine Ventura
Tina: yup. And this is already a tough place to rehabilitate people because the gang system is against you if you're here. One inmate has been stabbed 31 separate times.
- Robert Scoble
US has got 2.3 million people incarcerated at any one time. Most will be released. Definitely worth thinking about how to manage what happens after that. Education is key.
- Damien Hogan
170,000 in California, the Warden said.
- Robert Scoble
How did you find out about the visiting managers from China and Turkey?
- Joe
23.6% of the world's prison population according to wikipedia!
- Damien Hogan
Joe: we were joking around that this was probably better than prisons in China and Turkey and the guard offered that information.
- Robert Scoble
I was just working on the Manhattan DA race and all three candidates used "ending recidivism" as a campaign platform. Good sign.
- Catherine Ventura
Robert - absolutely. A ghost town facility is no comparison to a living, breathing penitentiary.
- Micah Wittman
Micah: and when you are talking to prisoners face-to-face and you know that any of them could take you out at any time it adds a little bit of an edge that's tough to explain.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, at the beginning of the tour the guard explained the hostage policy of the prison. Under no circumstances will they trade a prisoner's release for your release. Our guard is the chief hostage negotiator, we learned. He ended one situation by trading a steak dinner for a hostage once, he told us.
- Robert Scoble
Talking to prisoners is definitely surreal...a few years ago on a doc film crew I spent a day in the Maricopa County Jail (Phoenix) and that crazy tent city Sheriff Joe Arpaio runs there...not the same as a prison, but still a very tense place.
- Phillip Johnson
Anyway, gotta go do other stuff. Hope you enjoyed this.
- Robert Scoble
Thank you for sharing Robert it sounds like an interesting visit.
- Rob Cairns
A couple other things: 1. some guards are paid more than $200,000 a year by working tons of overtime. 2. An automatic way to get fired here is to lie (as a guard). We heard a few stories about that.
- Robert Scoble
Robert ... Outstanding recap of our four hours on "the inside". I have to say, the gas chamber was an unexpected bonus. Amazing tour! Dennis Hall
- Brandon
I've visited both San Quentin and US Penitentiary Lompoc - which once had the nickname and function of "The New Rock", but is now FCI (Federal Correctional Institute) Medium - as part of my training to work on Alcatraz.
- Ranger Craig
Former Alcatraz inmates I've known always talk about how they hoped, if they were caught, they would do time in a federal penitentiary rather than a state prison. Comparing the two I'd agree, if only because of the overcrowding at San Quentin. California's first prison began on a ship in San Francisco Bay - those inmates built the original San Quentin which opened a year later in 1852.
- Ranger Craig
One thing I love about FriendFeed and Twitter is that we have a real Ranger who gives tours on Alcatraz. Hi Craig, interesting info.
- Robert Scoble
Thank you so much, Robert. You've shared an experience I think many of us have learned from and you've done it in a fashion using FriendFeed that I quite admire.
- Holly Rae, FFer
Thanks, always glad to get a reminder of how bad things can be...
- Denverken
Thank you for sharing your experience in a sensitive, informative way. There are so many things in life most of us never know about, but could benefit from by learning about. Prison life is one of them.
- Marie Carnes
"Many of the prisoners have NEVER seen a web page." !!! :(
- Liviu Barbat
Good piece. As fugitive recovery specialists we have had direct contact with many tenants of the Q. (from the outside, of course). San Quentin has always possessed a certain mystique and awe to both convicts and regular citizens. Before institutions such as Pelican Bay, San Quentin was known as the original 'Gladiator School'.
- hypyklrz
This was great, thanks for doing it. People need to see the folly of taking society's screw-ups and shutting them away where they learn nothing but more ways to screw up.
- Lo
Roll call...this can be great if we all participate. Add yourself to this shared map. I created a placemark on the 2 major intersections near where I live.
- Mark Krynsky
Mo, I'm a newb to the shared maps stuff, but I turned on collaboration and allowed anyone to edit the map. There should be an edit button and then you can add a placemark.
- Mark Krynsky
Robert bought me a new house in the northern suburbs.
- Andrew Trinh
@Bec...nice. You are the first brave female on here.
- Mark Krynsky
Cool idea, Mark! I was thinking something like this would be fun the other day. Duly added myself - or at least the nearest big intersection. ;)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Mousing over the usernames shows your Google profile info...cool.
- Mark Krynsky
I marked a bus stop near my house. But not TOO near. :)
- Nine
If you haven't yet...go add FriendFeed to your Google Profile...it will then auto-discover and allow you to add a ton of other profiles you have.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks guys. This is coming along nicely. It's great to have as a resource to see where everyone is from. Hopefully this can become a standard feature on FF one day.
- Mark Krynsky
Canterbury, Melbourne, Victoria added
- Duncan Riley
Current count: 13 US, 11 Europe, 3 Australia, 1 Middle East. Happy to see many others add themselves overnight. Hoping more will continue this.
- Mark Krynsky
Hey Robert Haas - We're apparently neighbors. - edit. Okay maybe not, unless you live at the airport. XD
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I've read the instruction and still don't see the button thing to add myself. I'm feeling pretty stupid right now.
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@Jill, make sure you are logged into your Google account and then click on the edit button above the list of names already on the map. You will then see the pushpin in the upper left hand side of the map.
- Mark Krynsky
Added. Seems like there are a lot of us in the Bay Area...we must do a get together at some point.
- Neal Jansons
@Neal yea, we really need a FriendFeed meetup. I might be up there for Web 2.0 in March...or we can have one at SXSW if a large number of us are going. Let's plan and get the Upcoming page going.
- Mark Krynsky
@Mark Not gonna make SXSW, but am definitely down for working on an FF get together. March is long enough away to make sure plenty of people have time to plan ahead. I added you on Upcoming so we can start coordinating it. Anyone else interested/want to help set this up?
- Neal Jansons
Maybe we can talk Paul & Bret into letting us invade the FF offices for a meetup in conjunction with Web 2.0? That would be sooooo cool!
- Mark Krynsky
Oooh, now that's a really great idea.
- Neal Jansons
Pinned! sheesh this just cost me 1/2 hour of time as I scrolled thru all the folks :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Except for Bret, there are no FriendFeeders on the penninsula between San Jose and San Francisco. So much for Silicon Valley early adopters.
- Ryan Kuder
Cluelessness alert! I'm not seeing how to add my pushpin!
- Hutch Carpenter
For some reason whenever i use google maps in creation-mode, it defaults to some other maps I've used, not the one I'm trying to access - ah, figured it out. Had to de-activate some other collaborative maps
- anna sauce
Added. What a great way to see who's on FF in Austin, TX!
- Carter Rabasa
Nice! I'm the only active FriendFeeder in Montreal: Quebec represents FF! I could be a French Canadian FF ambassador or something. =)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Le président du conseil général de Vendée Philippe de Villiers s'est indigné mardi de la polémique sur la candidature de Jean Sarkozy à la présidence de l'Etablissement public de la Défense (Epad) expliquant que le fils du chef de l'Etat avait "du talent et de l'étoffe". Source : LCI (s'abonner) Explorer : Jean Sarkozy
- me.log101
Who wouldn't be shocked to see someone die in a horrible accident? Brutal is right, and pretty far off YT's community guidelines (http://www.youtube.com/t...).
- Stephen Mack
Yeah, the whole "faces of death" thing on youtube doesn't seem right. Still, I watched.
- Josh Haley
BTW, the internal answer to "how do I get offensive content taken down" is "just use the regular UI and flag it, and our reviewers will pick it up". I think that's kind of cool.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
I dont understand whats all this censoring about. You all watched it, so why cant another fellow human being, out of his own free will, get to watch it too? Why should we exercise control over what another person can and cannot see? I dont see anything wrong with the subject matter of the video.
- TrafficBug
It was disturbing and sad...certainly not entertaining. Still, I don't see why it needed to be pulled. In a harsh way, it was educational. I'm with TrafficBug.
- Christopher A Carr
I was going to show my kids actually, as a shocking reminder to not play with electric wires. Its terribly graphic, but then again, so are lots of accidents that people get themselves into. I'm not saying it should necessarily be on YouTube without warnings however, just that it might have its uses for some people, as Chris points out above.
- John Graham
Not sure I get why Steve was so motivated to get it yanked. Perhaps he wants to be a hall monitor when he grows up.
- Christopher A Carr
That was a human being, with a family and friends. His death did not belong on video being shown around the world. If it were a relative of yours, would you want that person's death up there for all to see? I don't advocate for censorship much, but YT has rules -- porn gets pulled, shocking violence gets pulled. Don't like it? Set up your own video site or use one of the many others that don't have those rules.
- Stephen Mack
I flagged this because I like to watch YouTube videos with my 2yr old son. YouTube has no content-filtering system, and this video violated their TOS. If the guy climbed down from the train (i.e. wasn't dead) at the end, I wouldn't have flagged it.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
So a completely subjective reason, in other words. Thankfully you're a nice and generous guy (I'm sure).
- Christopher Galtenberg
Christopher, everything is subjective. If Steve hadn't flagged it, someone else would have. The video clearly violated YouTube's terms of service (just like porn or other objectionable content), and would have been removed eventually regardless. I happen to support that decision, for the reasons I typed out earlier that you didn't reply to. And in other news, I've known Steve for over 10 years. He is a nice and generous guy and a wonderful father. In contrast, how would you describe yourself?
- Stephen Mack
I would describe myself as 'not your nanny'. That said, please drive home safe.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Then I'm glad it was removed. I saw that about 6 months ago and still can't get it out of my head. If it helps, the back-story is that he was threatening to commit suicide by grabbing the lines if his demands weren't met and the apparently forgot the lines were there as he was fidgeting later.
- Kevin Fox
http://jezlyn.posterous.com I really like using it to feed content to my Wordpress blog and other sites at the same time. It's the only easy way I know of to e-mail posts "to" my Wordpress.com blog.
- Cheryl Jones
from BuddyFeed
Kol - it's great how one FF post can start a little movement. I've used it more today than since I signed up whenever a long time ago. Thanks.
- phil baumann
@phil couldn't you do the embed feature... ? post something to posterous.. and then 'edit' the post and paste the embed? Or maybe simply email it?
- Sean
Phil, click on the 'Share' link of the FF entry, then copy the embed code. Create a new Posterous entry, select HTML mode and paste in the embed code. You'll need to edit the width and height (looks like 500 for width). Then post. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget to tag your posts like this ((tag: posterous, friendfeed)) in the subject line of your emails. That way your posts will be seen easier by all other Posterous users when they use the global posterous search.
- Svartling
Kol, yes I see.. I added it, I guess Twitter does not have anything but javascript and flash widgets.. It doesnt matter, since I autopost to twitter there is a button there..
- David Gross
from email
How do you all add the little twitter and friendfeed images with links to your profiles here on posterous. I don't know the code to do that. :( Help when u can.
- Amani
http://mylescrew.posterous.com/ Right now I'm just testing, the import from Blogger was REALLY easy. I'm trying to "port" BlurbBits (http://ff.im/4tlY2) to make them work better on posterous. The iframe style parameter gets removed, which is different than Blogger (there is *always* something).
- Chris Myles
Amani, the little images for twitter etc you get if you autopost to those sites but you might end up with duplicate posts that way. There is a friendfeed badge you can put in your posterous profile at http://friendfeed.com/embed... use the image format, not javascript.
- David Gross
from email
Check out Wayne Suttons Posterous (he posted his URL in this thread). You see that he has changed some colors. That is a private beta feature that is coming soon to the public.
- Svartling
http://lizasperling.posterous.com/ Thanks - you are making this a very helpful Sunday:) AND for those of you trying to embed other images, etc...I did it in my profie and mash in friendfeed, zemanta, gmail, wisestamp,etc..FUN - happy to help.
- Liza
YOU are a great example of engaging followers and using tools to help us connect in many other ways. THANK YOU.
- Liza
the usual: bigstarlet.posterous.com. I use it as alternative picture posting device to Pixelpipe and also as an alternative to Ping.fm. Thanks for subbing to me there, Kol. :)
- Helen Sventitsky
@koltregaskes, my posterous is at http://alexschleber.posterous.com "Quick Hits Business Mindhacks". Had been using it quite a bit the first 6 months of this year. I'm a big fan of Garry & Sachin, but really wish posterous would hurry up with some of the much needed feature upgrades (skins and/or CSS, Retweet button - just use Tweetmeme, custom sidebar HTML, WYSIWIG bookmarklet, etc.) Seems like they're stalling a bit right now, no?
- Alex Schleber
They have to be careful not to mess with the simplicity of it, though; that's why so many people like it. If they tart it all up, it might as well just be Tumblr. Which already exists.
- Megen
from email
@koltregaskes weird that you're "what's your GReader/Posterous/FB?" entries from the last few days seem to presage in a way what happened today..
- Alex Schleber
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank God for this thread. I'm going to (slowly) subscribe to all the people I'm subbed to on FF. I have a hunch posterous is going to replace part of the puzzle for me. Thanks Kol.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I tried a post asking everyone to share their Google Reader shared items link, but I guess I don't have many followers. Maybe you can?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
My url is http://dave6.posterous.com I just tried out the "((nogallery))" feature that lets you post pictures not in gallery format by putting ((nogallery)) in email subject http://dave6.posterous.com/where-d... only problem is that it takes a while to load pictures if not using really high-speed internet.
- David Gross
from email
oh pretty regularly for about a year. didn't have a data plan on the phone so T-Mobile gave me MMS for free on my BB. :-) It's how I posted photos to Flickr.
- pea
Twice, but the first one went to the wrong number.
- Steve Lowe
from iPhone
never sent a mms - i think i send about 4 sms a month even tho i have unlimited
- Allen Stern
whats MMS ,, seriously ,, I know I have it ,, just dont know why I would ever have to send one
- johnpiercy
I used to do it about once a day prior to getting the iPhone. If iPhone supported it, I'd probably do it about once a day again.
- Rochelle
Mostly photos and videos. Some audio. Now that I think about it, I'm positive my current phone has MMS and not SMS. At any rate, my average with my current phone is about 15 per day.
- Admiral Anika
I think I sent one, just to test and see if it worked. With AT&T, though, you get charged extra to actually send the multimedia content that gets sent with the message (with unlimited messaging, the message itself is "free", but any photos, video, etc. sent with it uses your "data" plan), so I don't make a habit of it.
- Curtiss Grymala
200 or so. My iPhone supports MMS by the way.
- Liviu Barbat
Lots. Used to send them before I got a BB/iPhone more though. Then since we got MMS on the iPhone i sent them just because i could. It's not a dead feature yet though, most people I'd say still don't have internet enabled phones, but MMS is such an old feature it's on most of those handsets still.
- Simon Wicks
Thousands of times with my old phone. Have you never taken a picture with your phone and sent it to a friend? That's an MMS. Which is why I was amazed that the iPhone didn't have it. I've never wanted to send pictures via email. That makes no sense at all.
- Otto
why some iphone users wanted this so bad, who knows- maybe they never setup their default mail client.
- Franz Sittampalam
I send multimedia stuff through email. I never send MMS.
- Jason Huebel
Franz: When I want to send a picture to a friend, I want them to see it right now, possibly to respond to it. Email is not immediate.
- Otto
Otto, that is true but would you change your mind if you were using push email
- Franz Sittampalam
Franz: I do have push email. But not everybody has an iPhone. Many of the friends I want to send photos to in real time don't, nor should they have to have one. Which is why I need MMS, because it's ubiquitous on camera phones, except the bloody iPhone.
- Otto
Everyone does not have a data plan on their phone. I remember going through a lot of changes trying to send pics to my friends from my Sidekick 2.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I agree with Otto one this one. The main thing that was holding me back from getting an iPhone is the lack of MMS. Most of my family do not have data plans, and I get regular MMS messages from them. But... with ATT finally setting a date to support MMS, I might just go out and get that iPhone now.
- Steven Bryden
Otto, agreed - I was referring to iphone users only "why some iphone users wanted this so bad, who knows- maybe they never setup their default mail client"; MMS is the best way to immediately share a picture otherwise :) - I've sent about 5 since it was activated, mostly for testing purposes. I don't want to pay upwards of 25p for sending someone a picture unless it's important.
- Franz Sittampalam
I spent more time enabling MMS on my iPhone than actually using it so you have a point.
- sean808080
I had no idea the iPhone lacked MMS. That makes the apps from companies that don't waste their time supporting my phone make a lot more sense. <eyeroll>
- Admiral Anika
I can count on one hand. But its occasionaly useful for people you can't @reply on twitter with a twitpic or a twitvid.
- Roberto Bonini
only reason i haven't sent one is my iPhone wont let me
- fijidaddy
This discussion illustrates why much of the tech community is working with blinders on. "Wait, people don't have data plans? No email? They can only share media via MMS? What kind of arcane backwards junk is that?" :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
10? It's nice to be able to send a quick photo or video to someone.
- Rodfather
Whenever I send pix to Brighkite it then uploads to Flickr, so quite a few. I also take a lot and send them to my Evernote account.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Now that I'm back on Verizon, I've sent around 20, I'd say. That's in less than a month.
- Yolanda
I do have an unlimited data plan that I abuse mercilessly. (Yes, I tether.)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
It's not even about it being a neccesity, it's more about feeling like you are being cheated out of feature that other (dumb) phone users with no data plans can take advantage of we simply can't send it yet alone view ones that are incoming, it counters the argument that the iPhone is an advanced 21 century device.
- Tate DA FF MVP
from iPod
on old plan fairly often, current work phone doesn't support it
- Yant
Franz: MMS is the *correct* way to share a picture immediately. It's the standard. Co-opting email into some kind of real-time nonsense is a stupid mistake on Apple's part. Email is not real-time. Email is not supposed to be real-time.
- Otto
In the last 5 years I would say I've sent 3. Usually at the request of the recipient rather than me wanting to send one.
- Lee Stone
Never. I think it's a pointless and a bad way to send a message. Also, you can send an email whose data is built into your plan or pay 1,000/MB rate by sending an MMS message.
- Mike Bracco
The obvious reason to use MMS is to send a picture to someone who doesn't have a data connection on their phone and doesn't check their email constantly. I know lots of people like this so it makes sense to send them a picture by MMS.
- Martin Bryant
Install was trivial. 50 minutes on Macbook late 2008. The bad: Lost Windows Live Sync (they don't seem to care about it any more). Growl almost works. Mail add-ons don't. Canon scanner driver coming in two weeks or so. Nambu doesn't work. Wakoopa crashes. -- Otherwise it feels snappy. Chinese/Japanese text input fabulous.
- Liviu Barbat
M-audio drivers: will need to wait.
- Liviu Barbat
Afloat/PlugSuit need to be disabled. Otherwise you need to type in the admin password every 5 min
- Liviu Barbat
So. It's nice. It's very fast on the Macbook. Installing it today on the iMac would mean no printing for the time being, no scanning, no external sound card. So I'll wait. Maybe releasing it earlier than planned was not such a good idea.
- Liviu Barbat
but i have scored the same as other westerners on similar tests.
- Jessie
it's funny, i know rationally the kid's facial pixels are identical, yet my brain told me that in the second image his smile was forced and he was faking it. it was only in trying to figure out why i would feel that way, that i noticed the background of the image
- ௸ (k2g)
C'mon, let's not sow any Confucian around.
- Andrew C
Sometimes I use "normal" emoticons :) Sometimes Asian emoticons ^_^ (Edit: Actually, I think like a geek)
- Jemm
I scored 75% Asian. I thought the kid looked happy and the same in both pictures.
- Cristo
100% Asian, which is fun even if I'm not Asian, but i think the test itself is completely unscientific.
- Liviu Barbat
50/50, which is appropriate I guess, since I'm half Chinese. although in all of the questions except the first I could see validity in more than 1 of the answers
- chrisofspades
Interesting, I'm an Asian, but I don't think like one.
- Paul
from Shawshank
This is my first mac; almost two years old now. But when I get a new one next year, the essential ones will be: Quicksilver, Adium, Skitch, Aperture, iWork, Things, Evernote, Photoshop. Prolly Twitterific too, if it is still as good then.
- Parth Awasthi
What I run on a regular basis: Launchbar, Adium, Aperture, Evernote, Yojimbo, BBEdit, TweetDeck, Firefox, Photoshop.
- ronin
Every week when I get a new Mac (I wish) it's Adium, Quicksilver, Growl, Fluidapp and Mailplane first.
- Peter van Teeseling
Shimo (I guess that also means a Cisco VPN client), Office 2008 (but I've only had one new Mac) [edit: Remote Desktop Client, Firefox, Citrix]
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
TextWranger, Adium, 1Password, CS4 and Final Cut Pro
- dthree
Tweetdeck, Adium, Skype, Firefox, Dreamweaver, and Photoshop.
- Garin Kilpatrick
adium, perian, growl, netbeans, smultron, cyberduck
- Osman Üngür
Scott - last time it was CS3 with Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Dreamweaver
- Robert DeBord
Quicksilver, TextMate, DefaultFolder X, TextExpander, Developer Tools (incl. XCode), iWork, MacPorts and then LaTeX, Hazel, Adium, BibDesk, Carbon Copy Cloner, Colloquy, Gimp, ImageJ, iPhotoLibraryManager, MainActOn, MailTags, Matlab, OmniALL, Snapz Pro X, SpiritedAway, Transmit
- Jason Miller
This thread is great for the sole reason that I've asked myself, "ooh, whats that?" about a dozen times already. Ooh, and I'll toss in AppFresh as the first thing I put on.
- Mark Howell
Smugmug is a great place to showcase your work but it's the established social aspect of Flickr that makes it what it is. Zooomr comes close since it's practically a carbon copy of Flickr.
- ronin
Not Really. it's $39.95/year for the standard account.
- Roberto Bonini
I use many sites, many people are on flickr, rarely do I get a comment on my smugmug, it is more a back-up photo site for me, smugmug makes good prints, hope one day to upgrade to pro ,smugglr is good to transfer photos out of flickr.
- Richard Lazzara
That is true Richard. But Smugmug comes up roses everytime Flickr pulls these stunts.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Flickr is about the community. Also Ipernity, for example. Other sites are about storage, prints, sharing.
- Liviu Barbat
Would 23 work? It's been a while since I last used it, though.
- Tyson Key