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"The [cocos2d-iphone 2d game engine](http://code.google.com/p...) was around well before the NDA was lifted, and it's really something. It's a well engineered piece of work, in my opinion. There are quite a few games released using it, including one I wrote with a friend. Not to self promote, but if you're interested in learning the basics of Cocos2d, you can check out a whitepaper we put together to help other developers get started [here](http://monoclestudios.com/cocos2d...). We have a new version written up will be released simultaneously with the final 0.7.0 release."
- Luke Hatcher
"This is one disjointed article. It starts off by mentioning Left 4 Dead and moves into the history of mods. There's no mention in any of the mod history of Left 4 Dead--until the last paragraph, which cryptically reads "And the launch of Left 4 Dead on Steam will be yet another example of just how far a small team can now go." This feels like a story they've had in the can and just tacked on a lead paragraph."
- Luke Hatcher
"We won't know until the NDA is replaced, I guess. The statement is so vague that it could mean anything. I have to believe they've given in to at least some of our demands, but we just won't know until the full text is released."
- Luke Hatcher
I agree with you Leo, that;s just wrong. Even Microsoft wouldn't do that.
- Tony C. Hall
Wow, if that's right, then that's really wrong.
- will killian
Tiger is a little harsh... But as a general rule, how far should they go back? OS9? Win 3.1? A little extreme I know but I know at least 3 people with iPods who still run legacy OS.
- Johnny Worthington
That's ridiculous. I highly doubt it has anything to do with compatibility with the software. Sound more like a Microsoft move.
- Matt K.
Requires 10.4.9 or later. Even though Tiger runs iTunes 7 just fine. There is absolutely no excuse for this.
- Leo Laporte
That's about the dumbest thing ever. When did Apple become like Microsoft?
- Margaret Kerr
from twhirl
I'm not so sure Leo. The tech spec pages all indicate iPods work with the latest update of 10.4. Might want to check up on this.
- Luke Hatcher
Capitialism is a bitch. Apple is in the business to make money and that is their bottom line. I don't see them rolling out an iPhone or iPod with removable storage (which wouldn't allow such large costs of upgrades to their customers). How easily we forget these companies are not nonprofit.
- rykos
from twhirl
"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind."
- MG Siegler
10.4.9 is Tiger, isn't it? So no need to buy Leopard.
- Luke Hatcher
If your neighbor was told this it was by an ignorant "genius" because it is completely untrue.
- Sidney
yes, it is a tad outrageous; however, it does ensure the stability of the software...one of the many pitfalls of microsoft: supporting legacy software.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
That is just horrible! And to think that Apple had a heart!
- Michael Forian
having just purchased my first Mac, a MacBook Pro...go for it!
- Ryan
I use a mac, but I would NEVER ever accuse Apple of having a heart
- Deepak Singh
Sorry - I misspoke - she has Panther!
- Leo Laporte
Just one of the reasons that I don't like Apple as a company.
- xero
Absolutely - what is the technical reason it won't work with Panther? Panther runs iTunes 7 just fine. Is there some feature of 10.4-10.5 that the iPod requires?
- Leo Laporte
I'll bet it's a DRM issue. Something in fairplay requires a certain version level.
- Adam Turetzky
Is Quicktime still updated for Panther? On the other hand, I don't really see the greed there. It's not like Microsoft is still pushing Win2k or Win Meh ;-)
- Horst Gutmann
Same problem with down rev version of Windows. Bought a new iPod Nano 3G when they came out last year. Would not work on one of my old PC's running Win2K as Apple stopped supporting iTunes for the old MS OS. Had to use a WinXP machine to talk to the Nano.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I think Apple are getting a little too big for there boots. This is utter greed and just makes no sense. I hope they don't become like Microsoft.
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
And why is this a surprise? If you are going to buy Apple products, you know damn well that you're entering a vertical market...
- Jonathan Beckett
yeah well, as the man said: it's a closed system. a bit like in the early days of industrialisation, when the owner of the factory also happened to own the only shop around.... so once you get in, there's no getting out.
- Günther Mulder
from twhirl
Have your friend get a Windows PC. That'll run the iPod. Hehe
- Adam Hechler
That's how Apple gets it money: screwing the consumer
- Outsanity
That is Pathetic....Apple is starting to act like Microsoft
- Matt
from twhirl
My 3g ipod works well with leopard, a shame that they are pulling those strings.
- Terry M. Powell
"Jython has its place though. I use it in OS X when dealing with ODBC in python. JDBC drivers are fairly common, whereas ODBC drivers and python interfaces to ODBC are quite expensive."
- Luke Hatcher
"Jython has its place though. I use it in OS X when dealing with ODBC in python. JDBC drivers are fairly common, whereas ODBC drivers and python interfaces to ODBC are quite expensive."
- Luke Hatcher
"Jython has its place though. I use it in OS X when dealing with ODBC in python. JDBC drivers are fairly common, whereas ODBC drivers and python interfaces to ODBC are quite expensive."
- Luke Hatcher
"Jython has its place though. I use it in OS X when dealing with ODBC in python. JDBC drivers are fairly common, whereas ODBC drivers and python interfaces to ODBC are quite expensive."
- Luke Hatcher
"My thoughts exactly. This line of thinking would only apply to companies like Microsoft, who feel the need, for better or worse, to run everything on their in-house tech. Even so, acquisitions are usually made based on the talents and ideas of the team, not the inner workings of the product."
- Luke Hatcher
"My thoughts exactly. This line of thinking would only apply to companies like Microsoft, who feel the need, for better or worse, to run everything on their in-house tech. Even so, acquisitions are usually made based on the talents and ideas of the team, not the inner workings of the product."
- Luke Hatcher
"My thoughts exactly. This line of thinking would only apply to companies like Microsoft, who feel the need, for better or worse, to run everything on their in-house tech. Even so, acquisitions are usually made based on the talents and ideas of the team, not the inner workings of the product."
- Luke Hatcher
"My thoughts exactly. This line of thinking would only apply to companies like Microsoft, who feel the need, for better or worse, to run everything on their in-house tech. Even so, acquisitions are usually made based on the talents and ideas of the team, not the inner workings of the product."
- Luke Hatcher