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Wondering if we really need to see these tweets in real time on Google search results.... the quality of these tweets seems to be very low. Maybe Google should be filtering tweets.. Not sure how this is useful at all to someone searching Google for "Tiger Woods"
mohammadk, TH Schee, Vipul Rawat and 19 other people liked this
I was dreading this, knowing it was coming sooner or later, it degrades your search precision
- sofarsoShawn
I think this will only increase twitter spam :(( Google is usually very very religious about their search result quality... not sure how this got through...
- Bindu Reddy
Exactly, the more you tweet, the better your chances are for a site hit
- sofarsoShawn
interesting. didn't even realize there's these kinds of google search results now. thanks for the heads up!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Yup, I am writing a bot that scrapes Google trends, extracts search terms and writes tweets every 2 minutes with those search terms :)
- Bindu Reddy
New SEO pioneering! I want in! & it's also not just Twitter, but also Jaiku, identi.ca Myspace, FriendFeed & Facebook. & Bing (except for FB & TW) won't be including them in their search results.
- sofarsoShawn
I the quality of all tweets seems to be very low.
- Gabe
Oh bleh. Just tried a search for "snow". The realtime results are very distracting. Let us opt out, or put it on the side somewhere.
- Laura Norvig
from iPod
It's good to bring more users to twitter though, as they keep getting twitter rubbed into their face. That being said I should try that search.
- Richard A.
Interesting. So you can try spam these services, and get a high position on Google immediately. But filtering... based on what? The usual filters work on authority which in turn often works on ratings, citations, backlinks etc., and these won't be real-time because people first have to see and digest the message in question in order to link, cite and rate it.
- Philipp Lenssen
It auto-updates and that is an interesting feature. That's something I could see some use for :-)
- Richard A.
On the spam and SEO topic. Don't you think it'd measure retweet strength. If a lot of people retweet a subject then the link would be more relevant/interesting than if just one person retweets. Sorry for going slightly off topic. As an aside do retweets move back up to the top of the search? Should try cop15 and see how it behaves.
- Richard A.
@Philipp: smart question (as usual). I guess that Google's rank/filter could be based not on the tweet, but on the tweeter: e.g. someone who has many followers is a good source, etc. E.g. Google too should (in this case) change its paradigm, switching from a "web of pages" to a "web of people".
- milivella
Google needs real time spam/foul language filter.
- ashish
from iPhone
Have they implemented safesearch for real time search?
- ashish
from iPhone
@Philipp You have nailed the issue :) It is really really difficult to get a good grip on "quality" if the information/data is real-time. I still can't really figure out what the motivation behind doing something like this on the Google main search results is.
- Bindu Reddy
Sometimes it is nice to see people giving their reactions to news or event in real time but I hope it improves overtime.
- ashish
from iPhone
Am I the only one here who is using Topsy http://www.topsy.com on a daily basis to cut through Twitter noise? Works like a charm. News recommender systems are the Next Big Thing.
- Sean McBride
Sean, I'm on twitter for the conversations :-). I looked at topsy and I'll have to play with it, see how I could have fun with it.
- Richard A.
Check out Speed Tracer (it's not just for GWT applications!) - http://blog.bolinfest.com/2009...
Victor Panlilio, Louis Gray, James R and 3 other people liked this
Yes indeed. Please continue to spread the good word :)
- James R
This is difficult to explain without sounding creepy but... There is nothing as beautiful than a woman who has just showered, in her pajamas, still damp hair and no make up... It's just hard to... well... find or ask people other than Rachael to let me photograph them like this... I know, weird, but you know...
anjelina, Live4Emma (L4S), Darren Heydon and 23 other people liked this
Keep this up and I might get almost jealous!
- Mo Kargas
Dude, I feel you on that one Johnny
- Chieze Okoye
I know exactly what you are trying to say! I can't get my lady to allow me to take such pics of her just yet...let alone share them.
- Justin Korn
I mean... How do you even start the conversation???!?!? :P
- Johnny Worthington
yeah, you don't, you just start shooting :)
- Justin Korn
I think my sister wife application got lost in the mail
- aden
1UP aden
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think I remember this being a nice thing. Sadly, I've been dating women that shower infrequently....*sigh*
- Morgan Haley
You can photograph me like that. However, there is no way in the world I can match Rachael's beauty.
- Mellissa Claus
I've never felt more loved!
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nina, Nima نیما, ovigia and 103 other people liked this
<3 Awwwww!!
- aden
<333 You're gonna make me cry, D!!
- Derrick
omg thats beautiful.....................
- VAL D.
Awwwwwwwww
- Sparky
Oh how cute!
- Bonnie Foster
def cuteness overload...
- Robyn Hawk
that's the cutest picture! look at the pup! Close up! :)
- Anna Lynn M.
I cannot stop looking at this picture.........
- VAL D.
too cute for words.
- Call me Bronco
mega cute !!
- Peter Dawson
So beautiful :-))
- Anna Haro
Love it. :)
- Louis Gray
totally AWWWWW
- Morgan Haley
WOW! The best.
- Martha
:D
- Josh Haley
somebody's jealous? and incredibly cute...
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
♥♥♥♥♥
- matmazelange
LOVE!!!!!
- Laura Lou Who
please adopt me too :)
- Irrisolta Confusa
from BuddyFeed
It's all fun and games until you need to move your arm.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
1UP Suzanne
- Josh Haley
bumpage
- Trish Haley
More proof that Audrey is definitely my kid: she's jamming the hell out to Joy Division right now.
Kirsten Mitchell, Kostantinos Koukopoulos, Mona Nomura and 15 other people liked this
VIDEO NEEDED.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Did not happen unless there's video proof!
- Lis Miller
Too late! It was an instantaneous event.
- Akiva Moskovitz
you and your kid have good taste in music!
- Morgan Haley
holy crap how have you not video'd this?!
- Matthew DeVries
Psyched that @scottmac is joining Facebook to focus on PHP and thus doubling our open source and standards team! http://www.macvicar.net/blog...
Atul Arora, Louis Gray, Private Sanjeev and Benjamin Golub liked this
Official Gmail Blog: Offline Gmail graduates from Labs - http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Louis Gray, Lawrence Oluyede, Paul Buchheit and 3 other people liked this
Congrats everyone! Nice to see this finally emerging from Labs!!
- Jenna Bilotta
So is this using HTML5 or Gears, or both?
- Kevin Fox
Gears for now.
- Daniel Dulitz
Hence nothing on Chrome for Mac yet... and for some time :(
- Jérôme Flipo
This is odd timing. I thought that Google had just announced the deprecation of Gears. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Bill Strathearn
Deprecation != "not using anymore." More like, "Will eventually not use anymore."
- Daniel Dulitz
Sam struggling to stay awake in the comfort of Auntie's arms. He's gotten quite a bit bigger as you can see from his chubby baby cheeks :)
Chieze Okoye, Junebug (aka Sarah Jill), Derrick and 4 other people liked this
Btw I know I'm biased but I can't be the only one that thinks Sam's lips are perfection, right?
- Michael Hocter
Twitter is A way, not THE way...
Bonnie Foster, Adrian, Chieze Okoye and 9 other people liked this
and that just barely.
- Jim Hearts FF
I loved Dave Letterman sending out his first tweet on his show last night...........
- VAL D.
oh Johnny when will you just conform, tsk tsk
- Phill Price
Phill, I will conform the second it stops being 'lame' to not conform to hipsters :)
- Johnny Worthington
Damn right
- Mo Kargas
If Twitter is a way, driving down the highway in the wrong direction is a way...The WRONG way.
- Alex Scoble
You're just LAME Alex... Dead Lame :P
- Johnny Worthington
i've twittered twice, i think. i just don't see the appeal. but a billion other people can't be wrong, right?
- Morgan Haley
If LAME = Not liking Twitter, I can live with that label
- Alex Scoble
I prefer 'I'm not a Twipster'
- Johnny Worthington
ROFL, Morgan, More people believe that Obama isn't a proper citizen of the US than use Twitter.
- Alex Scoble
Proof that the human race is stupid
- Mo Kargas
Free And Simple Ways To Start Monitoring Social Media - http://blog.yacktrack.com/2009...
Louis Gray liked this
Today, Johnny Worthington is brought to you by the good folks at Red Bull... Red Bull, it gives you conciousness...
Live4Emma (L4S), Darren Heydon, Josh Haley and 17 other people liked this
it gives you weeeeengs!
- Morgan Haley
did you break out into song immediately after this pic was taken?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
"What's that, little Red Bull can? You want me to punch who in the nose?"
- s t e v e
*ducks*
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Your advocacy of this ... 'beverage' ... is distressing
- Mo Kargas
not sure about wings; it always gives me vicious headaches...
- Andrew Terry
At least swap it for a Jolt !
- Mo Kargas
Loading Adobe Photoshop CS3 - http://www.dailyhaggis.com/2009...
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Michael Fidler, ashish, Osman Aydın and 59 other people liked this
Almost there..
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Ha!
- Micah Wittman
Hah.
- Fulaan, inna Hebel
I hate that bloody thing.
- EricaJoy
looool :D
- Can Mert Bozkurt
has it loaded yet?
- Mike Nencetti
Keep watching, it shows you a brilliant feature that is hidden in the program after it loads.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
I think it's almost finished loading....
- Mike Nencetti
Waaaaiiittt for iiiittttt....
- rowlikeagirl
So close! It's on the final load now, I just know it..
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
PS3 - it's CrashTastic!
- Morgan Haley
AWESOME
- Jorge Escobar
Look at that name just under the watch cursor... YEAH BITCHES!!!
- Johnny Worthington
Youze famous.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
@Johnny I'll be seeing you with my pitchfork soon, good sir.
- EricaJoy
(It's not me... but still!!!)
- Johnny Worthington
*gathers angry designers and torches*
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Now, rather than from a hard drive, imagine PS loading from an audio cassette tape - a whole truck load of them. You wouldn't need an animated GIF, you'd just need a GIF.
- Micah Wittman
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
- Josh Haley
:)) cool
- Shandiz
omg it's very scary looking at this for too long
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
at this time i'd be tempted to reset my computer
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
almost there :)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Go get a cup of coffee while it's loading. Fly to Columbia for a cup.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Adobe Reader also does that. One of the reasons why I use Foxit Reader for PDF's.
- Vishy
Vishy: Try Adobe Reader 9. They fixed that issue, it doesn't load all its crap on launch any more. Now it loads it on demand instead. Adobe Reader 8 did the slow load you're talking about.
- Otto
:)))
- Armand
What the hell is it loading?
- Xitong Liu
I think.. and i'm not sure here.. but I don't think it's supposed to be loading still after 3 days. Should I Force Quit? :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
give it a few more minutes....
- Mike Nencetti
Just hold the whole system under warm water for about 7 1/2 minutes. that should help complete things once and for all.
- Morgan Haley
Reticulating splines?
- LogEx
+100000000 LE
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
I am still waiting :)
- ashish
how warm was the water?? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Going to attempt right now! #%*&%@#NO CARRIER
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
Remember when we all used to comment on each other's blogs? That was all of about two years ago. What the heck happened?
Sean McBride, Tracy, Jérôme Flipo and 17 other people liked this
I actually have very high hopes for solutions like Salmon (http://www.salmon-protocol.org/) to bring us back to the best of both worlds. Rich, detailed posts with topical comments on the original site, intermixed seamlessly with the discussions taking place on aggregators like FriendFeed and Facebook. It's possible -- we just need a little bit of tech to make it happen.
- DeWitt Clinton
Me too - I miss those days, and I worry Twitter has distracted us
- Jesse Stay
Some of my best relationships have been built by commenting on others' blogs - it still works even today, but now I guess it's more a secret than it was before.
- Jesse Stay
I'm hoping for a return to the usenet days, where I could follow a conservation from one client. Conservation is so fragmented since the blog era. Hopefully, this upstreaming of comments will allow a more integrated view and lower the probability of fragmentation.
- Ray Cromwell
Part of the problem is people simply taking less time to comment. There's a - relative - abundance of good content. Finding a good article is less special nowadays than it was some years ago. Less reason for a reader to engage with one specific author. There are other strong posts waiting for him in his reader, FriendFeed or Twitter stream.
- Meryn Stol
Imagine a world where people could follow blogs wherever the like (Reader, FriendFeed, on the original site, whatever) and all the comments made in each place would swim upstream and back out to where people were reading. We're super close. Would love to have FriendFeed be an early adopter of this.
- DeWitt Clinton
I think FriendFeed in part countervails that problem by making commenting so easy, and by "nudging" towards short comments, more intuitive responses. I think the old days of thoughtful responses in the comment section are not coming back. A true thoughtful response can be made into a blog post by itself.
- Meryn Stol
Assuming one has a blog anymore...
- DeWitt Clinton
I need to bring mine back. Almost a year gone by with no posts. I just got frustrated with my blogging software around the same time Twitter took off. But every time I tweet a little piece of me dies. I need to fix that.
- DeWitt Clinton
My main point is that I think new technology, better integration between blogs and aggregators and such can only do so much for us.
- Meryn Stol
A counterpoint, at least some new technology has brought more people together than ever before (plenty of examples right here).
- DeWitt Clinton
Oh I don't doubt that tech can bring us together, it's just that it's bringing us together in a different way than before. While twitter - imo - hurts thoughtful discussion, it has brought us "ambient intimacy". FriendFeed also have given rise to a new *kind* of conversation.
- Meryn Stol
The comments "swim upstream" idea is nice in theory, but there's the pesky problem of threading when a side conversation develops in one of the outposts. I suppose sticking with the @name convention helps a bit for sorting things out ...
- Laura Norvig
from iPod
I love the phrase "ambient intimacy", Meryn. But I partly disagree -- Twitter has brought us a Society of the Spectacle (in the Guy Debord sense). Nothing intimate about that.
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, hmm allright, maybe I'm romanticizing Twitter somewhat. FYI: The term ambient intimacy was originally coined by Leisa Reichelt: http://www.disambiguity.com/ambient... - kind of must read essay I guess.
- Meryn Stol
I have the same complaint: http://piaw.blogspot.com/2009...
- Piaw Na
I still have an active blog, but most comments seem to be coming from facebook.
- Piaw Na
No question it has changed. Salmon is a cool option, which I like a lot, but you can't undo the trend. Many folks believe that retweeting, bookmarking and Google Reader sharing is enough. I recognize I do this a lot, but I do try to participate in as many community conversations as there are, wherever they are.
- Louis Gray
Cuz Scoble says blogging's dead #thusithasbecomelaw
- sofarsoShawn
Salmon will be a very valuable solution. By allowing people to add comments in the environment they feel most comfortable with (and propagating them) I think the depth of conversation can/will increase.
- Chris Myles
Awesome paint job. Looks real.
Todd Lohenry, Terris Linenbach, JECO Photo and 47 other people liked this
Dead trucks make me sad :-(
- Jesse Stay
Josh is on fire. Oh wait, no, just his stream.
- Stephen Mack
not good
- VAL D.
LOL
- rowlikeagirl
lol
- Toby Graham
LOL[cubed]
- Adrian
lol Haley
- Christopher Galtenberg
Fikrizula, Louis Gray and zeno liked this
DO ANYBODY NO anybody who still uses StuffIt?
Kol Tregaskes, Louis Gray, BeeLing and 3 other people liked this
I still have it around. Still run into .sit or .sitx files every now and again.
- ronin
As in the phrase "Akvia no one cares about that service anymore so stuff it?" (I never use it.)
- SAM
7Zip.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I do use YouSendIt... from time to time... similar functionality?
- SAM
yousend it is OVER, get box.net. Stuffit is like zip, but sucks.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I still have it.
- joey
all the time
- sofarsoShawn
Box.net looks pretty nice... I hate that my huge-email-attachment-work-around is unfashionable. I will change immediately Jeremy.
- SAM
Yes, but I use it ti zip files instead of stuffing them, since it's what comes with OS X.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
Heh I used to work for them. Aladdin Systems
- Rodfather
SAM - I didn't mean to pull a Scoble. I got sick and tired of my yousendit e-mail going into spam folders, so my reaction came from a lingering frustration with the architecture and a real love of box.net.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
This puts a little more meat on the bones of built-in OS X zip handling: http://friendfeed.com/welovea...
- Micah Wittman
I have Stuffit 12 deluxe on both of my macs and it's the default app that deals with archived files....
- Kamala Whitaker
People in the graphic arts, I'd bet. I imagine some of their Mac OS 9 installs are going to be around for a while yet. And how else are you going to ship those resource forks and type/creator codes around?
- Clayton Wheeler
Hehehe @ Jeremy's "pull a Scoble"... actually much appreciated... box.net looks awesome.
- SAM
Wow. I'm surprised that many people still use it when zip (and on OS X, bzip2) are so standard.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My understanding is that resource forks and type/creator codes have been deprecated for a while, but I'm sure there are still a ton of apps that rely on them. I think tar on OS X can handle them, though.
- Victor Ganata
Haven't seen it in years. The Unarchiver (a great open source utility) handles anything I've come across that won't work in the default Mac OS X utility (BOMArchiveHelper.app)
- LogEx
I used to have about 15 copies of that and 20 more of SimpleText... back in the old days.
- Louis Gray
I am sorry I have met four entrepreneurs on France so far that aren't on Twitter. That is really lame.
Stephan Osmont, oriella, Jakala and 6 other people liked this
its pretty common outside of USA, most of my business associates in China or Japan are like eeeehhhh?
- Robert Higgins
Yep, sorry not to be american ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
More seriously, you have to take in account the "2 years late" France problem ... I'm afraid there is nothing to do to fix that ... ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Perhaps, Stanislaus, but is Scoble on MiniTel? ;)
- John Craft
it spells market opportunity to me. Do you realize that late comers to a market/game will have the advantage of starting at the current level, and not from scratch?
- Juan Pablo
They should be on LinkedIn though
- Maciej Burczyk
I assume you meant 'in' France :) In India too most professionals are on LinkedIn rather than Twitter.
- Brijesh
they r on at least one social network ie: facebook or linkedin or their popular local network for sure. thats from all my friend's couch-surfers from all over
- polou/indigo_bow
As to being surprised, one word: Miopia. You, me, and most people :)
- Micah Wittman
I think this is a good thing. Twitter sucks.
- Alex Scoble
Preach, Alex
- Josh Haley
Yep, if I was an entrepreneur, I would shun Twitter as being completely unusable for telling a story and having a conversation with ANYONE. It's unusable for anyone but marketers and an entrepreneur needs to be more than that, IMO.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: SOCK it to 'EM - POW! ~ Why would any entrepreneur (outside&inside Tech) waste their time with twitter - there's no meaningful gain for time spent
- sofarsoShawn
Alex: that's lame too. Ever hear of posting a URL to a blog inside Twitter? That lets you do whatever you want with Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
sorry...is twitter back up again...?
- Simon Hicks
It depends who you are trying to reach - Twitter isn't *that* big an audience
- Jesse Stay
Now, if they're not on Facebook that's a different story
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: every single tech executive, influential, blogger, and VC I've asked today is on Twitter. That's who I want to reach. I don't care about your mom. As I look around the room EVERYONE is on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Everyone in your audience, yes
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, everyone in the world :)
- Peter Smulovics
Peter, um, no :-)
- Jesse Stay
I'm friends with a ton of VCs on Facebook, and I learn a ton more about them there than I do on Twitter
- Jesse Stay
I should show you my executives list on Facebook - I get to talk to them on a personal level there
- Jesse Stay
I just friended Louis Gray's Mom and get to learn about his Twins on Facebook, all while building a stronger relationship with him
- Jesse Stay
I can pitch things to Maryam and get her to convince you to do stuff ;-)
- Jesse Stay
And that only touches the surface of what you can do with my Mom on Facebook ;-) (although she doesn't friend anyone but her direct relatives)
- Jesse Stay
I think that's an unfair statement Robert. Indirectly you are implying that Twitter is the definitive method of reaching out which is incorrect. Also, I think Twitter is a major distraction and personally I think any Entrepreneur worth his salt would not be wasting time on twitter but working on his idea.
- Parth Awasthi
The numbers tell all: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/faceboo...
- Jesse Stay
Parth - I'm an entrepreneur worth my salt (IMHO). I'm on twitter. It's a place to make connections much faster than you can in a room of other business folks, or secluded away working on your idea. Take your best efforts at networking and multiply them by an order of magnitude or two and that's the impact twitter can have on your reach and connections.
- Brian Schwartz
Jesse - your stats are completely ignoring API calls and most everyone who uses twitter uses a 3rd party tool.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, fine - compare API calls. Want me to show stats on the number of Facebook API developers vs. Twitter API developers?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse what's app just won the award for best iphone app for 2009? Tweetie.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, and that says what?
- Jesse Stay
OneForty's tracking just over 2,000 Twitter apps - they're probably the most complete directory
- Jesse Stay
Sorry, forgot friendfeed uses enter to actually post. Tweetie was one of the most popular and used apps for the iphone two years in a row. Facebook and twitter are different web applications. Farmville et al don't appear on twitter.
- Brian Schwartz
The Twitter development mailing list has almost 7,000 members
- Jesse Stay
The Facebook developer forum has just over 45,000 members
- Jesse Stay
How many of those are game developers? You don't need 45,000 developers to developer twitter clients.
- Brian Schwartz
Actually, according to their developer conference from 2008 the number of registered developers on their platform exceeds 400,000
- Jesse Stay
In 2008 Facebook also announced over 33,000 apps - that was just last year
- Jesse Stay
Twitter has plenty of game developers as well - that has nothing to do with this conversation - this is about *everyone* being on Twitter, or supposedly that being the case
- Jesse Stay
how many of them are business apps? How many do you actually use? I am active on both and think they have different business models and purposes. Robert's point is valid. If you're in web / tech you should be on twitter and that is correct statement.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, again, I think that depends on who you're trying to connect with. Most of the important people I need to connect with are on Facebook as well as Twitter, and I can be much more effective on Facebook than I can Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse yes you can do that on facebook. However, not everyone is willing to accept Facebook friend requests from strangers (which I personally don't do) and once their account hits 5000 friends, they have no choice but to transition new "friends" to a fanpage, where the interaction ca be less personal & engaging than twitter. Most people are willing to receive and respond to @ replies in twitter, even prominent people in web / tech space.
- Brian Schwartz
you gotta go where your customers are. If that is twitter - so be it. If not, don't waste your time on there.
- Simon Hicks
The people I connect with on Facebook aren't strangers. That's the thing - I build much more intimate relationships on Facebook. Not everyone follows back on Twitter either - you have the same problem there. Fan Pages aren't less personal either - each fan Page has to be fan'd by real people, and conversations occur in more than 140 characters, all with real people. They are much more intimate.
- Jesse Stay
The advantage Twitter has is it's easy to build an audience fast - it takes more work on Facebook. With Twitter, because the follow is part of the API it's a cinch to figure out ways to game the system and grow an audience really quick. I would then recommend transitioning that audience to Facebook where you can build even stronger relationships.
- Jesse Stay
But with the much harder audience building on Facebook it also brings a much more intimate experience, and much higher quality relationships.
- Jesse Stay
To you. This is a matter of opinion. I build relationships with people on twitter (similar to how you do on facebook) several of which I'm now friends with in real life.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, as do I - I have had much greater success on Facebook though, where most of my relationships also become friends. FriendFeed has similar qualities due to the size of the network here.
- Jesse Stay
But you have a twitter account, I see it on your friendfeed profile, Robert is commenting about people who don't, I agree with him, that is lame. If you are in the industry (and attending LeWeb) you should at least have an account.
- Brian Schwartz
My point though is that Robert's statement too is a matter of opinion - you don't need a Twitter account to be successful as an entrepreneur. You can be on Facebook and be just as successful, if not more successful without a Twitter account.
- Jesse Stay
Use the tool that gets the best results for you. I personally don't follow more than 1k people in twitter. I don't want to. But at least make an attempt to try the tools before you rule them out.
- Brian Schwartz
I should add that e-mail also makes a great communication mechanism, as do lunch appointments and in-person meetings, as does a blog. Twitter isn't 100% necessary. It's a tool like anything else.
- Jesse Stay
Get outside the US and you'll have strange faces if you mention Twitter (although I know many places in the US you get the same, even amongst executives and VCs)
- Jesse Stay
We are not disagreeing (other than a preference of tool) but being in web industry you should have a profile on all of these tools and understand what they do.
- Brian Schwartz
I'm not even really stating a preference - I'm just trying to show that there are many other options out there that would make Robert's statement false.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also surprised you get strange faces from anyone in the US about twitter considering it's Q rating in the media. I'm in the midwest (flyover country to most of the rest of the US) and our social media club meetings get between 60 - 100 people per month. You can't just ignore twitter.
- Brian Schwartz
I spoke to an audience of 1,000 a couple months ago and only an eighth (if even that) of the room rose their hands when I asked them who was on Twitter. Look at the numbers - Twitter is still very small, regardless of what your Social Media Club says.
- Jesse Stay
1000 of whom? Web folks? Brick and mortar businesses owners? I speak to marketing crowds and the majority of them are on twitter (if not personally, at least the brands they represent).
- Brian Schwartz
Again, Robert is at LeWeb. This should be an informed audience.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, software developers and entrepreneurs, including several executives
- Jesse Stay
Brian, Robert is also in France, where I am willing to bet not many of those VCs or Executives use Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
The theme of this years LeWeb is "real time web" should be a big enough of a hint what that audience would be discussing... I'm off to bed though, it's 2:36 local time for me. Cheers.
- Brian Schwartz
of course, but Twitter's not necessary if you live in France, unless you want to connect with Silicon Valley VCs or Executives, which even in that case there are other means of interacting with them.
- Jesse Stay
As far as I can observe, the french community of twitter is mostly crowded by journalists, bloggers, and social media enthousiasts in general. There are also plenty of entrepreneurs, but i think that as Jesse mentionned facebook is still the first place to be.
- Stanislas Jourdan
About LinkedIn, it is popular among geeks population, but viadeo (http://www.viadeo.com) is much more mainstream (probably because it is a French company ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Tell me... what's your pager number?
- Johnny Worthington
And since we are looking down on people for not having a Twitter account, maybe you could dig deeper for us Robert: How many entrepreneurs did you meet that didn't have a iPhone/Smart Phone? How many checked their email directly and didn't have a personal assistant filter it for them? How many listed their cell phone on their business card? How many used voice communication as thier...
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- Johnny Worthington
This is for Jesse regarding developers and apps using twitter - http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009...
- Brian Schwartz
Jesse Stays outlines it pretty inarguabley, your lists are great in a false conscious, augmented reality, but with real VC's & with real business, we don't operate through a tweet deck
- sofarsoShawn
Google is scrolling the Internet RT @jyri: Check out the Google realtime search results about Le Web: http://www.google.com/search...
Louis Gray liked this
all results are from twitter:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Hi , Join Ecademy now for business networking and support > - Share Knowledge - Build your Network - Grow your Bus.. http://hellotxt.com/l/04SRI6
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My mom @sw33ti3 said "I'm gonna put you in the cancer protection program"
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DOMO ARIGATO MR ROBOTO!
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どうもありがとうミスターロボット
- Anna Haro
Fighting Bots With Bots on Twitter, Leveraging SocialToo - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
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*eyes narrow*
- Mo Kargas
Pffft... you couldn't even win a poke war, Mo.
- Louis Gray
Says the vanquished ... 'opponent'
- Mo Kargas
Sucessfully finished my Google Campfire presentation with zero loss of life!
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You did great. Thanks for flying all the way out to MTV to represent!
- Joel Webber
Loads of fun. Got some cool schwag now as well. MTV campus is really slick.
- Matt Mastracci
Awesome presentation, Matt.
- Bruce Johnson
from BuddyFeed
Thanks guys
- Matt Mastracci
from iPhone
Thanks for coming and helping out!
- Andrew Bowers
Really well done, Matt. You're a natural at it.
- DeWitt Clinton
Just saw your presentation - thank you for that, Matt!
- Micah Wittman
Simler Adds Likes, Favorite Tags, Revamps Homepage - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
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Le Web: Q & A with Square and Twitter creator Jack Dorsey - http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009...
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Just sided a guy running a red light. Everyone's okay. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Glad to hear you're ok. Phew.
- Chieze Okoye
Thanks Chieze - I see Louis liked this. I never get any comments until he likes things :-)
- Jesse Stay
Not liking it, but glad you're ok Jesse!
- imabonehead
I aim to please, Jesse.
- Louis Gray
Glad everyone's ok.
- Alex Scoble
:( Glad everyone's ok.
- Derrick
Yikes. That could have had a different ending.. :-( Glad everyone's ok
- Andrew Terry
How fast is the wifi? I'm uploading big photos from #leweb here: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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