Robert, none of those are "real" comments. They're all delicious imports. So zero and zero. - Louis Gray

Treating del.icio.us notes as comments is a big FF pet peeve of mine that clouds my comment area. - Mark Krynsky

Hopefully all this draws at least one. If it provokes a twit response I think we can close the book on this one. - Drew

This is like Jason Nation 2.0. Kill me now. - Eric Rice

I'm not sure who's who, not that anyone should care but is Louis Gray someone who sold a company for $25 million or more or did anything like that -- or not? I only know this: Toro= BEST DOG EVER. So that speaks well of JC, regardless of how he happens to interact with FriendFeed - Robert Seidman

the commenting on friendfeed is yet another place to participate. ;) Nutty. - Rodney Rumford

R. Seidman (We love Taurus and Fondue... no questions there). As for selling at $25M+, not yet. This discussion is around FriendFeed. - Louis Gray

Ha, don't hate on Louis Gray. - Eric Rice

Robert has a vote for "only the rich matter." Got it. - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed is but a child...let it grow up a bit, then critique the users (but make as many product suggestions as you want -- it needs some work). Fair? - Robert Seidman

Seidman the thing is Calacanis got Twitter and started bribing users to follow him so he could use it as a marketing channel. I was mostly noting that he hasn't done that here on FriendFeed yet. - Robert Scoble

Everybody matters. The internet is a true democracy. I don't see how critiquing Jason's usage of the service improves FriendFeed (or for that matter, Jason) - Robert Seidman

Funny, I thought it was Serious Business. - Eric Rice

SeriousCat agrees with Eric. - derek

Jason didn't bribe me to follow him on Twitter (neither did you, for what it's worth). This sucks, Davidson lost AND I missed out on twitter payola. Jason is Jason, just like Manny is Manny. You use Twitter as a marketing channel, too, Mr. Scoble, right? Or am I high without actually being on drugs? - Robert Seidman

hmmmm. should I subscribe to jason on friendfeed???? maybe I'll get a towel or something... - Sarah Vela

Seidman you must have missed that Calacanis is giving away a Macintosh if he gets 20,000 followers. That's called a bribe. I never have done that. As for a marketing channel, well, maybe if you look at it the right way. That's not my main usage of it, if you follow my Twitter account. I mostly use it to keep in touch with a great group of people. - Robert Scoble

Sorry Scoble, you don't get to hide under the guise of "Just because I REALLY LOVE DOING IT" (and I believe that you do) it isn't promotion. - Robert Seidman

A TOWEL! AHHHHHHhahahaha. Sarah wins. If Jason gets 216,000 followers on FriendFeed, they all get Mahfollow towels. - Eric Rice

Rob, I don't get the vibe that Scoble's intent with Twitter is to build up followers and use it as a marketing channel even though he sometimes pimps his own stuff. Jason on the other hand... I'm not going to say he wouldn't have fun with or use twitter if he could never market himself or mahalo again (he probably would use it and still have fun), but, giving away the macbook air speaks volumes of how he views the service. - derek

You guys make me so glad I ain't got shit to sell. Cuz I'd have to one-up all this nonsense with like paratroopers and showgirls and fireworks. - Eric Rice

Seidman: some things I do on Twitter are promotion, yes. When you see me talking about FastCompany.tv you can put those into that bucket. I've written 100+ Tweets today. How many of them fall into that bucket? Also, if I really cared about promotion, why would I risk pissing so many people off by being so noisy? I wouldn't. So, your thesis is provably wrong. Try again. - Robert Scoble

Eric: fireworks? paratroopers? showgirls? Damn, did you HAVE to give Calacanis more ideas? Heheh. You always make me laugh. Sometimes I think this is TwitterTheater. - Robert Scoble

Derek, that's a fair point. I look at it like this. I'm not much on promotion (self, or otherwise -- it's not a skill with me). All of Jason's tactics definitely aren't for me (and obviously not you or Robert Scoble). But Jason *is* a good promoter. It's maybe not what I'd do, or what you'd do, or what Scoble would do...but does that make it "wrong"? My opinion is: nope. If you disagree, I can handle it...and either way Jason isn't going to stop being Jason. - Robert Seidman

Seidman heheh, you think I actually am egotistical enough to think that Calacanis is going to change his behavior? Man, I guess my reputation is much worse than I imagined. I'm not trying to change Calacanis. I'm trying to show Calacanis that he might get followers but that really won't give him promotional power in the end. You really need to study what @garyvee is doing. He's doing FAR better marketing/promotion than Calacanis is. - Robert Scoble

Scoble: eh, better is relative. I am SURE that Garyvee is trying to do good stuff, no question. But in the business world, I'd rather deal with JC. I can read him better than Garyvee. None of Gary's skeletons are out of the closet -- Jason just throws all the bones at you. - Robert Seidman

Seidman @garyvee runs a wine shop that sells $50 million annually. How much does Mahalo do so far? And, anyway, @garyvee throws better parties. But, I love them both. Especially when Calacanis takes me for a ride in his Corvette. - Robert Scoble

Fair enough Mr. Scoble. I think we probably agree more than we disagree. We live in a world where both Dale Carnegie and Don King can make a killing promoting. I'm OK with the full spectrum. - Robert Seidman

Rob does bring up a good point. While I don't agree with everything Jason does, I do respect him a ton for the "What you see is what you get" approach and how he can always respond to criticisms with thank you's. Scoble on the other hand pushes the focus away from himself as much as he can, and that's why people like & respect him. Two ways of going about self-branding, and I guess the fact that they are #1 and #2 in twitter goes to show that neither approach is right or wrong. - derek

What exactly makes delicious comments not "real"? The fact that they are imported comments? So when I share a comment on a site using stumbleupon and it ends up here as well its not real either? I hope I'm missing something, otherwise that sounds real snobbish. - Tony Miller

Doing this on friendfeed cuz I like it more than Twitter (and no 160 limit). Scoble, you are twittering about how you're not using twitter to monetize anything and Jason is. But isn't that simply because you aren't working hard to build something that can be monetized with Internet traffic...and Jason is? I don't really get the beef. Unless Jason has some way to make sure that you can't unfollow him no matter what, why isn't "personal choice" a good enough mechanism to prevail? - Robert Seidman

@Tony Miller I suppose delicious notes are notes you make about the site for better understanding, not conversation-like comments. That's what threw me when I first saw my own "notes" here as comments and it is causing me to word delicious notes a little differently now. If you can't beat 'em... join 'em. - Alex von Halem

@ Alex Thing is, since delicious is a social bookmarking site, you're basically saying by default, "hey, if youre following me, you may find this site interesting. And this comment im adding is what I have to say about it". That makes it just as real an attempt at a conversation starter, especially when imported into Friendfeed. - Tony Miller

Leave Jason alone! ;-) - Rubin

Can I just ask why it matters if he's participating or not? - Adam Posey