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- Chris Johnson
What is your favorite SQL database?
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MySQL is high on the list.
- Uncle CW™
MySQL, only because it's one of 2 I've set up and managed by hand. Apparently it took off more than PostgreSQL did.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Interesting. So far, it's just MySQL. Christopher, what makes MySQL better in your mind?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
MySQL
- Mike Reynolds
Microsoft SQL Server, just to be contrary and everyone keeps telling me it's Microsoft's best product whenever I say Exchange is.
- Alex Scoble
MySQL for it's simplicity with websites. MS SQL Server 200x and Oracle because they put food on the table.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Although I'm not a database guy, I like SQL Server.
- Alan Le
I hate SQL but I used to use MySQL because it was easy but then I migrated to Postgresql (probably just to be different). However, now I try to avoid database work whenever I can.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I want to say Access just to be contrary ;-) Dunno, I've dealt with Oracle, MSSQL and MySQL more than Postgre SQL. Of those three, I prefer the interface MSSQL offers, MySQL for size and speed, and Oracle for sheer unadulterated power.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Akiva, what's wrong with SQL?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
For what purpose? For corporate work like data warehousing I want Oracle. For anything smaller it would be MySql.
- Rob Diana
I really like Oracle, but it's overkill for most stuff. I have a special place in my heart for PostgreSQL, but my workhorse RDBMS is MySQL.
- Mark Trapp
MSSQL
- Chris Johnson
I'm kind of sad that I'm the only woman that's answered this question. Come on lady geeks!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
MS SQL .
- Kamath (नमः)
MS SQL is my default. MySQL when I'm going for free or w/ PHP. Oracle if I need a huge cluster and several terabytes, though MSSQL is catching up on that. Access or SQLExpress if I only have one user.
- xero
MySQL
- AJ Batac
Okay, fine. I'll admit the truth: Cornerstone.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Let me add that I didn't care for PostgreSQL the one time I used it. MSSQL 2005/8 is my all around database server. Oracle 10g/11g is for multi-terabyte databases. MySQL is for smaller hosted websites. Corporate rocks!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
from fftogo
SQLite. Well, okay, I write a lot of standalone utilities that need storage.
- Morton Fox
MySQL
- Sudar
MSSQL
- RAPatton
+1 Morton. I've always had a curious affinity for SQLite.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
SQLite
- Steven Hodson
Now if you asked what was my favorite Database I might have answered DB4.
- Uncle CW™
Sequels are never as good as the original.
- Todd Hoff
MySQL and Postgres are high on my list.
- Jim McCusker
Comma delimited
- Tad
Oracle
- cjmart
SQL Server
- Jemm
Postgresql, by far
- William Meloney
I use MySql and SQL Server regularly and like them both
- tj hanton
Postgres (PL/pgSQL!)
- rawwell
+1 Todd
- Anthony K. Valley ©
MySQL, cause I have a DBA certification for 5.0.. But then, I'll like to try out Postgres some day.
- Winston Teo
Microsoft SQL Server
- Rob Boek
Nonstop SQL from Hp (aka Compaq aka Tandem..:)
- Koba Yaschi
Microsoft SQL Server :-)
- Bita
Postgresq
- Svein Håvard Djupvik
Do you vote for a specific DB because it's the only one you know, or because you experienced a few and decided this is the best one for you?
- Amit Morson
MySQL & PostgreSQL for web & other critical apps. SQLite for others. It depends of what I need to achieve..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from twhirl
SQLServer followed by MySQL
- xero
My experience is mostly with MySQL and SQL Server 7. Based on those, I prefer MySQL.
- Kevin Fox
On Sunday I asked Google co-founder Larry Page what is the coolest place he has traveled to is. His answer was funny and is here:
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The arctic. More in a second
- Robert Scoble
I would love to go to the Arctic.
- Oliver Bayes-Shelton
Not space?
- SurajLuke
His wife, Lucy, is really nice. One of the nicest people I met in Davos. The prettiest place they have been? New Zealand. They said the people there were the nicest they have met too.
- Robert Scoble
Joanna Lumley would agree http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- IanBlackburnold
I wasn't expecting to hear a cold place.
- Robert Scoble
NZ is really nice. I wanna go back some time and explore even more of it.
- Simon Wicks
My wife later asked how the Pages got seated at our table. By sheer luck. Oh, and of course I asked if we could ride on the Google Plane. He said it was full already and that tons of people were asking. We were having lunch after the Burda/DLD/Booz ski race (I sucked).
- Robert Scoble
More interesting, traveling to more eccentric locations.
- Richard A.
They took that question literally. : ) I guess the artic is where they like to chill. . .
- Kyle
Arctic is certainly one of the coolest places I've been :)
- Nicola Quinn
As a New Zealander, that's very nice of Larry and Lucy to say so.
- Simon Taylor
Simon: Steve Wozniak and my dad say the same thing.
- Robert Scoble
Robert where is your coolest place you traveled to?
- Jadito
Jadito: my heart will always be in New Orleans. But if I had a jet waiting to take me anywhere I would probably guide it to Paris.
- Robert Scoble
Remote parts of Ireland (unfortunately diminishing) - where magic exists
- Candy Schwartz
Robert, then you have never seen Svalöv! Haha ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Why is the arctic a funny answer? It really is the most amazing place on earth. You should go Robert you would love it. I'm a kiwi. Thanks larry's wife :) we are nice.
- Chris Johnson
Chris: when I say "cool" I don't mean "cold."
- Robert Scoble
With all my respect I'd advice you to see Istanbul. (Has anyone been to Istanbul?)
- Ozgur Poyrazoglu
Robert: BTW today is Waitangi Day, 6 February, the day New Zealanders celebrate (or protest) the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi between Maori chiefs and representatives of the British Crown in 1840. This is our national day and for better or for worse, the treaty and its interpretation have helped shape the culture of NZ http://tinyurl.com/5vh3ys http://tinyurl.com/bpnbvf
- Simon Taylor
WHY did he like the Artic?
- Susan Beebe
Paris is also at the top of my list for great cities to tromp around in. Ozgur, Istanbul and Budapest are the two remaining places on the list of places I've never seen but would love to. I've heard from so many people that Istanbul is a great place to visit.
- jcunwired
Susan: Peace, clarity, air, landscape, people. For me anyway.
- Nicola Quinn
Skype 4.0 for Windows - Download the latest version of Skype and get free computer calls - http://www.skype.com/downloa...
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Has anyone tried the new Skype 4.0 version yet? feedback?/
- Susan Beebe
Yup been using the Beta as it works on Win7. Seems fine to me. It is a bit different layout wise from the previous version.
- Chris Johnson
Chris - thanks for the nice feedback!
- Susan Beebe
I have installed it. Like the layout. And you can still have thousand chat windows open at the same time :)
- Baard @ Pixum
I've tried all the beta version - and it seems that the guys made a great product after all these betas. Try it out - looks like and iTunes now ;)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
havent tried it yet.. but generally haven't gotten into the skype thing, even after all these years... :-/
- Anthony Citrano
I want the new MacBook (my dad told me to say that).
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Rebel! Tell him you want a PC and you hate FriendFeed! Do it!
- Andrew Feinberg
Is there a new MacBook coming?
- Mistletoe Glen
Get a real laptop.
- Alex Scoble
New MacBook?
- Roberto Bonini
You're a PC
- Chris Johnson
And you can put Ubuntu on it! heh.
- Robert Young
You are a good son.
- Russellreno
You can always get a MacBook and put Windows on it anyway! Be a maverick! :)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
No, +I+ want the new MacBook. Unfortunately there's this little thing called the economy that'll probably keep us on our old ones for quite a while.
- Robert Scoble
*cough* Alienware laptop. That's what you want.
- Candace
So do I. My dad can't arrange it for me. Trade you a used Latitude D610 for a Powerbook...and that isn't a typo.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Ask Charlie Anzman he's giving one
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Lindsay! Grr! Tell him to put on Debian or Fedora
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Nonono. Linux is for the rebels, visionaries, people of varying economic standings, and forward-thinkers. I think you're a forward-thinker, as well as a visionary and rebel, Patrick.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Robert is being frustrated by Facebook's iPhone app. it is time to go to sleep. or go to friendfeed which always works. .
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The crazy thing is, you're already here!
- Matthew DeVries
Heh.
- Robert Scoble
What are you doing there anyway? Better suck your tweets into Facebook than spending time there ;)
- Gaby K. Slezák
I think its in serious need of an update.... we had an update a few days ago, and its a little more stable, but the times are still all over the place
- Peter Cattell
Go to Friendfeed, or at least convince me to use it more regularly.
- Richard A.
The times are stuffed, sometimes it says 14 hours ago, when really it was 4 hours ago
- Darren Heydon
What is a good twitter app for managing followers? I like tweet deck lots for actually getting tweets, but I've still been looking for something to manage who I follow and who follows me.
- Matthew DeVries
/me tears a page out of Facebook and prints a FriendFeed advert on it. ;)
- Tyson Key
Friendfeed, your comforting solace when Facebook is too much -- Which is quite frequently for me.
- Robert Miller
If FriendFeed ever gets an iPhone app I am in trouble.
- John Bellone
John, they already have one :)
- Rob Diana
It is an app or an iPhone UI?
- James Ward
I'm quite surprised no one has written a FriendFeed native iPhone app
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: What features would the App have that the iPhone web UI couldn't or wouldn't?
- Ben Hedrington
Ben - Contact management/integration, Better list management (using the iPhone's controls), Tracking features (i.e. auto-refresh a list or a search term for new updates)... these are off the top of my head
- Bwana ☠
FriendFeed rocks
- Venky Chinnathambi
Oh yeah, realtime support
- Bwana ☠
There are a couple of iPhone FF apps. None offer much more than the moble web UI yet however.
- Chris Johnson
Oh really, I haven't searched the app store in a while.. I guess that's my bad
- Bwana ☠
Is there a changelog that details what changed in the last update. All I have found is that events redirect now ha :)
- Joe Dawson
Whats Facebook?
- Simon Wicks
For the most part I can't be assed to mess around with troublesome 'apps' in Facebook, when I can usually achieve what I want to do outside of that closed environment anyway.,
- Ian May
I totally agree Ian
- Chris Heath
Facebook has become useful for me since I tweaked my privacy settings with various friend lists and deleted just about every Facebook app available :) I'm sticking with Photos, groups, and status updates
- Bwana ☠
FriendFeed's uptime is pretty impressive.
- Thomas Hawk
Pascal's Wager and Climate Change - http://radar.oreilly.com/2009...
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Thank you Tim for being a consistent, calm, and rational advocate on this issue.
- Stu Rich
Pascal's wager doesn't make sense for God, but it does for climate.
- Todd Hoff
This is so true...do the things that make sense not just for climate change, but for other reasons as well.
- Alex Scoble
exactly tim... exactly
- Chris Heath
In both cases I think my soul is on the balance. God however I think would know the motivation behind your adoration and the climate is indifferent (sorry Gaia)
- Todd Hoff
Well said.
- Meryn Stol
This article, like Pascal's wager, suffers from the false premise. Pascal assumed either no God or God as described in the Bible. When you add the possiblity that there is a God unlike the Biblical one, his agrueme t falls apart. If you reconize the potential waste of money / loss of freedom of some green programs; doing nothing is a viable option.
- Robert Hafer
Well, I guess you have no problems buying gas made from oil produced by the likes of Russia and Iran for the rest of your life then eh, Robert?
- Alex Scoble
Robert: doesn't that depend on the values to attribute to those? i would argue anyone who thought "potential waste of money" was more valuable than the earth surviving was a total fruitcake (aka crazy).
- Chris Johnson
did anyoneelse cash in on the US to Austraia fights with qantas? 894 USD return baby!!!
Just bought tickets to NZ. SEA-LAX-AKL-Rarotonga-LAX-SEA ... $1k each. CHEAP!
- Chris Johnson
WOW. Photosynth of "The Moment" (President Inaguration) be a part of the action: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIAL.... Very cool idea!!!
This is super cool. CNN and Microsoft creating a photosynth of the exact moment when Mr O is sworn in. Very cool. Will be great to see the outcome. AND if you are going send in your mobile phone pictures. Email address is in the post.
- Chris Johnson
How do you all feel about enterprise Instant Messaging?
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By way of disclosure I work - part time - for Brosix. An enterprise messaging service. Check it out at http://www.brosix.org
- Nation Hahn
We have one here, but I don't get on it. To me, it's worse than a Blackberry cause they know you are in the office and so you have to respond. =(
- Shevonne
I actually never worked anywhere that permitted it! But I know many large companies do employ presence apps/IM apps...I probably wouldn't have stayed logged off if I had to use IM at work though...I'm not a fan of interruptions
- Sarah Perez
I've only communicated with co-workers via IM (AIM, MSN, and now Skype) -wait, that came out wrong. Omg. COFFEE KICK IN PLEASE.
- Mona Nomura
We use standard IM (mostly AIM & WLM) to communicate across our 3 offices and with clients.
- Kevin Pedraja
I use it daily to communicate with my teammates. It allows us to easily communicate quickly and efficiently. You can ignore an IM, a phone ringing over and over is a distraction to me.
- Sloan Bowman
We HAVE TO use MSN and Skype at work. If you are not online - you are not working :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Sloan, agreed I sometimes cover the phone with a tea cosy :-)
- Sally Church
When I worked on political campaigns EVERYONE was on IM - and you either communicated via there or by email. That was normal for us - I was curious about others. So most of you work via clients that already exist it seems like?
- Nation Hahn
Lots of office communicator. It's integrated with our phone system.
- Chris Johnson
If by "enterprise", you mean some closed-off, in-house IM system that's only for the business, I feel the same way about that as I would about an "enterprise" email system where you could only exchange email with coworkers or an "enterprise" phone system where you can only call people inside the company. I'd never use it. If, however, you mean just using normal IM with co-workers, it's become the primary way I communicate with off-site team members.
- Ken Sheppardson
IM is indispensable in the office. I've worked in large companies, with customers and co-workers around the world, and couldn't function without it. Friends at smaller companies tend to say the same - so many people being cut means the people who are left have to do more, and usually do it all at the same time, and IM is an effective tool for quick, to the point communication.
- Chris Rogers
Use it all the time. We started using MSN messenger but we've now switched to a Jabber-based enterprise version for all in-house comms. Email is my primary comm tool but IM follows a close second.
- Philip Tomlinson
I'm currently testing deployments of Office Communications Server.. It looks great, but corporations should NEVER use the public ones. If it's becoming a useful tool internally then deploy internally otherwise your corporate convos are being spooled into MS or Googles databases that log them all.
- alphaxion
That is the way I feel alphaxion - you need a secure IM IF you are using it for secure, internal communications. That was a concern of mine on the campaigns I worked for.
- Nation Hahn
I'm all for businesses takes steps to secure their IM traffic. As long as they're consistent, and also consider their policy RE public web-based email systems like Gmail and/or hosted email solutions where they're using POP/IMAP to pull mail from some little ISP the CEO's nephew recommended.
- Ken Sheppardson
See also http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Ken Sheppardson
I was personally surprised when I joined the campaigns to find IMing to be so common. Although from many other businesses I have seen since then it seems to be a fairly common practice.
- Nation Hahn
I'm waiting to see Cisco's Jabber roll out in an appliance or peripheral edition.
- Jay Cuthrell
What other IMing clients do people recommend?
- Nation Hahn
We started using Office Communicator last year. At first it was just us IT folks, but we're done testing. I sometimes use it to respond to email, or even instead of sending an initial email (because the last thing I want is more email to clean up). Sometimes I use it to communicate with co-workers who are on the phone, or rather than calling. I even have the WinMo client.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
At a call center I used to work at, EPop was used until I arrived and Omni-Pod was used until I left. Omni-Pod was ridiculously handy and it seemed like it was fairly well self contained. They moved to communicator because it seemed whatever setup they had with Omni-Pod was not large enough for the company.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
U.S. Airways Crash Rescue Picture: Citizen Journalism, Twitter At Work - http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009...
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Twitter, again, providing fastest updates. Army of citizen journalists.
- Hutch Carpenter
This picture is incredible. Big props for those pilots!
- Tracy Benham
Wow. Great picture too!
- Craig Eddy
Hutch, that's wrong IMHO. Journalism is not what about this. I mean, that's just reporting witnessed facts nothing more... even the folks in the buildings (in the background) saw that plane. Sorry, I don't believe that This may be called "journalism"
- directeur
As reported on Silicon Alley Insider: http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
directeur: you're wrong. That is EXACTLY what journalism is.
- Robert Scoble
Robert definitely NOT! Why do people go to universities and schools? I could have been on that plane an twitted this, am I a journalist for having that "bad" chance? I don't think so
- directeur
directeur: journalists do NOT need to go to universities and schools. There is NO prerequisite of such to being a journalist. (I did go to journalism school at San Jose State University). Schools teach you law and how to do it better, but that's not a pre-requisite.
- Robert Scoble
directeur: to be schooled in traditional journalism. the old way.
- Chris Johnson
Chris: I've met plenty of professional journalists who never went to journalism school.
- Robert Scoble
This is true citizen journalism.
- Robert Miller
Robert and directeur: Twitter is the reporter and Tweeters are the sources. As Twitter is coldblooded and unslanted (ideally) it's a better reporter than most college trained journalists. I could give a damn about good writing, I want truthful information.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert, and Chris, still not convinced sorry. Journalism is about ethics, art, and a science. That's not simply reporting things. Even reporters learn what to report and how to do it
- directeur
directeur: Consider the various purposes of journalism. One includes "witnessing facts" and reporting them. It need not be a complete story with word on where the flight data recorder is, and histories of US Airways flight safety. Simple pics like this provide a lot of info: intact, alive, where the passengers are currently, who is doing the rescuing, etc.
- Hutch Carpenter
directeur: you are so wrong. So so so wrong. Did you go to journalism school? I did and you have no clue. Journalism is the act of capturing and reporting the news. THIS is journalism.
- Robert Scoble
Sensationalist reporting of events is different than in-depth analysis of events, the history that caused them, and the impact they may have on the future. Unfortunately, both get lumped under "news," and that is a shame, but in my mind the latter is journalism, and describing a plane crash certainly is not.
- Nadine Schaeffer
There are plenty of great artists who never went to art school, exceptional web developers with English degrees, and mathematicians & engineers who flunked high school.
- Tom Harrison
Nadine, Rod - if you see a write-up of the city council meeting in the paper, without in-depth analysis, what do you consider that?
- Hutch Carpenter
Robert, okay. You're right for I'm just a computer scientist and you surely know these things better than me. What I meant in fact is that "journalism" is more than reporting. that was my humble opinion
- directeur
Rod: bullshit. The only difference there is getting paid to capture the images.
- Robert Scoble
Hutch: News, not journalism, and a waste of paper at that :P
- Nadine Schaeffer
Robert: No i mean they go to university to learn the old outdated way of journalism. The old retired way! :)
- Chris Johnson
I would argue that *true* journalism is a simple, disinterested reporting of the facts. Too often, "journalists" give their own slant to stories (right and left) turning it into commentary, though still labeled as journalism. This guy truly is doing journalism.
- Joey Gibson
Rod - A credentialed journalist shoving a microphone in the face of a witness is however? I get the line you are trying to point out... but analysis is only a part of journalism... sometimes it is just showing what is happening.
- Brian Roy
RIGHT ON! SAVE THE PEOPLE!
- Pete Barry
+1 Nadine, exactly what I meant! :)
- directeur
directeur: That is ONE form of journalism, and we have been seeing that decline for years. I do like well written peices too ... but this is the way the world is going. There will be a place for both i think.
- Chris Johnson
Directeur, consider the distinction between 'journalism' and 'journalist'. Journalism is an activity that anyone can engage in, just as anyone can engage in accounting, or play a game of soccer. A journalist usually refers to someone who does that for a living, but note that there is no requirement that they have received formal training. Some livelihoods do require formal training and certification, but others do not.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Rod Bauer: You are joking right??? You really think modern journalists (if that is what you can call them) are independent of corporate/government influence and that they have that level of ethics. come on ... what planet do you live on.
- Chris Johnson
Rod: Where does the advertising-support, often sensationalist evening news fall?
- Tom Harrison
As Chris said, there is a decline of true journalism, and it saddens me. All the tweets in the world do not make a single well written editorial from the New York Times or financial analysis from The Economist.
- Nadine Schaeffer
Chris. Standards are goals, and of course not all achieve them. Do you want to throw out standards? There are many corrupt politicians but do you want to stop holding them to a standard of honesty?
- Rod Bauer
But the point is that you need not be employed as a 'journalist' in order to engage in the activity called 'journalism'. As for the ethics and standards comments here, I will note that for the most part journalism does not have the attributes of a profession (such as a required code of ethics and a certification board: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...), so it really is actually a trade.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Tom. There is lots of "journalism" that falls short. Far too much these days, and that is why journalism has such a bad rap now. It's a fucking hard business to get right. But that's why it is so important. Twitter is great for breaking news, but it doesn't replace standards, investigation, and seeking out other sides of the story.
- Rod Bauer
Rod: I certianly do think they should uphold a certian standard. I just dont see your link between being called a journalist and how that somehow implies a level of standards.
- Chris Johnson
I don't know if referring to them as "journalists" is right or wrong. But here's a thought. People who took these pictures, or tweeted this are sources. The role of the "journalist" in the old media isn't relevant - or has been eliminated here. The middle man/ moderator is gone. Sources reach the audience directly unfiltered - the audience (on twitter, FF) as a whole now consume, authenticate and validate the story.
- Kamath (नमः)
I would welcome a "citizen fireman" to help save my burning house, but I would prefer a professionally trained fireman with his/her knowledge and experience. I also would not first choose a "citizen doctor" a "citizen lawyer" or a "citizen airplane pilot."
- Rod Bauer
So although the folks who reported this *are* not journalists, what they did *is* actually journalism. Which leaves aside how well or poorly they did it.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Michael. I think the word "witness" suits this situation better than "journalist."
- Rod Bauer
Consider the following parallel: 'Publishing' vs. 'publisher'.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Rod, sticking with verbs, he didn't just 'witness' this, he also 'reported' it. Would you be more comfortable with calling what he did 'reporting' rather than 'journalism'? It's a fuzzy line.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Michael is right. This guy was NOT just a witness. Witnesses watch. Journalists journal and report. This guy did journalism as good as any other out there. The only difference between him and a "pro" today is that a pro would have had a higher resolution camera. Absolutely no other difference.
- Robert Scoble
Or perhaps you would be more comfortable calling this 'photo-journalism' rather than 'journalism'.
- Michael R. Bernstein
I always carry a couple of cameras with me, even to the bathroom in my own house. Just in case something big happens, I want to be ready. Ready to Document the Disaster. Support the Survivors (via a record of events). and Sell the Story. once the all clear is given....I'm still pretty much disaster free and don't have too many pictures of people trapped under parking structures....so maybe i'll leave a camera behind next time....
- Morgan Haley
Michael. Your semantic distinction is valid and thought-worthy. My concern is primarily about standards and authority. Our problems in those areas have always been huge and the Web complicates them. Maybe the Web will make them better...I'm a Web guy, so I'm optimistic. I fear that in our rush to get news ultra-fast, we will throw out the best of what the guys in the newsrooms (the best of them) have been striving to refine in the name of "journalism."
- Rod Bauer
I applaud Morgan's diligence, but I hope he doesn't document any bathroom disasters.
- Kevin Fox
Rod, if you're a web-guy, then... what do you think of the distinction between 'programming' and 'programmer'? Do you support efforts to professionalize computer programming, up to and including professional certification, in order to promote standards and authority?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Morgan. LOL. The day you don't take the camera to the bathroom is the day the plane emergency lands on the roof and you end up with an airline hostess sitting in your lap.
- Rod Bauer
So historically... how much would the average professional news photographer make for taking this sort of shot, which now seems to be proliferating everywhere, mostly without attribution, let alone compensation?
- Ken Sheppardson
Absolutely amazing. What this illustrates most to me is that "people," regular "people" are realizing and understanding their growing influence in the media spectrum. This guy could have done nothing. He took the time to shoot it, and tell the story via Twitter---to share the story. He's obviously aware of the power of Twitter and other social media platforms. He has influence and has a voice---everyone does---but not everyone knows how to use it...but that's quickly changing.
- Jennifer Windrum
how will Janis Krums be compensated for news agencies using his image? does he give up rights when he publishes it to twitter?
- Neil Bernhart
Michael. They're not the same. Journalism has a social responsibility that doesn't exist in computer programming. In that sense journalism is closer to the practice of medicine. Journalism at any level can't escape social responsibility. In limited areas programming could benefit from certification (security, for example) but otherwise the term programming will also always apply to non-professional activity.
- Rod Bauer
The TwitPic terms say "All images uploaded are copyright © their respective owners", so there's no Creative Commons in effect.
- Ken Sheppardson
TwitPic should grant Janis Krums stock immediately, BTW.
- Ken Sheppardson
Whoah. Rod, you are *so* wrong. I will give you counter examples from both trades: First, I don't think you'll find much social responsibility in the entertainment section of your newspaper. Second, what about the programmer responsible for working on the software that operates a pacemaker, nuclear reactor, or radiation therapy machine?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Great pic. As for "journalism", if I tell you it's partly cloudy, does that make me a meteorologist?
- Andrew Smith
Andrew: No, in the same way that telling me a plane just crashed doesn't make you a psychic. But both tasks make you a journalist of varying degrees.
- Kevin Fox
What's messed up is that I'm actually more nervous when I forget to bring a camera somewhere. What a geek huh? What a dorky wimpy chicken geek.
- Morgan Haley
Michael: a programmer needs *knowledge* and that knowledge is the "merit". Someone who reports doesn't need anything. Or maybe eyes and a mobile? (So, Poor blind folks without a mobile! vae victis)
- directeur
Kevin: I *knew* you were going to write that. <psychic/> :)
- Andrew Smith
Michale. There's a difference between a job having to meet standards because that job could affect society and a profession that has standards. Sure, a programming contract for a nuclear reactor has to meet standards, but programming in general doesn't. I disagree with you about the newspaper entertainment section. I've been a newspaper arts critic. Even though much of what I wrote was my opinion, I still felt (and was held to) standards of truth, accurate sources, etc. It is fuzzier tho', in those sections
- Rod Bauer
directeur: a journalist needs one thing: distribution. That used to be through newspaper, radio, TV. Today it's Twitter and friendfeed. That's one thing that separates "journalists" from "people with cameras." Lots of people probably took pictures today, but how many of their photos or videos have you seen? This guy understood how to get distribution. THAT is key today.
- Robert Scoble
Merriam-Webster clears things up: [http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction...] "1.c - an academic study concerned with the collection and editing of news or the management of a news medium" ... "2.b - writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation"
- MikeAmundsen
'Programming in general' is well on it's way to affecting more people than journalism, though. Traffic lights? Voting Machines? The guy who was paid to put back doors into voting machines? The developers *at* Twitter that made this story possible? Virus and other malware writers? Google? "Windows isn't done until Lotus won't run"? Whoever writes those horrible content filters installed...
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- Michael R. Bernstein
Actually, distribution is still newspaper, radio, TV. Most of the country and world have never heard of Twitter or FF. CNN.com would be a more appropriate web analogy.
- Nadine Schaeffer
So by definition from Mike 2.b "...without an attempt at interpretation" it was journalism right up to the point in the tweet where he says "Crazy".
- Andrew Smith
anybody can be in the right place in the right time and twitter a couple of sentences, maybe post a pic. do they deserve awards? hell no. doesn't mean they can actually write an article.
- Terry O'Fee
Terry: many a Pulitzer Prize has been won by someone who captured a world-changing photo that weren't professionals. During the earthquake in 1989 I handed a camera to someone who had never used one before and taught him how to shoot -- he made two award-winning photos that day that we ran on the front of the newspaper.
- Robert Scoble
a photographer and a journalist, i'm talking about writing a proper well thought out article. don't get me wrong, this might be a good way for some people to get into whether writing, or photography. but in the end he's going back to work tomorrow with just a lot of followers who will probably unfollow him in a few weeks time when he tweets like normal. this is a great way of getting news out, i grant you that but I don't know if a tweet entry is really worthy of a walkley award just yet....
- Terry O'Fee
Terry: well, I'm sure we will see one photo shared via the real-time web that will win a Pulitzer at some point. The Pulitzer committee doesn't care if you are a 'pro' or not. They just look at the impact your photo has on the world. Pulitzers get handed out because you were "there" and captured the right moment. Last year's winner: http://www.pulitzer.org/works... -- this photo taken today will certainly be considered.
- Robert Scoble
If there are indeed journalistic standards (cf. doctors and lawyers), where can I go to take the test?
- Mistletoe Glen
Glen: exactly. No test and no standards. This whole argument is bulls**t. If you journal and report news you are a journalist. Period.
- Robert Scoble
journalists get paid though. how is this leading you into a paying job, is what im trying to say..
- Terry O'Fee
In my mind what the people did on site is report. They reported what they saw and what happened. A journalist will now go take the time to interview the people, get the names right, find out what happened, stick with the story, and try to put the situation in some sort of context. Twitter etc will always be better at reporting. Journalism takes time and resources most people don't have, yet both can be done by anyone. Punditry is what most people end up doing in practice.
- Todd Hoff
exactly! telling the world is one thing. putting some effort into your work?
- Terry O'Fee
This photo was better than the ones cnn.com and bbc news online had three hours ago when I first saw this pic mentioned on twitter.
- Ian Fogg
Ian - I don't mean photography. Photography in news is a whole other kettle o' fish. (i just hope future news isn't taken on a shitty 2MP hypephone :P)
- Terry O'Fee
Terry - hadn't read your previous comments. I was just commenting on the photo itself (Friendfeed desperately needs threaded commenting to avoid this kind of crossed wires). What I like is the sense of being there, the fact that it was clearly taken very early on before the plane sunk in the water and most passengers had been rescued. The pro shots on cnn.com and BBC earlier looked like they were taken from high up from a helicopter or a tall building -> the photo journalists should have found a fast boat.
- Ian Fogg
oh, i agree with you. these phones these days (i mean good ones) can make some amazing pictures. my n95 has the same power as my normal camera :P
- Terry O'Fee
You are an idiot if you sell your Apple stock tomorrow - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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Geez! Don't tell people that. I was gonna make a killing on the bounce.
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Disagree, AAPL had a Jobs premium built in that it wouldn't have had otherwise
- Duncan Riley
So Duncan - you thesis is that people who already own Apple stock are idiots?
- Brian Roy
I agree with Duncan, Apple/Jobs should have had succession plan ready, stock is gonna tank for the short term.
- adolfo foronda
adolfo: What makes you think he didn't?
- Ken Sheppardson
and a genius if you buy
- andy brudtkuhl
When the smoke clears it will be a good time to buy.
- Rolf Schewe
..doesn't, I mean, as this is said to be a <6mo leave.
- Ken Sheppardson
Immutable Law: sell on good news, buy on bad.
- Carter Rabasa
I have to agree with Duncan. Steve IS Appl. He has done nothing to groom a replacement (as was evident at this last macworld). Steve is a total megalomaniac I think he secretly wants Apple to fail when he leaves so that he, not Apple, will always be remembered as the great one.
- Tac Anderson
Ken -- do you seriously believe Jobs will be back -- ever?
- Brian Sullivan
When was the announcement? Did Apple wait after the closing bell?
- Bryan R. Adams
Wow Tac - I assume you've had a lot of one on one time with Steve... maybe hanging out at his house... What other intimate details can you provide based on your intimate relationship?
- Brian Roy
Ken, a 7% drop today screams it, I hope Jobs gets well but they should have taken a slow easing in approach as opposed to this pr disaster, just wait till tomorrow stock is gonna tank, not a good plan they just crapped on their shareholders.
- adolfo foronda
Also, don't forget that Apple has $20-some-billion in cash equivalents and no debt. That's almost 1/3 of it's market cap at $85/share.
- LogEx
Tomorrow's opening for the Nasdaq is going to be fascinating. CNBC is going to get a lot of eyeballs. My two will be there to watch the trainwreck.
- Rolf Schewe
you're wrong rob, apple has peaked and this won't help
- Bob Sonin
Brian Roy, you're right I was way too harsh on Steve.
- Tac Anderson
I have to say, with the greatest respect, that this might have been the silliest post you've blogged, reminiscent of Blodget in his 'prime'. You come across as a fanboi (which I am too) not a rational investor. Please Robert, stick to enthusiasm about the shiny shiny new stuff...
- jeremy ettinghausen
His health issues are not news. Anyone market maker worth their salt would have factored this into the share price before today's events. There maybe a run because of the"idiots" but it will recover quickly.
- Mel Buckpitt
Duncan: it's too late to sell at this point. The stock has already been hammered and you are just going to sell at the low.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Jobs has done alot for the company but you are a moron if you sell the stock just based on his lack of presence. He is not a one man show.
- Shaun Haney
Robert, the low till tomorrow
- adolfo foronda
I believe there is a certian element of Apple == Steve. Will the company be the same without him? I doubt it. If he micromanaged and controlled everything as many have said there will be a decline in product vision and quality. Maybe they should have had other people sharing the public face of the company for a while longer than they did (what was it 3 weeks?). I cant name another apple exec who i have actually seen keynote anything.
- Chris Johnson
Having said all that ... i wish him all the best and hope he gets well.
- Chris Johnson
@brian, not at all. I'm just saying that the stock price had a premium built around Jobs. The outstanding question though is how much? Robert, you are correct, I hadn't looked at the stock price when I wrote the comment (was out, so via iPhone), but given the 6% drop in after hours trading, you'd think twice about dumping tomorrow. Having said that though, full trading gives a better picture, and it might go lower yet
- Duncan Riley
Duncan - If I'm paying a premium on a stock because of 1 employee than I am an idiot.
- Brian Roy
Duncan: it might go down more, sure, and might go down again on Friday after they announce their results. But this news is out there and you won't be able to sell in time now to take advantage of this news. So, selling now is idiotic unless you think Apple won't continue to release interesting products now that Steve is gone for a while (at minimum).
- Robert Scoble
a smart investor, would've sold it the minute the announcement was made; and would buy it back in a day or 2 when it bottoms out - but AAPL stock is too volatile for me anyhow, I don't have time to be watching it every day.
- clarke thomas
clarke: it was impossible to sell because APPL was halted before the news was made.
- Robert Scoble
110% agree with Clarke. Robert, true, it's too late to truly take advantage of the news,but likewise we still don't know how big the Jobs premium was in the stock. At a bet though I'd still think AAPL is a good bet: any company with zero debt and a reported $25b in cash reserves is always going to make a decent investment in the current economic climate
- Duncan Riley
agree with Chris; if you're going to sell sell when the market opens, it won't bottom out tomorrow, that will take 2-3 days, till it's a comfortable volatility.
- clarke thomas
The stock price reflects perceptions about the company, not the state of the company. It's not bad if the stock drops, because that's just an opportunity to buy for bulls, who would hold their shares anyway. I'd be happy to buy Apple at less than today's price. But what happens tomorrow, except as a speculative bet, is meaningless to Apple's continued success or failure.
- Mitch Ratcliffe
You're an idiot anyway, what does selling stock have to do with anything :P
- Bwana ☠
I'll buy @ $60.
- Aviv
if you don't understand corporate finance 101 you shouldn't be giving a skeric of investment advice, especially in these times
- Bob Sonin
since when does corporate finance have anything to do w/ stock price. Just because company is doing well or poor, has a minimal effect on its price. It's all based on speculation, what people thing it will or won't do in N time.
- clarke thomas
Apple has so much momentum and a great management team (as post pointed out), even if Jobs can't return, they will continue to innovate and remain successful. Also, re: succession plan, I bet Steve has a to do list for Apple for the next 10 years ;-) So the stock will tank for a while, but the company is likely to remain strong.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Given that Apple has high-priced products, I'd think that doesn't bode well in tough economic times. E.g., sales at Tiffany are much worse than at Wal-Mart. iPhone sales are falling off--a $75 phone bill is kind of a luxury. Jobs' leave of absence could just be the catalyst for the stock to move faster in the direction it was heading anyway.
- Joe Knapp
$79 in the pre-market. Not much off the after markets of last night. http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcon...
- Andrew Leyden
The massive drop in the Apple share price today was a full..erm.. 2%.
- John Clifton
So it seems everyone listened to Robert then, eh?
- Ken Sheppardson
It was the fear of idiocy
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: yeah, right. Every investor reads friendfeed and my blog, right? Hah! Or, maybe everyone who cared about Steve Jobs' leadership already sold their shares in Apple, like how Fred Wilson did last week.
- Robert Scoble
Hey, let the lemmings sell so that I can get in!!!!
- Troy Malone
Yep - trading at 83.38. Quite good, considering all the doom and gloom last night.
- Roberto Bonini
It ain't over. Someone will "leak" some more information about Jobs and it'll drop again. See exhibit A: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps...
- Bwana ☠
Massive 10ft Spinning Ice Circle Discovered in the UK - http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/feature...
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"It is thought that ice circles are formed when surface ice gathers in the center of a body of water rather than the edges. A slow moving river current can create a slow turning eddy, which rotates, forming an ice disc. Very slowly the edges are ground down until a gap is formed between the eddy and the surrounding ice."
- Gabe
from Bookmarklet
I wonder how common this is.
- Clare Dibble
Is it possible for one of these ice circles to act like a lens?
- Maggie
First crop circles now this!
- Chris Johnson
Maybe it was made by Andy Goldsworthy. Circles: http://www.goldsworthy.cc.gla.ac.uk/image... Ice: http://www.goldsworthy.cc.gla.ac.uk/image...
- Gary Burd
I use OneNote for all my meeting notes and general notes etc and then use Windows Live Sync to sync my Notebooks.
I use mesh to sync my notebooks between work and home. that way you get a backup in the cloud too. seems to work well.
- Chris Johnson
Google Now Has Themes for Causes - http://www.google.com/ig...
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For people who use iGoogle
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
about time!
- Susan Beebe
Interesting. Google playing catchup with Live Search.
- Chris Johnson
Cruel new BBC branding imposed on stars - Ian Morris, Televisions Editor - Technology Blog at CNET.co.uk - http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/ianmorr...
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"Imagine you settled down to watch your favourite spy-themed drama series, but instead of watching on regular BBC One, you chose the advanced showing on BBC Three. As you might imagine, this means tolerating the usual vile, bright-pink on-screen logo."
- Tyson Key
from Bookmarklet
the logo is right in the middle of both their heads - bbc three is about to shoot them!!
- ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
Why is it so far to the right in the first place?
- Simon Wicks
http://www.mail-archive.com/backsta... has a thread on this, and happened to have been how I came across it.
- Tyson Key
because of people living in the dark ages and watching TV in 4:3...'oh the humanity'
- Toby Graham
God forbid the poor bastards couldn't see the logo!
- Chris Nixon
Maybe they should just have a channel dedicated to the channel logo, that'll "fix" things. ;)
- Tyson Key
ha
- Michael W. May
LogoHD(TM)
- Tyson Key
Best spy series on TV. fantastic.
- Chris Johnson
Busty British tourist barred from NZ casino because of her 'offensive' breasts - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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"A British tourist has been barred from a casino in New Zealand for upsetting fellow punters with her 'offensive' breasts. Thirty-three year old Helen Simpson from Nottingham, was wearing a low-cut black evening dress when a woman staff member at the Christchurch Casino told her to cover up or leave. "She said I was wearing too low a top, which people found offensive," Miss Simpson said. "I was highly embarrassed - humiliated, absolutely humiliated. "There were girls at the casino wearing short skirts that I think are nothing more than belts. "I feel like I've been discriminated against for having big breasts." Miss Simpson, a business manager for McDonald's who is in her third year studying human resource management, said the matter had been handled unprofessionally. "The most humiliating thing was that everybody knew," she said. "All the staff were staring and the group of guys that complained - I'm sure it was them - were smiling." Miss Simpson has written to casino management saying she left feeli
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
"humiliated, discriminated and highly embarrassed". She wrote: "Being well-endowed in the upper region is something I did not choose in life and something I'm certainly not proud of. "Have you ever been shopping for a formal cocktail dress that is accommodating to a size 14 woman with the top half demanding a size 20?" Miss Simpson said it was discrimination. "You don't see women with...
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- Cee Bee
I take no offense to her breasteses
- Neil Bernhart
I've been in that situation several times. It sucks hardcore. I feel for Simpson.
- Admiral Anika
I could see if it were church... but... it's a casino.. ?!
- Alix Whitmire
Amusing that this girl gets defended, but if it was some hot chick int hat dress folks woudl be attackign her as a "ho" and making fun of her. All it takes is the air fo the victim to be defended.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
In a casino? Soulhuntre, please.
- Admiral Anika
They're Kiwi's, they prefer Sheep to busty women.
- Will Higgins™
....and I thought the puritans ruled the roost in the states!
- Gregg
And yet...as far as I remember from my Navy days (...not that I would know from first-hand experience.....) they allow prostitution there. And LOL @Lindsey in Love and @Will Higgins.
- Brian Bufalo
Sad to say i am a kiwi and ashamed of this. @Will Higgins: You must be an original sheep shagger (Aussie). @Brian Bufalo: Prostitution was legalized yes ... it actually makes everything safer believe it or not.
- Chris Johnson
Oooh no, don't attack me with those breasts....
- Amit Morson
Just for that I am NEVER going to New Zealand...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Internet Explorer 8 is 6,000x better than IE6, but it still bugs me. Google Chrome is the future. Here's why:
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1. Google Chrome is way faster.
- Robert Scoble
2. Google Chrome is a rethink. IE8 is a bug fix.
- Robert Scoble
3. Google Chrome has one box. IE 8 has two.
- Robert Scoble
Google Chrome is very light weight (including the UI)
- Vaibhav
4. Google Chrome works better with Google Reader and other AJAX sites.
- Robert Scoble
5. IE8 has too many menus and icons. Gives a real cluttered feel.
- Robert Scoble
IE's been a glorified bug fix since MS relabeled it from Mosaic, Robert - no secret there. :) I'm loving Chrome.
- teleken
WebKit is a really good rendering engine. I've always secretly wished IE8 would use WebKit as their rendering engine and scrap IE rendering, and somehow incorporate ActiveX and all of the IE features into it, since WebKit is open-source, not tied to a specific competitor (as opposed to Gecko and Firefox) and is fast and stable. – Have to agree about Google Chrome as well. It's a great browser. As much as I love Safari, I wish Chrome would come to Mac sooner :)
- Mark Bao
6. Google Chrome's search integration is magic. Start typing something and it figures out what you want. IE8 waits for you to finish, then brings up a boring web page.
- Robert Scoble
Any others?
- Robert Scoble
When it finally works on a Mac, perhaps I'll believe you ;)
- Jeff
If it didn't bug someone it wouldn't still be Internet Explorer.
- Josh Sharp
Looks like WebKit is the future, all mobile browsers have started using it.
- Vaibhav
Google Chrome and FLASH don't get along!
- paul mooney
Now I just wish Chrome worked better with Flash, or Flash worked better with Chrome.
- Dennis Jackson
Google Chrome is focused on internet. IE seems to mix to much other junk in
- Mike Scott
By the way, I wrote this whole item in IE8 running on Windows 7. If you are still going to use IE, please do get IE8. It is much better than previous versions.
- Robert Scoble
Not a big fan of IE or Chrome... I'll stick with FireFox.
- Steven Sanders
Google Chrome is slick...but I still like the simplicity of FireFox.
- Charlie Flowers
I love Google Chrome, I just wish the addon's started rolling out.
- Michael Fidler
Because the browser is a commodity... Connecting (correction - Deep Integration) with Google's cloud based services is the secret sauce.
- Brian Roy
Charlie: simplicity of Firefox? You've gotta be kidding, right? I love Firefox because of its complexity! (Plugins keep me there a lot of the time).
- Robert Scoble
I still need to play with Chrome in order to form an educated opinion. I'm just too hung up on Firefox still. :P
- Korey
Timely thread. I literally installed Google Chrome on my home computer within the last half hour (hey, I'm slow at these things - I'm not trendy). Just poking around a bit now, liking the speed. StumbleUpon support is an issue, but I'm reading up on it and other stuff. Just read Sarah Perez's post on privacy.
- Ontario Emperor
I h ave never been a fan of ActiveX. The fact that several websites still rely on it versus better technologies irks me and I refuse to use them.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
hope they add the tabs preview to Windows 7 when you hover over the taskbar chrome icon
- Vaibhav
Paul: Google Chrome gets along fine with Flash here. What are you experiencing?
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, I have to admit, IE8 is a pretty good browser, relatively speaking (relative to IE7 and IE6.) Renders my pages a ton better than previous versions.
- Mark Bao
Flash slows down Chrome for me pretty significantly, sometimes to where it's not even usable. Maybe it's just my computer.
- Dennis Jackson
How is IE6 a basis for comparison to anything anymore? Totally agree about Chrome.
- Bob Starr
loved chrome until I found out it wasn't compatible with my Roboform. I'm lazy and not too security conscious.
- BEX
IE 8 was supposed to be more compliant with standards, but it breaks a lot of websites which work in IE7, FF, Chrome. (Scratching my head)
- Vaibhav
Amen on the 'IE mixing other junk in' thought. I hate typing a hostname into it & it tries to hit a UNC or whatever the heck it's doing...
- Steven Byrnes
Chrome has a whole list of niggling problems and has had since day one -- they just never seem to get fixed. I like the speed and simplicity but Chrome will become the next IE unless Google starts paying attention to detail.
- Brian Sullivan
Chrome lets you create 'desktop applications' that don't get lost in all of those tabs and don't waste space with the address bar!
- Jon Issler
I use Chrome from time to time, but it just feels wrong when I do, I think I'll be sticking with Firefox.
- Randy
I am with Vaibhav on "webkit is the future as well"
- Peter Finn
Val: Privacy is dead. I really don't care.
- Robert Scoble
Chrome's biggest shortcomings right now are password security and the lack of plugins/extensions... Have to give Firefox a nod for having those two nailed!
- Jon Issler
I think Chrome is Google's paid service platform... http://www.johnworthington.me/...
- Johnny Worthington
Google Chrome is like FireFox back when it was Phoenix: Sleek, sexy and satisfying. Beta 2 adds autocomplete, profiles and a Greasemonkey style scripting.
- John Rubier
Chrome has built in Task Manager.... anyone? ..... alright, never mind.
- Vaibhav
@Dennis check your fans. If your on a laptop the fans and/or exhaust may be blocked with dust. that happened to me on my laptop, any flash video slowed my laptop down. realized one day (after reinstalling windows and still having the problem) that my fans had a lot of dust. used compressed air to clean them out, problem solved. happy laptop!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
One thing I know I liked about Chrome: The web-comic! http://tiny.cc/9Ck9L
- Korey
I'm amazed at how many flash/chrome issues there are. Ive never had any?
- Mike Scott
Looking forward to chrome coming out for the mac
- Kevin Whalen
I still see that firefox is the future! unless google chrome will be a 100% organic software http://snipr.com/9u3ld
- Mark Guadalupe
I love firefox and plug-ins, but does Chrome need plug-ins? I thought their deal was to run current and next-gen online applications better, which will likely preclude the need for the plug-ins we firefox users can't live without now.
- Bill Garrett
Robert, I really like Chrome too. The universal address/search/history bar is the future of browsing. There are only a small % of sites that do not work with Chrome... usually old school corporations, such as ones that I have to pay bills online at. Grr. Works 99.8% of the time for me otherwise.
- Brian
I just installed the Windows 7 beta. I fired up IE 8 and it didn't correctly render a nonprofit's Web site I administer as a volunteer (www.spauldingcenter.org). IE 8 didn't correctly render some of the CSS. I installed Chrome and Chrome got it right. IE 8 is obviously not yet ready for release.
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
I love Chrome and it is my default browser now. In fact all my flash problems in Firefox and IE went away in Chrome (video paused many times during playback, audio kept going). They are both memory hoars. Maybe a problem with too much Flash on websites? The lack of plugin support is very troubling.
- Chris Mayer
I'm keen for getting mac version of chrome too, though its going to be interesting to see how they're gonna handle interface
- Mike Scott
from IM
Re: 6. The search bar autofill? Err FF has that too for recently visited sites. If you get an Add-On it'll do the potential sites too.
- Adam
Google Chrome may be nice, but there was an "Epic Fail" on my system when Chrome decided that it was the default browser (out of four browsers) and would not directly allow me to un-check the Default-Browser checkbox. It was quickly removed.
- Robert Miller
I don't care about Internet Explorer any more. I switched to Firefox + Foxmarks, and solved a nagging problem - synchronization of bookmarks across multiple Windows *and* OS X machines - that the 'softies *still* haven't managed to solve, despite wasting a few developer-centuries on Live Mesh.
- Pat Rice
Love Chrome. Use it whenever I can. It does have problems with some sites, and I'm always having problems with flash crashing in it.
- cjmart
Kind of ironic that Chrome and Firefox and both performing much better for me under Windows 7. The beta Chrome release is really sweet.
- Charlie Anzman
@Pat: I use live mesh to sync my bookmarks between machines all the time. Add your favorites folder to mesh and you are good to go. Mesh for mac is available too.
- Chris Johnson
Google Chrome doesn't know what's RSS!!! FAIL
- carrotmadman6
I feel like people are debating the relative merits of tn3270 emulators...
- Brian Roy
I like the speed/lightness of Chrome, however i dont think it will be big anytime soon with anyone other than techies. Doesnt run many addins/plugins etc... Unlikely any enterprise will adopt it either. Its a great reference app.
- Chris Johnson
Chrome certainly is clean and renders fast, but until the experience can be customized via extensions like Firefox, there is no one way I can make it my primary. I just loaded Win. 7 on my laptop and the only thing I ported over from any of my other machines was my FEBE.
- George Rogers
Important point for me is that Chrome opens more of the monitor for the content on the page, not for toolbars that i do not need while browsing a page. no loss of functionality without the toolbar.
- Jeff DiStanlo
I wonder how many people even know what tn3270 is used for :) I know I do all too well.
- Patrick Allmond
+++ on this. FoxMarks is awesome. Just wish FoxMarks had an iPhone browser sync also :(
- Patrick Allmond
Any Flock 2.0 users here? If Chrome comes out for the Mac, I may take a look as well - but Firefox/Flock has been great for me for now.
- Erich Miller
@Robert: Maybe simplicity wasn't the right word..."ease of use" might be a better term. I think that FF's layout is not as radically different from the browsers I grew up with (IE & Netscape), as Chrome seems to be...maybe that's why I find it simpler to use. Having said that, Chrome is by no means complex, just not as intuitive as FF. As you mentioned, the plug-ins add to the ease of use. It seems you can get a FireFox plug-in for anything.
- Charlie Flowers
BTW, have you tried FF's AutoPager plug-in. That thing is amazing! It "automatically loads the next page of a site inline when you reach the end of the current page for infinite scrolling of content"...it's perfect for things like Twitter, Google, and yes it works for FriendFeed too. :D
- Charlie Flowers
I'm using Flock 2.0 on both Mac and Windows. I've uninstalled Chrome -- didn't care for it much since Flock does everything I need it to.
- Victor Solanoy
:hits the Googles to figure out what the Flock you guys are talking about:
- teleken
IE8 (and Firefox) offer a lot of tools to supplement your browsing experience. Chrome just gets out of the way. I'm not sure one or the other is a fundamentally superior approach.
- Toph Tucker
Installed Flock for all of 5 minutes. Sticking with Chrome, thanks.
- teleken
ctrl+t takes forever on IE8, and for what? A blank tab. I like Chrome's approach
- Andrew Smith
Firefox's is simple and extendable. Firefox' strength comes from its pluggability and ease of developing new plugins. Chrome needs to beat that.
- Angsuman Chakraborty
Chrome needs to support Linux before it can even think of replacing Firefox. Chromium port of Chrome on Linux isn't very stable.
- Angsuman Chakraborty
firefox plugins are the new activeX. there's too much functionality i use for me to shift *now*. i *do* like chrome, though.
- moogs
I like moving tabs into new windows, but does crashes alot w/ Flash
- Da
7. If one tab crashes, all the other tabs are unaffected. Let's see ANY other browser do that.
- Nathan Chase
i think i'll stick with firefox. so much more you can do with it..
- Terry O'Fee
Chrome is fast (unlike IE), has a very minimal UI (also unlike IE), and you can move tabs to other windows. I have never been able to get Firefox to open new tabs next to the tab they're opened from, instead of at the far right, plus I don't really care about extensions. Plus, I've never had any issues with Flash. The only problem is that my school email won't work in Chrome (but that's minor). Chrome wins for me.
- imperator3733
from twhirl
Robert - how is the performance of IE8 compared to Chrome and Firefox? Personally, I'd be using Chrome if I had my add-ons and greasemonkey scripts. I love Chrome's mult-tasking / memory management - very nice
- Susan Beebe
@Imperator, Firefox's UI can be slimmed down, and you can fix the tab issue with Tab Mix Plus. Also, Firefox 3.1 is faster than Chrome.
- Tanath
how bout: Chrome is CSS compliant? IE8 isn't, I know this by experience
- Duncan Riley
@Nathan -- as far as I know, IE8 separated tabs into different processes first....
- Toph Tucker
I think FriendFeed should put a comment button at the bottom of the comments... that said, Opera is the fastest, but it has a few shortcomings. I use FireFox or Chrome depending on what PC I'm at. Some sites only work in IE.
- Gus
Google Chrome uses your screen real estate more efficiently
- Aad 't Hart
Chrome focuses on the web and not on the browser and that's what a browser's supposed to do.
- Rohit
May be when there are basic extensions available for Chrome then it will be fair to compare with Firefox. For now, I don't see Chrome that useful, even though it's clean, a bit faster and provides more screen space. After a couple of days of using Chrome, I switched to Firefox as I felt less productive without the powerful extensions in Firefox.
- Amar Shah
When Chrome has an extension like Better GReader, TabMixPlus, and NoScript, then I'll switch, but FF has everything I need with the extensions. NoScript is about the ONLY addon I absolutely need to use for security of my computer.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
You can install extensions on the Chromium Builds! Go for it!
- Will Higgins™
love chrome as much as the next guy, but it does crash sometimes over simplest things, like downloading sth from gmail or greader. & it's not just one tab that goes - it all goes & only one comes back, either gmail or greader...
- siggimus
Chrome also crashes when importing Firefox Bookmarks, which makes it awkward to switch. But yeah, I would still use Firefox over IE 8.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
my mother understands the search-thingy-box in chrome.
- Svensonsan
@scobleizer I think this would have made a good blog post. Would have been easier to read you view points. The discussion could then have happened on friendfeed. Too many comments to read properly
- Sidharth Dassani
Chrome and WebKit are the future - just hope there's still room for Firefox. Remember how Firefox became Firefox?
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
I agree. Chrome focuses on opening fast, which is critical for impatient people like me. Firefox and IE are way too slow.
- Richard Crocker
WebKit can do CSS3 gradients, and I have only seen it in WordPress for creating actual images with gradients. Chrome is the future indeed! Extensions? heh, I use javascript bookmarklets to do my bidding! Chromes bookmark manager is more powerful than I expected. Passwords can be imported from FF but there is no backup option yet.
- Web20Critic
Chrome is really promising, but still incomplete imo. Being a web developer, I have deep connections with firefox plug-ins like FireBug (with Yslow), dev. toolbar and a couple more. But looking at the future, I think the final round of the browser wars will be between Safari and Chrome (ofc IE will still have at least 50% market) because Firefox gets slower and more agonizing with every new release, and lacks the support Apple and Google offers for Safari/Chrome
- Onur Cengiz
If chrome crashes, report it! Make a note of what you were doing and blog it, microshare it, post it on the chromium blog etc. This way all of us can help make it work for us! Nice thread for tech support, Mr Scoble!
- Web20Critic
7. Because Chrome has a new and improved version every week/month/quarter (depending upon the distribution channel) whereas IE version comes once in 3 years.
- Varun Mahajan
Robert: How did you get IE8 on Windows 7??? The installer refused to run when i tried.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto: it came with Windows 7. Or so I thought. I already had it loaded on this machine before I upgraded.
- Robert Scoble
This is my first Windows 7 message. Everything on my main computer upgraded properly. This is a winner.
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Windows 7 does sound good. I might give it a go next weekend.
- jon
I installed it on my mac, dont know why though
- Simon Wicks
Can you say anything about hardware specs, Robert? I don't know if MS is playing the NDA game with the beta release.
- teleken
Have you tried mouse hovering over the task bar in the bottom right (there's a small rectangle with no label) - does a nice 'show desktop' effect. Pretty cool so far eh?
- David Ing
Happy too.. so far so good...
- Aad 't Hart
I wanted XP rather than Vista, I really did. Now there's some slim hope?!
- Bernard (ben) Tremblay
I love Windows 7 on my old hardware! Just posted a review on my blog... :)
- carrotmadman6
teleken: if Vista works on it Windows 7 will work better.
- Robert Scoble
David: that's cool!
- Robert Scoble
Why does Robert get so impressed by every new technology ?
- Sidharth Dassani
Robert: Understood. Now the question is whether I drop it in Parallels on the MacBook, or go for broke/masochism and see how the Inspiron Mini handles it. ;) There's the real acid test for a new Windows OS.
- teleken
teleken, I have it on Fusion and on my netbook. Both work amazingly well. The only problem with using it on Parallels/Fusion is that you will not get Aero and hence won't get all the nifty Aero-dependent desktop features like Desktop preview, the preview panels etc.
- Kamath (नमः)
What are the minimum memory reqs on it?
- Jason Wong
Is it a winner because it actually installed correctly, or because you're impressed with the new feature set...
- Shay Frendt
Also, try left-clicking on a taskbar item and then dragging upward.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Shay: both.
- Robert Scoble
Looking forward to the release after posts like this. Read that idle W7 uses appr. 600-650 MB RAM. Anyone confirm those numbers?
- Migger
The real killer feature for Windows 7 would be a little dialog box at the beginning of the upgrade process that simply says "If you proceed with this upgrade, you will lose N days of productivity to trying to troubleshoot drivers, software incompatibilities, and reinstallation of incompatible programs; to re-learning simple UI tasks; and to experimenting with superficial cosmetic changes, all for marginal UX and performance gains . Do you want to continue? Yes / No"
- Ken Sheppardson
Jason: I don't know what the hardware requirements are but it uses fewer resources than Vista. So, just go with the hardware requirements for Vista.
- Robert Scoble
I've had Windows 7 running with just 128mb RAM in a VM - Excellent memory management.
- Nigel Kitchen
Tips for VMWare Fusion install http://friendfeed.com/e...
- michael silverton
Will Windows 7 fit on an 8GB netbook SSD?
- Ken Sheppardson
teleken: My MacBook is running it fine, no problems so far, although I've only really been playing around with settings and stuff, not installed any big software to try with it. I used VM Ware to do it, Parallels always gave me problems so i switched.
- Simon Wicks
Since I have both Vista & Ubuntu I think I can wait until all you early adopters work out the bugs. :D Seriously, I will wait until it is forced upon me when I buy another computer. That should be about 3 years from now.
- MarkCarras
REALLY tempted to run the beta on my laptop...a bit nervous to run any beta on my main rig but i think it wouldn't be so bad on my laptop....hmmmmmmm
- Live4Emma (L4S)
dual booting 7 with vista and 7 is running so much faster than vista. i'm happy that they cut down the min. req.
- Aaron Eaton
Stay away from AVG under Windows 7...triggers a heinous BSOD in tdx.sys...
- Mike Dove
I have been unable to download the Windows 7 image from Microsoft's site. I think they're a bit overloaded at the moment!
- John Bellone
John, have you tried since Saturday? My download worked like a champ Saturday afternoon. Also Brandon LeBlanc @ Microsoft is reporting that extra capacity was added and the download site has been working smoothly since Saturday AM. Also they have removed the 2.5 million limit on the number of beta testers -- as long as you get it before January 24, you can get a product key: http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs...
- Karim
Upgraded main computer? will MS support upgrade from Beta to RTM?
- Vaibhav
I installed Windows 7 64-bit and Chrome doesn't work at all. GRR.
- Phil G
I like the things they have done with respect to perf and UI changes, but this is what Vista should have been in the first place and I hope the upgrade from Vista to 7 is cheaper given the small number of differences between the two.
- Vaibhav
Whoops, someone figured out how to fix it: http://www.blogsdna.com/1900...
- Phil G
I got it here on my HP Mini 1000. Running good so far... not doing much though
- Bwana ☠
Phil, have you run the compatibility wizard on it?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Mike Dove I have 7 x64 with AVG installed. I don't have any problems with it.
- Vaibhav
Akiva - nope but that command line switch I just linked to did the trick.
- Phil G
@Vaibhav Perhaps you are getting lucky. I believe I was triggering it with the Outlook Email scanner portion of AVG, it may be that for normal operation it is fine.
- Mike Dove
Karim, What link did you use? MIcrosoft's site seems so slow.
- John Bellone
When attempting to download Windows 7 I click "Download Now" and nothing happens.
- John Bellone
Windows Weekly mentioned that there's quite a nasty MP3 truncating bug in the beta. If you value your music collections, it's probably best to avoid using WMP. Apparently there's a hot fix available.
- Paul Grav
@Paul it was the first thing I did after installing Win7 and Windows Media Player is working just fine with no damage to the mp3's that I have been able to tell yet
- Steven Hodson
@Paul same here. It works fine after hotfix
- Vaibhav
Awesome news.... I hope MS Windows 7 is a winner...that would be great!
- Susan Beebe
Yep, Windows 7 went pretty smooth so far; tackling my main home/Windows Media Center device now. +1 for sex life as well.
- Wade Dorrell
Whats the timeline before it expires on you? how painless was the upgrade?
- Stephen Smyth
Stephen: I think it's expires in August
- Vaibhav
I wrote about my initial install experience on The Inquisitr (http://www.inquisitr.com/14951...) with some follow Snapshot posts at WinExtra .. I'm liking this release of Windows
- Steven Hodson
Stephen, it expires in August which means a Beta 2 or RC1 in July (or a hotfix to extend the death date).
- Akiva Moskovitz
Been running Windows 7 for about a week. Loving it!
- David Andrzejewski
A friend just loaded Win7, she is upset that she can't find a way to make it Classic UI. It will be a long long time before I upgrade in that case.
- Tina Clarke
I've heard someone saying he was expecting something new in Windows 7 and literally got the same Vista OS, just a little faster. Don't you think Microsoft is re-selling the same system (only a bit improved) instead of giving us a new one?
- Nir Ben Yona
I think I'll be waiting for the BETA-tag to go away. I have tried vista and xp in beta and I regret it, so..this time I'll wait for the FULL and not beta version of Windows 7.
- Qbat
In case anyone cares, I threw Windows 7 on a late 2006 Compaq V6600 laptop with a Turion 1.8GHZ processor. This was one of those Vista capable machines. It was running XP (it never had Vista on it) and Windows 7 runs better than XP did. It has 2GB RAM. It's not a low powered laptop nor is the CPU/chipset that old but it's nice to see Windows 7 run so smoothly on it. Windows 7 installed...
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- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
John - if you are using the technet download link (the one with the serial number) , it will try to invoke a downloader app which only works in IE. If you find one of the many blogs with the direct download link, those should work with any browser.
- Phil G
Previously as a test, I upgrade installed the Windows 7 6801 beta on a Vista 32 machine that was heavily used (over 1400 installed applications) and was shocked to see it that not only did everything still work (Zonealarm, LogMeIn, MICROSOFT FINGERPRINT READER!), but it was MUCH snappier and startup and shutdown was significantly better. Not that I would ever recommend an upgrade...
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- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
Great to hear the upgrade worked. I hate when computers fail...
- Mitchell Tsai
Like it so far. Install was a bit difficult, but thats probably my fault (dual boot machine). Snappier than Vista, cleaner than Vista. Uses about 20% less RAM on my machine.
- Chad Albert
Dr Apps mine took hours too. I ran it while I slept.
- Robert Scoble
Just tried streaming h.264 video to a xbox as an extender. It works !!
- Olivier Castets
Fresh install took me < 30mins to login prompt. Upgrades take a lot longer.
- Chris Johnson
Clean install to Lenovo 510 went very smooth. Loading some apps shortly, but first impression is that it is noticeably snappy. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- George Rogers
John, I am using the regular Technet link: http://bit.ly/NJJb If you're seeing "Download Now" I assume you have gotten past the Live ID logon, profile update and gotten your Product key? The download uses an ActiveX control or Java applet download manager. Assuming you are on Windows :-) try your download in IE, and allow the ActiveX control to install.
- Karim
I have Windows 7 beta running on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4000+ with 2 Gig of Ram and it runs better then Vista Home Premium did. The only issue is I can not get my Netgear SC101 NAS box to recognize. Does anyone have any ideas?
- Rob Cairns
"windows", "winner" - is this an example of #15, say something outrageous ;-)
- Neil Saunders
Peter Simard: That's awesome! I'm sure you backed up first, but were quite relieved it all went well. :) Rob Cairns: I didn't even know the SC101 worked with Vista in the first place... I gave up on that thing so long ago. That is probably the only piece of hardware I've ever regretted buying. Though it sounds like you've had a good experience with it if you're still using it. I'd say wait a few days and see if anybody comes up with a solution. I took a cursory glance and didn't find any info...
- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
Robert - Using it since late yesterday. On two boxes, more stable than the original final releases of Windows NT and/or Windows 2000. More drivers supported up front than in Vista. Think MS learned something and the download limit drop will bring a lot of embedded techies. It's a win.
- Charlie Anzman
Thanks for being on the bleeding edge, just about to load the Windows 7 beta myself.. Good to know it upgraded properly for you.
- TechMama Beth Blecherman
I'm going to download it tonight Can't wait!
- Michael Fidler
It was a long upgrade for me... but overall I like it.
- Jason Womick
Been very happy with Windows 7 so far. Many subtle improvements add up to a much better product than Vista.
- Jim Bednarz
I am happy with Windows 7. Fresh install was effortless, but after the install and adding all possible board drivers, four "System Interrupts" entries remain yellow. At least the LAN connectors worked immediately.
- Robert Miller
I put win7 on a Toshiba Satellite a65 from 2003 and it works better than xp did
- Todd Loren Sinclair
Stephen : The upgrade was painless 90 minutes or so and a couple of reboots later. The only issue I had as previously mentioned was my Netgear Sc 101 issue - it did work on Vista. It expires in August
- Rob Cairns
Just arrived at SFO. Always great to be home. Can't wait to try out Windows 7.
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You're in for a treat.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Was good to see both of you. :)
- Lora Heiny
@scobleizer Win 7 is not too bad - big improvement, even as beta.
- Bankwatch
Glad you two are home safe and sound. Great to spend a few minutes with you and Maryam. Thx!
- Kevin C. Tofel
Glad you made it home safe.
- Adriana
Upgraded both my machines at home. No upgrade issues noticed. 7GB less on system partition too. Its great!
- Chris Johnson
Can someone say what the difference between 7 and Vista actually is?
- Sam Pullara
Sam: IMO, 7 is leaner and meaner. Some usability enhancements but the big story to me is that it runs better on lesser hardware than Vista. Better graphical memory management for windows and less overall bloat. That's the high level. Try it. I ran an early build on a netbook in October and was impressed.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Sam, that's like asking what the difference between 95 and 98 is. Like 98, Windows 7 is a refinement of the OS which proceeded it. It's smaller, it's faster, it's more hardware friendly. The bulk of the changes are quite subtle but are very effective such as the UI for connecting to wireless networks, the new Aero features of the taskbar (left-click and drag up on a taskbar entry for new options, for example), far better UAC handling and configuration, a more intuitive start menu, and so forth.
- Akiva Moskovitz
palm part 3 http://m.kyte.tv/ch...
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"If you know CMS, HTML, XML, you can design for this platform." - OK, did NOT see that coming.
- John Craft
"removable battery" . . . "cheesy virtual keyboard" . . . heh.
- John Craft
Man, this is just embarrassing for Palm. The Pre is such a BLATANT iPhone clone. Even the icons look the same. Kind of sad, really. It seems there's no more creativity at Palm...
- Josh Bancroft
See also http://blog.palm.com/ for liveblogging (and yes, we see it Robert - thanks).
- John Craft
Have we really gotten to the point where anything that's hand-sized with a full screen and any kind of icons is instantly dubbed an 'iPhone ripoff'? Sigh.
- Ken Sheppardson
It feels like they are trying to catch up but I need to be wowed to consider them again. They need to innovate!
- TheSleepyGeek
Josh, I disagree when you say embarrassing. I think this looks pretty damn good
- Ryan
Robert - Live video streaming of the announcement is not permitted.
- Palm_Inc
Palm made the same mistake Apple did with their first iPhone. No 3G.
- Jared Mehle
No 3G? GDGT says EVDO Rev. A
- Tristan McCann
Did palm tell engadget and gdgt.com to shut down their liveblog as well?
- Ken Sheppardson
Live blogging via text or photos is permitted, but live video streaming is not permitted
- Palm_Inc
Palm_inc: Can we know why that is?
- TheSleepyGeek
Palm_inc: with all due respect, that makes no sense these days. You should've streamed this yourselves. Very 2007ish.
- Ken Sheppardson
Palm_inc: Why on earth not? Don't you want the free advertising?
- Deborah Fitchett
Watch the entire Palm Pre Announcement at http://twurl.nl/63dl1t
- Palm_Inc
Palm_Inc: Put it up in something people actually use. Quicktime is dead.
- Chris Johnson
Ha Ha my World's 1st Vista PC Sold video on youtube has been pulled because of music "what a wonderful world" from the official campaign :)
Booooooo
- Chris Johnson
Windows 7: 2009 or 2010? - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
2009 christmas
- Ernie Oporto
i'm guessing one of Lessons Learned from vista is don't miss the holiday season.
- Karim
Already on it on all machines. It's great. Ship it!
- Chris Johnson
Richard Branson says economy is "f****d" - Times Online - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
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Well, I guess he'd know.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Business leaders like this have a responsibility to try to inspire others. Now, if I worked for any of his Virgin enterprises, was an investor in any of his companies, or a third-party affiliate or distributor, I wouldn't feel any better about the state of the economy. I am always one to appreciate the straight shooter, but when it comes to the state of the economy, can you please not sound like Chicken Little? I: want to have some confidence.
- Pete Delucchi
I suppose he could lie and say everything is peachy. But hes not an idiot.
- Chris Johnson
He could say everything's fine and then be sent to jail for misleading his investors.
- Morgan
@eldiablo then you need another globe - this one is in crisis atm
- A.T.
Robert Scoble Fact: Robert Scoble is so tough that Chuck Norris is scared of him
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One time Robert Scoble interviewed the CEO of a startup before the CEO thought up the idea!
- Tad
Robert Scoble's tears cure recessions.
- Tad
Robert Scoble showed Al Gore how to invent the internet
- Outsanity
Tad: hahahaha!
- Robert Scoble
"To Scoblize" means "to completely obliterate from the space/time continuum".
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Robert Scoble once threw a TCP/IP packet through a dog.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Robert Scoble showed Superman that reverse-time-by-moving-the-earth-backwards trick. With his iPhone.
- Steven Perez
Robert Scoble could interview a CEO so fast you'd have already seen it before he started.
- Tad
Is there a robertscoblefacts.com? hehe
- Randy
Before Robert Scoble showed up, it was just called "Company"
- Tad
oh! there is! It says "watch this space"
- Randy
Robert Scoble's ego is so big it's in use at the Massive Hadron Super Collider to help discover new particles.
- Tad
Robert's so prolific, there are actually 12 Milans!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
When Robert Scoble was born, he already had a camera in his hand and interviewed the doctor
- Outsanity
LOL @ Tad's first comment
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Scoble can touch MC Hammer
- Patrick Jordan
Robert Scoble's first word as a baby was "Technology".
- Randy
When the boogeyman goes to bed at night, he checks to see if Robert Scoble is hiding in his closet waiting to interview him.
- Tad
Robert Scoble taught Steve Jobs everything he knew.
- imabonehead
Robert Scoble doesn't pray... he has @god DM him instead.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
If you look into the Singularity, you'll see Robert Scoble winking back at you.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Social media is a mispelling of the original Scoble media.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
If this were true I wouldn't have had to change Milan's diaper right now.
- Robert Scoble
Robert Scoble spends 28 hours a day on Friendfeed
- Tyler (Chacha)
When Robert Scoble walks in a room, women fight to have his kids
- Outsanity
The Robert Scobles you see at the malls in all the Apple Stores are really just Robert Scobles' helpers.
- Tad
Robert Scoble taught Jim & Tammy Fae how to evangelize.
- Pete Delucchi
The Messiah won't return until Robert Scoble clears a day in his calendar for the event.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Robert has the only iPhone that is completely open, yet blessed by Steve Jobs
- Tyler (Chacha)
Robert Scoble's laugh was used to conclusively prove the Doppler effect.
- Kamath (नमः)
If Scoble wasn't an egotistical baaahhhhssssttttaaaaaarrrrrdddddd he would have hidden this item already!
- Robert Scoble
When Jack Bauer starts running out of time, Robert Scoble just manufactures more.
- Akiva Moskovitz
OMG, we need a website or a book deal, lol
- Outsanity
That time when the tidal wave stopped dead in its tracks before it hit London? Scoble. Alex, that is. Robert was busy putting the sun back into orbit.
- Steven Perez
Robert Scoble can like an entry twice
- Tyler (Chacha)
Scooble karate chopped the Large Hadron Collider and broke the universe.
- Will Higgins™
Robert Scoble was the one who deemed Pluto wasn't a planet
- Outsanity
Robert Scoble can see entries of people who have blocked him
- Tyler (Chacha)
When someone phishes Robert Scoble's kid, he alone is allowed to call on Al Gore to stop the internet for a bit and sort things out.
- Pete Delucchi
Robert Scoble reads all of our emails and tweets.
- imabonehead
The fact that I am following everyone on this item both amuses me and worries me. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Scoble's workout consists of bench pressing the twitter Fail Whale and eating Startups for breakfast.
- Will Higgins™
Until a few months ago, there actually wasn't an Alex Scoble. Robert decided he wanted a brother, and Alex sprang from the firmament. Robert Scoble should decide he has a sister named MiniMage ;).
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Robert Scoble could make Chacha.com go away so Chacha102 could get his Twitter name back. But he chooses not too
- Tyler (Chacha)
If Robert Scoble had a dollar for every time someone said "Robert Scoble", Oprah would be coming to him for a loan
- Outsanity
If Robert Scoble had a dollar for everyone who said Robert Scoble, he would have earned 38 dollars from this thread alone... wait .. now 40.
- Tyler (Chacha)
The real problem in the beef industry that no one wants you to know: cows are committing suicide in hopes of being Robert Scoble's lunch.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Robert Scoble banishes to Guantanamo all web 2.0 programmers that do not reserve him the username Scobleizer.
- Pete Delucchi
If Robert Scoble earns a penny for every person he interviewed, the Big 3 Auto would be asking him for bailout money rather than the government.
- imabonehead
Robert Scoble is actually from the future and forgot to tell us about Web 30.0
- Outsanity
When Robert Scoble prays, Robert Scoble answers.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Last person to outbeat Scoble in a conversational argument was Santa Claus. Too bad he doesn't exist.
- Franco Piccolo
Robert once tweeted a mans soul.
- Chris Johnson
While we are still in Web 2.0, Web 3.0 was already obsolete to Robert Scoble.
- Randy
Is that a star I see on the horizon. Break out the camels.
- Bankwatch
In 2016 we will witness ScobleWorld
- Outsanity
Every time Robert Scoble tweets an angel gets his wings.
- invariant - farewell FF
Robert Scoble is the only man on the internet who don't have a block button
- Outsanity
Robert went to the crossroads and devil sold its soul to him
- Rodfather
Scoble doesn't google for information, he Scobles for it.
- Franco Piccolo
Scoble once wrestled a bear and video blogged about it ... at the same time.
- Brandon Mendelson
All of Scoble's FriendFeed entries are automatically Best of the Day
- Jeremy Toeman
Robert Scoble is sooooo twisted he changed the acronym for SEO; it doesn't stand for..., oh yes you know...it stands for Scoble Engine Optimization
- sofarsoShawn
Robert Scoble FACT. He is such a demon of rebellion, it's @scobelizer to you!
- sofarsoShawn
I am getting a demo of something that will addict me much more than friendfeed in 2009. This is NOT good.
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I was waiting for something like that to come along. Something to replace FriendFeed for you?
- Mark Trapp
You tease.
- Steve Isaacs
Care to share what that might be?
- Michael Krigsman
Whatever it is must be seriously good.
- Gordon Saunders
What is that???
- Palak Mathur
I can't talk for a few weeks. But you will be addicted. I guarantee that.
- Robert Scoble
Wake me up when you're not embargoed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
And it doesn't replace twitter or friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
What is it? Give us the scoop
- streetforce1
Do tell. Wow, it's not even out yet and I'm getting addicted to it. You're right!
- Melik Yuksel
Interesting, no hints even
- Andrew Windham
tease
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
@Robert - will it do my laundry for me? AND fold it?
- Andy Sternberg
Uh oh. Do we need another intervention?!
- Daynah
By the way @god is in charge of the beta invites. So, you better follow God. Also MC Hammer is standing with me right now. He has a few invites to hand out soon too. @mchammer (say hi).
- Robert Scoble
Oy. As long as the addiction starts in mid-Feb, I'm game.
- Tamar Weinberg
I already know I'm not going to like it
- Bwana ☠
Spill it Scoble!
- Mike Flynn
Not the Hair-Ron?
- Christopher Harley
Hammer gave you crack?
- Andrew Smith
Is it bigger than a breadbox? Bigger than a Subaru?
- Rob Schieber
Mike: @god said I would go to hell if I broke embargo. He also said that he new @techcrunch couldn't handle the temptation.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not religious, but I grew up in a Baptist household and am still hung up enough that I can't follow @god.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Don't tease us Scoble. Spill the beans! :)
- Bryan Lee
When is the video coming so we can all check it? can you tell who ever it is to make sure it works nice with Twitter and that they put together a few videos on 'how to' use it so we can pick it up without thinking. (OK, maybe i'm being pushy)
- frank barry
Uhhh ohhhh. Sounds disruptive.
- Eric Florenzano
Robert, please be so kind to notify us (or at least point it out) when it does become public. I would like to see if it lives up to what you say it is.
- Michael Forian
Did this one make you cry? :)
- Chris Johnson
Gist?
- B2B Specialist
So do you really think it will be an improvement upon friendfeed? or just different?
- lucinda
Not fair Robert! This is what leads to an "unfollowing" ;) Gemini's do not deal well with suspense!
- Glen Meyburgh
Quick ... does anyone know any reverse psychology?
- Richard Filing
Well, if you move to it, I'll have to start tracking it, damn, one more service.
- Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)
Michael: yeah, of course I'll let you know when it's out. Chris, no, this one didn't make me cry. I feel more like a crack addict who just got shown a new drug. I can't resist.
- Robert Scoble
The gist? I don't want to anger @god -- he might not let me onto the beta. So far there are 50 people on it, and the addiction scales are off the charts.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Nothing wrong with tech crack :) Looking forward to hearing what it is.
- Chris Johnson
Is that even possible, Scoble? How much room do you have for addictions?
- Logan Leger
"You can't touch this....until...???"
- Dennis Goedegebuure
Per MForian, maybe create a hashtag for this one so we know when it's real and can peg it back to this post. There's an old riddle: "how do you keep a moron in suspence for 24-hours?" answer: "tell you tomorrow."
- mark silva
Don't tell me its about World Wide Telescope again. After your hype (you said you were in tears), eventually it turned out to be a duh moment for me. http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Puneet Thapliyal
Puneet: no, this is far more real-time-web and addicting than anything Microsoft could do.
- Robert Scoble
damn Robert! NOW am really intrigued. Pray tell..
- Asfaq
It's BaconFeed.
- Mitch Wagner
Mitch: you have no idea how close you are. Mona will be one of the first addicts. So will Louis. My brother will probably call it lame.
- Robert Scoble
..what everyone wants to know is...did it make you cry? haha...
- Lee Hsieh
Sounds like a cult - just curious - is this the same guy Loren talked to?
- Jesse Stay
So it's addictive, doesn't replace twitter nor friendfeed, is it another social status publishing platform?
- Rida Al Barazi
lay of the smack ;)
- sofarsoShawn
Jesse: @god says that @1938media is not trustworthy but I agree that this new thing could be a cult (hey, is friendfeed a cult?). Rida: um, no.
- Robert Scoble
It's it just more addictive, or is it more useful as well? It's important to realize that there's a difference.
- Daniel Miessler
friendfeed is the begging to something very exciting and new. Real-time web.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Daniel: hmmm, is Twitter or friendfeed useful? If you answer yes then you'll find this useful too.
- Robert Scoble
Steve: you mean IRC.. :p
- Asfaq
asfaq: IRC died a while ago(IM took over) The problem with IRC was it had a very simplistic and crude form of identity. Now way to track or follow. :)
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Will this help business or something that's fun only? How can I get on the list to get a beta invite? I can't imagine something being better than FriendFeed - is that really possible??
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I think the line between fun and Business is shrinking. We already see this with corporations using twitter internally.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Is it http://socialthing.com ?
- Gerardo Curiel
Gerardo: no. Come on, be serious. Jannifer: does Twitter help business? Does friendfeed? Does facebook?
- Robert Scoble
Scoble's found the stealth startup that's finally perfected teledildonics and is getting a demo!?!?
- Dossy Shiobara
Is it dancejam.com which mchammer is working on?
- Franz Sittampalam
from Nambu
I hope it's not another PeopleBrowsr
- Bwana ☠
I agree with Mitch. It's BaconFeed. Push a button on the screen, and bacon comes out the DVD drive. I can't wait! :D
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Please don't bring it up if you can't talk about it. Not cool.
- rowlikeagirl
This really isn't good. I already spend more time than should be allotted on FriendFeed. =[
- deepikaur
Can't wait to hear about it, Robert. I love shiny-shinies - a bit of a beta testing addict here :)
- Renee Hendricks
Does this mean you'll abandon the teat of the FF suckle, and move onto something more personal?
- Mike Shields
Suspense is killing me...
- Jordi Soler
@god has protected his twitter updates !! pls teach him to play this game !! addiction is killing me !! ,,, need a beta invite dosis, lol !
- Rocky
You're right. This is soooo cool. They didn't swear ME to secrecy. Is it still under wraps and they forgot to tell me?
- Internet Strategist
I just sold an iPhone. Do I get a commission. How? Google and Shazam apps. Developers!!!!
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What? did you just pawn off your iPhone in NYC Robert?? Hahahaaaha!! Cheers!
- Susan Beebe
No, we are in El Granada, CA. Maryam's friend needs a new cell phone and now is going to buy an iphone
- Robert Scoble
No, you should get a swift kick in the privates for selling an Apple product.
- Alex Scoble
Hahaha I thought you said you where in "times square" ooops...wrong city... I thought you were at home. iPhone is amazing...so glad you persuaded me to get one!! NO other phone even compares...seriously, this product sells itself!!
- Susan Beebe
I'd pay to see that, Alex ;) !!
- James D Kirk
If said owner gets their groove on friendfeed, you may have a new person of interest to follow, and therein lies thy reward :)
- Micah Wittman
Susan: we are near @hardaway's house in El Granada. Google's voice searchis freaking cool.
- Robert Scoble
As much as I'd like a phone with a real browser, I'll be damned before I ever pay the Apple tax or use a phone without a QWERTY keyboard...Blackberry for life!
- Alex Scoble
Robert Google voice search is hawt! One of my all time *fav* apps. Show them Google maps - Streetview ...show them their own house...that always freaks people out! :D
- Susan Beebe
Alex, have you seen the T-Mobile's G1 yet? :)
- imabonehead
Alex - if you want a REAL browser and a qwerty then you need a G1, :P
- Tad
Alex - I was a hardcore crackberry addict with my Curve, etc. but dude the iPhone totally owns the BB platform now... no joke. I can type FASTER on the iPhone than the BB... no sh*t! Plus that damn little screen is a freakin joke... Robert is right...he should kick YOU in the balls! hehehe LOL :)
- Susan Beebe
No...I haven't...unfortunately they are only on T-Mobile. Then again I'm not particularly authoritative on the subject of phones...I don't even own one...my BB is from work.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: why do you need a keyboard? Oh yeah, you don't have voice search!
- Robert Scoble
unlocked g1 is ~$400
- Peter Warnock
Alex, me too! I've got to touch and feel the keyboard. I can use it without looking at it; with iPhone no chance. Finally a Blackberry user. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
How ironic that BB got rid of the keyboard
- Peter Warnock
Yeah, you can bet that I won't be getting a Storm anytime soon, Peter.
- Alex Scoble
Peter, not on Bold, just on Storm. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
I got a BB Storm tonight. Wanted an iPhone but was edged out by my older brother who is actually running our shop. After watching Ed Dale run a multi-million dollar business, and, his house, from his iPhone, while traveling from Melbourne to San Fran, I was convinced. First peek into this BB tonight; too complicated, non intuitive, for what it can do. Web access is painful.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Bold is pretty neat. Storm, didn't like the feel of it.
- Moushumi Kabir
i am an iphone convert. onscreen keyboard is amazing if you just trust it. the faster i type the better it is. acuracy is not really needed (within reason of course). i didnt believe it until i tried it.
- Chris Johnson
Didn't you say you were logging out for the evening? Welcome back! :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: never believe an addict!
- Robert Scoble
My New Year's resolution is to buy an iPhone when my contract with T-Mobile is up
- LA Snark
Robert, I never believed it when I saw it, just like no one believed me when I quit Twitter back in July. :-)
- Jesse Stay
I sold mine on eBay for 525.
- "Joey"
Yeah - I actually made money on my first iPhone - one more reason I buy Apple
- Jesse Stay
OpenID Needs to Start Getting Real - http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs...
Nicholas James, Philip Ryan Johnson, Andre P. Siregar and 14 other people liked this
I hate to see all these sites jumping on Facebook connect. Gives facebook too much power to my taste.
- Tom Ribbens
@Tom Totally agree, but unfortunately it has a lot of clout thanks to its userbase.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
what I don't get is why Microsoft Passport/LiveID was evil and nobody wanted to use it, while Facebook connect is all of a sudden interesting for everybody....
- Daniele Muscetta
Microsoft was ahead of its time with Passport/Live ID, and also, everyone hates a winner. If you ask me, Live ID is better than Facebook Connect, though, because Microsoft's value isn't in accumulating all your life's data the way that Facebook's is.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
exactly. I agree 100% with what you just wrote :-) but LiveID auth license does not make it easy to use it the way facebook does, tho.
- Daniele Muscetta
Apparently Live ID does OpenID now, though, which if more users and developers knew about, might make integrating Live ID a little less annoying, legally.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Chris Charabaruk, yes it does and that should mean 700million or so people who already have an OpenID. Not a bad number :)
- Chris Johnson
Thing is, while so many people have an OpenID (or several OpenIDs) how many of them know about it? How many know how to use it, and are comfortable with it? I'd guess perhaps 1-3%, off the top of my head, know enough about OpenID to make use of it. Now, how many Facebook users would know what do do if they saw the FB icon and a link saying "log in with Facebook" when they visit a site? You say anything less than 75% I'll laugh my ass off.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
exactly. Facebook is easy to understand for consumers. And so Passport/LiveID has been for a while. On the opposite, OpenID is cumbersome to use and too "geeky" that I don't even get it completely - I can imagine what the average user would do with it...
- Daniele Muscetta
Chris, how many people with accounts on Google, or Yahoo, or Facebook, or Microsoft Live would fail to recognize the "login using" OpenID button Clickpass provides? Example at https://ourdoings.com/person...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Seeing what clicking on the bar does, I have the feeling that people will be more likely to use one of the other login options Clickpass provides, rather than OpenID. While OpenID tops the dropdown list from the circle button, the page you can get from clicking puts prominence on everything BUT OpenID. As it is, it allows, but does not encourage, the use or comprehension of OpenID.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Bob Herbert - Add Up the Damage - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
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"When Mr. Bush officially takes his leave in three weeks (in reality, he checked out long ago), most Americans will be content to sigh good riddance. I disagree. I don’t think he should be allowed to slip quietly out of town. There should be a great hue and cry — a loud, collective angry howl, demonstrations with signs and bullhorns and fiery speeches — over the damage he’s done to this country."
- Sean McBride
from Bookmarklet
The worst, the most incompetent and the most destructive presidency in American history by far, yes. But Bob Herbert needs to discuss the central role of "liberals" (neoliberals, neoconservatives) at The New York Times (and other mainstream media outlets) in enabling this disaster. Bush was their slave, not their master.
- Sean McBride
One great thing Bush has done has been to fund/instigate more national parks than almost any other president. That surprised me. I dont like the guy or agree with most of what else he has done however :) Goodness knows how long it will take to repair the damage he has caused.
- Chris Johnson
"This is the man who gave us the war in Iraq and Guantánamo and torture and rendition; who turned the Clinton economy and the budget surplus into fool’s gold; who dithered while New Orleans drowned; who trampled our civil liberties at home and ruined our reputation abroad; who let Dick Cheney run hog wild and thought Brownie was doing a heckuva job. The Bush administration specialized...
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- Sean McBride
"He then set the blaze that has continued to rage for nearly six years, consuming more than 4,000 American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. (A car bomb over the weekend killed two dozen more Iraqis, many of them religious pilgrims.) The financial cost to the U.S. will eventually reach $3 trillion or more, according to the Nobel laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz."
- Sean McBride
and also there should be a prosecution somewhere.
- ~C4Chaos
"The president would give the wealthy and the powerful virtually everything they wanted. He would throw sand into the regulatory apparatus and help foster the most extreme income disparities since the years leading up to the Great Depression. Once again he was lighting a fire. This time the flames would engulf the economy and, as with Iraq, bring catastrophe."
- Sean McBride
In an Italian frame of mind: Saranno puniti a seconda della gravità dei loro delitti. [They will be punished according to the seriousness of their crimes.]
- Sean McBride
3 Easy Ways to Track Holiday Flights - http://digg.com/travel_...
"I prefer www.flightaware.com ... more geeky stuff on the maps and airports."
- Chris Johnson
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