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Meg VMeg
When a job posting explicitly says to include "salary expectation" in your cover letter, what do you do? Generally, I've heard it's better to turn that question around on the asker, which you can't do here.
I usually raise my eyebrows because I expect they're going to try and lowball me. I've heard of people calling HR depts at institutions to ask for a range. - Hedgehog
It's an easy way to filter out people who know what they should be paid. - DJF from Android
I hate that requirement. There's usually a way to find the salary schedule for public institutions, but it's not always clear how it works. Some places use a strict schedule, some have more of a range. We get a fair number of calls at the research help desk asking us for salaries because ours aren't online (the library keeps the current year on reserve). Personally, I've always found as... more... - kaijsa
I generally don't fill it in or write something like "amount varies depending on benefits and quality of life opportunities" - Aaron the Librarian
Can you get away with "salary requirements are commensurate with the experience I bring to the job, the responsibilities and scope of the job, and competitive within the institution?" - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
yeah, i hate that question. i tend to either leave it blank or put "salary expectation based upon institutional range" - Sir Shuping is just sir
Hedgehog
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The Lunatic Ur Lookin 4
Things You Should Know About Being an Archivist | Playfully Tacky - http://playfullytacky.com/2014...
Things You Should Know About Being an Archivist | Playfully Tacky
YvonneM
Embedded in a EduTech MOOC of sorts as librarian--the instructor is very pro Google & "yay for shiny, happy tech!" So I like to post subversive links about privacy & data mining, along with the edu info. ::twirls mustache::
I <3 you most muchly. - RepoRat
Well, this is my 2nd year, and last year I'd about had it with all the "Google is great!" stuff. These are current & future teachers and they need to know the cons. Any suggestions or resources you think would help would be cool. :-) - YvonneM
Well, the BIG one in an edu-tech context is http://arstechnica.com/tech-po... Sure, they've stopped, they say -- but who the hell thought this was okay in the first place, is what I want to know! - RepoRat
Yes yes yes! Posted that to our Twitter hash tag, will post other places. I'm on G+ though (req'd 4 class), so I fear this makes me somewhat hypocritical. But, I mainly want them to be informed, since this isn't being addressed at all. On the bright side, information literacy is addressed (albeit briefly--I plan to add to that as well). They're a good group. If anyone wants the hash tag to see the convos feel free to PM me. - YvonneM
hey, if it's required, it's required. - RepoRat
So far, the response has been ::crickets:: - YvonneM
Doesn't mean you're not making an impact -- means they don't want to buck the instructor. ;) - RepoRat
I like how you think! :-) - YvonneM
Walt Crawford
Thanks to a different post, I went back to the Forbes idiocy and looked at the comments. The author has apparently decided that full-time trolling on other commenters is deep wisdom. It's quite a remarkable display; makes Cato and Hoover people look dead reasonable by comparison.
I mean: first, every time a librarian or other person says "libraries are about more than just lending books," he says "now that we've agreed that libraries aren't about books..." (not in those words). Second, his responses nicely ignore the title of his rant with its admonition to close all the libraries. It's actually pretty classic trolling, just at a higher pitch than usual. - Walt Crawford
I somehow missed this. Grrr. - YvonneM
There appears to be a template of sorts: New ebook-related thingie comes out; white male who doesn't use public libraries explains why this is The End Of Libraries and a Good Thing, without any real facts. Difference this time: The jackass is more busily trolling than most such template-users do. (The sad thing: An academic librarian with a large audience is playing along, albeit with a different tune, this time. Mathews, you should know better.) - Walt Crawford
lris
Martha and Sarah today at the party celebrating their wedding.
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That's a good picture! thanks, Iris! - maʀtha
You two are very cute. :) - Laura
Iris, would you be willing to share this pic with me? - maʀtha
that is a very happy picture, made my day. :) - Benedicta
As Aunt Ann says, "That is cute a while" - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
you look so happy!! congratulations!! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
A big ol' grin spreads across my face every time this scrolls by. - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
happy day! - barbara fister
JffKrlsn
Is anyone holding off on migrating to the LibGuides v2 because it's "too beta"? (Rather than because e.g. it's a big job that requires extra care.) I was planning on just doing it, and now getting a little worried that so much is not quite there yet...
We're migrating tomorrow. I guess we'll see how that goes. - kaijsa
How about both reasons you mention? - aaron
Our content was migrated at the end of June. We're scheduled (by us) to go live August 1. I haven't heard that it's too beta from my coworkers, but I might when we meet about it next week. - ~Courtney F
it's definitely too beta (I'd say still a wee bit alpha). We migrated in June, not sure when we're going live - because some essential components aren't built or ready yet. My Springshare love is pretty tainted by the way this rolled. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm holding off until the end of the year, partly because I'd like the dust to settle on the new platform first and partly because I want to use these intervening months as a time for us to clean up the guides on the current platform in advance of the migration. The longer we can spend on the latter, the better off we'll be. In other words, the migration is giving us a convenient excuse to do the kind of clean up work we should have been doing all along. - Stephen Francoeur
Our guides are still fairly small in number and only a few librarians are even creating them right now--I like the idea of switching over asap so as not to have to train folks twice... just now getting cold feet from the stuff I'm seeing (and in some cases, reporting) in their Ning (!) community. - JffKrlsn
Springshare's has a Ning community? - aaron from YouFeed
Springsharelounge.com is Ning, isn't it? - JffKrlsn from Android
Oh.. Right. - aaron
Kirsten
The email from ExLibris regarding EBSCO pulling out of Primo Central (EL's discovery layer):
As you may know, for the past eighteen months, we have been indexing in Primo Central a number of the EBSCO databases. EBSCO has now changed their strategy and will no longer permit third-party discovery services to load and index their content. Therefore, starting 1st January 2011 we will cease hosting of the EBSCO content in the Primo Central Index. EBSCO will, however, permit our use of a specialized API to search the EBSCO content ‘just-in-time’. - Kirsten
Since our initial agreement with EBSCO in June 2009, we have made significant progress in working directly with many publishers and other aggregators to dramatically increase the content in the Primo Central Index. In addition we recently reached agreement with Gale whereby their databases in Primo Central will now be available to all, regardless of subscription. Since there is a... more... - Kirsten
Based on a recent analysis of the Primo Central content, we cover, through other channels, over 90% of the data provided by the current EBSCO content loaded in the Primo Central Index. Furthermore, of the small number of titles exclusively available from EBSCO, none of these appears on the list of the 5,000 most used journals, based on SFX logs, and only three appear on the list of the 10,000 most used journals. - Kirsten
We are currently finalizing the details of the new arrangement with EBSCO for ‘just-in-time’ search and will update you as we progress on this. However, we believe that EBSCO’s decision to withdraw their content from the Primo Central Index does not best serve your user’s interests. We therefore strongly encourage you to add your voices directly to those of the ELUNA and IGELU steering committees in requesting that EBSCO reverse their decision and enable their data for indexing. - Kirsten
Ah, ok. That doesn't affect 360 Search, because it's a pure federated search product with no harvesting. But this means that Summon is going to be cut off too. - DJF
holeeeee crap. - jambina
Yeah, the EBSCO databases are still available through MetaLib (EL's federated search). But not being in the discover layer may well do a number on use stats, and if those are bad enough then the state-wide agreements will start to matter less. - Kirsten
my comment on this has disappeared? basically mentioning summon and Ebsco being the new evil empire - Christina Pikas
Could someone offer a TL:DR version? The reference desk is poppin' this morning. - Andy
PRIMO harvests database content into it's central index. EBSCO has cut them off, but it still allows federated searching in realtime. (considering how EBSCO has been cutting off other vendors from hosting content, this doesn't actually surprise me.) - DJF
Christina: You commented on the one in my feed; I reposted to LSW. Apologies for the confusion. - Kirsten
Craptastic. Seriously. We just got 360 Search and are considering Summon. It seems that vendors like EBSCO will defend their damned information silos to the bitter end. Let's all send EBSCO email that say, "Save the time of the user", shall we? - maʀtha
Martha, EBSCO's current dick move shouldn't affect 360 Search, because 360 doesn't harvest. I'm seeing HUGE problems with Search 360 that have nothing to do with EBSCO. I suspect soembody at Serials Solutions spilled their coffee on a computer or soemthing. - DJF
Yes, I wasn't being clear in my carping. I'm thinking about how this EBSCO effects everyone with Summon or who might get Summon (in addition to everyone with Primo). - maʀtha
Are any other libraries reporting problems with 360 Search? - maʀtha
Wait, does anyone have Primo Central yet? This is a fraction of Primo users, no? We have Primo for discovery, but still use Metalib for federated search, so this doesn't affect us. - Meg VMeg
We have it Meg, but I don't know how many libraries are using it. It's still fairly new, I think--our timing was such that we implemented Primo and Primo Central at the same time. Metalib is still in there too, so we do still have access to EBSCO databases. But Metalib is so much slower than Primo Central, I'm worried about how this is going to play out here. People were just getting used to our new interface. - Kirsten
liking so I can bookmark this. We are a completely ex libris shop now so this will definitely affect us. - Elizabeth Brown
It won't affect Summon users as the content harvested direct from the publisher not the indexer, e.g. EBSCO. Summon has around 97% of 'EBSCO' ft content but has never harvested EBSCO - Graham Stone
Meg, we're in the process of setting up Primo Central. We got an email from Ex Libris explaining that we can activate a whole bunch of databases that we don't subscribe to that cover the EBSCO holdings. Then SFX kicks in to locate the article in EBSCO. It's an awkward workaround until the APIs are available. - Zamms
Interesting! - Meg VMeg
Is "just in time" federated search? - María Milagros Fernández
I just want to echo Graham Stone, above. Summon (and ExLibris) are already doing end-around work bypassing the "ease" of importing EBSCO indexing. I think this will ultimately backfire in EBSCO's face as their products get marginalized and their locked-in EDS customers become their only customers. - Aaron the Librarian
If EBSCO/ProQuest/ExLibris start making exclusive indexing deals with major academic publishers, then you can worry. For now, it's just one dog marking a tree that every other dog has marked as well. - Holly's favorite Anna
saw an EBSCO demo for their EDS product last week and the way that the VP was talking they have a few exclusive deals with vendors and publishers that no one else does. He said one going to be announced at some big engineering conference in a few weeks. - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm with Aaron and Anna on this one - the workarounds are there, so until they have exclusive indexing deals, well....They do tout their indexing as superior, of course, but still. - ~Courtney F
I think when publishers start seeing libraries cancel subscriptions because the titles aren't in their discovery systems, they might reconsider the exclusive deals that seemed so tantalizing now. - Holly's favorite Anna
No use = dropped subscriptions at MPOW... If it isn't indexed in a discovery system there won't be any use. Of course, I'm still working on selling the priority of a unified index as a discovery layer. - Aaron the Librarian
So glad we don't have Primo. The UMN does, but not us. - maʀtha
How did this float to the top today? (It's from 2011) - Aaron the Librarian from Android
spammer spammed, but then got deleted - Sir Shuping is just sir
Ah ok. Added bonus: I still agree with what I said back then. (which does not always happen) - Aaron the Librarian from Android
Joe
Joe
Picture this. Ice cream truck. Library book truck. Combined. Good idea or bad idea?
book-flavored ice cream? thanks, but no. - RepoRat
Not exactly. Sell ice cream, and circulate books for free for card holders. - Joe
YES. I will suggest this to the Antelope Lending Library. - laura x from iPhone
Like coffee, but better! - ~Courtney F
NO SILVERFISH ALLOWED. - RepoRat
I would run out to the street with a fist full of quarters and my library card if I heard the music! - Marie
Brilliant. - Kirsten from Android
are you hiring? - maʀtha
Still need to get the truck first. Working on funding. - Joe
It might have difficulty getting past the board. - Julian
I promise free ice cream to board members. - Joe
Joe Hardy
Got my oldest son a Kindle for the Summer and I am sick of buying books already.
library? - ~Courtney F
Yeah I need to look into those places !) We stopped by yesterday for print/AV but I didn't think about E - Joe Hardy from Android
here's some free kindle e-books for you to consider: http://www.amazon.com/s... - Marie
Awesome, thanks! - Joe Hardy from Android
I've found some good (and some VERY BAD) books through http://www.freebooksifter.com/ - ellbeecee
Amazon also does monthly deals http://www.amazon.com/b... and they do kindle daily deals, typically $3 or less. i typically find at least a few books a month that are interesting - Sir Shuping is just sir
does Amazon Prime get you anything special kindle book wise? - Joe Hardy from Android
You can loan books from the Kindle library, though it isn't always easy to see which ones are available. - Jennifer Dittrich
Here's the link to the books you can get free (one per month) for being a prime member. You can only buy them free from the device itself though: http://www.amazon.com/s... - kristin buxton
bookbub sends out an email daily with a few cheap/free books. you can tailor (to a point) the stuff they send you ... - henry
Rachel Walden
YOU GUYS. What was the name of the guy who would always post complaints to email lists about, uh, (afraid of summoning...) a public library in a city in Massachusetts? Something reminded me but I can't find it and now it's bothering me.
Don Saklad? - The Lunatic Ur Lookin 4 from Android
Don it is, the one and only. - Walt Crawford
The scariest thing? I didn't even have to Google to recall his name, just to find a link to share. - The Lunatic Ur Lookin 4 from Android
Thank you. That's exactly who I was thinking of. - Rachel Walden
omg ... i know that guy! he also tips into glbt* groups to remind us all to have safer sex. - henry
Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
making some word clouds to 'splain reserve books. I'm liking this one, from tagxedo.
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Steele Lawman
Two new-to-me works of art I came across in the books of the Colorado Springs Fine Arts Center Library, given to Colorado College. That's the Devil's Bible and Fragmentary Head of a Queen.
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Fine Arts Center has a library? - Eric - For You Wack MCs! from iPhone
They did, but when they renovated in 2007 or so they eliminated the space for the library, dismissed the librarian, and boxed up the collection. This summer, they gave the collection to Colorado College, where I'm a librarian, and we are adding thousands of those books to our collection. - Steele Lawman
tell me more about the Devil's Bible? - RepoRat
at least they didn't pulp the collection. i've heard of that being done. - Big Joe Silence
The Devil's Bible isn't actually in the collection we were given, just a photograph of it. :) It's the largest extant medieval manuscript, currently in the collection of the National Library of Sweden. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Steele Lawman
awwwww. I wish you had it, because it looks AWESOME. - RepoRat
Joe, agreed. We think it's good for the center to be rid of the responsibility for an asset they could no longer manage, and good for the college to be able to expand our already-extensive art history collection. The gift also includes a good deal of books about the American West and American Indians that we are happy to have. - Steele Lawman
RepoRat, me too! But it isn't that kind of collection. - Steele Lawman
lris
Interesting when your emails end up in a string that's suddenly copied to the 2nd in command of the whole institution... Luckily it involved something I'm proud of.
Hedgehog
Helen asks on FB: Helen Smith Just now Got a new laptop and it won't let me access ff. I can open everything else. It says it's because I've not got cookies enabled. But I have. Any ideas?
What sort of browser? - Jennifer Dittrich
Chrome - Hedgehog
Thanks Hedgehog - clearing my browser history seems to have fixed it :-) - Heleninstitches
aaron
Thinking of how libraries do library item locations. We have 7 different libraries (Central, Chinese, Science, Medical etc) and each library can have several collections, each on different levels, what's the clearest way to represent it to users?
Most straight forward would be spell out library name in full + collection name + level. Eg CJ Koh Law Library - Singapore Malaysia Collection - Level 3. But would that be too ugly? Our current solution is Abbreviate the library name so LW - Singapore Malaysia Collection.. but people keep asking what is LW and what level is the collection. - aaron
Okay I know the most obvious solution is to make a hyperlink to a map, but let's just say it doesn't work very well now (long story). - aaron
We use abbreviations (e.g. LHS Chicago 3rd Floor Book Stacks) but don't give a indication in the catalog of where LHS Chicago Open Reserve is (it's on the first floor)... Not much in the way of help but that's how we have in my building - Hedgehog
We either say which library "Park Library (School of Journalism and Mass Communication)" or, in the case of the main library, "Main Library (6th floor)" fwiw. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Walt Crawford
Just as The Annoyed One sometimes has thoughtful essays, SKitch's Kent Anderson sometimes does really good commentaries (in this case wholly unrelated to OA): http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2014...
lris
Whelp, just got to enact our brand new emergency plan for the first time.
Did you get to kill anyone? - Professor A.I.
NOT YET - lris
you ok? what happened? - Sir Shuping is just sir
Oh yeah, I'm fine. Construction caused a leak, so I let the people know who needed to know, and hopefully there won't be too much damage done. - lris
whew...glad that you're ok and that it isn't too bad of a thing - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm glad everything is fine. Did the plan run smoothly? Not that you ever want these things to happen, but it can be good to assess the plan after an incident. - Katy S
Everything on our end went pretty well (notifying people who needed notifying, etc), but there were complications to learn from (as always). - lris
Marie
Library Assessment Conference in Seattle. Who will I see there? If there are enough of us, LSW meetup?
I will be there! Yes to meetup! - kaijsa
Kaijsa, yay! - Marie
Deborah Fitchett
When you report a bug to your vendor and they say, "Oh, because it doesn't X" and you say "No, it does, this is just a bug," and they say "Oh, but it doesn't Y," and you say "No, I've done Y, but not when bug," and they say "But no can Y" and you say "No, SEE MY PROOF THAT CAN TOO Y, JUST FIX THE BUUUUUG!" Over the course of a *month*.
Seriously it's a really tiny bug. There'll be one line of code somewhere in which they need to either add or subtract one character. - Deborah Fitchett
Ha. I can relate. - aaron
Ugh. Frustrating. - Kirsten
Today they say "Oh, actually your input file is in file format Z" and I'm all "...Your system is *converting it into* Z." I have however extracted a promise that they'll forward this to a developer. - Deborah Fitchett
Deborah Fitchett
In sentences I never expected to write: "I watched an exciting video yesterday about metadata customisation and validation."
I dunno, it sounds exciting to me! - RepoRat
It's in the context of MARC cataloguing in Alma. Just for clarification, not that this makes it any more or less exciting / weird to be saying. - Deborah Fitchett
Actually, that's even more interesting for me, since MfPOW is moving to Alma. I'm on the transition mailing list (just as a lurker), but I don't understand above half of what I see there -- it's very telegraphic. - RepoRat
Okay then you should join our almamigration Friendfeed group. Apparently I don't know how to Friendfeed because it won't let me invite you but anyway maybe someone else can figure that out. --I think one reason for telegraphicness is because a) the migration process is really quick and b) it requires rewiring your brain a huge amount so c) at the end of it you're too exhausted to translate back into the old way of ILS. Or maybe that's just me. - Deborah Fitchett
~Courtney F
Note to vendors: when we tell you we are looking to choose a new ILS, don't come and show us only the discovery part. We really are more interested in the nuts and bolts part. Two hours in and we haven't seen cataloging or acquisitions, but we've seen shine social media and app stuff.
But Courtney, surely if there are social media sharing buttons prominently featured on every item, cataloging won't be necessary! - laura x
Not to mention a purchase option that allows your library to make $.02 off every book the patron buys on their own! - ~Courtney F
Well, you don't want to *not* see the discovery part. But yeah. - Deborah Fitchett
laura x
Found at the library today. Label reads "Files from old computer index--see 'Computer Files' pre Y2K."
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this would make a good slide for something - maʀtha
CC-BY. :D - laura x
aaron
Trialing browzine again for the second time, since they are now supporting aggregators like ebsco, proquest and Ovid. Any of you who have this for a while? How are users taking it? I got the impression it's quite well received on the medical side.
We're looking at it again, too. People are more impressed this time, and the pricing is more sensible. - Holly's favorite Anna
one of my faculty members LOVES it & she tells me that every time she sees me. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I think we are finally getting it - maʀtha
We had a trial for a couple of months, had moderate use (good for a trial really), and just subscribed for a year. We'll see how it goes. - Galadriel C. from Android
We are several months into our first year. I haven't really heard any feedback other than excitement when I tell people about it. I'll take a look at stats tomorrow. - ~Courtney F
So we're about 6 months in. It's an interesting mix of titles that are being used. We've had less than 100 sessions, but almost 1000 TOC views and a good number of full text downloads. (also, entirely iOS) - ~Courtney F
Meaning that it only works on iOS, right? That's what it seems like from their site, anyway... Hard to stomach. - JffKrlsn
Jeff There's a android version. I am trialling it on a Nexus 7 (2013). It's less polished compared to the iOS one but workable. I could be wrong but the pricing model charges seperately for iOS and Android. - aaron
Aaron is correct - right now it's tablet only, both Android and iOS. They are going to release an iPhone version soon, and then an Android phone version. The pricing model did charge separately when we started our subscription (we have both), but they may have changed that. - ~Courtney F
They have changed it. There's now a single price based on fte that's platform independent. - DJF from Android
iPhone version is already out. I adore Browzine. Keeps getting better. - Julie Kane from iPhone
I think it's a great app -- MPOW is launching it in the Fall. My only complaint is that a lot of humanities sources are missing, I think because smaller publishers have a harder time getting their feeds up-to-snuff and/or included. Our tech services staff showed me where you can request inclusion of new publishers: http://support.thirdiron.com/forums... - Regular Amanda
Seems like everyone has only good words for browzine. How is the speed of loading of pdfs on your side? Feels a bit slow here.. can be maybe 10-15s - aaron
Yep, the only complaints I've gotten are about the small selection of titles available. No gripes about Android, either, but I rarely see a non-iOS tablet on this campus. I don't think ours has gotten a huge push, and I work with mostly humanities and cultural studies faculty so haven't promoted it aggressively. The people who've tried it seem to love it. - kaijsa
aaron
Just realised today the way we do ILL here is quite different from most libraries. Yet another insight to why sometimes our faculty staff or researchers who have experienced other systems are confused.
How is yours different? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Okay "most libraries" is probably a bit exaggerated. But i keep getting queries from new faculty or staff who keep asking where to search to find books for ILL.*edit* I was unclear, I mean they already have item in mind but want to find which library has it. We have always been a "you tell us what book you want to ILL and we will figure out where to do it for you" kind of library, so... more... - aaron
We expect people to know the item they want as well. - YvonneM
Aaron, that's how we do ILL too: they don't need to know where the thing is, we figure it out. We do a lot of consortial ILL stuff so it doesn't help for them to tell us that Random Library X has the item, if Random Library Y also has the item, and is a part of our consortium. - Meg VMeg
Do y'all have a form they can submit requests through? I know that's what ours are used to, even those that come from schools with ILLiad. But the bulk of libraries I'm familiar with, we expect them to know what they want before talking to ILL and ILLiad doesn't let them search that way. If i'm helping someone I often direct them to either Amazon or Worldcat (either database or .org) to look for things and I'll help them search if they need it. - Sir Shuping is just sir
We have a online form. I tell them how to get it. Yet some of them seem to feel that we are strange that they don't get this special search place to look for stuff.. I am a bit confused about "expect them to know what they want". That's a given, they already have the item in mind. What i mean is they seem to want to search through some special place to check if the thing they want exists in there. I get the sense they don't want to ILL something unless they think there is a high chance of getting it.. - aaron
Oh, we tell them to search Worldcat because it includes things we don't have. But they don't have to tell us where the thing is when they place their request (though providing a Worldcat ID will expediate the request). - Meg VMeg
people ask me that, and I tell them that we worry about that, once they've identified what they want to read. Sometimes I show them WorldCat, but usually not. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Just to be clear this isn't the case of a grad student trying to discover new itmes to ILL. It's about someone who knows something exist but insist on finding a library that has it before submitting ILL. I tell them to go worldcat too if they insist too much to check if the book they want is there (we not very big on OCLC for some reason). . But I don't think our ILL staff really care... more... - aaron
Another thing I noticed is that for us ILL = book items only. But I get a sense ILL also means requests for articles for many libraries? We call that document delivery. - aaron
ILL is books and articles for us, but honestly it varies place to place as to what they call it. It means the same thing in my opinion. As far as what you're talking about then yeah...yeah I get that a lot as well, typically from faculty. I think its a holdover from 16+ years ago where it helped ILL people to know where something was (before OCLC became fancy) I've stopped trying to tell them that they don't need to tell us where it is and just let them do that. - Sir Shuping is just sir
I have always been fascinated with how different faculty are, because of what they are used to. Ours nowadays tend to come from American ones, like Duke, Yale due to the partnerships, so there's a bit of confusion sometimes. Sometimes, there is so much confusion because our staff have no clue what they are talking about. The major one I mentioned before is the way eresources are authenticated in-campus and off-campus. (Answer: Ezproxy always, no vpn, no in campus login.. that blows their minds ha) - aaron
We call it all ILL, and we're set up the same as you are -- no need to know which library it's coming from, and in fact that would be extra complicated because we choose various libraries to borrow from for consortial/pricing reasons rather than whatever reasons a patron might choose. - lris
YvonneM
If you work in an academic library, does helping students format their theses (inserting section breaks, for ex) fall under your duties? Our Writing Center can't or won't show students how. We had a librarian that did this, but co-workers don't want to spend time (admittedly sometimes hours) on this, so director asked us not to, period.
We established a technology help desk service for students (located at the research help desk) just so that the librarians could stop trying to be IT specialists, and focus on the research questions. We have students, now, who are hired and trained to do the tech parts. It helps a lot. (And our reference stats include a lot fewer notations of "printers!") - Jenica
We also have IT student workers at our Research/IT desk who can help with that kind of thing. Also printers. - lris
We just started this, but unfortunately the library is open later than the IT desk is staffed. Admittedly we don't get a ton of research questions. - YvonneM
That was the case here until just this year. This year they've shifted all evening staffing to the library after 8pm and are staying here until we close at 1am. - lris
Our IT help desk is staffed more than our research help desk, because students are cheaper than librarians, and we get more tech questions than research ones. - Jenica
Our graduate college does some of this work. - Sarah
We would certainly show someone how to insert a section break, as in your example, or set margins or whatever. However, I don't think any of us would sit with a student while he/she put in ALL the section breaks, etc. I think we'd handle it the way we do reference: here's how you do the thing you want to do, now go do it. (Edit: We also have an IT staff member we can send them to if they have thornier problems.) - Steele Lawman
The library has computer help people on our staff. That said, I help people with this all the time. I think academic libraries *should* help students with this sort of thing. I don't want students to feel like they are getting the run around. Also, it is a way to start building relationships with students, let them know we are helpful, etc. Also, I know if they went to the regular IT department, they wouldn't get helped with this sort of thing very well and their hours are really short. - maʀtha
Also, what Steve said. - maʀtha
Our IT department hours are much longer, so generally I'd suggest people go there first, and Word/productivity suite stuff is more their purview. But if they show up at the reference desk we don't turn them away. I think we'd generally take Steve's approach, of "here's how to do it, now go do it". Or, even better, "here's how to Google/Office Help your thing, now go do it". - Regular Amanda
Thanks :-) Yeah, the lib I mentioned (also my boss) would spend several hours w/ students on this kind of thing--and no one else wants to. My boss thinks this is bad service. I'm on the fence. - YvonneM
maʀtha
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I had a pair of Alegria's that I wore to death. The only thing I don't like is the velcro. - Laura
shiny - maʀtha
And cute. - Julian
Do not buy patent Alegrias. I have two pair of patent and they squeak so much that I avoid walking through public spaces when I wear them to work. Actually, I've stopped wearing the patent ones. My regular leather ones, though---heavenly! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
does this shiny purply stuff count as patent? - maʀtha
OR is it really fishskin? - maʀtha
My non-patent leather Alegrias squeak as well, though I still wear them. - kristin buxton
teeeheeeheee - maʀtha
Silver shoes are also good for rapid transit - DJF from Android
um... - maʀtha
But only if you prefer the book over the movie - DJF from Android
What is the Wizard of Oz? - maʀtha
(what do I win?) - maʀtha
$400 added to your point tally. - DJF from Android
The shoes are here! They fit perfectly right out of the box and are gloriously squeak free - maʀtha
I think I have a new shoe brand - maʀtha
Rachel Walden
http://global.ralphlauren.com/en-us... - Departmental Resource Librarian, Sweaters
It's like the warm and fuzzy version of Cabela's gun library. - Betsy
Walt Crawford
Today's San Francisco Chronicle had a nice obituary for Zoia Horn--a locally-written one, I believe. : http://www.sfgate.com/default...
"The American Library Association did not support her in 1972, but later praised her courage." Wow, the density of subtext there is amazing. In fairness, I think ALA's a bit better than that now. - RepoRat
lris
Wherever I am, that is where my office is. #constructionzen
I'm have far too much fun "kicking people out of my office" by walking away after saying goodbye. - lris
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