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Louis Gray
So @google, while you're injecting Chrome goodness into IE, can you take a pass at infiltrating Safari so I can install Google Toolbar?
Me needs it too. - Igor Poltavskiy
You want to use sidewiki, don't you? - Jesse Stay
I was annoyed about this today. - Veronica
Jesse, it's not a matter of "want". It's a matter of finding if all browsers can support the same functionality. - Louis Gray
Safari really isn't built to be extensible. The only real hooks happen though framework injection and other less-stable methods. IE is built on top of COM, making it somewhat modular. There are hooks up and down the browser stack. I've looked into what it would take to bring our stuff into Safari and it's not easy. You can do a "virtual sidebar" in HTML, but that's about it. It's a pretty complex area, but anyone interested in details can always ping me. - Matt M (inactive)
FWIW, this is the only way I know of to get full browser integration in Safari: http://www.culater.net/softwar... - Matt M (inactive)
There are a few different ways, but the concept is basically the same: http://tsybulin.livejournal.com/46264... SIMBL (and most Snow Leopard-enabled Safari plugins) use the Scripting Additions/helper app method. It should be noted that even Apple uses a similar helper app method to load the Flash plugin. - Mark Trapp
Mark, thanks for that reference. It adds a few extra techniques I haven't seen before (although they are all variations along the lines of "inject code into Safari" :)). - Matt M (inactive)
That's correct: there is no officially supported way to modify Safari itself (Apple/WebKit only sanctions modifying the document via content-type plugins) so you're left with code injection. But hey, toh-may-toh, toh-mah-toh. You say code injection, I say extending. :-P Some developers, like Agile Web Solutions, do it pretty well to the point where I'd challenge a regular user to find something off about the process. - Mark Trapp
Functionality that requires a toolbar is doomed to a niche audience anyway. - Tinfoil 2.0
Yep... - Rah-PM 2012
LogEx - It's true. On top of that, you can only have so many toolbars before you no longer have a viewport in which to actually look at Web sites. - Curdy G
No-one needs Google toolbar anyway. Only people soft headed enough to fall for every geegaw thrown at them as "Useful". It has no real use beyond feeding info back to Google. Everything else can be accomplished without it. - Gilbert Harding
I find the Google Toolbar to be incredibly useful, to the point where features that it has are actually keeping me from switching to Google Chrome. Google Bookmarks is the biggest one, but Sidewiki is pretty useful too. The AutoLink and AutoFill tools come in quite handy as well. Also, I detest the single box for both URL and Google Search in Chrome, and find the browser unusable because of that, but that's a different thing altogether. - Otto
Really Otto? Oddly enough, the fact that combining the address bar and search bar isn't standard in other browsers is the main reason I cannot stop using Chrome. I just end up typing my search terms into the address bar on those browsers too, with mixed results. - Dan Crum
+1 Dan. I do the same thing. - Curdy G
me too - vadimka
Dan: Yes, the integrated bar makes it difficult for me to explicitly tell the browser when I want to search vs. when I'm entering a URL. I frequently search for domain names to find info about them. Chrome interprets this as me wanting to go to the domain, which is not my goal. I cannot use Chrome as long as it has this misfeature. - Otto
+1 Otto. I like smart apps. But Chrome is a smart ass :-) - Pandu ● IT Optimizer from fftogo