I really like this statement - but will people return to blogging as we've known it?
- Tony
Are you perhaps over estimating the allure of thinking?
- Todd Hoff
Micro-blogging is good for idealets and infotainment, but it really is turning the web into a mindless medium like TV. Of course, there will always be the equivalent of PBS trying valiantly to raise the bar somewhat. Blogs will always have the possibility of transmitting real knowledge.
- Paul W. Homer
The interesting thing for me is I think we have lost the definition of what a blog is. Everybody jumped up and down about what Steve Rubel did, but really I see his change as a shift of platform. If he posted that same content on wordpress, nobody would have said a word. Just because he did it on posterous and called it a lifestream, people took issue with it. So, what is our definition then?
- Robert
Dave - I read through the link you sent, thanks for the information. So, in what ways do you think posterous goes against this definition?
- Robert
from email
I think Steve still has a weblog, he's just submitting posts to it in a "different" way. Like Dave's link says a weblog is "... a hierarchy of text, images, media objects and data, arranged chronologically, that can be viewed in an HTML browser." Pretty much sums it up, I think. Steve's post is going to generate attention, and debate, but in the end it's a weblog.
- Rob Fahrni
Robert, I know you're asking Dave a question, but I don't think the Posterious way goes against the definition. If I'm not mistaken Radio could post via e-mail, and I know Blogger supports this feature. Maybe I need to dig into Posterious a bit more but isn't that what it does?
- Rob Fahrni
Rob - That is my point. This in my mind is one of the major problems with looking for a "new name" for these social products. We see it as something different because it is called something different. Posterous, from what I can see so far, allows for the writer to interact with their "weblog" in a different way, just as you said...
- Robert
from email
Dave - I think your "huh?" was towards me... We call Posterous a "life stream", I say it is a blog, that we have given a different name to. That is what I am saying.Rob - I agree with you 100%, and that is my point exactly. I keep reading these post about blogging being dead, or blogging being alive... but those that say they are not "blogging" are still "blogging" Maybe I am not making sense, but I hope I am...
- Robert
from email
Robert - Precisely! I think Posterious is trying to find a why to differentiate their product, so they've coined a new phrase. It's still a weblog, how the data arrives may be different, but it's just a weblog all the same. When I read Steve's story last night, from his new site, I thought I was going to find a link on it to something "new and innovative", then I realized I was AT the actualy site, his "life stream."
- Rob Fahrni
Rob - YES... That is what I am saying... Same with Tumblr in my view, it is a weblog... Blogging is not dead at all in my view...
- Robert
from email
Blogology is a still too young science, and definitio usually comes when plays are over. What I feel sad for is the lack of opportunity future literature and social behaviour experts will suffer not using post's content ( and graphics ) as sources for studying today's world zeitgeist. Borges prophecy is at work, few understands - too many doesn't even know what they're writing about: a...
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- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
Robert, the photo sharing site you've used recently is structurally a blog too. It differs from normal blog software mainly in that the chronology is by date of occurrence, not date of posting.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
It's funny that this sentence and a few lines from Anthony Trollope's autobiography should have crossed paths in my consciousness on the same day, since it's almost the same idea, thrown back two temporal orders of magnitude. Trollope tells of a correspondent, a vicar, who had enjoyed his clerical novels but was upset by Lady Glencors'a contemplation of adultery in the Pallisers series....
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- Amyloo
Bruce - Very true! I'm glad that you are not working hard to call it something different. I'm loving it so far, even though I have not had a lot of time to put a bunch of pics up...
- Robert
from email
This is silly. Blogging isn't defined by the tool, it's defined by who's doing it. Read the piece I pointed to. I don't mean click on the link and hit the Back buttton, click the link and READ.
- Dave Winer
Agreed, Dave. Heck, we blogged back in the day via FTP uploads; that's what moved you towards developing "Edit This Page", in fact (IIRC).
- Ken Kennedy
Dave - I did read through it, and I agree that a blog is NOT defined by a tool, I think that is what we have been saying. I do not see where we are at odds on our viewpoints, please expound.
- Robert
from email
This subject keeps coming back - blogging will never die.
- Jesse Stay
Before Web 1.0 we listened, conversed, collaborated and then we wrote. Writing was the synthesis of all the thinking that occurred in the first steps. In the new medium, the thinking process is the streams, both personal and community. Blogging is the synthesis of this new kind of community thought process.
- Joolio
Pity there's no "Really, Really Like" button.
- Chris Baskind
Of course bloggin won't die, but you better have compelling content, because people have little tolerance for long articles.
- Todd Dewell
I think a large percentage of bloggers were really microbloggers, they just didn't have the correct apps to do that. The people that actually have something to say will keep blogging and those that just like to say something small or share something interesting will continue microblogging, or lifestreaming, or whatever variant you want to name it. Blogging is akin to publishing articles...
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- xero
This was known since the times of IRC: you can only have idle chatter or quick focused questions at that speed.
- Michele Costabile
Michele, if that premise is true, then kids only absorb important life-long lessons from their parent(s) when they're sat down for a full length lecture. No? :)
- Micah Wittman
The best food for thought always come in easily digestible chunks, however, sometimes you need to digest some larger/harder stuff to give you the ability to digest that chunk.
- xero
Xero - That is an interesting thought...
- Robert
from email
Dave - I very much appreciate you keeping up this fight. When I heard this past weekend the term "Lifestreaming", and seeing it picking up momentum. No, this has to stop. Twittering is an aside to your thoughts, or a highlight to pull people to your thoughts, if it's you only thoughts, you need put your head below the surface of your lifestream while carrying a big pile of rocks and...
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- Matthew DeVries
This isn't a fight. I love all this stuff. I was just saying what I think.
- Dave Winer
Even calling it a "Lifestream"? That's the creepiest sounding thing in tech, since Steve Balmer was threatening to "Squirt" his music onto my Zune.
- Matthew DeVries
Who really quit blogging? Even the most active lifestream addicts never really quit. For me, the blog is and has always been home. Everything else is somewhat ancillary, even when it's the first place I go. Critical thinking sometimes requires the depth of a written post.
- Ken Camp
Question: Of those of you out there who use posterous, do you use it as a replacement of your blog, a mirror of your blog or something different?
- Curt Mercadante
One of the things I like about blogging is the ability to not finish a thought, not to try so hard to say all I have to say or say come to any definite conclusion in a single post. The unfinished thought is what encourages conversation. Let someone else add to your thought. Let others challenge your incomplete premise. I don't know everything, why pretend I do? My thoughts are never finished.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Wow, you're right Dave, scripting news was indeed VERY much a microblog. Interesting & thanks for pointing that out!
- Rick Cogley
Just because you can finish a thought, doesn't mean people will read it.
- Will Higgins™
Tell me about it. That happened earlier in this very thread. But at least you ca read it yourself.
- Dave Winer
Just as your diary became your journal and then your log, your log has become your stream. The web has become your life..... AND SO IT WAS, that in the year naught-nine, the web-log was renamed to life-stream, dissected, and it's pieces scattered about the hundreds of "cloud" services, from which it could fall as raindrops of thought, pinging here and there in an attempt to spread ideas to where they were needed the most.
- Joel Bennett
No time to read it. Can you give us the gist of it in 140 characters or less? Thanks.
- Diego Barros
Blogging is still the platform of choice for sharing a clear/uninterrupted flow of thoughts from a single perspective. Then comments rapidly add value to the original post's material (most of the time). We're witnessing the link power of blogging decline because that functionality (which is monetizable) is moving to social media. We are left with the question, how best should bloggers monetize if they're losing link passing strength? I'm working that issue now by frankensteining several parts together
- Mark Essel
Personalized/Customized ads based on public user status. Semantic tools (via API), memory (local user profile database), and the passing of information to an ad aggregator will help produce custom (dynamic web matched) advertisements. It should serve all parties involved (social media, bloggers/front ends, semantic processing houses, and advertising aggregators).
- Mark Essel
What do you mean, I have always been able to finish a ... ooh a nice shiny object...
- Marcel de Jong
Isn't it ironic that this post contained a clear and concise thesis, in under 140 characters?
- Mike Chelen
There's NOTHING wrong with brevity. There is a time and a place for discussion and lengthy discourse.
- Will Higgins™
Mike Chelen - "a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning ... the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning." - Nope, not ironic
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew DeVries: that covers definitions 1 and 2, yet the 3rd is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result," where in this case the expected result was to explain how new platforms prevent thoughts from being finished, and the actual result was to the contrary :D
- Mike Chelen
If you say so. I never saw that definition, but I have no reason to doubt you, or motivation to find the source myself, so, I'll allow it.
- Matthew DeVries
Over 66 million consumers across demographic categories are using the Internet while camped out on their sofas watching TV, according to market research firm In-Stat http://www.in-stat.com. Based on In-Stat’s recent survey, 33% of all male respondents, across age groups, reported that they are sometimes using a personal computer simultaneously while watching TV. Among some male age groups the behavior was as high as 50%. In contrast, about 25% of female respondents reported using a PC while watching TV. “Consumer multitasking represents an important emerging opportunity for the TV industry” says Gerry Kaufhold, In-Stat analyst. “Local TV stations, TV networks, pay-TV networks, 24-hour news networks, sports leagues, and music channels, can instantly connect to some of their viewers, right now, on both the TV screen and on a laptop computer screen.”
- Cee Bee
yep...me too. i tend to think cable providers would be in real trouble if advertisers accounted for how may eyeballs were only 1/2 watching their TVs. I would say 90% of my TV watching is purely background...my computer is just a lot more interesting and usually when I solely watch TV I get an irking feeling that I am wasting my time.
- Jeffrey Marsh
Yup, four of us watching TV last night with 2 laptops and an iTouch. How you can watch TV without a Wikipedia page open is beyond me.
- Ken Morley
I can't do it. I don't multitask that well.
- Lis Miller
I do that all the time. The only time I like it quiet is when I'm on the phone or suffering from writer's block.
- Trish R
I either knit or internet while watching TV. Just watching TV usually puts me to sleep.
- Alix Whitmire
TV Advertisters: Just play techno beats and put up the URL to your store.
- Josh Haley
Not me! I'm simultaneously watching TV and using my Mac. ;) Seriously, though, how else am I supposed to Tweet and FriendFeed about what I'm watching?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
With the exception of watching LOST, I do this. It's the only way I can tolerate the TV. Oddly, when I watch things on my laptop, I brook no interruptions from the other parts of the web.
- Admiral Anika
In Soviet Russia TV watches you while you are using computer...
- Jemm
Well, I work/play on my computer while streaming videos (often TV via hulu or some such), but I don't own a television.
- jojo, adventurer
@ryo of course, the problem is with determining that it really was you that clicked the link. Unsecured wifi access points or guests using theirs/your system at your house muddy this. Then we have the issue of IP addresses being falsifyable what with IP spoofing. An IP address alone shouldn't be used to prosecute you.
- alphaxion
I'm using my PC on a TV, does that count?
- Will Higgins™
I usually have Media Center Live TV in the Background on Cable News while I surf and work. Can't wait till they get Wireless USB up to par to handle TV Tuners.
- Adi
These are predictions. Probably incorrect as is typical in the analyst world.
- coldbrew
I mean, look at your response here. Just ignore it, and it goes away. Nothing abnormal, just ignore the other voices and you can "win."
- coldbrew
Of course the problem is that Forrester stakes its beliefs in the ground, but very few have the gaul to call them for their mis-information. Let's compare past predictions to current results. Who has one of these reports from the past 18 months?
- coldbrew
Why do people equate followers with information overload? People mostly follow you to listen, not to talk...since it's not necessary to follow someone to talk to them...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Tell them what you had for breakfast or what you overheard in a coffee shop?
- Andrew Smith
@Rahsheen I disagree, I think the value of Social Media and things like Twitter is that it's about Dialog & Conversation. Or at least that was the original intent. Now it could be argued that Social Media is becoming "Just Another Broadcast Medium" (Maybe we need an acronym for that: JABM)...
- Erica OGrady
Everyone step back. This is Twitter. If I have 1 million followers, that does not mean that 1 million people are actually all trying to talk to me. It just means 1 million people appear to be interested in what I'm saying.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Duly noted that I NEVER get flowers.
- Admiral Anika
... but somewhat more difficult to deliver to the office...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Good BJs and good cooking = secret to a man's heart. ;)
- Mona Nomura
@Spidra: Hear hear! The number of flowers I've received are VASTLY outweighed by the number of BJ's I've given. I'm feeling extremely cheated (perhaps THIS is why I hate VDay?) @Haggis: Don't worry, we won't. We can't. You men will keep reminding us. :P
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
<serious> Doesn't this lend credence to the saying: Women use sex to get love and men use love to get sex? </serious>
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Mark, I thought that was a concrete fact... And in a related track, I want the eCard that says coming home to a house that someone spontaneously cleaned for me is way more satisfying than a quickie.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Just as a matter of market research only, are there ever any substitutions or rainchecks for bj's? Just wonderin'.
- Martha
Martha dude, there are no substitutions or rainchecks. Just timing. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Agreed. Unfortunately, though, truly excellent ones are rare. Men are as much to blame as women for this sorry state of oral affairs.
- Anthony Citrano
Let us not forget that women like their flowers delivered orally as well, gentlemen. Give and receive, give and receive, that's all I'm sayin'.
- nakachi
At this point, the twins' meandering across the carpet is like freestyle swimming - forward, one arm at a time, body side to side. But they are both rearing up and figuring out their knees could be useful.
- Louis Gray
Be afraid, Louis. My oldest was walking at 9 months and climbing out of his crib at 9 1/2 months. Twins communicate silently and are right now plotting your doom ;)
- Robert Couture
from Friend Deck
Robert, you get it! You think I don't see them babbling to each other over the crib divider, and catch them plotting? It's as if they both choose to, at the same time, go to opposite corners of the room and cause trouble. The only solution? Leashes.
- Louis Gray
I loved the crawling stage. Watching them figure it out is fascinating.
- Admiral Anika
Hahahah ... you have caught them communicating ... you fool! They *want* you to see that ... it is the mind meld that you need to be afraid of. In that, you have no defense :) The opposite corner pranks are just them testing your mettle. Wait till they actually start their evil plan of domination :) :)
- Robert Couture
from Friend Deck
Oh, and don't think that they won't have ways of releasing themselves from those leashes ... Muwahahaha ;)
- Robert Couture
from Friend Deck
We r in ur cribz, figuring out the plotz... or something like that. :) My cousin has twin boys and they're quick. You better be fit to handle the double trouble... :-)
- Holger Eilhard
The scary part is, everytime you turn back, the leashes will be on ... you will never figure out how they do it ... <snicker>
- Robert Couture
from Friend Deck
Love the blur of the "action photo" in the second pic. :-)
- Trish R
Just wait til crawling turns to walking. Hooboy.
- Martha
Just wait for the stair climbing - that's what we're dealing with right now, and it's not doing good for my blood pressure.
- Jesse Stay
Will Matthew soon be crawling his way up toward Seattle?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Once they start to crawl, child-proof your drawers and stairs!
- imabonehead
Crawling leads to the weeble wobble stage, one of the funniest stages.
- Russ Jackson
Cameron, our 6 1/2 month old, is using his arms to army crawl all over the house... it's definitely a whole other ballgame when they're moving around
- Nathan Chase
This is the town my family is from! They actually knocked down my grandma's house to build the parking lot (to be fair she had moved from there some time ago and there was no running water - I remember going there as a kid and having to use the outhouse).
- Jason
Is that the latest from Google Labs?? Babies delivered by email? Great no more morning sickness, and mood swings! I'm sure it's still in beta...
- Daan
The third one down on the left, looks like a very clean and crisp theme. I hope these work for Google Apps, cause labs hasn't even been working for my apps account.
- Jacob Burke
"It's World Records Day today and to celebrate 116 people bid for the Largest Gathering of People Wearing Underpants. Members of Pants to Poverty gathered this morning, when 116 bold and nearly-bare people gave passing commuters an eyeful at St Pancras station. Hundreds of other obscure attempts were made across the globe for the fifth installment of the day."
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
from Bookmarklet
I would have loved to have participated in this, but unfortunately I have the erection frequency of a 8 month old boy. So, I would be more of a distraction than an attraction. *sobs*
- Terence
pants is such a great word, wasted on trousers. Here in the UK if something is a bit lame you call it pants. That really doesn't work with the US meaning
- Toby Graham
doesn't that seem to be a fairly easy record to break? And I wouldn't mind trying, mind you.
- Marko Bon
you should read this follow up blog post to get a better understanding of how the women were selected for the list http://twurl.nl/5vt8ih
- Lynne d Johnson
Wow. And not a good wow, either. Key quote: "Women serving in the military today are more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier than to be killed by enemy fire in Iraq," [Rep. Jane] Harman [D, Calif.] said."
- Ladybug Heather
ugh.Seems to show you what testosterone is really good for:making every living thing around you a victim. Its despicable how studies like this show the rampant social disrespect or slide in respect toward women soldiers/officers, and yet there are incremental changes done(very small incremental changes).Sad
- Terence
And it's nice to see that our military courts are not interested in bringing the rapists to justice, instead choosing to focus on blaming the victim.
- Admiral Anika
Preparing to get blasted for this, but I still gotta say it: from a sheer psychological and propensity perspective, criminals would be better suited to most military duties than most civilians. Please note I said most (as in ground forces etc)...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Unlike, not cool, thanks for the link.
- Mike Reynolds
The rules have been ridiculously relaxed over the last 5 years and criminals have been accepted in the military. I don't know if the rise in rapes have anything to do with convicted felons serving in the armed fores, but the culture of the military courts doesn't help the victims.
- Admiral Anika
@Mike, I know. I wish FriendFeed had a "Thoroughly Loathe" option, to say, "This deserves attention, but I certainly don't LIKE it!"
- Ladybug Heather
Heather, I know what you mean, I was horrified to read this! :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
depends what the make-out leads to. If it's just makin' out then some Damien Rice (Cannonball) Bon Iver (Re: Stacks) or Josh Rouse (Under Cold Blue Stars), but if you're heading through makeoutsville on your way to some place grander then I'd recommend Pulse by Ani DiFranco or Running Up That Hill Mashup (Placebo, Pet Shop Boys, and Kate Bush), or Lust by The Raveonettes. And of course Sade is always a good standby.
- Andrew Kippen
All of you are sublimely fabulous. I am going to put something together with all of these songs. Expect a downloadable mix situation that you can all copiously make out to. :)
- felicious
But, the question remains, is there making out on your schedule?
- Jason Toney
Vanity Fair's "The 25 Best News Photographs" WARNING: These will break your heart and make you feel insignificant. - http://www.vanityfair.com/culture...
I still can't breathe from some of these images...
- Mona Nomura
beautiful. makes me miss when there was passion in the world in some of them. but oy, vanity fair's site is such a cause for "nothing below the fold" - no sites should be below the fold - or they should be JUST below. ecommerce has done studies on it. it been proven to help drive traffic and keeps visitors stickier.
- Patricia
I don't buy Vanity Fair (not interested) but their online publication is phenomenal. If they were to print these, I would purchase without a doubt.
- Mona Nomura
These are gut-wrenching and creepy. Imagine being the person who took the photo! Mona, thanks for sharing tho, these events can't be forgotten.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
First time I've ever had a "Warning" be accurate. Some of these are tough to see. Thanks for the link.
- Michael Pardee
The one that *always* gets me is the jumper from the Towers. I'll always remember those folks.
- Yolanda
I would eat Smarties until I have a stomach ache.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sorry... Smarties would be an egged house. I'm looking for chocolate, caramel, peanuts, salty things, and OMG... if you were giving out Five Star Bars, I'd leave Jason for you.
- Cyndy
Smarties are just part of the mix. I believe in giving the kids a choice -- Smarties, Chocolate, Tootsie Pop, and your Dots/Jujyfruit/Mike and Ike. It's a continuum. But based on this, Cyndy, I'd still get egged. I'll put out a salt lick for you. ;)
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Jay, as long as there is one of them thar chocolate fountains next to it with a straw, it's all good.
- Cyndy
It was like deja-vu all over again, I bet
- Craig Eddy
Chocolate fountains just appeared out of nowhere, like five years ago. You'd be surprised how many problems can be solved with the phrase, "Well, we could get a chocolate fountain."
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Funny Akiva. Sounds like something I would do. lol
- David Cook