"When I come here because I'm avoiding the work I should be doing, I find things that are SO INTERESTING that I feel as if I'm in a subversive PhD program that's actually FUN. IN ALL CAPS." -- Double Agent Fister
He is so focused on the textmining bit of a contract. There are sooo many things to consider when negotiating a license with a publisher.
- The Ghost of Library Past
[whispers] Could someone tell me who PMR is?
- Andy
very interesting - notified webmaster about a typo though. Also the webmaster address didn't work as normal. Silly stuff, but when you want confidence, details like this matter.
- barbara fister
Everything about the graphic design of that site says "run away" to me.
- Steve Finger Guns Lawson
yeah, it looks like a somebody's-basement venture. but if they can make it work, good on 'em.
- RepoRat
I'd be interested in how the "basement" nature of this actually differs from Hellman's venture. [I'd also be interested in how there are 8 to 12 thousand "research universities"--but I guess that depends on your definition.]
- Walt Crawford
WTF Penguin: "Penguin eBooks will no longer be available for over-the-air (wi-fi) delivery to Kindle devices or to Kindle apps....Penguin eBooks loaned for reading on Kindle devices will need to be downloaded to a computer then transferred to the device over USB."
Eerie echo of the STM Association's position on document delivery.
- RepoRat
Somebody needs to do a FakeBigSixPub, I swear.
- RepoRat
DO YOU KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO PIRATE SOMETHING FROM THE AIR?!?!?!
- Zamms
and how the average library e-book customer has NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT?
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
And, for that matter, that there are quite a few of us who really don't believe two wrongs make a right, and thus don't "pirate" regardless of ease?
- Walt Crawford
Today Publishers Lunch reported that publishers *might* be okay with library ebook loaning if people can only do it from within the library, thus adding the kind of friction they think is appropriate. They apparently have no idea that a) libraries provide databases full of stuff online and b) their shitty approaches to adding friction already add plenty.
- barbara fister
Dear Penguin, we'd like as libraries to give you money but you apparently don't want it. Or for us to invite your authors to signings, talk about your authors to readers, etc etc. Thanks for helping us decide where to spend our money instead. *sigh*
- Hedgehog
("their" meaning publishers/vendors) This was brought up in the UK previously by a pub. assoc. ---> GRRRR.
- barbara fister
Since publishers are scared of Amazon, they kick the cat instead. I mean the library.
- barbara fister
I'm all for this. I think things have to get worse before they get better. Why complain about them opting out of the current stupid broken system?
- Steve Finger Guns Lawson
how about IBISworld? ReferenceUSA? any others similar?
- awd
I asked our amazing biz librarian, and she said Euromonitor GMID and SRDS are best for consumer purchasing, but neither are cheap. She is less familiar with IBISworld, but is meaning to take a look. For brand penetration, she recommends MRI, also not cheap. She said nothing is cheap.
- Kaijsa
Inexpensive and business databases are rarely in the same sentence. Almost anything really useful seems to be geared towards corporate customers, not academic institutions. And the pricing reflects that.
- anna
Perhaps Gale's Business Insights Global?
- Galadriel C.
Thanks for the suggestions (and the pricing commentary, I went with 'inexpensive' as I know 'cheap' is unrealistic) it's nice to see that I'm more aware of the potential databases than I think I am (I hadn't thought of Radio Advertising Bureau)... I've now requested Pricing and Trials... did I/we miss any other potentially relevant databases? Thanks again
- awd
MediaMark reporter (MRI),if she's referring to that is actually NOT that expensive in terms of business databases - at least their MediaMark Reporter item (they have other things that are much more expensive.) Aaron, we just got IBISworld recently and really like it - it's more looking at the industry overviews. It does have a really nice breakdown of industries (Glancing a the list just now, there's things like Historic sites, but also National & State parks as separate reports).
- ellbeecee
Yeah, I think I should have been clearer. We have MRI's University Internet Reporter, which wraps together a few of the MediaMark databases. I don't know how much it costs, but she said nothing is inexpensive. It could be significantly less than our others.
- Kaijsa
Hm, yes, or I should at least link to those on my libguide. Good thought, Mita, thanks.
- Jason P
Ooh! Nice. Looking forward to stealing the final version. :-) On the handout I give out, I add a tiny note that there are plug-ins for other word processors; I've had people assume that it's only for Word 2007 otherwise. Also, I add on our open URL link for our students
- Megan F
Megan, you have reminded me that I should slap a CC license on those. If you ping me late next week I'll be glad to send you the finished Word version so you can steal it more efficiently.
- Jason P
Yes. If nothing else, it'll help you understand the Accounts Payable and Accounts Receivable departments you'll be working with.
- Kirsten
from Android
(my husband will be impersonating me for the purposes of registration, because I have to do a faculty development seminar from noon-1:00 and may be late.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
elsevier vp of global marketing communications says there's a study of 4000 researchers in which 90% reported "very high satisfaction" with access to research articles... I have requested more details.
You mean like how many of those researchers were *not* at well-funded first-world institutions? (Or how many were independent research...oh, I forgot, there's no such thing.)
- Walt Crawford
yeah like who the hell they asked and precisely what question did they ask them.... the #$%^ moderator on liblicense hasn't seen fit to let my post through yet. If she returns it (which she has done with mine before), i'll resend directly to elsevier
- Christina Pikas
Sounds like something for FakeLibStats on Twitter.
- Andy
i would be interested in how many of that 90% acknowledge that their library probably pays for access.
- Georgie Bestie
this wasn't tom reller, this was another guy... so I sent the message to liblicense at 9:48 this morning and it still hasn't been posted... who runs a listserv like that?
- Christina Pikas
the guy is probably female (oops) but here's the name: Chrysanne Lowe
- Christina Pikas
The STM study done recently came back with results that said no problems with academic of SME access and I have no idea whatsoever how they managed to get those results. I think the questions do need close looking at tho.
- Cameron Neylon
I had an e-mail off list from Richard Poynder who has been in contact with E off list. the survey details are at: http://www.publishingresearch.net/documen... .. the sample is apparently authors who have published in one of 18,000 journals and the question is given on p9
- Christina Pikas
i find this astounding that 78% of respondents in africa said that research journal articles were very or fairly easy to access
- Christina Pikas
I find the whole survey and results fishy. 19 of 20 authors find research articles easy to find? Some of those African authors might get free access to Elsevier articles through a program they have, but that doesn't explain the 78% number.
- The Ghost of Library Past
Let's see: 82 people in Africa. 96 people in the Middle East. 151 people in Latin America. And all of those people are already published in some set of journals. I'm impressed...
- Walt Crawford
the corporate numbers are way high, too. the people we get here who previously worked at gov't labs or corporations (the big defense companies) always comment on access to the lit
- Christina Pikas
Notably follow up missing...'how much of your access is legal?'
- Cameron Neylon
heh. excellent point. probably the way to ask is "how much of this is through colleagues not at your institution?"
- RepoRat
You'd probably also need to ask people to exclude informal email exchange of PDFs, since published authors are more likely to be part of the invisible colleges. I also wonder whether the low response rate says something...
- Walt Crawford
interestingly, the earlier 2009 study of small company researchers found negligible (1%) use of local academic libraries (respondents wanted online access)
- Christina Pikas
I would love to do a study where we looked at researchers personal libraries and quantified how much was actually legally obtained, how much was grey, and perhaps even how much was clearly black market (distinguishing the latter two is hard, looking at most recent additions and checking library holdings shouldn't be too difficult?)
- Cameron Neylon
For a scientific publishers is it rather sad that they cite results based on this question... there is no establishment as to what 'easy' is, some of the problems outlined above... and we put trust in a publisher that gets its basic act not together to 'improve' scientific dissemination for us? Elsevier can better just shut up, starting giving big boons, because every reply only makes...
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- Egon Willighagen
Should a library floorplan (featured in the catalog to highlight collection areas) contain relatively extraneous elements? (study tables, water fountains, copy machines, computers). This is the new map I just made and I put everything in to start with.
The tables make it look cluttered to me. Also, do y'all move tables back to the same spot every time they get shifted? We don't, which would also mean the map would quickly be less than 100% accurate.
- Kirsten
Can you put small dots (representing chairs) around the tables so it's clear that they are tables? Also, may depend on how you want people to use this - to find places with seating to study, or just to locate sections like periodicals and popular works.
- Rachel Walden
Kirsten: yeah I had that thought about the tables (as in what if we decide to change them altogether)
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
I would be ambivalent on the tables, but copy machines are not extraneous in my library!
- Megan F
After talking with staff I am going to take the lounge areas (fuschia) and tables (brown) out. I'll see if I can fit a "copy" into the copier section (dark grey)
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
I think the answer depends on what people are asking for. Are they saying "where's a good place for me to use my computer" or "where's the curriculum desk" You could even design 2 different maps -- one for more social spaces, and one specifically for book-related questions.
- Steve and 3 other people
I agree with the importance of copiers. Bathrooms might also be good to include? And labeling the entrance -- I've seen our students turning our maps and themselves around and around until they get oriented around the entrance.
- Amandadon't
We found we needed to note room numbers and call number ranges, office names and bathrooms, but not tables (we have TONS of different study spaces). I don't necessarily think our maps are perfection, but they have been focus-grouped and tweaked according to patron requests, if you want to see them. There are five floors with maps in the main lib and other branch maps on this page. http://www-lib.uwyo.edu/about...
- Kaijsa
p.s. People seem to like our call outs showing where to find help, and also the icons our web designer and graphic designer came up with.
- Kaijsa
Yes, take the tables out for sure. People don't need to know where every table is.
- Steve Finger Guns Lawson
ours has lots listed (photocopiers, elevators, washrooms, etc) - check out http://catalogue.mcgill.ca and click on "map" in the results list.
- jambina
The Copyright Clearance Center is now running an "educational" program to ensure that users and creators are fed the appropriate restrictive view of what they're allowed to do with the copyrighted material that the consume.
- DJF
from Bookmarklet
Quick poll: if you're (part of a group) being asked by email for suggestions on something, are you less likely to provide any if you have to click a link to a google doc-linked poll? Would you rather just send an email? Any preference? Getting results in the doc will be easier for me, but requires that extra click-on-the-link step for people.
For me it would depend on how strongly I felt about the suggestions I wanted to make (one more click is not a big deal if I'm really wanting to get my voice heard, but if I'm meh on the topic I'd rather stick to email). Another consideration: if someone is wanting anonymity they might not be willing to send an email.
- Kirsten
Oh, hadn't thought about the anonymity issue. Am leaning towards just the email option, because I'm concerned ppl won't take the extra step.
- Rachel Walden
"In what has to be the most hilariously unconstitutional piece of legislation that I've seen in quite some time, senators in the Arizona state legislature have introduced a bill that would require all educational institutions in the state -- including state universities -- to suspend or fire professors who say or do things that aren't allowed on network TV. Yes, you read that right: at the same time the Supreme Court is poised to decide if FCC-imposed limits on "indecent" content in broadcast media are an anachronism from a bygone era, Arizona state legislators want to limit what college professors say and do to only what is fit for a Disney movie (excluding, of course, the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. After all, those films are PG-13!). But don't take my word for it, here is the full text of the bill (SB 1467) as it currently stands:"
- Katy S
from Bookmarklet
I believe the proper response is: Fuck that!
- Katy S
Let me be the first to ask: is this from The Onion? No? Really?
- Amandadon't
Ah yes, college. Those years where you are supposed to find yourself and test boundaries.
- Andy
I seem to only have Non-G-Rated responses to this.
- Amandadon't
I can't keep up with all the backward stuff from everywhere. You seem to find at least one thing a day, Katy.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
You are SHITTING me, right? For FUCK's sake. As a comp lit grad -- this would have eliminated a hell of a lot of what we read in the classroom. Such as Nobel winner Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Or, for that matter, the damn Odyssey (WAY too much blood in that last bit for network TV).
- RepoRat
Kamilah - a friend who is a professor at ASU shared this one on Facebook.
- Katy S
Would this mean that the Bible could not be used in class?
- Amandadon't
Oh, and you'd shut down the health sciences, too? I mean, sometimes you have to view NUDE BODY PARTS to become a health professional.
- Amandadon't
Criminal justice classes might be affected since you'd have to dance around the details about certain crimes.
- Andy
I can't even begin to imagine teaching Chaucer's Canterbury Tales under these regulations.
- Katy S
so...you wouldn't be able to have an art program at all, cause how would you talk about Greek, Roman, early Etruscan, Medieval, Modern...well any type of art cause they'll all like to paint nudes
- Sir Shuping is just sir
RR, the odyssey woul dhave been fine - after all Game of Thrones is on TV (or so I'm told, as I haven't watched TV in forever as the content is generally too stupid to bear watching)
- awd
I thought GoT was on a cable network, not on broadcast TV. The rules vary, remember
- DJF
There's a difference?! Who knew? *crawls back under the rock of the internet*
- awd
Hey folks - I'm for sale!! I'm currently owned by MRRL still, but it's a good time (personally, professionally and financially) for me to look for new owners and opportunities. Anybody want (or know of anyone who wants) a kick-ass IT leader in their organization?
I, Maurice Coleman, approve of this ad. Robin will make your tech sing like the O'Jays or like LaBelle.. Your choice. Both are awesome.
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
Ohhhh - New York (I originally read that as Alberta, not Albany...) - that's lovely. It requires an MLS, though, right? I don't have one of those - just a BS in IT...
- Webgoddess Needs A Drink
Thanks to an instruction session that somehow didn't manage to get on my calendar, the day-as-planned bears little to no resemblance to the day-as-lived.
- Catherine Pellegrino
This is what happens when I can't DM people.
- Andy
Blog topics, like the seasons, come in cycles. Posts about stereotypes, professional standards, generational differences, the librarian job market, the American Library Association, and "what we didn't earn in library school" are inevitable and inescapable. (fixd as per RR, martha)
- Andy
(as well as "what we didn't learn in library school")
- RepoRat
You either love that people find librarians to be sexy or hate that it objectifies the individual. No middle ground. Choose wisely.
- Andy
"Rockstar" is a more complicated compliment/insult than you might think it is.
- Steve Finger Guns Lawson
^^^ It's the best/worst thing you can call someone!
- Andy
Any pro-library article will be shared ad naseum, regardless of actual content.
- Andy
You either love articles about hipster librarians or hate that it's yet another librarian stereotype.
- xxZyffie
Change is the best thing ever! Except when it's not.
- ellbeecee
Don't do this: "Why, oh why, can't I get a job?" *whine* Don't do this, EVER.
- marthalib
Get annoyed when people think that all you do is read all day long, then give out book awards en masse.
- Andy
just when you are feeling optimistic about the profession and where we are going , you will receive another "please unsubscribe me from this listserv" email that has been sent to the entire list.
- Kathryn says love n peace
If you are still reading library listservs, these unsub emails are nature's way of telling you to just say no and stop
- Kathryn says love n peace
Make blogs posts complaining bitterly about library vendors, then go back to buying their stuff.
- Andy
For every librarian call to action, there will be someone who will tell you how it won't work, won't last, or is otherwise unfeasible, even if that call to action is to read the rest of this sentence right now. No exceptions. EVER.
- Andy
Modified Rule 34. If it exists, there is porn of it. And someone is probably watching it at a library. No exceptions.
- Andy
(I'm so going to make this up into an image file. I'll post it when it's ready)
- Andy
Librarians will argue about anything and everything until the issue has been thoroughly beaten to death. It's not our fault, we just can't help ourselves.This comes from our vast experience arguing with faculty, students, administration, executives, and the general public. And each other.
- Andy
The internet is for Google, lolcats, and second guessing oneself. In that order.
- Andy
Every second guess deserves a third guess from someone who is completely unknowledgeable about content or context. No exceptions. And they may or may not be right.
- Andy
Any online copyright conversations are over the moment someone declares that they are not "the copyright police".
- Andy
Andy, you need a committee to plan this image file of yours. 'cause there's always a committee.
- xxZyffie
Riffing off that: as soon as a library committee is discussing your blog, you're in trouble.
- RepoRat
heh, right. I shoulda added "at YPOW." Though don't underestimate the librarian grapevine...
- RepoRat
We should form a taskforce to investigate the feasibility of creating that committee.
- The Ghost of Library Past
According to the internet, public librarians are really just porn pushers, school librarians are just failed teachers, academic librarians are just wannabe scholars, special librarians just couldn't cut it in the regular librarian job market, and those who teach library science graduate programs are just failures.
- Andy
Don't forget that professors of practice in library schools are failed librarians! *resembles that remark*
- RepoRat
Ah yes. "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." Fixd.
- Andy
Librarians should embrace social media as a means to connect to their community and engage in conversations in new spaces. But using it it to promote themselves is VERBOTEN.
- Andy
There are only happy librarian drunks online. No exceptions.
- Andy
Complaining about patron behavior is inevitable and unavoidable. The pettiness of the complaining is directly related to the frequency of complaints.
- Andy
Oh, now see I thought the minions were people on OUR side who'd tweeted anti-Elsevier stuff. Had no idea they were actual Elsevier employees. This gets better and better. *pops popcorn*
- Catherine Pellegrino
I'd think the next step with minions would be to call out prominent academics who haven't boycotted.
- Steve Finger Guns Lawson
Now we've got @ClosedAccessJ as well as what appears to be the "real" Elsevier at @ElsevierScience. How long before a C&D is issued, I wonder? (I am also cracking up at @gluejar and @OpenAccessHulk. It is a fine day on the twitters.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
OMG @FakeElsevier IS GOING AFTER NPG NOW. Whoever this is, I love you, and I'd have your children if I weren't spayed! (And, Grace Baynes? Whinging about how the satirical accounts are "going too far" is REALLY SERIOUSLY not helping your case.)
- RepoRat
And the most recent arrival is @FakePLoS
- Graham Steel
Fakenature fakenpg fakespringer already taken, but fakewiley is still available...
- The Ghost of Library Past
@FakeEisen is the latest. The genuine Eisen is @mbeisen.
- RepoRat
Ouch, the FakeEisen is a bit mean. An Elsevier staffer, no doubt. How about a FakeLibraryLoon? FakeHarnad?
- John Dupuis
If somebody wants to do that, I'm guessing the Loon won't interfere. The Loon is pretty small potatoes, though. Eisen's a big deal. Also, DO NOT TEMPT ME TO DO A FAKE HARNAD.
- RepoRat
Elseviley is open, as is ElsevileyTF. (I used to use ElsevileyVerlag back in the day, but Springer is so much less awful than the usual run of awful that I give 'em a pass these days.)
- RepoRat
Wait, isn't this the same group who mutters about another anonymous librarian?
- awd
RR: You couldn't do a FakeHarnad on Twitter. The man barely gets started at 140 characters. AWD: I don't think most of us care who they/he/it/she are/is any more, we just think them's a troll.
- Walt Crawford
FakeHarnad's gig would have to be 140-char summaries of Harnad posts/comments. Tricky but doable.
- RepoRat
You use the plural, "summaries." That suggests that boiling down Harnad's comments would yield more than one terse summary. "OA: Green is the only, optimal and inevitable path. Disagree and you're evil." Lessee...was that >140 characters?
- Walt Crawford
I'm going to be heading US/Canada side week after next - visiting University of Illinois (U-C), Ohio State Univ, Indiana University, Purdue, Center for Research Libraries (Chicago) and University of Waterloo as part of the Research Libraries Consortium. There for 2 months! Hope I get to meet some of you face-to-face!
Here's another Overdrive weirdness: Patron has downloaded a book to Kindle fire. It is downloaded. The page header is there. You can search for content in the book and get results and click through, but the content is invisible. Played with font settings, nothing. Restarted Kindle. ANY idea WTH is going on?
the patron should login to his "manage my kindle" page and resend the kindle book to that device. he may have sent it to another "device" (like kindle for ipad or something).
- henry
Yeah, I'd try a re-sync after managing the Kindle content. After that, bug Overdrive about the issue.
- Andy
Also, check with OverDrive because I've run into a few things where the actual Kindle file on Amazon is corrupt. They'll have to pull Amazon into it, but yeah, I've seen that more than once.
- Dan: Bibrarian