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Welcome to the room for the Library Society of the World! By joining the Society, you are joining a world-spanning group of library professionals and library advocates, dedicated to furthering the role of librarians, archivists, information professionals, and information educators through communication and collaboration. The LSW is about people, not buildings (although some of us think architecture is sexy). It's about friendship, not organization. It's about creating and fostering opportunities, not building barriers and divisions.
marthalib
LSW Upper Midwest Regional Meetup: Time to plan!
I think we already decided to meet in La Crosse, WI, where several folks live. So, now we need to make some additional decisions. Where and when should we meet in La Crosse? Local folks, do you have suggestions about the where? I think someone had suggested we meet around the holidays. I am in PA from December 21-28, but could easily be available before or after that. I'm envisioning this as an informal, social thing just for fun, but if folks want something else, I'm open to suggestions. - marthalib
The work-week of the 7th won't work for me -- two guest lectures and choir performances Thursday and Friday. Week of the 14th is okay. Weekends generally okay, but not the 12th because of the aforementioned choir performance. - D0r0th34
Also, I think we should do a separate, larger, unconferncy type of gathering elsewhere in the winter or spring. Maybe Kansas City? - marthalib
Once I hear from a couple more people, I'll set up a Doodle site. - marthalib
Should we have a pot luck of sorts? Or meet at a bar or restaurant? - marthalib
I'm all for the meet-up, but transporting potluck stuff seems like a bit of a pain (and also kind of hard on those of us with special dietary needs). - lris
Ok. What about dates, Iris? When is best for you? December? January? - marthalib
keep me in the loop. things are very much up in the air for me at the moment, however, if the timing (and finances) for such a gathering worked out for me, i'd join in :) - Katie
Anyone want to come hang out with me at Murphy Library? http://www.uwlax.edu/murphyl... - Galadriel C.
I DO! I've never been to the Murphy Library. - D0r0th34
Perhaps we could start @ Murphy Library and then go visit @Rochelle Rochelle? http://friendfeed.com/tinfoil... - Galadriel C.
thumbs up! - D0r0th34
Then we could find food at a downtown La Crosse restaurant? - Galadriel C.
Let's see...the week of the 14th is okay for me. I have my usual desk shifts and I have an ortho appt that week (which means i'll be crabby on Friday). I have space for a couple of people and one air mattress if people want to stay over. No animals yet, but might have a cat by then. - Abigail
I'm all for library hopping :) and then eating - marthalib
Other than usual meeting and reference shift schedules, December is fairly open for me until the term ends on December 22. Also, if you don't mind a cat, a husband, and a toddler, we've got a comfortable full-size futon in our living room if you need a sleep spot. - Galadriel C.
We have this vague notion of throwing the family in the car and driving south from 12/17-1/2, but I'm free any other time in December or January. We have a guest room to offer as well (n.b.: husband, 2 tweens, and a very inquisitive cat). Love the idea of library hopping and of course, food :) So excited to meet up! - Jen Holman
I would suggest December 19, but it sounds like Jen will be away. How about December 13? Or January 3? Or January 9? - marthalib
13th is OK. - D0r0th34
Okay, please weigh in on December 13. - marthalib
December 13 works for me - Abigail
Hey folks? Would anyone be interested in another upper midwest meetup in late March? I'm going to be in Minneapolis, MN then and would love to meet you all. - cecily
are you going to Midwest Library Tech Conf? - D0r0th34
I will be at MLTC, yes. - marthalib
12/13 works for me - I'm hoping to go to MLTC as well.I hear the planning committee totally rocks so I'm sure it will be a great conference :) - Jen Holman
The 13th works for me. And YES to meeting again in March when Cecily is around. - lris
Sundays are not great for me, but if it's what is working for everyone else, I can roll with it. I will even offer up my house and feed you all. - Rochelle Rochelle
December 13th works for me. I've got to say that an LSW meet-up makes me actually look forward to December! Cecily, it would be wonderful to meet you too - the Library Technology Conference is March 18-19 (http://tiny.cc/b2DIj), but we could have another meet-up in March too! - Galadriel C.
If Jen were going to be around on Dec. 19th or if Dorothea were available on Dec. 12th, I would also prefer Sundays, but it doesn't seem like those dates will work. Rochelle, are you sure you want to cook for the horde? I mean, I've always wanted to experience your cooking, but that sounds like lots of work! :) - marthalib
Rochelle, if you offer your home, I will help w/ food and cook/bring something(s)! - Galadriel C.
It's Tim's weekend to work, so he could do brunch or stop by after his shift (5 pm). I said we could come to the library caroling for him. Well, I mean, I would have to lip sync or shake jingles bells or something. - Rochelle Rochelle
I don't mind cooking--doesn't seem like a huge group, and it would be sort of a festive things to do. I cannot offer crashing space, but it looks like Jen and Galadriel can do that. Also--I have cats, if allergies are a factor. - Rochelle Rochelle
Coming from the Chicago area. The weekend of December 12-13 works for me. If it's on Sunday, I can't stay overnight. I have a meeting at 8:30 on Monday. - Betsy (bentley) Vera
by the way, I'm very excited about this! - marthalib
bumping up for MN/WI/IA peeps who haven't seen it - marthalib
I can show up on the 12th, just may be late afternoonish. - D0r0th34
Anybody else going from Chicago area? I'm in the NW suburbs. - Betsy (bentley) Vera
Oh, if D0r0th34 can do late afternoon, early evening on the 12th, maybe we can move it back to Saturday afternoon/evening? Then, if a few people want to stay over and get together for brunch on Sunday, they can. How does that sound? - marthalib
thumbs up! - D0r0th34
Awesome+fantastic! - Galadriel C.
I nth Saturday afternoon/evening + Sunday brunch. - Betsy (bentley) Vera
Sounds good to me. Again, I have space and one air mattress if someone wants to stay at Chez Hedgehog. - Abigail
I think I will take advantage of someone's hospitality, if that's all right. - D0r0th34
I think I can do Dec. 13, but life is a bit up in the air for Dec. at the moment. - Jill is sugar free
Jill, now we are talking about starting on Dec. 12 in the afternoon and possibly continuing to Dec. 13 if folks want to stay over. - marthalib
Penciling Dorothea in for my house-- I'll send you a DM with my snail address - Abigail
Anyone has spare crash space for the night of Sat. Dec. 12? Thanks. [Edited to copy from Katie: I also have my own airbed] - Betsy (bentley) Vera
Cecily, I hope you will come see us in the Twin Cities! I would love to meet you. We can certainly do another meetup here in Minneapolis/St. Paul. - marthalib
december 12/13th is open for me, too, at the moment. have pencilled it down. can anyone put me up for saturday night? i've got my own airbed :D - Katie
Shall I plan for a Sat eve shindig, rather than brunch? Or or or...I serve at your pleasure. ;-) - Rochelle Rochelle
Who still needs a place to crash? We have a spare bedroom. DM me and let me know. - Jen Holman
sounds like so much fun, but I'm not sure I'll be able to do the three hour drive thing then. This is a crazy semester for me. I'm v. interested in a Minneapolis meet-up in March, though. - barbara fister
Not sure, Rochelle. Dinner, I suppose, since I think most people are coming in on Saturday?? Although a brunch from La Raccoon also sounds very appealing. Which is easier for you? What do other people think? - marthalib
din on the town, brunch chez Raccoon on Sunday? - D0r0th34
I like this idea. That way I don't have to take time off and can be back on Monday when I expect the husband here. I'd be willing to share a motel/hotel with someone. - Jill is sugar free
Alas, I think that it's a bit too far of a drive for me to make (7 hours, and I tend to get sleepy on a 2 hour drive) and especially in December. - Laura H.
Laura, where are you coming from? Maybe you could meet up with someone farther south (if that's the direction you'll be traveling from) and they could drive the rest of the way. - Jill is sugar free
jill, do you want to drive up & room together? - Katie
I'm so excited about this! Mister is looking forward to it, as well. Now, the serious planning: I know there are vegetarians and one person who can't eat eggs. Any vegans or food allergies I should be aware of? Looking forward to the challenge of cooking for people with different food needs. LAURA--please come and I will accommodate you, as well! - Rochelle Rochelle
I'm of the No-Mushroom persuasion. - Abigail
i'm also of the no-mushroom, as well as the no-tomato, sect. i'm pretty good at finding *something* to eat, though. - Katie
That'd be great Katie! - Jill is sugar free
I'm in favor of library visits on Saturday afternoon, dinner on the town someplace on Saturday and brunch at Chez Raccoon on Sunday. Does this work for everyone, esp. you, Rochelle? Or do I need to poll people? - marthalib
I have a slight preference for Sat night at my house, but can roll with whatever fits others' schedules. - Rochelle Rochelle
Third the no-mushroom persuasion. :) - D0r0th34
Oh. Wait. THREE people who don't like mushrooms? This shindig is OFF!!! ;-) - Rochelle Rochelle
maybe we should just go straight to dessert :) - Jen Holman
lol. dessert++ - D0r0th34
dessert *always* works for me as my hips will attest :) actually i had a friend recently ask how the hell i could be such a picky eater and still eat pesto. i told her i'm picky in weird ways. like i really enjoy almost all varieties in the onion family but onion. i can only do regular onion in *very* small doses. - Katie
All possibilities are sounding fantastic to me though I won't be able to be out too long past dinner-time on Sat. night. Is anyone still still looking for a crash spot? - Galadriel C.
if you all could keep posting plans here, that would be great. I'm thinking I can either do Saturday night or Sunday, but probably not both. I'll wait and see what you work out. - Aurora
Galadriel: I'm still looking for a crash spot. - Betsy (bentley) Vera
Betsy - you are more than welcome! I have a cat, a husband, and a toddler, and we can offer a very comfortable full-sized futon in our living/guest room. Please send me a direct message if this sounds ok for you; if not I understand! - Galadriel C.
Galadriel: Thanks! But I think it's not letting me send you a direct message because I'm not subscribed to you. - Betsy (bentley) Vera
Time to start a potential schedule. What time do we want to start library tours? LPL closes at 5 on Saturdays. Dinner at Rochelle's around 6:30? 7? Thoughts? Opinions? Abigail has lost her marbles? - Abigail
I applaud your initiative, Abs. Can you and the academic libs figure out how to schedule the library tours? - marthalib
jambina
if your university has a public dbase of research interests (say, for potential grad students looking for supervisors) pls post the link in the comments. am curious to see what's out there. merci!
~Courtney F.
I'm supposed to do a tutorial on how to create a documentary next week for a class. Anyone got a favorite video editing program? Preferably Free and preferably Windows XP, but Mac OS X would be okay too, probably
iMovie on Mac, Windows Movie Maker on XP...for beginners, no reason to go more complex than either of those. - Jason Griffey
thanks Griffey, that's what I was planning on showing them, but I wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything - ~Courtney F.
iMovie isn't free, though. It's part of the iLife suite of applications. You can do some basic movie editing on a Mac with QuickTime, but SimpleMovieX is free. - cecily
iMovie is "free" in the sense that it comes with the mac. but upgrading to the current version isn't. Which is why I'm still on iLife '06. I'm a cheap bastard sometimes. - DJF
SimpleMovieX is demoware rather than freeware, but the demo version still looks like it could be useful for some of my projects. - Deborah Fitchett
Steve is older than ever
YouTube - davidrothman.net: On AL and Library 101 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
YouTube - davidrothman.net: On AL and Library 101
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This is how it is done. Rothman at his best, I'd say. - Steve is older than ever from Bookmarklet
ahaha, that's fantastic - Fiona Bradley
I left a comment...I'm curious about the connection he draws between disagreeing with LJ's promotion of the AL, and the use of Movers & Shakers to promote oneself. David? - Jason Griffey
I'll be curious to hear what David says about that. I think that there would be a bit of a disconnect if the same person is saying "LJ editorial standards are crap because they publish the AL" and "I am proud to have the LJ editors' seal of approval as a Mover and Shaker." - Steve is older than ever
Erm. If LJ editorial standards are crap, I'm in trouble, 'long of how I've been published there and all. - D0r0th34
I don't think I'd say that LJ's editorial standards are crap...even though I DO disagree with them publishing the AL. But that said, I really see M&S as an award from my peers...someone had to nominate me (probably several someones). But maybe that's me over-parsing my personal part of it. Plus, what Dorothea said... - Jason Griffey
Well, note that I said "*if* someone is saying that." I'm not personally concerned about it, but that's what I think David is saying. He also says that LJ publishes lots of stuff that reflects badly on librarians. - Steve is older than ever
Wonderful. I keep thinking whether I should try to say something about this whole event, and David's done such a fine job here that I probably won't. Doubt that I'll do any vlogs, but I sure liked this one. (And I've commented at David's blog, to close the circle.) - Walt Crawford
Well, and I quibble with the idea that LJ is a library-propaganda arm constrained to publish only "rah-rah libraries!" stuff. Some of the stuff librarians do is bogus. If LJ reports that, more power to LJ. - D0r0th34
And this is the answer? Yup. Right on David! - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Weak editorial standards can still allow in good stuff- and there *is* good stuff in LJ. There's also a lot of crap. - David Rothman (☤)
Barbara Fister. Andrew Albanese (before he moved to PW, sigh). Peter Jaczo. They publish better stuff than American Libraries at present. - D0r0th34
Wondering if AL will be nominated or receive M&S for 2010...would be kind of like when Time was going to give Man of the Year to Osama bin Laden. Time's comment: "He is not a larger than life figure with broad historical sweep...he is smaller than life, a garden-variety terrorist whose evil plan succeeded beyond his highest hopes." - Lori Reed
*dead* over the Mister Muggles cameo. - cecily
Mister Muggles was played (with unusual patience) by my kitty, Shelby....who felt it was a good stretch to play a male cat. - David Rothman (☤)
Very well done, David. I tried to stay out of this fray as much as I could because it devolved into name calling/dogpiling on both sides, but your video is a voice of reason (hopefully just one among many). - cecily
Best thing I've watched online in ages! :) I honestly can't say that I disagree with anything you said there. I totally wrote off M&S after they honored a certain master of sock-puppetry (though I probably should have sooner). - Meredith
In addition to praising the content (with which I can't find fault), I also want to say that I've never quite gotten the point of videos that are just a talking head...why not just write down what you have to say? Except, now I get it. Bravo. - Catherine Pellegrino
Ditto Catherine! I've never been much of a video person. This is everything a video blog post should be, but usually isn't. - Meredith
Catherine, I had the same reaction. Usually I feel like, "I just want to read your words at my own pace. Please no video." This piece convinced me that sometimes it's worth it to hit Play. :) - Rachel Walden
It was so helpful to have all of David's inflections and mannerisms the occasional silly face. It would have come across quite differently in print, I think. - marthalib
What Rachel, Catherine, Marthalib and Meredith just said. Damn, there are a lot of smart female librarians on FF. (Maybe that's because there are a lot of smart...oh, never mind.) - Walt Crawford
Yeah, it transmits all of those non-verbal cues quite nicely that we wouldn't have gotten with just the text. Plus, I made it through David's entire video without wanting to stop it. That wasn't a bad way to spend roughly 7 minutes. - Peter Murray
David, I wish there was a non-award that I could "nominate" you for. 'Cause that was your greatest video ever. - Greg Schwartz
Finally got to watch this. Completely brilliant. Thank you - laura x
David got it absolutely right. - Pete
Mr. Rothman provides a fine model for avoiding ad hominem attacks while being constructively critical. Bravo. - Evil Librarian
Y'all are very kind- thanks for all the feedback. :) - David Rothman (☤)
This was great. Part of me wonders, though, how honest and forthright some folks (maybe not you) would be with criticism of Library 101 if the AL hadn't been so snarky about it in the first place. But that doesn't detract from how much I enjoyed this. Thanks, David. - Joan
I think that if AL hadn't been so snarky then ppl who found the video lame would probably have looked at the *intention* of the project - to work together to discuss essential skills for librarians given the technological/social climate- and put their energy there instead of discussing whether low blows and rudeness are appropriate professional skills. - Kathryn says love n peace from iPhone
Katy S
You might want to check this out over in The Reading Room Fwd: Library worker’s battle with Black Dossier began a year ago | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/the-boo...)
You might want to check this out over in The Reading Room Fwd: Library worker’s battle with Black Dossier began a year ago  |  Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/11/library-workers-battle-with-black-dossier-began-a-year-ago/ (via http://ff.im/bc8Vc)
Pete
Amazing. Government listens to concerns over IT and privacy and shelves massive surveillance plan. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk...
Lori Reed
Does anyone else have to turn in a monthly report that documents how many hours you spent on each project? I jump from project to project throughout the day and it is really hard to document this accurately. This is such a PITA but it is essential to keep my job if we have addl budget cuts! Looking for a decent tool.
Our lib uses ClockingIT but I have a hard time getting info I need with that. - Lori Reed
I use our calendaring system to block out my time, and go back and revise y blocks if necessary. We used to be on Oracle, and now we wrestle with Groupwise, but any email/calendaring client can do this. Tough to get data back *out* of without doing it manually and eyeballing your week or month, though. - The Archangel ωαřмaiden
Manic Time will tell you how much time you've spent in a particular program. It's a free download. (I never look at mine because I don't want to know how much time I spend in Firefox) - ~Courtney F.
Oh, wow. I just don't work that way. - Rochelle Rochelle
I'm the same as you lori, i jump to so many different things during the day it's hard for me to remember to document just what it is that i do - Sir Shuping
Yes, there was a time, years and years ago, when we did weekly reports with percentages of time spent on each project (in systems)--reporting to a database system, which prepared overall project expenditure summaries. But there was a simplifying rule: Always round to the nearest 5% and don't report anything under 3%. - Walt Crawford
I do rough percentages of time and also typically do increments of 5%. - Rachel Walden
I use RescueTime -- but another way would be a digital clock plus a pen & paper printout blocked out in 6 minute increments... a lawyer friend of mine uses this trick to track her billable hours. - Aaron the Librarian
On a much simpler note - not suitable for Lori's purposes but I've found it useful for reassuring myself on frustrating days that I've still achieved things - memiary.com gives you five blank boxes a day, in which to write five things you've done that day. So it's very limited but limitations often make it easier for me to work with. - Deborah Fitchett
Here's something that just came across Lifehacker. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like it will do what you were looking for: http://lifehacker.com/5399561... - Sir Shuping
I've been using Yast (http://www.yast.com/) for a week or so - it's easy to set up and use, but it's easy to forget to click the start or stop button for a specific project, especially if like me, you have several you go back and forth between during the day. It takes a shift in work process/thought to do this, but is possible. But what's wrong with good ol' guesstimates?! - Dana Longley
Steve is older than ever
Off to the PO to mail Librarian Bombs. See http://friendfeed.com/lsw... for more info if you want a copy.
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Steve, can I do what I did for Codslap? Only with a different book, obviously ;) It's that or mail you the cash... - Pete
Pete, absolutely. You might find an appropriate zine to trade with at http://microcosmpublishing.com/ - Steve is older than ever
Shoot! I wish I'd gotten around to ordering mine already! - Rachel Walden
Joe....
Ruth Kneale (@desertlibrarian http://friendfeed.com/desertl...) will be the SLA DPAM chair. Go Ruth!
YAYAYAY RUTH! - jambina
Pete
Off to the desk soon. Four hours. Evening shift. Going to work on my A La Carte based subject guide.
Steve is older than ever
See Also… » The Jason Scott Sabbatical and Kickstarter - http://stevelawson.name/seealso...
See Also… » The Jason Scott Sabbatical and Kickstarter
Any Jason Scott fans with $25 to spare? Any Kickstarter users? - Steve is older than ever from Bookmarklet
Lori Reed
What podcasts do you subscribe to?
T is for Training and Adventures in library instruction - Sir Shuping
Too many to list here. Escape Pod, Pseudopod, Podcastle, Drabblecast, and Mur Lafferty for fiction, and sometimes a Podiobook too. T for T, of course. Trying out assorted video game casts, but haven't found the perfect one for me yet. Memories of the Futurecast, Cory Doctorow, a few NPR shows, Digital Campus, Games in Libraries, Ask Mr. Biggs, You Look Nice Today. - Jàson Puçkett
*whispers* none. - Rochelle Rochelle
*shouts* none. - josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
No Library ones....Knitting on the other hand... - Abigail
none. Kinda listen to some randomly though. - Amber, Random Time Lord
nada - Tim Keneipp
So I'm not as big a loser as I thought? (SHUT UP!) - Rochelle Rochelle
I have a 45 minute commute, and a car adapter for my ipod. I subscribe to three or for podcasts, but none of them are library related. Not even literary/book-review kinds of things. If I didn't drive so much, I'd probably not listen to any. - DJF
marthalib
Happy news! We're buying ebook readers with endowment funds for a pilot program. One each of a Kindle, Nook, Sony Reader and iPod Touch, plus possibly a netbook.
So jealous. - David Rothman (☤)
you'll wanna keep the Touch for yourself, I promise you - D0r0th34
I love my Touch, but I still haven't managed to read a book on it. - laura x
Had to fiddle with Stanza a bit to get it where I wanted it, but I can read with it. - D0r0th34
I'm going to put requests in for a Touch and a Sony Reader in my mid-year budget submission. Kindles are not available in Canada yet, of course. - John Dupuis
I think if it had margins, I'd be happier, but then that would make the reading area even tinier. I'd really *like* to be able to read on it, as it'd be super convenient, but I'm not quite there yet. - laura x
Our Dean fully supports this, which is nice. Also, it would be dandy if he would let me keep the iTouch :) - marthalib
I asked director for a Sony Reader--you know..."THINK OF THE PATRONS!" Also, our consortium will be getting some myILibrary titles through Ingram which are downloadable to Sony Reader. It's a go. Larger program will have to wait, pending me coming up with an actual program. - Rochelle Rochelle
Steve is older than ever
Fwd: Some/many faculty have not heard of google books. #bricknclick09 (via http://friendfeed.com/jokraus...)
If you were going to talk to faculty about Google Books, what would you talk to them about? - Steve is older than ever
If it's literature/English faculty, I'd mention search features. It's great for looking up quotations. It's also great for those of us looking for certain terms/ideas that occur in the text but are not in the text's index. It's also great for getting access for hard to find texts. It provides a way to compare editions and/or translations of a text. - Katy S
Also, regardless of faculty specialization, be sure to mention the limitations of Google Books, too. There's nothing worse than getting all excited about a resource only to find that it doesn't quite do everything that you hoped for. Making sure people understand that not everything is there is important (it seems obvious, but some still need to hear it). Also, explain why some things... more... - Katy S
I talk up the WorldCat "find in a library" and especially how to use ILL to get stuff we don't have. - John Dupuis
I've used it to find reprinted essays, particularly those that were brought together in essay collections or something. Catalogs are really hit-and-miss for that task. - lris
OK, so this is all pretty pragmatic stuff. Is that because you don't believe "the entirety of print culture is being rewritten under our feet" (as Dorothea said in the original thread, or because you think relatively simple, practical demonstrations are the way to get people to understand a shift that is taking place? - Steve is older than ever
For me it's because I think of it as a tool. Tools are great in so far as they help us do stuff. If they don't help us do stuff, I'm not very interested. Also, thinking in terms of the "entirety of print culture" is a little beyond my mental capacity today. Tomorrow might be an entirely different story. - lris
GBS is a really pragmatic tool that'll help people come around to seeing that the entirety of print culture is being rewritten under our feet. Nothing brings that home like realizing that you're searching the full text of literally millions of books that you can't actually read, all controlled by a commercial company that's looking for multiple ways to monetize that content. - John Dupuis
Of course, there is some percentage of the books that you can read, the stuff that's out of copyright. - John Dupuis
Or if the publisher allows a bunch of the content to be digitized. - Joe.... from iPod
A lecturer here recently found out that a book he wanted was on Google Books with full-text of the chapter he wanted. Apparently you could see the cogs start turning: "So... I can read it online? And... I could give the link to my students to read online?" One does want to mention the limitations, but why not let them get excited about what it can do as well? - Deborah Fitchett
Sir Shuping
I'm curious has anyone recently asked their patrons what they want from reference librarians? I'm debating whether or not to ask our students/faculty what they want/need from us...
Students don't know what they need. LIBRARIANS know what they need ------ <evil laugh>Ha ha ha ha</evil laugh>. - Joe.... from iPod
A reference interview about the reference interview... - John Dupuis
yeah kinda of meta i know, but something that popped into my head while daydreaming - Sir Shuping
i think that's a tricky question to get meaningful answers to unless you have some sort of a relationship with users. many of our users don't know what we do, or can offer them, so they give stereotypical answers, like "more books". also, by asking current users what they want, they might answer "more of the same". after all, they are using our services, so something works for them.... more... - Tara Robertson
Sometimes asking isn't the right tool for the job. Maybe in a situation like this, watching might be more useful? See if you can get a few students to let you watch them as they try to do research in the library and/or online using electronic resources. - cecily
We sort of did - we did a couple of focus groups with some postgrad students on how they find information. One said it would be really nice if there was a librarian who could help for times when they get stuck eg researching the literature review. You've no idea how hard it was to just let the focus group run its course.... (We did tell them at the end. And we do tell them when they arrive on campus! <sigh> I dunno.) - Deborah Fitchett
laura x
It's rough around the edges and very, very basic, but for those who were interested in my "what is a web browser" screencast, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
It's rough around the edges and very, very basic, but for those who were interested in my "what is a web browser" screencast, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBKKXIR4SgY
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I like it! - marthalib
Thanks. I'm planning a series that will address more things--trying to do them all in one screencast made it much, much too long. - laura x
You have a nice screencasting voice. "Tabs are to browsers what slicing was to bread" My fave line. - Satan thinks ur awesome
Thanks! My favorite line, too. I hope to be more amusing in the future. - laura x
D0r0th34
If It's Broke, Fix It | Peer to Peer Review - 11/5/2009 - Library Journal - http://www.libraryjournal.com/article...
more Barbara Fister love. "Does this mean taking money from acquisitions budgets and redirecting it to allied non-profit publishing? Yes, that's what I'm saying." - D0r0th34 from Bookmarklet
Thumbs up. On reading/formats, allow me to submit: http://www.daisy.org/project... - Fiona Bradley
[blush] thanks - sometimes I think I'm unhinged, so it's good to know I'm not totally alone. When I first heard librarians talking about publishing I had my reservations - there's so much more to it than just putting work out on the Web. But doesn't it make sense that academic institutions should fund what it takes and get it done without assuming it takes the magic touch of a commercial publisher to make scholarly work available? Dorothea, you taught me all I know about this. - barbara fister
there are days I think we could take over the world NOW if we just bought out a small US service bureau and ran it as a co-op. - D0r0th34
Like like like like like. (Also, will be interested to see whether the brief mention increases traffic to the Refs Wanted room.) - Bill Hooker
Which one do you want to buy out? I've got a couple thousand, let's do it! ;-) - Mr. Gunn
I said sometimes. The larger point is that quality typesetting and editing are the last bastion of the big-pig pubs. (That and editorial subventions, which is something I'm still thinking about.) If libraries learn to provide those... we become a much greater contender. - D0r0th34
BTW, Barbara, someone at MPOW is on the ACRL program committee, and I recommended you to her as an invited speaker on collection development. 'Cos I'm subversive like that. - D0r0th34
~Courtney F.
anyone here know of a Joomla plug-in that does photo management?
David Rothman (☤)
mita
Dear Drupal druids. I work for a university library. Should the library ask/fight for a standalone Drupal separate from our campus instance or is having our site via a campus multi-site setup an okay compromise? Please and thank you!
I´d say it depends on whether you'll be doing a lot (or any) customization to speak of, as far as module hacking is concerned. If you only need a few additional modules + templating, it wouldn't be too bad to share a multi-site setup I'd guess, plus you wouldn't have to do maintenance yourself (security updates etc.). - 'Mummi' Thorisson
I think that's the right answer, yeah. - D0r0th34
I love the idea of not having to worry about security updates but I'm concerned because I don't want to cut ourselves off from some really profound module hacking, e.g. The XC project http://drupal.org/project/xc in the possible future - mita
It also depends on how much freedom the univ. IT will allow you in designing/administering your site. Could you ask for a trial on their installation to see if you really can do what you want? Be sure to be non-committal so that you can pursue an externally hosted site if need be. - jönαthaη
Thanks. This reassures. - mita
At the same time I started this thread, I sent an email off to the XC folks asking about their project a multi-site setup. They were kind enough to take the time to reply, and they said that for this particular project they didn't recommend it. - mita
Steve is older than ever
The New LSW Vimeo Account on Vimeo - http://vimeo.com/7476513
The New LSW Vimeo Account on Vimeo
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Upload your librarish videos to our Vimeo account. Login vimeo@shoversandmakers.net/notala - Steve is older than ever from Bookmarklet
And after dissing YouTube, Vimeo isn't making a thumbnail image. My playback was choppy, but that could be my connection. - Steve is older than ever
I often have this issue with Vimeo - marthalib
It came up after another short wait. - Steve is older than ever
Oh, and when Josh is back from gallivanting around with Royce and Mary Carmen and all, we can ask him to add the Vimeo feed to this room. - Steve is older than ever
I just heard Steve talking! - JSNFLMNG
I couldn't stop staring at my own nostrils. - Steve is older than ever
they are lovely nostrils indeed - marthalib
Neat idea, Steve. :) I love Vimeo's interface, but I have that same problem with thumbnails and I wish Vimeo did mobile as well as YouTube does. I'm on Vimeo at http://vimeo.com/davidlrothman (mostly home video of Simon). :) - David Rothman (☤)
Abigail
Anybody in a PL using del.icio.us with their website to avoid massive link lists?
Yup. All our topics pages are delicious. http://www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca/researc... - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Excellent--thanks. Josh, that's just what I'm looking for. Now if I can just figure out why it won't let me embed the linkroll...... - Abigail
we're not a public library, but we're tiny: http://www.ecuad.ca/library... - Tara Robertson
We started to, but it looked so clunky that we gave up the idea. I didn't realize you could make it look good! I'll have to s how my boss the above links so we can try again. - Betsy (bentley) Vera
We went with a wiki format instead: http://gailbordenreference.pbworks.com/ (yes, lists of links; still better than what we had before) - Betsy (bentley) Vera
Katie
Before I forget this idea I got yesterday: I think we should come up with a plan for what to do when presenting at career days/nights. This seems to be mostly done at high schools, so the high school student would be the target audience. Was wondering if it would be better to collaborate here, in Google Docs, GWave, or someplace else?
I did this one year as an alumna for my high school, and the question came up on our state listserv yesterday, which is why I thought this might be a good project for us to do, especially as I can see a lot of you doing something like this. And starting from scratch can be a pain. - Katie
Hmm, I've never thought about doing this! - Rachel Walden
i talked to a bunch of like 4th graders once, but i was up against the undertaker who brought her hearse :( - Christina Pikas
Jàson Puçkett
I can come up with my new job title. My old one is Instruction Librarian for User Education Technologies, indicating that I'm the instructional technology "expert" librarian. I'm now also the liaison librarian for the department of Communication (Journalism and Speech). The first part isn't going away, I'm just adding the second part.
What should my next set of biz cards say? I like "Communication Librarian" but that sort of implies that I'm in charge of communicating, not that I work with the Comm department. - Jàson Puçkett
Strategic Expert Librarian - Steve is older than ever
Assistant University Librarian For Teh Awsome - Steve is older than ever
Duke of Libraries - Catherine Pellegrino
Ha! You guys rule. - Jàson Puçkett
Librarian X. 'nuff said. - holly
Instructional Technology Librarian and Communication Dept Liaison is a bit dry, eh? - Aaron the Librarian
Australasian Librarian for Instructional Technology and Communication - Catherine Pellegrino
Thomson Gale Professor of Library Science - Catherine Pellegrino
Jason, Denouncer of FUD - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, Holly. Of course! I would love to see an official card that just says "Jason Puckett, Librarian X" with no contact info or anything. - Steve is older than ever
Who needs contact info? People have Google now. :) Aaron, they're trying to get us away from "Liaison" in the titles now for some reason. They even said that some people are dropping "Librarian." I said "It's on my arm, I don't mind having it on my card too." - Jàson Puçkett
I'm thinking that my next batch of moo cards will have just my email address and my ubiquitous username on them - DJF
my business cards finally arrived. part of the design is a hole, i like that. i could care less what the title is, it's silver and yellow and there's a hole. - Tara Robertson
a hole? a nameless existential void in the business card that represents your professional life? Or just some lame arty marketting thing? - DJF
New Zealand money has holes in it! Well, a transparent plastic spot among the opaque plastic remainder. But you can see through it! Also, apparently if you iron New Zealand money it shrinks but remains legal tender. I haven't tried this, partly because it would require locating my iron. ObAntiThread-drift: What's wrong with "Expert Instructional Technology Librarian for User Education... more... - Deborah Fitchett
Heh heh. I'm thinking "Librarian for Communication and Educational Technologies," maybe. That or "Herald of Galactus" maybe. - Jàson Puçkett
I have also long favoured truth in advertising and just putting "Other Duties as Assigned" on the card. - DJF
Extreme Librarian. - Joe....
um...DJF it's a "design feature". Deborah, i wanted to put money through the wash, but didn't have a tumble dryer. - Tara Robertson
Library And Technology for Education Renaissance Dude (or LATER Dude)? - Dana Longley
My title preference would be "Librarian - Information, Communication & Knowledge in Technology". Is an acronym essential? - Evil Librarian
I am now known at the Librarian Supreme Potentate of the Fifth Order. - Satan thinks ur awesome
hmmm... LICKT is pretty awesome... - Aaron the Librarian
Satan thinks ur awesome
longtime lurker, first time poster.
Howdy - lris
welcome royce - Sir Shuping
So, how about that local sports team? - Pete
Welcome to LSW-L, more Rock Hero less Talk Zero - Pete
Hi Royce. Have a seat next to Norm. - Joe.... from iPod
welcome - D0r0th34
(are we still holding to the policy of the new guy buys dessert?) - Abigail
yes, yes we are. and a glass of wine/beer i believe - Sir Shuping
Royyyyyyyyyyyyce! Ya bastard. - Steve is older than ever
What's that smell? - Rochelle Rochelle
me, i has mudbutt - Satan thinks ur awesome
dude! glad to have you as part of the collective. - marthalib
i look forward to it. i hear all the cool kids are doing it, and its time i give back ..blah blah blah - Satan thinks ur awesome
Pete
Weekend! Have a good one all :) Beer awaits...
Steve is older than ever
Jumping Rothman's Train: I agree with those posting in the Rothman thread that the video was exceptionally effective *as a video*. And one of the "Next LSW ideas" was podcast/videocast. Can we work up enthusiasm for an occasional videocast, done by whomever has something to say & a camera at the time?
One possibility for the time-crunched: an LSW 12seconds.tv (http://12seconds.tv/) channel? A crappy example I did a while back! http://12seconds.tv/v/USCH5 - Dana Longley
I love the idea, but I don't think I'll contribute. I don't like looking at myself on video or listening to my voice on audio. :-/ - cecily
LSW YouTube channel? I like the idea; not sure I have equipment available to contribute. - Rachel Walden
I've got equipment and I don't mind looking at/hearing myself (though it's definitely weird and apparently when I was a preschooler it was *deeply* upsetting to me) but I'm not very good with open "Say something about something" topics - if someone gave me an assignment, though... :-) - Deborah Fitchett
I was thinking a 2min conversation would be good. Topic voted on previously that day using doodle. ? - JSNFLMNG from iPod
A conversation sounds fun. What kind of logistics are you thinking of: one camera focused on two people in the same location? screen capture of two people in similar timezones skyping? two people emailing an mp4 back and forth and splicing in their comments? (The last would involve a greater lead time but is probably the only way I could realistically contribute; skyping might be possible but is more likely to be awkward due to timezones.) - Deborah Fitchett
I could possibly handle a conversation. - cecily
I think there need not be one way to do it, especially if we had a group YouTube channel or video blog. One time it could be a monologue, one time it could be the simultaneous Skype, the other time it could be asynchronous Q&A or whatever. Iris did her little tour of her library from the front door to her office, and that kind of thing could be fun. - Steve is older than ever
A youtube channel would be cool. Anyone want to register codslap? - Joe....
We really ought to have codslap as a gmail address, too. - laura x
Has anyone tried this conference call service. I am on it right now with a state call, and seems to be working fine. I wonder what the recorded output is like though? - JSNFLMNG
you could also do the LSW channel idea more informally - each week or month there is a topic chosen or put out to LSWers and whoever wants to can upload a video dealing with that topic from their own perspective to the LSW channel, post video and text responses to ones already posted, etc.That way we build up a diverse library of video and discussions/expressions on a variety of topics and anyone can participate (who has a web cam or the like) - Dana Longley
Bloggingheads does some interesting stuff with video conversations. I've watched a few of them and they've been pretty good: http://bloggingheads.tv/ - John Dupuis
Catherine Pellegrino
Has anybody here successfully proposed a session for LOEX? I tried once (with a pretty lame idea) and had it shot down, but I've got a better idea this time and I REALLY need it to get accepted. Got any tips?
Beverly Simmons at the University of TN at Chattanooga presented there last year, I believe. She's always happy to help, and is a wonderful lady. - The Archangel ωαřмaiden
Thank you, Colleen! - Catherine Pellegrino
Things I am already doing: directly tying the content to one of the themes for the conference; explicitly stating learning outcomes for the session in the description; trying to come up with a cute and/or sexy title (including a colon). - Catherine Pellegrino
No prob - good luck! - The Archangel ωαřмaiden
Throw in an interrobang to your presentation title, just to be safe. - Stephen Francoeur
Sadly, I don't seem to know anyone on the board - http://www.loexconference.org/contact... - you could ask around and see if anyone here knows them ? - Laura H.
I'm trying to decide how far to go along the spectrum of "snarky" to "vomit-inducingly cute" in my title. - Catherine Pellegrino
Why not both? "I love <activity>: but I must kill it?!" - Pete
I was more intrigued by the sexy colon. - Steve is older than ever
Sir Shuping
Rabbits Against Magic — UCLICK GoComics.com - http://www.gocomics.com/feature...
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Friday comic for LSW! - Sir Shuping from Bookmarklet
Pete
Let's get this Friday started!
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