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Bret Taylor
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
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You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :) - Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend. - Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF! - Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email. - Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lovely. Thanks guys. - Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included? - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest. - Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...) - Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful! - K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro. - Louis Gray
Cool! - Josh Haley
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry! - Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"? - 0M0M from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution. - Kathy Fitch
Nice addition! - Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments? - Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count! - Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-) - Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists) - Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :) - Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks! - Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :) - Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too. - Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier. - Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys - (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys! - Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there). - Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed .. - Franc, a rememberer
That's a cool feature - Xitong Liu
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011. - Jimminy IS Everybody
I still get them. - AJ Batac
I get these every day. - Me
i get it - solncee
I still get it - AJ Batac
*jealous* I no longer get anything but subscription emails. - Bruce Lewis
Casey Muller
This morning we changed the format of FriendFeed subscription email messages to include more information about people who subscribe to you. Please let us know if you see any problems, and keep an eye out for more email improvements in the future.
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Thank you very much, Casey! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Nicely done :) - LANjackal
Awesome! Now lets see support for more web services... - Jac Falcon
saw that, and it was mega-helpful. bravo. - Nathan Chase
Shoot. Now I need a subscription. - Josh Haley
I'm all for improving the format of notifications, but wonder (aloud) if it is such a smart move to include the Approve/Reject link right at the top (unless it only appears in private feeds to which someone has requested access). Right now we have the option of blocking/ rejecting a subscriber at any time but presumably not at the very outset. This may lead to more of a walled gardens' mentality, already very prevalent at FF. - ianf ⌘
ianf: approve/reject is only for private feeds. Public feeds just have a link to subscribe back :) - Benjamin Golub
Nice - Grant Bierman
that's great! - K.D.
LIKEY. - Steven Perez
I noticed this one! Such informations about people who subscribe to me on FriendFeed are useful, and makes it easy to quickly get in the conversation. Thanks for the good job! - Thierry R. Andriamirado
w00t! - David Cook
For features like this one, I'm ok to receive html emails. -MANY- html emails ;-) - Thierry R. Andriamirado
The new emails are AWESOME! - April Russo
Gmail automatically showed me the images in a subscription email, even though I never told it to (you know how gmail has the 'display images below' option). further, it doesn't give me the option to hide the images. not that I'd want to, but how are you bypassing gmail's security feature to hide the images? - chrisofspades
Chris, we don't do anything special. I'm not sure how gmail decides what images to show, you'd have to contact them or check the gmail help. - Casey Muller
Casey, you sure FriendFeed's founders didn't use some of their "we created Gmail" mojo? ;) - chrisofspades
Chris, the "show images" only applies to external images hosted on other sites. Gmail doesn't show those by default because doing so would allow people to "bug" email. We include the images with the email so that they can be displayed immediately. - Paul Buchheit
ahhhh that explains it. thanks Paul. - chrisofspades from email
Bret Taylor
Happy Holidays!
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Dead programs don't let you make comments - Ozgur Demir
dead programs don't let you like things - Roberto Bonini
Dead programs don't..... work. - tehKenny
Yay! The graphic has officially been flipped! No need for nostalgia. - Louis Gray
Kenndy actually makes a good point here... :) - Roberto Bonini
Merry Eggnog! ... and jeez, what's with the rude comments? It's the holidays. #relax - Mona Nomura
I think everyone knew exactly what you meant jeremy :) - Roberto Bonini
Jeremy, perhaps there's a misunderstanding. As a rule, FriendFeeders celebrate Festivus - maybe someone mistook this thread for the Airing of the Grievences ceremony. In any event, I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it! - John Craft
*gets popcorn* - Roberto Bonini
A little goes a long way around these here parts. *picks teeth with straw* - Josh Haley
^^^ :) - Micah
:) - Shandiz
Happy :)))))))))))))))))))) - ★ Soner Gönül
Happy Holidays everyone! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Merry Christmas - Xitong Liu
Merry Christmas - victed from iPhone
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
like for the bump, ;) - chaz2b
ta... - --ef--
Thanks much Bret. Happy Holidays to you too! - RON08 owned by jd again
Feliz Navidad - Harlem Garciia
I liked it - abdul amid
hey :) - amal
Friendfeed is very good for to help us an oursfirm.Thanks to Friendfeed - ALYANS
holaa - Sercan
bretçim sana dm atamıyorum abone olur musun:) - aynebilim
I do love this logo!!! - Rachel Lea Fox
I wonder how the holiday logo for FF will look this year? - Eivind
thanks - solncee
YAA BEN KAR YAĞMASINI BEKLİYORDUM BUNU HORTLATMAK İÇİN AMAAAAĞĞĞĞĞ...NABER BRET? - aynebilim
breeeettt evine dön..evde çoluk çocuk perişannnn..söz veriyorum kirli çoraplarını kanepeye bıraktın diye bi daha kızmayacam!! - aynebilim
UYUMA BRET - feraye
. - AJ Batac
Bret Taylor
FriendFeed Blog: Ben Darnell joins FriendFeed: Ben++! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
FriendFeed Blog: Ben Darnell joins FriendFeed: Ben++!
Welcome, Ben! - Kevin Fox
Right on! Congrats, Ben. - Micah
Congrats Ben! Also, congrats to FF you are lucky to have him! - Jason Shellen
Data storage and scalability rock. :) - Louis Gray
Congrats, Ben! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Yeah Ben!!! - Rachel Lea Fox
so i finally get my answer to this :) http://friendfeed.com/chris... - MG Siegler
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-) - Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that... more... - pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :) - Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team. - Anne Bouey
Woohoo! Another Googler :) - Tim Hoeck
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;)))) - K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;) - Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting - Roberto from fftogo
you're building a friendfeed army there :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congrats - Özkan Altuner
Nice, any former Google Reader-er is a friend of mine. - Mike Reynolds
gratz Ben! - timepilot
Welcome Bret! - Michael_techie
So, Facebook...? - Daniel J. Pritchett
Poor Ben Darnell. The last to enter are always the first to leave in mergers. - beersage
Hiring new staff while in secret acquisition talks, not exactly classy guys. I hope Ben knew what he was getting into - Glenn Slaven
Why on earth does he use the Duck Hunt theme? - Vezquex
I don't know.. but it is awesome! :) - Tim Hoeck
Wow, looks like somebody bumped this! - Kevin Fox
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped. - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was! - Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs* - Jimminy IS Everybody
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today. - Ben Darnell
Here, let me save future spammers some time: Hello my name is ____ and I am an attractive young ____ _____ and I would like to contact with you so that together you and I can ___ with ____ while _____ in a highly ____ manner. Please to be responding as soon as is practical. Without your help, the _____ in U.S. dollars will go unclaimed, and the herbal ______ remedy will wither and die. Yours in all urgent seriousness, _____. - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
:D, Stephen! - Anne Bouey
so sweet))lol - solncee
Awesome Photo :) - Adi Prcike
Which shows up more, this pic or the Asian gentlemen on the beach? - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo from iPhone
bret neler oluyor dostum? kardeşi kardeşe kırdıracaksın canım ülkemde!!! işinin başına dön lütfen.. - aynebilim
testa di cazzo se arcasca tutto te veniamo a cercà e non saremo teneri come i musulmani - Francesco M.
kime dedin onu francesco? - aynebilim
Bence de Friendfeede sahip çıksın artık... - Koleksiyoner Ali
Welcome, Ben! - Kevin Fox
Bret Taylor
The Secret Behind The Real-Time Web - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Secret Behind The Real-Time Web - YouTube
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Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out) - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool. - Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool. - Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!! - Chris Myles
This is awesome! - Christopher Chung
with a community like this - you just can't roll-it into f.b.. keep the dream alive! - michael sean wright
:O - Josh Haley
Amazing, thanks for that! - dkb
According to Ross, they used about 1030 individual pictures in the final version. Stop motion is a lot of work :) - Bret Taylor
Sure, sure--give away all the secrets. (Are those Lego dudes union?) - Kathy Fitch
very creative. wonder how long it took to do that stop-action? - berchman
Ross's best work so far ! great job Ross - goutham
Major props to Ross and Dan. FriendFeed lives on - Shane
That's priceless. Great job, guys. - John Craft
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too! - John W Lewis
Great project! - Anne Bouey
AWESOME! - Kevin Fox
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO? - Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels - patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :) - Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take? - Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That is so awesome - Glenn Slaven
happy-making! - Felicia Yue
I am more proud than ever for being a FriendFeeder :) - Arvind
Wow!!!!! - Mona Nomura
Excellent!! - Kol Tregaskes
That's great! - Devon Govett
Cool! The friendfeed's manufactury - Benedetto Vacca
неплохо, неплохо! Продолжение будет? - atner
hahaha very nice stop motion and music! - Alex Huinchucleffy
FULL OF WIN - Jac Falcon
might I remind everyone that we are still loving FrF ^__^ - Peter Fedin
Peter +1. - Ahmet Yükseltürk
This is very cool and interesting, thanks for sharing! - Sarah Stamos
+1 - solncee
I do love this video and all the time Dan and Ross put in to it. - Kevin Fox
Thanks, Kevin! :D - Dan Hsiao
I love that this got bumped!! - Rachel Lea Fox
Bret Taylor
Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
Nice! Friends, please send me recommendations :) - joey
Excellent feature, gooood idea! - Susan Beebe
Very cool =) - FFing Enigma
Cool stuff. - Mike Bracco
Uh, it tells me that Scoble, among others, could use the recommendations. WTF? Perhaps I have too few subscriptions for this to work. - Fred Yankowski
more good stuff - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Finally a better recommendation - directeur
I'd still love an "e-mail this item" feature, similar to Google Reader. - Jesse Stay
great idea! - Edwin Khodabakchian
Cool! Beats the heck out of #followfriday!! - Larry Hawes
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else. - FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you. - Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible. - FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it. - Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about? - Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like.... - FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug. - Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog. - Bret Taylor
User-driven...I like. - Josh Haley
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us? - Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender? - Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed. - Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended - Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical) - Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant. - FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation? - Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender. - Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn) - Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations - Bret Taylor from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :) - Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life.... - Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot. - Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :) - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily. - Natsuki Seika
Definitely better than #followfriday. - Bernie Goldbach
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user? - Kol Tregaskes
better - solncee
Rahsheen?
FriendFeed did WHAT?! - http://pikchur.com/t30
FriendFeed did WHAT?!
this picture rocks - Violet Mae Lim
Amen. - Yolanda
++ Rasheen. - Jimminy IS Everybody
Totally excellent! - Warren Butler
lol, I know right - Wayne Sutton
The iconic Rahsheen face. Good for a number of occasions. - Hutch Carpenter
Yes...definitely applies for various occasions :) - Rahsheen?
That's the face :) - Micah
Hahaha - Rodfather
that picture kills me LOL! :D - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
What's weird is he's wearing a shirt! - anna sauce
lollllllllllllllllllllll - Headless Gnad Kicker
If RahRah is wearing a shirt, hell must be freezing over! - imabonehead
Rah needs to do a video like I did. - Outsanity
best avatar eva!!! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Love that expression man :D - Praveen Vasudev
ahahahah :D - Sinan İŞLER
ahaha excellent expression! - Jacque
*bump* This is so perfect. - Andrew Smith
hey man this is really perfect =) - Ahmet UZUN
Retitled: 2 Social Networks and a cup, reax - Christopher Galtenberg from iPhone
Love it! Great face!! - Mitchell Tsai
Jejeje - Stalyn☂
They took the 50 mil and went to San Mateo without us..... - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
...but I LOVE this pic!!!! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Seriously - it makes me LOL everytime I see it! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
lets remember it, what did happen that day :) - alperyz
Wait, what? LOL - Rahsheen?
Will still be a classic remembered 500 years from now. - Micah
yep. :) - Abhishek
THIS IS HAPPENING ON GOOGLE+ RIGHT NOW! :D - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
^ Yep. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
We need pictures for "Instagram did what?" also. - Morton Fox
SUrprised no one has lolcatted this for various occasions.. - Rahsheen?
*gets on that* ;) - Hieronymous Boob
Benjamin Golub
We added a few features you might have missed recently: support for imgur.com thumbnails (http://friendfeed.com/search...) and "Best of" for users/groups on the iPhone (http://friendfeed.com/iphone...)
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Rumors of FriendFeed's death are greatly exaggerated. (Thank you, Ben!) - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Thanks, guys :) - Franc, a rememberer
Stephen, very happy to see new features like this, but I think the "death" part is the major users reducing their activity. I'd love to see some support from Facebook in promoting FriendFeed more to encourage those users to go back. Or maybe they don't want to? Regardless, bonus for me! Thanks Benjamin - you're awesome! - Jesse Stay
Jesse, fair enough but major users always did come and go. Some of the departees who left said they were doing so because there was no new development. Clearly not all development is halted. Last week Paul hinted that FF may receive a major new feature, and characterized his participation as "20% time" -- I'll take that. - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I backed down off the all caps. The group "best of" is really useful, love it. - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, I agree - I'd just like some confirmation that Facebook cares about all this so I can know whether to focus my efforts on Facebook or FriendFeed or both. - Jesse Stay
I noticed the best of on the iPhone the other day, wrote it out on a cake and then ated it. - Josh Haley
Thanks for the update Ben - AJ Batac
Jesse, I think you should focus where your users are focused. What do SocialToo users want? But if they want Facebook focus, you should still keep an eye on FriendFeed, since the future Facebook will look a lot more like FriendFeed. - Bruce Lewis
Bruce, I'm not sure we know that. - Jesse Stay
Paul Buchheit said the FB acquisition was attractive because of shared vision/direction. I would be surprised if a lot of that vision wasn't already embodied in this product right here. - Bruce Lewis
ffcode: you can do that. Here is the "Best of week" from one year ago: http://friendfeed.com/summary... - Benjamin Golub
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!! MUH HA HA - Roberto Bonini
Bret Taylor
FriendFeed API v2 officially launching - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
"Two weeks ago, we launched version 2 of the FriendFeed API in beta. Since then, we've watched how developers have been using the API and collected a lot of their feedback. We've implemented some changes, and now, we're ready to remove the beta label!" - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
A two weeks beta in the 2.0 era sounds almost blasphem! Congrats! - Simone Ruffilli
Congrats to Ben and Gary for all their hard work getting this out the door. And thanks to all the developers who have been sending us great feedback the past couple weeks. - Bret Taylor
now.we.play /-) - Nicolas Voisin
Bret - Think we'd all be interested in a longer list as more apps make use of the API. Great stuff - Charlie Anzman
Bret Taylor
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it. - Mark Trapp
very nice. great work! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-) - Jesse Stay
Great!!! - YungSang from FriendFoo
nice! - Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats! - Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope - Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages? - Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed. - Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks! - Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line? - Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget. - Mark Trapp
Thanks God it is New API. - AlpB. from iPod
Nice progress here with this release! - Micah
I love it! - friday night
Why is wget questionable? - Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle. - Mark Trapp
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create - Joe Dawson
doublepluslike - Vezquex
curl FTW. - Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job. - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-) - Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :) - Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;) - Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!! - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone - abdellah from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed! - EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key. - Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version? - Jesper Lind
Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
To Sean: THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU JOKE ABOUT GOOGLE WAVE INVITES. What? You thought I was kidding????
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YOU GET YOUR ASS ROASTED BY A GIANT ROBOT, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
That is awesome Kamilah. The robot is Mo right? - Jimminy IS Everybody
Totally worth it. - Steele Lawman
Yes, Mo asked to participate in the Ass Roasting. I wasn't really serious about it until Mo asked. Then I had to make it exist. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
LMAO, Kamilah so awesome, but you missed Sean's half-stache and goatee. Those would have made it even more awesome. - Jimminy IS Everybody
aw, shoot. I checked, but I wasn't sure about the status of his facial hair. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
This is THE. BEST. THING. ON. THE. INTERNET. EVER. *weeps for joy* - MoTO #TeamMonique
I'm tempted to lie about it just to see what I'd look like in one of your illustrations - chrisofspades
Excellent! - Katy S
LOL! Get him, Mo! Mo never misses his target! :) - directeur
The 1st pic of Audrey sneezing is so great. And I love "Pew Pew Pew." Great stuff, Kamilah! - Ayşe E.
*dumbstruck by the awesome* - Mo Kargas
Kamilah...I think I love you :) - Mo Kargas
I see the happy sloth! Cool! - Anne Bouey
Excellent! - Kol Tregaskes
So what will Kamilah, Princess Wave, sell her sketchbook for? It should be in the FriendFeed museum. - Louis Gray
Unholy mother of God! That's bad @$$ - Adrian
GOT DAMN, YOU'RE TALENTED! - Spidra Webster
oh, though sketch is good, ever had an exhibition? - testbeta
I always knew it. The first time I saw Mo Kargas on FF, I knew he could roast asses with his eyes. - Joshua
Thanks, everyone :) I don't know that I can sell the original sketchbook, it's really my personal journal. As I say from time to time, though, my goal is to do some larger drawings and paintings, and eventually I hope to sell those, I just need, like, 48 hours in a day to get everything done... it's going to happen somehow, soon. I have had some of my work exhibited at various times,... more... - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, you're here! You should subscribe to me. :) - EricaJoy
What happens if I subscribe to you, Erica? Is something in particular happening over on your feed? - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Nothing interesting happening on my feed but I bet $100 I could make your day. :) - EricaJoy
Really, now? Alright then, I'll bite... - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
What is it about giant robots? I dunno. But they are full of win. Case in point: http://tinyurl.com/ydzws8s - MoTO #TeamMonique
By the way Kamilah? I want the MoBot on a t-shirt.... Pleeeaaaasssseeee??? - MoTO #TeamMonique
Yes, giant robots are made of win. I dunno, Barry... last time I tried to make a t-shirt, people got all excited but no-one bought it (DYSP!). I might just make a design but not bother to try setting up a Spreadshirt (or whichever one it was that I used) for it. I'll have to see. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Can you do pre-oders through paypal? - MoTO #TeamMonique
I could do that somehow, I guess. I've taken payments through PayPal before. I wonder what pose the MoBot should be in? Have some source material I could work from? - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, you are truly Princess Wave! Awesome, totally awesome! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Kamilah - this very well might be the art post that makes best of day and becomes part of a meta-sketch project. :-) - Katy S
Ya, JUST for this drawing, Sean. :P And Mo. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Robots are hot stuff right now - you should add this to the Spreadshirt marketplace! - spreadshirtcom
*another bump* because I love it so. - MoTO #TeamMonique
this is great. i especially love the sloth! - edythe
Yay! Sneezy. :) - Rochelle
BUMPAGE - Mo Kargas
*bump* because it still makes me laugh and because I wish I had laser eyes like Mo... PEW PEW PEW! - MoTO #TeamMonique
and because Haggis' word balloon says "ow may ass!" - MoTO #TeamMonique
*bump* for MOTO - Katy S
Does this make it bump? - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I've got still a few Google Wave invites... anyone? - Jemm
I love this so - MoTO #TeamMonique from Android
THANKS KAMILAH! - MoTO #TeamMonique
:) Wow, how times have changed... - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
"Roast Ass" -------> "Ow! My Ass" - MoTO #TeamMonique from Android
*sagenod* - Mo Kargas
Calon
尝试列举FriendFeed比Twitter好用的地方
■ 稳定!第一条就是Twitter现在的致命伤,连Fail Whale都fail了,真是个悲剧。 ■ 速度。即使是在Twitter稳定的时候,打开它的页面也比较缓慢,相对而言,FriendFeed算得上高速了。 ■ 搜索。Twitter的官方站内搜索才刚刚有个影子,FriendFeed则是原生支持。 ■ 会话组织。虽然Twitter的@适合手机上定点交互,但参与讨论的人数一多,便只有FriendFeed的会话模式可以清晰的呈现交流内容了。 ■ FriendFeed可以直接显示图片和视频,而Twitter为了照顾手机短信用户和保持精简,顶多只能给出链接。两种模式不能说哪个就一定更好,但至少对浏览网页的用户来说,FriendFeed显然更方便。 ■ Mail2ff对中文的支持很好,而Twitter的第三方邮件发布服务还没有一个让人满意。 ■ 同样的,由于重点在手机短信,所以Twitter没有群组和标签的概念,FriendFeed则可以玩Room。 ■ 更新的时候近期的条目也会一起出现,一次发布太多条目会自动隐藏一部分,会话中的回复太多也会隐藏部分,可以显示一日、一周、一月以来的热门内容,这些细节都是严格按照时序排列的Twitter没有的。 ■ FriendFeed能够推荐好友,能够跟踪虚拟好友,能够查看简单的好友统计,而Twitter只有tweets数量统计可以拿出来说说,其他的是靠第三方服务。 ■ FriendFeed本来就以聚合其他在线服务为目的,因此导入的时候相当方便,而Twitter志不在此,除了只能导入feed,同步feed需要借助第三方服务之外,导入太多feed还可能被Twitter好友唾弃。 - Calon from email
FriendFeed的WEB 2.0味道更浓 - kang
众多的第三方支持应该算twitter的优点。 - 丁勇
可惜因为性能又不得不限制API,等于自废武功 - Calon
也要看网站流量,twitter 比 friendfeed 不知大多少倍。http://trends.google.com/website... - Jick Nan
friendfeed虽然更加丰富了web2.0功能,但是上手确更容易。用户一旦粘上就不容易丢掉,正是由于它支持的各种web2.0网站接口。 - momowind
@calon 感觉twitter以后要死就死在自己的性能上,而不会直接死在对手手上。 - 丁勇
frienfeed,快点灵活,可以自己定义来源 - 眼球博客 from Alert Thingy
friendfeed里的提问回答挺好,树状排列的层次更多就好了,twitter干净,都是键盘敲的文字,@calon说的多媒体,貌似好多类twitter服务因为提供全文而被墙,还是这样好,在墙内说着墙外的话。 - ace from twhirl
在friendfeed里加入g reader,g reader里可以twitter,这个个性主页还可以,要是g reader里可以发friendfeed信息就好了。 - ace
这些人都不来了... - 空气.sk
上次做过统计,FF还活跃的中文用户就那么三四十个了 - day7th
那统计在哪?我没参与啊(我想是不是应该开个新贴重新列举下FriendFeed的好处...) - 空气.sk
不用列了,就搜索坏的再也好不起来这一条,就让ff死了。//现在似乎又好了 - Oliveee Feeee
嗯,好吧,听O姑的 - 空气.sk
照我说FF一个好处就够了:能谈点事儿,一个话题是一颗种子,能无影无踪也能长成大树。Twitter上话题都是子弹,来无影去无踪。 - viav
歪楼党伤不起 - /sg
其实还是挖坟党更伤不起 - Oliveee Feeee
friendfeed - lion
Paul Buchheit
"Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." - http://news.stanford.edu/news...
It's hard to believe that talk happened six years ago. Passages from it so clearly memorable, i recognized it from the first six words. - John Lam from Android
Paul Buchheit
"The intrinsic path to success is to focus on being the person that you are, and to put all of your energy and drive into being the best possible version of yourself." <--This. - Derrick
This sounds like an exchange I'll never forget between a reporter and an Olympic athlete. The reporter asked where she got the discipline to train long and hard every day. The athlete's response was that what many people mistake for discipline is actually passion. It's because she really wanted to be her best. - Bruce Lewis
Off-topic, can you install tweetmeme on your blog, I would like to re-post it without too many steps ;-) - joergkurtwegner
I am finishing my last sandwich right now! - Sebastian Wain
AJ Batac
Quote of the day
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Ha.....too true. - Just Kidée: Road Warrior
So maybe it's because of the teachers that kids don't get to learn special relativity in primary school! - Meryn Stol
im agree with him - araesa
Having taught basic algebra to 6 yr olds, I completely agree. - April Russo
this is so true, and i think the original quote was 'if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough'. - Morgan
Denzel Washington says this numerous times in Philadelphia. - chrisofspades
+++ - Bluerose
I'm going to use this. - Vaughn
For me this is one of the topquotes of wisdom - Toon Kerssemakers
+++ - Bluerose
yezi
小田和正 - 突如其来的爱情,2010圣诞Live版,很正。PS.和声的姑娘貌似是松隆子? http://v.youku.com/v_show...
唉,无论何时听都让人回肠荡气的旋律啊。 - 芸窗 from Shawshank
Hi-iD
谷歌考虑全面退出中国市场-华尔街日报 ||| "谷歌(Google Inc.)表示正在评估公司中国业务运营的可行性,并可能完全退出中国市场,因为该公司透露( http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010... 声明的翻译稿:http://cn.wsj.com/gb... ),他们遭受了据信来自中国大陆的重大网络袭击。" #GoogleCN - http://chinese.wsj.com/gb...
谷歌考虑全面退出中国市场-华尔街日报 ||| "谷歌(Google Inc.)表示正在评估公司中国业务运营的可行性,并可能完全退出中国市场,因为该公司透露( http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html 声明的翻译稿:http://cn.wsj.com/gb/20100113/bog105425.asp ),他们遭受了据信来自中国大陆的重大网络袭击。" #GoogleCN
google似乎是想以退为进 - zhangyue
如果谷歌退出了,感觉就像生活在朝鲜了。 - Hi-iD
不能没有Google。。。 - Y.h.y
伊朗说伊朗网络军是民间组织,但是中国网络军则是国家队。http://news.ycombinator.com/item... - Hi-iD
该考虑下没有GOOGLE时怎么办了? - Ami
“跟它拼了!!!” - Hi-iD
淡定,自焚解决不了问题 - Ami
这可是2010年最坏的消息啦 - ashbee
有谁知道如果GOOGLE退出中国,哪有服务会有怎样的变化? - Ami
或许被墙,或许连翻墙都不能了……这些都没什么了,没有Google我们至少还能活下去,但和猪一样活和奴隶一样活,有什么意思呢?政府表面上演着戏,说什么要发展网络啦、创新啦、产业升级啦,背地里干着奴隶社会的勾当,他妈的现在我头脑中就只有一副图:影帝在哥本哈根 ( http://friendfeed.com/hiid... ) - Hi-iD
与这个伟大的不作恶网络巨头相比,GOV是如此的卑鄙无耻。 - ashbee
我觉得没有ditu.google.cn很可惜。 - woodear
google先教会每个中国人翻墙再走不迟啊!! - woodear
有没有“不喜欢”这个按钮可以点啊!!! - woodear
当然,我们的前途需要自己来努力,但是此刻真的让人悲哀,我觉得在其他国家人面前都抬不起头来,当然温家宝可以在奥巴马面前抬起他的头。 - Hi-iD
我觉得和李开复离职还是有关系的。 - woodear
“The decision to review our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, and we know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the very difficult issues raised. ”这段话很奇怪。 - woodear
“……我们需要澄清的是,这个决定是有我们美国的高层做出的,并没有我们在中国的员工的参与。因为他们无比辛勤的工作,才有google.cn今天的成功。……” - woodear
可能是套话也可能Google总部真的觉得谷歌在技术和市场上是成功的,政治和投资环境不是员工能决定的。 - yinhm
这是为了保护吧 - Ami
“For some background information: GFW research team tried heavily to crack down the SSL certificate for gmail (thus, they can censor the gmail content through GFW).” http://news.ycombinator.com/item... - Hi-iD
GFW research team。你狠! - woodear
@ami,恩,好像是。 - woodear
全民翻墙的时代到来了。 - woodear
百度出事的第二天google就爆出这样的消息,会不会有什么关系? - Ami
@ami,我本来还在想百度出事,g.cn应该会偷着乐吧,没想到没想到。 - woodear
或许巧合,或许觉得这个日子不错,不管如何,这样的摊派决定不是一个月两个月作出的吧 - Hi-iD
@wooder,没什么全民吧,在中国用google人很少,现在GOOGLE表明态度了就看政府如何回应了,敬请期待CCTV年度贺岁大片 - Ami
@ami 这个贺岁片可不好看 - ashbee
@ami,谷歌的份额还是有百分之二三十的。这30%的人怒了,也吃不消的。政府回应都不用想:赶快滚,滚得越远越好。老子不差钱。棒打落水狗。开动宣传机器继续给我批! - woodear
我觉得真的伤心的人是李彦宏。“本来还有个人分担点火力呢,现在只剩下我了。”google还可以退守山景城,我baidu这辈子就只能做太监伺候万岁爷了。 - woodear
谷歌发表声明表明态度,基本上意味这谈判破裂,以退为进到底还有多少博弈空间呢? - yinhm
@wooder,这30%是怎么统计的? - Ami
@ami,30%是咋呼咋呼,实际不到20%。谷歌份额在17%左右。http://zqrb.ccstock.cc/html... - woodear
GCD如果坚持让谷歌滚蛋,会不会导致国外投资者对中国投资环境进行全面重评,由此会不会导致投资减缓带来一系列的后果,这个就看GCD能不能承受的住。当然,比起政府下台来说什么都是可以牺牲的。。。 - yinhm
关键是我们从何处去找到在中国有意义地活下的信心,国进民退、为了利益分割可以没有任何底线地搅和……屁民就是这些人的人头币——也就是奴隶。 - Hi-iD
我覺得我們可以用IRC來繼續這個話題…… - MePine from email
栽赃谷歌涉黄,栽赃谷歌图书侵权,栽赃魔兽世界,把无数网站的机房网线拔咯,把孩子送到杨教授的戒网瘾电椅上。 - woodear
@yinhaiming 不是所有的资本都会约束自己“不做恶”的。逐利性第一的资本当然和官老爷一拍即合。此地人傻钱多速来。 - woodear
@woodear 谷歌是有审查的,只是GCD逼得太紧,米国养大的孩子受不了了而已。我理解资本的逐利性本质,但当一个拐点出现天平快要倾斜的时候谁都会多想想。 - yinhm
@yinhaiming google高层内部曾经就g.cn的审查是否违反了不作恶原则进行激烈辩论。但是最后还是举得这是本土化的一步,可以理解。我觉得中国的网民尤其能够理解。真的已经是不容易。换成的别的跨国巨头,沃尔玛比如说,沃尔玛在欧洲和美国对农产品农药残留的标准时很高的,但是到了中国,立马就入乡随俗,好像中国人的命就是贱一样。微软前一阵还在老毛诞辰的时候,把bing的主页图片换成了韶山故居拍马屁。apple的iphone该阉就阉,也没得含糊。 - woodear
今天中午准备去给谷歌送花了 - Ted GUO
@Ted GUO 帮我们FF这帮网友送一支哈 - yinhm
不是全世界都在与共党为敌,而是共党在与全世界为敌 - Baiyssy
我艹他妈共产党,我艹他妈社会主义。 - Hi-iD
本不希望看到用一種爆裂的方式解決中國網絡的問題,但現在看來事情正向這個方向發展。而且越來越快。 - MePine from email
全世界被无产者,联合起来! - Baiyssy from email
疯狂,然后灭亡。 - woodear
@woodear 我理解谷歌做出的决定以及google的努力。另外大家对google的感情和期待也自于别家不同,想来两边都能理解。 我还是那个观点,投资环境显然已经开始趋于恶劣,兔死尚且狐悲,想来别人也不是看不到。 - yinhm
A new approach to China 中文翻译 《中国新路径》,来自网易:http://tech.163.com/10... - Hi-iD
@woodear 這叫自作孽不可活。標準的。 - MePine from email
g.cn好像已经可以搜索敏感词了。大家最后爽一把吧。 - woodear
冒个泡,事关重大啊~~ - K.D.
本着和谐的大局,朝廷是不会让Google走人的,不然天下都知道它们做了什么,老外会想”是什么人把世界上这么好的公司气走了“。到那时”颜面“何在?“威信“何在?“ - ashbee
中国政府是在螳臂挡车呢 - Yang
从2009开始,中国政府已经不需要面子了,因为凭着他那些拙劣的演技,已经无法掩饰颜面了。 - Hi-iD
看到一个段子:问: 影帝会怎么自圆其说捏?答: 去google视察 挑最脏的程序员的手握住,说,我们来晚了。。 - woodear
@Hi-iD 不是很贊同。最贊同的是把他們的名單拿出來,挨個操。雖然有點累~ - MePine from email
“at least twenty other large companies have been similarly targeted” 有没有同学知道这20多个其他公司都是谁啊?这个名单如果曝光的话,应该会导致事件升级吧。 - K.D.
如果中国政府没有任何协商讨论的姿态,我想谷歌会公布更详细的资料的,或者从一些小道消息会传播出来的。 - Hi-iD
这个算是Google的一个筹码,哈哈 - yinhm
RT @shizhao RT @loihsin: 周二美国国务卿希拉里的一名顾问表示,希拉里下周将宣布一项科技政策,帮助其它国家的公民查看未被审查的互联网内容.此番言论刚出不久,谷歌即发出上述令人惊讶的声明 - woodear
我操 一觉睡醒就整个这样的 - viav
@vjay。恩我一觉没睡。 - woodear
谷歌官方博客表示考虑关闭“谷歌中国” 2010年01月13日10:34 来源:人民网-国际频道 【字号 大 中 小】 打印 留言 论坛 网摘 手机点评 纠错 E-mail推荐:   人民网北京1月13日电 (记者 董菁)美国当地时间1月12日15时,谷歌高级副总裁和首席法律顾问大卫·多姆德(David Drummond)在谷歌官方博客上发文表示,谷歌集团考虑关闭“谷歌中国”网站以及中国办事处。   该博客宣称,我们已经决定,不愿意继续审查“谷歌中国”搜索到的结果。如果有可能的话,接下来的几周里,我们将和中国政府商议,在法律允许范围内运行一个不必经过过滤的搜索引擎。如果不能达成协议,可能意味着我们将不得不关闭“谷歌中国”,甚至是谷歌中国办事处。   博客中还说,作出这个决定有着难以置信的痛苦,同时,我们也十分清楚它将可能造成的深层次影响。然而,这一决议来自谷歌美国总部的管理层,那些为了谷歌中国的成功付出努力的在华员工事先并不知情,也未参与决定。我们保证将尽责地解决可能继续出现的难题。 (责任编辑:董菁 - woodear
我也是,睡之前沉浸在百度被黑的幸灾乐祸中,醒了就悲剧了…… - Titan Ning
人民网这个好像是说,谷歌没法遵守中国的法律了,所以就撤了 - K.D.
人民网的临时工干的 - Baiyssy from email
网易报道中提到的攻击gmail邮箱,黑客潜入google公司,这些在人民网都没 - K.D.
虽然Google已经用公开声明切断了自己的退路,但是我不相信共党会有任何让步。你对流氓说,你不同意,我就死给你看!流氓只会说,那你就去死吧! - Baiyssy from email
对断章取义多好的诠释啊 - ashbee
我没有看到任何解决问题的希望,反而是越来越接近死亡的黑暗 - Baiyssy from email
没那么严重,新疆的同学们断网那么久,也能撑下来,呵呵 - K.D.
g.cn 什么时候会挂呢?1天?2天?1周? - woodear
但是毕竟提到了审查 - Baiyssy from email
华尔街日报的对Google声明的翻译:http://cn.wsj.com/gb... - Hi-iD
连岳表态,谷歌应该不会撤出中国。 http://ff.im/eeA3Y - woodear
我觉得这事之前应该通过气吧,到现在还没有G.CN内部消息呢 - Ami
一帮b写手评论员还四处叫唤把责任全推到Google身上 - ashbee
Google全面退出中国的话,谷歌音乐就没了。《德意志安魂曲》:http://www.google.cn/music... - Hi-iD
会不会有可能在韩国,日本,美国雇一群中国人来为中国市场搞开发? - woodear
“...我觉得如果能带来大量的利润就能干...冲动肯定有,但是不能冲动...或者google综合考虑觉得类似的事件使得公司事实上已经没有足够的利益动机在中国干?” 同学对google可能退出的评论……相当无语 - Titan Ning
这就是为什么我喜欢Google的地方,当别人都对你说“理想是屁”的时候,可以拿Google来作例子,也作自己的榜样。 - Hi-iD
确实没多少人理解一个公司时不用利益去衡量,尤其是在中国。所以人们总会记住那些有梦想的年代,那些成为梦想家的人。 - ashbee
我同学的那句话看得我真得非常心痛,似乎绝大多数中国人已经走上三鹿的老路了。我有点不想回国了。 - Titan Ning
因为人工审查,Google已经承受了太大的舆论压力。仅这一点就是得不偿失的 - Baiyssy from email
共产党这回可能在国际上一点脸都不要了,反正国内早就没脸了 - day7th
Ted GUO ( http://friendfeed.com/giantpa... )给谷歌献了一朵玫瑰。http://friendfeed.com/giantpa... - Hi-iD
獻花,有圖有真相: http://img.ly/mqZ - MePine from email
哈哈,没看错人。“@唐骏( http://t.sina.com.cn/tangjun ):刚才有媒体问我google副总裁说要退出中国业务。“对中国网民来说,无所谓的,退和不退,但是这将是他们做出的历史上最蠢的决定”,放弃中国等于放弃半个未来世界!”—http://t.sina.com.cn/1674184... - Hi-iD
@Titan Ning: 你的同學說的是對的。只是他說了事情的開頭,沒說事情的結尾。沒說的部分就是:長遠的利益和道義是統一的。 - MePine from email
@Baiyssy 這不是與政黨的矛盾。這只是跟這幫孫子的個人仇恨。 - MePine from email
“改变世界的不是政客..而是工程师和科技.”...哎..看来不仅仅是这样...政客还会在必要的时候跳出来..轻易毁掉工程师用科技来改变世界的努力...... - yc n
共党还要脸?它只要枪! - Baiyssy from email
政客不改变世界这句话应该仅仅对民主社会有效。民主国家的政客只是用来维持秩序,而独裁政客喜欢创造新秩序、新人类、新社会——斯大林、希特勒、毛泽东、金正日…… - Baiyssy from email
但他们所"创造"的所谓"新秩序"..却往往是大倒退...不过是从他们对历史的记忆中找出一种..穿上光鲜的新衣..就粉墨登场了... - yc n
退出?谷歌在撒娇吧! http://it.people.com.cn/GB... - K.D.
呵呵,这种调调出现了:兲朝是个大家长,谷歌不过是个任性,偶尔犯犯错误的小孩,承认错误还是有机会的~ - K.D.
看这篇文章的分析 Google likely to retreat from China (update),说谷歌退出中国既不是一个商业决定,也不是一个道德决定,很可能是一个政治决定。 http://www.web2asia.com/2010... - K.D.
@校内 陳堃 :消息确凿:目前谷歌中国的员工已经不允许访问任何代码,实习生也已经停止一切工作,正式员工全部可以带薪休假,Google退出中国几成定局。 - ashbee
百度首席产品设计师孙云丰:整个事情给我的唯一感受就是恶心:http://hi.baidu.com/whomi... // 哈哈,这个也没看错。 - Hi-iD
@lackarzhao RT @yinhm: RT: @joecai: funny, http://www.baidu.tw/ //这个太搞了... - ashbee
为什么我有一点为Google高兴呢? - albertpkmn
@albertpkmn 或许是“Google,如果你一定要走,我绝对支持你!我希望的是一个纯爷们,而不是一个阉割版的太监!” - ashbee
退就退呗。又不是google.com我倒是非常讨厌并且排斥谷歌并且拒绝承认谷歌是Google的 - tianhou
不过google不过是给自己找了幌子而已,又不是今天才知道受攻击,为啥现在才说,其实还不就是谷歌在中国混的太差而已,抢不到他想要的客户,还得罪了之前的客户,亏大发啦~ - tianhou
@tianhou 月光博客:Google在中国2008年收入为2.1亿美元,Google全球收入为218亿美元,谷歌中国收入不及Google全球收入百分之一,Google退出中国市场对其营收没有任何影响。中国市场这个招牌,或许这次没有那么灵了 - ashbee
google.cn已经什么都能查到了,比如http://is.gd/6b2nb - Ami
google即使物理上撤出大陆,仍然可以通过提供特定带宽的方式维持google.com对中国用户的服务。然后我们可以期待google.com被GFW,然后全世界都会知道,这无疑让致力于改善自己国际形象的中国政府相当的为难。现在FTchina就是这样做的,就是直接地按照自己的原则刊载文章,看你中共什么时候封我,封了我回头我就去告诉全世界你这么干了,铁证如山。随着越来越多的知名网站得到这样的待遇,GFW的存在也就越脆弱,民众也会越来越清醒。 - viav
彻底决裂了 - Baiyssy from email
@ashbee, 那还得看谷歌的运营成本是多少啊,再拖下去就不是亏一点点的问题了,再说啦,拿2008年的数字来说也不准确,2009年才关键呢,再说2.1是收入可不是税后利润,这个数字又是多少呢?任何一个办企业的人如果基于“我有钱,不怕亏”的理念来运营企业,那就好直接回家喝老婆的洗脚水了,还真把Google的投资人当摆设啊 - tianhou
vjay太乐观了。中共早已不那么注意国际形象了 - Baiyssy from email
@ tianhou 上个月中旬发现受到攻击,经过一个月调查、考虑以及裕美国政府、其他公司的协调,今天发布不算慢了,何来“现在才说”?混得不好是现实,但是不是主要原因,主要原因是为什么顶住这么大的压力还是混不好 - Baiyssy from email
@Baiyssy 你们真天真 - tianhou
请楼上赐教什么叫天真 - viav
看来tianhou翻的不是墙。 - ashbee
“天真”?我知道:http://www.youtube.com/watch... :D:D - Hi-iD
GoogleCN - lion
是的,政府已经不讲“面子”了,这是去年一年我觉得最大的一个变化,一个很爱面子的人如果解放不了,只能走向不要面子,最后就是金二胖。面子总归是虚饰,就看背后更有力量的东西了。 - Hi-iD
现在这一贴是 iDESIGN 评论数最多的帖子了,第二评论最多是上次Google服务被墙,超过100的总共三条:http://friendfeed.com/search... - Hi-iD
谷歌cn的命運如何呢?很快被拔掉網線 - lion
真难过~~ - haibao li
路透华盛顿1月12日电—美国国务卿希拉里的一名顾问告诉路透,希拉里将於下周宣布一项技术政策,以帮助其他国家的公民获得未经审查的网络资源。有没有谁知道应该是什么技术? - Ami
以前提过一个“rss+email”的方式,就如同用邮件订阅iDESIGN一样,但如果Gmail等上不了,这是空谈,因为你不能信任任何其他国内的邮箱。不过应该不是这。 - Hi-iD
没有中央节点的实时bt?想起来很美妙的样子 - Baiyssy from email
目前似乎只有tor还靠谱一点。或者是增强版的界门?现在很多人不用界门还是因为不放心,以后有美国联邦政府背书,可以大展拳脚了 - Baiyssy from email
现在才看到新闻,omg - Oliveee Feeee
现在已经不叫新闻了 - Baiyssy from email
就安全性来说,Tor是最好的,但是很多人的Tor很慢(我倒基本在200K以上),而且Tor相对比较难封。自由门之类为了流量考虑,很多视频网站都看不了,而且看不了成人网站,Tor都可以,Puff免费版会因为使用人数增多而速度下降,需要快速买个收费版或者其他VPN之类。我一般用Tor。 - Hi-iD
tor下载有时候还快,但是浏览网页,尤其是看YouTube非常慢。你什么情况能连到200k? - Baiyssy from email
http://www.china-week.com/html... 这片文章值得一看 - Ami
网上有人说赶紧设计“纪念Google“T恤,卖疯,哈哈 - Ami
zz 有一个国家,从太空俯瞰,永远是鸡形的 - woodear
不管如何,追求理想和理想本身一样是不可质疑的,悲愤一天够了。 - Hi-iD
刚在校内转了一圈,大家的状态向着谷歌的多,职责的声音很少很少。另外,大家都在热衷于搜索“纳米比亚 胡”以及“平安保险 温家宝”,另外不少人说献花已经变成违法的了…… - Titan Ning
g.cn搜索敏感词可能会被重置 - Baiyssy from email
我写的《Google那盘很大的棋》,为什么美国从支持思科建GFW转变为支持Google反对审查? https://friendfeed.com/baiyssy... - Baiyssy from email
什么?思科和GFW有美国在背后支持?! - Oscar Tong
我有个问题,美国为什么会怕独裁国家? - Ami
思科建GFW你应该知道吧?那么美国政府也不可能不知道。它有没有支持还不清楚,但是至少是默许了的。至于原因,可能美国当时认为一个和谐稳定的中国更符合它的利益,而现在,美国觉得继续支持这种和谐会把自己置于巨大的风险之中。 - Baiyssy from email
如此说来老美真的触到了共党的G点 - ashbee
二战和冷战的教训。独裁国家的政策是不可预测的,没有人知道斯大林、毛泽东什么时候死,所以没人知道政策何时剧变,也没人知道剧变会造成什么影响(当然朝鲜这样的小国即使剧变也没什么影响)。另外,近代史上,民主国家之间从未宣战,所以独裁被认为是战争的来源之一。强大的独裁国家是世界不稳定的根源,美国显然不希望这种状况发生 - Baiyssy from email
其实不太理解中文谷歌没有到底会怎样,没觉得会有什么影响,有英文google就足够了,那些服务也不过就是没了中文翻译而已吧? - Oliveee Feeee
如果按阴谋论来说,大公司们倒是盼着战争呢 - Ami
战争的风险太大了,打伊拉克还行,打中国,那些大公司想钱想疯了也不会这么干 - Baiyssy from email
Google三巨头的争论——A Heated Debate at the Top :http://online.wsj.com/article... (收费版,免费阅读请用 google news 搜索 A Heated Debate at the Top 点击进入:http://news.google.com/news... )/// wsj 上另外一篇文章 Google Gets On the Right Side of History Google站在历史正确的一面:http://online.wsj.com/article... Rebecca MacKinnon ( http://friendfeed.com/rebecca... )写的,推荐阅读。 - Hi-iD
说Sergey Brin想撤出中国,而Eric Schmidt想留在中国,这还是有点混淆视听啊:) - K.D.
不需要打中国,要削弱只要让中国人自己打自己就好了,这是我看的书里普遍的说法,自然中央也很清楚这点。 - viav
谣言:"转水木,中国政府要求在中国境内开设的电子邮件服务提供商必须给政府开一个后门,供查阅电子邮件内容,不给开后门的就滚蛋。美帝威胁Google总部,称如果谷歌中国把后门向中国政府披露,将侵犯个人基本权利,美国将在本土对Google发起讼诉。在这种情况下谷歌没别的选择只能从中国撤退。"—— http://twitter.com/duck_19... 不管真假,应该使用我们信任的邮箱,比如 Gmail 而不是国内任何其他邮件服务,不管你用邮箱干什么。 - Hi-iD
@vjay,全世界都可以用这个方法,也都用过这个方法 - Ami
所以啊,像我这种小力薄儒看到的是必须用民主制度上阻止这种未来,中国无论如何都不要再有武装革命,但目前这无疑是比较弱势的主张。像强国党之流则看到的是必须用"人民民主专制"和对外扩张来达到同样目的,谁站在路上就革命谁。依我看google也看到了这种冲突的未来,与其委曲求全一步一步被中共逼成婊子,倒不如自己立个牌坊全身而退,不去参合这乱局。 - viav
那篇三巨头有中文版:http://cn.wsj.com/gb... wsj的专题:http://cn.wsj.com/gb... - Hi-iD
撇开商业,从道德上来说,施密特一贯看法是谷歌在中国可以去改变一些现实,忍气吞声,而布林则看不到这个希望。从这几年来看,我也认为希望不大,而无论是进还是退,没有那一招比现在这一招更具威力,或许政府都不知道怎么办了。 - Hi-iD
可以将 唐骏( http://t.sina.com.cn/tangjun )之流来同 Larry Page 和 Sergey Brin 比较一下,不去谈论道德(因为它有时是不能谈的),就可以比较一下眼界,从这些中国所谓的精英层中可以看出我们社会的现状。 - Hi-iD
可以肯定是他不会站在Google一边,也不会为普通大众考虑,他只是一个商人。或者是个胆小的人,因为一旦站在Google一边那他以后的日子恐怕就难了。 - ashbee from IM
真好笑,现在一帮人口口声声叫嚷着“法律” - ashbee from IM
中国网民:鲜花送谷歌:http://cn.wsj.com/gb... 这也是中国去年一年中看到的最大的变化(或许可以追溯到厦门PX游行),从网上到网下的微行动(不是上访、游行,而是一些有创意的或者说快乐的安全的行为)。 - Hi-iD
“中国最早的博客作者之一毛向辉(Isaac Mao)说,……谷歌撤离中国可以使它得以运用自己的技术专长为用户开发出能绕开互联网审查的工具;谷歌拥有足够的运算能力实现这一目标。” http://cn.wsj.com/gb... 强烈期待谷歌推出翻墙工具! - viav
我觉得推出翻墙工具比现在的摊牌更像网络战争。 - Hi-iD
跟TM黑客帝国似的 - Ami
你们就继续神话谷歌吧,估计谷歌死了比爹妈死了还难过,被人当枪使还觉得自己TMD是斗士,呸 - tianhou
@tianhou,我们愿意执迷不悟,你走吧,出门右拐人民日报社,慢走不送。 - Titan Ning
我决定订阅tianhou - viav
估计是个阴谋论者 - Ami
我走不走关你屁事 - tianhou
即使存在阴谋。 在言论自由,公民权利方面也是有积极意义的 - ashbee from IM
希望谷歌开发翻墙工具不现实,谷歌毕竟是商业公司,这种出钱出力还不讨好政府(比如天朝)的事情谁干啊。 - yinhm
但可以从其他间接的方式,比如以前Google推出了加速工具 Google Web Accelerator 以及Gear 等都可以间接起作用。再怎么说,只要是倡导信息自由,在中国,对我们来说都是有直接帮助的。 - Hi-iD
以GFW的反应速度,如果不是有针对性开发的工具,效果有限。像Google Web Accelerator最终难逃厄运。不过可以通过第三方基金会等来提供经济上的支援。 - yinhm
现在 https 下的 reader 效果不错啊,呵呵。 - Hi-iD
对,信息自由才是关键,人民才会开化,我在怀疑下周希拉里所说的”政策“就是对这方面组织的一些扶持,那这事就真的大了 - Ami
我沒明白tianhou同學為什麼急了…… - MePine from email
我也很期待希拉里下周的表现。现在这事已经上升到外交的高度,相信等着看的人很多吧,包括美国的投资者。 - yinhm
如果美国政府出面,效果显然是不一样的。不过我对“技术政策”一词表示疑问。这个词很可能不是表示一种已经有的甚至是正在开发的技术,而只是一种鼓励这种技术的政策而已。所以,我们期望的东西可能不会那么快出现 - Baiyssy from email
一旦上升到国家的层面,估计国内很多人的态度都会转变,”爱国“是一个很强大的词,你看美国那个法律都叫《爱国者法案》,”爱国“,多强大的词 - Ami
爱国,上人民网。 搜索,用人民搜索引擎。 - xia
还是不要上升到国与国的层面,最担心的就是这个,一到这个地步就什么事也变的没有意义。我有点无政府主义 - ashbee
我现在最期待的是中国政府的回应,和宣传机器的表态。 现在宣传机器完全沉默,不符合我的预期 - xia
有回应啊,去环球网http://www.huanqiu.com/zhuanti... - Ami
其实看人民网、新华社上各种记者、专家,或者业界的其他牛人对Google批评的言论,不外乎就是“中国是个很赚钱的市场,谷歌这样做不聪明”、“谷歌这样对不起中国合作伙伴、对不起中国员工,对不起中国网民”,这反而让我感觉到他们对谷歌的退出是有恐惧的。 - albertpkmn
gmail 安全检查步骤 http://docs.google.com/View... - Ami
有谁知道怎么批量删除163的邮件? - Baiyssy from email
专家造势开始~复旦大学 沈逸: 谷歌高调宣布退出中国 想吓唬谁?http://www.news365.com.cn/jj... - K.D.
中国政府回应了:“中国外交部发言人姜瑜说,中国欢迎国际网络商到中国依法经营,互联网在中国是开放的,中国政府鼓励互联网发展,努力创造有利环境。中国政府反对任何形式的网络攻击活动。”——http://twitter.com/roseluq... 并出现这样的传言:“接上级要求,网站嵌入谷歌搜索的,改成百度,看起来不妙。 #GoogleCN ”—— http://twitter.com/qiezi... - Hi-iD
垃圾跳蚤纷纷出来现世献宝了 - Ted GUO
批量删除163邮件?把邮件全部移到inbox,然后全部让gmail从163的pop3收信就行了 - Ted GUO
我是要删掉。现在一次只能删除一页,最多100封,我有两万多封要删 - Baiyssy from email
@楼上,你设定outlook express去收信,然后开着电脑放一晚就好了。 - viav
不用收信,找个可以远程删信的客端即可,如 PopMan http://www.ch-software.de/popman... - 落后青年李三海
开始和谐献花了:http://friendfeed-media.com/0464e4b... - Hi-iD
撤吧 不想看到被阉割的GOOGLE - zl1com from IM
下周去北京出差,就住google那楼旁边的酒店,老子也去鲜花! - viav
文津国际啊 - Ami
对啊,楼上近水楼台,打算去鲜花吗? - viav
唉,现在流落在江南一带,远啊 - Ami
弱弱的问一句,为什么有些网站连翻墙也看不了?而且并非是因为网站不存在...... - wanderid from email
成人网站吧?:D 换不同的工具试试,比如puff Tor等。 - Hi-iD
说起翻墙,依稀记得 friendfeed 还没有完全被墙,但是在二级目录中首字母e被墙的情形,不断重新发图片,以躲避被随机以e开头。现在想起来,真是比便秘还难受,不像现在痛痛快快。 - Hi-iD
有意思啊,rt @keso 谷歌替代版来了 http://search.cctv.com/ - K.D.
我觉得哦,别”你们“”我们“的。你我他,每个人都不同。tianhou的到来不是坏事。是不是在”神话谷歌“,是不是”被当枪使“,是不是”真天真“,我觉得都可以讨论啊。 - woodear
百度孙云丰:Google市侩,我感到恶心 http://www.bullock.cn/blogs... - woodear
一篇Blog文而已,居然这么大动静。谁敢说,Blog已死。 - 【无声胜有声】
@Hi-iD 哈哈, 前段时间我也在推上说还有没有人记得 friendfeed.com/e 这个关键词... 还好FF官方迅速推出了全局 https, 现在我也能用 Hosts 上FF了... - Ratoo
此blog非彼blog - Baiyssy from email
中新网上,大部分人对这篇文章的反应时愤怒和搞笑 - Baiyssy from email
呵呵,只要看看为其辩护的人的说辞就可以看出原文的立场,我还不知道当自己的伙伴或者好朋友被人哄自己下意识会采取怎样的行动,当然我现在非常讨厌这种“义气”,尤其是当辩护者不是真的从内容去辩护的时候,我想我如果做不到让自己朋友在当时去认识其自己的问题所在,应该还是沉默吧。在 #GoogleCn 这件事中我觉得不能上升或者下降到道德层面上,信息自由、公开开放在道德之上,而一些基本的问题就不能从道德上去批判,比如百度孙云丰的文章,我只要看到他封闭的心态和狭隘的视角,就足以让我从书签栏上把百度拿下而不尽量不使用它(一天没用,感觉良好,我以前使用百度还是很多的),因为我觉得这样的心态和眼界是做不出让我满意的产品的。 - Hi-iD
我在热带,更远 - Baiyssy from email
@ Baiyssy 我也在热带,东南亚~ :) - Titan Ning
gmail里多了项“More Google Mail security ” - ashbee
国内网民逐渐分化成两拨。本土派因为语言和网速的关系虽然现在也很少访问外国网站,但在百度和环球的带领下会逐渐认为世界上大部分的网站都开在中国,而“正常网速”应该是2M以上,看视频要流畅,下载要爽。因此费神去上外国网站是毫无价值的,更何况那里还充斥着反华言论。翻墙派在很长时间里将不得不忍受1M左右的“正常网速”,甚至越来越慢也有可能——既然“大部分网民都表示不经常需要访问国外网站“,那么电信集团也可以光明正大地拒绝升级海底光缆——其实也没多大关系,会有很多出国带宽从本土派那边流出,因为他们根本没地方可去了。 - viav
我想说的还是:操你妈了个逼。 - jiang-design
那样的话,接下来会有脑残和美奸之间的不断血拼,呵呵。 - Hi-iD
原来都习惯忍一下,将就着过的人,最后都被逼着翻墙了,翻墙派的阵营只会越来越大。甚至那些我称之为小屁孩的人,一样会因为魔兽世界被删节,大片不上映等种种原因寻求与外面的世界接触,而且他们学习翻墙绝对是手到擒来。说得简单点就是现在的中国人不像以前那么好糊弄了,政府只能靠拉拢那些贪图利益或极端民族主义的技术人员来维持局面,这是光天化日下重蹈国民党覆辙的烂棋。 - viav
ZF现在最怕的不是小P孩,而是拖家带口的中年工作者和基层干部,只要他们不需要接触外界就可以了。至于小P孩们,等他们结婚成家后会融入这个社会,慢慢会变得无所谓。当年的50后、60后也曾经觉得自己不好糊弄呢。 - 落后青年李三海
这就是那个猴子抢香蕉的故事。我爸妈看到我写的东西简直恨不得杀了我 - Baiyssy from email
我还在等着用google的操作系统呢!!! - jiang-design
@ Baiyssy,为什么? - Ami
谷歌退出给国内致力于专业发展的人才带来了不少纠结,连 Google 都没信心坚持下去,又该何去何从?出国?沉沦(等同自杀)?坚信野草终会迎来春天?从这一个笑话:“网易、腾讯、百度、谷歌等几个用枪逼着趴在一起在中国吃屎。某天,一直捂着鼻子吃屎的谷歌终于爆发了:“臭死了,老子不吃了。”网易的眉头皱了一下,腾讯好像听到了,好像没听到。百度听到了,偷偷朝谷歌那边挪了一下,把谷歌那份屎扒到自己面前继续吃.” 可以写出一部《蛆的狂欢国》 - Hi-iD
不觉得网易腾讯是被逼的在吃屎 还有 你发此贴时我正在吃午饭 - zl1com from IM
上午看到新闻,Google退出的应该只是搜索服务,gmail,gmap……应该会保留下来。 - ashbee from email
那当然,中文搜索也会继续,只不过要杀要刮就看中国政府了(正常使用和翻墙使用)。 - Hi-iD
这下又会有帮傻逼跳出来了 - Ami
谷歌退出中国的商业逻辑:http://gaofeiblog.blog.sohu.com/1421795... 我喜欢这样的视角,历来讨厌以道德作为立足点,比如谷歌精神高尚,要说高尚,原则比道德更高尚。 - Hi-iD
@ami 你去我的blog看看可能就可以理解了 baiyssy.blogspot.com - Baiyssy from email
baiyssy,不能让爸妈这么担心啊,哈哈。 - K.D.
@Baiyssy,我家里的情况正好相反 - Ami
Google百度和谷歌的那些事 (virushuo):http://blog.devep.net/virushu... - Hi-iD
Google给我们的最大价值,除了信息流动加速,就是信息永存。当我写完这篇blog,发布在我的blog上,按下"发布"之后的几分钟,各种蜘蛛就会蜂拥而至,把这篇文章复制若干次,存在这世界的各个角落。这文章即永存。无法被某个组织控制或删除,也无法阻止其流动。公关公司不行,某个国家政府也不行。孙云丰的言论,和百度其他员工的言论,也将和这篇文章一样,被永存,成为历史的一部分。这是我们热爱Google的原因。-----------好文 - zl1com from IM
Google Docs 现在可以上传分享任何格式的文件了。http://www.google.com/google-... - Hi-iD
Google百度和谷歌的那些事 http://blog.devep.net/virushu... - Hi-iD 这篇很赞 - viav
永存夸张了,我几年前发布在wallop上的文章现在网上怎么也找不到了,最后还是我的本地硬盘上有个备份 - Baiyssy from email
谷歌中国正式解散 传国务院今晚开会研究处罚http://www.techweb.com.cn/news... - Ami
文章现在已经删除了 - Hi-iD
我觉得公开处罚不靠谱,找什么理由啊 - Ami
莫须有 - albertpkmn
上面最在行的就是找理由 - zl1com from IM
老罗说这些做网站的喜欢自我阉割,没事就阉一阉,阉多了就有快感了。不知道这个网站是受命于上,还是又一次的自我阉割了........ - wanderid from email
国务院要以什么罪名处罚谷歌? - viav
“不听党的话” - Hi-iD
在中国混,就得跟着裆中央 - Ami
欲加之罪,何需有辞? - Baiyssy from email
RT @gonewater: 对不起,刚才再次求证过了,谷歌中国正式解散的消息应该不可靠。稍候我将放出详细理由。#GoogleCN - Ami
自我审查,每个人都会有,尤其是在国内这样的环境下生活。我觉得有些有必要一步步纠正,而这里墙外恰好可以自由表达,比如语言上的,不必去用缩略语或者其他晦涩的词语代替,共产党就共产党,土共就土共,法轮功就法轮功,我说的话我负责,公开的,这里和墙内不同的是,不会被一级级审查给删除,更重要的是隐私就是隐私,不像在国内邮件或者QQ上你所有的隐私都被监视甚至当作证据,没有公开和隐私之分。共产党和政府总是来阴的,人们也不敢公开,连移民的发表看法都要求匿名,详细见这:http://news.ycombinator.com/item... 看看大家的讨论。 - Hi-iD
这篇文章和GOOGLE无关,但是写得太有意思了,所以分享了《啼笑皆非的“鸦片战争”》 http://www.bullogger.com/blogs... - Ami
链接后加空格。tdtw 的文章都非常好看。 - Hi-iD
“到今天,中国除了经济与科学技术有所进步,愚昧闭塞、弱小落后、自作聪明、自以为是这几点,相对清朝而言几乎没有实质性的改变,对现代文明规则毫无尊重接纳之意,对外国仍视其为亡我之心不死,对本国的理解也不过停留在“风水轮流转,咸鱼也翻身”的水准,事实上,从清朝的故事里,我们还是可以看出大量现今现实的影子。” ——跟当今真是有几分神似。http://www.bullogger.com/blogs... - Hi-iD
无间道。http://www.brookswelding.com/ 以下的真相,如果你有怀疑,如果你觉得其他的说法才是真的,那么请你解释这样一个事实: Google总部在声明退出中国之后,立刻取消了所有中国工程师访问Google代码服务器的权限。 他们都是在上班后发现服务器的home目录进不去了。事先根本没有通知。 很多人写到一半的代码,就没法动了,要等几个礼拜之后,调动到美国才能继续写 如果Google是有预谋的撤离,为什么要采取这种手段?他完全可以让员工继续工作,做一些善后工作。 比方说现在Google music,中国公司和美国做的是不一样的(music.google.cn 和 music.google.com)现在要取消中国的music了,完全可以让中国的工程师来做这个代码迁移的工作。 现在是中国的工程师全部带薪休假,由老外来接手善后事宜。... more... - woodear
如果Google的源代码这么容易被偷走,Google早完蛋了。任何企业都不可能这么草率地对待自己最重要的、赖以生存的资源。如果真是这样,不说政府间谍,就是竞争对手,要派一个卧底进去,是不是也太简单了?这样完全信任雇员,不是诚信的问题,而是智力的问题。而我不敢怀疑Google管理者的智力水平 - Baiyssy from email
这是专门用来爆料的网站,1月10注册的域名。//这个域名以前被注册过(http://74.125.77.132/search... ),可能后来报废了吧 - Hi-iD
源代码被窃看似是肯定的(Google Hack Attack Was Ultra Sophisticated, New Details Show :http://www.wired.com/threatl... [Wired])从twitter上来看是谷歌上海内部。而党员这一情节真让故事生动,如果属实,对一些学生朋友尤其想进外企的可能有个参照例子了。 - Hi-iD
我党从一开始就是苏联最大的间谍组织之一第三国际的派出机构。玩间谍、特工、秘密警察的本事,基本上是下意识的,而且青出于蓝。 - Ted GUO
这篇揭秘从文学上来推测则有点不可信任,但是在这里什么都可能是现实。 - Hi-iD
文章更新了,得,成谍战小说了 - Ami
除非是级别很高的技术大拿,大公司极少能跨 group 访问源码的,而且 Gmail 又是 Google 这么重要的产品...我怀疑某地下D猿可能只是有企图但很快就被发现了。从公司正常渠道我不太相信 g.cn 有访问 Gmail 源码的权限,看看 g.cn 做的产品比如拼音输入法就知道 g.cn 的技术水平如何,真有本事的人早奔总部了,谁会留在 g.cn - 落后青年李三海
Eric Schmidt 接受新闻周刊的访谈:http://www.newsweek.com/id... - Hi-iD
话说,怎么还没动静啊? - albertpkmn
在开会吧。另外一篇关于Google以及孙云丰的文章《利益与伦理:再谈google和百度》:http://www.bullock.cn/blogs... 我倾向喜欢阅读专业人士去谈论大众的问题,在中国现在可以缩小到—相比文化人的文章我更喜欢理科生谈论文科问题,我想一个原因是在中国无论文科还是理科、专业还是大众的基本太不专业了(所以理科和专业的人看起来更显专业),另外那些所谓大众知识分子实在太逊了。 - Hi-iD
谷歌输入法是一个大大的污点。不原谅。 - woodear
fuck!那个什么脑残CCTV搜索,CCTV就是中国政府的喉舌,你想,在上面能搜出什么东西来? - wanderid from email
现在的中国,真的很让人疑惑到底是在进步,还是在退步...... - wanderid from email
一百年来,除了皇位世袭制名义上被取消以外,政治方面没有任何进步。实际上,现在十年换一次独裁者,某种意义上还不如世袭。如果你的皇位死后传给你儿子,你还是会努力地把国家治理好,并且选最有能力的儿子来继承。如果你还没死就被迫传给(即使是你指定的)别人,治不治理好反正也就十年,你还必须设置各种障碍来防着你的继承人可能对你造成的威胁,最现实的手段之一就是找一个没有能力的平庸之辈。中国现在就是这么个状况 - Baiyssy from email
按照唐德刚的说法,这叫做非继承性的寡头政治不如继承性寡头政治。 - Zhou
Google 事件最糟糕的结果就是维持现状 - albertpkmn
维持现状的话,Google和美国政府岂不是很没有面子? - Baiyssy from email
所以是最糟的啊~ - albertpkmn
韩寒 http://blog.sina.com.cn/s... 我只是在猜想(2010-01-17 03:57:25) 标签:杂谈 2010年 中国开展互联网整治活动,活动口号为“三天不打,上房揭瓦”。 2010年 相关部门扩大屏蔽词词库,汉字“档”和英文字母“D”在大陆消失。当当网和豆瓣网被迫改名为肮肮网和藕瓣网。 2010年6月 政府启动“保护儿童“项目,儿童节被提到和国庆节相同的位置,并且宣布,严格限制一切不利于少年儿童健康成长的资讯。同时,上海世博会提出“世博会,世博会,捉奸在床一万对”的口号,线上线下同时启动扫黄项目,政府明确表示,一切和黄色有关的东西,都将被屏蔽,黄色代表色情和封建。小学生们都被发动了起来,纷纷走上街头,表示不放过一切黄色的东西。 2010年7月... more... - woodear
不知道是真是假,忽惊闻GOOGLE公司将推行全球卫星无线上网(原帖见《自由时报》编译胡立宗/综合报导),Google公司将与其他公司合作发射卫星,届时赤道两侧南北纬5度范围内将可通过接收装备实现自由无线上网,并将在未来推行至全球范围,如此,将有更加方便快捷的上网方式,更加迅速稳定的上网速度,更加低廉便宜的上网费用。http://www.dapenti.com/blog... - Ami
@ami,以前讨论过一次卫星的事情 http://ff.im/6c43s ,没想到这么快就。。。不敢这么乐观。 - woodear
不管结果如何(好像这几天有人再说谷歌妥协了),中国对外的技术交流将被蒙上阴影,无论是输入还是输出,希望以互联网拉动创新的梦想也被打破,环境恶劣,只有缓慢从草野自下而上一步步前进。无论前面传言是否是真,学生朋友们需明确入党这个选择也将影响到将来你做什么。 - Hi-iD
这个好像科幻了一点。如果卫星能行,3G不是都要去吃屎了? - Baiyssy from email
卫星上网这是有可能,但google目前没理由来做吧 - day7th
http://3.ly/81h 工信部副司长要求:做好Android平台发展工作。囧大了。这到底是想HTC伸橄榄枝还是向google? - woodear
Android和HTC没什么关系吧?中国政府政出多门是有名的,而且也经常使用又拉又打的手段 - Baiyssy from email
@baiyssy,场合是“首届海峡两岸Android技术及产业合作发展会”,感觉刚想对HTC喊话。 - woodear
现在的真相是神马? - wipo
现在是消息满天飞。唯一的事实是g.cn的过滤又开了。http://www.google.cn/search... - woodear
真相或许永远不清,但我们已经看到了《The Good, the Bad and the Ugly》(http://www.douban.com/subject... ) - Hi-iD
一篇分析《我所知道的——关于Google退出中国的真相》:http://lanxi.blog.techweb.com.cn/archive... - Hi-iD
什么是“国家九部委发布的13项技术标准”?具体内容谁知道? - Ami
@ami,我想起了前段时间公司的一条IT简讯,让员工们不要用公司的代理出口访问“中国政府不允许访问的网站如youtube等”,我当时就火大了,差点发一封群发中国区的邮件去问他们哪里可以找到这么一份“中国政府不允许访问的网站”的名单。 - viav
这里的评论一边倒啊,google这么反常,背后肯定有很不寻常的真相,大家这么急着定罪干嘛 - Yan
谷歌单方面取消Gphone在华合作计划:http://business.caing.com/2010-01... - Hi-iD
@Yan:無論Google如何,大家對D都受夠了 - albertpkmn
据法新社消息,当地时间18日下午,在宣布退出中国市场、员工停止工作一周后,美国网络巨头谷歌再次表示在中国的业务恢复正常运转。 - Ami
难道要逼我抵制Google? - albertpkmn
当时我就吓哭了,有兴趣的同学可在Google map里输入“94.17217222E,42.655625N”;“94.26648611E,42.65985833N”;“94.14704444E,42.45335556N”;“94.243125E,42.46101389N”;“94.32319167E,42.54462222N” - Ami
http://googlechinablog.com/2010... 澄清不实的传言 2010年1月19日 下午 06:03:00 发表者:刘允 杨文洛 过去几天里,我们看到有很多关于谷歌中国以及谷歌员工的不真实的传言,一些报道称我们已经关闭了在中国的办公室,还有一些报道称我们在中国的员工已经接到通知将于近期离职。这些都是不真实的。目前,谷歌中国的员工同过去一样在办公室正常工作,讨论产品开发,与客户进行沟通。尽管谷歌总部管理层近期宣布他们将会在未来的几个星期与中国政府就一些事宜进行商讨,谷歌中国的员工们仍在一如既往地努力向我们的用户和合作伙伴提供最好的产品和服务,用户和合作伙伴对谷歌是非常重要的。 - woodear
说陈永正可能要接管 - Ami
@ami, 那个好像是军用机场导航用的。 - woodear
查了一下,完全是当时个人崇拜的产物,“1960年2月,人类历史上最大的标语终于出现在巫峡之巅,占地6000平方米(差不多15个篮球场)的“毛主席万岁!当时正是闹饥荒的时候。 - Ami
google maps 上面的毛XX万万岁应该不是在巫峡,而是新疆某处。 - 落后青年李三海
http://www.google.com.my/ google马来西亚。我笑了。^ ^ - woodear
@woodear 这边华人很多很多的,所以有个中文页面是很正常的,以前google malaysia都是用英语的,现在推出了中文和马来语 - Titan Ning
@Titan Ning. 我这个笑是真的开心了!想到gfw那帮人气得直跺脚,我就开心。中文用得越来越多,互联网上中文的内容也越来越多,我看它能封到哪天。秋后的蚂蚱。 - woodear
@woodear,不对……我刚才试了一下,显示中文貌似是因为我们对google的默认语言设定,当我进到马来语的google以后,华语的选项就不见了,只有英语和马来语…… - Titan Ning
希拉里果然只说了个“技术政策”,对我们真正有用的东西还远着呢 - Baiyssy from email
克林顿国务卿关于互联网自由的讲话:http://www.america.gov/st... - Hi-iD
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/chn... 外交部发言人马朝旭就美国国务卿克林顿有关“互联网自由”演讲涉华内容答记者问 2010/01/22 问:美国国务卿克林顿21日就“互联网自由”问题发表演讲,其中谈到中国互联网管理政策,认为中方限制互联网自由,请问中方对此有何评论? 答:美方指责中国的互联网管理政策,影射中国限制互联网自由。对于这种违背事实、损害中美关系的言行,我们坚决反对。 中国互联网是开放的,中国也是互联网发展最活跃的国家,到去年底,中国网民达3.84亿,网站达368万个,博客1.8亿。中国宪法保护公民的言论自由,推动互联网的发展是我们的一贯政策。中国有自己的国情和文化传统,中国对互联网坚持依法管理,符合世界通行做法。... more... - woodear
为什么为什么为什么为什么就一定一定一定要说谎话? - woodear
终于,官方开始反攻了。Google到底发生了什么?政府这样不惜一切的保护所谓的“稳定”,稳定就真得那么重要么? - Titan Ning
对既得利益者来说,没有比稳定更重要的了 - Baiyssy from email
好多人都说,不稳定,最终受害的是老百姓,这算好“死”不如赖活着么……? - Titan Ning
往往把“老百姓”放在首位来作为推脱,而不是“个人”,这些人在一定程度上是专制社会的机器人,就像 Apple 1984 (http://www.youtube.com/watch... ) 里走过管道天桥的那些人,他的思想他的知识他的行为都是被灌输的,只是一具躯体,他们对“个人”只有一个概念——就是偷偷摸摸。 - Hi-iD
据英国《金融时报》报道,谷歌在向美国证券交易委员会提交的材料中表示,公司两位创始人拉里·佩齐(Larry Page)和塞吉·布林(Sergey Brin)计划在未来5年内各出售500万股该公司股票。 出售绝大多数手中持有的谷歌股份意味着,这两位创始人将正式放弃对谷歌的控制。早在11年前,两人曾是斯坦福室友时就共同创立了谷歌。。------更新-------how much they’ll have left? That’s the crazy thing…. even $5.5 Billion later they’ll have 48% ownership of the company. Plus Eric Schmidt’s 10% and the trio can still do pretty much whatever they want.卖掉500万股公司的股票后,这两位仍然拥有48%的股份。再加上Eric的10%,这3位基本上还是想干啥就干啥。 - woodear
Google表示准备退出中国,CEO称很快会有结果 :http://it.solidot.org/article... - Hi-iD
去吧,勉强没幸福~ - wipo
SecretaryZhang(http://twitter.com/Secreta... ):可靠消息,关于 #GoogleCN 谈判,中共立场极其强硬。谷歌在中国的日子可以倒数了 /// 今日下午15时工信部部长李毅中向 #GoogleCN 喊话:我希望谷歌遵守中国的法律、法规,尊重中国政府的法律、法规。如果你非要做出这种违背违反中国法律法规的事,我再重复一遍,你是不友好的,是不负责任的,后果你自己要负责的。(via 人民网前方报道组)/// 记者问工信部部长李毅中的问题是“如果说“谷歌”在中国的网站取消对它搜索结果的限制的话,就像他们说的那样的话,中国政府会有什么样的做法?” #GoogleCN 工信部部长李毅中:谷歌中国若取消搜索审查,后果自负。 - Hi-iD
主子使唤奴才在家门口骂两声街,然后悻悻的说句“有什么了不起,没有谷歌,太阳照常升起”,果然第二天太阳升,谷歌退,一小撮不高兴,那个叫高兴的很高兴。再后来,CCTV说,世界第一大搜索引擎是百度。 - yinhm
谢文的微博(http://t.sina.com.cn/1644628... ):最新消息:谷歌退出中国的消息将在两会结束后的3月15号宣布。那天正好是消费者权益日,4亿网民的权益得到了最大的保护。 - Hi-iD
走好。墙外见。试西厢记。等WTO。 - woodear
中国哪部法律法规,规定了要把六四过滤掉? - woodear
黨即法律 - Baiyssy
可以啊,没问题,写下来。问题是它又不愿意留下纸面的文字。所以六四就是根本“不存在”的事情。没有任何一部法律法规提到过。它有种就把那些敏感词写下来。 - woodear
正因为黨即法律,所以无需写下来 - Baiyssy
耍赖。 - woodear
说个八卦,纯粹道听途说。某跨国公司IT发通知说根据中国政府规定,即日起禁止中国区员工用内网登录youtube,某人就回了个信去要他们出示所谓的 “政府规定”。邮件在几个部门之间兜了一圈,谁也没拿出直接证据说中国政府明文禁止这个。后来IT被逼急了终于透露内幕,其实他们也很无奈,是收到某部门的“提醒”,要IT“配合工作”。而且这个只是暂时的,很快公司的网络不能继续用自己的proxy出国,一定要走当局提供的proxy。 - viav
传言明日2时谷歌对外公布退出中国的决定。 - Hi-iD
2月份TED对SB的采访。http://blog.ted.com/2010... - woodear
更新了。更新了。cn跳转hk。香港反攻大陆!一国两制太牛逼啦! - woodear
【2010年11月29日】update:"wikileaks google china politburo" http://www.google.com.hk/search... - Hi-iD
一点都不意外啊 - Paul
虽然“一位联系人告诉美国大使馆”作为证据是不充分的,我看很多评论都这么说,但是大家都说这是“不是秘密的秘密”,即使像卫报所说(http://www.guardian.co.uk/world... ):“ How the hacker attacks which forced Google to quit China in January were orchestrated by a senior member of the Politburo who typed his own name into the global version of the search engine and found articles criticising him personally.”,因为一位政治局高级官员搜索自己名字发现对自己个人的批评信息而最终导致这场攻击。即使这,都觉得一点不意外,不光我们不觉得意外,现在老外都不意外了。估计马上可以下到那份文件了吧。 - Hi-iD
这只是美国人的通讯,并不能成为证据,充其量是个线索——一件不言自明路人皆知的事情的线索。 - viav
现在在大陆很多地区(http://twitter.com/zhengyu... )如果输入 http://www.google.com 那么搜索框已经被屏蔽了(用Chrome,FF和Safari http://twitter.com/zuola... ),其他比如 http://www.google.com.hk/ 未受影响,难道是 wikileaks 把人逼急了? - Hi-iD
http://www.google.com/ 现在正常了。 - Hi-iD
【2010年12月5日】来了 WikiLeaks cables blame Chinese government for Google hacking :http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol... Cables Discuss Vast Hacking by a China That Fears the Web: http://www.nytimes.com/2010... [来自 Google News]: http://news.google.com/news... - Hi-iD
Paul Buchheit
Paul Buchheit
Y Combinator announces two new partners, Paul Buchheit and Harj Taggar - http://ycombinator.posterous.com/y-combi...
"We're delighted to announce that Y Combinator is getting two new partners, the first we've added since we started YC in 2005. In case anyone doesn't already know who he is, Paul Buchheit was responsible for three of the best things Google has done: he wrote GMail, built the original prototype of AdSense, and came up with the phrase "Don't be evil." After leaving Google he started FriendFeed, which last year became Facebook's largest acquisition to date. He's a good friend as well as one of the world's best hackers; for years we've considered him an honorary YC partner. We hired Harj Taggar earlier this year to work advising startups alongside me. He wasn't technically a partner, but we quickly realized that he was one de facto—that among us his opinion carried as much weight as any of ours—and that it would be mean of us to delay recognizing this officially. Harj's arrival significantly improved how well YC operated. He's a large part of the reason we were able to fund 36 startups in the summer 2010 cycle." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
Congratulations, Paul! - Ross Miller
Cheers Paul. Awesome partnership. - Christopher Galtenberg
Congratulations, Paul!!! - AJ Batac
Would love if you guys devised a new concept: 2nd-shift startup. Many of us are working jobs we need and/or love, but are trying to build a new thing in the background. Having a bit of money, support, and networking would make all the difference. We're completely alone until we make the big leap. And many with families and bills can't think about leaping into Paul G's YC experience. - Christopher Galtenberg
Congrats, Paul! - Andrew Terry
Congrats! - Barbara R. S.
Congrats Paul. Are you going to do that *and* stay at Facebook? And have time for the family? - Joe Beda
You have to stay at Facebook at least long enough to get that damn search fixed! - Gabe
No, I'll be leaving Facebook to join YC. - Paul Buchheit
Also, I made some search changes a few days ago so it should be working a little better now. - Paul Buchheit
Congrats and best of luck to you at YC. Sorry to hear you won't be able to make further FF tweaks in the future, though! - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Paul, was one of the changes preventing people who aren't logged in from searching? I can't believe that would have as much of an effect on search as it may have been. - Akiva
Congratulations! - Eric Florenzano
Wow. So much for our hope of Buchheit/Taylor running FB! - Christopher Galtenberg
YC to acquire FB, circa 2013. - Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Congrats - Rodfather
This is fantastic news. You're in the right place, Paul. - Louis Gray from Android
Congrats Paul! - DJ Stevie Steve
congrats paul - testbeta
Congratulations Paul! - Atul Arora
Wow, congrats, but I didn't realize you're leaving Facebook. Wow. - Robert Scoble
Congratulations! - Anne Bouey
It's interesting. I remember seeing you shortly after you sold FriendFeed and hearing you advise a startup on what they should do. I thought you were great at that, and I guess that is a real passion. YCombinator is an amazing organization, can't wait to see what you do there. - Robert Scoble
Congrats! - John (bird whisperer)
Right on, Robert. - Bruce Lewis
Congratulations on following your heart! - Kevin Fox
I'm also wondering if this has any impact on FriendFeed. Certainly there's one fewer voice inside FriendFeed protecting the service. I wonder if Paul can tell the community now what he expects to happen to the service. Already a good chunk of the FriendFeed team has left. - Robert Scoble
Paul: I doubt you can answer this one, either, but I'd love to know what it is about Facebook that is already pushing away entrepreneurial types. It looks like it's becoming a big company, with all the politics and such. I was expecting you to make a much bigger impact there long term than it looks like you've been able to make. Want to come on camera to explain why things didn't work out? - Robert Scoble
I second that, I'd like it if he could talk. \o, - Zu from AOD
Congrats! But who will be looking after the Friendfeed servers now? *sorry to be so selfish* - Eric - seven eleven
Robert, it has less to do with Facebook and more to do with me. I'm just more excited about helping new entrepreneurs create the next Facebook or Google. I'd be glad to chat sometime. - Paul Buchheit
Great news on one hand since you could do so much to help others but, sad news on the other since I felt you were a very positive force in Facebook's continuing development. - AJ Kohn
Awesomeness!!! Congrats Paul!! - Rachel Lea Fox
Now you can create the next Friendfeed. - Cristian Conti
Fantastic Paul - Y Combinator is becoming a bigger force. Congrats to you. - Hutch Carpenter
good luck! :) - salaros
This seems like the perfect job for you - have fun! (and thanks for fixing the search ... I thought that might have been Ben G. ... make sure he knows how to do it mmmkay??) - Laura Norvig
Congratulations Paul - Shakeel Mahate
congratulations, this is huge! :) - Oguz Serdar
Excellent! Nicely done. - Jim #TeamMonique
Paul, once we get cottages up, we'd love to house start-up guys for free from time to time as part of our artist in residence program. - SAM
Congratulations, Paul! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Best news of the day! - Bo Stern
Paul, congratulations! The excitement is palpable - we're happy for you that your desire and opportunity can be so well matched. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I'm ready for the cool. - Eric - seven eleven
Congratulation and good luck, tell us something about FriendFeed.... - @zaps
congratulations - kang
What will this mean for FF? Just curious - LANjackal
Obi-Ben Kenolub is now our only hope. http://ff.im/pHRhj - Josh Haley
Not sure LAN, that was my first worry. It's a Facebook property though, so I don't know if Paul can do anything with it now. Not sure. - Eric - seven eleven from iPhone
Paul, now I need to share with you my next world-changing idea (seriously). Congrats! (is this the butterfly? ;-) ) - Jesse Stay
Congrats Paul! Right move. You are going to the right place. - vivekian
Surprise move, nice move. - Lizunlong
Congrats Paul - hope it goes well for you - Martha
Congrats Paul! - imabonehead
Good on you Paul. - Daniel Collins
Cheers.,. - OT
Paul Buchheit
Google Points At WebFinger. Your Gmail Address Could Soon Be Your ID. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Google Points At WebFinger. Your Gmail Address Could Soon Be Your ID.
"It’s taking something everyone knows on the web (your email address) and making it immensely more valuable as a way to identify yourself and information about you. Exactly what kind of information? Here are some of the ideas from the WebFinger Google Code page: * public profile data * pointer to identity provider (e.g. OpenID server) * a public key * other services used by that email address (e.g. Flickr, Picasa, Smugmug, Twitter, Facebook, and usernames for each) * a URL to an avatar * profile data (nickname, full name, etc) * whether the email address is also a JID, or explicitly declare that it’s NOT an email, and ONLY a JID, or any combination to disambiguate all the addresses that look like something@somewhere.com * or even a public declaration that the email address doesn’t have public metadata, but has a pointer to an endpoint that, provided authentication, will tell you some protected metadata, depending on who you authenticate as." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
I don't want my contact information to be my identifier. I shouldn't have to give a website my email address, just like I shouldn't have to give a store my phone number. - Daniel Sims
Daniel, I think it just takes the form of an email address, but does not in fact have to be one (or could be a "throw away" account). - Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if we could get our act together (as an industry) and make this stuff happen. I'd also like to see ENUM deployed to the point that my phone number can be linked to my identity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) - Joe Beda
This is a bad idea in so many ways I can't even begin to list them. - April Russo
If a site wants my email address, it's probably in order to spam me. It's usually a bad sign. If legit sites ask for my email more, it will make it harder to identify the spammers. - Tim Tyler
Do gmail users seriously still have problems with spam? I don't. - Robin Barooah
Personally this sounds great - as long as it really doesn't force you to use your actual gmail address. - Robin Barooah
I loved finger. - j1m
Does this mean I can have a .plan again? - Benjamin Lee
Sounds like the .plan which is (again) accessed via an id in email format and returns different information/metadata about a person depending on who's accessing it. Email id is used to do a DNS lookup in order to discover URL for the XRD file (accessed with a HTTP GET) containing the metadata about the person being, er, WebFinger-ed. - Nenad Nikolic
it is like user authenticating, having two three ids won't hurt ;) well i don't want to be identified, they are going same as gravatar - testbeta
It's so curious to me that people have concerns that WebFinger would lead to more spam, and yet don't like the "format" of URLs for IDs. Personally, as far as OpenID is concerned, I don't care what the identifier looks like as long as people can remember it — typically email seems easier to recall than URLs (for most people in today's world). - Chris Messina
Some users who have an email account with Google, myself included, have oodles of incoming mail both standard and secure so it fits the bill to increase security for both vendors and marketers. - frank burns
I have no problem with the idea, but it seems to me that it won't help the current state of affairs much. The kind of information I'd be interested in sharing via Webfinger (my OpenID, a URL to a FOAF file, etc.) will have no better adoption, so the Webfinger configuration doesn't buy me much. I'll hold out hopes that after a couple tight integrations between Webfinger and OpenID providers (say if Google, Microsoft and/or Yahoo provided and consumed both) things will improve ... here's to hoping :( - J. McConnell
Years ago I experimented with FOAF. I didn't fully understand nor appreciate what I was doing. To serve as a warning, if you take this example, ensure that it is blocked. #Example: I sent a file to Adobe which in turn, was sent to another email account I had at the time. I verified it's sender (ME) and sent it back in the direction of travel. A signed FOAF (API KEY) was then returned... more... - frank burns
老巫
莫名挺喜欢这首歌,超级女声中郁可唯唱的。
编曲 +1 - /sg
Louis Gray
AOL: You've Got Brizzly! (And They've Got Your AIM) - http://blog.louisgray.com/2010...
AOL: You've Got Brizzly! (And They've Got Your AIM)
jessie
俺吃了两块巧克力,拿走了线香(很好闻,谢谢)。放了一个圣诞老人铁盒子进去,从此漂流中的零散的小物件住小间了 XD。还放了一本twitter线圈本,一张梵高向日葵明信片。 啊,盒子要挤爆了,疯疯的居住环境堪忧啊。 - jessie from email
jiangyan同学把地址dm给我吧。还有lizunlong同学地址我给你寄明信片,快递单上的地址看不太清楚了。。 - jessie
地址dm给你了,啥明信片? - Lizunlong
话说我用了一个小袋子把所有的贴纸装在一起了 - Ratoo
@lizunhong 之前有人提议收到包裹后给上家回寄明信片,我觉得这主意不错。 - jessie from email
啊,手误,lizunlong 我用邮件没法修改,抱歉哈。 - jessie from email
杰西姐姐很有心哈 , 还要回寄明信片啊~ - junrxu
盒子里面东西翻新了很多啊 - 拓 | wavesand
jessie的下家联系上没?那位同学好像很少上ff - K.D.
还没联系上。 - jessie
K.D.要不我直接寄给你? - jessie
还有tt... 谁敢拿阿,被戳过的怎么办. - 虾仁
吹一下即知 - /sg
@jessie 在等几天,如果还没联系上就直接寄给我,第一轮就告结束 - K.D.
好滴。 - jessie
今天给yinhm寄出了一张逆流。 - 虾仁
@jessie 你把盒子寄给我吧,先加一下好友,然后我dm地址给你 - K.D.
有关部门万一开苞检查 一定会摸不着头脑...太丰富了 - 麦克.疯
@kd 加了,我回家过中秋了,大概25号寄给你。 - jessie
俺一开始去邮政快递,窗口mm按规定整个拆开每样都看了一遍然后重新装起来就很崩溃了,然后称重说60几块钱,我说啊好贵我不寄了。。。真对不起人家。 - jessie
这个举动肯定被国宝盯上了 - Paul
有这么重了啊。。。 - K.D.
Ems就是抢钱的,随便用个快递多好 - R093r- from Shawshank
抢钱+1 后来走的申通。两公斤多,说60估计是包含了纸箱的费用。ems没有民营快递的那种塑料包装。 - jessie
Hi-iD
iPad Teardown: An Engineering Design Perspective ||| LUNAR 的一个 Podcast,23分钟的视频(可下载),LUNAR 的工程师详解 iPad 与众不同的结构工程设计,推荐。 - http://www.lunar.com/iconoca...
iPad Teardown: An Engineering Design Perspective |||  LUNAR 的一个 Podcast,23分钟的视频(可下载),LUNAR 的工程师详解 iPad 与众不同的结构工程设计,推荐。
很不错的一堂课。ifixit看完也就看完了。还是需要专业人士的讲解才能看出里面的匠心。 - woodear
我在用ipad上,哈哈。没有买3G的,比较可惜,不然确实很方便,上街等于拿着个大GPS加手本 - viav
Leon
[Fancam] 100825 SNSD - Into The New World @ Japan showcase - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
[Fancam] 100825 SNSD - Into The New World @ Japan showcase
Play
/sg
The Beatles 1962 - 1974 All songs.pdf 钢琴谱
beatles201.jpg
Wish I could play piano. - 硕少
it's an 8000-hours work - Li Wang
Ted GUO
刚刚发现经营我购买的SSH翻墙帐号的某哥们儿居然是成都某开旅行社的,一头的瀑布汗,旅行社从业者的形象立马高大起来。
卖我SSH帐号的兄弟是开猪肉铺的,哈哈 - K.D.
@cosbeta,鉴定完毕 - 落后青年李三海
汗啊 - cosbeta
神奇啊,我那个猪肉铺兄弟也会现身吗? - K.D.
本人兼职卖猪肉 - cosbeta
我靠,本尊还真跳出来了~~~~cosbeta你好你好,多谢你的服务,速度挺快的~~~ :) - Ted GUO
哈哈,6维定理 - cosbeta
比较惊诧的是反应速度之快。才几分钟就碰上了~~ 我原帖完全没指名道姓也 :P - Ted GUO
江湖人称东哥嘛 - 老巫
果酱果酱,你这个定语,早就锁定我了。 - cosbeta
“访问速度很慢的外贸网站”——哈哈,当时我对这个描述笑得肚子疼了很久 - Ted GUO
这就是挂羊头卖狗肉嘛 - cosbeta
@ Ted GUO 这就是你昨晚推荐的翻墙帐号么? - Bi Zhao
y - Ted GUO
东哥服务态度很好呀。。bizhao快也搞一个 - Cokky
好~等我有空去搭讪一下 - Bi Zhao
搭讪过 但不知是猪肉东 - /sg
K.D.
cool, 总算回来了... 话说我中午在 iPod 上发现 FF 上不去, 在推上问了下居然一个回复的都没有.... - Ratoo
twitter上的实时搜索上能看到关心friendfeed的人还是很多的 http://twitter.com/search... - Ted GUO
好像基本是非英语国家的人/忘了,美国佬都在睡觉吧 - Hi-iD
是啊,每次都整得动静很大 - K.D.
FF出啥问题了? - kang
回来报道。 - yinhm
rt @FriendFeed majorly down due to major power outage for multiple racks. Embarassing; we apologize, and we are working on it. - K.D.
虾仁同学指出此条信息是好几个月前的。 - yinhm
这是上次当机当了好几个小时的.... 貌似是机房被水淹 - Ratoo
4:05 PM Feb 26th via web,好吧,这个可以反复使用的,反正还会有下一次宕机 - K.D.
水淹? - Paul
" 在推上问了下居然一个回复的都没有.... ", 我也是 - 老巫
因为大家都知道了 - Paul from email
没赶上 - /sg
woodear
Urbanized。 在拍过了Helvetica,Objectified之后,Gary的尺度更大了。字体,产品,城市。 - http://www.objectifiedfilm.com/blog...
Urbanized。 在拍过了Helvetica,Objectified之后,Gary的尺度更大了。字体,产品,城市。
Hi-iD
Minimalist House / Shinichi Ogawa & Associates | ArchDaily ||| 一个极简主义设计的房子,内部地面空间就两部分,(自我)敞开式的卧室、起居室和餐厅没有遮挡分割并面朝一个极简庭院,狭长的开口连接起外界,并不是很新鲜独特或者十分精彩的设计,但是这种禅寂的意味有迷人之处,对于东方人来说。 - http://www.archdaily.com/70869...
Minimalist House / Shinichi Ogawa & Associates | ArchDaily ||| 一个极简主义设计的房子,内部地面空间就两部分,(自我)敞开式的卧室、起居室和餐厅没有遮挡分割并面朝一个极简庭院,狭长的开口连接起外界,并不是很新鲜独特或者十分精彩的设计,但是这种禅寂的意味有迷人之处,对于东方人来说。
Minimalist House / Shinichi Ogawa & Associates | ArchDaily ||| 一个极简主义设计的房子,内部地面空间就两部分,(自我)敞开式的卧室、起居室和餐厅没有遮挡分割并面朝一个极简庭院,狭长的开口连接起外界,并不是很新鲜独特或者十分精彩的设计,但是这种禅寂的意味有迷人之处,对于东方人来说。
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