Leo should add a clause that says " TWIT is no responsible for any violation of NDA's or any other legal bindings." It is quite dangerous when people slip and forget they are on camera.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
"After entering this studio, NDA stands for No Dumb Agreements"
- Billy Doyle
You cept asking if it was live lol....
- ralphsaunders
I can't even tell you the number of times I've seen people trash careers, friendships, and advertising accounts by taking for granted that a studio microphone isn't live.
- Chris Baskind
That was a great show! The sign is great :)
- Justin Levy
To properly back up you need three copies. One on your local drive in case something gets corrupted. One on an external hard drive or other media in case your hard drive dies. One on an external hard drive or other media or storage service that you store someplace else in case your house or office burns down.
- Robert Scoble
Dropbox. Three separate laptops and their Web service.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Forget the external hdd in some other location, and just back up to that webspace you have that you never use, or maybe cloud-based backup.
- Shivanand Velmurugan
For a local backup I run Time Machine on my iMac to an external drive. I also have a remote backup in the cloud using Backblaze. In addition I use DotMac and Mesh for sharing files among different computers.
- Jonathon
Here's mine: The original copy, one stored using Time Machine, one copy on a network storage device (ReadyNAS) using RAID and one copy at an off-site backup location. Works well and I've got my backup scripts running constantly. EDIT: I also use Dropbox for my documents.
- Eric D. Brown
#1 hard drive, #2 another hard drive, #3 old stuff goes to DVD
- barl0w
Around midnight I received a weird 'file access error', so I spent the first 90 minutes of 2009 running fsck on my MacBook Pro, then went to bed. First task on waking up? Time Machine (whole system) plus Mozy (home directory). Sadly, using the network support to back up with Time Machine to a disk on my Airport Extreme failed horribly when I tried it, so I'm down to Mozy (over the Internet) and Time Machine to a directly-connected USB drive.
- James
Simple enough - internal drives backup nightly to external drives. The backup copy of my system drive is boot-able. I need to add the off-site factor to this setup. SuperDuper! is my backup software.
- Tom Harrison
I agree the dropbox solution works well for me except for photos and video. In that case I have main HD, backup HD an HD I try to keep off site. If all else fails I have high res jpegs on flickr.
- gfurry
computer, extra hard drive i keep in fire safe at home, WD Passport i keep with me most of the time. I use a self written program to run backups to all 3 places which i try to run it every few days to a week. cheaper then online services!
- Russell Thomas
I'm using TimeMachine. I'm thinking about cloud solutions, but didn't find something cheap enough...
- Simon Robic
I have one of the unibody Aluminum Macbooks with a 120GB SSD drive onboard. I plug this into 2 x 500GB USB disks when I'm at work. One of these is a Time Machine backup. The other has manually driven Carbon Copy Cloner backups. Done when I remember. Probably once a month. I also have a small mini-NAS on my work network which Apple Backup does an incremental network backup to once a day. At home I've got another small mini-NAS which I do the same. Also do a weekly backup to Amazon S3 using JungleDisk.
- Alasdair Allan
Each of our pcs has an external hd, an internal backup drive, and we have a backup server. We back up to the internal b/u drive, sync it to the external, then to the b/u server. It may sound like overkill, but we manage a TON of mission-critical data. Websites get backed up daily to the backup server and to off-site FTP.
- Ron's Home And Hardware
Original, one copy on my Drobo via Time Machine and important (and not so huge stuff) on S3 via JungleDisk and on iDisk. Burning houses aren't as common over here as they are in the US. :)
- Holger Eilhard
I have a (1) a portable HD that I bring to work and store (2) there and also another (3) PC running Windows Server with a RAID5 setup. Tens of thousands of photos to lose would be a disaster.
- Loukas Koufodontes
RAID 1 NAS, periodically copied to external USB hard drive.
- Matt Mutz
Holger we have both fire and earthquakes so I decided no local storage for backups. It's all offsite now and I feel better for it.
- Todd Hoff
Mirrored NAS 500GB each, plus portable HDD... cloud coming soon! Evaluating Amazon vs. Mozy - thoughts??
- Susan Beebe
I agree that it feels good to be backed up. I use duplicate external HD for my photos, and SmugVault (Amazon S3) for offsite. Uploading photos to SmugVault is a pain - it is very slow - but it works. Of course, if you forget to pay Amazon, you lose your backup. Backing up current pix to SmugVault is no problem, but I have a 1.5TB backlog. I tried DVD offsite, but they don't last very long.
- Tom Kimmerer
Dell's DataSafe runs on my laptop, important files (like my photos, vidoes, and music) are manually archived to external drives on a reg basis, and Live Mesh keeps my documents synced between my computers and the cloud. Everything else is online.
- Sarah Perez
todd: if I'd live in earthquake and fire country like, for example, say California, I'd also be worried about onsite backup. But - thank gd - the worst thing that could happen here is a flood, and even that's a stretch...
- Holger Eilhard
The drive I'm on, an IDE external drive, or networked drive, and I'd like to have some decent remote back up, but I need Terra bytes worth of it and something that lets me upload the file structure as is. I'm using acronis true image echo to back up my installs. vista ult.
- Devlin Holliday
I use Second Copy 7 for automated backups. It automatically sends backup copies to two other systems on the LAN and one off-site backup via FTP on a remote server. It also makes periodic copies to a potable drive that is sent to an off-site location. Frequently changed documents are copied every two hours, others are copied every day or once a week depending on importance.
- Vishwas
Media is stored online. Important docs are on an external HD and back up Gmails.
- Mona Nomura
1 weekly copy to external HD, Same again on another HD kept out of the house. Critical files changing more rapidly to Dropbox. Not perfect, but has worked for me.
- Pete Marshall
Windows Home Server - two copies of each file. And i'm thnking of JungleDisk or somthing to Amazon S3.
- Roberto Bonini
Drobo for storage, I back up important personal docs to S3/Jungledisk nightly. $5/month dirt cheap! I use an external disk for my 750+gigs of media (iTunes, photos (100+ gigs!) and my own videos, etc) that I take off site. I run time machine on my Macbook Pro at the office, take the macbook home, time machine drive stays here for offsite.
- Lon Seidman
Time Machine to an external drive does well enough for me. Maybe I'm not paranoid enough, but I just don't see the value in an off-site backup for personal use.
- David Wynn
from fftogo
2 x Backup drives, alternate backups to each drive daily, and adrive.com for offsite backup (nice 50gig free account :o) ) along with DVD backup on adhoc basis
- Carl Grint
Server to local using SyncBack SE, then Carbonite copies the local data off site.
- Michael Krigsman
Virtually everyone who chimed in on this thread is a techie. Think for a moment about the typical consumer. There are no easy solutions. Larger hard drives make it easier to accumulate tons of docs, photos, music, and videos. Hard drives last a few years (and what data is there on reliability of drives that haven't spun up for years?). DVD-R and CD-R are probably only good for a few years (and of course are tiny relative to the data sizes we're talking about). Solid state still has a high cost per gigabyte.
- LogEx
Online backup is useful, but will the company be around in 3 years? 5 years 10 years? What about the privacy of your documents? Break up your data into chunks and upload encrypted files? Also, consider how fragmented data is for many consumers... multiple computers, gaming consoles, mobile devices, etc.
- LogEx
Mozy is in the cloud, backed by EMC, pretty simple to use (even for non-techies) and pretty cheap. Great support when you chat or call in.
- Lee Herman
Keep in mind fire safes are designed to keep paper from combusting, not protect electronic gear from damage. Big difference.
- stretta
from twhirl
@Logical Extremes - your comments are definitely spot-on for Windows users. I think the Mac has a great built-in (and easy to use) solution. While Time Machine may not be configurable enough for us geeks, it's a real winner for trouble-free unattended backups. Very easy to swap disks too for taking them off site.
- Lon Seidman
@Logical I see that a lot of non-techies are using external HDDs. They're pretty easy, but yeah, nothing lasts forever.
- Sarah Perez
I've been using mozy.com for over a year now for pictures, personal files etc and it works well. I'm kind of a techie (a CTO @ ADP.COM), but, consider myself a consumer when it comes to my home stuff (has to be easy, wife doesn't have to think about it etc). I've recently started using Live Mesh to push files across all of my home devices as well which is great (esp. for one note,...
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- Richard Anderson
Logical: That's what Carbonite does. You can easily backup 100GB to them. David Friend, their CEO, told me he got the idea when a family member lost photos when laptop was stolen from a car.
- Michael Krigsman
Every copy of data you put onto S3 is replicated (within and across data centers) so it's highly durable. It's where all my important data goes (through Jungledisk) and has been for a long time (disclaimer: I work there now, but was a user long before). Hard drives at home (a few TBs) are for things I look at every day and for sample libraries :)
- Deepak Singh
Right, I know there are tons of components to an overall strategy out there, but for the masses, they're lucky if they have an automatic on-site backup like Time Machine. My point is that computers aren't like a file drawer or an appliance. Good backup today requires a good strategy and a combination of tools, and most consumers aren't up to it.
- LogEx
The points raised by Logical Extremes are the same reasons I have not signed up with an online backup company. How do I know they'll still be here in 10 years, and how do I know I can trust them with my data?
- Tom Harrison
Quite true @Logical Extremes--We all learn the importance of back-ups the same way: we suffer a data loss. Somethings I have backed up to DVD or another computer or "in the cloud" some projects live on in the "oral tradition" where I simply describe how great this thing is to someone else--an if it's lost--it's legend lives on...(silly)...
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
External hard drive is 1. Mozy is 2. Mesh.com for extra important stuff is 3. Skydrive for paranoia
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
The other issue that hasn't been mentioned is data obsolescence. Us techies can handle it if we plan for it, but as applications and data file formats get older, more and more files become unreadable for most folks. How many of you have old files that you don't have a reader app for anymore? I always encourage people to choose the simplest, most prevalent, and most open data format for a given application. ".txt" rules!
- LogEx
And I hope that people rank highly the availability of simple, open format, file export capabilities, when choosing which services will house their data (backup, social, etc.).
- LogEx
Re the trust issues with online backup, I think you have to go with a bigger player / name (like EMC owning mozy.com), that was my reasoning at least
- Richard Anderson
Microsoft Mesh to sync across all machines, backup (using Syncbackup) of one primary to network attached storage, and Jungledisk to Amazon S2 as well for off-site + periodic checkpoint copies to external disks. I am a fan of backup software that stores the backup as individual files.
- Ian D. Nock
Windows Vista Backup to 2 external drives at 2 locations + burning to DVDs. All long-term backups are regularly re-hashed and checked to make sure they can still be read. In addition, most of my backups contain a copy of an entire computer so all the programs are there.
- Zian Choy
SuperDuper! plus selective JungleDisk for Mac. unison to server at school for laptop. SmugMug for photos.
- Emil Sit
I'm beginning to think I should try online backup for offsite backups of my personal data. Has anyone used both BackBlaze and Mozy.com? How do they compare? Would anyone recommend another service at a similar price point? ($5/mo, unlimited)
- Mike English
Roberto: Also look at Mozy Home -- It is also 5$/month unlimited.
- Robert Miller
Different kind of workflow, also for @LogicalExtreme's non-techies: Keep an Outbox folder on every machine. Store pretty much every document you can there. Copy Outbox(es) to USB drive every week or so. Keep the USB drive in your car or on keychain. It's not a full-state backup, but 98% of computer state is not life-critical. Emergencies are rare and it takes less than a week to rebuild computer state.
- Christopher Galtenberg
(Can also have VitalNonPrivate and VitalPrivate folders in Outbox - zip and email both to yourself, the latter with encryption -- that's your 'cloud backup')
- Christopher Galtenberg
Just spent a few days sorting my backups out. Now have 1) machine image (Vista Ulitmate backup could use Acronis or Ghost) which will only be updated occassionally - on an external drive, 2) system image and incremental (updated monthly) on a protected local partition using Acronis 3) daily incremental backup of user data areas using Acronis on external drive and 4) daily copy of user data areas on an external server using Mozy - easy set up, good price, unlimited capacity. Can't be too careful!
- Mark Warren
I love my ReadyNas (http://www.readynas.com/) and have already failed over from a bad disk. Killer timing on this thread; getting ready to rsync to the cloud...
- Jeff Malek
Currently Local system RAID 1....soon adding backup to NAS (also RAID1) & using an Offline backup service like Dropbox or other AWS hosted service.
- Mark Krynsky
Carbonite. I just lost all data on my laptop a week ago. Restored my mission critical files immediately (after reinstalling Windows), then restored everything else over the next few days. There is no need to personally maintain three copies when you're using an online system with it's own redundancy such as Carbonite.
- John Morley
Web-based backup -- Carbonite, Mozy or Jungledisk with Amazon S3 work nicely. I've shared John Morley's experience.
- Sean McBride
I'm seeing Carbonite, Mozy and Jungledisk regularly mentioned... anyone care to chime in on why one versus the other?
- Sean Katona
Sean Katona: I prefer Jungledisk with Amazon S3 to Carbonite and Mozy, because of price, user interface and reliability. You might want to try all three to judge for yourself.
- Sean McBride
I used Jungledisk and switched to Carbonite because it backs up everything automatically as it changes and I don't have to worry about it at all.
- Todd Hoff
I haven't tried Jungledisk or Mozy. Carbonite is great for me because it's seamless... you just don't ever have to worry about it. If it's not backing up properly it will tell you. If you have any files over 4gig that you want backed up though, you do have to manually tell Carbonite to keep those backed up or else they'll be skipped.
- John Morley
I back up my important files on a back-up server then I back-up the back-up twice on tapes: One copy in my office, the other in my wife's office.
- Charles Nadeau
I've found backing up to be far less important than it used to be - almost everything I have is in the cloud. Code is in version control hosted offsite and backed up, documents are in google docs, email's in gmail, photos are in flickr, not much else left to back up.
- Parand
I've implemented a tiered system with numerous local snapshots (Time Machine, in my case), and automatic remote sync (Jungledisk). Details and overall considerations for any backup strategy here: http://tr.im/2v7b
- Phil
IDrive is one of the better solutions. It is faster for backups and restores compared to other services, and easy to use. But nothing beats a local drive based backup. Online Backup services are simply too slow.
- Kitu Gidwani
Someone needs to come up with software that lets you backup to a USB drive stored at your friend's house. You backup to the drive, take it to his house and plug it in, then do incrementals over the web. Encrypt everything. You do the same for him.
- Dom
I just back up things to an external hard drive. And I refuse to back up to the cloud as I can't trust something that isn't under my control.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I use Acronis to back up an image to my FreeBSD box with ZFS. (Sorry Scoble, they're western digital drives :). Then, I also use rsync.net (lots of space for cheap), and - you guessed it - rsync the important files (documents, pictures, etc) to the cloud.
- David Andrzejewski
I've been using Mozy and have recently been trying Syncplicity [http://www.syncplicity.com]. I don't know if I can justify the $10/mo for 50GB, though. The benefit to Syncplicity for me is that it's near real-time sync with unlimited computers.
- Cory
Locally I have a RAID5 array on a dedicated server, otherwise Backblaze/DropBox.
- Michael Laccetti
Robert - THANKS! I was one of the lucky 20 winners of the Jungle Disk software by @Mosso - wow, this is awesome and works seamlessly with Amazon s3 online "cloud" data storage services. Finally, I have offsite, encrypted backups!! Thanks again! Keep getting FFers cool promos like this! :)
- Susan Beebe
All of our machines back up to Jungle Disk important folders every six hours and once a week I do a Time Machine back up on my MacBook Pro to an external 100gb laptop drive in a USB enclosure. I have never had a backup solution until maybe six months ago and I didn't realize how much relief it brings just knowing it's happening.
- Akiva Moskovitz
done on the first, everything now sits up on S3 :-)
- Patphelan
I backed my laptop up last a few days ago. The servers all back themselves up to each other nightly.
- matthew john ernisse
Robert: not really. To properly back up you need three copies. One on your local drive in case something gets corrupted. One on an external hard drive or other media in case your hard drive dies. One on an external hard drive or other media or storage service that you store someplace else in case your house or office burns down.
- Robert Scoble
You know it's funny you should mention this today, I was just thinking about how I need to run one of my periodic offsite backups. Here's what I do for backup: 1. My work machine is also my macbook pro, back up with time machine to a drive here at the office. Macbook lives with me. 2. All important documents I have back up to Jungledisk/S3 nightly, awesome service dirt cheap. 3. Store all of my personal docs and media on an ever expanding drobo.
- Lon Seidman
But that means I have to use Time Machine and it's soooo slow.
- Kelly W.
I back up key data nightly to my server. What I do need to work on is remembering to take a copy of the data into the office so I have an off-site backup -- right now everything is under one roof.
- Dan Overes
I haven't done any backing up in the past. I have a 500GB external sitting idle, what's the best Windows backup software to use?
- Ian Mikutel
Who needs to back stuff up? We all live in the cloud now!
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: you definitely don't do HD video or have a Canon 5D if you say that. :-)
- Robert Scoble
4. Offload my 100+ gigs of personal/professional photos, 70+gigs of iTunes, 80+ gigs of backed up AVCHD SD cards (raw footage) from my HD camera, and the 400+ gigs of completed uncompressed edited stuff to an external hard disk that I keep here at work for an off-site solution. Not easy given how my library keeps growing!
- Lon Seidman
The best windows software to use is Copy/Paste
- barl0w
For Robert's first criterion for a proper back-up, I highly recommend everyone download and install something like Subversion. It's great for local back-ups of documents and files. It protects not only from corruption but allows you to go back in time to previous document versions.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I do a weekly backup on Linux. WAY faster than any program on Windows. My external USB drive is my primary and it gets backed up to my super slow internal drive (as opposed to my super fast internal one).
- Helen Sventitsky
Yes Sir, always good to to do so at the Top of the year.
- Tate DA FF MVP
I use Symantec Ghost (somewhat flaky) for a full image every two weeks. Carbonite to the cloud constantly. May go Drobo in the New Year.
- Mike Neumann
I'm sure it's cause I don't do multimedia, but I've never ever backed up. Ever. Instead, any new computer I get, I wipe the HD, re-partition so only OS files are on C, and 1, 2 or more partitions are for installing apps, and data storage.
- James D Kirk
YES!! In fact, for Christmas I got another 500GB Lacie NAS file server, iTunes server, backup (SmartSync Pro backup software). I am seriously considering Amazon for in the cloud backup. Feedback anyone??
- Susan Beebe
just bought a 2nd Drobo, going to be testing in house replication, then going to do remote geographic replication in the next month or so.
- clarke thomas
Done on the Time Capsule that my brother brought for me from US. Now contemplating on a Jungle Disk for that off-site copy.
- Chintan Zaveri
My best purchase of 2008 was my 500gb time capsule. My HD just recently crashed on my mac, and within 3 hours it was all restored after i replaced the HD in there with a 250gb seagate. The time capsule costs about 300, but you cannot put a price on the peace of mind it gives.
- jason l baptiste
I back up my 1.5TB hard drive array to an internal 1.5TB Time Machine array. This allows me to take my PowerMac G5 wherever and have my backups with me. In the future I will also have a 2TB external hard drive that will be a clone of the G5 using Carbon Copy Cloner. This workflow gives me incremental backups of both Time Machine and a bootable clone. I could also move the external hard drive offsite and do backups over the net once a day, week, etc.
- Brent Cameron
I literally just finished backing up my drive and it failed. What is frustrating is that this is the second Seagate drive (2nd was to replace original) to fail in less than a year.
- Jauder Ho
I use an external drive to backup my computer which I run manually at least weekly. Fortunately a lot of my stuff is online through Google, Flickr, etc. The only thing really needing to be backed-up is financial information and code.
- Justin Yost
New years resolution: use shoeboxed.com
- Sarah Perez
I have Windows Home Server backups going back to November 2007 :)
- Roberto Bonini
Excellent idea. Any recommendations for a freeware portable windows solution?
- Frank Koehntopp
Always, but never to my complete satisfaction. Synchronized off site backups are still largely out of reach for me, given the amount of data I have - you just can't back up a terabyte of data to the cloud, given the sorry state of broadband. I have (at least) three copies of everything locally though.
- Eric P
the JournalSpace fiasco is also a good example of why relying on 3rd party companies to protect your data is a bad idea. Just because you have copies of your images on flickr isn't enough, etc... If $company goes bankrupt and sells assets, the harddrives with your data on them might easily be sold to a asset management company who doesn't care to pay to keep them powered on...
- matthew john ernisse
I use Mac, so Time Machine is all I need. I had to use it recently too, which really proved its worth. Fantastic backup (and restore) solution. Go Apple for making things so simple!
- Mark Stanley
Not that I like it any more than everyone else, but it does give you the option to turn the post off when you sign up. Language could be a lot more specific though, and it should be off by default.
- Brad Kellett
Why would you want @replies to email anyway? RSS seems a much more elegant solution.
- AJ Kohn
One of the reasons I use Twitter (and FF and IM and etc) is to AVOID stuff getting sent to my email. I don't get what the value of Twply is supposed to be.
- Troy Forster
from twhirl
first time I've seen it, I thought someone actually tweeted it. Then all of a sudden, most of my timeline was 'tweeting' the same message.
- Dee S.
Email may be preferable on some mobile devices. But, I agree with Robert, an awful way to spam Twitter. Spam as the default=bad. Choice of "support twply on your first login" is too vague and even misleading.
- iSteeve
They seem to have a different idea of what "viral marketing" is about.
- Franz Binder
Definetely agree with iSteeve - "I support twply ... every three weeks I show them love" is vague. This does not indicate to me that every three weeks they will be sending out spam with my name attached. I hope they are shut down.
- Renee Hendricks
any 3rd application that asks for my twitter name/pswd - I don't give my info. Red flag - but just my opinion.
- Jennifer
The thing that put it over the edge for me was "Neat Stuff!" --- It sounds like a personal endorsement instead of an announcement that someone is trying it out. Big difference between "I'm trying this out" and "I think this is the coolest thing ever"
- Jose Castillo
I don't think they should shut down, I think they need to let the people who use it tell others about it on a "hey check this tool out", basis.
- Charlieray
I agree with TheJennTaFur ... unfortunately, Twply has set a bad example for those 3rd party twitter apps who are actually developing for the betterment of the Twittersphere, not just to spread themselves thin
- Kevin Pruett
They've now seemingly removed the checkbox altogether from their site.
- Patrick Veverka
FWIW, I enabled Twply on a test account and it honored my "no tweet" request
- Dan Byler
Don't trust them now. Changed my Twitter password so they couldn't screw with my account. We need a better way to interact with Twitter from a security perspective. Some sort of trust 3rd party. Maybe Twitter could implement something that allowed us to authorize various clients through the Twitter site, rather than giving out our password to multiple companies. PeopleBrowsr, TweetDeck, etc, etc all have our password.
- Scott Maentz
Pretty sure that you made twply's day, Robert.
- beersage
You know, the CAN-SPAM act is sufficiently vague on the definition of an electronic mail message that this type of stuff could feasibly be under its domain. Do they provide an opt-out mechanism for their "support" tweets? Is there a physical address?
- Mark Trapp
I agree with Scott - we need the allow/authorize feature for clients in Twitter. I m recommending everyone to change their Twitter pswd after the 'twply' thing. As soon I put my Twitter username and pwd I found something weird about it!
- Frank Da Silva
They need to be clear what it means to "support" them on your first login. I see from their Twitter stream that they'll post your "support" every three weeks. Did I miss that on their home page?
- Julie Barrett
Was this due to not reading carefully? Or are they sent even if elected not to support? Read carefully before signing up at http:/twply.com
- Brian
Brian: it's both. The opt-in was "support Twply on first login": no mention of sending out a Tweet. In addition, people are reporting that even though they clicked "No thanks" they sent out the tweet anyway. Combined with the developer of Twply's intransigence, it doesn't make for a very good experience.
- Mark Trapp
Checking out the twply page again - I m wondering where is the 'about us', 'contact us, 'help', etc... as in any other website/application or whois behind it hyperlink! Very weird indeed! Red Flag big time!! as the first 2009 starter it failed!! This is the Whois Record for the domain: http://whois.domaintools.com/twply...
- Frank Da Silva
Yeah, last thing I want is twitter invading my inbox. Part of what I like about twitter is the lack of inbox integration.
- Jeff
I unchecked the support box and it still sent the spam. There is no delete account on the site. Changed my password. This is a spam hack. FAIL.
- Mark Interrante
unchecked the support box, same as everyone else, still sent the tweet
- Patphelan
If you're an active Twitter user and 1) you see two or three people with the same tweet in near succession and 2) go check out the service and 3) see the "Support twply..." radio button, and you can't put it all together to know it's going to send the same message on your behalf if you opt-in, well then, i don't know what to tell you. I guess stop breathing through your mouth?
- Morgan
...if on the otherhand you checked no and it still sent it then that is total fail. @mark trapp's comment about CAN-SPAM and the opt-out of notices is also an interesting angle.
- Morgan
Is this credible? Doesn't it seem nuts to sell so quickly? And what are they selling? The service or just the domain name?
- Carter Rabasa
Could be that the seller will incur costs beyond what they can handle and decided to sell, Or they just ran off with people's account info.
- Charlieray
My first -ve experience with twitter. Compliments of twply.
- B2B Specialist
Fastest flip in the history of Web 2.0? Twply was just sold for $1200 after being in operation for less than a day. http://bit.ly/twply4sale
- Mike Doeff
An interesting dilemma - I hate spam and would like to boycott anything promoted that way. Usually it's junk - Viagra or whatever - but occasionally it's something I would actually have liked had it been promoted honestly. I agree with Frank Scavo and @smaentz though: Twitter should have a better access-control system, like Flickr: give Twply read-only access, no risk of this happening in the first place.
- James
Scott: it's probably worth me pointing out that TweetDeck accesses your Twitter username password from your local machine only, it is not stored centrally. There's no point saving this data centrally, poses way to much of a security risk and responsibilty on the developers shoulders.
- Iain Dodsworth
I don't know if I'd consider 825 sign-ups (according to their sale notice) all that effective, especially considering the number of big names that talked about it. It did net the guy a quick 1,200 bucks, though.
- Mark Trapp
I suspect oAuth just got bumped up the list at Twitter today. Even Google Friend Connect is asking for my Twitter password.
- Bob Hitching
What flavor does Steve like? [edit] Seriously, I think it would be interesting. Sort of like asking what your favorite animal is, I think it might reveal something.
- AJ Kohn
You know you are going to make AAPL stock rocket in the morning if you keep this up?
- Dominic Jones
Yeah, I saw him last month eating spicy Indian food and swiping through his black iPhone. He looked perfectly fine.
- Mason Lee
Are you stalking him or is this a 'walk a mile in his shoes' sort of thing?
- Admiral Anika
I'm watching the after-hours trading in AAPL to see if this great breaking news has any impact. Still four minutes left.... Will update :-)
- Dominic Jones
Ciaonenrico: I had a latte there too. The yogurt is the best in Northern California.
- Robert Scoble
So, he's still alive? ;) BTW, what is THE interview you wish to make in 2009?
- Konstantin
But clearly, he is not well... isn't it about time they say SOMETHING? :\
- Mona Nomura
Then what? Sell your stock? If Apple's value is so wrapped around one person isn't that a clear risk already?
- Hayes Haugen
Konstantin: 1. Barack Obama. 2. Steve Jobs. 3. Steve Ballmer. 4. Mark Zuckerberg. 5. Bret Taylor. 6. Evan Williams. 7. Jonathan Ives. 8. Vic Gundotra. 9. Barack's CTO. 10. A bunch of geeks who I don't know but who are changing the world.
- Robert Scoble
It has nothing to do with stock, it's handling smooth transitions IF there is something wrong so we (consumers) have confidence in them (Apple).
- Mona Nomura
Mona: we're all dying. I know a lot of people who have died that were very healthy. Or seemed to be. Marc Orchant anyone? I don't know that Steve isn't well. Having cancer can cause you to live healthy and lose weight. But, I already assume the dude will die. So will I. Until he's ready to talk I have to assume he's fine. Obviously he's not bedridden if he's coming into yogurt stores.
- Robert Scoble
Red Mango or Fraiche? I prefer Red Mango on University.
- Randy Ksar
from twhirl
Randy: I'm partial to Fraiche. Maybe we need a taste-off? :-)
- Robert Scoble
We're all speculating and won't know for sure until Steve Jobs either steps down or retires. Either which way, this is really bad on Apple's part because they are (to me) encouraging rumors and speculation, irresponsible journalism, and publishing. The question is: Are we ok with that?
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple is too secretive about everything. But that's who they are and they probably know that this publicity is good for them. It keeps us all wondering what the real story is. Guarantees everyone will attend Jobs' next press conference.
- Robert Scoble
If people are getting worried when a CEO is getting thin, shouldn't we be more worried over weight CEOs? They are more all of a heart attack time-bomb than SJ is a health risk. Why don't we ask all those fat CEOs to disclose *their* health record?
- Clarence Chiang
I'm not worried about him. Is no one familiar with the old adage, "An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away."
- Kevin Murray
Clarence: It's not just any CEO. It is Steve Jobs. Do you think his predecessor will generate this much news? Robert: I understand that, but that is so not ok, in my book.
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple doesn't listen to me on PR issues either. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Do they even make apple yogurt? It probably tastes better if you eat it with a mock turtle neck on.
- Keith Beucler
Great reporting Robert. The real losers here are the gossip sites like Gizmodo who perpetuate rumors with "anonymous sources" who are "100 %" correct.
- James
Why don't u interview him? I can see it now... "so who are you?"
- mal
That place is buzzing - why hasn't anyone else reported seeing him there?
- Jesse Stay
Hope he's well. In any case, despite all the coverage, what I haven't heard about is whether Apple's doing anything at CES? Do they usually exhibit? CES isn't something I've paid any attention to in the past but if Apple's becoming (as some are saying) the new Sony, wouldn't CES be important?
- Gordon Vaughan
Apple never goes to CES. Apple has its own show from now on: it's called its network of stores and Engadget. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Schnozberry! Who's ever heard of a schnozberry?
- Kerri
Now that Jobs has made his January 5 announcement, we can all reflect. In my view, even if they didn't know anything, Apple & Jobs should have made some sort of statement in December, when the Macworld announcement was made. It wouldn't have been perfect, especially since they may not have known about the hormonal imbalance at the time, but better to say something than nothing. If nothing else, it would have kept Robert out of the yogurt shop. :)
- Ontario Emperor
that camera is amazing! and of course the photographer is too -- but the sharpness and the crispness of the pictures are just out of this world
- Bryce Campbell
from twhirl
I really love the content of the Santa picture. Thought provoking.
- Jim Bednarz
Great pics Leo! My favorites the pile of toe nails. :* You taking that Camera to France with you? Looks like it will serve you well in Paris at night with the Christmas lights.
- Bob Maltais
My wife will kill me but I think I may have to get one of these... Glad to see you got the camera before your trip to France!
- Lon Seidman
Wow. Pictures are really nice, but the video is truly amazing!!!!
- James Hoang
"We've had one of these before, when the dot-com bubble burst. What I told our company was that we were just going to invest our way through the downturn, that we weren't going to lay off people, that we'd taken a tremendous amount of effort to get them into Apple in the first place -- the last thing we were going to do is lay them off. And we were going to keep funding. In fact we were going to up our R&D budget so that we would be ahead of our competitors when the downturn was over. And that's exactly what we did. And it worked. And that's exactly what we'll do this time."
- Leo Laporte
I love/hate how Fortune takes a 100 word quote and stitches it together with 14 other short clips from March across 15 pages. Nice way to increase ad impressions.
- Michael Leggett
"Jackson began to get e-mailed threats. Someone posted photos of Jackson and his girlfriend on their own Web site. Somebody called his employer to say Jackson was a pedophile. "We just wanted you to know that we know we are being watched," said one message, "and we don't like it." When Jackson called the police about some letters being spray-painted on the street, the harassment intensified. He was a snitch. Anonymous thugs threw rocks at his window at night, and he was followed to work by a group of guys in hooded sweatshirts. "It wasn't like I was crazy," Jackson said. "This was guys walking up behind you, staring at you.""
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
our son lives nearby and sent us the link to this when it first went up. was kind of entertaining to watch. who would of thought it could go so wrong? sheesh.
- Mark Schulz
"Starbucks could fire back that not all of its coffee costs four bucks, or that extra cents help pay for health care for baristas. (A 12-ounce cup of brew starts at $1.40 at Starbucks, a penny more than the average McDonald's brew price. A small McDonald's latte costs $1.99 compared with $2.45 to $3.15 at Starbucks.)"
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
Haha, I saw one of those billboards in Seattle and laughed. I don't expect McDonalds' espressos to make a dent in Starbucks' sales, and I'm sure they don't expect it either. People buy Starbucks because it's Starbucks.
- David Wilson
McD coffee is vile whatever the price.
- Sally Church
I seldom buy coffee out, but that is because I am mostly at home, and make coffee at home each morning. When I got to visit a client I usually take a thermal mug of it with me. If I do go to Starbucks I almost always buy a regular $1.80 venti. I want coffee, not a mug of foam or flavored gloop. As for McDonalds, I don't eat the junk they make out is food, so I'm not likely to go in there for cofee either.
- Ian May
Oh, BTW, I don't think Starbucks coffee is anything particularly special, but it's quite acceptable, and it could be a whole lot worse. Most corporate food and drink outlets are much more mediocre than Starbucks is.
- Ian May
i'd pay $4 for a mcdonalds coffee over starbucks any day.
- alanoakes
This reminds me of where ads are heading according to the movie 'Idiocracy'. Also you don't have to go to _either_ McD or SB! Go to a real coffee shop.
- Boris Gordon
McD's coffee is surprisingly adequate
- Andrew Smith
McD devestated starbucks when they upgraded their coffee. they figured out that a lot of people used to go to starbucks and mcd while driving to work. now you can just go to one place, and it is good enough. I personally know people who get to work faster (wake up later), and only drink McD's coffee now because of what this type of marketing. it maters.
- paulm
It's a good job people aren't like me. I never did buy a coffee when I drove to an office. I always made a pot at home, and saved enough in a week, to buy good coffee beans for the next week! Same with breakfast, and I wouldn't eat in McD if it was the only place in town. The worst of the fast food junk ever.
- Ian May
mcd coffee is good, learned that from long roadtrips across america and there are lots more mcd's than sb's, but i like sb's for computer work while away from home, wouldn't want to hang in mcd's -- too bight, noisy, kids, they smell bad like cheap burgerz.
- Dave Winer
I agree, McD coffee isn't bad, and if you're in the middle of nowhere (say, on a long drive down I-5) you can do much worse than McD coffee.
- Tudor Bosman
Gas station coffee and coffee from other fast food chains are usually worse.
- Tudor Bosman
I don't know about America, but here we have "McCafés" which actually do a pretty good coffee.
- Bryce Roney
Someone I was doing work for a few weeks back, asked me if I'd like a coffee, and I said yes, and he came back with some from Dunkin' Donuts. It was really awful crap, like hot water, but with a mild stewed taste. I don't eat fast food, so I don't know what it's like in other places but this was truly yuck.
- Ian May
They don't need to as I for one will never get coffee at McDonalds.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Starbuck's coffee is awful, IMO. McDonald's coffee is good. Panera's coffee is better. My own brew, at home, is the best. :) (Oh, and the free coffee at work is almost as bad as Starbuck's! But it's $4 less than Starbuck's, so it's slightly better!)
- Kenneth LeFebvre
Starbucks is pretty bad, haven't tried McDonalds, but my favorite so far is Cambridge Coffee, too bad they only have one store left.
- xero
I'd love to see variations of this ad gain popularity. "Spending $300 on a handbag is really stupid." "Paying $180 for $1.37 of material is pretty lame." "Paying $600 for a wristwatch is uber-stupid" and so on. Then again, I'm pretty un-brand conscious (cynics would amend that to "unfashion-conscious" or worse "unconscious when it comes to style"), so take that all with a few grains of salt :P
- Adam Lasnik
Who goes to Starbucks for coffee? I for there for Frappucinos.
- Rob Haas
Heh! Funny and true words! :) (and you'd be proud of me, in that context, for going to the famed Yongsan market in Korea -- 9 floors of heavily discounted electronics -- and buying nada... zip... zilch!.)
- Adam Lasnik
@Adam you're man from our league -- fashion/style/brand/etc is lame excuse for unfounded greed
- A.T.
I do like their egg mcmuffins, but there coffee is awful. Starbucks should shoot back with a big green billboad that says McDonald's Coffee tastes like ass. Personally these days I'm making my coffee at home though rather than buying either.
- Thomas Hawk
It all comes down to what you like. Buying coffee at McDonald's is like drinking a Coors or Bud. Sure it'll do in a pinch, but if you really like good beer you're going to drink something with flavor. Since Starbuck's has become the McDonalds of coffee that argument may not hold much water, but that's how I see it. You get what you pay for.
- Rob Fahrni
In the past year Starbucks bought Clover which makes a unique coffeemaker designed for light roasted, usually quite unique coffees. They had previously been mostly in independent cafes but have now been added to many Starbucks. Very good coffee (if not cheap). Also there is a world of truly good coffee - akin to fine aged French wine - McD is cheap boxed wine in comparison.
- Shannon Clark
Ryo, I'm not saying that Starbucks is find wine (though their Clover coffees are quite good) but am more referring to the "Third Wave" coffee movement here in the US (Blue Bottle, Ritual Roasters, Four Barrel Coffee in SF; Intelligentsia Coffee in Chicago & LA, Stumptown in Portland etc). Which are cafes which typically import their own beans, roast them themselves, and prepare them with extremely high levels of skill (often matching machines & techniques carefully to the beans)
- Shannon Clark
No! Not the puppets again! please! :) (I swear I'm kidding)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
OH G-D not again - now im going to be freaking singing this all night and i need to go to sleep now!!! DAMN YOU WINER! and here i just interviewed your company yesterday! yet i cant stop watching
- Allen Stern
This is a song we sing with the kids all the time. I do the mamomena part and the kids to the "do do do do" part Oops. they say the thumbnail on the screen and want to see it right now :)
- Christian Burns
This is a song often sung in our house - kids love it!
- Bora Zivkovic
Haggis I am now dizzy from watching that cover video :)
- Allen Stern
Dave is evil... this will be stuck in my head for days now... Thanks Dave!!
- Les Zaldor
I had this stuck in my head all day today as well... No good!
- Justin Korn
ok - now im about to lose it - ive been whistling this song for 50 minutes - how will i get to bed now - dave you are getting a noogie when we meet!
- Allen Stern
ok - so the train took forever to come, it's humid and the only thing that kept me smiling was singing this song - people probably thought i was a bit nutty from all the smiling :)
- Allen Stern
I think a sequel could be good but "An insider tells The Sun: 'The idea is Maverick is at the Top Gun school as an instructor - and this time it is he who has to deal with a cocky new female pilot.'" that description sounds like Grease II to me.
- RAPatton
I think the real question is will there be another ridiculous volleyball game in this film?
- James Ferguson
Yuck! This is one sequel I won't be seeing.
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"If Cruise agrees to reprise his role, Top Gun II would be a surefire box office hit." I don't see that as a given...
- Michael W. May
I agree, not a good idea. And James, I don't think that volleyball game was ridiculous. ;-)
- Trish R
It sounds so bad I might actually go and see it just to see how bad it can get
- Rubin Sfadj
Since it has been 20 years, they should make it Great Santini-ish with him losing his edge and making bad choices in order to try to stay the best.
- RAPatton
What? Noooo! For the love of all that is good and holy.... noooo!
- felix
Well, he was young man with young man's issues in the first. Now he would be a middle aged with middle aged issues. I mean, Tom Cruise is not going to be Robert Duvall, but I think you could make a good film showing how fighter pilot, who was the best, dealing with his body not letting him be the best anymore. The character was reckless in the first, and I would think this would have...
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- RAPatton
Menlo Park is a smart place for a Tesla dealership. Close to lots of people who drive by and can afford one (Sand Hill Road, Atherton, etc)
- Omar Shahine
I hadn't heard of these before. They sure don't look electric.
- Gus Perez
"The White House this afternoon accidentally sent to its extensive distribution list a Reuters story headlined "Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan -- magazine.""
- newsjunk.com
Heh. Gotta love our bumbling White House. Lucky they didn't accidently send out the codes that launch the nukes. :-)
- Dave Winer
I remember when Eric started out as a cub reporter at KTLA; look how far he's come.
- Aron Michalski
Is that Michaela Pereira of Internet Tonight and TechLive fame?!! Wow that takes me back...
- Zach Underwood
wow, I think the thing is you should not have people who don't care about tech reporting on tech. that's like having a football brodcaster call a hockey game.
- Greg Wilker
from twhirl
As much of a jackass as he was, he was right. It's just a frakking phone, not the second coming of Christ.
- Nicholas Sanders
Talk about wankers! I would have asked him, "Have you ever got laid?" LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
It was a whole lot funnier when Triumph did it in the Star Wars line
- Chris Rivait
This is why I hate broadcast journalism.
- David Cohn
when pushed on this being journalism he took the mic away, speaks volumes doesn't it
- robert steburg
Let's see...I'll make fun of a guy who's been standing in line for a long time...yeah THAT will work well! Don't ask the question if you don't want the smackdown! That video is FUNNY!
- Jeff Garlick