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Louis Gray
Silicon Valley early adopter, tech geek blogger, and dad w/twins
Run $TwitterCleaner$ IF Follower Count > 2000 && Feed Includes 'API' OR 'TwitterFeed' && Twitter List Count < 5 THEN Unfollow
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Or something like that. If only.
- Louis Gray
I'd love to understand this . . . but . . . hmmm, I don't have more than 2000 followers so no need, right?
- Shari Weiss
I've been wanting to write this forever. Hopefully soon. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Haha, I get so few followers I do this manually on every follower I get.
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Done.
- Jesse Stay
What's wrong with not being on lists?
- Bryce, Low in Sodium
Bryce, most regular users are on a good number of lists. Not being on lists is a "tell" for a spam or bot account. You're on 6, so you pass this test
- Louis Gray
Oh, so I am.
- Bryce, Low in Sodium
Cadmus Filters Real Time Streams to Reduce Clutter - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
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Author of Cadmus is on Friendfeed here: http://friendfeed.com/fanjiew...
- Louis Gray
Vue: A Home Video Network That’s Too Simple - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r...
My 23 year-old sister signs up for Twitter, cancels. "Saw no point in the account."
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From this evening. Another thrilling Friday night.
- Louis Gray
Whenever I am on Twitter my gf never fails to remind me how stupid and pointless she thinks it is
- Holden Page
So someone in *your* family doesn't grok Twitter either. My brother says he'll never even set up a Twitter account at all; he sees no point either. Apparently these people see the words "What are you doing?" above the text box and think it's nothing but the Facebook status update without Facebook. Some people just don't get it at all...
- Dennis Jernberg
In *my* family (asterisks per Dennis), most of them use Facebook. Nobody else uses Twitter at all.
- Louis Gray
in my family everyone uses Facebook as well, my mom has a twitter account, she never touches it, she thinks it is dumb.
- Holden Page
Sure enough, Facebook is exactly what everybody in my family but me uses, too! Well, I'm on Facebook too, but I don't use it like they do. For one thing, I don't play any of the games; I hide them instead. And none of them has even heard of FriendFeed...
- Dennis Jernberg
hahaha that is epic!! Twittter got dissed by Ms Gray :D
- Susan Beebe
My family is the same. Twitter is pointless to them. There's so much more than just status updates to them.
- Jesse Stay
Well, I don't get Twitter either. Anyone want to explain it to me?
- Cristo
It's not fun when you sign up and have no friends / people to interact with...and all the interesting people only talk to each other. All my friends didn't "see a point" until they built their own network(s). Just sayin'
- Mona Nomura
My wife is also that way, btw - I may *just* be able to get her to join FourSquare though.
- Jesse Stay
Social media circle jerk.
- Cristo
Jesse, it took a lot of work, but i got my gf to join FriendFeed haha
- Holden Page
As if Twitter is some brilliant thing that only a certain so-called tech crowd gets.
- Cristo
My sister has known that I've used Twitter for several years now. Whenever I brought it up, that was her reaction, "Don't get it. Don't see the point." She created an account a month or so ago and she's totally into it now. When I asked her what made the difference, she shrugged and said she wasn't sure. "Your friends started using it, didn't they?" I asked her. "Yes." heh. :D
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Why don't you guys go have this conversation on Twitter? :)
- Cristo
Pfff. Cristo, you know full well twitter can't deal with the c word. :)
- Micah Wittman
I will make the bold prediction that most of my brothers and sisters will never join or use Twitter. I have one brother that does, occasionally, but the rest will never, ever use it. There's no point when they can get the same thing from Facebook and more.
- Jesse Stay
Mona - nailed it! :)
- Susan Beebe
Re Mona: I myself didn't even bother to sign up for Twitter till this last June, when I discovered an existing online songwriting community I belong to had a Twitter presence. That's when I set up my account and started to use Twitter. Then I found that some of the NaNoWriMo offshoots I take part in also had a Twitter presence. That was the beginning. Since then I've built up a much...
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- Dennis Jernberg
my girlfriend has no interest in it either. she uses facebook for all her net communication needs and is quite happy...
- Terry O'Fee
I got all my friends to sign up for Twitter, all found it pointless. So, I really don't get the point either. I'll delete mine too. :D
- Faraz Mullick
This is why I am on most social networks.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Only a few of my real-life friends are even on Facebook, and the ones that are rarely update. The social web can be pretty disappointing sometimes.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
Most everyone I know is on Facebook now, with a few exceptions that refuse to use much of anything on the internet except for youtube and blogs. Nobody gets the point of twitter, especially with facebook/friendfeed offering the same type of communication options, if not more. However, the nice thing about twitter/friendfeed is that it's searchable. The other day I was watching the events from Fort Hood unfold on twitter. I couldn't do that easily on facebook. That's where twitter shines.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
My Second Life avatar started on Twitter in the good old days, when everyone you followed followed you back. But my real life account has about 20 followers, so it only really works as a reader - and that rocks.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
second life.. i read books like snow crash, get excited and find SL nothing like it ;)
- Terry O'Fee
If new users have no followers and fail to get the reader part, of course they stop. And the statistics confirm that.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
I do agree. It is really difficult to convince someone to use twitter. And even if I do, they don't stay active on the service. They too state "I don't see any point in the service". Often are the times when they are convincing me it is nothing but a blog platform with 140 characters limit.
- Amit
I've learned that it's not a good idea to try to convince friends to join Twitter. Unless they get it, they will simply annoy you with Facebook style Tweets. Better to seek out Twitter users who have learned the knack of posting interesting Tweets.
- Jimmy Walker
If she doesn't get it, or anyone else for that matter, be glad they're on their way. Twitter never worked for me either and I'm happily not participating as well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I just realized I've been forgetting to tell them to start by following interesting people and not even think about posting their own tweets for the first little while (Robert's advice) - I wonder if that would make more of a difference.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
My 25 year old brother said the same thing.
- Rochelle
My family is a Facebook family as well.
- Trish R
She's ahead of the curve. Take note.
- EBrewer
I see Twitter as another information portal, and a social channel (albeit limited). For those things it's great. I don't use facebook all that much, but it's good to chat with old friends to say howdy and share current happenings. I'm me no matter what social hub I'm on, but the local laws/rules/community etiquette fits my preferences better in some virtual hangouts.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
My daughter of about the same age also got and shortly thereafter canceled a twitter account.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Twitter is useful as a minimalist news broadcasting system. Twitter is worse than useless as a medium for conversation. I mostly use Twitter in combination with Topsy searches to pluck off the most interesting news stories of the day on selected topics. Without Topsy, I would stop using Twitter entirely because of the information overload.
- Sean McBride
Mona's point is pretty much spot on. I kind of "imported" a Revision 3 forum network into Twitter, which led to FriendFeed, which had sort of a recursive bend back into Twitter, which led to finding Twitter recommendations, which then opened me up to following people from IRL, and then...ah crap. I've stopped using Twitter as much, though, because Facebook is where the people I CARE about really are. And in case you're wondering, I'm friends with Mona on Facebook ;)
- Mike Nayyar
I've hit a wall trying to get my friends to sign up for Twitter. It's like they've got an image issue. Whenever I try to explain it's value for news and as RSS replacement, people sort of stop listening. They're left thinking it's Facebook without the "fun stuff," which is lesser and redundant for them.
- Jeremiah Green
Is it fair to say that the tweets related to tech news that some folks think are so wonderful and important are primarily links to web sites, blogs, new articles, and so on produced by someone other than the tweeter? So far as I've seen, subscribing to, say, all the employees of a company doesn't produce much news about the company; instead you see posts about where the employees ate lunch and stuff like that. Of course I may just not be looking at the right people.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Unless you have a defined business strategy, there really is not much point to Twitter, unless you just want to connect for fun, which is under my business strategy :)
- Steve Borgman
Actually I don't see the point either, but I'm still here :)
- scott willeke
I keep a Twitter account just for a case of emergency, because it gets translated everywhere, and their mobile client is the lightest.
- 9000
Young people don't get Twitter so much.
- Hutch Carpenter
I am old Hutch and I don't get it
- VAL D.
I have all three FB, FF and Twitter - FB is for people I know personally save very few exceptions, FF & Twiiter overlap and are people I tend to follow but I dont know from adam - I prefer FF tho . I now have GW as of last night but am still struggling to get the hang of it- will lose my twitter acct I think
- viki saigal
SuezanneC has summed twitter up quite well. None of my family use twitter, took me ages to 'get it' but although my family all use Facebook, I don't like it. I stay to keep in touch with them.
- Sandra Large
Analyzing Twitter Lists-Follower Ratio As An Indicator of Influence | Skeptic Geek - http://www.skepticgeek.com/microbl...
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So, no correlation. And I was so happy about being listed. Oh well...
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
As I told Mahrendra, I could make my numbers look a lot better by reducing my feed by thousands of followers, and thereby increasing my ratio.
- Louis Gray
My "respect ratio" is 29. Do I get a prize?
- Sarah is Novembery
My Twitter List weigh-in: http://sharisax.com/2009...
- Shari Weiss
And as I replied to Louis, anyone can game Twitter, and he doesn't need to anyway. :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Nice post Mahrendra. I have noticed people with >50k followers on 6/8 lists and those with 500 followers on 20 lists. When I've checked them out, all those accounts with the massive follower counts were basically using Twitter as a broadcast medium. Thanks for the post.
- Jim Connolly
New Blog Post: Cadmus Filters Real Time Streams to Reduce Clutter http://bit.ly/3AUXDV @thecadmus
TweetMeme to Soon Offer Individual Channels for Top Links - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
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Check out the early site here: http://tweets.louisgray.com/
- Louis Gray
New Blog Post: TweetMeme to Soon Unveil Individual User Channels for Top Links http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
“Horrible Things” Slink Back Into Zynga - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
"If they specifically blocked the ads when you are using your account, that’s ridiculous and deceitful. I would have to assume they gave you enough credit to do exactly what you did, and that they didn’t expect you to check in was nuts."
- Louis Gray
Cal's Jahvid Best, on a rushing TD, was propelled into the air by a defender and landed on his upper back/neck. Motionless in the end zone.
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Yeah, what an awful hit. That looked terrible. :(
- Rochelle
I knew it was bad immediately when he hit the ground. His arms were stiff and he was unresponsive. Still nothing.
- Louis Gray
i hope it's not as bad as it looked... and it looked very bad, he was so high up in the air and then his legs snapped back when he landed... they have to take every precaution... he's not moving on the gurney... oh dear...
- .LAG liked that
Yes, LAG. Not any movement that I could see. Only saving grace is that the FD and PD weren't speeding off the field.
- Louis Gray
ABC Halftime show (USC/ASU game) reports that Best has a severe concussion, but movement in all extremities... will be kept in hospital for continued observation...
- .LAG liked that
Cal RB Jahvid Best update: Concussion with movement in all extremities. He is at the Emergency Room. #JahvidBest
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Wikipedia is so fast. "Best was injured during the second quarter of a game against Oregon State on November 7, 2009. He flipped in mid-air while attempting to hurdle a defender into the end zone and landed on the back of his neck and right shoulder. After a 15-minute delay, Best was taken off the field.[17][18]There is much reason for concern, as Jahvid suffered a mild concussion only a week ago during the Arizona State game. [19]. He is reported to have a concussion and movement in all extremities at this time and he has been taken into the emergency room for further evaluation." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Louis Gray
WOW.
- Rochelle
Video of the Jahvid Best injury is already live (though poor quality) http://www.awesomeinternetnews.com/bestofy... #JahvidBest
YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Louis Gray
Oh God. His parents must be going crazy right about now.
- Derek Coward
That's what I was thinking, Derek. How sad.
- Yolanda
It's one of the worst landings I have ever seen. Combine that with his importance to the team, and it's off the charts ugly.
- Louis Gray
Should put "Disturbing" in the first post or in the subject, cause it's very that.
- Matthew DeVries
It is. The way his arms are out like that? It too has a Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Louis Gray
I saw the Joe Theisman injury on Live TV when I was 6. This was worse, by far.
- Matthew DeVries
We saw it live on the flatscreen and replays too! It doesn't look like we'll see him play again in a Cal uniform, barring a miracle. Waiting for updates.
- Louis Gray
From the look of that, I hope he lives.
- Matthew DeVries
Cal RB Jahvid Best is on oxygen and covered in a sheet on the stationary cart, and is now leaving the field. #JahvidBest
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Jahvid Best was hit at the goal line, propelled upward, and landed headfirst. Helmet came off. FD Just moved him from a stiff board to cart.
Cal's RB Jahvid Best is going to be taken via cart off the field. No sign of movement at all. Cal and all of Berkeley is stunned.
Brunch in Sunnyvale with Yahoo's Glen Campbell and Google's Erica Joy Baker. Yum.
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Is that a sculpture? EDIT: I think I'm looking at chicken wings.
- Anika
The waffles were the best part. Promise.
- Louis Gray
So how was it, what did you guys talk about?
- Stephen Mack
Mostly, we just talked about TiVo, and Glenn showed off the new Yahoo! phone to compete with Android and iPhone.
- Louis Gray
Why can't it be just Erica Joy and Glen Campbell - we've all been on FriendFeed for over a year...
- Mona Nomura
Mona, it's because this was sent by e-mail and automatically goes to Twitter. I will change for you, ma'am.
- Louis Gray
Are those grits in the middle of the plate? Are you sure you didn't bop over to Tennessee for breakfast? Bacon, sausage, eggs, fried chicken...
- DGentry
Louis, sounds fun. Next one, bring the twins and I'll bring my kids, and let's have a play date! It'll be utter chaos for whatever restaurant we choose... :)
- Stephen Mack
No silly - like just Glen and Erica Joy. Why does it have to be Yahoo!'s Glen and Google's Erica? I like FriendFeed because unlike Twitter, we're all just people, not so and so from x and x.
- Mona Nomura
Amusingly enough this friendfeed post is already in the top 10 Google results for "yahoo phone"
- DGentry
I see Louis is a trending topic on Twitter. This is not a good thing. http://twitter.com/#search...
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LOL
- Thomas Power
it's because of your crazy Friday nights, I'll bet.
- Jim Hearts FF
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If all @Google's major innovations came from 20% time, why not give everybody 5 different 20% projects and wait for the magic to happen?
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That's crazy talk Mr Gray. You have broken the logic quota for today
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
/hangs up logic hat on rack and retires.
- Louis Gray
If all the tasty stuff of a cake comes from the sugar, why not use all sugar and no flour, eggs, or milk? ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit the chemist, ladies and gentlemen.
- Josh Haley
Because then no one would be on FriendFeed :-P
- Jesse Stay
because part of great ideas come from having them, a larger part comes from carrying them out.
- Vincent van Wylick
And because public business are in it to make money predictably, not from sporadic ideas that could potentially turn the whole business-model around.
- Vincent van Wylick
Because the inspiration often comes from the perspiration of the 80% work. Most people are not able to be inspired 100% of the time, though there are a few at Google who are.
- Bill Strathearn
Now how many people thought I was 100% serious on this question instead of just 20%? I'm getting a lot of 100% answers.
- Louis Gray
Do all Google's major innovations come from 20% time? I guess we'd have to start by agreeing on what those major innovations were.
- Cristo
FriendFeed?
- Jesse Stay
Twitter?
- Jesse Stay
Is "innovation" the emergence of new competitors from that time? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Maybe Google should give all of their employees 100 1% projects. Then they'd really have a bunch of new ideas. One exception, though; one person gets stuck modifying Gmail to let you see your mail in an unthreaded date plus time received order.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Neither Twitter nor FriendFeed came out of Google 20% time, as far as I know.
- Cristo
The all sugar cake is not only sweet and tasty; a big tablespoonful of it swallowed quickly, at the right time, often cures hiccups.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
LOL
- Thomas Power
I'd bet there are plenty of people at Google who do work this way.
- Kevin Gamble
I share this sentiment. There are services that need to be maintained but if you look at the new goodies being developed, it's all about freedom and creativity. Ok that's it I had to add you Louis to my tiny input stream on Twitter. Listing and group following you here wasn't enough. This tweet sealed the deal!
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I think I need a second iPhone - just so I can play games when I am on hold.
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Just use your earpiece and you can do it on your existing iphone :-)
- Jesse Stay
You know other, real, smartphones will let you do both...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
MVB, so will the iPhone, but not sure Louis realizes that :-)
- Jesse Stay
I do that all the time, on one iPhone. Jailbreak and get Kirikae. It's a background app switcher. Basically you double tap the home button, select the Phone App, make your call, then in the middle of the call, double tap again and switch back. Both run just fine. Sound is an issue, obviously, so I usually turn off the sounds of the game I'm playing.
- Otto
Hush, Jesse. I could put the call on background, but don't wanna'. And I'm not jailbreaking.
- Louis Gray
Otto, I don't think jailbreak is necessary to do what Louis wants to do. Phone calls can go on in the background on the iPhone natively.
- Jesse Stay
Couldn't you just get an iPod Touch for that?
- ronin
I have one that a PR company sent over to test one of their new apps. Should I just keep it? What would the FTC say?
- Louis Gray
Why not get a Droid for calls, and use the iPhone for what it really is - a gaming platform? :)
- jcunwired
Droid for calls and iTouch for everything else. :)
- Amani
nice! get triplet iPhone, droid and blackberry
- testbeta
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