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For the complete LSW tagline please refer to the print edition. [tagline approved by committee, see minutes for vote]
laura x
Okay, folks. It exists. Please populate. Damn You Auto Suggest -
Okay, folks. It exists. Please populate. Damn You Auto Suggest
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"or Primo Knows Best. Auto-suggest failures from library catalogs and databases." - laura x from Bookmarklet
Happy to contribute! - Zamms
Laura, you are a treasure. - kaijsa
Hey Laura, can I send you a revised Berlin All graphic? Just noticed my kid's name mentioned it so I want to crop it a little. - Zamms
And now it is also automatically fed into the LSW room. Heeeeeeeeeeee - lris
Well played! - Zamms
Zamms, yes, please do--or just go ahead and submit it and I'll delete the other one. - laura x
I found the avatar by searching for search fail, licensed for reuse with modification on Google images: - laura x
"yoga poses" and "otitis externa" just made me guffaw at the reference desk. Damn you, Auto-Suggest! - Catherine Pellegrino
This is just so awesome. - Galadriel C.
Oh darn. Can't recreate my favorite. They turned of suggest globally in our ebscohost. Oh wait - publib! - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Delightful. - Marie
I am sending this link to MPOW's cataloger. *evil chuckle* - Catherine Pellegrino
I love this so much. - Meg VMeg
This definitely goes in my best thing ever file. - Megan loves summer
related, in a weird way: - RepoRat
I don't know if I did it right but I tried submitting. PQ took this exact title New Research Center Aims to Develop Second Generation of Surgical Robots and wanted to change aims to maims :) - Christina Pikas
Oh phooey. I need to get it to email me when people submit so I remember to post them. :) - laura x from iPhone
Turns out, we might be getting Primo. Soon I'll be a contributor. - lris from Android
Gave this to my coworker who is doing a little comparative research on discovery systems . she was much amused - Hedgehog
Deborah Fitchett
Anyone want to come to New Zealand and be my boss? (University Librarian/Director of Library, Teaching and Learning: Also, what are non-NZ venues where we should be advertising this?
ALA Job List - Aaron the Librarian
(also, that would be teh excellent adventure - but Miss14 would kill me (after she toured Middle Earth) for pulling her away from her settling-down HS life - Aaron the Librarian
I'm assuming ALIA as one place... - Walt Crawford
Thanks! - Deborah Fitchett
ARL's career page, if they'll let you. Maybe the Chronk or Inside Higher Ed if it's affordable. - RepoRat and UToronto FIS job list - jambina
Maybe a JISC list ? LIS-LINK or LIS-PROFESSION? - Megan loves summer
Tweeted :) - Katie
Seems like we haven't done a random poll in a while, so. Author, artist, musician, or other creator that you like but someone important in your life can't stand?
Kate Rusby. Don't ask me why, but the huz just cannot with her. Whereas he is forbidden from playing Led Zep in my presence because NOPE. - RepoRat
is it because led zeppelin sings about hobbits and shit? - kendrak
I just can't stand 'em, no matter what they're screaming about. - RepoRat
Although I don't listen to his ditties much anymore either, I'm afraid it's Johann Sebastian Bach; my wife finds him far too repetitive. - Walt Crawford
my husband hates jazz. all jazz. even jazz influences in other genres. except the occasional band that he doesn't believe is jazz no matter how many times i insist on it. meanwhile half my cd collection is jazz. good thing we mostly overlap-or-are-indifferent otherwise. - Marianne
I am kinda the jazz hater in my relationships. To be fair, I don't hate ALL jazz, just the experimental/freeform/super noodle-y stuff. So basically the stuff people who love jazz often love the most. - kaijsa
My mother hates Tori Amos. In better news, though, I seem to be converting Peter into a Dylan fan. - laura x
Uck, Tori Amos. Maybe I'm just a hater in general. A long-term bf of mine from my 20s was into Primus. I was like, NOPE. - kaijsa
i don't think there's anything musically, though i hate books and he's an avid reader. he also hates soccer. - kendrak
I get a lot of ribbing at home about my enjoyment of "middle aged/older women solving murders" television (Murder She Wrote, Agatha Christie, Rosemary and Thyme, etc) but he'll sit through them. - Hedgehog
heeeeeeeeey Rosemary and Thyme is awesome. - RepoRat
I love a lady sleuth myself. - kaijsa
My guy digs Tom Waits like whoa but all I hear is screeching and moaning. - Marie
I can't think of anything of mine that C truly can't stand, but he can listen to his Jethro Tull SOMEPLACE ELSE DEAR GOD. - Catherine Pellegrino from iPod
You all can have the lady sleuth party and I will have the Jethro Tull/Tom Waits/Led Zeppelin party. On vinyl. - laura x from iPhone
Well, they now theoretically know the differences between stats and data, and how to search for stats. Their painfully long homework assignment will tell the tale though (prepping a single session + 1 homework for this was exhausting!)
Help! Suppose I wanted to create a digital archive that included photographs of people in another culture. Suppose I went out and took their pictures as they farmed their land or something (they know I'm taking the picture). At what point do I need legal waivers?
From what I can tell so far, I'm ok if I don't use the person's likeness to promote anything. But IANAL - lris
Knowing you, you would probably like a link to actual laws. I don't have that, but this page sums things up pretty well in a poorly-cited kind of way: When you say "another culture," though, I wonder about other countries' laws regarding privacy. - Steele Lawman
and different cultures may oppose the very taking of the photo, etc. (not sure where you guys are with moral rights in the US, but this would fall under it in a lot of ways). - jambina
I'm totally going to regret trying to find Burmese privacy laws, aren't I.... - lris
oh my yes - jambina
is this for you, or a student? If a student, their prof might have some things to say about cultural rights practices, aside from law. Especially if this is anthropology. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan from YouFeed
My understanding is that "moral rights" aren't part of US law, and people in public have no expectation of privacy. - Steele Lawman
i think it might also depend on what you were going to do with the images after they went into the archive. #NotAnArchivist - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I went with "I am not a lawyer... maybe you should consult one?" - lris
always a safe choice! - RepoRat
Well, in this particular case, if he gets things wrong people could actually be killed. I'd prefer he doesn't make decisions based on a librarian's guesses. - lris
yeah, totally fair - RepoRat
laura x
Not a newsflash, but seriously, the Library as Incubator Project are awesome.
yes, yes they are :) - RepoRat
laura x
Greetings from the Iowa Library Association conference, where conference wifi continues to have the problems it did the last time I went to a conference in 2010.
Dr. Who references are not really hitting home with this audience. - laura x from iPhone
FDR references, however, are a hit. - laura x from iPhone
Exec board candidates are making statements that end "so vote for me or any of the other fine candidates." - laura x from iPhone
That's reminiscent of both times I ran for LITA president: running against a friend--both before and after the election---and if we'd had statements I'm sure that how we'd end them. - Walt Crawford
If there is any state that should know about how to run a campaign, it's Iowa. - Andy
laura x
My book is in 100 libraries.
That is a great accomplishment! - Steve C Team Marina
I do find the wording of this URL interesting... - Joe
this book contains 'unexpected Laura Crossett' ;-) - Marina's Godmother :-)
Checked out 7 times here! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
No one expects Laura Crossett, surprise is her greatest weapon. - Blake
I know at least one library that has it that is not in worldcat. - Katy S from iPhone
*wonders who will play him in movie version* what? it could happen ... FF could be a kind of pseudo Greek Chorus - MoTO: Team Marina
Katy, yup, my library has it and isn't in Worldcat. I assume there are others. - laura x from iPhone
So I think you could safely say "my book is in 100 PLUS libraries." - Regular Amanda
...and no MINUS libraries! - Aaron the Librarian
And it's on my kindle. I checked Wyldcat to verify that only 4 WY libraries have it, and it's true. BAD FORM, Wyoming librarians. - kaijsa
John Dupuis
Perhaps not so relevant to non-Canadians, but Myron Groover's evisceration of the Canadian Library Association is well worth reading.
"Useful idiots" is the term that comes to mind. - John Dupuis
Not being Canadian, I won't comment, except to wonder whether this has anything to do with the apparent fact that the OLA SuperConference is much larger than CLA's conference (or am I wrong about that?). - Walt Crawford
OLA is much bigger than CLA, maybe 4 or 5 times bigger. Neither association is that big on strong policy statements (nor is CARL for that matter) so I'm not sure how much that plays into it. I not sure I have a particularly clear idea why the size differential is so big, other than the fact OLA is in Toronto every year while CLA travels around, often to much smaller cities. Not far off 1/3 of Canada's population is within a day's drive/bus/train of Toronto. - John Dupuis
Thanks, John. Not only the conference but the association? [I could be involved with other CLAs, but I gave up on the one serving more people and a whole lot closer to me a long, LONG time ago.] - Walt Crawford
I don't know about the associations' relative size. - John Dupuis
The one time I went to OLA, several different people told me that one of the reasons it's bigger than CLA is that CLA has its head up its ass. Not, um, in exactly those words. - RepoRat
RR: Well, yeah, I heard similar things the one time I went to OLA. (Technically, I've been to CLA one time as well, but only because of the joint ALA/CLA annual conference in Toronto. It was hard to detect CLA's influence on the conference...) - Walt Crawford
After a little checking: CLA has--good grief--1,279 members (959 personal) out of a population of 35.5 million, while OLA has more than 5,000 members out of a population of 13.4 million. (By comparison, ALA has about 57,000 members out of 318 million U.S. population. So OLA is proportionally larger, but CLA is...well...) - Walt Crawford
I could say bad things about another CLA, the one I should theoretically be involved in (in a state with somewhat more people than Canada), but I gave up on it many years ago, and can't readily find its membership. If I had to guess, I'd say "more than Canada LA and a lot less than OLA." - Walt Crawford
Oof. Yeah, given those numbers I'm hard-pressed to explain why CLA exists. (I don't understand why there are THREE state library association conferences in Wisconsin, either.) - RepoRat
What are the three? Ohio has academics separate from others, but then lots of states have school librarians separate from others. (I'm convinced that one reason TxLA is the world's third largest library conference is that it's managed to keep all segments of the library field in one big association. I'm guessing Colorado's done better since it reunited the segments...) - Walt Crawford
Need I add: The world's two largest library conferences are, respectively, ALA Annual and ALA Midwinter. - Walt Crawford
There may be years in which OLA SuperConference beats TxLA to be the third largest... but I think TxLA's been running 6,000 and up. Both conferences are energizing and a bit frenetic, although that comment is based on a sample of one for OLA and three for TxLA. - Walt Crawford
Did a little more looking. Calif. LA has about 3,000 members (out of a population of 39 million), and the 2014 conference is being held in a hotel with around 450 rooms; TxLA has about 7,000 members (pop. 26 million), and the 2015 conference is being held in a convention center (as are they all) with multiple hotels for housing. - Walt Crawford
Galadriel C.
For those of you who have or are implementing Alma - How have you migrated you e-journals Knowledge Base to Alma? We're going from SerialsSolutions to Alma. So far, there's a spreadsheet we could fill in line-by line of resources/titles/holdings, but we're really hopeful that some automated manner of migrating data is possible.
(liking so i can find responses again) - weelibrarian
Well that sounds awful. Keep us posted. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Much of the Alma migration utilizes such spreadsheets. Can you extract data from SS in the format you need? - Jen
We were on SFX, so didn't have to do that, but yeah, I'd try downloading the info from SS and going from there. - Kirsten
It seems like I had heard that SS can send you the data in a spreadsheet format that you can then send to Alma. - ~Courtney F
We can extract a spreadsheet out of SS, but because Alma and SS use different names for resources (e.g. "EBSCO Academic Search Premier" vs. "Academic Search Premier") it becomes much more complicated -- a very manual process that utterly baffles me as in how can this not be more automated? Ex Libris is saying we have to complete their spreadsheet and that they can't do anything with the SS spreadsheet. Courtney do you know/are you able to share more about Alma doing something w/ the SS spreadsheet? - Galadriel C. from Android
Hey Galadriel - have you been over to to the Alma FF room? Deborah I think migrated from SS and may have help for you. Migrating to Alma is not a very pleasant process. I hear that life on the other side is good though. - Jen
I can in fact tell you a heap about how we did this and what to avoid and what problems can't be avoided. Might get a bit longwinded for here, unless everyone else is interested too, but email me - deborah.fitchett at probably the best address for this one. - Deborah Fitchett
Deborah - can you post to the Alma room? - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Just the fact that there is an FF Alma room makes me feel a little better :-) Deborah, I will *definitely* be in touch!!! - Galadriel C.
(How does one get to the Alma room? I searched groups w/o luck.) - Galadriel C.
G- I sent you an invite - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Jaclyn, can do. - Deborah Fitchett
Got it; thank you! - Galadriel C. from Android
I don't know which is worse, complex copyright scenarios or figuring out new health insurance options. This afternoon was chalk full of both.
I would rather do teh Copyright questions - Insurance is sufficiently advanced as to be magic to me - Aaron the Librarian
Not "chock full"? - LB put a spell on you. from Android
That too. - lris from Android
laura x
For a friend: recommendations for an almost 12 year old boy whose dad is choosing his new wife over his kids and generally absconding with parenting responsibilities. Good reader, likes books, etc.
I assume a molotov cocktail is not what we're looking for, here. - barbara fister
I also assume it's not much comfort that Huckleberry Finn's father is a nightmare. - barbara fister
anything rick yancey--alfred kropp series, monstrolugist, 5th wave series, piers anthony xanth series--early books at least. - Sir Shuping is just sir
Little Brother by Cory Doctorow is good. I haven't read Homeland yet but it also got good reviews. His In Real Life graphic novel also seems good. - John Dupuis
Barbara, the molotov cocktail is so tempting. But yeah, probably not quite what we're looking for. - laura x
this series of books my my yoga teacher's husband are pretty good: The Nine Pound Hammer (Book, 2009) [] - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Trouble with Cory Doctorow's books is that his parents are so awesome. At least real, and there. Well worth reading, though (just still pondering the "books to help out a kid who's father is absent." ) - barbara fister
The rangers apprentice series might be good, I think justin went through that about age 9-11 or so. - Joe
Kids that age often love Riordan's Percy Jackson series, but since one of the problems for Percy and his friends is that their dads are VERY much crappy absconders (being gods and all...) It might be too on the nose. - Marianne
This Boy's Life, Tobias Wolff? (Edit: That's probably too old for him. I was looking at this list: ) - Steele Lawman
Is he willing to read books with female protagonists? I just finished Rain, Reign and it has a horrendous father (and a very good uncle). It might skew too young, though. Sure Signs of Crazy by Harrington is good. Stroud's Bartimaeus books are good if he likes fantasy, as are Sage Blackwood's Jinx books. Zebra Forest is good if her prefers more realistic fiction. If he can handle books... more... - Katy S
(Threadjack: I've actually met Doctorow's parents and they are awesome. Jewish Toronto is a pretty small place and Cory's dad went to school with my wife's cousin's husband. I've met them at a couple of birthday parties, etc.) - John Dupuis
John, I wonder if you know my family, then. David & Rebecca Harris? (Despite the last name, I'm actually related to Rebecca, on my mom's side.) - Laura
I don't think so, but I'll have to ask my wife, who's my connection into the Toronto Jewish community. - John Dupuis
Absolutely True Diary because it's worth reading? Also love Flight which is aobut a really messed-up teen which has a (spoiler alert) insanely hopeful and happy ending and i love that subversive gesture. It's also just phenomenally an ode to empathy in the face of painful history. - barbara fister
Portable Childhoods - Ellen Klages; One Is One - Barbara Leonie Picard - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
Speaking of Ellen Klages, Green Glass Sea and White Sands, Red Menace are both great historicals set around the Manhattan Project. - John Dupuis
I've noticed everyone in the Chrestomanci series have absent parents and/or treacherous uncles... - Deborah Fitchett
My Side of the Mountain - maʀtha
The Green Book by Walsh. - maʀtha
Do you have a label maker that you love? What make/model is it, please?
but of course! I like the old-school style though. mine's a DYMO 1540 Office Mate II. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Did they ever have Jimmie Walker do commercials for them? 'cause they should have. Dymo-MATE! - bentley
We are using the Zebra, but I haven't figured out how to send multiple labels to it yet, otherwise it seems to work fine - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
Dymo LetraTag - Melly - #TeamMarina
We just got the Dymo LabelWriter 450 for spine labels. - Deborah Fitchett
If you were going to introduce someone to David Foster Wallace's writing, with which book/essay would you begin?
I would start with the cruise essay and/or the state fair essay ("A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again" and "Getting Away from Already Being Pretty Much Away from It All") If they don't think those are funny/engaging, they probably won't like most of his work. - Steele Lawman
Seconding the cruise essay. - Meg VMeg
I really like the tennis essays, but I don't know that those would be a good intro for people who don't know the sport. Also, good list here: - Kirsten
Cruise essay, for sure. - laura x from iPhone
Just got the "Supposedly Fun..." book at our Library Book Sale, and any really any of the essays are good introductions. - Elizabeth Brown
The first thing I read by him was "The Depressed Person", and it totally slayed me, but that's probably a risky first read. - JffKrlsn from Android
I second the recommendation of either the cruise essay or state fair essays. I got into his writing in a completely different way but I think those would be good choices for those who never read him. - MariWeaver
If you go to the Harper's site, they want you to be a subscriber to get access to the first-published forms of those stories. But if you use the googles, you can find them free on Harper's blog: Here is "Ticket to the Fair" (later "Getting Away from Already Being Pretty Much Away from It All" (I think I messed that up earlier)):... more... - Steele Lawman
^ nice, thanks. - Marie
My attempts to buy a mailing list keep going south. Do any of you have suggestions for obtaining quality email lists for Deans-Liberal Arts, or Provosts, at all 4 year degree granting and above universities?
Holly's favorite Anna
I'm looking for someone based in the US who could do a workshop like this one:
Marie? Galadriel? - Holly's favorite Anna
That sounds fun (esp if G and I did it together). At what venue did you have in mind? - Marie
Ooh. Can I get in on this? - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Maybe a panel? If so, I would be interested, too. - Joe
we have the best community ever, just sayin'. - Marie
Not a panel. Workshop. No more than two leaders for the sake of logistics and fitting everything into 4 hours with a break, and it would be a post-conference for NASIG in late May. And... I totally understand if G doesn't want to do it, given that. - Holly's favorite Anna
A great community indeed! I love the concept of this workshop, it's really needed and fantastic - I can't commit right now, but will think about it for sure! - Galadriel C.
Ah if only 2 then Marie & G should go for it. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Oh rats, I'll be out of the country at the end of May (hopefully). - Marie
Anna - what's you time frame? - Galadriel C.
I'd like to get a commitment nailed down in the next few weeks, as I'm planning to use our workshops as additional promotion for the call for concurrent session proposals ("come speak at our conference! see, we have awesome content you can add to!). But, that doesn't mean I need a fully fleshed out workshop program by then. Just a commitment to doing it. - Holly's favorite Anna
Jennifer Leffler on Twitter has also expressed an interest. - Holly's favorite Anna
I want to watch!! also: LSW meetup opportunity!! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
If you're stuck, please allow me to recommend Taryn Resnick, head of e-resources at MfPOW. She's sharp! - RepoRat
If any of you who have expressed interested can get me a proposal in the next few weeks, do it. :) - Holly's favorite Anna
May I pass this on to Taryn? - RepoRat
Please do! - Holly's favorite Anna
BTW, anybody who is interested in proposing something, contact me at anna dot creech at the gmails. I really want to make this workshop happen! - Holly's favorite Anna
*bump* - Marie
Aaron the Librarian
Academic Librarians - Are you following YikYak?
? clearly not... - ellbeecee
what the heck is yikyak? - Sir Shuping is just sir
Who in the what now? - Catherine Pellegrino from iPod
I checked it out earlier this year and then uninstalled it after a few days. Creepy place full of douchey bros. Not a cool place. Lots of k-12 schools are banning it because of the heartache it can cause. For example: When I tried it in Manhattan, I found tons of awful posts from NYU and Columbia students. - Stephen Francoeur
good lord. based on that article, wouldn't touch it with the proverbial ten-foot pole. - RepoRat
oh crap...i did hear about yikyak and blocked it out of my mind because the early press on it was so poor, much of the same reasons for what occurred in the article stephen linked to - Sir Shuping is just sir
Yep. What I see when I'm at home (local high schools, other colleges) is different than what I see at work. It's interesting/useful to see what's going on when they're having real dialogue there, but the high school age stuff is abhorrent. - Julie Kane
Tl;dr me about this, please? - Marie
YikYak is an app that uses your device location to show you anonymous posts by people in your vicinity (not sure of the range, maybe a few miles or so). You can post your own anonymous comments. - Stephen Francoeur
Merci - Marie from iPhone
I am now. Second post is a vulgar joke that mentions the library. - Steele Lawman
I can't even handle monitoring mentions on Twitter, I'm pretty sure this will kill me. - Meg VMeg
I downloaded to check it out. It's somewhat amusing. - Andy
I just checked it out. Two posts I could intervene in, but a whole lot of tedium, annoyance, and way too much blowjob advice. Still trying to figure out if it's worth spending time there in the building.... I'm also wondering if my commenting (Hey, just sent a building monitor to shush that noise!) will be seen as helpful or creepy. Because being seen as the creepy one on YiKYak would be pretty awful? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
But you're being creepy anonymously, so nobody knows it's you specifically. ;) - kaijsa
If you want to know when people are having sex in the library, there's an app for that - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Took a look. Not going back. - John Jackson from iPhone
I look at it occasionally. I'd check it more if it had a search function so I could search for library mentions...unless it does, and I just don't realize it. - YvonneM
I am not an academic librarian, but I do read it here occasionally. Iowa kids are actually remarkably sweet probably 80% of the time. Once in awhile they're very funny. The rest of the time they are racist sexist assholes, but I was expecting that to be most of the posts, so I was pleasantly surprised. - laura x
Today they are tired, have advice about how you should make sure you have lots of time to sleep if you take Tylenol PM, lest you miss class and Michelle Obama, are unsure of how to tell people they like them, and have discovered, by means of pH strip, that a pumpkin spice latte is basic. Also one said "whoa, I should go to the library more often! I actually studied." - laura x
"Basic" is relatively recent slang for me. So I looked it up on Urban Dictionary (because I am old and librarian) and found that the definition there is 8 years old. I'm so basic. - Steele Lawman
Well, you know, I'm so basic I am down with any joke made at the expense of a pumpkin spice latte. - laura x
Tried it. Not big here. Picked up only stuff from international schools. - aaron from Flucso
Walt Crawford
I am so tempted to comment on this post, "I fear you are misusing the term 'gentleman' by applying it to Dan Kleinman." But that would just cause more trouble:
Then again, police often refer to pepetrators who murdered several people and then kicked a puppy as "gentleman," e.g. "we arrested the gentleman just as he was attempting to detonate a dirty bomb." I think it may be a passive-aggression badge. - barbara fister
...I thought police used "individual" in that sense. As though an "individual" is not quite a "person." - Catherine Pellegrino
"Individual" is also nicely gender-neutral. I'd love to see police use "gentleperson" to refer to vicious criminals, but I'm not going to hold my breath. - Walt Crawford
This guy (Kleinman) makes me feel UNsafe. - YvonneM
Honestly, some of you are being mean. Walt, why do you say I'm not a gentleman? Do you know me? Yvonne, why do I make you feel UNsafe? Have I ever met you? You are in the free speech, equal access profession, yes? Professor Nana makes flat out false and misleading statements about me, out of the blue, I find them and respond and she blocks my responses, posts one derisively, then posts... more... - Dan Kleinman
I know your track record for attacking OIF (and one of the finest librarians I know), for pushing censorship via filtering, for all of that. Oddly enough, I don't see any call here for "censorship...against the right people." And as for your tweet, obviously it wasn't "behind your back" if you read this. Sorry, Dan, but you've always been a troll, and I don't see that changing. - Walt Crawford
[I started to reply to DK's tweet about me saying "mean things behind his back" in a public forum he obviously was able to find, but that violates the rule even further. You know the rule: Don't feed the trolls.] - Walt Crawford
Is calling him a doosh feeding him? Just checking. - David Rothman (☤) from Android
There are trolls in Iceland who will get very pissed off if you route your road over their dwelling. These are not human trolls, though, and they use means other than the Internet to get even. Icelandic road builders do try to be nice to them though. Because that's how Icelanders work (unless fish are involved, which means WAR. or Þorskastríðin!!!) - barbara fister
barbara: Whereas around here a troll is used (at least on the Bay Bridge) for protection: - Walt Crawford
Note that, while the original was installed surreptitiously, the new one was deliberately crafted and installed with, presumably, the approval of The Authorities. - Walt Crawford
Oh, the DK stories I could tell... - Andy
Could you tell some of us in dm mode? I don't know much background. - Joe
May not be needed. Gish Galloping along in the comments of which has some Andy posts. - Joe
On the troll and bridges thread, there's this charmer in Seattle. - barbara fister
As for the road-routing in Iceland, I heard this from an Icelandic writer who loves American highways but would neither confirm nor deny that trolls exist. Just that Icelanders generally respect their space. - barbara fister
Check thyself lest thee wreck thyself. - YvonneM
Does anyone have an invite code for #RiseUp email?
Steele Lawman
Reading about copyright law always makes me feel like a cranky toddler because I want things to be EASY and FUN and centered around MY DESIRES! But instead they are DUMB and COMPLICATED!
I just want to use what I want when I want it. JEEZ. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
^^ THIS - Steele Lawman
Copyright is like wedding cake. Yeah sure it could be simple but wouldn't it awesome to be put some flowers, ribbons, little figures, a couple of extra layers, some extra tiers, maybe a fruity filling oooo let's get some columns on there wedding guests love columns. - Andy
And let's make it six times as big as anyone will actually eat! - RepoRat
Eat cake. EAT CAKE!! - Steele Lawman
I find it perversely fascinating. A nifty and fairly simple 18th century idea that went Hollywood. Millions of dollars on spectacle, special effects, and vapidity. - barbara fister
Oh, and lobbyists and graft. Lobbyists v. Hobbyists: Return of the Wedding Cake from Hell. - barbara fister
I'm with Steve. - laura x
Thinking I need a better way to explain OA to faculty. Struggling to get past: "I must publish in x journal, don't tell me to publish in cut-rate journals." It's a start though.
is there a way past that? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
What field? Some are pretty open minded (no pun intended). And lots of journals allow self-archiving. Sounds like a) why the hell should I care? and b) I know nothing about OA yet have opinions because FUD. - barbara fister
you need to do a lot of mythbusting in this business. - jambina
Maybe the trick is to figure out who is a big name in their favorite area who has said smart things about OA. Or have faculty who have published OA and organize a cage match. - barbara fister
I like to tell the story about the paper that got dropped from a textbook because the original journal publisher said no - DJF from Android
I like the idea of finding faculty who have published OA and organizing a cage match :) - Jen
Shoving the explanation onus back on them can sometimes help. "Wow, where'd you hear THAT was necessary?" - RepoRat
Maybe respond with something like, "a journal that can be read and cited by many more scholars than the journal of x is considered to be of higher usefulness (not cut-rate). You can also much more easily track downloads of your work." - Joe
bust. the. myth. why do they think it's cut-rate? if it's cuz OA - well that's a business model with no effect on peer review. BUT be ready to say it's cut-rate, even if it is OA, if it's, ya know, cut-rate. but then talk about why it's craptastic and how that is independent of OA. - jambina
Do not mention the be all. - Joe
Found myself almost going there - to be all - but thankfully corrected course before it was too late. - Jen
Does anyone have advice for talking to one's colleagues about over-reliance on be all linkage? The infamous list comes up all the time at MPOW in OA discussions - Megan loves summer
Maybe recommend the publishers that are in oaspa as a positive list? But, that is certainly not comprehensive. I think oaspa had kicked some of the less reputable pubs. - Joe
Do any LSWers have an ER&L proposal they would like to suggest we consider supporting?
Ours isn't showing up! - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Introduction to Usus (me and some other folks from the Supervisory Board) - Holly's favorite Anna
After some quick work by Sandy, we're on: Libraries and Family: Is the Academic Library Community Supporting You? (I know, it's not a usual ER&L topic, which is sort of why we did it). - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Migrating to Intota: Updates and Dispatches from the Front (the speaker is pretty awesome and definitely on the front lines of this...and I may have suggested the subtitle in a late night phone call yesterday) - Holly's favorite Anna
Quick, somebody get me an "I voted" sticker! - Marie
MAPing Scopus and Web of Science: Using Massive Amounts of Data for Collection Analysis (And thank you Marie for inquiring!) - Galadriel C.
Melissa M
Spreading the word...Host a "Mornings in Jenin" book group this January as part of Librarians and Archivists with Palestine's "One Book, Many Communities" project:
Looks like the GSU shit is well and truly hitting the fan.
Start at Page 110 for the "In Summary" --- Ooof. So, now what happens? - Hedgehog
My read of the close: "Accordingly, we REVERSE the judgment of the District Court. We VACATE the injunction, declaratory relief, and award of fees and costs to Defendants, and REMAND for further proceedings consistent with this opinion. SO ORDERED" is that GSU gets to pay its own lawyers and GSU did not infringe on the 5 works specified as infringing in the origial decision. How does everyone else read that? - Aaron the Librarian
Now the lower court gets to reconsider the whole case based on the findings in this opinion. Which are... pretty scary, as I read 'em. GSU does not get its court costs paid, that is correct. We do not know at this point whether GSU infringed, and if they did, how often and how badly; that's what the lower court now has to reconsider. But I believe all charges (except the ones where the plaintiffs couldn't prove they held copyright) are back in play. - RepoRat
Kevin Smith just posted about it as well: - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm not sure where the appelate court gets that the four factors should not be given equal weight... how else would one effectively apply them? While the statute says uses should be evaluated individually, that does not imply the factors should be given different weights for different works. - Aaron the Librarian
you have to apply all four factors holistically based on the facts of the case. those facts may and usually do imply that individual factors weigh more or less heavily. it's... complicated. - RepoRat
as for "different works," essentially you can think of this as several dozen individual copyright-infringement cases with the same plaintiffs and defendants being decided in the same proceeding. that's essentially what it is. - RepoRat
I want a workable mechanistic system! (as long as it goes in my favor) :) - Aaron the Librarian
Oh. Great. </sarcastic> - Joe
Aaron: It's my impression that workable mechanistic systems will work in your favor as soon as you change your name to Copyright Clearance Center. Otherwise, maybe not so much. - Walt Crawford
In case you haven't seen Nancy Sims's rundown: - Megan loves summer
Just catching up on this. Nancy's take on it is much more optimistic than some other things I've been reading. This definitely raises some questions for me though about practical implications. It is already so hard to write a decent policy for e-reserves, and while I'm glad they reject the Classroom Copyright Guidelines, it is so hard to implement a practical e-reserve policy without some bright lines. - Freeda B.
I'm not as optimistic as Nancy and Kevin either. Seems to me this points us straight to the ugly hole that Canada is struggling to climb out of with Access Copyright. Freeda's worry is also salient: where there are no bright lines, the tendency is to be risk-averse. - RepoRat
Meanwhile faculty will post stuff to their CMSs without giving any thought to copyright and who's going to prevent (not present -former typo) them doing that or sending article by email or whatever works? Because very few of them see much connection between copyright decision making and putting a scanned book chapter into their course space. One of these things seems natural. - barbara fister
Until another publisher lawsuit successfully compels discovery of what's posted to the CMS... IANAL, but if I were a publisher that'd be the next thing I'd try for. - RepoRat
Then they'll have to start compelling access to faculty email because that will be the next workaround. Whack-a-fac. - barbara fister
My bet would be on a public faculty insurrection, actually; many won't think of email because they've imprinted on CMSes. Not to mention that this would make a mess of already-built courses. - RepoRat
I've summed things up from my perspective: - lris
*thanks Iris* Also this: "One option would be to have classroom instructors attach something like this as a cover sheet with anything they submit for eReserves." would make faculty even LESS likely to actually use ereserves. *sigh* - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
also, just because I like saying it: FFS - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I guess I'm not too worried about whether faculty use ereserves. They SHOULD be doing this whenever they copy stuff, but of course we know how likely that will be. - lris
(Interesting ... the big publishing houses just landed on my blog. I wonder what they'll think of it.) - lris
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Has anyone tried rewarding patrons who actually stop and come back to the desk when they set of the alarm?
what would you reward them with? it is a neat idea ... - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
something like a sticker/button "I <3 books @" with local library branding.. I wouldn't reward with something of monetary value or you might get people trying to set off the gate on purpose - Mr. The Jason Fleming
I miss the old AL Direct format.
Me, too. They end up in my spam folder now because of the ads. Same with ACRL Update. - kaijsa
i actually get the new one consistently; the old one went to spam probably 80% of the time. - holly #ravingfangirl
I guess all of our email programs vex us in different ways. - kaijsa
Job posting: Come work for the Tretter Collection as a project lead for the Transgender Oral History Project - Tretter Collection, UMN. Please share widely.
can you tweet this so I can RT it? - RepoRat
tweeted earlier today - maʀtha
Shared with our WGSS department - they have a good network with their majors, including alums. - Jen
thank you! - maʀtha
Meg VMeg
Shot in the dark: do any of your users save proxy info in their browsers? And if so, do they ever have trouble with access to certain publishers crapping out?
Do you mean that they've configured the browser settings for proxying or do you mean they've bookmarked URLs? If the latter, are the URLs in those bookmarks the proxified URLs or the ones from the publisher? - Stephen Francoeur
The former. They set it up so that it automatically connects to something like and then save their login/password. Here's an example of the instructions: - Meg VMeg
Oh, then that would be a no for me. Sorry. - Stephen Francoeur
Papers, Mendeley, Zotero all can cache proxy information and I think all sometimes crap out? - Christina Pikas
Apparently, other academic disciplines have wikis listing job openings, who applies, who interviews, and word-on-the-street about the program. I am unaware of anything about that for acaLibraries, but suspect there probably is one. Do you all know of anything like this?
Not that I'm aware of, no... - Hedgehog
No clue. - kaijsa
In part, I was thinking there must be, because the pools for searches here are so weak, and there must be word-on-the-street about us (that I would like to see). - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
It's definitely challenging for us to recruit, especially compared to universities in more urban areas, but we get pretty good applicant pools (even though our pay is low) not totally limited to fresh grads (who are often great, just green). It surprises me that in this market you're not getting decent applicant pools. I've heard good things about UNR. - kaijsa
Yeah, me too. I don't think the City of Reno is enough of a turn-away for the low response rate and qualifications we tend to get. Reputation was my next guess (I don't have a third....) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Sounds a little too organized for librarians :P - Meg VMeg
Galadriel C.
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