Yes indeed, particularly since Dell didn't "release" anything, per se. A Dell employee did some "tinkering" as he puts it, and has made his USB image available.
- Ken Sheppardson
It looks like in the wifi chipset space, Atheros has been more open-source friendly than Broadcom. So the change with Dell Mini 10V might be to add some support for a Broadcom chipset. This 2008 article at http://blogs.computerworld.com/new_lin... gives some background on Linux & Atheros vs. Broadcom, plus the fact that Dell has contributed Broadcom drivers for Linux in the past.
- Matt Cutts
Really bugs me when people say 'literally' and mean 'figuratively'. Republican strategist Todd Harris on MSNBC just now: "The thing Palin needs to do is literally reach through the TV and grab those working Americans..." Uhh, isn't that setting the bar a bit high, Todd?
That's like when people say theory instead of hypothesis. If it sounds better, then it naturally makes sense :-P
- Nick Humphries
haha, and when people use 'nonplussed' for 'nonchalant'.or 'decimate' when they don't mean 1/10th.
- Captain Bubbles
Wow, that is remarkable that Todd Harris wouldn't understand the English language well enough to understand that what he is suggesting is absolutely impossible.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
(reviving an old thread) It turns out this is a canard. In English, literally literally means figuratively, and decimate does mean reduce. There's a good article about this here: http://www.npr.org/templat... -- that contains various quotes from Jane Austen, Alcott, Twain, and Fitzgerald using literally to mean figuratively.
- j1m
I only say literally if I mean literally. And I'm not entirely sure Todd Harris is wrong about what Palin needs to do to win. :-P
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I hear the veep say it quite a bit these days. Makes me a little crazy watching his press conferences sometimes.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
from iPhone
Heard a sportscaster say "It's literally a do or die game!" That got my attention.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Often, in current usage, "It's literally" is functionally equivalent to "Hear Ye, Hear Ye!" - it's simply a device to emphasize what follows.
- Micah Wittman
Is that a command Karma? If so, then, Micah, you are correct.
- Mitch
Now I'll have to google-up an essay, can't remember the who or the where, but a linguist that was building a thesis for the modern use of "like" (like... think Valley-Girl 'like'). Besides literally just reading the literature, she used discussions between her teenage daughter and her friends as sampling.
- Micah Wittman
She found 'like' was actually being used in a variety of modes, that it was relatively complex language phenomenon.
- Micah Wittman
No. Mitch, just a shorthand, but I am sure he appreciated it. :-)
- Karma Martell
If you want a great series of essays describing the perversion of English, check out "What Orwell Didn't Know."
- Mitch
Mitch, I'll have to read that. You might also enjoy this essay: "To See Truly Through a Glass Darkly: C. S. Lewis, George Orwell, and the Corruption of Language" | http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/article...
- Melanie Reed
this was mentioned in an episode of "how i met your mother", the one with the interventions, in the 3rd or 4th season:) Ted character would be correcting these all the time, however even since then, I guess I am using it in the wrong way.. well, at least I'm not a native-speaker-anchor-tv person:)
- Neşe Uyanık
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Lindsay
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Jason Huebel
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Thanks Paola, Michael, Artemko, J. and Daniel!
- Micah Wittman
1.09 (9990/9105) From and including: Saturday, April 26, 2008 To and including: Thursday, November 12, 2009 It is 566 days from the start date to the end date, end date included Or 1 year, 6 months, 18 days including the end date to reach 10,000 comments.
- Christopher Harley
But no one makes love like Neil Patrick Harris is dancing? FAIL!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
My brother in law in the Philippines can't be dissuaded from naming his son Elmo. I hope that unborn boy is ready to be tormented for the rest of his life. Why do parents do that to their kids?
- Bradley Farless
You know, in my heart I hope that people like NPH who seem just so damn awesome on the screen are just as cool in real life. Anyone met the fellow in person?
- Adam Lasnik
I'm sure he's a decent guy. Never met him, though.
- Josh Haley
But he sure can dance, just look at him go!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Love him when he's unicorn watching.
- Gabrielle V
Okay, I swear I am not just pimpin' good swing music, but I was looking at this GIF and listening to this song - http://lala.com/zPe9 ("Billie's Bounce" performed live by Buddy Rich) - and it matches! :o
- Adam Lasnik
Gross. I just unliked to be contrary. Yet another reason why I pulled back from FriendFeed. And why getting swallowed up by Facebook, the great leveler, couldn't make more sense.
- Rick Powell
That's right, all you horrible time-wasters you! Get back to talking about kernels and APIs! Have you no Protestant work-ethic? /sarcasm
- Neal Jansons
ben hep Aziz'de katılır diyordum bu oluşuma,.. Eren - Deniz - Aziz'in başharflerinden EDA diye şeyederdiniz (ne yaptığımı farkettiniz di mi harf oyunuyla,..)
- Ozan Caglargil
haha teşekkürler herkese. Ozan ne ara isim düşündün abi :) bak senin de kalbin san franciscoda ben biliyorum, ordan bunları düşünüyosun :D
- D. Eda Goze
Thx for liking, but I simply MUST insist that you also weigh in! I want to get some good Google Voice info out of your comments... here, on the Current.com page, Facebook, whatever.
- Sarah Lane
What, you gonna deny a poor little woman with a brain tumor? I think not. ;)
- Sarah Lane
Also! My Google Voice number is in this segment for all to admire. And so's my cell phone number, but I tried pretty hard to blur that one out. :)
- Sarah Lane
Sorry, Sarah - can't be monitoring FF *all* the time... :) I honestly haven't used Google Voice much for some of the same reasons you mentioned. For some reason my number is firmly stuck in my head, but I haven't given it out to many folks (more out of laziness than anything, since my friends all have my cell number already). Haven't run into the issue with voicemail (even though I have...
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- Thomas
Sarah - you're right - it pretty much sucks if you don't give out your Google Voice number. The lack of Visual Voicemail integration is also a big let-down. I've experimented with it by distributing my GV number to Facebook contacts who I don't want stalking me (I made a group for them). I've found that the inbound calling, and SMS forwarding is really cool and works flawlessly. Outbound calling and voicemails requires a visit to the GV mobile page (which I keep open in Safari on my iPhone).
- Ankush Narula
Thinking about it some more, I can see a use where you give the GV number to all your creditors and potential telemarketers. I use my land line for that now, but eventually I want to get rid of that. Another use - if you want a number in a different area code. As someone who wants to eventually sell a screenplay, it might behoove me at some point to get a number in the 310 area code to...
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- Thomas
I love Sarah because she hasn't abandoned FriendFeed like the rest of the geeks. Keep using it Sarah! I'm even more a follower now than ever.
- Jesse Stay
I agree that giving it to people who I really don't want to have my number is nice. If you don't really want to hear from them, just let it go to voice mail. And if you do, no worries, you can add them to your friend group. Also if you're in some networking environment, you really don't have to worry about who exactly you give your number out to. I did try to tie it to my Skype account but it did not like that at all.
- Jerry Perez
I like GV's send to VM between certain times. So when I sleep I don't have to hear a phone ring unless so are so important to me I allow your call to come through. This way I can sleep but still receive potentially emergency phone calls. Also, I have used one is a home phone replacement so if people call it, it will ring my phones, my gf, and the kids. And I can see other great...
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- Philip Griego
Google Voice works really well *if* you have a good application to deal with the Voicemails. I installed GV Mobile on my (jailbroken) iPhone. Since they recently added the "use GV as voicemail" feature, I find that I'm using it a lot more than before. The basic problem with GV is that it's not a voicemail replacement, as such (though it has that sort of functionality now). It works best...
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- Otto
I'm using Google Voice and like it. It's still better than the crappy voicemail from the cable company or cell phone company. I don't have any app to run it on my phone and don't need one. I voice dial to get the messages. Works great.
- Dave Friedel
I use GV as the voice mail for my Podcast. Works great for that. Also use it for all of my phones, ...well, that is mmm, okay. I really wish it was a bit more flexible.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Hate the lack of support to visual voicemail and that I have to go to Google Voice's page to make a call if I want my number to show on outbound calls. LOVE the fact that I can give my GV # to potential employers so they don't have to worry about reaching a number I'm not at.
- ChiliMac
If I could get Google voice to just let voicemails go to my IPhone I'd be happy.
- ChiliMac
google voice just seems redundant. unless you give up your cell phone (which nobody will do) its just another way to do the same thing with (as you said) one more phone / log in / password / gadget. It wont last. Friend feed, Skype, and Twitter are NEW ways to communicate. I just got rid of my TV to watch everything online (Hule, Twit.tv...etc.) This was a way to get rid of a redundancy. Creating consolidation tech is where its at, not new ways to do old things, I think it will fade away. Gr8 vid.
- echostreamer
The real feature for GV is small business. So many telcos have SMBs over a barrel with terrible features. These people can't afford a PBX with forward and follow features. They could hook up a GV number, including their established line, and allow for forwards to any number, without the need to put 5 different numbers on their business cards. This is really a killer feature, and visual voicemail won't matter to those people. (also posted to current)
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I'm probably a minority here, but since I have an Android phone I'll chime in: GV works like a charm (including masking my number on outbound calls/sms) using the GV app for my phone.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
My use case is probably different then most. I use GV almost exclusively as a web based PBX. Very rarely do I use it on a cell phone unless the number is being forwarded there. I also use the number experimentally with widgets or by posting on developmental sites to track conversions that take the route of inbound phone traffic as opposed to an online sale. I also like the fact that messages are recorded online so I can forward them as needed.
- Eric Logan
Favorite Google Voice feature: voicemail transcription sent to my cell via SMS and/or email.
- Shea
from BuddyFeed
Wait, so, let me get this straight. I'm given the ability to make lists on Twitter but I'm not supposed to tweet about it yet? You want me to keep a secret? Srsly, Twitter, you don't know me very well.
It didn't tell you to not Tweet about it? WTF TWITTER. I AM NOT A BIGMOU--- oh...uh...oops.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I got it and immediately tweeted about it. now it's gone. I did not see anything about being hush hush.
- Mike Nencetti
There was a note at the top of my screen when I signed in all like "Congrats! You are a Chosen One!" and then it said something about "but don't tweet about it". Srsly. I wish I could make it come back so I could make a screen cap of it.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
" New! Lists. A great way to organize the people you follow and discover new and interesting accounts. (BETA) Lists are timelines you build yourself, consisting of friends, family, co-workers, sports teams, you name it. You're part of a small group receiving this feature, so don't tweet about it yet!"
- Captain Bubbles
That "you're part of a small group" would have worked better with me if everyone I know hadn't already mentioned that they had lists.
- josh neff, geek at large
Anika, you are my new hero. :D And neff, I fully agree. I saw that and was confused. I think Twitter has redefined "small" to fit their needs.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
It was just a baby. No real threat, but I suspect we'll be seeing a few with the coming rains.
- Steven Perez
I shall call him squishy and he shall be mine, and he shall be my squishy.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Well, the venom the babies carry is actually more potent but I suppose they'd have a harder time launching as far.
- Spidra Webster
Besides, it was too busy slithering away madly to be any threat. I'm more worried about the larger varieties that hide in the brush.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I am considering getting him an enormous comfy dogbed. (Also in hopes that I can relearn to sleep without him sleeping behind my knees). And a new Galileo bone, some cookies, and maybe a new nobblywobbly toy.
- ωαřмaiden, MFA'd poet
new nobblywobbly toy?? would he sleep in the dogbed?
- Sir Shuping
the Nobblywobbly is something I stuff his bones in while he's in his crate - he LOVES them: http://www.amazon.com/Multipe... - and I'm not sure if I can get him to sleep in the dogbed, but I'd like to try
- ωαřмaiden, MFA'd poet
I'm putting Otto in charge of my Christmas. I'm not ready much either. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
"According to last week's stats: "Comments: 232 this week, 21441 all time and Likes: 270 this week, 18029 all time" If 232 comments and 270 likes don't count as activity, what does?"
- Louis Gray
I tried out Cliqset. A replacement for FriendFeed? Nope. Definitely not. Although they have a lot of the same service imports that FriendFeed has, their interface leaves a LOT to be desired.
- Jason Huebel
What happened to FriendFeed vs. Facebook?
- Jesse Stay