0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren, Photophobe
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Her Lindsay-ness
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren, Photophobe
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Jason Huebel
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren, Photophobe
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren, Photophobe
But no one makes love like Neil Patrick Harris is dancing? FAIL!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
My brother in law in the Philippines can't be dissuaded from naming his son Elmo. I hope that unborn boy is ready to be tormented for the rest of his life. Why do parents do that to their kids?
- Bradley Farless
You know, in my heart I hope that people like NPH who seem just so damn awesome on the screen are just as cool in real life. Anyone met the fellow in person?
- Adam Lasnik
I'm sure he's a decent guy. Never met him, though.
- Josh Haley
But he sure can dance, just look at him go!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Love him when he's unicorn watching.
- Gabrielle V
Okay, I swear I am not just pimpin' good swing music, but I was looking at this GIF and listening to this song - http://lala.com/zPe9 ("Billie's Bounce" performed live by Buddy Rich) - and it matches! :o
- Adam Lasnik
Gross. I just unliked to be contrary. Yet another reason why I pulled back from FriendFeed. And why getting swallowed up by Facebook, the great leveler, couldn't make more sense.
- Rick Powell
That's right, all you horrible time-wasters you! Get back to talking about kernels and APIs! Have you no Protestant work-ethic? /sarcasm
- Neal Jansons
ben hep Aziz'de katılır diyordum bu oluşuma,.. Eren - Deniz - Aziz'in başharflerinden EDA diye şeyederdiniz (ne yaptığımı farkettiniz di mi harf oyunuyla,..)
- Ozan Caglargil
haha teşekkürler herkese. Ozan ne ara isim düşündün abi :) bak senin de kalbin san franciscoda ben biliyorum, ordan bunları düşünüyosun :D
- D. Eda Goze
Thx for liking, but I simply MUST insist that you also weigh in! I want to get some good Google Voice info out of your comments... here, on the Current.com page, Facebook, whatever.
- Sarah Lane
What, you gonna deny a poor little woman with a brain tumor? I think not. ;)
- Sarah Lane
Also! My Google Voice number is in this segment for all to admire. And so's my cell phone number, but I tried pretty hard to blur that one out. :)
- Sarah Lane
I have some good stuff, will post tomorrow during the living hours.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
from iPhone
Sorry, Sarah - can't be monitoring FF *all* the time... :) I honestly haven't used Google Voice much for some of the same reasons you mentioned. For some reason my number is firmly stuck in my head, but I haven't given it out to many folks (more out of laziness than anything, since my friends all have my cell number already). Haven't run into the issue with voicemail (even though I have...
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- Thomas
Sarah - you're right - it pretty much sucks if you don't give out your Google Voice number. The lack of Visual Voicemail integration is also a big let-down. I've experimented with it by distributing my GV number to Facebook contacts who I don't want stalking me (I made a group for them). I've found that the inbound calling, and SMS forwarding is really cool and works flawlessly. Outbound calling and voicemails requires a visit to the GV mobile page (which I keep open in Safari on my iPhone).
- Ankush Narula
Thinking about it some more, I can see a use where you give the GV number to all your creditors and potential telemarketers. I use my land line for that now, but eventually I want to get rid of that. Another use - if you want a number in a different area code. As someone who wants to eventually sell a screenplay, it might behoove me at some point to get a number in the 310 area code to...
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- Thomas
I love Sarah because she hasn't abandoned FriendFeed like the rest of the geeks. Keep using it Sarah! I'm even more a follower now than ever.
- Jesse Stay
I agree that giving it to people who I really don't want to have my number is nice. If you don't really want to hear from them, just let it go to voice mail. And if you do, no worries, you can add them to your friend group. Also if you're in some networking environment, you really don't have to worry about who exactly you give your number out to. I did try to tie it to my Skype account but it did not like that at all.
- Jerry Perez
I like GV's send to VM between certain times. So when I sleep I don't have to hear a phone ring unless so are so important to me I allow your call to come through. This way I can sleep but still receive potentially emergency phone calls. Also, I have used one is a home phone replacement so if people call it, it will ring my phones, my gf, and the kids. And I can see other great...
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- Philip Griego
Google Voice works really well *if* you have a good application to deal with the Voicemails. I installed GV Mobile on my (jailbroken) iPhone. Since they recently added the "use GV as voicemail" feature, I find that I'm using it a lot more than before. The basic problem with GV is that it's not a voicemail replacement, as such (though it has that sort of functionality now). It works best...
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- Otto
I'm using Google Voice and like it. It's still better than the crappy voicemail from the cable company or cell phone company. I don't have any app to run it on my phone and don't need one. I voice dial to get the messages. Works great.
- Dave Friedel
I use GV as the voice mail for my Podcast. Works great for that. Also use it for all of my phones, ...well, that is mmm, okay. I really wish it was a bit more flexible.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Hate the lack of support to visual voicemail and that I have to go to Google Voice's page to make a call if I want my number to show on outbound calls. LOVE the fact that I can give my GV # to potential employers so they don't have to worry about reaching a number I'm not at.
- ChiliMac
If I could get Google voice to just let voicemails go to my IPhone I'd be happy.
- ChiliMac
google voice just seems redundant. unless you give up your cell phone (which nobody will do) its just another way to do the same thing with (as you said) one more phone / log in / password / gadget. It wont last. Friend feed, Skype, and Twitter are NEW ways to communicate. I just got rid of my TV to watch everything online (Hule, Twit.tv...etc.) This was a way to get rid of a redundancy. Creating consolidation tech is where its at, not new ways to do old things, I think it will fade away. Gr8 vid.
- echostreamer
The real feature for GV is small business. So many telcos have SMBs over a barrel with terrible features. These people can't afford a PBX with forward and follow features. They could hook up a GV number, including their established line, and allow for forwards to any number, without the need to put 5 different numbers on their business cards. This is really a killer feature, and visual voicemail won't matter to those people. (also posted to current)
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm probably a minority here, but since I have an Android phone I'll chime in: GV works like a charm (including masking my number on outbound calls/sms) using the GV app for my phone.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
My use case is probably different then most. I use GV almost exclusively as a web based PBX. Very rarely do I use it on a cell phone unless the number is being forwarded there. I also use the number experimentally with widgets or by posting on developmental sites to track conversions that take the route of inbound phone traffic as opposed to an online sale. I also like the fact that messages are recorded online so I can forward them as needed.
- Eric Logan
Favorite Google Voice feature: voicemail transcription sent to my cell via SMS and/or email.
- Shea
from BuddyFeed
Wait, so, let me get this straight. I'm given the ability to make lists on Twitter but I'm not supposed to tweet about it yet? You want me to keep a secret? Srsly, Twitter, you don't know me very well.
It didn't tell you to not Tweet about it? WTF TWITTER. I AM NOT A BIGMOU--- oh...uh...oops.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I got it and immediately tweeted about it. now it's gone. I did not see anything about being hush hush.
- Mike Nencetti
There was a note at the top of my screen when I signed in all like "Congrats! You are a Chosen One!" and then it said something about "but don't tweet about it". Srsly. I wish I could make it come back so I could make a screen cap of it.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
" New! Lists. A great way to organize the people you follow and discover new and interesting accounts. (BETA) Lists are timelines you build yourself, consisting of friends, family, co-workers, sports teams, you name it. You're part of a small group receiving this feature, so don't tweet about it yet!"
- Anika
That "you're part of a small group" would have worked better with me if everyone I know hadn't already mentioned that they had lists.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
Anika, you are my new hero. :D And neff, I fully agree. I saw that and was confused. I think Twitter has redefined "small" to fit their needs.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
It was just a baby. No real threat, but I suspect we'll be seeing a few with the coming rains.
- Steven Perez
I shall call him squishy and he shall be mine, and he shall be my squishy.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Well, the venom the babies carry is actually more potent but I suppose they'd have a harder time launching as far.
- Spidra Webster
Besides, it was too busy slithering away madly to be any threat. I'm more worried about the larger varieties that hide in the brush.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I am considering getting him an enormous comfy dogbed. (Also in hopes that I can relearn to sleep without him sleeping behind my knees). And a new Galileo bone, some cookies, and maybe a new nobblywobbly toy.
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
new nobblywobbly toy?? would he sleep in the dogbed?
- Sir Shuping
the Nobblywobbly is something I stuff his bones in while he's in his crate - he LOVES them: http://www.amazon.com/Multipe... - and I'm not sure if I can get him to sleep in the dogbed, but I'd like to try
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
I'm putting Otto in charge of my Christmas. I'm not ready much either. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
"According to last week's stats: "Comments: 232 this week, 21441 all time and Likes: 270 this week, 18029 all time" If 232 comments and 270 likes don't count as activity, what does?"
- Louis Gray
I tried out Cliqset. A replacement for FriendFeed? Nope. Definitely not. Although they have a lot of the same service imports that FriendFeed has, their interface leaves a LOT to be desired.
- Jason Huebel
What happened to FriendFeed vs. Facebook?
- Jesse Stay
Mozilla Labs has debuted a new web-based tool for integrating all your online communications — such as e-mail, Twitter, Skype and Facebook — into a single browser window.
- polou/indigo_bow
from Bookmarklet
"WPtouch automatically transforms your WordPress blog into a web-application experience when viewed from an iPhone, iPod touch or Android touch mobile device. It comes complete with all the standard WordPress blog features: search, login, categories, tags, archives, photos & more. WPtouch also offers many customization features through a beautifully designed WordPress admin panel."
- Susan Beebe
from Bookmarklet
I use it. I like it. Just wish there was an easier way to change the calendar icons and allow for thumbnails. Of course, that would immediately reduce the loading speed…
- Jason Theodor
What "plugin"? The upgrading is built into WordPress, it's not a plugin.
- Otto
Initially I had problems with mine upgrading. I traced that to the way I had proftpd configured on my server (chrooted). So the workaround is to turn off the chroot, run the upgrade and turn chroot back on. I guess there could be a tidier way.
- Nick B.
Nick: The upgrader only uses FTP when it has to. If you run suPHP on the webserver instead of regular PHP, then it doesn't have to do that, it can upgrade itself in "direct" mode.
- Otto
I don't care if it's a gift from Santa. Either way it doesn't work.
- Fleagle
no problems with this upgrade for my two blogs Youpi!
- bellegarde-webb
It upgraded successfully. It's suppose to protect against any attacks, so we shall see.
- Shevonne
Haven't had any issues with the upgrade either.
- Spencer
Does anyone have the fantastico automatic upgrade from their provider? If so, do you use it, and have you had any issues?
- Fleagle
@Fleagle I dont understand. The WP automatic upgrade tool?
- Shevonne
Fleagle, I use it on 4 of my sites. The only problem I have is that fantastico isn't current enough. It seems to take up to 1 - 3 weeks for it get current. It's much easier than the WP Automatic Updater and doesn't take nearly as long.
- Anika
I'm going to have to check it out. I've only been using the WP one.
- Shevonne
@Anika, I have that problem, too. And for the other responses. I've had issues with the WP automatic updater plugin. It never works. Last time I used it, I ended up having to re-install it. Thankfully my site was backed up.
- Fleagle
The built-in automatic upgrader tends to work better on hosts that are using mod_suphp and/or php 5 installations. Works perfectly on GoDaddy hosting accounts.
- Otto
Yes, do you had problems ? I am always afraid of the upgrades !
- bellegarde-webb
hm, interesting, AJCann, my comment would be: why be prescriptive (only) - students are inventive, let us see what else THEY might think up for everyone's science-related benefit, let students teach us about what they like doing on the web and where - and build these possibly upcoming habits into OUR research processes :-)
- Claudia Koltzenburg
While I tend to agree in principle, these are first year undergraduates Claudia, and they need quite a lot of guidance at this stage of their careers, otherwise the majority would flounder.
- AJCann
One of the nice things is that it is open ended. Prescriptive provides them a way in but there is plenty of opportunity to take it further if the student finds it useful and engaging
- Cameron Neylon
good points, thanks, and, yes, well, I am not officially teaching ;-) so your experience is certainly based on larger numbers of students. In running our OA journal, we do continuous wiki-based co-training, so I am mostly learning, really, from my Russian student assistants - and that is fascinating, hence my observation :-)
- Claudia Koltzenburg
AJ - looks like a good plan. So far I have not made the FF assignments in my class mandatory (worth no more than 2% of final grade) but I do that because I have about 200 students. With smaller classes it certainly could work. BTW - I don't even teach RSS anymore :)
- Jean-Claude Bradley
I have 200 students :-) I wonder about RSS, FF is a sort of halfway-house replacement to a full strength RSS reader like Google Reader.
- AJCann
ouch - that is a lot - I look forward to seeing ways you found to be effective for managing. I've only got 30 with mandatory wiki projects and it is bit tough to keep up.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
I found this thread through the Friendfeed on Twitter group. I'm really excited to connect to all of you!
- Holly Rae, FFer
I ran Friendfeed past one of our students last night. They were quite enthusiastic, in fact a bit worried about getting addicted to "Facebook for science" and wondered if they'd be able to get any "work" done.
- AJCann
That's great AJ - are you using a group or a room for your students? - it would be cool for my students to interact with yours on FF - I'll mention it at my class tomorrow.- I've told them in an informal way to pay attention to this room http://friendfeed.com/cheminfo - we could also set up a joint room where our students can learn from each other how make the best use of FF for their research projects
- Jean-Claude Bradley
Sadly, our course started 4 weeks ago and we went with Google Reader and delicious rather than FriendFeed for this year. I now have to wait a whole year until I can roll this out. How I wish I could turn the clock back 4 weeks!
- AJCann
Private rooms can be useful for some purposes, e.g. administration, data archiving.
- AJCann
yeah there are uses, they are just rare. for example, it is possible to import private rss feeds (such as facebook notifications) and manually screen them
- Mike Chelen
I am willing to acknowledge private rooms might have some applications - sometimes it just feels good to be categorical :)
- Jean-Claude Bradley
AJ -- I've done something similar to this, but using a reader, academic bookmarking system, and class blog -- students (undergrads, but 4th in this case) got to choose reader and bookmarking system. None would use Delicious b/c it wasn't sufficiently "academic" looking, nor does it have the citation tools they crave. But we communicated through the class blog, which was not so bad b/c...
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- Mickey Schafer
I'm more than happy for you to try out FriendFeed - please blog the result! :-) Although I'm generally in favour of a personal learning environment consisting of a distributed toolset, there's no doubt that this is difficult for students used to being force-fed institutional systems such as VLEs to get their heads around. In this regard, something of a Swiss Army knife like FriendFeed is attractive, as long as it doesn't turn into a cul de sac which doesn't lead anywhere.
- AJCann
Thanks, so much! My intention is to get a blog started in January, maybe February 2010. Blogging is a much scarier prospect than FF has been...
- Mickey Schafer
I never ceased to be amazed by how so much is done by so few. Everyone in that picture rocks. I'll even give Camilla a wee fistbump.
- CAJ, somewhere else