Lo

:) - VAL D. Zone

how many more training days do you have with her? - Sarah

I dunno, if she learns fast then today, half days tomorrow & next week. If not, I may have to come in the following week. I'm leaning towards not, maybe I'll actually hit the road earlier than planned. I hate to leave here, but honestly I'm ready to just get this over & done with, you know? - Lo

Mr. Scrooge have you working today too? - Lo

yeah, and he won't give anyone a straight answer about getting our paychecks. the logical choice for him would be to give them out today, since there's no work left this week and no reason for us to work tomorrow. i wouldn't mind working (it'll add a bit to my next paycheck), but what would i work on? i'll be pissed if he expects me to drive all the way here just to get my check tomorrow. - Sarah

Damn he's like Scrooge crossed with a low-level weed dealer. Tell him to get with the 21st century & do direct deposit. Sheesh. - Lo

he used to do direct deposits. and then he didn't have the money in the account a few times, i'm guessing they charged him a fee for that. he canceled it. - Sarah

but for all that, the company doesn't do that badly. we think he has some shady deals and that's why there is never enough money in the payroll account. - Sarah

LOL you're stuck in a worse situation than I am. If you really want to get down into the deeper reasons for that, it's a topic I've spend a lot of time investigating over the last year :D Over the next few months we can get into it, if you want. - Lo

HA shady deals, this keeps getting better and better. - Lo

the deeper reason is probably a lot shallower than you think. i own few but precious things and can't just pick up and be homeless or move back "home" with my parents and keep them. i owe some small debts and enjoy my self made ability to pay my bills and pay off my debts in a timely manner. - Sarah

There's that, but I think there's more to it. Of course, first you have to accept my theory (which is somewhat backed by science) that you don't consciously understand all the factors in your own decision making process. And by "you" I mean "everyone." & I'm over-obsessed with self-understanding, so grain of salt - it's not really for everyone :P - Lo

but with all that, how can you claim to be able to know or learn the deeper reasons? - Sarah

Heh, sorry dude I'm at work you know :P Here's the thing, you can't "know" pretty much anything for sure, but like science you can create a model that works with the available evidence. I dunno, I should warn you in advance that I don't have a comprehensive vocabulary for these concepts yet so it's confusing. And I don't have any special insight into your life, but I do notice some parallels with my situation & I've put a lot of time into understanding it. - Lo

hmmm... well i notice a lot of non parallels as well, but today is not the day for me to get into it. you may have many good points, but it might wreck me today to hear them. i believe i have good points of my own. - Sarah

not so much good points today. today i hate most everyone i've talked to but you. - Sarah

I'm not questioning that your points are good. The way I look at information sharing is I can only speak for my own experience (this makes me come across as even more self-centered as I am, which is a lot, but I don't claim to know how it is for anyone but me!), and parts of it will be useful to others, parts not. Fine with me. I'm not your freaking mentor, it's more that if things I... more... - Lo

*facepalm* - josh neff, geek at large

If I hear the words "'I don't get it" one hundred more times I cannot be held responsible for my actions. The odds look good that this will happen. - Lo

Wow. I think I'd send her to Home Depot for a left-handed crescent wrench. - ha3rvey (Ho)^3

onoes.... - Archangel ωαřмaiden

i feel your pain. honestly. the only people i ever trained that weren't like this were either doing the same job as me or were ex-USMC. however, the one former Air Force guy i trained up was worst of the lot. - Joe Silence is not Santa

I feel your pain, too. Hopefully your trainee isn't also one of those people who thinks she doesn't have to take notes because she "remembers everything". - vicster is...

ok firstly you peeps need a new HR manager !! - Peter Dawson

HR manager?? LOL! You seriously overestimate the company organization and # of employees - Lo

"I think I will need to take notes, I cannot remember all this" <--- MUSIC TO MY EARS. Finally, after two days of us begging her to take notes. - Lo

"I don't understand my computer. I can't click." - Lo

"How to use this program?" Like I have a fucking one sentence answer that will magically explain our entire PO processsing system. *LAND OF 1000 ARGHS* - Lo

Haha - Rodfather

Me passing information to this girl is like trying to fill a test tube with a fire hose. The only problem is, there's a swimming pool worth of stuff that needs to be transferred. Slowing down is so painful - Lo

Unexpected bright side: My boss may finally realize that I've been right in telling him that he's assigned me an unreasonable level of work. If he were more willing to listen, he wouldn't have to learn the hard way. The hard way = everything falls apart when the new girl can't handle the workload. - Lo

So part of the problem is my impatience. :/ Turns out I have to wait 5 - 10 seconds between every mouse click while she figures out the order of the alphabet, etc. I'm sure I'd do much worse working in another language. - Lo

Looking to integrate your iPod or cellular phone in your car? - http://www.soundandalarm.com/car-ste... - cara smith

urgh, spammer comment ahoy. - Joe Silence is not Santa

I wasn't even aware "Christmas is a time when everybody wants their past forgotten". Prosperous Xmas, Lo! :) - Eivind

Merry X'mas to you too :) I bet you even have snow, don't you? I'm almost jealous. - Lo

There's some snow here; not an impressive amount, but enough to have a white Christmas. Don't think there will be any skiing or snowboarding until next year, though. - Eivind

I've never been downhill skiing... if I lose my mind & visit you in the winter we can go and you can mock my clumsiness :) - Lo

Downhill is for snowboarding, but you are welcome to join! (I love to mock!) :) - Eivind

Have you invited your replacement to FF yet? :) - Eivind

Just make it clear that *no one else knows* and that *you're the one* other people ask. - Michael R. Bernstein

She pretty much does nothing unless I tell her what to do minute-by-minute. This is not auspicious. - Lo

Eivind, I think she'd be more comfortable on FB, if you catch my drift :D - Lo

Have you made your concerns clear to your (and presumably New Girl's) supervisor? Not that you're obligated to. - Michael R. Bernstein

You could just pick up one of this http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_sec..., capture every convo you have with her, and leave it for her to sort out later. - Ken Sheppardson

breathe deep - VAL D. Zone

now exhale - VAL D. Zone

Is she fresh out of school? In my first job I wasn't so good about taking notes either. Now in my 2nd position I'm absolutely anal about it - LANjackal

FB? LOL. #oohburn (In a similar situation, I spent an entire day doing a brain dump of my job into a well-formatted document. It was difficult, but ultimately worth it - and management was pretty pleased with my effort.) - Jennifer Dittrich

I've never had to train a replacement before, but I document as much as I can to make it easy for someone to pick up where I left off in case of my absence - LANjackal from IM

Chilly winds here, too. - Nurse Katie

here too! it's in the low 70's right now...but it was in the mid 60's earlier! brrrrr. - Morgan Haley

It's a Festivus miracle! - RAPatton from iPhone

I gotta lotta problems with you people! - MVB (Grinch of FF) from iPod

Let the airing of grievances begin! - Ayşe E.

When do the feats of strength begin? - MVB (Grinch of FF) from iPod

Yeeeeesh. - Jeremy (quasimodo)

That's Bay-Area hiring pool for you. - Jeremy (quasimodo)

I'm having a really hard time not showing irritation when I explain stuff to her. My co-worker has mostly done the training for me, but she's on vacation next week. I only have to be nice enough that she doesn't quit immediately... - Lo

LOL Jeremy. The sad reality is this job is way too complicated for the pay grade, only underachievers like me can handle it. Our annual turnover is something like 150% - Lo

How old is she? When I was 18, I was dumb as a stick too. Maybe she'll grow into the position. :P - Ken Morley

No clue, I'm a terrible judge of age. She's older than 18, though. Mid-20s I'd guess. She probably will do fine in the long term, if she makes it. January will be interesting, though. (it doesn't help that we've had a LOT of problems lately, more than usual even for working with China). Also, I doubt you were ever dumb as a stick Ken! :) - Lo

NEXT............... - VAL D. Zone

Yup, to be honest I've already considered what will happen if & when she quits/is fired after a few weeks. If the company pays I'll fly back for round 2, I guess. - Lo

I did some amazingly stupid things. I still have the scars. :o) - Ken Morley

Forget about trainees, hire cheap-to-free + talented + always learning + smart interns instead! :) #hr - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

o_O - Kenton

Wait, what was the post about, sorry I wasn't paying attention... - Scott

isnt customer/supplier pretty basic? Hrm. - Archangel ωαřмaiden

Sounds like it could be my sister-in-law - Rodfather

I talked w/my co-worker, who filled me on stuff she said when I wasn't around or in Mandarin. We think it's less of a dumb problem and more of a don't-care-enough-to-try problem. Which is still not great. - Lo

Who the hell is in charge of hiring there? - Spidra Webster

this sounds like about half of the people my boss gave me to train up as an assistant back in my publishing days. why i was never involved in the hiring process is beyond me. i ended up with 5 people making messes for me to clean up (when they weren't just sitting on their asses and gold bricking, which i eventually preferred) and generally pissing off the people i was trying to help. - Joe Silence is not Santa

Spidra, the same boss (CEO) responsible for every messed-up work story I tell. The office manager was theoretically involved as well, but she's become a yes-man to the CEO (for her own safety). I used to be involved, esp when it so clearly involves me, but boss apparently doesn't trust me anymore... today he justified my continued employment by saying "I'll go with the devil I know." Not everybody went to management school, I guess... :) - Lo

Joe, that sounds very lame! The bright spot (a big one) here is that I really won't have to deal too closely with the mess, if there is one. The downside is, I can leave as soon as she knows what she's doing... so I may have to keep working after New Year's. I suppose I could use the money. I'm just tired of this holding-pattern-between-lives crap. - Lo

Broken hiring process? LOL - LANjackal

Well, they did hire ME! Clearly broken. :D - Lo

That is no good at all. - Chieze Okoye

Maybe you could back track a bit... some sort of remedial session on things like "What is money? What does money do? Is money good to have? Do we want more money? Where do we get money? How do we get money? Do customers give us money? Do suppliers give us money? Does money grow on trees?" - Mark "DerBingle" J

LOL Mark! But thank you, that's actually sort of good advice. I should probably back it up to the basics. My real plan is next week she just has to do my job, period. She's allowed to ask any questions she wants, but I'm not going to direct her. She's going to sit at my desk and deal with whatever comes. This should force her to accept and admit that she's clueless. - Lo

Although most people don't really know what money is, and it's an important topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

If I didn't know your work horror stories already this feeling of "oman, i could do that! why can't i get hired!!!" would be painful. - Heather

Yeah Heather, I'd be delighted to make you my replacement but I'm not sure I'd wish that on you :) - Lo

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet! - Lo

FF was my main concern, do you like it aside from that? - Lo

I'm new to the whole shiny phones that do stuff world :P - Lo

friends don't let friends buy Motorola. - Alex Scoble

Oh no :( My phone has been non-operational for days now but I can't figure out what to get. This sort of decision always baffles me. - Lo

If you need a phone today, get a Motorola Droid not the Cliq (don't listen to Alex, LOL). If you can wait for a couple of weeks get the Google Nexus One. It's supposed to come out on Jan 5 and be pretty cheap. - Adrian

Droid eris by HTC. Love. - Jeremy (quasimodo) from Android

If you plan to do a lot of typing and don't like on-screen keyboards, I recommend the G1 over the Droid, actually. The Droid went with a space-minimizing design, and my coworkers have called the keyboard "useless" because of the proportion of the keys. The G1 may be an older phone, but it's still serving me well. And the Nexus One is slick as hell, but it has no physical keyboard. - Brad Greer

Sorry if that was too mean, I plead lady hormones! - Lo

for me true its my lifeline to the world......... - VAL D. Zone

I mostly use it for pleasure, but also for information at times. It can be quicker and easier to get an answer in here to some questions than posting in a forum. - Ian May

It is still the best tool for me personally. I use Lazyfeed, Meehive and Thoora etc. etc. I still find lots of useful and interesting content both current and archived on FF. - Eric Logan

I still use FF as a tool. It's a great tool to follow and converse with a wide variety of people and to make friendships. - Beau Liening from iPhone

I came here to escape the narcissism of twitter. BTW FF squashes twitter like a grape. I enjoy the camaraderie. this place rocks. - Mike Nencetti

I use Twitter too. Always found them to be apples and oranges. I like both. - Ian May

Beau, good point, tool was poor word choice on my part. I'm just remembering my early FF days, where people would have one thing auto-posted across 8 services that was all about using more services... it's like a tech Tim Taylor disorder, having lots of tools is good but unless you make stuff what's the point? - Lo

Dang, Lo, if that's what lady hormones do to you, I say bring it on! - Michael R. Bernstein

IOW, True. - Michael R. Bernstein

It is so much better when you don't care where the early-adopter tech types do or say. - Rob Haas

is True - L Stephen Cleary

Very true. - Alex Scoble

Absolutely true - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

True. - Steven Perez

LOL: "leveraging your social whatsits" :) - ha3rvey (Ho)^3

True. But isn't having fun one way to leverage your social whatsits? - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

I think FF is a tool - one that ensures I get like zero work done if I don't turn it off frequently. - Jeremy (quasimodo)

anything will be lame, if you don't ever have a little fun ;) - Mike Chelen

I use it have a converstation. I can't have one of those on Twitter because of the lack of comment threads. It doesn't support a good commenting system like this. FriendFeed is great for that. I use it for many reasons. - Patrick from twhirl

NO PROBLEMS OF ANY SORT. (probably my favorite part) - Lo

NO FRIENDS COMING TO BOTHER, MAKE NOISE, AND/OR DISTURB. - Lo

NO BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND STAYING OVERNIGHT OR MOMENTARILY. (I love the "or momentarily.") - Lo

WE HAVE TO DEFEND THIS PLACE LIKE OUR OWN HOME AND OUR BELONGINGS LIKE THEY ARE THE LAST THING WE HAVE. ONE OF THE NEGATIVE SIDES OF SHARING SPACE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING STOLEN - Lo

REMEMBER, YOU AND I MAY BECOME FRIENDS EVENTUALLY, BUT THIS IS BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT MY SIDE AND I HAVE TO RESPECT YOURS. - Lo

He wraps up by explaining that if you choose to take this amazing opportunity, he's willing to share his vast knowledge that will improve your life & teach you Spanish. And also offers to help you with any problems, which seems a bit odd given that all problems were forbidden in all caps earlier in the post. It's really cheap, but no. - Lo

Oooh, Spanish! All over it! NOT!!! Actually I lived in a situation similar to that where my roommate had the living room and I had the bedroom in a 1 bedroom apartment. Only thing is the place was 1 block away from the beach in Santa Monica, and he was like super mellow hesher metal dude and we got along famously. He was a bit on the dirty side but it was all good. Met Anika in that place too. :D - Adrian

Ooh, I love when a story has an unexpected happy ending! - Lo

I have flagged for "best of craigslist" - Brian Johns

But 5 minutes after you left, one tree breathed a sigh of relief and said "Thank God that creepy stalker girl left. Have you seen the way she looks at us? It makes me feel so... dirty." - Brad Greer

HA! I do try to only hit on the trees that seem interested. It's a bit hard to tell. - Lo

Look for wood... (oh no, sorry) - Eivind

I love that you actually took time to roll around in leaves today. - cecily

Gotta enjoy them while I can! The fall leaves here are remarkable, considering we don't really have seasons. (and it happens in December!) - Lo

Well, got any openings at your job? :P - Lo

I really don't know what it is, I'm blaming pheromones. Rationally I'm not interested, but some wild-animal part of me is ready to do terrible, inappropriate things to him. - Lo

Trust me, he's not as innocent as you might think... - Mark "DerBingle" J

Oh, Lo, you sweetheart! ;) - josh neff, geek at large

True, I'm just assuming because every geek I've dated that age was completely inexperienced. - Lo

@ Lo I'm reminded of this line> Do you have any openings I can fill? - Russellreno

Ouch. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

breathe deep - VAL D. Zone

now let it out.......... - VAL D. Zone

Okay, breathing and so far have not exploded. Three more hours! - Lo

There should be a venting room on FF (if it isn't already). I know there is something called Bitchfest, but I'm not sure that covers it all. - Eivind

Oh, I thought this was a venting room :) - Lo

I can see where you got that impression :-P - Eivind

There's a "hide" button on all my posts for a reason. Sweet atheist nothing, I am considering meds to alter my hormones, b/c this is ridiculous. - Lo

My boss reply: "How big was it?" followed by a graphic description of exactly how you would die in such a scenario. - Lo

Thanks, I mean, it's been a long time and all, but I was truly stunned that he thought that was an appropriate action. - Lo

Wow. A real winner, there. - Jeremy (quasimodo)

Right after it happened, all the girls in my PE class were making lots of jokes about the grandma that got eaten, and dissecting it for body parts, etc. Which was really upsetting to hear, but they had no idea I knew her. AND THEY WERE 13. My boss is 75. No excuse for this shit. - Lo

Did he think you were being sarcastic or displaying a morbid sense of humor? - joey

No (well I doubt it), he really is that ridiculous. Just wait till I've quit for good, oh the stories I have... I don't think he's capable of considering another person's point of view in conversation. Which is why I try to not let him talk directly to our customers. - Lo

I would think you're messing with me. Conversation could escalate quickly, with me accusing you of telling false stories and you saying that I'm a horrible person. In the end, either it's a joke or somebody punches someone in the face. - Jordi Soler

I'm afraid I would laugh before I realized you were serious. That's awful. - s t e v e

I'd say "Wow, sorry. I had no idea. CHECK PLEASE!" - Morgan Haley

I suppose we really need video to fully analyze what went on. And I wouldn't be offended if you laughed. In fact I wouldn't be offended if you did pretty much anything other than invite me to think about the specific details. She was such a nice lady, had a long bout with leukemia, and then that happened when she went for a walk behind her house one morning - so all the fun of a long, slow decline and a terrifying, violent death. No wonder I quit going to church. - Lo

But in another month there will be thousands of delightful miles between me & boss, so I'm going to get over it and smile in 3...2...1... - Lo

Ding! :D Thanks for letting me share, guys. <3 all around - Lo

That is really bad. My group of friends can be really sarcastic and attempt to disarm people by making comments like that, but if you don't really do that and he has no reason to think that you were making a morbid joke, then it's really inappropriate. Sounds like a winner. I'm really sorry you had to go through that. <3 - joey

It's so nice to have solid months of awkward ass-kissing pay off like this. Didn't see it coming! - Lo

Thank you! Now I feel foolish for how much I've worried. - Lo

Excellent!!! - Jeremy (quasimodo)

YAYYY for Lo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - VAL D. Zone

That sounds great. Congrats! - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Thanks! It really is great, I figure even if it goes to hell (as it often does with external employees), I'll get a few months pay out of this, straight to savings, no boyfriend to support. Hello emergency fund, I missed you! - Lo

Work it girl! - Adrian

Oh yeah, and guess what you guys: someone finally danced back to my Great Wall video, so now I have to dance on my boss' desk before I leave. I got served! - Lo

Wonderful, Lo!!! =D - Anna Haro

Much yayness! - Heather

I <3 "much yayness," and will start using it immediately. - Lo

w00t! Congrats!! :) - Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ

Wow, congratulations. Even part time, you're probably better off financially living in FL than you were working full-time and living in CA. Cost of living is a killer. - Jason Huebel

Congrats I had a similar situation with my employer. - Bryan Lee

very nice! - Loc

Tallahassee is a great town. Congratulations. - Eric Logan

Eric, that's great to hear! - Lo

I'm not American, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Florida where Americans go to die? - Eivind

Tallahassee is the Capital, lots of state government related economic impact. F.S.U. and F.A.M.U add lots of students and collegiate activities. Both my kids where born there. Florida is where Americans that planned well financially, go to retire. Eivind, Some communities are like Disney World for senior citizens ;) - Eric Logan

That's really cool Lo! - SAM

Yay! - cecily

Lo, let me know how it goes. I'm always collecting good telecommuting success stories. My prayers go with you. - Melanie Reed

@Eivind - Yes, but rarely some people grow up there. We're... well, we're all nuts I guess. @Melanie - Thanks, I'm sure I'll be whining about the new projects in no time. But at least I'll have no worries about a roof over my head & food in my belly, and that's saying something these days! - Lo

Did I get this right, Lo: Some people grow up in Florida, but they're all nuts? - Eivind

I'm glad you're happy. A change of pace/place can be so energizing. Here's to the panic storms growing increasingly intermittent. :) - Ayşe E.

Thanks <3 I figure part of what I really want/need to learn is how to weather the panic storms & still function, so having them is not really even a bad thing. Annoying, perhaps, but not bad :) - Lo

(((((((((((((((((((((lLo)))))))))))) I am so happy for you........ - VAL D. Zone

FLORIDA STATE!? Really? *gunshots* >:( - LANjackal

Uh oh, why do you say that LANjackal? I truly have no idea what I'm getting into this time. - Lo

LAN don't scare her........ - VAL D. Zone

She said she's moving "back" to FL, which means she has to be already familiar with the college football insanity that pervades that state (and most of the South). It is NOT the Bay Area ;) - LANjackal from IM

Well, I haven't actually ever lived up there. I grew up Orlando & further south. But I know I'm moving to hick country. - Lo

Any college town will have just enough interest/alternative POVs to keep you going. Have fun! And if Tallahassee doesn't, come on up to Chapel Hill/Durham. - Ayşe E.

Luck! I hope things go well. - R1CC1

While the native population may qualify as "hick", the huge student population won't. Most of the people will be from South FL, which should make the scene interesting - LANjackal from IM

I'm so glad that things are working out for you! - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)

Yes, I was counting on "college town" to trump "almost in Alabama." Thanks Junebug! - Lo

You couldn't possibly despise Alabama more than I do. That said, I hope it's not too much of a culture shock for you. Calling deep southern culture the polar opposite of NorCal culture would be an understatement - LANjackal from IM

Well, I am semi-familiar even from being further south. When I was little we had a cross burned in our yard, does that count? I'm a little worried that, from what I've heard, the town is rather segregated. What do you think my odds are of being able to befriend folks from other sides of town? I did okay in Eatonville, but it was rough. Lots of folks assuming I was a cop, Nation of Islam dudes calling me white devil, etc :P - Lo

I'm not totally familiar with the area, but I do know there's a kind of FSU vs. FAMU thing there. I'll let you read btwn the lines on that one. As for segregation, it's voluntary ... no one's gonna stop you from going where you want to, but really diverse crowds in one spot may be tough to find. Which is odd, because everyone likes the same music and eats the same food, etc. But that's... more... - LANjackal from IM

Amen! I've tried too hard for a while now to integrate my various friends, which is tricky because in particular my east cost friends hate the west coast group, and vice versa. I could be down with deliberately segmented social life again for a while, it's entertaining at least. But to be clear, this is absolutely meant to be temporary, a few years at most. I could NEVER live in the south again permanently. I will probably end up back in Cali or some other country in the long term... hello, Sweden! :) - Lo

I don't even try. Which is why I have multiple circles of friends. Nothing more embarrassing than having inviting some people from Group B to come to Group A's party, only to have the B people tell you they're uncomfortable and leave. Kicker: people from Group A telling me they were surprised I even showed up. Are you kidding it's your graduation party and you did well why would I NOT show up? Sad world we live in - LANjackal

I just hate when friends A tell me they don't trust friends B and are just looking out for my interest (and mean it), but B is saying the same thing about A. That happened when I left school... this is giving me flashbacks. Why can't we all just get along?! :) - Lo

now my mouth is watering.......... - VAL D. Zone

Donuts are pretty cheap here, all under a dollar. Not sure where the $1.50 ones are you're talking about. - anna sauce

here = SF - anna sauce

Yeah, I've never seen a donut for $1.50 either (Los Angeles). I think the most I've seen is $1.25 for a bear claw. Otherwise, they're all 25 - 79 cents. - Admiral Anika

True, you can get cheaper donuts in CA, I didn't mean to imply otherwise :) Where I work is in one of those little rich/snobby pseudo-small-town bubbles, the only donut shop is this place: http://www.psycho-donuts.com It's so worth it though! - Lo

But back to YOUR donut...are those biscuit things stuck on top when you buy it or do they sell them separately? - Admiral Anika

Yes, some of the donuts have entire candy bars crumbled on top. The place is pretty bizarre. It gets protested almost every weekend, which seems unusual for a donut shop. - Lo

They get protested because their name is supposedly offensive, not because their donuts are over-the-top delicious. In response they played up the theme even more, now they only employ attractive, hipster-type young ladies in punk nurses' uniforms. And hand out bubble wrap to pop while you decide. - Lo

If anyone wants to experience visual insulin shock, you can see pictures of all their donuts here: http://www.psycho-donuts.com/pickupo... Sadly, the hamburger donuts was a disappointment. - Lo