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lris
Easter sushi, devoured. Easter croquet, in progress.
Who is winning the croquet match? - Julian
My sister won. - lris
The toddler wanted the game to go on indefinitely. "Don't like it, all done game." - lris
maʀtha
Happy Birthday, Marianne!
Happy bday! - Joe - Systems Analyst
Happy, happy birthday Marriane! - Galadriel C.
Thank you! - Marianne
Yes! Happy birthday, my dear friend. May the coming year bring peace and excitement in proper proportion. - lris
Happy birthday! - John (bird whisperer)
Very best to you, today, Marianne! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Happy Birthday!!! - Hedgehog
Happy birthday!! - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Happy birthday! - Steele Lawman
Happy birthday! - LB: Ratchet Bear from Android
happy birthday! - Sir Shuping is just sir
Happy Birthday! - Jen
Happy Birthday to you!!! - Kathy
Happy birthday Marianne!! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Late but happiest of days, my friend! - laura x from iPhone
And another belated birthday wish from me, too! - Catherine Pellegrino from iPod
Thanks, all! - Marianne
lris
This Is Why Some People Should Not Be Allowed On Facebook http://themetapicture.com/this-is...
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"I just learned africa isn't a country." "Crazy! So is it a developing country? Or jst a continent?" "I don't know, I'll find out later in the semester and let you know." - lris
SMH - Anne Bouey
"Canadians think the titanic was a real event and not just a movie, how dumb can you be." - lris
This cannot be real. - Eric - Watch Me Now
Gotta be a troll. I hope. - Andrew C (✔)
WAIT, THE TITANIC WAS REAL?? - Brent Schaus
Regular Amanda
And so it is near the end of the semester, when the cries of students echo throughout the library "please, I've already finished my paper and just need a few sources", and the librarians despair.
sob - lris
*wince*....yup, I get those for case reports from my dentistry students. - Hedgehog
Now that I've been teaching semester-long classes for a few years, I am convinced that finding sources for a complete-ish paper is actually a BETTER strategy than getting so overwhelmed by sources that the writing becomes a patchwork of badly-integrated quotes (barely) held together by very little student-generated thought. - kaijsa
I see that point, because at least it means that most of this paper is the student's reaction to the text rather than the regurgitation of other opinions. But it also means that the student is now going to find a few articles in JSTOR, ctrl+F for applicable phrases, and patchwork that nonsense in anyway. I hate setting these poor articles up for abuse like that. - Regular Amanda
Ugh. I think this is symptomatic of how students are told to write a paper but never taught how to write a paper or told why they should write papers, beyond hoop-jumping and grade-making. Kaijisa, I see what you're saying, but I worry about the effects of the "write up thoughts, then find support" approach because the students are not necessarily properly relying on evidence to guide... more... - Rachel Walden
Just to be clear, I am not defending any of these practices. Writing AND research are iterative and interconnected processes. Using sources well is really, really hard and requires a lot more instruction and opportunity for practice than is typically given. As Rachel says, requiring something is not teaching it. I'm kicking myself over this and many other things this semester. - kaijsa
^^Yup. - Rachel Walden
Zamms
YOU GUYS, I AM NOW MARRIED TO A DOCTOR!!!!!!!!
woot!!! - Derrick
WOOOOOOOOO - lris
*dances and hugs everyone* - lris
Gratz! Trophy husband status achieved. :) - Lnorigb from FFHound!
Turn your head and cough? - Johnny from iPhone
Hey, I don't talk about our personal life in public, Johnny... oh wait, I saw what you did there... - Zamms
Does your wife know about this? - Steele Lawman
*rimshot* - Zamms
shut the front door! (tell her congrats) - Meg VMeg
I will! I will also shut the front door. - Zamms
GREAT NEWS!!!!... um, so i have this pain on my left side? - MoTO Moca Blend
Yeah, and I've got this rash... - Melly
Were these ailments caused by the social networking between Broadway producers, directors, and writers? - Zamms
By "social networking" you mean what exactly? - MoTO Moca Blend
In the sociological sense, not the interwebs sense. - Zamms
"Ooh babe, that's SO GOOD! Hey, while you're down there... does that look infected to you?" #ThingsNOTtoDoOnYourHoneymoon <Ducks & runs> - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ from Android
Ducks and Runs are also #ThingsNOTtoDoOnYourHoneymoon - Zamms
Truth. - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ from Android
lris
Emailing with a faculty member about why he can't just log on to St. Olaf e-resources. Blerg.
His response is on the one hand commiserating and supportive, and on the other hand frustrating because he suggests that maybe someone should raise this as an issue to be solved. I'm sad that libraries get cast as gatekeepers when we often have so little power. - lris
Yes - maʀtha
Raise this as an issue? We should have thought of that! </snark> - barbara fister
replace "St. Olaf" with "Notre Dame" and welcome to my life. :/ - Catherine Pellegrino
replace "St. Olaf" with Columbia, NYU, and the 21 other schools in CUNY and welcome to my life. :-( - Stephen Francoeur
Is it in poor taste to cast the blame back on faculty? So often I want to say: this is the system you all collectively built and actively maintain! - Freeda B.
we might want to clean up our own house before we do that. http://figshare.com/article... - RepoRat
I think faculty are not in a position of power here, either. Sure, the rank and tenure processes make changing scholarly communication avenues a chore, but faculty didn't make the decisions about lending ebooks. - lris
Hell, the faculty here actively work against us even buying ebooks (and I'm on their side) - DJF
We have a browser button that some people like to use. (Developed by a chemistry student.) I think that has helped some people figure out an easy way to log into content that we subscribe to without having to go through the library linkages. See the thing about the DU Lib Proxy. http://libguides.du.edu/cool_to... - Joe - Systems Analyst
Yeah, here it's less about OA and more about "we're two distinct institutions that share a founding congregation and an online catalog, but that's about all we share, despite your fervent desire that the situation be otherwise." The provosts of the two institutions got together recently and hatched a Brilliant Plan for the bigger university to just "add" our smaller college to their... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
Yeah, it's REALLY hard to share stuff if you're not a single funding agency. We would have to incorporate if we wanted to be able to sign agreements together. - lris
My public library version of this is, "Yes, I know you have a Coralville Public Library card, but do you live in Coralville, University Heights, or rural Johnson county? Because if you live in Iowa City or Hills, you will have to use your Iowa City card to get ebooks, and if you live somewhere else, well, then, they might belong to one of these two other groups...." - laura x
LOLsob - lris
The combining FTEs thing sometimes works on vendors/publishers. My uni has successfully negotiated statewide access to databases, ebook packages from Proquest, Gale, Lexis-Nexis and probably others I'm forgetting. So we pay and all community colleges, schools, and publics in Wyoming get remote access. Our small population is a big reason why we get away with it, but if a big school says they will pay for a sub if they can add on a small school, it can work. You can do this with an MOU. - kaijsa
Dang it! Now I want a Sugar Daddy school! ;) - lris
Yep, I was going to say that too. We subscribe to med/science titles "consortially-ish" with a few smaller, affiliated institutions because we're so big that everyone else is a drop in the bucket (I have no idea what the extra-library university/administrative financial entanglements might involve). - Meg VMeg
Coming back to say that the ebook issue is still a big deal and a huge pain in the rear, etc. etc. Not trying to minimize that at all. Steve, Marianne, and Joe and I are all in the same consortium and I'm sure have all had to explain to a patron from another school why they can't access one of our ebooks that tantalizingly sits there in the shared catalog. To make it more confusing, we... more... - kaijsa
^^^ yep - Steele Lawman
Crazy mashup of shared catalogs and proprietary collections. Hello, new world. Ugh. - barbara fister
Possible silver lining: it's going to be hard to get these problems fixed until faculty are aware of them, and obviously they're becoming aware. The trick there, of course, is how to get their outrage pointed in the right direction. - RepoRat
One thing that's really not working in our favor is that Carleton and St Olaf have been branding our libraries as "two collections working as one." All of a sudden people are saying, "hey why can't I use St Olaf stuff? I thought our collections work as one." - lris
"One System One Library [only not]" fistbump. - RepoRat
ayup - lris
Stephen Francoeur
Anyone know anything about PhilPapers? Just got a weird email from them that seems a bit off in tone. Here's a snippet. "Those institutions that have not purchased a subscription by June 1, 2014 will have their access restricted in various ways explained on the site. Since PhilPapers replaces traditional commercial indexes, we believe that it is...
Since PhilPapers replaces traditional commercial indexes, we believe that it is appropriate for university libraries to support the service by purchasing subscriptions. This is why we write to you. " - Stephen Francoeur
Then, I'm told that 22 faculty and students use the site. As far as I can tell, there are no faculty. Just students. Anyone seen anything like this before? It reminds me a bit of the problem arXiv is having in getting institutions to pitch in with $$$ but I've never even heard of PhilPapers before. - Stephen Francoeur
I've never heard of it either. Looks like it is a free site that scrapes the content of various publishers. I'd guess that it replaces traditional commercial indexes the way Google Scholar has replaced traditional commercial indexes. Not quite yet. - Joe - Systems Analyst
MPOW hosts PhilPapers, starting last year when we recruited the guy that created it. Yeah, the group that runs it is having problems figuring out a stable funding situation, and they do think that the larger schools should be paying a bit for it. The people I know in the field find it very useful. - DJF
There's a certain tone-deafness in saying, "hey, we built this thing that you didn't ask for, or even know about, and some folks at your university may have kicked its tires once or twice to see what it does, so now we're going to send you a threatening email demanding that you pay for it." - Catherine Pellegrino
Wayne has updated his blog post following an email conversation he's had with Bourget. It also looks like the message that went out to people who subscribe to the PhilPapers newsletter might have had a slightly different tone from the one that librarians have received. - DJF
I guess they are working on users too, because I heard from one of my philosophy profs today that she wants us to make sure we retain access once this goes to a pay model. - Steele Lawman
Hi Everyone. PhilPapers is a very widely used service in philosophy. We have 65,000 registered members and half a million visitors per month, about half of which are returning users. This is huge for a research tool in philosophy. However, since PhilPapers has always been entirely free, there has never been any reason for librarians to be involved in setting up access to it. As a... more... - David Bourget
P.S. Sorry about the tone. We obviously got that wrong and should have explained more. For more background see my comment on Wayne's blog here: http://blogs.princeton.edu/librari... - David Chalmers
If only you'd talked to one of your local librarians before sending the message out. - DJF from Android
Hi David and David -- thank you for commenting here and explaining the situation more fully! I appreciate your taking the time to do that, and the situation sounds a lot more reasonable than I'd characterized it above, so I apologize for my snarky tone above. I've just taken on liaison duties to the Philosophy department at my college (which isn't on the list, despite being one of many... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
thanks for the information on this y'all, especially David and David. I didn't get that message, but I'll pass it on to the philosophy liaison so that she can talk to the department about it and see if they have any money to kick in. I do have one small note of concern in that the site identifies faculty/students by name....is this something that when folks register are aware of? - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm happy that they pushed the date back but it's still way too soon. A 6-month window would have been more in line with the way interface changes/license changes are offered. Plus, our $ are all gone for this fiscal year (ends in June). If we know far enough in advance, we can encumber the funds and plan for it. Not happy with the way this played out and not making me terribly... more... - Stephen Francoeur
For some reason that I don't entirely understand, Wayne Bivens-Tatum deleted his original blog post at Academic Librarian about this and then posted a new one: http://blogs.princeton.edu/librari... My comments on the original post have now gone poof, too. - Stephen Francoeur
Stephen yeah on the money as well. I hadn't thought of that til I started writing the email. $500 isn't bad compared to other things, but my library has no way of paying for this for the upcoming year given that we're already tight with just keeping access to what we have and whether the department or someone else at the univ. can swing it, i don't know. I can kinda understand why Wayne... more... - Sir Shuping is just sir
Could someone refresh my memory on the link to the information about subscribers on their site? - lris
I'm also bothered by the lack of user privacy in this, and the money issue is very real. Since most of our registered users are faculty, they're very interested in supporting. But they're going to have to cancel a journal subscription or two in order to pay for it, and we don't do our journal renewal until this summer. There's no way we can start a new subscription until after the... more... - Kirsten
Thanks. Sir. - lris
I wish W B-T hadn't deleted his post and the comments. I understand the urge to retract but now I'm even more confused. - barbara fister
Concerning the privacy issue, do the faculty and students know that they are going to be listed on the website as a user of the database? That is really the first time that I had seen that. Maybe it is part of a click through agreement when you sign up for the database. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Even more from Wayne Bivens-Tatum on PhilPapers: http://blogs.princeton.edu/librari... - Stephen Francoeur
And perhaps PhilPapers could talk to librarians at their own institution, if this hasn't happened? - maʀtha
Still not that I know of, but I haven't asked the Phil librarian about it - DJF from Android
I do find it a little disheartening that, before launching a subscription drive aimed at libraries, they wouldn't first take a few minutes to talk to a librarian at their home institution. Maybe they did, or maybe they tried and didn't get a response, I don't know. On the other hand, I am glad to see an OA project like this in the humanities! - Regular Amanda
lris
This was one of those days where I had multiple "opportunities" to be very diplomatic. I think I'll score myself as about 60% successful. Sigh.
Still better than me on my best day. - RepoRat
I got another opportunity... yay? Maybe I brought my score up to 65%, though maybe it was too transparent. - lris
I often appreciate people who are transparently diplomatic, as long as "diplomatic" doesn't mean "lying." - Steele Lawman
being diplomatic is so tiring. - DJF
so true - lris
I have a strong feeling you did just fine. ;) - RepoRat
Johnny
Does anyone have Bitcoin? I need about 0.01 BTC for transaction fees. Will pay current rate + 10%
Not me. Anyone? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Bump? - Johnny from iPhone
I don't think I have that much, since I diversified everything into other altcoins, and then MtGox destroyed the market. - Not Me
I tried very hard, I have 0.0098 in one account, and couldn't transfer less than 0.01 from the other one, which doesn't have 0.01 in it. - Not Me
Even if it's 0.005 BTC. Need to cover miners fees on a significant transfer - Johnny from iPhone
What's the address? - Not Me
1KE3KuZdMVhUkuhm3a4SacfihcxE9Hnm4D - Johnny
Let me know where to send the cash - Johnny
Don't worry about it, it's only $5. It wasn't doing anything but sitting about. Sent 0.00981 just needs to be verified by the network. - Not Me
You're a star. I owe you big time. - Johnny from iPhone
+1,000,000,000 sir. - Johnny from iPhone
Should be confirmed very shortly. - Not Me
Weavers fees because the name miner makes Bitcoin like coal unsustainable :) - Eric Logan
Went through. Ass TOTALLY saved. - Johnny from iPhone
Hurrah for Jimminy! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
W00t! - LB: Ratchet Bear from Android
I was totally on the edge of me seat over this for 14 hours (no, really, not sarcastically). WHAT IN THE WORLD REQUIRES BITCOIN FOR TRANSACTION FEES??? - lris
lris
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Down for everyone or just me?
up again? or still? who knows - lris
up for me, 12:53 EST - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Took forever to load--about 30 seconds. Doing a search, it is at about a minute and counting. Gave up on that, and I thought I try to browse to someone. Able to get to browse screen quickly, but getting to Sir Richard Abberbury (d. 1416) took about 30 seconds to a minute for that to load. Yuppers, I am going to report this. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Going to try it without going through the proxy to see if that matters. Yes, it does seem quite a bit faster. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Now it is fast again, even through the proxy... - Joe - Systems Analyst
RudĩϐЯaЯïan
"although I found the paper on a .org website, the fact that it is also in PubMed gives the published paper more authority" Discuss among yourselves.
I'm totally overthinking it, but I'm not certain it's a wrong statement. We do believe that the things in databases are quality, right? A database source gives an item more claim, yes? I think it's bugging me because it's not actually true? Or is it? (she says as she chases her tail....) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
It's a correlation/causation fallacy. It's not more authoritative because it's in PubMed; it's in PubMed because it's more authoritative. (Or actually it's in PubMed because it's in [journal] because it was judged by hopefully authoritative people to be of sufficient quality/importance.) - Deborah Fitchett
okay, so, the problem is it doesn't tell you very much. there are lame things in PubMed. in itself, being in PubMed doesn't really tell you anything about the credibility, relevance, or authority of the source. so, it doesn't hurt her case, but it doesn't help it either. - maʀtha
also, in the age of OA, I'm uncomfortable with claims that a source is somehow more credible because it is owned by the library or in a database we pay buckets of money for - maʀtha
Ah, Martha's just clarified for me what was bugging me about what I just said. That is: *some things* are in PubMed because they're more authoritative. Other things are in PubMed for other reasons. From this end of it we don't know which things are in for which reasons, and that makes it hard to assess whether it's authoritative. - Deborah Fitchett
Yeah, authority comes from the creator, not the database. There are white supremacist rags in Academic Search Premier, and there are top notch works produced by Orgs. - lris
Yep. - maʀtha
Isn't mayo an org? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
You're right! I thought it was .com. - maʀtha
Exactly. So, it feels right (most folks do this, even if unconsciously)), but it isn't actually right. For students learning to identify authority, we practically force feed them that stuff in databases is the good stuff, right? But we don;t do it explicitly, so we leave the ins and outs of the details unsaid. (student isn't being graded down for this, I posted it here because it really struck me as identifying something) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We do? I don't think I know anyone who teaches that databases are de facto full of good stuff. - lris
The databases are a tool, just like search engines are a tool, and print indexes were a tool. There is nothing automagical about them that makes their content inherently better. I am constantly telling students, "It really is okay to use the Google. Here is how it can be helpful." Maybe there are instructors who tell students that the most important thing, and the only important thing... more... - maʀtha
Here are some more important questions: What is the source? How was it created, by whom, and for what purpose? In what culture does it exist? Can you tell how it fits into the larger universe of knowledge on this subject? and so forth - maʀtha
I think we imply it when we push the databases. I didn;t say we teach it. And this was a poor attempt to apply a lot of evluation criteria, but this one they pulled out of the air. We may as individuals take a different tact, but I think librarians, in general, send this message. (and especially at MPOW, where most folks go their middle years without seeing a librarian, ever. Profs... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I think you're conflating search tools and evaluation in ways that I haven't encountered. You can perform certain functions in databases that you can't in other places. And you can get to some content you can't get to other ways. But even with database results we still have to teach evaluation and critical thinking. I often teach google, Wikipedia, and a database, each as a tool with its pros and cons, each needing very similar evaluative skills. - lris
The fundamental problem here is the (on bad days not entirely groundless) belief that requiring students to *think* in this way is an idealistic but fundamentally hopeless goal and that the best we can hope to achieve is to train them to memorise a set of places that are good vs places that are bad and do research by, like a pigeon, pecking the right button to get the rewards of a good grade. - Deborah Fitchett
This assignment was that they search USA.gov for their topic, and evaluate an item they found there, and also the potential usefulness of government information for their thesis topic. I didn't conflate evaluation and tool; the student evaluated with a criteria that suprisingly included tool, and I started thinking about how that entered into their toolbox. he wasn't explicitly taught it, but I do think he has been implicitly taught it along the way? Or at least, that's the theory I'm considering. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
This doesn't surprise me at all. PubMed doesn't have a limit for peer-reviewed/scholarly content because the (research, non-editorial) articles largely tend to be peer-reviewed, so it is easy to come up with a correlation to authority. In fact, it's basically used as an advertisement for PubMed, that it doesn't include news/magazine sources. The medical literature employs a different (more nuanced?) scale of evidence than your "typical literature", though, so you have to think beyond peer-review. - Meg VMeg
I have heard librarians say "library databases are better than the free web" which tends to imply "if you use them, you'll always be safe." So yeah, I think in a sense people teach it. - barbara fister
I'm intrigued by the implicit ".org is less authoritative than .com" that seems to underlie the original statement. Am I reading too much into that? - Cameron Neylon
Oh, I read that as "Being on a .org site hints at a paper's authority, and indexing in PubMed confirms." PubMed isn't a .com. - Meg VMeg
I read it as "this advocacy group posted this info, but it's SCIENCE not advocacy and SCIENCE is truth." Or "it's not just on this website, it was published elsewhere and confirms what the website says." or something like that... - barbara fister
laura x
We're gonna party like it's 2005 and have blogs on our new website. Please help me think of a better name than Adult Blog.
Ooooh. ADULT blog. - SAM
You're going to have several? I would probably get clever and not say adult or teens or children explicitly. Is there something unique to your physical library/ies you could capitalize on? What is the focus of the blog? Reviews/events/services, or something narrower? I like SPL's names--Shelf Talk is their adult blog and Push to Talk is for teens. NYPL has some good names for their... more... - kaijsa
Sorry. Other people will probably be more helpful and think of actual names. - kaijsa
Yes, we're going to have an adult one, a teen one, and a children's one (as I said, it's like 2005!). I am only responsible for the adult one, which I very much do not want to call Adult Blog, for obvious reasons. - laura x
I would read something called Adult Blog if you were the author, laura. - Marie
Twenty-One Up; Read For Your Life - Pete
Could you be more specific about the focus? It will help with the clever. - Holly's favorite Anna
[No-one ever let me use the slogan "Lonely librarians waiting for your call" for our virtual reference service. :-( ] - Deborah Fitchett
Lonelylibrarianswaitingforyourcall would make a great tumblr. - Joe - Systems Analyst
The adulterated blog. You could have a click through agreement that asks if the reader is over 21 like a liquor website. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Is Coralville famous for anything? - maʀtha
Unadulterated - maʀtha
For mature audiences only. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Library L<3ve - maʀtha
Dial L for Library. - Joe - Systems Analyst
I Just Sit Around and Read Books All Day - maʀtha
Okay, I see you have fossilized coral, a dam, and a mall. Hrm. - maʀtha
It has no focus (can you tell how well we've planned? also have I mentioned we're also going live with a new ILS at the very same time as this new website?). So far I've written posts about the new catalog and cool things you can do with it, a nostalgic post about computer programming, and books with plot twists. - laura x
I'll bet that is how Coralville got its name. - Joe - Systems Analyst
We are mostly famous locally for being an endless strip mall. In fact, someone once wrote a book called The Strip just about our strip as an iconic American strip. Perhaps I should just call it The Strip. - laura x
Trying to figure out how to involve the word tease as part of that name. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Coralville Corral - maʀtha
I like that. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Literary Strip Mall. - kaijsa
There Used to Be Ocean Here - maʀtha
Am I helping yet? - maʀtha
The Strip: An Adult Blog - Holly's favorite Anna from Android
^^^LOL - lris
laurax, we use "adult blog" too, cuz yeah. It's in the "Adults" area of our website, cuz yeah. - Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
Mature Blog Would Read Again A++++++++++ - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
This might improve your Google Analytics stats - maʀtha
Meg VMeg
"Residents will not receive health benefits while in the residency, however the cost of healthcare has been factored into the salary rate listed above." http://ndsr.nycdigital.org/informa...
$33K over 9 months, no health insurance, and finding an apt to rent in NY? - Hedgehog
Applicants must be backed by a high-earning spouse or wealthy parents, apparently. This kind of crap steams me. - kaijsa
Yeah, I feel like a jerk because I know the orgs involved are great, but that sentence particularly depressed me. - Meg VMeg
oy - lris
clearly "cost of healthcare" for completely healthy 20yo is what they mean? - Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
Kirsten
Question from our Music dpt: Anyone know of a free or cheap system for checking out music equipment? It's for their instrument checkout, is my understanding.
I've seen a community media organization use Drupal modules for this, but that is expensive in terms of time to develop and customize. I can't remember the organization name, but will think about it. It's in Denver. - kaijsa
Would something like Delicious Library work? - Soup in a TARDIS
I honestly don't know, Soup; I'm just going to pass along any suggestions to the librarian who was asking me for ideas. - Kirsten
How about a clipboard with a sign out sheet. Columns for name, date out, date returned, instrument id. - DJF from Android
I think part of why they're looking is that they've been using a paper-based system and it hasn't been working. The clipboard gets lost, or something. - Kirsten
Barcode and use your ILS? We do that for all of our equipment. - Holly's favorite Anna
we house the equipment here and it's barcoded and checked out. but barring that, my best suggestion would be librarything. they could manually create items, with title, barcode, whatever other notes/tags they need, and then notate who has the item and when it's due back. if they prefer better records, then i would look at something like a google form, where the can have a drop down list... more... - Sir Shuping is just sir
I also vote for ILS, if you can swing it. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
We barcode and circ pretty much anything, fwiw. - kaijsa
Thanks, all. I'll pass this along. The library really doesn't have space to house the instruments when they aren't in use (tubas, cellos, and the like take up a lot of space), so I don't see us taking this over from the music department--they just wanted some ideas for changing their in-department methods. - Kirsten
Another vote for barcode and put onto reserve. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Fwiw, our music folks put their stuff in out ILS, but we don't have their stuff in our space. They operate like a branch library. - lris
It sounds like the ILS might be a good and much easier option, but fwiw I did remember the org I visited: Denver Open Media. They gave a tour during ALA-MW several years ago and showed us how their equipment reservaton/checkout modules were built. We decided not to use their stuff, but it's cool. https://groups.drupal.org/open-me... - kaijsa
Derrick
41.
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damn, boo, I thought you were a lot younger than me! *41 fistbump* - RepoRat
whippersnappers :D - Pete
lookin' sharp! - ~Courtney F
is it your birthday? - maʀtha
Kids. - Uli
oh there u r.. long time no see !! Looking snazzy bro - Peter Dawson
you make that look hella good, boo. ahem. Have an awesome day!!! - t-ra: lose,find,repeat
You make it look damn good. - Jenny H. from Android
Looks good on ya! You show that number who BAWSE! - (Curtis/Alan) Jackson
Happy birthday Luv! - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Happy birthday!! - lris
Happy Birthday! - Rodfather
Happy Birthday, D! - vicster: full-bodied
Many happy returns! - Catherine Pellegrino from iPod
Happeh burday Derrick! - Lily
BRAVO DERRICK - lucah
Happy birthday, my friend. - Steele Lawman
happy birthday - chamberlain
Lookin' good, D. Happy birthday!! - Laura
Oh, bless your happy face! - Glen Campbell
Happy birthday, D! - Anne Bouey
You look great! Happy Birthday! - Shannon - GlassMistress
Happy birthday. - Eric - Watch Me Now
They're so cute at that age. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Have a great prime number year. - Joe - Systems Analyst
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Thanks everyone! Your kind thoughts and wishes mean the world to me. Sending kindness and good will right back atcha. :) - Derrick
Another 41 fist bump - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Belated Happy Birthday, Derrick. I figured you for 10 years younger.I thinks it the "attitude" you convey... (that's a good thing.) - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
holly #ravingfangirl
because it can't be said enough today, happy birthday to the bestest of the best @geekandahalf! <3
hear hear! - lris
lris
Responding to the ACRL draft Information Literacy Framework - DEADLINE EXTENDED http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2014... (via http://friendfeed.com/lris...)
Edited: "The deadline for comments has been extended to 5pm Central on Monday, ***April 21,*** 2014." http://www.acrl.ala.org/acrlins... (feel free to use what you need from ours if you agree) - lris
Half an hour left. - lris
too late, all done? - awd
I say go for it even though it's past 5pm. - lris
They extended the deadline to ... I think the 21st? - Lisa Hinchliffe
I can't find any information on that. Link please? - lris
Digs through deleted emails .... - Lisa Hinchliffe
Thanks! (I wish their website said this) - lris
lris
Why would you want to keep your copyrights when you’re not planning to republish? - http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2014...
I think you hit the high points. All I would add -- and I might not even add it; it's pretty cynical -- is that holding the copyright may protect you from your publisher doing something evil and/or stupid in your name. Examples include the Georgia State lawsuit, the Big E republishing articles in low-quality journals (legal! but evil), or this nonsense Kevin Smith pointed out about an unconscionable moral-rights clause. - RepoRat
Just commented (probably at too much length). Short version: The shoe's on the wrong foot, given that most magazines and most book publishers--that is, outlets that *pay* authors--don't actually demand transfer of copyright. - Walt Crawford
We should all start publishing our research in Analog. Then we'd retain our copyright, republication rights, AND we'd be paid $0.10 / word. - DJF from Android
I will write really really LONG pieces for Analog. - lris
It's up to a dime a word? That's progress. 'Course, they only publish one science article per issue (plus one...I'm not sure what to call The Alternate View, but "science" sounds wrong), but hey, that's ten a year. - Walt Crawford
That's actually a guess. In order to qualify as a pro market for SFWA, a publication needs to pay $0.05, going up to $0.06 on July 1 (http://www.sfwa.org/2013...). I like to think that the larger commercial publishers pay more. Analog actually pays "7 - 9 cents per word for short stories" (http://www.analogsf.com/informa...). - DJF
Man. 1995 called. It wants the F&SF website (http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/) back. But then, I guess that's what happens when your independent and not owned by one of the big conglomerates. - DJF
Yep. Pay rates for the "big three" SF magazines are pretty pathetic--not much more than they were 50 years ago, and less when inflation's included. But given the shrinking audiences and fading number of book ads, the three are barely surviving anyway. (Most magazines, with large circulations, pay a LOT more per word...) - Walt Crawford
I see that F&SF is publishing bimonthly now. That's sad, even if each issue is "double-sized". - DJF
[Iris: Sorry for the threadjack] F&SF made that decision a couple of years ago, as postage was what was killing them--in fact, each of their issues really is double-sized. Analog and Asimov's both publish 8 regular and two double issues each year; their double issues are much thicker but not quite double-sized. One odd effect: A lot more novellas get published, since they don't dominate an issue so much. (And only Analog still serializes novels.) - Walt Crawford
In case it's not obvious: I subscribe to all three--which isn't cheap these days--and have done for at least a decade. I've *always* subscribed to Asimov's, although I foolishly discarded my box of issues in a previous house move. (Now I drop issues off at the local library's Friends bookstore after reading, having been informed that SF magazines always sell, almost immediately.) - Walt Crawford
I subscribed to F&SF back in the late '80s, but dropped it when Rusch took over the editorship and the content became dramatically, and uniformly, darker than it had been before. - DJF
To go back to the original topic for a moment, I know for textbooks sometimes there is a clause that if you refuse to do a new edition the publisher can hire someone to do it. Of your book. With your name on it. - Rebecca Hedreen
Rusch has been gone for a while; Gordon Van Gelder owns and edits it now, and there's a fair amount of humor (and a seemingly endless supply of Albert E. Cowdrey stories, mostly Nawlins-based, which I love). Asimov's, to my mind, has the best and most wide-ranging fiction. - Walt Crawford
[I still love the time I had to pay $10 for permission to reprint a column for which I got paid $16.50. That's why I like to keep my copyrights.] - laura x
A rare true LOL moment just now. Thanks, laura. - Walt Crawford
lris
Awwwww. A line from the comments section of a campus survey: "Iris Jastram is a gem. She is the most helpful, most upbeat, and most knowledgeable library liaison I could imagine, and I'm really glad I get to work with her!"
I wish I knew who said it. :) - lris
lris
23 Hairstyles That Are Physically Impossible - http://the-toast.net/2014...
The hilarity of this post crept up on me slowly, but was TOTALLY worth it. - lris
I dunno, Iris -- "slipping through your fingers like a bunch of ghost dicks" appears in the first paragraph. - Jason P
I totally related to all of this!!!!! - Melly
I'm a little disappointed that banana clips didn't make an appearance in this piece, but otherwise it was spot-on. :) - Catherine Pellegrino
It was the end of an era when I pitched all my remaining banana clips. I seriously wore those from middle school to age 40. - RepoRat
I think I've gotten rid of all my scrunchies, but I still have one or two of those .... horizontal clip-ponytail thingamabobs ... floating around somewhere. - Catherine Pellegrino
I still have some lovely hair clips that I should probably donate to the SLIS silent auction. Unless someone here wants them, sight unseen? - RepoRat
I have never owned a banana clip. When my hair was long enough, I was actually able to wind it in to a self-tied bun, which was my default, as it was much easier than, say, brushing it. - laura x
I was queen of pencil buns in college. I used to put an extra pencil or two in there because people would pull them out to take notes in choir. It was always entertaining when they'd try to figure out what was extra and what was the actual anchor pencil - Hedgehog
When my hair was long, I'd do a single French braid, right down the back. Easy-peasy. But I always needed at least two pencils to do a bun. - Kirsten
I used to have big, curly hair and I broke a banana clip once. It would not contain my follicular fabulousness. - YvonneM
Okay, that was funny. - Jenny H. from Android
I always wanted to be able to do the pencil bun thing. Alas, I never had the hair for it. - YvonneM
^ Same! In fact, I can't do any kind of decent bun or up-do without 100 pins and a can of spray. My hair is fine and really slippery. - Melly
Melly, you must wait for dirty hair to have success. I found the blend is dirty hair and then the dry shampoo for the root area. - Janet
I've still never tried dry shampoo. - Melly
lris
Here's a funny story from my morning:
office admin assistant emails me with 2 questions: do I want to sit in on a webinar that might pertain to me? and can I suggest a space in the library where 5-10 people could watch together?' - lris
I email back: yes, and yes. - lris
Email from completely different office head saying: "Hey all, there's this great webinar. Iris will be coordinating logistics" - lris
I email back: ..... - lris
That office head emails first office head: "Wait, who's coordinating? Iris says she isn't?" - lris
First office head says "Well, we'll need her to set up for the webinar and get video and sound going and and and" - lris
First office's admin assistant finally pipes up: "No, that's me. Iris isn't coordinating it, just me." WHEW - lris
The end. - lris
ack! - DJF
I love that they knew "...." = "Iris is not coordinating" - awd
lris
State your name and, in a word or phrase, your relationship with eBooks. (from introduction section at this meeting)
Sounds like a 12 step program. - John Dupuis
Steve. It's complicated. - Steele Lawman
Steve, that's exactly what I said. - lris
You said your name was Steve? Badass. - Steele Lawman
David. Recreational reader, academic hater. - DJF from Android
Kaijsa. Fraught. - kaijsa
Dorothea. Erstwhile standards-maker. - RepoRat
Maternity leave edition: Jenica. Ebooks make breastfeeding bearable. - Jenica
Laura. Hater. - laura x
My name is Joe, and I am a hater of DRMed ebooks. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Jason. In an open relationship with. - Jason P
Laura. Joined at the hip. - ellbeecee
Julie. I'm just not that into 'em. I keep trying. But I always come back to print. - Julie Kane
Meg. Wholly and profoundly uninterested. - Meg VMeg
Rochelle. Old eyes love font adjustability. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Walt. Open relationship: My wife reads some on the Kindle, I haven't in months. - Walt Crawford
Kathy. Necessity when I travel. - Kathy
Julian. Whut...? - Julian
Christina. Necessity for fun reading. DRM's a bitch. Springer v. v. useful with no DRM and full book downloads. - Christina Pikas
Maurice. DRM is the devil. Device Neutrality NOW! - ♫Jorge Covert, Trainer♫
SFC. I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT EBOOK - Steven M. Cohen
Katy, and I have a love-hate relationship with them. - Katy S from iPhone
I'm Martha and I have lost my Nook. - maʀtha
Megan. Happy to read 'em myself, sad when I tell others they MUST use them despite the drawbacks - Megan loves summer
Laura. Love the ones for the Kindle. Like some of the ones we have at work for searching but not if I have to read the whole thing. - LB: Ratchet Bear from Android
Jen. Love/Hate relationship. Currently in therapy. - Jen
Anything I can strip the DRM off of is fine. - Deborah Fitchett
Catherine-the-reader: the Kindle app has transformed my post-parental reading life. Catherine-the-librarian: fuck 'em all. - Catherine Pellegrino
Anna. We're frenemies. - Holly's favorite Anna
Aaron: the eBook model for bulk purchasers, such as libraries, is broken; we need a new model (the print model would be just fine, imho) - awd
Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Do I remember that someone posted some nifty copyright notices in the past few years? Someone tore down our notice, and noted that we're a little behind on the law. Doh. #lazyweb
There was some discussion here: http://friendfeed.com/lsw... - Freeda B.
Here's what I put up in our library http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2013... - lris
Ah. It wasn't someone. It was IRIS! Thanks. That's exactly what I was thinking of. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
"It wasn't someone. It was IRIS!" happens to me at least once a semester :D. - Marianne
Library Fool
Copyright question: Do you post a copyright notice on or near your public photocopiers? While this used to be common practice at MPOW, it's no longer the case, and we're now passionately debating the issue. Do you feel it's your library's responsibility to post such notices? If yes, do you do it for legal reasons or for educational purposes?
While I'm sympathetic to the patron education argument, I wonder how valuable our attempts at educating patrons on copyright policy are if no patrons really read these notices... - Library Fool
Oh, and here is an example of the type of document I'm referring to: https://www.mcgill.ca/adminha... - Library Fool
we still do it as a cover our butt method. our legal consul believes as long as we have it in view it covers us if our patrons do something illegal. otherwise, nope for educational purposes at all - Sir Shuping is just sir
CYA, and yes, my advice would be to Just Do It. Check good old Circ 21 p. 20 for deets: http://www.copyright.gov/circs... - RepoRat
Yes, it's required by Section 108 if you're in the US, unfortunately. Here's what I posted by ours: http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2013... - lris
Excellent. Thanks, all, for your help. Iris, I knew you'd be among the first to answer this one! - Library Fool
Nope. Fuck the police. - Steele Lawman
Didn't a library somewhere modify their copyright notice to specify that the copier should also be cognizant of exercising fair use? I remember seeing this a number of years ago... It was a great twist on the normal copyright violation statement. - Sarah from FreshFeed
Yep, my example above does just that :) - lris
So if the wording can be whatever you want, can it be like, "Copy whatever you want, go to jail for all we care. See the Copyright Act, stud." - Steele Lawman
I'm changing ours to Steve's wording. I wonder how long it'll take until someone notices? - Catherine Pellegrino
"The Library Society of the World thinks you should be able to copy as much as you want. Your government thinks otherwise. Thanks, Obama." - Steele Lawman
Our copiers are being replaced by a Kik scanner, and there's a copyright statement users have to acknowledge to advance through the touch screen. It's not my department, so I haven't paid much attention, but now you all have me wondering if we can adapt that notice at all. - kaijsa
*giggling* - RepoRat
We've replaced our copiers with scanners, and the software has the standard copyright notice. I've never seen anyone actually read it, but CYA. I'll have to ask if it's modifiable... - Rebecca Hedreen
Oh, Steve. YOU'RE HIRED! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
barbara fister
I'm hanging out with Iris today - aren't you jealous?
Well yes. - maʀtha
We had funz. - barbara fister from iPhone
Such a great time. :) - lris
Stephen Francoeur
Catherine Pellegrino, "Walking the walk may be trickier than it first appears: An open access publishing story," Spurious Tuples - http://www.spurioustuples.net/...
Pull quote: “Dear [Name]: Thank you for sending the publishing agreement for Johns Hopkins University Press and portal. I’m very pleased to see that I will retain the right to post a copy of the article on my personal or institutional repository or online site. Retaining the copyright to my professional work is also important to me, so I’m wondering if there is an alternate agreement, or if the current agreement can be altered, so that I retain the copyright but the Press still has the ability to do what it needs to do with the content. If not, the current agreement is fine and I will happily sign, [etc.]. But if an alternate agreement is possible, I would prefer to pursue that option. Sincerely, etc.” - Stephen Francoeur
I sometimes wonder whether almost every publisher has an Alternate Contract in hand (ALA divisional journals used to, before the best ones went straight OA, and all of the book publishers I've worked with do--the "you keep your copyright" clause is clearly, clearly well-prepared in advance). Actually, strike that: I now *assume* that all but the skeeviest publishers and the OA ones have Alternate Contracts ready. - Walt Crawford
["and the OA ones" because those shouldn't be asking for copyright assignment in any case, although some of them seem to.] - Walt Crawford
My dad just asked for and got a similar license for his forthcoming book. Woo! - lris
Great. This really is in the "it never hurts to ask" category, and that alternate agreement is likely to be there just waiting to be asked for. - Walt Crawford
To expand a little on the principle that "almost every [non-skeevy] publisher has an alternate contract in hand," when I first asked the managing editor, she honestly didn't know, and had to ask around. And the alternate contract that she eventually was able to find is clearly of an older vintage (she admitted to this up front) but is still apparently legally binding. (It also asked for... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
And then also, regarding the "never hurts to ask" principle: I really, REALLY have to see this as intimately connected to the "women don't negotiate because we're not idiots" principle. I added that footnote to the blog post about the whole Nazareth College fiasco precisely because I think it's relevant. An accepted article CAN be un-accepted. Which is why the wording and tone of the email I sent had to be so, so, SO carefully-calibrated. I really cannot emphasize this strongly enough. - Catherine Pellegrino
When I was initially casting about for homes for this article (I can't find the post now, because Friendfeed is a new service and they're still working out the kinks) I was given advice to submit it to various journals and "just add the SPARC addendum." Which was well-intentioned but not especially helpful: what if the journal said no to the SPARC addendum? (I had no way to efficiently... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
amazing how often bad unreflected-on advice contains the word "just." - RepoRat
I'd never suggest that my advice is good advice, but I wonder whether a journal that unaccepts a paper because you ask about an alternative contract is a journal you want to deal with. Easy for me to say, of course... - Walt Crawford
I asked for an alternate agreement from Springer and didn't get them, so I turned down doing the chapter. I did not even bother to ask the NYT, and I signed the draconian contract, because NYT. - laura x
Walt, by the time you discover it's a journal you don't want to deal with, you're already dealing with them. - Catherine Pellegrino
Ain't it the truth? It took me a year after LHT News was purchased by what's now Emerald before I realized that I had no business writing for them, even if the money was OK. - Walt Crawford
lris
Cod Signal! Please recommend (or identify yourself as) someone who studies and thinks about "community sourcing" (people helping each other via Facebook, Twitter... Friendfeed... like I'm asking for right now). Bonus for being in the Minnesota/Iowa/Wisconsin area.
Context: Carleton & St Olaf are hoping to identify a few speakers to talk to our library and IT staffs in early June. (Also, we're a friendly and engaging bunch of folks, so don't be shy!) - lris
I can put you in touch with the Library as Incubator Project folks -- this isn't *exactly* their thing but it sure is right next door. - RepoRat
Oooh, good idea! Thank you! - lris
Sure! One of 'em owes me a favor at present, so it's all good. *g* - RepoRat
Monday bump. :) - lris
A google search on "community sourcing" and libraries and wisconsin found the library as incubator folk, so someone thinks they do that. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Maybe people from MetaFilter? Jessamyn probably knows some folks in that region. - laura x from iPhone
Catherine Pellegrino
because Johns Hopkins University Press so conveniently placed these two articles next to each other for screenshotability: http://muse.jhu.edu/journal...
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What? That's totally a word. - Catherine Pellegrino
I was wondering if you guys were going to be in the same issue, and here you are back-to-back! - Steele Lawman
BFFs! - lris
this is how world domination starts... - jambina
well I for one welcome our new information-literacy overladies - RepoRat
^^ - Marie
That is one special issue of portal! - barbara fister
I will be pointing my colleagues to this issue while bragging that I know you both. - kaijsa
Wow, that's a VERY special issue! I know authors on 5 articles in that issue! Apparently, I know very exciting, very smart people! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
copystar
As I have been learning about data and maps, I keep thinking about library support for non-profit organizations. If a non-profit organization doesn't hire a librarian themselves, are they out of luck? Or do you know of libraries or librarians who specifically support the non-profit sector?
Related: I'm wondering if the Open Data movement is an opportunity for public libraries to support this sector - copystar
Our library donates staff time to a non-profit. We also helped found the organization, though, so I'm not sure if that counts for what you're asking. http://northfieldhistorycollaborative.org/ - lris
That's a wonderful example of something that I hoped would exist! Much thanks for it - copystar
There's the idea of a 'Public Historian' and some understanding of someone work's towards say, public science. I'm wondering if there can be a Public Librarian that works within academia who works towards making works "public". - copystar
Like RadRef: http://radicalreference.info/about ? Or more from a collections POV? - Meg VMeg
That sounds like institutional repository plus collections digitization? Plus outreach? I think I'm not understanding. - lris
I'm not being clear because I don't have a clear picture of this myself ;) But yes - I'm thinking about more collections work (repository and digitization). Sorry - it's all very hand-waving at this stage - copystar
The Chattanooga public library is working with Code for America to open up data in the city. I think Nate Hill is the point from thy lib? There are lots of non profit librarians in SLA. I think they have a section in the social sciences division. - kendrak from Android
So, yes this is happening but on the special side of things. - kendrak from Android
Much thanks! - copystar
lris
The bird’s new hobby is to throw her food onto the ground and then hop down and eat it off of the ground.
I love how she's starting to explore more. She's really settling in. - lris
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