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sofarsoShawn, Sascha Silberholz Wasek, водка и актимель and 131 other people liked this
Just, you know, trying to break the internet and stuff...
- Josh Haley
Interesting..
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
super
- K.D.
You spin me right round, baby Right round like a record, baby Right round, round, round
- pea
the guy in the middle is behind :0
- jcunwired
...hahahahahaha! very amusing. i could watch this for hours and hours....
- .LAG liked that
LMAO!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
wINAGE
- Johnny Worthington
i don't know about hours and hours but it is mysteriously fascinating.
- pea
ohh trippy
- Jay
mommy make it stop.
- Jim Halligan @jim
这是啥么意思？
- FlyMeToTheMoon
Um, yes, this is what I mean?
- Josh Haley
@flytothemoon 看这个 https://friendfeed.com/junrxu... 他这是gif版本的，看起有点晕：）
- K.D.
Wooop wooopp woooppp
- Mo Kargas
Dude, quit jacking up the tubes!
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
Oh my... yup, just oh my!
- Rachel Lea Fox
holy moly... this is what you do when i skype with my mom?
- Trish Haley
O
- sean percival
M
- sean percival
G
- sean percival
Maybe I should have added some music to go with it all. Hi honey. I'm not bored, honest!
- Josh Haley
I leave you guys alone for a few hours and THIS happens! What did you do to him?!?
- vijay
i'm getting dizzy... and now we're talking about MJ dying... :(
- Trish Haley
DIZZY ASS SHIT.
- Caroline
going by the view stats on twitpic, the middle dude is the most popular! =P
- vijay
We hate that one. He gets all the attention.
- Josh Haley
they ALL freak me out.
- Tim Hoeck
I'm feeling a little nauseated.
- Anne Bouey
+Anne--Right about the time I forget about this, it shows up again. Too funny.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
interesting. I've tried a few times to get animated images to work on FF without success.. I guess piping it through twitpic might be the answer!
- veo
veo, yeah Twitpic, RSS (MediaRSS), Delicious, Tumblr all seem to work. There are more than that but those come to mind.
- Josh Haley
can i get this as a screen saver?
- Joshua Schnell
Sure, how's $200 sound?
- Josh Haley
sembrano le mie palle che girano ... ops lo sapevate che ho tre coglioni ?
- Ilbellodelweb
translation of ^^^ "my balls seem to run ... ops did you know that I have three hilt?" I think I need another translator.
- Josh Haley
nope.. that sounds about right ;)
- Tim Hoeck
اسکل
- Mil∂d
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winneh!
- Christopher Harley
you evil genius!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Feeling a little dizzy?
- Kevin J Hatton
Just one question, Josh: are you by chance spinning on 9 different Aeron chairs that were a steal after the first dot-com bubble burst? The future of the internets: you're looking at it =)
- Micah Wittman
Bingo!
- Josh Haley
could anybody describe how to create such a picture? thx
- Arnaud Fischer
Arnaud, see http://friendfeed.com/mokarga... for tips. And Josh correct me if I'm wrong, he uploaded to Twitpic the same animated GIF 9 times, then created a friendfeed post and attached all 9 images by URL (instead of choosing images from his hard drive). Images coming from twitpic, soup.io, etc will animate, but photos hosted by friendfeed itself won't.
- Micah Wittman
Hahaha, nice :)
- Simon Wicks
Sir... my muse
- Johnny Worthington
@Micah: awesome, thanks!
- Arnaud Fischer
Did not sleep well with all the spinning. :p
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
It's infinitely more amusing when they don't all load at the same time. Spinning chaos!!!
- CAJ, somewhere else
Why the friendfeed limitation on animated .gifs? It seems arbitrary and odd to me. I could see wanting to limit filesize (animated .gifs can get large) but you can upload huge .jpgs without any trouble.
- veo
@_@
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Mesmerizing like a lava lamp. Hey! You are a 'Lame-o Lamp'! And you might want to call the folks in the makeup department and get that forehead de-sheened. Remember, your forehead is an alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle - And you don't want to blind the crew on their final approach, do you? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Good luck trying to land anything on that while it's moving. :p I can always count on my brother.
- Josh Haley
/ : )
- © D/\\/IIID ℠ ®
Hypnotic!
- Gordon Herd
ay tweetted 17 hours nonstop
- Petr Buben
Without clicking on 57 comments, it's probably been said but 'Hair cut.'
- beersage
Is that a question or a remark, beersage? And why not read comments before you comment?
- Josh Haley
You spin me right round, baby Right round like a record, baby Right round, round, round You spin me right round, baby
- BEX
This is warping my brain
- Alex Scoble
aaaaccckkkkkk!
- AJ Batac
OMG! That should be the next installment at some fluecy deucy art museum!!! AWESOME. :) It's like whack-a-mole... I keep trying to figure out which one will show your face next and for some reason I'm always wrong.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Thanks, Lindsay! :) I think that's the first time someone described wanting to systematically hit me on the head repeatedly, yet have it come off as a compliment. I would love to take credit like I was Andy Warhol or something, but alas I was just tired and felt like doing something silly. :p
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
yep, what Lindsay said. That was one of the first bona-fide instances I've seen of using Friendfeed as a medium for net art. You could get in the Whitney & stuff. GOOD JOB
- Kamilah Gill
LOL! I actually didn't mean it the way it came out (the hitting you on the head part, the compliment part is ok ;)). But I'm in tears laughing when I read your reply. Whack-a-mole always frustrated the heck out of me... I did a lot more staring than hitting when I tried to play. It was mesmerizing.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Mil∂d :))))))
- © D/\\/IIID ℠ ®
جلال بیا این اسکل رو بببین
- Mil∂d
شبیه پاپک هست
- Mil∂d
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) میلی نکبت
- Papak
feeling dizzy !
- Swaroop
don't laugh now, but i'm in the process of making this a screensaver!
- Joshua Schnell
I gotta see that!
- Josh Haley
WANT
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
funy !
- سیدیونس
*splodes*
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Hypnotic, eerie, dare I go so far as to say "scary"? I dare not, lol
- Slappy Line
You just did. ;)
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
you wait - the scary part of this comes when one of these ffoodoo heads stops turning, starts grimmacing and talking to you ..... have you seen one of these heads actually get up off the chair and curse the world??? ... the seeming dissynchronicity, the haphazard discord with which these dollheads turn might drive you ...nuts
- Petr Buben
inquietante...
- Miketrevis
How can you not like this? I wish I knew!
- Goran Zec
The middle one KNOWS something.
- Goran Zec
:(
- Josh Haley
ya done broke it. . . . head is spinnin'.
- Rob Schieber
It's my birthday and I'll spin if i want to.
- Josh Haley
Happy birthday Josh!!!!!!!!!
- Rachael Worthington
from iPhone
why do you spin right?? why not left? you should spin left ..... its your party, so spin. but balance it reasonably..
- Petr Buben
you remind me of six apostles showing the time .... showing up spinning on top of the hour ......
more...
- Petr Buben
Ahhhh...the Spinning Haley...yes, I am smiling again. Thank you good people. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
If you hit escape, I might stop spinning.
- Josh Haley
There is no escape!
- Micah Wittman
.
- سیدیونس
AYBABTU
- Josh Haley
To everything - turn, turn, turn // There is a season - turn, turn, turn...
- Micah Wittman
[Hashtag Directory]: What is your URL or profile: #whatsyoururl
rowlikeagirl, John (a.k.a. dendroica), Scott of Two Countries and 2 other people liked this
Feel free to add your profiles to any of the services below and/or follow others from the links:
- Kol Tregaskes
You can find most of my links on my site; http://www.matt1604.com/ Do you know of anyone who can do a redesign for me? I'm not too big a fan of the in-built RapidWeaver themes.
- MλTT
So far I've posted Last.fm, Google Reader, Flickr and Posterous + the FF Google Map.
- Kol Tregaskes
SocialWhois, duh! ;-) http://socialwhois.com/directe...
- directeur
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
directeur, did you check the hashtag link?
- Kol Tregaskes
The search, you mean, Kol? Oh, yes, I posted my posterous on one of these :)
- directeur
Ah #sorrydidntknew :)
- directeur
No worries, I've made it a little clearer above I hope. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I kinda like how you're doing these. You seem to be getting everyone some extra traffic.
- MλTT
Matt, yep, it's good to have this on your profile page and we all know it's there but it's also good to have posts like these to highlight your pages. I think most people on these lists gain a lot of new contacts/followers/subscribers.
- Kol Tregaskes
Well, I find that having these "Homepage:" sections on profiles for FF and Twitter and such are pointless. People rarely actually visit your profile, unless they're about to subscribe. Having something like this gets your links out in public and generates far more traffic.
- MλTT
Kol, no flattery, but I really appreciate and respect what you're doing on FriendFeed. Chapeau monsieur! Really a pleasure to have you here!
- directeur
No worries, directeur. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Last.fm: http://ff.im/6apHI
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Reader: http://ff.im/6mh5s
- Kol Tregaskes
StumbleUpon: http://ff.im/63xOT
- Kol Tregaskes
Flickr: http://ff.im/6fYS8
- Kol Tregaskes
And add yourself to the Google Map of FriendFeeders: http://ff.im/6krN3
- Kol Tregaskes
I've got the best posterous subdomain, now time to fill This posterous: http://this.posterous.com :)
- directeur
Nice. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
vi.sualize.us: http://ff.im/6mtGU
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Talk: http://ff.im/6mySB
- Kol Tregaskes
Twitter: http://ff.im/6pxKw
- Kol Tregaskes
Wakoopa: http://ff.im/6pENu
- Kol Tregaskes
Facebook: http://ff.im/6pQHM
- Kol Tregaskes
Twine: http://ff.im/6szdT
- Kol Tregaskes
Streamy: http://ff.im/6zjyI
- Kol Tregaskes
brightkite: http://ff.im/6C5Qf
- Kol Tregaskes
socialmedian: http://ff.im/6sz0h
- Kol Tregaskes
PostRank: http://ff.im/6t46N
- Kol Tregaskes
Raptr: http://ff.im/a1jHP
- Kol Tregaskes
Steam: http://ff.im/a1doJ
- Kol Tregaskes
PSN (PS3): http://ff.im/cOEym
- Kol Tregaskes
LinkedIn: http://ff.im/7y99K
- Kol Tregaskes
Soup.io: http://ff.im/5zlDL
- Kol Tregaskes
Wii: http://ff.im/wFXg
- Kol Tregaskes
Xbox: http://ff.im/dL1Y
- Kol Tregaskes
Feel free to add your profiles to any of the services above and/or follow others from the links.
- Kol Tregaskes
What is your Google Reader URL? Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... #greader
Armin, Nick Bradbury, nat bas and 125 other people liked this
I share all sorts. :-) Lots of photos, photography and tech stuff though. Feel free to sub to me if you like. :-) BTW, you can see who is following you here: http://www.google.com/reader... #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks, Michael.
- Kol Tregaskes
More often I end up sharing directly through FF even if I find it on GReader, but sometimes I share there. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Tony, Paradox of FF
http://www.google.com/reader... Just about internet!
- ★ Soner Gönül
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Michael, it's not been clear until very recently, you can see notifications here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kol Tregaskes
Love yr posts :-)))))
- Johni Fisher
thanks for starting this thread - here's mine http://www.google.com/reader... (mostly social media stuff, a little food, and occasional randomness)
- Chris Rogers
Kol, thanks! I wish it would tell me when they started following, I'll have to keep a better eye on it now.
- Michael Fidler
Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - hope you enjoy!
- outofmyarse
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
http://www.google.com/reader... - Always looking for more ppl to share links!
- Liza
Ah so that's your name, M F! ;-) I'm wanting to live in that area too, nice around there?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes it's alright I moved here two years ago, I was in West London before that
- M F
GREAT FEED - I am finding so many great ppl to follow - this is great.
- Liza
M F, I like to move to just over the other side of the stream from you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And your pics are great! I am going to be stuck in greader for a while!
- Liza
Well wave your hand Kol when you get here
- M F
http://www.google.com/reader... - But I only really use google reader as a simple RSS reader. Follow people on FriendFeed.
- Anton Tanderup
Hehe, M F. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kim Landwehr
Thanks for your latest bookmark there, Kim. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
feedly.com :)
- Zach Landes
http://www.google.com/reader... but everything I share in reader comes on to FriendFeed.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
http://www.google.com/reader... - the stuff I share there is also on FriendFeed.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
http://www.google.com/reader... mine are mostly science items
- Sally Church
Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - Mostly Tech.
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... - mixed up content in Portuguese (mainly), English and Spanish.
- Marcos
Liza, oooh I love the post on generating Mandelbrot fractals in Excel!
- Sally Church
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Thanks everyone! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
http://www.google.com/reader... Google and other tech stuff, as well as other random things of interest.
- Californian
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Politics, photography, humor, news, tech, entertainment
- amygeek
Thanks for starting this conversation Kol!
- amygeek
No worries, Amy. :-) Thank you all!
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't know that I have one, as I eschew most things Google....
- Mike Shields
Not sure if I've already shared it, but my URL is http://www.google.com/reader....
- Tyson Key
Thank you guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
your welcome kol
- Tony C (Unrated)
from IM
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I think that I over-loaded my poor G-Reader by adding all of you. ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Here is my feed: http://l.clipotech.com/shared - I will try to add all of you on this list :)
- Svartling
Don't forget to add all out new contacts in to groups. Otherwise we cant comment on each others shared items.
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... - Almost exclusively tech, including humor/cartoons and productivity.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
here's mine! Love some of the new features... http://www.google.com/reader...
- tomit
I don't think I added mine yet: http://www.google.com/reader...
- LogEx
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Almost missed this one! http://www.google.com/reader...
- Patrik Arwengrim
I guess I best start sharing stuff, then. :D - http://www.google.com/reader...
- Bette Cooper
http://www.google.com/reader... - I guess I'm a bit late to the party, but here's mine. I share mainly technology, photography, design... and other random stuff.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Thank you all.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes! The list I was looking for! I'll get my info on here as soon as I get on my netbook
- Kamilah Gill
from email
Thanks for posting this Kol. Never paid any attention to my shared items folder before but just did!
- Martha
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Vince, exactly!
- Kol Tregaskes
Not sure how I missed this thread. I share lots of tech news, some programming stuff and a little more at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Rob Diana
There is also a group that collected a bunch of reader shares at http://friendfeed.com/share-y...
- Rob Diana
http://www.google.com/reader... - Or just go to: Sharing settings on your google reader shared items and search for: Avi Joseph
- Avi Joseph
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
http://www.google.com/reader... - topics include a bit of everything, but there's a fair about of Android-related stuff in there
- Chuck Falzone
http://www.google.com/reader... - German - mostly politics and crude funny things. Maybe some new technology
- JoeD
Thank everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... I mostly share ART with a little bit this and that thrown in for good measure.
- Kimber Scott
Ryo: Same here :) "completely moved to Google Reader / Twitter / Posterous" All my followers, please subscribe to me on Google Reader: http://www.google.com/reader... or my lifestream: http://l.clipotech.com/lifestr...
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... -- nothing shared yet; still learning several social networks & services, so it might take me a while...
- Dennis Jernberg
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
easier to just follow and edit groups from search url>http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ru Viljoen
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you very much, Rob!
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Right now I'm testing it in comparison to Netvibes. It's yet to be seen if I end up making the switch.
- Brad Williamson
http://www.google.com/reader... Mainly photography related things.
- Sven
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
My shared stream is at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Paul Jacobson
Paul, can do that but it will be out of date the moment I post it as I'm getting more new users all the time.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe someone could hook up something via Yahoo Pipes (or whatever) to automatically generate the OPML?
- Tristan Seligmann
Damond, I'm getting that deja vu feeling. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Whoa, hey, I'm late to this. I'm here: http://www.google.com/reader... :-)
- Jordan Hofker
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Please dont tell me I have to add everyone manually like I did with Facebook yesterday?? *sigh*
- Julia Ault
http://www.google.com/reader... link to my bundle with all my feeds that i have in friendfeed too
- Chris Hofmann
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
Thanks all!
- Kol Tregaskes
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
spread those tentacles thats what i say (I'm generally sharing comics, animation, and interesting weirdeness) : http://www.google.com/reader...
- Paul Greer
Exactly, Paul. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
There are a few people that have not added me to a group and so I cannot reply to some of your comments. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
phew..
- Paul Greer
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
https://www.google.com/reader... - Customized with numbers
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... GReader, Twitter, and Delicious (plus my own sites) are my primary hubs now. Y'all please join me on GReader.
- Chris Baskind
http://www.google.com/reader... late as always
- Raymundo Roxas
Thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Trying Google Reader.. Share your friendfeed feed WITHIN Reader. (see http://ff.im/6WRIk)
- Chris Myles
http://www.google.com/reader... - Claude LaFrenière aka climenole :)
- Claude LaFrenière
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... - Russ jackson
- Russ Jackson
http://www.google.com/reader... please add!
- Brendon Wadey
Jesse, I saw your share of this FriendFeed thread on Google Reader!
- John E. Bredehoft
David, I use mobile Google Reader on an older phone with Windows mobile. My bookmark begins with google.com/reader/m/view
- John E. Bredehoft
Here's mine...http://www.google.com/reader...
- Oscar Antonio Moralí
Aloha! http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ryan
check it out...http://www.google.com/reader...
- Cos
Will share tech, science and skepticism, and education news stories: http://www.google.com/reader...
- TC
in case anyone missed it, mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- David Gross
more cool
- Brent - Loving Life
I share interesting articles about Internet music, social media, open content and copyright issues: http://www.google.com/reader...
- David Holmes
Startup Weekend Tokyo & GeeksOnaPlane Japan (Dec 2009) - http://500hats.typepad.com/500blog...
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Brands Continue to Keep It 'Real,' but for How Long? - http://adage.com/article...
Johni Fisher liked this
Sometimes I think that @sarahcuda is the only one of us doing real tech journalism and articles like this is why: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Johni Fisher and Kartik Agaram liked this
And you thought FriendFeed was doing bad - check out Google Reader:
Jason A. Samfield, Paul Harvey, Mitchell Tsai and 60 other people liked this
Regarding FriendFeed's numbers, be sure to see here: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
I forget to use Google Reader. I prefer FF
- Mike Nencetti
Also see: http://friendfeed.com/jessest...
- Jesse Stay
Isn't that because the URL most people use for Google Reader is http://www.google.com/reader ?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken is right. I always use http://www.google.com/reader. You can also get feeds on http://www.google.com/ig/ Jesse, it's time for you to retire from stats mayhem.
- Louis Gray
Remember, 65.4% of all stats are made up on the spot.
- Ken Sheppardson
i use google.com/reader too
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Web 1.0 is to Web 2.0 as Alexa is to Compete.
- AJ Kohn
There will also be users coming from other countries like us here (google.ca/reader).
- AJ Batac
Louis, I'm simply sharing the same type of stats you did with FriendFeed. Who shall retire first?
- Jesse Stay
Louis shared stats for FriendFeed using the wrong URL?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, http://reader.google.com is how I access Google Reader
- Jesse Stay
See how it redirects to www.google.com/reader?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, my point is Louis's stats mean as much as mine do - there are way more factors that go into this, I agree
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, without demeaning you personally, this is false and ridiculous. FriendFeed is a domain, a specific one, and I chose the primary domain. Google Reader is a subdomain or directory, and you chose the one that, as you show, nobody uses. The Alexa data you showed for FriendFeed illustrated something that nobody is experiencing. This isn't gamesmanship. It's just wrong, again.
- Louis Gray
I have a hard time understanding the fights and points Jesse chooses to get into.....just baffling.
- Matthew DeVries
So let's take this constructively - what's a better way of comparing the two if http://reader.google.com is a bad way?
- Jesse Stay
Neither.... it's apples and oranges.
- Jason Williams
Jason - considering some use FriendFeed as a replacement for Google Reader it's not apples and oranges - they're competition.
- Jesse Stay
Really? Why on earth would anyone use FF over Reader? FF complements Reader but shouldn't supplant it. Is there really a constructive way to read rss feeds here?
- Jason Williams
Jason, many people do that - it always comes out when Scoble is threatening to leave Reader. It's also why your FriendFeed stats now show up with your Feedburner stats.
- Jesse Stay
looks like we gotta get louis to work more hours to get that chart moving in the right direction!
- Allen Stern
Amen Allen (that's the spirit)! I'd love to see more stability and more focus on core functionality, not the social features. More stats, more organizational tools, more sharing tools. Better UI. Less bugs. I would use it more if that were the case.
- Jesse Stay
Give me a better way to manage thousands of items a day and I'll read thousands of items a day. For now I've had to reduce my use due to how bulky and hard-to-manage it all is.
- Jesse Stay
for the record i rarely to never use google reader.
- Allen Stern
when friendfeed shows me full content RSS feeds instead of just title links, let me know. until then, I'll keep using Google Reader. that's the same notion that twitter is a replacement for it. I get it but it doesn't work for me.
- Bill Kinney
Jesse knows that I read more than 1,000 items per day and am connected to more than 1,000 people via shared item feeds. The graph above is not valid. Google Reader is a great complement to FriendFeed, and always has been. It's the vast majority of my feed. Reader is also, very flexibly, able to share to different sites, including Twitter and Facebook.
- Louis Gray
Yes, Bill. Jesse is just grumpy today. :) He knows better than to post data without any substance and try and get a faux argument going. He also is tempting me to post a SocialToo traffic chart and compare it to Twitter. :)
- Louis Gray
i think that louis and jesse need a "time out" - both of you to your respective corners for a juice box
- Allen Stern
No way, Allen! Not when there are great injustices in this world! :)
- Louis Gray
louis i just sat through 4 hrs of city council hearings at city hall - not once did google reader or friendfeed come up :)
- Allen Stern
Jesse, the difference is that Readers traffic isn't dependent on who else is also using it. As much as Google would like it to be, it's not a social tool. I can get my FF feed in Reader but not vice versa. Do you really get your "news" from FF? It's the same thing with Twitter. People try to make it a RSS replacement but it isn't no matter how much you want it to be. 140 characters might be ok for links and quick social commentary but in depth news, not so much.
- Jason Williams
Allen, but they did mention a series of tubes, at least in passing I'm sure :)
- Micah Wittman
*thinks of how to talk Jesse down from the ledge...* Jesse, Hi :) At best you are criticizing conventional wisdom web statistics in general and mixing it with a clearly flawed swipe at Reader. ### Now, carefully, come back from the precipice and live to fight another day.
- Micah Wittman
You guys are all proving my point - that this argument is just as crazy a claim as this one is here: http://friendfeed.com/louisgr... - you can't trust stats
- Jesse Stay
I use Feedly, which is off the back of Google Reader
- Ian May
Jesse, nobody has proven your point. The only point that has been made is that you made a mistake and tried to draw a parallel, and you failed.
- Louis Gray
Of course you can trust stats, Jesse. You just have to understand how they were collected, what they mean, and not try to use them to support some completely unrelated hypothesis. I've seen two graphs of US and global FriendFeed visitor stats that support two different statements... that US usage is down and global usage is up, respectively. The graph you've created for reader.google.com is irrelevant and immaterial, for reasons given above.
- Ken Sheppardson
I could be wrong, but a certain someone who pronounced FF as dead cited that new features in GR were going to kill it. Just sayin'. Also just sayin' - I'm with Louis on this one. The combination of Google Reader and Friendfeed have changed the game for me, bigtime.
- jcunwired
Surely not.
- Will Higgins™
I'm probably in the minority but I have replaced Google Reader with FriendFeed. Pretty much for discussions like this one. I'm not sure I find the same value in Reader, I tend to bookmark and re-visit the same sites anyway. FriendFeed brings something to the table that a bookmark just doesn't. Reader, not so much. At least not for me.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
We need a UFC match between Louis Gray and Jesse Stay. The 9-lettered names of mayhem!
- beersage
I'd like to append my last post with, I still scan GR, so the previous comments about using GR and FF together as a powerful combination--in practice, if not in heart--I'm in agreement with.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
See what happens when I stayed in GReader (and some Twitter) all day, I missed a good thread. I read/skim a little over 1,000 posts a day, I'm not sure if I read more than Louis (42,597 items in last 30 days) but it's my information center. Friendfeed use to be my place for discussions around the news, since engagement has dropped here (for me at least), I've moved back to Twitter for a fraction of that engagement (FB for friends/coworkers/family).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I never knew there was a reader.google.com
- Richard Lawler
Almost all of Google's (non-acquired) properties can do both whatever.google.com and google.com/whatever which is very smart actually.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
On the subject, I must thank Louis, Jesse and many others that act as filters on GReader BTW. When I don't have time to go through the bulk, these guys help bring the cream to the top. I try to do my part in filtering for others but I feel that it's a team effort to bring the signal to others as automated filters aren't smart enough (yet).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Funny, I cut back on my usage of both services and the graph goes down. You can blame Scoble now. I don't use Google Reader anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Don't talk about yourself in the third person.
- Mark
I blame Scoble for the drop in the Twitter chart as well then. <smirk>
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
My use has gone down significantly and I'm seriously looking for the perfect solution to replace it. Hoping Seesmic or Tweetie or Tweetdeck do that soon. See: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
I now know Louis's Kryptonite - criticize Google Reader ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert, please don't leave Gmail, because I still need that. Thanks.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Jesse - I agree with your April blog post 100%. I also want to mention that Google Alerts is also a helpful tool for monitoring blog posts. (And without a doubt, most of us use it.)
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Jesse, kryptonite would weaken someone if it were their personal poison. I am not weakened by your inaccuracies and stubbornness. :)
- Louis Gray
Anyone know what Feedly's numbers are??
- Roberto Bonini
it is still my best organic conversational real time tool...
- Yann Ropars
Feedly is actually down 11% in Nov as well. http://siteanalytics.compete.com/feedly...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Is this a trend?? The holiday season and all?? What about Feedburner stats?? If RSS usage (i.e for RSS clients) is in decline (unlikely) it would show up there.
- Roberto Bonini
manieles: feedly's content is generated dynamically in the browser so the metrics you are pointing to are just metrics of our blog (most users download feedly from the mozilla (and now chrome) sites. 2009 was a good year for feedly: we grew 1,527% from Dec 08 until Dec 09. http://twitter.com/edwk...
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ah, I guess that makes my comment above moot. There goes that theory.
- Roberto Bonini
Sorry Edwin, just like reader.google.com the compete numbers don't show the story of true use.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
No problem Mark (it happens a lot). Roberto: Feedly is still relatively a niche service compared to Friendfeed and Google Reader so your theory could be correct. I do not have visibility into the Google Reader usage information but I can say that the underlying infrastructure keeps on getting better and innovating at a very fast pace. They have the foundation for a distributed...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
Sounds like what I said about FriendFeed :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Friendfeed is down but they are not dead. It all depends on if Facebook will decide to invest and move the service forward or not. If they do not, at some point Twitter and Facebook will have a super set of the friendfeed features and at that point their will be no turn around possible. Friendfeed sold out too early.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, Jesse is having an off day. Feedly is doing fantastically. Google Reader continues to have the #1 position in RSS and things are flourishing with their social features. FriendFeed has great technology and a fantastic community, but stalled momentum. Jesse should be in better form in about 5-7 days.
- Louis Gray
Jesse are you sick *again*? I told you to eat more bacon! :-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Would be interesting to see a metric that measures total number of posts having comments and likes versus total posts and compare that to the "glory days" of Friendfeed. How much different is the engagement now?
- Steve
Louis is basing his "FriendFeed is down" on faulty stats - that's the point of this thread. FriendFeed's just fine: http://staynalive.com/article... - I agree Reader and RSS are fine. So is FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Steve, you can always use FriendFeed's advanced search to find 100 comments and likes posts.
- Louis Gray
Jesse, discussing this with you is getting boring. That post was wrong and based on data even worse than the public information I used.
- Louis Gray
Nothing on the Internet is dead until the servers are unplugged and the information is not cached elsewhere. There could be 1 unique user on a site and it still could be very useful for that one person.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark, that's correct. I covered that when I said I would still find value if I were the last FriendFeeder. What's frustrating about this nonsense of a thread is that Jesse made a mistake with his graph and continues to stand by it.
- Louis Gray
As did Louis (I'm not standing by this graph - I was making a point), and he continues to stand by his (about FriendFeed traffic being down)
- Jesse Stay
Because it is down.
- Louis Gray
Louis, if you think my post is wrong, how about a post proving my points wrong
- Jesse Stay
:-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
It is a waste of time. It also does not benefit me or the community to make high visibility of negativity around this site. That's why I posted what I did here previously, also knowing it tends to be written about and spun by other blogs.
- Louis Gray
I don't think Louis believes his graph is wrong - who's the stubborn one? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Congratulates Jesse and his graph for making my best of day on FF. I am not a fan of Google reader. the graph looks accurate to me and the feedback I see of GR.
- Mike Nencetti
Jesse: I am confused. It seems that the point you are trying to make is that graphs are wrong in general and that both friendfeed and RSS are fine. Is that correct?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, correct
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I believe that Compete.com data is not perfect, but it is the best publicly available data that we have. I also believe that the trends it portrays about this specific site are 100% accurate. Your data showing Google Reader at zero is laughable and an embarrassment to your reputation.
- Louis Gray
Mike, this didn't make "best of day". It made "most obtuse of the day". :)
- Louis Gray
Jesse: which metric would you use to determine if friendfeed as a service is up or down?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
It is not showing it at 0 - it is showing it at very low.
- Jesse Stay
Google Reader's traffic is hidden within www.google.com's data. Dare I add iGoogle for RSS feeds into that picture as well. However, Friendfeed's traffic is not hidden (for US Traffic) in Compete's numbers.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse relied on Alexa data (which is the ugly stepsister of Compete.com), and he suggested that Bret Taylor's graph showing a higher percentage of international users suggested growth, when, more accurately, it portrayed that US visitors fell away at a dramatic rate.
- Louis Gray
Louis: May be you and Jesse are looking at this from different angle and are both right
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Nah. Edwin, I will always support good data. :) This is bad data.
- Louis Gray
Quantcast shows a similar decline. Every service that is respected shows a decline. http://www.quantcast.com/friendf...
- Louis Gray
Louis, I never denied yours was based on US data. My point was FriendFeed was not down, which you claimed it to be.
- Jesse Stay
May be Friendfeed has a lot more persian users which are less active but nevertheless users. But over all Friendfeed has a lot less momentum and engagement because the early adopters have moved to twitter
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jesse, I continue to claim that global traffic worldwide, including US and non-US traffic is down, period. And even if you were right, turning this into Orkut or Friendster is not a thing to be proud of.
- Louis Gray
Jess: the problem is that down is not as important as momemtum and innovation.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, again, you're showing the wrong state re: Quantcast - click the "all" link and you'll see something more reflective. They're down in the short-term (at least in the US), but not in the long-term.
- Jesse Stay
There' nothing wrong with Alexa from a world view. Just don't mix numbers between Compete, Quantcast and Alexa. Compete clearly shows the US usage has dropped.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Louis, I never turned this into a comparison of Orkut and Friendster - where is this coming from?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the short term is the start of the long term. You know better than this.
- Louis Gray
I am. Those are sites dominated by non-US visitors, contrasted with Facebook and Twitter.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I disagree the short-term is the start of the long term
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: One simpler question for you: do you think that there is a chance for friendfeed to regain momentum and flourish without an engineering team behind it?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, absolutely, but I think there will be an engineering team behind it eventually
- Jesse Stay
and there is an engineering team behind it currently, or it would not be able to handle the current traffic.
- Jesse Stay
Hmm. Do you have another example to point us to? Where will the engineering come from eventually?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, Facebook
- Jesse Stay
Friendfeed is clearly transforming. It may gain momentum for a while until 'other services' catch up. However once a better wheel is made...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I think that you are fooling yourself
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, absolutely not - there are numbers to prove it - whether it's still FriendFeed or transforms into Facebook, it will still be around, and serving way more than it is now.
- Jesse Stay
Facebook wanted the brainpower and that brainpower is not integrated into other facebook projects
- Edwin Khodabakchian
That brainpower is still keeping FriendFeed running at the same time
- Jesse Stay
Here again. I think that you are fooling yourself
- Edwin Khodabakchian
That brainpower still believes in FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I would listen to Edwin, and Matthew Davies, and almost everyone else in this thread.
- Louis Gray
Facebook is in a hyper competitive space, those brains are working 150% on facebook projects
- Edwin Khodabakchian
You can clearly see that the FF team is porting features into FB, they are attempting to have a friend of a friend system similar to FF. IF THEY SUCCEED, FB has become Friendfeed.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse, Bret is VP of Products at Facebook and working on Connect and the dev community which reaches 100x+ more people than FriendFeed does.
- Louis Gray
Louis I didn't say FriendFeed wouldn't transform into Facebook. I did say it wasn't going away and it would continue growing.
- Jesse Stay
But it is not growing, and that entire argument is dead right there.
- Louis Gray
It is growing, your argument is dead.
- Jesse Stay
I think that you are right that it is going to stay (that is a low hanging fruit) and it might grow in some geographies (like it does in Iran because of the network effect) and because it was ahead of its time in terms of conversation, the erosion will take longer but there is no doubt that with no engineering, it is a dead end.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
AOL is not growing but it's hardly dead. Wait, I'm on Louis's side on this...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
AOL is investing massively to survive
- Edwin Khodabakchian
AOL is apples and oranges - if Facebook stops growing you can start comparing it to AOL.
- Jesse Stay
Mark, that's fine. I don't think there are sides. There's what's correct, and whatever Jesse is doing.
- Louis Gray
Or whatever Louis is doing - he seems to think he's correct, which he's not (now this is getting repetitive)
- Jesse Stay
Too bad the friendfeed team did not believe in friendfeed the same way Jess believes in Friendfeed!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, the FriendFeed team saw what we all see and sold at the right time for a fantastic opportunity.
- Louis Gray
I will agree to disagree with Louis - that's about the only way I'm backing down on this. I believe passionately in FriendFeed, and I see no reason it's dying.
- Jesse Stay
Edwin look at how much the FriendFeed team uses FriendFeed - they still believe passionately in the service. They believe so as much as I do.
- Jesse Stay
(and I never said it was dying, nor did I say I don't believe in what was built here) Go find me saying that anywhere.
- Louis Gray
Jesse: would you have sold to friendfeed?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I don't get what you are saying Louis - what is your argument?
- Jesse Stay
Start from the top. (And read your DMs). The graph you show here has zero validity and it is in no way relevant to the graph you are discussing from last week, period.
- Louis Gray
All I know is that public statistics lie. Paul B knows the real answer for FF, as does Jeff Huber for GReader stats.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Okay, so your argument is that FriendFeed is declining - isn't that the same as dying?
- Jesse Stay
If you get the flu, do you always die, Jesse?
- Louis Gray
If you lose 20 pounds, is it guaranteed that you will eventually hit zero?
- Louis Gray
Louis, okay, whatever - I see no reason it's declining
- Jesse Stay
Then you are being naive and ignoring all the public data, plus anecdotal data from this site itself.
- Louis Gray
The FF sale is more than a flu, it's a handicap scenario. It makes it harder to see a perfect future.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Louis: I am not sure that facebook was/is a fantastic opportunity for the friendfeed team. Facebook connect is awesome but this space is still at its infancy and I am not sure that the centralized facebook/twitter model will be the model of the future. Friendfeed had the advantage of understanding search really well and being distributed at its core - great asset!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, not naive at all - I shared the public data publicly on my blog, showing backed evidence the site is still growing. Where's your rebuttal? Do I have to show this again?: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Using your links in your article, Jesse, Quantcast topped out in August and has fallen significantly since. And we already noted that the Alexa data, which is the outlier, shows a small upward trend.
- Louis Gray
Louis, your argument is it's falling short-term. My argument is that it's growing long-term. My data supports that. I'm definitely not naive and frankly I'm beginning to be offended you're calling me that.
- Jesse Stay
OK. Good discussion. I think that Louis and Jess should go get a beer and huge each other. Time to go write some code!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Yes, if you put the calendar back far enough, the trajectory is upward. Of course it is. And Edwin, I can't get Jesse to drink beer.
- Louis Gray
Great, then we agree
- Jesse Stay
I agree that if you go over a 2 year calendar, traffic to FriendFeed has increased.
- Louis Gray
I guess I missed something... I've seen (1) Quantcast and Compete charts of US reach/visitors which says domestic use is down (2) an Alexa chart that says international use is up (3) a comment and accompanying chart from Bret saying "international growth has started to completely dominate since August (4) a pretty significant shift in the FFholic Most Active user list to international users, and (5) lots of anecdotal evidence from English-speaking users saying they've seen reduced (or stable) activity.
- Ken Sheppardson
...is somebody taking exception to any of those observations?
- Ken Sheppardson
Nope. Agreed, Ken.
- Louis Gray
But the entire thread originated with the Google Reader flat line, which was a mistake.
- Louis Gray
Yeah, I think everybody's just trying to ignore that at this point ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I just don't get why Jesse's trying to make this you-can't-believe-stats/charts argument. I think there's something in my list of 5 point that Jesse thinks is wrong.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jesse doesn't believe the Compete or Quantcast data showing a decline.
- Louis Gray
I don't think I ever agreed the above graph was correct - it was put there to show a point
- Jesse Stay
So you believe US usage is up, or not declining, Jesse?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I didn't mean you can't believe them - I mean they can often be deceptive
- Jesse Stay
Which is amusing, because the blue line here is identical to the same blue line I posted last week.
- Louis Gray
My head hurts.
- Ken Sheppardson
I thought I'd post it up against the same deceptive result so we were on the same terms
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - Next time use a red line .... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Sigh. I could also show a graph that over the last 120 years, GM sales are way up, and compare that to the sale of unicycles.
- Louis Gray
Just laughed out loud at that one Louis
- Hutch Carpenter
Damn, you mean Unicycles sales are up right now? Tomorrow is free shipping day.... :-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Are you saying Google Reader is like a Unicycle?
- Jesse Stay
Nope.
- Louis Gray
So Google Reader is going to be like GM?
- Jesse Stay
Ah... sorry... a light bulb just went off... showing a chart that shows US traffic is declining is deceptive in that some people who look at it might conclude that's overall activity, when in fact total, world-wide activity is steady or increasing.
- Ken Sheppardson
That's one of Jesse's theories, Ken. (Still doesn't explain the Google Reader non-sequitir)
- Louis Gray
If Google Reader is like a Unicycle, it's like the Honda's U3-X..... a very cool one!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm starting to piece this together... so showing reader.google.com traffic is declining when in fact total Reader traffic is up... ?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, correct
- Jesse Stay
reader.google.com is a domain nobody uses. Reader traffic is unknown, but certainly not the flat line displayed here.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I use reader.google.com
- Jesse Stay
I'd agree with that theory. The World growth is outpacing US internet growth.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I just took a look at the graph at http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... Turns out that although international reach is up as shown in your graph, Jesse, Alexa shows a 20% or so decrease in their pageview graph since the peak near August. More users spending less time...
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, that is short-term though, which was another point of mine. Long-term they still have an upward trend. It is still much too early to determine if they are declining yet. Maybe in 6 months you guys can all show me I'm wrong.
- Jesse Stay
Facebook bought FF in Aug, that throws a trendline in completely different direction. It's an inflection point.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark, FF took a dip after that, but they recovered and went even higher than before the FF acquisition. I wouldn't call that an inflection point.
- Jesse Stay
Which chart shows traffic higher than before the acquisition (not counting the spike after due to curious people who never heard of FF before they read it)? Are you looking at Alexa's "Reach"?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yes, Mark... Alexa's chart of international reach shows that the % of worldwide internet users who are visiting FriendFeed is up. It's also the 47th most popular site in Turkey, 227th in Italy, and 412th in Pakistan. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Mark, correct, which is more accurate because it compares visitors globally, not just US
- Jesse Stay
In fact Alexa says 20.7% users are from the US and 20.6% are from Turkey, and another 20% or so from Italy, Japan, and India combined.
- Ken Sheppardson
Right but the question would be what were those percentages between countries back in August? A shift in demographics needs to be adjusted by online population in those countries.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There's roughly 74M people in Turkey. For every 1% drop in US visits, about 4% would automatically gain for Turkey in the Pie Chart without a single new user in growth.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't believe they're breaking out the % of users in each country that are visiting FriendFeed, they're talking about what % of FriendFeed users are coming from each country.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken is correct.
- Louis Gray
Strongly Disagree. Look at my coupon work site: RedPlum.com 92.2% are from the US. I highly doubt I have that much audience but I'd love for it to be true.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Disagree with what, Mark? That stat means for every 100 people who visit your site, 92 are from the US.
- Ken Sheppardson
Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. It's a pie of % of FF visitors are coming from which country. We are on same page.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yeah, sorry... I switched from "reach" to the user breakdown midstream there.
- Ken Sheppardson
So as I was saying, a 1% drop in US visits moves Turkey up 4% when you factor populations and no new additions.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
To tie that together with Compete's US view, the US audience dropped 20% in last 90 days so Turkey would naturally rise in the pie chart regardless of new user growth from that country.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Actually digging that information a bit more, only 21.1% of the Turkey population uses the internet so the spread would widen even further.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
wow
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Interesting......
- Keith Griffiths
What a ridiculous discussion! It has already been said: the stats are apples and oranges. Let's look at the comparative numbers for internet users who are brain-dead versus those who can type. It would appear graduation from grade school bans internet access.
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Facebook hurts !
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Oh, the venue looks lovely!
- joey
A lifetime of happiness to you both. Congratulations!
- Steve
WHOOOOOOO!!!! CONGRATULATIONS! I LOVE WEDDINGS
- sofarsoShawn
Congrats to the both of you................love and kisses from LI NY
- VAL D. Zone
*buys bag of rice to throw at monitor*
- Steven Perez
It's too bad this cannot be embedded in a FF page somehow -- we could all watch the activities (and even better than being there) discuss in real time here. I guess though watching in separate window and discussing here is just about as good.
- Brian Sullivan
oh man this is exciting!
- Lo
Brian, we can discuss in this thread just like how FFundercats is done!
- Rochelle
Wow, streaming your wedding.. cool :)
- Thomas Bøhm
WE HAVE MOVEMENT
- Johnny Worthington
Pretty chairs!
- Alix Whitmire
I see the cake!
- Rochelle
We need to get Alex to give us a sign
- Johnny Worthington
What's it called when a group sends someone to an event, to spy? Not in an enemy way like a true spy, but just to be there and send signals to the outside world. Maybe that's a spy. Or a plant! Is that what it's called? Maybe we should have sent a plant.
- Rochelle
A mole?
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Congratulations!!
- martha
Also, congratulations and have fun this evening!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Yeah, a mole! That's better. Do we have a mole on the inside?!
- Rochelle
Have a great wedding Cassie and Alex. And Alex, get off FF already, you don't wanna be late for this one! ;-)
- Rene Wirtz
Now the question is, will Alex pull out his phone and update FriendFeed like that guy in the YouTube video last week pulled out his phone to update his Facebook status during the middle of the wedding?
- Rochelle
Yeah, I need to start getting ready in a few minutes...my family is coming to my room at 2:30 and then we do pictures
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Hey they're putting on table clothes right now... this is really cool!
- SAM
Congrats, can't wait to see it.
- SAM
Congrats... :) I'm going to bed now :( I thought to watch it. But, damn sleepy now.. Somebody please wake me up! I'm from IST :P
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
The chairs are beautiful.
- EricaJoy
I can't stay long, but hang in there, A & C! :)
- Micah Wittman
so happy for both of you... Congrats!
- Harold
The tree looks so pretty!
- aden
DID IT START YET? DO I HAVE TIME TO ORDER PIZZA?
- Steven Perez
Steven, you have 1 hour, 45 minutes.
- Rochelle
SWEET! IMMA GET SOME ICE CREAM, TOO!
- Steven Perez
Oh, the lights on the tree came on!
- Alix Whitmire
I wish there was sound.
- Rochelle
Sound would be nice. Very pretty room.
- LB - all new for '10!
I see people! (Well, sort of. My connection is lousy.)
- LB - all new for '10!
I don't get anything. Maybe it's reached a connection limit?
- Jason, Mosquito
Seems ok from where I am.
- Brian Sullivan
working for me too?
- holly
I can see, Jason. Maybe you need to reboot?
- LB - all new for '10!
@Laura, no it just won't let me connect. For those who are connected, I'd recommend not closing your browser.
- Jason, Mosquito
Oh, boo, Jason.
- LB - all new for '10!
holy wow! I'm grabbing some popcorn and wine. :)
- Blackeyed P
Which side is the groom's side?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Usually the right, Steven.
- LB - all new for '10!
oh look, someone's here. HI PEOPLE!
- Blackeyed P
Hmm, won't work for me. Image returns a not found symbol. Might be because I'm international
- Mo Kargas
same here Mo. Not international
- Steve
I SEE WEDDING PEOPLE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Pretty purple dress!
- LB - all new for '10!
I spy a bridesmaid!
- Blackeyed P
not working for me :(
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
rats. maybe people are having browser issues? I'm using Firefox/Mac OSX if that helps.
- Blackeyed P
Using XP with Firefox and it's working fine for me. Then again, I've had this browser session open all day.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Working okie for me on Win7 and Chrome. If it's got too many people maybe I should log off so family can get on?
- Alix Whitmire
YAY!
- Rochelle
I just logged on 10 minutes ago. I don't think it's an overload issue.
- Blackeyed P
Got Vista/Firefox working fine; also have the Modify Headers plug-in forwarding for 12.13.14.15 by default if that helps anyone, in case there's an international thing going on.
- Mark H
Haha. We're putting the wedding cam on our huge HDTV with music on in the background. What kind of music should we play?
- Rochelle
Al Green
- Blackeyed P
Barry White?
- LB - all new for '10!
Al Green, Barry White, and Marvin Gaye.
- Blackeyed P
Oohh. I'm nervous!
- Rochelle
I'm getting a broken video image :o/
- Katie is Frittering
GET. IT. ON.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It was working for me earlier and not now :( (Firefox/Vista)
- Maria Niles
Akiva can't see it with OSX. He tried Chrome, Chromium, and Safari. I can see it fine with Windows 7 and Firefox.
- Rochelle
Not working with XP/ Firefox :(
- Jimminy Fuller
I'm on Vista with Firefox. I just rebooted and still can't get it to work. :(
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Ooh! Camera pan!
- Mark H
I'm falllling.. *watches cam move*
- Alix Whitmire
HEY! WHO'S MOVING THE CAMERA?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Panning!
- Rochelle
screenshot http://friendfeed.com/orchid8...
- Blackeyed P
urgh....nothing in FF or IE
- Katie is Frittering
Cool centerpieces!
- Alix Whitmire
Vista/Firefox working here.
- LB - all new for '10!
*feels a little seasick*
- Blackeyed P
I tried loading the image manually, I get "The maximum number of clients are already connected "
- Bryce Roney
Aww, maxed out then.
- Rochelle
oh. :( I feel bad.
- Blackeyed P
I was wondering if there was a viewer limit, I'm not seeing it either and I'm just in Vancouver.
- Joe Pierce
:o( Bummer
- Katie is Frittering
Woot Got in, after about 2-3 dozen refreshes, just like old school FF fun.
- Jimminy Fuller
I bowed out since we are gaming in a bit, so hopefully other people can get in now. Someone grab me a screen shot of the two of them up there for me later? :D
- aden
How appropriate, Jimminy. ;)
- Blackeyed P
I spy Robert Scoble.
- Blackeyed P
Aden, will do.
- Rochelle
Definitely aden.
- Blackeyed P
Sarah, where is Robert?
- Rochelle
he walked past the stage and out the door on the left.
- Blackeyed P
venue is really pretty.
- Blackeyed P
So are the colors silver, white, and navy? Or is that purple?
- Rochelle
It is Sarah. :)
- Jimminy Fuller
dresses seem to be a sort of eggplant/purple. hard to tell on monitor.
- Blackeyed P
The dress looked purple earlier.
- LB - all new for '10!
The cake looks delicious.
- Jimminy Fuller
The chair ties looked blue when all of the lights were on.
- Rochelle
men are all pre-ceremonial. wandering around and looking important and nervous.
- Blackeyed P
Showtime!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Jimminy, it just looks like a white triangle. Haha.
- Rochelle
OMG I SAW ROBERT
- Rochelle
I think it looks more like a Devo Hat. But white.
- Blackeyed P
I love Christmas weddings. And that they're collecting toys for kids, that's so cool.
- Blackeyed P
Do the attendees know there's a webcam?
- LB - all new for '10!
We need a webcam with a CSI-style zoom-with-enhancement.
- Mark H
I feel like the peanut gallery. It's a good thing they can't hear us.
- Blackeyed P
photog is taking pictures of the guests.
- Blackeyed P
It's 4:30!
- Rochelle
I like how everytime the flash goes off the room gets washed out.
- Jimminy Fuller
*blinded*
- Alix Whitmire
any wedding worth its salt starts at least a few minutes late.
- Blackeyed P
Hahah. Is that Milan? He's the ring bearer.
- Rochelle
POTTY BREAK.
- Blackeyed P
Weddings never start on time.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ok the kid is back.
- Blackeyed P
I bet it's going to start! Everyone in front left.
- Rochelle
Oooh I'm already teary.
- joey
I'm at the ready with Skitch for screenshots. :)
- Blackeyed P
Thanks :)
- aden
IS IT TIME TO START THE ELECTRIC SLIDE YET?
- Steven Perez
from IM
YES OMG START IT
- Blackeyed P
this is sort of like SyFy Saturday night. Only different.
- Blackeyed P
I had the same thought, Sarah. :)
- LB - all new for '10!
*passes tissues to Joey*
- Alix Whitmire
parents being seated by ushers.
- Blackeyed P
Or ushers. ;)
- LB - all new for '10!
I am ready to throw rice at my screen
- aden
LOL. You caught it, Sarah.
- LB - all new for '10!
I only have cooked rice.
- LB - all new for '10!
No Sound ????
- johnpiercy
LOL.
- Blackeyed P
THIS IS TEH BESTEST SYFY SATURDAY NIGHT MOVIE EVAH!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Seasick!
- LB - all new for '10!
IT'S PANNING!
- Rochelle
IT EVEN HAS BETTER SFX!
- Steven Perez
from IM
oh camera pans down. i think we're going to follow the bride in?
- Blackeyed P
TO THE DOOR!
- Rochelle
Sarah, yup.
- Rochelle
This play by play rocks
- aden
or not? panning back.
- Blackeyed P
how come no sound
- johnpiercy
because. no sound. it's not mic'd.
- Blackeyed P
DO ANYBODY NO WHY DIS MOVIE IS SILENT?
- Steven Perez
from IM
HEADS TURNING.
- Blackeyed P
I see legs up front.
- LB - all new for '10!
bridesmaids coming up the aisle, meeting the men.
- Blackeyed P
HEADS UP!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Beautiful!
- joey
YAY!
- Rochelle
This is exciting!
- LB - all new for '10!
here he comes
- johnpiercy
cute!
- EricaJoy
Colors people tell me the colors!
- aden
I've never watched a wedding from my sofa in jeans.
- LB - all new for '10!
Awwwwwwwwwwww
- Alix Whitmire
STOP MOVING THE DAMN CAMERA!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Weird camera pan...
- EricaJoy
!!!!!!!!!
- Rochelle
The panning is annoying. We'd better get to see Cassie!
- LB - all new for '10!
I need some Organ music
- johnpiercy
Yay!
- LB - all new for '10!
OH, SNAP!
- Steven Perez
from IM
GORGEOUS!!!
- EricaJoy
Aww gorgeous bride!
- joey
here comes the bride
- Blackeyed P
sorry hard to comment and screenshot simultaneously
- Blackeyed P
CRYING
- Rochelle
waaah, i can't see the venue on my screen. keep your comments coming!
- Marie drinks champagne
is that purple or navy blue?
- EricaJoy
LOVE the long train on the dress.
- EricaJoy
looking good alex and cassie
- johnpiercy
I vote purple.
- Alix Whitmire
Dude, she's too pretty for Alex.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I thought it was purple, but the lighting is kind of weird.
- LB - all new for '10!
We need to zoom back up to the front.
- LB - all new for '10!
OK, now comes the boring part. SKIP TO THE END!
- Steven Perez
from IM
we need the Priest Camera
- johnpiercy
MAWWAGE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
lol
- EricaJoy
about to post some shots, see my feed in a sec for those.
- Blackeyed P
THAT DWEEM WITHIN A DWEEM ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
moar zoom!
- EricaJoy
I zoomed in with my browser!
- Rochelle
Real nice setup Alex and Cassie have here. Bridesmaids are in purple. Groomsmen are in black. Except for Robert - he's wearing Twitter blue. [/just kidding]
- Steven Perez
from IM
awww this is so sweet. I'm so happy for them.
- Blackeyed P
LOL, Steven!
- LB - all new for '10!
And they get to escape all the Christmas drama and spend the holiday in Jamaica. Lucky bastards!
- Blackeyed P
Heh.
- LB - all new for '10!
yeah i want that zoom back. why did they zoom in and out so fast?
- Blackeyed P
the camera operator needs to be on friendfeed
- EricaJoy
lol
- Blackeyed P
blah blah blah love between a man and a woman blah blah blah
- Blackeyed P
Attention to the next couple to get married live on FriendFeed: Qik or Ustream please. Or 12seconds if you're keeping it brief.
- Mark H
HAH 12second wedding.
- Blackeyed P
oh zoom!
- Blackeyed P
ZOOM!
- Rochelle
OY! Enough with the zooming!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yay zoom!!!
- Alix Whitmire
OMG
- EricaJoy
VOWS!
- Rochelle
facing each other. definitely vow time.
- Blackeyed P
VOWS!
- Steven Perez
from IM
The vid won;t play!!
- WorldofHiglet
blessing of rings, i think
- Blackeyed P
WoH it's at capacity for viewers, I think
- Blackeyed P
RINGS! ONE RING TO TWEET THEM ALL!
- Steven Perez
from IM
did he kiss her yet?
- WorldofHiglet
nope we're not there yet
- Blackeyed P
screen cap the kiss!! :) you know when it happens
- aden
i will
- Blackeyed P
Call Me Bronco - THANKS fr the Live Play by Play
- johnpiercy
MUCHAS SMOOCHES!
- Steven Perez
from IM
:) happy to do it
- Blackeyed P
awwww :)
- WorldofHiglet
alex and cassie turning to face the celebrant as he says some words
- Blackeyed P
first time Ive seen a wedding streamed ..
- johnpiercy
MUCHAS SMOOCHES FTW!!!!!
- Steven Perez
from IM
XOXOX's
- johnpiercy
W00T! ALEX AND CASSIE SCOBLE!
- Steven Perez
from IM
omg i think they HUGGED
- Blackeyed P
and now they're walking out
- Blackeyed P
Mr and Mrs Scoble
- johnpiercy
i think i missed the exact moment. lol.
- Blackeyed P
Lovely.
- Mark H
*throws rice at screen, drops pants*
- Steven Perez
from IM
Huzzah!
- aden
YAYAYAY!
- Rochelle
Now Dancing with Lampshades ?
- johnpiercy
Whoo-hoo!
- LB - all new for '10!
TIME TO GET DRUNK AND PAR-TAY!
- Steven Perez
from IM
*drops pants, too, even though I couldn't get to the video*
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
Bird Dance
- johnpiercy
Oh wow!
- WorldofHiglet
Now we need a party/reception cam.
- LB - all new for '10!
Laura, I think the reception is in the same room so we'll be able to see that, too.
- Rochelle
Congratulations Mr and Mrs Scoble!
- WorldofHiglet
that was a quick service
- johnpiercy
yay! that was sweet. ok time to make dinner now, then back to check out the reception. here come the CATERING ROUNDS.
- Blackeyed P
purple tablecloths, natch.
- Blackeyed P
BREAK FOR POTTY, THEN IT'S TIME TO EAT AND THEN GET FUNKY!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nice quick service; we approve. Purple bridesmaids; Mrs we approves. Nobody fainted; well, you can't have everything.
- Mark H
Awesome!
- LB - all new for '10!
Damn I missed it -- they are setting up now for the dinner?
- Brian Sullivan
Yep.
- LB - all new for '10!
So, there must be a bar area for guests, and then photos are being taken?
- Cristo
For some reason I thought they did pix earlier. Did Alex post something about that?
- LB - all new for '10!
Sometimes they do family shots before, and then do more photos between ceremony and reception.
- Cristo
Alex said earlier that they were doing photos before.
- Rochelle
Candlelight. :)
- Alix Whitmire
:) :) :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
Cool
- Rodfather
I am waving at you!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
The wedding was awesome. Milan almost choked at the beginning though.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yeah we saw that Robert. Too funny.
- Blackeyed P
Reception looks like fun. Tell Alex and Cassie we love the hell out of them.
- Blackeyed P
He knows that, loves you back.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
How geeky is this wedding? Three Droids and counting! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
YES! I have a connection!
- Mo Kargas
Too late :(
- Mo Kargas
Just saw their first dance! Awwww!
- Mark H
Yeah, very nice first dance!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Can you hear too? I wish you could cause I am gonna do a toast.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Nope. :(
- Alix Whitmire
No sound unfortunately
- Mo Kargas
Congratulations! Looks like a great day!
- Jim in Real Time
Best wishes for the Scoble family. Thanks for sharing with all of us!
- mrsha
Mingle mingle mingle.
- SAM
Best wishes to the Scoble family ,MAZAL TOV
- Johni Fisher
Congratulations! Best wishes!
- Anne Bouey
That was so cool :)
- Lo
That was so awesome. I read every word since I missed the streaming... :-) Congrats, Alex & Cassie!!!!
- Lisa L. Seifert
Congrats to you both! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
A long and happy life to you both. Many blessings.
- Dawn
Congrats and Mazel Tov Alex. Best wishes for you both !!!
- Nir Ben Yona
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- mandyvan
So, in your opinion, be honest now...is Friendfeed still alive and kicking? (update: seemingly so. :) )
Mitchell McKenna, Alfredo, LonelyBob and 61 other people liked this
yes. very much so.
- John Wang
Yes, but has started to develop some health problems and needs a doctor's visit.
- Alex Scoble
It is for me
- Mo Kargas
Yep
- Johnny Worthington
It definitely is for me.
- Curtiss Grymala
I just got here. It's the best platform.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
for me it is .................
- VAL D. Zone
It's still kicking :). A little less a guess but still :)
- alfred westerveld
Yes.
- Jim in Real Time
hell ya ......!
- johnpiercy
Yup.
- Spidra Webster
Hell yes it is! All the fine dudes and finest bitches still be rocking the Casbah daily and nightly here on the station with it all! K-FFD!
- Morgan Haley
Yep, still kickin'!
- Beau Liening
from iPhone
Does a bear poop in the woods?
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Ok, so I don't live here anymore, but I still check in for conversation and positivity.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
for sure
- Josh Haley
Still alive but the momentum and will to live is gone -- and the sale and virtual abandonment was like shutting out the lights in the middle of a party -- a signal for everybody to go home.
- Brian Sullivan
wow. For you maybe, Brian.
- Jim in Real Time
Yes!
- Anne Bouey
But I am still here.
- Brian Sullivan
Yep. Certainly not as crazy as it was 'back in the day' but it's definitely still kicking.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm making a concerted effort to pop in and find some great stuff to share
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
As far as I can tell, it's still alive.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
TBH, I feel like I use FF much more now that before the acquisition. So for me, yes, it's very much alive and kicking. 8^D
- Chieze Okoye
Yep
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
The Google real-time announcement certainly didn't hurt!!!!
- Charlie Anzman
Honestly, it's not that much different -- plenty to chat about, and plenty to chat with -- and it's still storing all my web finds perfectly. There's an extremely considerate and passionate community. So... sure!
- Christopher Galtenberg
yep
- Wayne Sutton
Yes.
- pea
Yes.
- Kamilah Gill
Yes
- Bonnie Foster
Somewhat less so than the previous old days...
- TrafficBug
being bought by Facebook has definitely dampened my enthusiasm, but yeah, its still alive and kicking
- Jeffrey Canton
Still seems pretty lively to me.
- Gordon Herd
This was asked eight hours ago and has gotten 19 likes so far. Not a resounding "yes."
- Robert Scoble
Compare to @ericschmidt who was added to 700+ lists and 12,000+ followers in 24 hours over on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
But 34 comments, and nearly all "Yes".
- Nils Sandin
Nils: sorry, that's not a resounding yes either. 34 people do not a service make.
- Robert Scoble
yes, affirmative.
- bora "head" basman
The service works for me, so I don't fret about the other new or old services. Both have their place.
- Nils Sandin
werd.
- imabonehead
Haha. I must say I'm starting to see more and more threads like this. The discussion is definitely coming back.
- Roberto Bonini
Twitter for headlines, FF for discussions.
- Nils Sandin
it is to me
- barbarars
It is to me - it all depends on what you make of it
- Jesse Stay
Who is here is replying "yes". Who's not here any more just won't reply. The fact is few weeks ago you wouldn't have asked :) [ah, this means it is not kicking as in the past]
- Markingegno - Donato
from Android
I would say yes. It had a slump period for me for a couple of months, but now I'm putting more in it and getting more from it in return.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Yes!
- Iván Abrego
Tricky question. Nothing else out there has this feature-set, and AFAIC that's the killer, I use FF because it's the best platform. Maybe some people drifting away since the sale, but OTOH there are new people joining. My buddies Nat and Brent from Calgary both joined around the time of the sale and have both really gotten into it. I have more discussions here than on Twitter, and I think that's true for a lot of people.
- Louis Simoneau
And @Scoble: the fact that you don't get 12 000+ followers on FF makes it less attractive to social media marketing types, which actually makes it BETTER as a platform for meeting and interacting with real people. I have 'friends' on Twitter that I've back-and-forthed with a few times but couldn't really tell you much about, whereas here, I feel like I really KNOW people like Derrick, Jandy, Monique, etc.
- Louis Simoneau
Yup
- Maryam Ardakani
from FreshFeed
its going to die soon
- Farshad
FF is like a small country town. Not a big population but people stop and say "hello".
- Barak B
Yes, indeed!
- Andrew Terry
Is this a bit like a band you feel you've discovered becoming mainstream?
- plooptionary
Yes, it's very much alive and kicking!
- Michael Fidler
+Louis Simoneau (& I answered above earlier)
- Kamilah Gill
as far as I can tell, yes.
- Derek Coward
I'm here
- Jimminy Fuller
Still alive. :)
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
You bet. Still the best interface and most interesting conversations
- Alan Morris
from iPhone
Yep. Cranking along just like Jaiku.
- Ken Sheppardson
Yep, I just saw that one of those Twitter Social Media Guru's found the place and followed 4k people in 5 minutes.
- Jimminy Fuller
...
- ★ Soner Gönül
yes. those who say otherwise can go somewhere else.
- Aron Michalski
from BuddyFeed
Hey Zee, from what platform did you originally post your question? I'm seeing it via Friendfeed by way of a friend.
- Rich Reader
@Rich on friendfeed itself
- Zee.
Only to some hardcore dedicated FF'ers. Other then that its just here for Robert Scoble to come on and preach how every worthy tech person he follows is on Twitter and how this site is dead.
- CW™
No. We're all dead. Go away.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I'm standing under the Mistletoe O_O
- Micah Wittman
Zee, regarding your question, and I'm no Godin apologist, but his '1000 true fans' comes to mind http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
- Micah Wittman
And regarding Robert's statement, OF COURSE a founder of Google will get thousands people who click the follow button. Then what? I look forward to Eric having 12,000 individual conversations this week, so someone ping me when that happens :) I've gleaned more valuable insights into the thought process and perspective of Google/Googlers from being in and around the conversations started by DeWitt on Friendfeed than I have in any other way.
- Micah Wittman
I'm not done yet. Christopher Galtenberg http://friendfeed.com/zee... and Louis Simoneau http://friendfeed.com/zee... make great points.
- Micah Wittman
Sure is
- Herb Hernandez
I have to excuse myself for not being very active for quite a while: I was being busy organising the Dutch Bloggies. I do think FriendFeed is still alive, but I sure wished there were more Dutch people to keep up a conversation with. It's making it difficult, now I'm out of organising for a week, to start up being involved again. I'm jealous at the Egyptian & Italian people, who seem to have a whole community here.
- Ton Zijp
Friendfeed is immortal, perfect, the best. Friendfeed will never die. ... in fact, the end of behemoths like Facebook and Twitter will be tweeted on Friendfeed.!
- Petr Buben
Always..!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Just got back into using FF more heavily and find it much more enjoyable to any of the Twitter clients I've found. I can actually engage with the people that I "follow" and learn more about them and find interests instead of just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff like I feel I do on Twitter
- Ian Rudy
still here.
- Mike Nencetti
alive
- gemella
kick
- Kevin Fox
Yes. The primary thing that has changed is the content.
- Steven Perez
And it no longer buys us flowers anymore, the bitch.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think this thread proves what is fact....
- Mathew™ one of a kind
WOW - I guess so!!! May have to come off digest...
- Robyn Hawk
O Hai There! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Am I the only one who got tired of responding to posts that ask if the site is still alive? "Charlie, you there? Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can you here me *now*?....I gave up on 'em after Scoble's 2nd one. Just ignore
- Itachi
Video: preparing the LeWeb 2009 venue http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
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nice list of 30 useful small business email marketing apps http://smallbiztrends.com/2009...
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Why I don't like @bing: search for "rental car." On Google Hertz is on first page. On Bing? Second page. Hertz is #1 in market.
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It's good that some people get this.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Well it is on the first page for me in both.
- Brian Sullivan
same for me Brian
- Mark
Conspiracy theorists will say they changed it after the tweet
- Mark
It's great when you can trash a whole search engine by one search in 140char or less
- Itachi
It's called "facts."
- Jeremy (on vacation)
marshallk: Warner Bros. says Twitter promos get higher click-through rates but lower conversions than promos on Facebook http://bit.ly/5BwG5g - http://twitter.com/marshal...
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Thank you to the 16,374 people/brands/objects who bring me awesome stuff every day on Twitter. Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving!
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Robert have a great holiday and thx again :)
- Johni Fisher
thanks for everything you do for all of us robert - including for cloudcontacts!
- Allen Stern
I am an object! (Or a people)
- Louis Gray
Aren't you a brand as well LG?
- Steve
Steve, depends on the perspective. I am me. Some people think LG/louisgray.com is a brand. I don't usually call it that, but don't flinch when others do.
- Louis Gray
Your brand does not define you..but you define your brand. And that is a good thing.
- Steve
The Future Has No Log In Button - http://staynalive.com/article...
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man - that is one sweet button design - me like!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Button design is courtesy Chris Messina: http://factoryjoe.com/blog...
- Jesse Stay
Although in the future you won't even see a button like that. It will all "just work".
- Jesse Stay
Jesse it was great to talk with you ,thank you for the time and good will ,I will work on the plan :)
- Johni Fisher
Evolution GIF - Changethethought™ - http://koltregaskes.soup.io/post...
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Wow!
- Kol Tregaskes
Beautiful.
- Mycaptain
Cool
- M F
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool, I think I have seen this before somewhere
- outofmyarse
Me too, I'm sure I've see a colour version but can't remember where.
- Kol Tregaskes
This sequence is from DePalma's Mission to Mars.
- Graham Sergeant
interesting
- 蓝无忧
Thank you, Graham.
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't agree with the notion that life on Earth originated on Mars (or any other planet). I think it started and evolved from chemical reactions right here. Still, love this graphic out of context.
- Kamilah Gill
Kamilah: I'm not sure what to believe about where it started but the conditions would have had to been right
- outofmyarse
Very Cool! :)
- TheHenry
there is still a chance that it was carried here from other sources (comets from other systems etc). The only thing we can say is that it's here :)
- alphaxion
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
At some point we've all come from outer-space, we're all stardust. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Helium flashes / supernova creation / and we are star dust /// #haiku
- Chris Loft
Creation out of / nucleosynthesis is / stars taking deep breaths /// #haiku
- Chris Loft
WTF...
- Ufuk İŞMAN
But how can that happen all within 6,000 years....?
- Baffled
This used to also be in a Guiness commercial I think
- Bill Rawlinson
Ah, I remember that one, Bill. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bumping some old good posts. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Very funny! This theory is a comedy.
- HasanCivelek
cool
- echostreamer
Why Google Chrome OS has already won - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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I agree: "Google is playing a different game. Google Chrome OS is NOT about killing Microsoft or Apple".
- l'Ego di Gigi
Agree with Gigi. Don't take my words just because I work for Microsoft Italy, but my question is fair I suppose. What I do with a Google Chrome OS Netbook when I do not have any kind of connectivity, for instance? For example, Italy still does not have free wifi anywhere and the rates for a GPRS/UMTS connectivity are still high in comparison to the data you want to use with them. It will be a very interesting competitive scenario soon...
- Andrea Contino
@Andrea then Google Chrome OS is not an option for you. not a big deal. Google's OS market will be anywhere which has the most important requirement for this OS which is a low price high-speed internet
- Mohamadreza
Basically entertainment and socialization is moving online. Portable devices being able to access those services is what Google is focusing on. They want to be the eco-vehicle that gets you to those things. MS, Mac, Linux can do the same, but how much overhead is there since you can do more with them then just internet activities. Its a different world they are choosing to be part of....
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- CW™
Google OS is for North America primarily. Europe and a bunch of other areas don't have ubiquitous Internet like the US. So we're talking about a fairly confined market here anyway.
- Frank Jonen
Google OS is for the Internet, and the Internet is for the whole world.
- l'Ego di Gigi
@Mohamadreza Not a big deal for me. Try to share some photos from a camera with a friend with a Chrome OS netbook without the Internet :-) That all I ment
- Andrea Contino
ChromeOS is for my mum (and for me). I can buy her this laptop, get her to plug it in and outside of hardware, my 'free tech support' ends. The root is in read only and all her stuff is on the cloud. If there is a problem, hit restart and everything goes back to normal.
- Johnny Worthington
"Why take a $1,000 computer to class? Couldn’t he do everything he needs to do on a low-cost computer" my 12 yr old kid has his Acer Aspire One, running Windows XP, definately not $1,000, good enough for web surfing, pulling up the web version of his math schoolbook, playing Mousehunt
- Tim Jones
@Andrea Contino that's exactly what I mean. I second @Frank about the fairly confined market. this OS has no place in my and your room while we do not have the bandwidth it needs :-) and even my designer would not use it. we should not blame google for this issue. this OS is designed for the internet, not to be compared with PC or Mac
- Mohamadreza
Chrome OS is everything at Google: nothing fancy but it works. And it works damn well. And I'm a long time apple fan an journalist.
- Federico Bolsoman
Right now I really, really want to convert my little netbook to Chrome, just to see how well it gets along with my Droid. They could bluetooth together and do Googly things, it would be beautiful.
- (dot)lizard kelly
Um, no. Unless companies can come out w/ sub $100 laptops (where's the profit in THAT!?!), I don't see Chrome OS being useful to nyone. I mean, if you have to spend ~$200 at least for a netbook, why not shell out another $100 or $200 for a low end notebook? Plus, even if you want a netbook for $200, Windows comes on it...so why switch to Chrome OS? No incentive.
- Scott Carmichael
Scott... That assumes that the Windows OS is free to the manufacturer. What percentage of the build costs go to the purchase of the OEM version?
- Johnny Worthington
Also, Microsoft are reported to be restricting the hardware that the Windows 7 Netbook edition can be installed on. Particularly processor speed and memory. No news yet on if that applies to ChromeOS
- Johnny Worthington
Chrome OS is clearly overhyped. There will be no $100 netbooks - at least $200 (youtube or vimeo hd don't run on ultracheap cpu's). And just a $100 difference between a limited Chrome netbook and a fully capable Win machine will cause most people choose the latter. Remember all those Linux netbooks - return rate was sky-high, so manufacturers moved back to WinXP. And those Linux...
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- Kirill Petrovsky
from fftogo
I figured it out -- Chrome OS is going to run on something like Crunchpad and its competitors (in the future maybe whenever hardware like that is available). I am guessing the market is limited though. Scoble will want one -- but he has one of everything .
- Brian Sullivan
Today I have tried ChromeOS on my EeePC....... I could survive without.
- l'Ego di Gigi
Actually, reading the comments to the Chrome-related posts, I noticed one idea people like, and which no one is against. That's a remote cloud desktop, with infinite firepower, replacing their desktop PCs. And ubiquitous access from any web-enabled device - at home and on the go. Now, who is working on that kind of technology... oh, it's Windows Azure for serving power and "3 screens and the cloud" concept for end-users.
- Kirill Petrovsky
from fftogo
Scott: Google makes billions of dollars WITHOUT SELLING ONE LAPTOP! How the hell? Hint: Google will make a LOT of money from $100 devices.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: The ONLY way Google will be able to monetize this is if ads start appearing in the OS and/or web apps. In that case, it DEFINITELY will fail instantly. WHY? Let's not forget all those ad-filled PCs of the 90s where you got the computer for "free" but were bombarded by ads 24/7. Plus, have you done a parts cost analysis on a $100 device? Get back to me when you have.
- Scott Carmichael
Google OS hasn't won anything except false hype. People aren't going to go out in droves to buy $100 sub-devices when just a bit more money can get you a full-fledged PC.
- Spencer
Besides I predict no such device capable of internet access is going to priced at $100 ever. Prices of hardware are coming down but not that much. In fact I predict that no such device will cost $100 to build -- ever.
- Brian Sullivan
The ChumbyOne is priced at $100 in the Chumby store right now: https://store.chumby.com/ Not the same device, of course, but not that different.
- Ken Kennedy
I'd gladly order one of those if they were available in Canada. I believe Chris Pirillo did a review recently, and it looked quite good.
- Kittyburgers
Brian, you are absolutely right. Even Nintendo & Sony's portable gaming devices are so cheap because they can (and do) subsidize hardware costs with the knowledge more profit will be made from software sales. So unless Google will be charging for web apps, I don't see hardware nowadays being that cheap, EVER, except maybe in 3rd world countries.
- Scott Carmichael
Google OS is all together interesting 2 use together w/other OS, but 2 use as lone nay, I would not
- polou/indigo_bow
The Internet weighs around 450.5 billion kilograms? - http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...
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It's funny, I joined friendfeed just to connect further with my brother...I got that for a time, but in a larger sense I connected with a community and discovered so many interesting people and so many noteworthy stories. Despite what I've written before, to Paul Bucheit and the rest of the friendfeed team, I will forever be grateful for the...
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service that made this possible.
- Alex Scoble
cheers, again.
- Bren -- Making Contact
Cheers to you too, Bren...twice!
- Alex Scoble
I'm tyring to like , like , like many times....lol...Alex...wuvs ya
- Bill Heslin
LOL, you guys are the best.
- Alex Scoble
Amen, Alex. I have come to know more people through FF than I ever could have imagined. It may not be as geeky as it was when I first joined, but the community has grown & improved. Kudos to all of you (devs & users) for giving me that. :)
- JA Castillo
Beautifully said, Alex! :)
- directeur
Well said but ... don't cue the fat lady yet!
- AJ Kohn
AJ, I think you have me confused with another Scoble. :) I'm not calling anything over here. :) Just giving thanks.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, are you on google wave? I have one more...
- Anthony Farrior
oh, scratch that, i have 10 invites left...
- Anthony Farrior
That's nice, Alex.
- Anne Bouey
You are my favorite Scoble by far! (Sorry, Robert) ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Hmmm.. sounds like the speech that is said before the music is queued up and the lovely ladies come from stage right to escort you off. But Then again.. thanks are not said enough in life so say it often. ;)
- CW™
Yes and yes to everything.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
from iPhone
Long live Friendfeed!!! But even better,long live the relationships....
- Steve
werd!
- imabonehead
Love you! even don't know you! love cool people!
- Farhad Jafari
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Well said, Alex.
- Martha
Couldn't agree more .. FF still rocks
- Charlie Anzman
FF is the Jewel in the Center of the Internet
- Robert Higgins
thankyou mr a scoble for putting into words what i've felt too (except for your brother part, ;)
- chaz2b
rackcloud: Cloud Servers for Windows Beta coming in Early 2010. Sign up now! http://bit.ly/3V1iAY - http://twitter.com/rackclo...
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The Next Web is now officially in the top 100 blogs in the world!
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ok Friendfeed is absolutement dead. :)
- Zee.
Congratulations!
- Amit Nangare
Raaaad
- Itachi
Makin History
- Andrea Contino
Cheers Zee :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Congratulations!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Well done, Zee.
- Stephen Mack
Congrats!
- Jinni
congrats Zee!!!
- Roberto
Awesome Zee
- Hunter Clarke
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Excellent Zee.. Congrats!
- Bill Heslin
fabulous!! much success :o)
- Aline Ohannessian
Wow!! Congratulations!! :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Nice!
- Anne Bouey
Congrats Zee (and your team) :)
- Ozkan Altuner
from iPhone
Congrats.
- Dennis O'Neil
Woot it should be
- Robert Higgins
Congrats Zee!
- Garin Kilpatrick
awesome!
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
Congrats!
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Excellent!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Holy! Congrats Zee!
- AJ Batac
Congrats guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
nice
- ffcode
Way to go!
- First Class Fashionista
Congrats Zee!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Well done!
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