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For the complete LSW tagline please refer to the print edition. [tagline approved by committee, see minutes for vote]
John Dupuis
For those that are interested, my review of The Machiavellian Librarian: Winning Allies, Combating Budget Cuts, and influencing Stakeholders:
Christina Pikas
What methods do people teach in the social sciences for evaluating things that are not exactly scholarly journals but aren't exactly magazines like The Economist?
So like Foreign Affairs? - JffKrlsn from Android
Yeah- like that. Some of these are well know. To be biased but how to train newbies? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Or how to understand it oneself? It's a big issue in poli sci because of the need to publish quickly. - JffKrlsn from Android
I think some basics apply to all sources, and they're more rhetorical analysis than anything: who wrote this? who was the audience? what evidence is provided? does the argument it provides make sense? is this source likely to be a persuasive one for my readers for this particular writing purpose or should I drill deeper? I could evaluate a Tweet that way! :) - barbara fister
barbara fister
That's so funny! It's a joke, right? Right?
*eyeroll* - RepoRat
Liebert Open Access will let you read this article for $424. - barbara fister
ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-- - RepoRat
Also comical: GS alerts says a piece of mine is cited. If so, it's probably by someone who didn't read it. (I wrote a critique of crime fiction using "copycat crimes" in the title, but it was about crime fiction not about actual, you know, crime. - barbara fister
*snort* - Marie
Not to be all wet-blanket here, but I think the "Liebert Open Access Options and Benefits" thing is actually a banner ad, not something that's intended to indicate that the article displayed on the page is, in fact, available open access. When I clicked on it, it took me to a page that explained the publisher's "author pays for OA" model. Not to take away from the horribleness of the... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
Only $51 for the article, $424 to sub to the journal. - Joe
Joe: True...but that $51 only buys you 24-hour access! - Walt Crawford
Oh, I thought "unlimited access pay per view" was for the article. Still. It's interesting that this is something that comes from a GS link. It's one of those "we just started publishing 70 journals in multiple disciplines including bioscience, engineering etc etc" outfits. - barbara fister
I'm not too thrilled if those are going to start showing up in GS results. Oh well, teachable moment. - barbara fister
Just backed out of an ACRL webinar "Supporting Research Methods in the Library." It wasn't exactly a commercial for Sage but there was nothing informative coming out of the mouths of any speakers. #cantgetthathourback #snore
I regularly give webinars and struggle to make sure I'm adding something new. It's really tough, and my perception is the most presenters aim way too low. Not making excuses at all--people spend their time and money attending these, and too many webinars are a waste of both. - kaijsa
Part of this, I feel, is a misperception that Webinars Should Be For Everyone. Until audiences can be defined more straitly, yeah, most will be kind of lowest-common-denominator. - RepoRat
This started out: "most undergrads asking about research just want to know where to start to find journal articles. Most grad students want to know how to do a comprehensive lit review." I think that my conception of what "research methods support" means has more to do with choosing, understanding, and evaluating research methodologies? and NOT how do i decide where to steer my undergrad for her 10 scholarly journal articles. - LibrarianOnTheLoose
yikes. yeah, no. A thing I actually know about myself is that I need to do a better job signaling who the talk is for and exactly what it'll cover when I write talk blurbs. - RepoRat
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Reading "Evaluation and Comparison of Discovery Tools:An Update" from a couple of months ago. It states that there are 5 discovery tools that can be placed above the rest: "Encore, Ebsco Discovery Service, Primo, summon, and WorldCatLocal" Do you agree? Are there any others you would consider to be in their league?
Encore is dead as discovery. They now outsource it to EDS. (And worldcat changed its name, right? ) But what's left? VuFind? - JffKrlsn from Android
This came across LibLicense-L over the weekend: - Lisa Hinchliffe
The Texas State Library and Archives Commission is pleased to announce a White Paper on Discovery Services Implementing a discovery service can be both challenging and rewarding. The Texas State Library and Archives Commission (TSLAC) contracted with Amigos Library Services to write a white paper to provide basic information concerning discovery services, as well as an overview of the... more... - Lisa Hinchliffe
Vendors: BiblioCommons, Blacklight, EBSCO Discovery Services, Ex Libris Primo, Innovative Encore, OCLC WorldCat Discovery, ProQuest Summon Service, VuFind - Lisa Hinchliffe
ooh, thank you for that, Lisa. - RepoRat
if you just talk abt article index there are only 4. primo , summon, eds, worldcat discovery. the rest like vufind, encore duet are mostly layers only that need the article index from the 4. - aaron from BuddyFeed
Thank you Lisa for the link! - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Aaron, right.. and doesn't vufind work with summon or worldcat data to provide the data? - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Fleming sounds about right. I think I recently saw someone got EDS to work with vufind too. - aaron
So "discovery tool" could be defined in different ways--meta-index or presentation layer/interface, or combination thereof. - JffKrlsn
yes, it's always been a Humpty Dumpty portmanteau. I've personally seen discussions go south because the group had not decided beforehand (or at all) whether metadata coverage or UI was more important. Either decision is perfectly defensible! But trying to pick a discovery layer without that decision is an exercise in everybody talking past everybody else. - RepoRat
Besides the UI and the article index, a third area could be whether it works as an ILS by itself or is it just a layer over the "real ILS" . The term discovery tool or layer predates the rise of web scale discovery, so it is confusing. You can get confused over terms like "Next generation catalogue" vs Discovery tool vs Discovery layer. - aaron
aaron: I was reading a different article today that pointed to the integration of the actual ILS as a future step - Mr. The Jason Fleming
That's basically where Ex Libris is heading with Alma. It's much more integrated with Promo than Voyager could be. - Kirsten from Android
good phrasing, aaron, may I steal it? :) - RepoRat
Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey -
Suing for 1.25 million dollars. What a fucking douchebag. Hope he gets hit by a truck. - Steele Lawman
I just saw this on Twitter and wondered when it would get posted here. What Steve said. - Catherine Pellegrino
He claims that the statements by the two women "have caused him to be regarded with feelings of hatred, contempt, ridicule, fear, dislike, approbrium or disesteem." Joke's on him, as most people I know have ALWAYS felt that way about him. - Steele Lawman
This is utterly outrageous. Any guy who has a whole internet joke to himself ("nice shirt!") can't really say that he's innocent of causing contempt, ridicule, dislike, and disesteem. - lris
Dude. I hold him in contempt, ridicule, dislike, and disesteem JUST for calling himself a "library futurist." The rest is, I don't know, icing on the cake? - Catherine Pellegrino
does anybody know the ultimate origin of the "nice shirt" meme? can we date it? I think that might help the defendants. - RepoRat
I do not know. However, I know that it was a meme in 2008 when I hung out with library friends in Chicago for ALA Annual. He even looked me over and said "Nice shirt" in some hotel lobby or other that year.I remember almost nothing else about that encounter except that I fought the urge to laugh because of his reputation for saying just that. - lris
I remember it from IL in 2008 and CiL in 2009. - laura x from iPhone
I was just about to post a link to this (comment: Really?) but I'm late to the party. Still, damn. Nice suit. - Walt Crawford
Hee hee. Nice one, Walt. - laura x from iPhone
They are looking for witnesses. I hope they find some - maʀtha
I hope so too. I wish I could be more help to them in that way, except that I'm actually really grateful that I don't have anything useful to offer them, you know? - Catherine Pellegrino
Well, any of us who can honestly say that we learned about Joey Digits's conference behavior from FriendFeed (where AFAIK neither defendant has participated) may have a role as a character witness. - RepoRat
lisa just posted to code4lib with links to their page and saying that soon they'll have a link up for donations, as well as requests to continue to spread the message - Sir Shuping is just sir
Lisa's posted to FF --but only in the past 6 months. - Hedgehog
I believe I was first nice-shirted at SLA in 2008 (twice at that conference). - Meg VMeg
Unfortunately, isn't "nice shirt" rather innocuous? I mean, I know it could still be creepy, but it's just the kind of thing a smart creep would say, because it doesn't say anything about the person's body or anything. - Steele Lawman
Yes, it is very savvy, Steele - maʀtha
Sure, but at the same time, if he's pretty much the only person to have told all of us we have nice shirts (excluding people we actually knew at the conferences) that's kinda weird, and we all found the encounters weird and noteworthy, which is also important. I don't think it would win any of us a settlement if we sued him for harassment, of course, but it also does nothing to defend his thought that he's totally wronged by people who mention that he harasses women. - lris
He must be being counseled to remain silent. This is the quietest I've ever seen him. I'm still wondering about his quick stint and departure from III. - Mary Carmen
MC I kinda wondered as well. And I'm wondering if that was III silently acknowledging that there were things outside of work going on that they didn't wanna touch anymore - Sir Shuping is just sir
I met Joe once at CIL in...08? 09? and I know that there were several different people then that told me that....well he was basically someone to steer clear of because of how he treated people. - Sir Shuping is just sir
I met him several times when he was science librarian at Yale. Only thought was that he was an energetic new librarian who hadn't been ground down yet. Didn't see the behavior mentioned but hat means nothing. The shirt thing is odd. Did he ever say that to a man? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Never heard him say it, but I imagine that as an innocuous opening line he had used just to talk to someone. I first met him around 2007 or so at SLA, and he seemed ambitious and fresh outa libschool in HI. - Joe
It may have been intended as innocuous, but it was pretty tone deaf. It's weird because the phrase itself is utterly innocuous, but the vibe of the interaction wasn't. Whatever his intentions, his reputation wasn't helped by that particular conversational tick. - lris
I would argue it was intended to /appear/ innocuous. - Joe
That is my suspicion as well. - lris
It is a line with possible/plausible deniability of a sexual advance. - Joe
Yes, and it accomplishes a wonderful end, which is that I feel stupid saying "that made me uncomfortable." - lris
I am still disappointed that I was on an elevator with him and did not get nice-shirted. (CiL 2009) - laura x from iPhone
I remember you noting that at the time. :) - lris
Someone said "nice shirt' to me today O-O (He actually liked my shirt. I think.) - barbara fister
I have submitted my entirey hearsay witness - to whit, "I hear he's creepy.I hear this often." Not sure it will help, but worth a try. - barbara fister
I submitted my "he said I had a nice shirt" statement yesterday, with the caveat that it was a decidedly weird vibe at the time, and at the time it was already a bit of a joke in our crowd and our crowd didn't include either of the defendants at the time. - lris
Nice Shirt goes way back, but I will say while it was odd, it was not aimed only at women, and always struck me as an ice breaker form a socially awkward person who had been taught to always compliment folks, and that was his go to compliment. If it had only been women, that might be one thing, but I do remember men getting 'nice shirted' as well - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
on a related note, I hope there is a way to use older profile info on social media sites as information for this case. I seem to recall different info on a certain flickr profile. Glad there's an opportunity to provide character witness information. - Elizabeth Brown
Hm. Does the Internet Archive pick up old profiles? - RepoRat
I think I shall be sending Agent Fister's latest LBF to the few colleagues who don't understand the whole #teamharpy issue. Perfect framing and summary. - kaijsa
I was just coming here to link to that post too. Fantastic piece, Barbara. - lris
I regret saying that I hope he gets hit by a truck. Not because it wasn't what I was feeling, nor because I'm worried that Joey Digits might sue me, but because I like to say that Mr. Rogers is my hero, and it isn't very Mr. Rogers to wish that someone would get run over. What I really wish is that Joey had read the posts in question and thought not, "how do I sue for defamation?" but "how do I stop hurting people?" That's the more Mr. Rogers wish. - Steele Lawman
Why do some librarians have love/hate relationships with Wikipedia? I would like our library to take part in this OA week project (, but the conservative nature around here will probably prevent us in taking part in this officially.
In other words, why are some librarians fine with having an editathon, and others viscerally against it? - Joe
Wikipedia is destabilizing. Some people--the stereotypical uncritical student--ignore or are unaware of how and why it is destabilizing. Other people--the stereotypical "don't use online sources" professor--find it so destabilizing they are still hoping it will go away. Still others--and I would hope most librarians are in this bunch--find the destabilization a useful and interesting place to investigate our assumptions and practices around authority and authorship. - Steele Lawman
Plus, it's awesome when someone in the House of Representatives edits Mitch McConnell's Wikipedia entry to say that he's a turtle. - Steele Lawman
FWIW I'd be cautious about an editathon, but mostly because I know that Wikipedians can start reverting edits and even baninating IP addresses if they get nervous about suspicious activity, so I'd want to plan it really well to avoid that happening and being off-putting. - Deborah Fitchett
Can't speak for librarians; I can say that some of us have been burned badly enough by the WikiFolk that we may use it but will never again try to improve it. I'd guess any librarian who's been reverted a dozen or more times, usually for asinine reasons, might be reluctant to engage. - Walt Crawford
I saw the turtle thing. - Joe
It's turtles all the way down. - bentley
we did an editathon and it was great. if you give wikipedia a heads up you are all good (you need some folks who can authorize accoutns on the spot - it's not too complicated.) we had kickass student interest. and those who are against it don't see the bigger picture, imho. - jambina
The topic is water resources in Colorado. I am guessing that peeps will be adding in factual information that is found in library databases and books, so hopefully there would not be an edit war. But, I could be wrong. - Joe
And, some of my coworkers are less than enthusiastic about it. I think I will just do it as an individual, and maybe a couple colleagues will help out. - Joe
one of my faculty members wants me to gamify my instruction sessions, either pre- or post-session. Ideas for doing so?!
professor studies marketing / health promotion using games, apps, etc. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
At THATCamp the other day, we were shown a syllabus that uses points and leveling up instead of grades. Accomplish a given goal, get X number of points and/or level up. At the end of the semester (or session, for you) total the points and evaluate accordingly. Kind of clever really. - RepoRat
my one idea is … create cute moo cards with mai pretty photos. empty Venn diagram on back (that's what I teach 'em). Give 'em out for good answers to mai questions - like "who's used the library chat function?" Maybe a "collect all 10" contest? (what do they win?) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
cool - I could flip the tables & ask prof. to modify her syllabus. Any chance I could get my paws on that syllabus? or could you point me to it? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I guess it depends on your instruction session. I did a gov docs / statistics session a few years ago where I had them find pieces of information in teams - whoever got the right answer first, their team got candy. - Laura
I don't mean this in a jerky way (but I might indeed be a jerk), but why? Is the course gamified? Does the prof want to collaborate on gamification, or just wants YOU to do it? Is there a pedagogical reason? On topic: Ideas would depend on the learning goals. One of my religion classes has to complete several tasks (for points) like finding on-topic resources (schol article, book from... more... - kaijsa
I think she thinks it'll engage the students. plus we talked about my making moo cards to incentivize students (and show off my pix). possibly also to have me model what she's teaching / talking about. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
For those not getting the Swets email--"Swets & Zeitlinger Group BV has today declared bankruptcy." We get a lot of our journals through them.
Happiest of birthdays to our own Martha!!!
Happy Martha Day!!! - Julian
Happiest of days, Martha! - laura x
So glad to know you, birthday girl Martha! - Steele Lawman
Happy Birthday Martha!!! - Hedgehog from Android
Hello! *waves* - maʀtha
Happy birthday!! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Happy birthday, Martha! - Meg VMeg
Yes! Happy! Happy! - Marianne
Happy happy birthday! - Megan loves summer
Here's hoping you're having a most excellent birthday! - Galadriel C. from Android
thanks for all the birthday wishes over the weekend, peeps! - maʀtha
I'm late to the party, but Happy Birthday martha! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
:) - maʀtha
Many happy returns of all the days until your birthday next year! - Lily
It's only Monday, but at this point I only have 3 half-hour slots left for student appointments between now and Friday. Imma have to institute and arm wrestling competition to earn an appointment.
well, clearly you don't need Galinda's help to be popular ;) - RepoRat
I hope you scheduled in breaks! Conferencing weeks always get me sick. Best wishes. - kaijsa
Walt Crawford
Slight disconnect in this OA journal's title and "about us": the subtitle = "The Journal of Gender and Water" but the About Us says explicitly: "journal for women and water issues around the world." So there's only one gender?
Do water issues affect men as men, rather than as people? I can see all sorts of ways they would affect women as women. Admittedly I'm not highly informed about other genders but I wouldn't be surprised if the gender issues they face aren't so much water-related. - Deborah Fitchett
Deborah: My single objection is to the journal's subtitle. Everywhere else, it's clear that they're always talking about women, and that's fine. Call it "The Journal of Women and Water" and there's no issue. (There's not much of an issue anyway--this little grump is all I'm planning to say.) - Walt Crawford
I have a problem. I cannot get the mixed group of coworkers and library board members to hit Reply All to emails within the group. Therefore I act as traffic cop and forward them to the people who were left out.
I never thought I would complain about people NOT hitting Reply All, but here I am. - Andy
Are you using a Google Group mailing list, or just a group in your personal contacts? - WebGoddess
Outlook, because that's what work has. :| - Andy
at MPOW, there is a general aversion to public conversation. I respond reply all, because I want to spark a discussion, not inset an envelope into a mail slot. No one else responds to all. It is a big part of our dysfunction that we do our work behind the scenes and in private and never publicly amongst the whole. Brovo to you for forcing the conversation! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Netherlands: Swets Files For Bankruptcy | LJ INFOdocket -
Dang. - Marie from Bookmarklet
I kind of thought they already had? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
There's a thread over on Serialst about it too. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
what-all does Swets do that I might have heard of? - RepoRat
subscription management. - Marie
usage statistics management (Scholarly Stats) - Marie
Will PQ or EBSCO come out on top in the post-dissolution buchery of Swets? - Aaron the Librarian
oh right, they also have Mendeley Institutional Edition. Jackie, what are they saying over at Serialst? I get the digest version so I don't view the blow-by-blow. - Marie
Elsevier will be announcing soon that they are taking over all aspects of MIE, which shouldn't be too surprising since they bought mendeley a couple of years ago. - DJF from Android
thanks, Marie! - RepoRat
Elsevier sent out an email basically saying to watch out, since if Swets have your payment but it doesn't get to them, they won't fulfill your order. ETA: so the Swets customers are asking each other what to do. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Any Philadelphia area LSWers out there?
So I know an awesome new librarian moving to Philly looking for a first library job. Was hoping to introduce her to some LSWers who could help her build a network. Perhaps the LSW has not yet infiltrated the Philly area? - Jen
I know a couple of librarians in Philly (unLSWified), but I haven't talked to them in years. - Joe
Aaron is in PA, but I'm not sure how far away from Philly he is - ~Courtney F
Holly Tomren and Tom Ipri are there, at Drexel. Forward me contact info and I will connect them to your friend? - Marie
Thanks Joe and Courtney - I'm sending Marie contact info. I really appreciate your help. - Jen
I'm in NJ across from Philly. Email me wawoodworth[the @ symbol] - Andy
Thanks Andy! - Jen
No problem, I hope I can help. I know some Philly librarians that I can pass along to her. - Andy
Dear film makers everywhere. No, I do not want to buy your new documentary.
^^ME NEITHER - maʀtha
Reading this right after cleaning out my inbox was lolz. - kaijsa
Also, "Dear film askers, we already own your documentary. Stoppit." - ~Courtney F
But you might need another copy of this journey to planet earth! - Joe
I've deleted three such email this morning. Happy Monday! - maʀtha
holly #ravingfangirl
don't know if i've seen one of these in a while, so... library websites you especially like? bonus if it's a public library. :)
Walt Crawford
Full marks for honesty, in a discussion of whether (OA) would work in political science: "The only question with any of these things is in determining value for tenure." "Edythe"'s comment, a little ways down in this thread.
It doesn't take much to get to: The ***primary*** function of academic publishing is to gain tenure; all else is trivial. And I suspect there are many for whom that's true. - Walt Crawford
Steele Lawman
"Life on the outside: collections, contexts and the wild, wild web" Keynote presented at the Annual Conference of the Japanese Association for the Digital Humanities, 20 September 2014, Tsukuba.
"Such questions remain crucial as we consider the relationship between cultural collections and their online users. If we expect people to erect ‘generous signposts’ we have to make our stuff easy to find and share. If we want them to consider their responsibility to the past we should focus on providing trust, confidence, and support, not permission." - Steele Lawman
Has anyone seen "a discovery service to global e-journal literature published in open access format." Looks pretty sketchy to me, but my boss just asked me about it so I'm curious if anyone's had any experience with it or knows anything.
don't know anything, sorry, but some of the language on is a little... off. nobody says "golden" OA journals, frex, and why would "embargo subscription journals" be in a supposedly full-text OA database? (Do they mean "articles available after an embargo"?) So at first glance, I'm kinda skeptical. - RepoRat
Hello! my name is Walter Kny and I'm the director of the Global eJournals Library ( By chance, I stumbled upon this thread and I hope you don't mind if I provide some clarification. It is a discovery service for open access journals articles in english language. Our database carries more than 7,400,000 articles MetaData from 19,000 Journals. It is by far the biggest... more... - Walter
Walt Crawford
Odd and presumably coincidental nearness: I'm processing the "third group" of journals (DOAJ, English, not in the first two groups, not bio/biomed/medical--around 3,300 of them) in publisher alphabetic order (most publishers only have one journal). Two universities, Cologne and Colorado, are adjacent in the list, each with one journal....
The interesting part: The two journals are Gender Forum and Gender, respectively, both entirely concerned with gender issues. (The Colorado one's older; the Cologne one--still around for more than a decade--has somewhat more papers. Both appear healthy. Both are, ahem, Gold OA with no article processing fee.) - Walt Crawford
Should clarify: Colorado has another journal in the list (Colorado Research in Linguistics) but its publisher is identified at the department level, not the university level. Well, and that other journal--I just looked at it--is a bit less healthy, with one issue in the last four years. - Walt Crawford
sooooo...I used to be able to run a query at DOAJ of Social Sciences/Library and Information Science to see a list of OA LIS journals. Now that subcategory isn't there?
Oh, I see. Now we're a super category: Bibliography. Library science. Information resources. - Marie
Unfortunately, the supercategory Bibliography doesn't seem to show up on the Subject dropdown on the left-hand side. - Walt Crawford
Click that Count up arrow button a couple of times until it gives you an a-z option and then you'll see it in the list. If you click on 10 and enter 400 in the pop-up window you should see a long, alphabetical list. I just spent the last 30 minutes of my life trying to figure this out. sigh. - Marie
Hmm. That's a little odd. (I cheated: checked a spreadsheet then did Bibliography. Lib... as a subject search.) - Walt Crawford
I agree it's odd. Is there an easier/more direct way? The site seems clunkier than when I last used it. - Marie
Is it me? It's probably me and I need a weekend. :) - Marie
No, it's not you. Period. DOAJ is going through a number of changes, mostly for the good, so it's not surprising that a few things would get semi-borked along the way. - Walt Crawford
BIBLIOGRAPHY? They've gotten very meta. - Meg VMeg
Summon 2.0 question: A search for the article "guns the US threat to Mexican national security" is categorized as a magazine article. It stays in the search when I limit on the facets to Scholarly & peer-reviewed. However, when I go to advanced search and limit there to 'Scholarly materials, including peer-reviewed', it is gone from the results.
What's going on here? What's the difference between the facet and the limit? Especially given that there is an additional limit offered in advanced search for "peer reviewed publications". - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
(also, OMG, I hate Summon! My students can't grasp what a scholarly article is, and Summon is NOT helping this any!) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I would help look at it, except we are having technical issues with Summon again... sigh. - aaron
I don't know about Summon, but I know that in Primo the metadata is divided into different sections for display vs search vs facetting. This can be useful for finetuning but could also cause anomalies like you describe so maybe Summon is set up in a similar way and the metadata for that article is wonky in the 'search' section? - Deborah Fitchett
Hmm if you do a search then filter to Scholarly & peer-reviewed the URL should be the same as if you went directly to advanced search and directly limited to that plus search. So it shouldn't make a difference? My Summon instance doesn't seem to have that article, so can't really duplicate what you found. - aaron
Anyone have a list of the journals with the highest Institutional list price to Individual price ratio? I know that Nature Physics is at 28:1 ($4,958 to $175) or about 44.9:1 ($4,958 to $110.50/year if subscribed for two years.)
Laura Norvig
I don't really know what Digital Humanities means.
It means your palimpsest is in the other castle - Pete : Team Marina
don't worry, neither does anybody else - RepoRat
Digital Humanities is what *you're* doing. Not what that other person over there is wasting their time on. - John Dupuis
Apparently nobody does because everyone keeps writing about how to define it. - barbara fister from iPhone
Give it ten years and it will be called "humanities." - barbara fister from iPhone
Digital Humanities is people who are tired of having to deal with the senior "regular humanities" people who are in the way... kinda like libraries vs digital libraries? - Aaron the Librarian
I [heart] this thread - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Am I a Digital Human? - Andrew C (✔)
The matrix? - Steve C Team Marina
Laura Norvig
Today I am throwing away all of my class materials from studying for my MLIS at SJSU. I am terrible at throwing things away, but have been storing them in my cube at work and we are moving.
Goodbye Introduction to Cataloging and Classification, eighth edition. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye course reader from Lib Sci 248, Cataloging, Summer 1999, Dr. Liu - Laura Norvig
Goodbye course material from Lib 210, Reference and Info Svcs, Spring 1998, Terry Crowley, the best teacher ever, RIP. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye materials from Lib 231, Spring 1998, Special Libraries, Becky Barber. - Laura Norvig
Might have to save my literature survey, "From Crisis to Opportunity: Access to Scholarly Articles in the Digital Age," written Dec 1, 1997. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye junk from Lib 244, Database Retrieval Systems, Robert Wagers. ... oh, I am so bad at this ... look at these oldie but goodie articles on Controlled Vocabulary vs. Free Text searching ... - Laura Norvig
Goodbye materials from Lib 220, Fall 1998, Libraries and the Law, taught by the fabulous Mary Minow. To keep: Homework assignment: Letter to Congressman Livingston detailing why the Child Protection Act of 1998 is unacceptable and unconstitutional. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye core course crap: Lib 200, Information and Society, Fall 1997 w/ Yael Schwartz; and Lib 204, Management w/ Dr. Fisher. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye print out of Odlyzko's July, 1994 article about the impending demise of traditional scholarly journals stating, "traditional scholarly journals will likely disappear within 10 to 20 years." ... well, we are close, my friend. - Laura Norvig
Oh, that is a classic. - Joe
I don't think I have ever not thought that Odlyzko was anything but a loon. - RepoRat
I was a good student! Also: hilarious point in time reference. I wrote an entire paper about The Benefits and Drawbacks of E-Mail since it was a "relatively new mode of communication." - Laura Norvig
Odd that Tragic loss was published in multiple journals, I don't see one from June. International Journal of Human-Computer Studies, Volume 42, Issue 1, January 1995, Pages 71–122 ( and and International Journal of Human-Computer Volume 42 Issue 1, Jan. 1995 ( and in January of 1995. - Joe
Classic in the ironic sense. I now think of him as a loon, but 20 years ago, I read what he wrote with some esteem. - Joe
Thanks for the linky. - Joe
I don't think email will ever take. - Joe
Goodbye stuff from User Interface Design with Tessier, Jan 1999 - The beginning of the end of any chance I would go into a traditional library career. Ugh, I do not want to throw away these notes. Let go, Laura, let go. Found: email correspondence with Tog of Found: URL of class project ... oh, interwebs, someone needs to clear out your cobwebs ... - Laura Norvig
Goodbye stuff from Creativity and Problem Solving with Wayne Reeves. - Laura Norvig
Scribbled on a piece of paper: "Here's a question: why do so few search engines give you a chance to choose how your data will be sorted and displayed?" - Laura Norvig
If you have to ask, we don;t trust you to sort it properly - Aaron the Librarian
Can I please get the comments in this thread sorted alphabetically by author instead of reverse chronologically? - Joe
Goodbye underlined and highlighted copy of Marchionini's "Information Seeking in Electronic Environments." *feels distinct pangs of anguish*. Ditto Meadow's "Text Information Retrieval Systems." I should just go back to school, shouldn't I? - Laura Norvig
Hello! (I mean goodbye) article by Daphne Koller, "Hierarchically classifying documents using very few words." Did I mention I am not very good at this throwing away thing? Goodbye all the great notes from Judy Tessier's Lib 202 Information Retrieval, Fall 1997. - Laura Norvig
Goodbye more books: Collection Development Policies. Buckland's Information and Information Systems. - Laura Norvig
Walt Crawford
Anyone know if something's up (or down!) at Univ. of Alberta Libraries? I've reached them as a publisher...and trying to follow any link from the journal home pages just spins and spins and spins. After five minutes, I mark that as "journal unreachable." Three spinning right now, including EBLIP.
The journal home pages (all OJS, as far as I can tell) come up just fine--but any link (e.g. Archive or About) goes into permaspin. - Walt Crawford
There are four more I haven't tried yet; I'd hate to mark all seven as unreachable, but that's sure how it looks right now. - Walt Crawford
Actually only three more: the fourth is elsewhere at Alberta, and works just fine. So it's apparently a library-as-host problem. A shame. - Walt Crawford
Sigh. 13 minutes, one attempt formally timed out, given up on all three. No major significance in what I'm doing, but a shame--especially since they all sound like interesting journals (Complicity, Constitutional forum, Evidence Based Library and Information Practice). - Walt Crawford
That's weird. I use EBLIP all of the time. ETA: it works for me right now. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
While I was out weeding, EBLIP came back (with functioning links, that is); I'll retry all three after lunch. I've used EBLIP before too, which is one reason I was surprised by the apparent malfunction. - Walt Crawford
Back for another library-hosted journal. (When I say "out weeding," I mean out pulling weeds, not deaccessioning books. But you probably knew that.) - Walt Crawford
To close this: Yes, all of them were back, and I've added "Recheck unreachables" to my short list of second-pass things to do. There aren't a whole bunch of them, so that's doable. - Walt Crawford
Dissertation abstracts is ignoring the very important word ARSON in my searches. *wah* Why does it do this? Seriously, it makes me feel like I am losing all my search fu!
that's weird...have you tried putting it in quotes? it shouldn't need it, but maybe it will work? - Sir Shuping is just sir
weirdly, that did change the results, a bit. Still not seeing the term in the displayed snippets, but searching "arson" brought back more results. weirdness. (also, good tip! thank you) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Some days I bust out the giant Post-It paper and markers in class just because I think it's fun.
Extra-big markers. - Meg VMeg
YES - jambina
I think it's the heady reaction to the smell of the markers, personally - Aaron the Librarian
The students were confused at first, but they are first-years and it seems everything is confusing to them. Their prof was way into it. - kaijsa
Julie Kane
For Betsy (I have Acrobat Pro)
Thank you! When I tried to do it, pages 4+ were images, for some reason. Thank you thank you. - bentley
You're very welcome! Anytime. I love Acrobat Pro. :) - Julie Kane
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