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weelibrarian
calling all web folks: are your library websites CC? Is the whole site CC or only sections (ie. guides)? Talking website, not libguides
Our website is not, not even guides. Some of us have put CC up on things. - kaijsa
Ours just says "© 2011 The William and Anita Newman Library. All Rights Reserved." - Stephen Francoeur
I wouldn't really see the point of CC for our website. - JffKrlsn from Android
Our guides and handouts are CC licensed - maʀtha
I can't get the site to load this morning to double check, but I believe the U of Iowa library site is all CC-BY: http://lib.uiowa.edu/ - laura x
Ours is CC-BY. Details are at http://library.lincoln.ac.nz/Copyrig... A year or so later in a web redesign the full uni website followed suit: http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/footer... - Deborah Fitchett
i do wonder how useful most of the content is on our website and whether it warrants cc. martha - are the guides on the website or libguides. thanks deborah and laura - i'll check them out! - weelibrarian
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Would you say the acronym for this degree "Master of Library Science and Information Science" is MLSIS or MLIS?
MLSIS - ~Courtney F
MLSIS, but I'd check what the school that issued it calls it. It could be an MLISc. - kaijsa
I tried checking the school but it looks like they have separated it out into 2 different degree paths now - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Thanks! that first 'S' was just looking wrong to me - Mr. The Jason Fleming
I haz an MS in LIS. So I just say "MS" - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I have never seen an MLSIS before! - Meg VMeg
Google makes it seem like it's mostly a misspelling? Like recent Pratt and Syracuse grads are listing it. And...uh...nope. Is it Canadian? Huh, it's Indian. - Meg VMeg
maʀtha
Dear Beloved Hivemind, Would anyone please like to help me find a book review for The Isthmus Zapotecs: A Matrifocal Culture of Mexico?
Perhaps someone with Web of Knowledge? - maʀtha
I was hoping JSTOR would come through, but, nope - maʀtha
I think the original pub date is 1992, 2nd ed, 1997 - maʀtha
wait, hold it, there's a 1973 book with a similar yet different title - maʀtha
*tap, tap, tap* is this thing on? - maʀtha
I'm on holiday - Pete's Got To Go
Union meeting here - DJF from Android
you people - maʀtha
what am I going to have to do, ask twitter? - maʀtha
I expect MPOW doesn't have access to anything that you don't have access to already. - Catherine Pellegrino
thanks, C. - maʀtha
We have a huge summon database, 787,986,099 items, and I am only finding mentions of the 1991/92 book, no real reviews. Or, what is the title of the 1973 book? - Joe
I'm not finding anything in WOS - Hedgehog
No reviews on our instance of Summon - Pete's Got To Go
1973 is The Isthmus Zapotecs: women's roles in cultural context - Hedgehog
Here is a book review of the 1973 titles in JSTOR. Chiñas: The Isthmus Zapotecs: Women's Roles in Cultural Context (Book Review) Author: Matthiasson Journal: American anthropologist ISSN: 0002-7294 Year 09/01/1975 Volume: 77 Issue: 3 Page: 651 http://www.jstor.org/stable... - Joe
thanks, peeps! - maʀtha
Ugh, wrong book. Never mind. - kaijsa
yeah, I did that too, and sent it to the faculty person just in case, but no dice - maʀtha
No reviews in Summon or Schoogle. Looks like it's mentioned in a couple of lit reviews though - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Thanks, everyone. I think we've done what we can. - maʀtha
just seeing this now - did someone try book review digest and book review index? - Christina Pikas
nm it's not in either - Christina Pikas
okay, thank you for checking, Christina - maʀtha
Aaron the Librarian
Gadzooks, where am I going to find all you fabulous folks together online in a week?! All the oldschool tools I used to use to keep up with you are disappearing *kermitflail*
Jesús Monte Christo, I'm already missing you in advance - Aaron the Librarian
I'm going to cry. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
*flails* - maʀtha
lris
My wonderful colleague Kristin has a new paper published called "From Data to the Creation of Meaning Part II: Data Librarian as Translator" http://iassistdata.org/sites...
BOOKMARKED - RepoRat
maʀtha
ONE LAST BIG LSW HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO LISA!
John Dupuis
I posted a little post on finding some perspective regarding predatory open access journals: http://scienceblogs.com/confess...
(psst...one typo: you have general rather than generate in the SciGen paragraph) - Hedgehog
(Thanks. Sadly, I'm a terrible proofreader for my own writing.) - John Dupuis
(everyone's a bad editor of her / his own work. why … just yesterday one of my EDITOR friends used it's instead of its. I corrected him) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
On a related note, do you all think that journal hijacking as significant a problem as this J. Beall blog post suggests? http://scholarlyoa.com/other-p... - Jennifer Howard
What we don't know, and would be worth researching, is how many people are being taken for rides by scam journals and hijacked journals. NOTA BENE: people publishing in a scammy journal to artificially inflate their publication rate deserve everything they get, with the caveat that incentives in some places on the globe are still *deeply weird* and need fixing. My suspicion is that the number of truly hornswoggled people is pretty low... but I could be wrong, and it would certainly be nice to know for sure. - RepoRat
I had a faculty member have a problem verifying an article with a http://worldses.org/journals publication. The person did not get tenure at my locale. - Joe
Perspective, who needs perspective. I may have gone over to the dark side: http://scienceblogs.com/confess... - John Dupuis
Nice to see Walt Crawford on that editorial board :-p - Hedgehog
Hey, if you want to be on the editorial board of IJUST_CANT or any of the forthcoming journals, please feel free to apply in the comments! - John Dupuis
It was an honor to be named, and I'm helping to work out the special Paid Expedited Review Process for those who need publication slightly before article completion. - walt crawford
Props to RepoRat for using the word "hornswoggled." - Jennifer Howard
laura x
The Millions : Praise the Colophon: Twenty Notes on Type - http://www.themillions.com/2015...
The Millions : Praise the Colophon: Twenty Notes on Type
The Millions : Praise the Colophon: Twenty Notes on Type
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"Writers, praise the typographers and designers: our words are in their hands." - laura x from Bookmarklet
There's a lovely example of Electra, too. I forget how much I love that typeface. - laura x
Electra's nice. I'm happier with it than with the Bemboesque serifs where the x-height is just too high compared to ascenders for my liking. - RepoRat
Lovely. I wish more books had colophons; it seems to be a disappearing trait, at least in the books I read. And I frequently wonder just what that typeface is... [And I need to go back to following my own wishes...] - walt crawford
I see them all the time in books I read, but I mostly read poetry, essays, and "literary" fiction, so go figure. Anyway, I thought you'd like this, Walt. - laura x from iPhone
I see 'em a lot, but that's because O'Reilly books. *sheepish* - RepoRat
I'm guessing that if I was reading classier books (or O'Reilly), I'd see more of 'em. And since I left a colophon out of my last (x) books, I got no right to complain. - walt crawford
Not classier; just different. - laura x from iPhone
And now, in a near-complete non sequitur based loosely on Laura's comment, I'm hearing Willie Nelson, "Mama, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Cowboys." There are worse earworms. - walt crawford
John Dupuis
Open Shelf actually has some kinda funny articles in their April Fools' special issue: http://www.open-shelf.ca/april-f...
Aaron the Librarian
Ok, so it sounds like we're looking to move to thelsw.org - trying out Discourse and Commons in a Box. we should make it worth the admin's time and effort of trying them out. I nominate Blake as the main back-end orchestrator for these two instances (his subdomain recommendation sounds good, too). --- Forked from http://friendfeed.com/lsw...
I assume that everyone clicking like is a yea. Do we have any nays? Any discussion? - maʀtha
Just do it, yo. - Meg VMeg
Yeah, let's try them. The sooner we try the sooner we know if one or the other will work for us. - lris
Let's get her done. - laura x from iPhone
Yep, let's go! - Galadriel C. from Android
go team - maʀtha
i can probably lend a hand. not clear how at the moment, but my life is stuck inside systems all day, so there's probably some useful skill i can contribute. - henry
Uh... hullo, Blake? What say you? - Aaron the Librarian
10 more days... any activity on the thelsw.org domain developments? - Aaron the Librarian
Are we at the stage where we just need space on servers? Are these things that one or more of us can set up, once we have that? If so, we might need to ping Blake directly to get login info. - Meg VMeg
Has anyone emailed Blake directly about this? - Zamms
I just did. - lris
Holly's favorite Anna
"Planning for the Budget-ocalypse: The Evolution of a Serials/ER Cancellation Methodology" -- the NASIG webinar in April http://www.nasig.org/site_ev...
Apocalyptic cuts at mpow have become routine but luckily our parent institution appreciates their library so we're ok - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Wow, just $50 for a non-member? Nice. - Marie
We understand that libraries are strapped for cash, particularly when it come to travel and training funds. - Holly's favorite Anna
Galadriel C.
Does anyone here have a library subscription to Forrester Research, Inc. resources? I'm looking at their license and purchase agreement and it is a costly resource for one seat with a single username and single password. This one user has the ability to share 4 documents with non users.
Obviously, this set-up won't work for an academic library; so, I'm wondering what others might have arranged for their subscriptions. - Galadriel C.
We looked at it since our CIO bought a couple reports and we already have gartner. We found it was outrageous so didn't do it. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Nope. University Research Services Administration has a single login, but yeah, I can't begin to justify the cost from the library. - ellbeecee
Nope. - Meg VMeg
I've discovered that MIT has IP authenticated access and it looks like UMass Amherst does as well. - Galadriel C.
nay - Marie
But that MIT and UMass Amherst's access was via a University license that Forrester no longer offers. Sigh. - Galadriel C.
I hope my Business librarian never asks for it. - Holly's favorite Anna
seems like Forrester is missing out on some sales. - Christina Pikas
Apparently they did a study and they didn't "leverage" enough postgraduate usage to justify the significant discount for the university subscription model. That significant "discounted" price was still 5 figures. Just a higher 5 figure amount than the 5 figured for *one* dedicated user. - Galadriel C. from Android
Ouch. - Jen
The Business School is putting forward the funds to pay for the subscription, and since it's just one user, I'm thinking that the Business School should perhaps also negotiate the license and manage the single user access. IMO - a library's work providing access to resources should be as wide open as possible - my work, our work, should be for many. - Galadriel C.
agree with all of the above. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Fortunately, the business librarian has agreed to walk away! - Galadriel C.
I wish Forrester would care about ^^^. Because I get asked for their reports 2-3x per year. not a lot, but enough that I would pay … a small amount, commensurate with its value. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
We don't have it. - kaijsa
walt crawford
Hivemind question: I'm tempted to write a long post/short C&I essay (maybe both) on some interesting aspects of OA publishers/platforms from my perspective in scanning 6,400 of them for 2014 article counts. Mostly amusing stuff. The question: Would saying nice (or not so nice) things about a platform in these specialized terms be construed as...
...endorsement (or attack)? E.g., one publisher considered "predatory" by Mr. Predatory makes it really easy to check article counts; another, MDPI, is probably the easiest there is (but I think the "predatory" label is itself questionable there). On the other hand, there's OJS... - walt crawford
Anyway: opinions welcome. I'll be offline for an hour or 90 minutes, doing the daily degrassing & raking. - walt crawford
Sounds like a good idea to me. If you want to seem less endorsey or attacky, I think listing positive/negative features with examples would work better than listing publishers then their negative/positive features. But that's probably what you were planning on doing anyway. - John Dupuis
Hmm. No, that's not what I was planning on doing (it's a little more organized than what I had in mind), although I was thinking of a "easy/mixed/not so easy" gradation. With a big caveat that most people aren't/shouldn't be trying to count the number of articles per year, so this is a specialized view. - walt crawford
jambina
registration for the Zar Symposium is open - come talk scholarly publishing with me (and a certain FFer) http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e...
Wow...must sign up today for that. - Hedgehog
Hoorah! What am I talking about again...? Oh yes. I remember #toomuchgoingon - Cameron Neylon
Hmmmm. I wonder if I can get the kid home for a surprise trip home. And, maybe he can see grandma on her birthday. - Joe
Just turned in the registration form... - Joe
awesome! - jambina
jambina
how does the doctrine of first sale apply to donor gifts? a friend's dad gifted a bunch of movies (he is the rightsholder) and the library is charging to circulate them. if he wants to CC license them now (library has sole tangible item) and put online, can they continue to charge?
Unless they have a contract with him to the contrary, I would assume that they can do whatever they want with their tangible item. First sale is and should be very broad. I don't think they *should* continue to charge to circulate them ... but that is a different question. - Marianne
that's what i'm thinking - just double-checking since US stuffs is new. - jambina
Marianne is correct. He has no say after the fact over what the library does once the items are gifted. - lris
well i'm glad that is the same as home. merci! - jambina
de rien! - Marianne
laura x
"The University of Rochester River Campus Libraries received a $100,672 Officer’s Grant from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation to support a pilot Institute for Mid-Career Librarians in the summer of 2015. The Insitutute will advance institutional support for digital humanities by strengthening librarians’ competencies in digital scholarship." - laura x from Bookmarklet
I am sort of glad I don't work in an academic library, as I am thus disqualified from applying to this thing I wouldn't be able to go to even if I could apply. - laura x
lris
Apparently I'm the scum of the earth http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2014...
Pay no mind to the MRA. You're good peeps, Iris. - Spidra Webster
Yep. If they're angry at you, you're doing something right. - Catherine Pellegrino
I'll go one further: I see no problem with deleting that comment. - RepoRat
Or disemvowel it. - Catherine Pellegrino
I've received a few anonymous complaints in my careers. I always throw them away. - Jim #teamFFrank
Delete. Or if that's too much, disemvowel. - bentley
I think I'll just leave it. It's too ridiculous to take seriously. - lris
Good for you. - Meg VMeg from Android
I think "Rule O. Law" should be taken as seriously as...nah, I can't. The kind of commenter that gives trolls a good name. Now, if he (and I'm pretty sure it is a he) signed it "Shopping O' Venues," that would at least be interesting. - walt crawford
Where's MY troll, I ask you? - laura x from iPhone
You could email him and ask. Here's the address he left for me: ruleoflaw@mashedpotatopegasus.bollocks - lris from Android
Charming. - laura x
Hah! The joke is on him. There is no .bollocks generic top-level domain! - Joe
Wow, he really messed up, then. Now nobody can contact him. - lris
<whisper>I like mashed potatoes</> - Marie
Someone has a lot of time on their hands - maʀtha
Maybe Rule O Law would like to help me find this stupid book review I can't find. That would be useful. - maʀtha
"Stupid is as stupid does." - MoTO Boychick Devil
maʀtha
I am against the impending hivemind diaspora
what's up with the incipient thelsw.org project? - maʀtha
~Courtney F
requested usage stats from one of our vendors. now i find myself in a webinar on how to use the resource instead..... not entirely sure how that happened
aaron
weird moment of the week. I suddenly have access to google analytics of the institution repository of another library (similar to mine in domain except for the country specific part).
That was after asking for access to our repository statistics which I still can't access? BTW I checked as far as I can tell I *really* have access to that university's IR statistics it isn't a simple configuration error in the setup of our account. - aaron
lris
Copyright help please. Our Annual Fund folks want to create an illustration that would use our semi-mascot penguin as Max and a bunch of alumni as the wild things in a recreation of that iconic Where the Wild Things Are image. Does this seem like fair use to you?
Like, photoshopping people into the actual illustration? Or just recreating poses therefrom? - RepoRat
Recreating poses (context for the original image http://sumthinblue.com/wp-cont... ) - lris
Oh, and the slogan for the campaign might also be an issue: Let the Wild Rumpus Start - lris
Well, quickie four-factor examination. Nature of the work: highly creative, weighs against fair use. Nature of the use: nonprofit, but since it's for fundraising, a judge might well raise an eyebrow. Amount used: minimal, weighs toward fair use. Effect on the market: neutral to positive. So I'd say the case is pretty strong, but if Sendak's estate is litigious, you could TOTALLY see a C&D coming from them. IANAL, IANYL, TINLA. - RepoRat
IANAL either, but to me "posing as art" doesn't even raise fair use questions: It's an original creation that offers tribute to an artwork. You're not copying any portion of Sendak's image; you're creating an entirely new image that uses similar poses and costumes. But that's just me... - walt crawford
As also not a lawyer, I would call this de minimis, I think. I'd make sure to credit the inspiration for the work. FWIW, this beautiful blog: http://www.terribleyelloweyes.com/2009... posted all kinds of Wild Things Inspired art without any repercussions a few years ago, though it was before Sendak died. - Marianne
Meg VMeg
Re: http://friendfeed.com/paul... I tried to find the analog "Like" pin that @eclecticlibrarian gave me at IL2009. This is where I ended up:
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You won't even know/care what IL2009 was, but #thankspaul - Meg VMeg
I should make some more. - Holly's favorite Anna
Definitely! - Meg VMeg from Android
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Any FB groups worth being a member of?
Mr. The Jason Fleming
New mobile display cart in place
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John Dupuis
Working on something and kind of rediscovered Shit My Reviewers Say. It never gets old. http://shitmyreviewerssay.tumblr.com/
lris
Hanging out with Barbara Fister, Derrick, and Amy = absolute highlights of my conference. It's good t remember that y'all are flesh and blood people once in a while.
They're only flesh and blood once in a while? Creepy! - DJF from Android
As far as I can tell, that's true. I have not observed them being flesh and blood all of the time. - lris
I talked with Barbara and Derrick but didn't see Iris or Amy. :( :( - Marie from iPhone
I didn't see any of yall'z but i have kennel cough/conference crud/laryngitis so it's probably just as well - LibrarianOnTheLoose
Aww - lris from Android
I never saw Iris, but I comfort myself with the fact I'll see her later in April. It was nice to meet Barbara in person for a second after her panel, and ran into Derrick and Marie. Yay! - kaijsa
YvonneM
Those of you who work in academic libraries that use systems such as RefWorks--how did you overcome objections? 2 objections at MPOW are a) cost & b) differing faculty needs/preferences.
We've had RefWorks since before I got here. I don't like it. Most of the medical liaisons also have at least basic familiarity with EndNote because it's popular on this sideof campus. A few people scattered around know Zotero (me). There's a list somewhere of people in lib with expertise. We're all expected to be able to teach Refworks and we refer otherwise. - Hedgehog
I'm really skeptical about Flow and all the improvements they've promised for years that I've not seen much delivery on. ("it's coming real soon now" seems to be a common theme) - Hedgehog
Can you just do Zotero then? And if people complain, you can say "but now we can spend all that money on X!!!!" - Meg VMeg from Android
We dropped refworks because it's not worth the money and Zotero and Mendeley are both better, even their free levels than RefWorks. - DJF
We support Zotero, Mendeley and EndNote. Because those are all free for us, and we have librarians who use them (We turned Flow off, and will have to figure out how to make everyone responsible for it if we choose to turn it back on) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Are the objections to adding, removing, supporting...?? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We are also dropping RefWorks. It is powerful, but usability is poor and the whole thing is outdated and super clunky. - maʀtha
If you do systematic reviews IMO you need either full endnote (no freebie ) or refworks. Zotero and mendeley aren't enough. Unfortunately I think rw bogs down with accounts with > ~5000 records - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Why no Zotero for systematic reviews? I can't think of any functionality it's lacking at this point, compared to Endnote, when it comes to systematic reviews. Smart groups, is that it? Because you could save Advanced searches in group libraries for that: https://www.zotero.org/support... https://www.zotero.org/support... - Meg VMeg
For Zotero, you might have to figure out extra storage, maybe? - maʀtha
I always had the distinct impression refwork is a dying service and Flow is the future. Are there people really adding refworks? - aaron
Do any of those free ones do deduping? Also, any idea about Flow pricing for institutions? I miss EndNote. :( - Rachel Walden
Zotero does deduping (well, "merging") - Meg VMeg
I use Zotero personally, and we support EndNote for grad students & faculty on our campus (but I've never used it or trained on it) - ~Courtney F
We support Refworks, Flow (like Aaron, my sense is RW will go away eventually), Endnote Basic, and Mendeley. Our STEM and Health Sciences Liaisons are supporting Endnote desktop, too, but the Libraries don't provide access to that one (people have to buy their own license). We stopped supporting Zotero because we can't do everything and we have backup support from vendors on the others.... more... - kaijsa
Jen
this is godawful. I would never use it in a classroom. it's jargon piled upon jargon like Ossa upon Pelion. and just as lifeless as a couple of mountains, too. - RepoRat
Thank you, RR. I started in on it and...zzz...anyway, I trust your judgment. - walt crawford
I just ran into it - thought it was ... curious. - Jen
It's the kind of thing that gets written by people more interested in punishing library schools than actually improving education therein. - RepoRat
And Educationists. - Joe
Aaron the Librarian
Alcuni azione in una possibile nuova camera http://www.frenf.it/earlyad...
Some action in a possible new room on http://www.frenf.it/earlyad... - Aaron the Librarian
~Courtney F
Kanopy - opinions, thoughts?
We have it. When I get back to work, I'll ask my colleagues for thoughts. - Stephen Francoeur from Android
I liked it when we trialed it, except the part where you're only purchasing a 1- to 3-year license instead of perpetual access. - JffKrlsn
I'm having an issue with licensing single videos that have multi-year terms that begin/end on different dates. - Marie
We had it for a one year pilot and will likely revisit it. I like perpetual access in theory, but the work of Annie Erdmann, Simmons, and folks at UMass Amherst show that usage of purchased DVDs and streaming collections drops drastically after a short time. 3 years if I recall correctly. So I've been pondering the benefits of offering non-static leased streams vs. static purchased... more... - Galadriel C. from Android
We have a bit of stuff on Kanopy and the short-term model works for us. We often find we don't need something a few years after the original request. - Megan loves summer
Just got it. Does seem that useful in my area - Accountancy - aaron
Shibboleth access has been pretty reliable. MARC records available for titles in some packages but mysteriously not for others, which is a significant discovery weakness. - Deborah Fitchett
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