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Moved a bunch of stuff into the "Someday/Maybe" file...maybe I need a couple of interns. #GTD
Martin Lindeskog liked this
Give me a call! ;) I will add it as one thing to the Google doc. :) Talk to you soon again.
- Martin Lindeskog
The Next Web: "How to do almost anything with Posterous" (would love to see them become the next Friendfeed) - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Nicholas James, Nilesh, Bill Guthrie and 50 other people liked this
Do you really think it'll be the next friendfeed? Maybe Facebook will buy them out to really screw with us.
- Seth Goldstein
If they start to let me pull in stuff more easily and browse it the way I can my friends on there now, potentially yes.
- Steve Rubel
from email
Nice introduction:) Next FriendFeed, maybe. If Posterous can post like FriendFeed my Google Reader shared items to Twitter I think that for me is all that I need, maybe Facebook too
- krzychukula
I love Posterous. I moved both of my Wordpress blogs over and use it exclusively by posting via Gmail. I do wish that it would allow themes similar to Tumblr.
- Lee Hebert
How can you email a file of more than 25 MB to your posterous blog? One tip I need to know.
- Amani
Is there an email address for Friendfeed? friendfeed@posterous.com doesn't work.
- Ben Hanten
I adore Posterous and see it literally as a blank slate with many options. If you look at many of the amazing ways others are using it, you realize it is the tip of the iceberg.
- Liza
It's a great tool, love using it. I'm still tweaking mine but I'm getting there :) http://jeunelle.posterous.com/ - http://jeunellepunk.posterous.com/
- Jeunelle Foster
A lot of people think so ! Great tool !
- Desirade
Thanks to you, I'm giving it a try.
- ickledot
Guy Kawasaki was all about Posterous last year at Blogworld.
- David Almacy
In September 2008, Posterous was talking about giving users access to themes. Almost one year later... still no themes. :(
- Kevin Donahue
Attention: I am going back to lynx: will report on usability of the web in the first browser I ever used
manielse (Mark Nielsen), April Russo (app103) and Martin Lindeskog liked this
OK, my own MT-based site flunked. Reading it was fine. But any actual interaction/comment posting didn't work.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Ah, old memories! ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
twitter is hung after loading the home page, while trying to log in.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I remember, my first Internet connection was a shell-based account, only option was Lynx, way back in 1992, I think, maybe earlier
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
How does it handle FriendFeed's real-time feed? ;)
- Jemm
Friendfeed did not login - "bad html - use -trace to diagnose"
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
The New York Times loaded very fast, and pages are well-formatted, the story text is visible in a few lines, with minimal scrolling needed
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Many sites also give SSL errors
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Google Reader loaded after a bunch of errors, but gives JavaScript problems and recommends something called "ARIA enhanced Google Reader" - no feeds displayed
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Try the mobile version of Google Reader in it. It might work better. http://www.google.com/reader...
- April Russo (app103)
FFTogo works well in both Lynx and elinks.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
. @lyceum I loved the @smallbiztrends Twitterville review. I've been so busy w/launch, I haven't thought through the FF-FB deal, but I will.
Martin Lindeskog liked this
I look forward to hear your thoughts on it later on. I think I will use FF more and more in the future.
- Martin Lindeskog
@TheatreSmart Thx for the preorder. It really does help authors. Thx to @smallbiztrends for a great review @http://ad.vu/ja8p
Martin Lindeskog liked this
Great interview by Anita Campbell of @SmallBizTrends. I have to add your book to my reading list.
- Martin Lindeskog
Thanks for the link. I will add it to my wish list on Amazon and check the delivery status with an online bookstore in Sweden called Adlibris.
- Martin Lindeskog
OMG! Atheists Exist! : Dispatches from the Culture Wars - http://scienceblogs.com/dispatc...
ProsePetals (aka Denise), Ken Morley, Amy℠ and 46 other people liked this
"...an atheist group takes out an ad on city buses and the city takes the ad down and claims it's offensive. [...] The only thing the ad does is say that atheists exist."
- Tanath
from Bookmarklet
According to the comments the city has already backpedaled but it should never have happened in the first place.
- Tanath
why should it not have happened??
- Rob Sellen :o)
Why? I can't understand how it's ok to have signs about Christians or whatever... (religious signs) and not for the other side of the coin. Just doesn't make sense. :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: That's the point. We're saying it shouldn't have been taken down. There's no good reason. Calling it offensive is an excuse - and if it is offensive, that's their problem (and a serious one if you find simple _facts_ to be offensive). And if you want to start outlawing facts then that's a whole other can of worms... Beyond the facts it's a simple inoffensive message to atheists.
- Tanath
ah I see... OK.. we have seen a similar thing here in the UK, they were on the side of a bus. They were stopped too.. that is wrong to me.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Everyone should have the right to openly express there opinion in a 'free' society but there do need to be agreed standards or we no longer remain civilised.
- Kevin J Hatton
Which is the best place for freethinkers and rational individuals? I am returning to the Land of Opportunity. http://bit.ly/MeltingPot
- Martin Lindeskog
Kevin... civilised? what standards are you talking about? this is just hypocrisy.
- Rob Sellen :o)
+1 Rob
- Edward Zwart
Hey everyone, come and look over here, I've found him! After years of searching I've finally happened upon the last reasonable Christian. His name's Gabe. ;-)
- Slappy Line
I am, of course, just kidding - I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable Christians out there really.
- Slappy Line
There are very reasonable & generally rational Christians... just not when it comes to things like faith.
- Tanath
I have my beliefs. You have yours. I don't try to ram mine down your throat, and I'll thank you for not trying to do that with yours. If you feel a need to go to church four times every Sunday, and a few times during the week too, that's fine, but I don't care, or want to know every time you do.
- Ian May
Ian: There is merit to "live and let live," but on the other hand beliefs matter. Actions are informed by beliefs, and people try to influence public policy according to their beliefs - so debate is important.
- Tanath
Ian, neither a post on a public forum nor an ad on a bus counts as ramming beliefs down someone's throat...
- Mark
I say who gives a rip. Not me. Believe what you want to believe or don't at all. Why should anyone care.
- Danny Minick
I find this thread deeply offensive
- John Hardy
There certainly does need to be equal time on this subject. If the free speech of atheists bothers the religious, why don't the religious have the reaction that, perhaps, their public displays of love for their God might be offensive to the atheists? I personally don't care if someone believes in God or not - I'd just like the entire discussion removed from the public square. (And I'll bet, even having said this, you can't determine whether I am religious or not myself.)
- Ciaoenrico
I choose to believe you're kidding Mr. John Hardy :) (You brought a smile to my face in either case.)
- Eivind
The British comedian Dave Allen said it best: "Go, and may your god go with you." Live your life, keep your side of the street clean, and if I like what I see I will ask you about your faith/philosophy. Attraction, not promotion. Don't trivialize your god/spirit/higher power/whatever by turning him/her/it into a commodity.
- Daniel Fath
Tanath, I've found that many people, even when actual facts are put right in front of them, tend to still believe in what they want to. I'm thinking more of political beliefs rather than religious ones here. What I'm really meaning by my previous statement is that I don't appreciate you (the general you) trying to force me to do what you want to do, when I don't want to. Mark, I wasn't particularly meaning the forum post or the ad, although, the latter could certainly be rather 'in your face' I guess.
- Ian May
Apparently, the offended in this Iowa town haven't heard that there's no such thing as bad publicity. C'mon, believers. You have a bus sign publicizing your eternal purpose, and you get it pulled down? How about reaching out to the atheist group as "free-thinking" believers? Even Paul spoke to locals on their own terms. He didn't demand their pagan signage removed, he quoted their signage in his sermon! (Acts 17:23 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage...)
- Joel Zehring
Yeah, that's what America needs, another Paul. :/
- Edward Zwart
Censoring atheism is religious prosecution since atheism is itself a religion. People have also forgotten that Jefferson, Franklin and co. were Masons and theists, not exactly fundamentalists. The country was founded by men who were largely atheists and freethinkers. The rabid style of fundamentalism first appeared as a product of the immediate post Civil War years. Jacksonian democracy...
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- Carl Gruber
@ Carl, how is atheism a religion?
- Janice
The country wasn't "founded"..it was stolen... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob, sadly, you could say that about a lot of countries in one way or another.
- mikepk
@Ian But isn't all of politics exactly that, us trying to convince (reason with) each other about our beliefs. It's just that when ideology or religion gets in the way that it sounds like forcing. Strong beliefs loosely held still need to be hashed out. The trouble for some points of view is that they don't stand up well to reason. And then statements like the one's in this ad can be perceived as threatening or in your face, when in fact they couldn't be more innocuous.
- Edward Zwart
Yeah you could do... so people shouldn't say they were "founded".. cos that's a lie... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: reminded me of this http://friendfeed.com/mikepk...
- mikepk
ah... I can't see what he says. :o(
- Rob Sellen :o)
Carl: atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour.
- Tanath
Danny Minnick: I just said in my last comment before yours why people should care. To repeat: "There is merit to 'live and let live,' but on the other hand beliefs matter. Actions are informed by beliefs, and people try to influence public policy according to their beliefs - so debate is important."
- Tanath
Tanath... so are you saying I am WRONG to NOT be religious?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: What? o.O Did I miss something, LOL? I wouldn't be saying that, I'm an atheist myself.
- Tanath
ok... lol. :o) god told me to ask... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Is that so? Can you ask him something useful, like how to resolve the conflict between quantum theory & relativity for me? :P
- Tanath
he just went "tut" :o) so.. no idea...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hm, well I tried. :P
- Tanath
koltregaskes: How Posterous could be the next Friendfeed - pingmicro http://ff.im/6rkDd - http://twitter.com/koltreg...
Mats Pettersson, Svartling, Bill Jackson and 12 other people liked this
lol, what a ridiculous statement
- Mark
you still continue friendfeed ? I thought you decided to quit :P
- Melissa Taylor
If Friendfeed was a funnel, Posterous is a trumpet. (Facebook is more trummel than fumpet) #slightlyforcedobjectmetaphors
- goodmachine
Thanks for the fave, Robert. Svartling passed it onto me.
- Kol Tregaskes
I still thinks that Posterous has the potential to take over some of Friendfeeds features. They have great developers too! The comment system is really great.
- Svartling
And here is the link to this post (mine): http://pingmicro.com/how-pos...
- Svartling
more lifestreaming features could come soon in some existing services
- polou/indigo_bow
bbcnews: Facebook turns up the heat on Google with an "11th hour" purchase of content-sharing service FriendFeed. http://tinyurl.com/m8s2yw - http://twitter.com/bbcnews...
Francisco Kemeny, Oğuz Serdar, ilter and 7 other people liked this
Lol... Facebook is not again profitable and has to prove it yet, Google has succeeded its EPO and has 10 billions cash in reserve, plus Google is 70% R&D and the greatest computer capacity in the world. Sorry guy, but you cannot compare both.
- Thierry Lhôte
If I'm not mistaken facebook has an annual revenue of somewhere between 300-500 million dollars. Though this is all hearsay, I'm confident they're making money. And the challenging google is based on facebooks attempt to get into the real-time search game with the friendfeed acquisition. Google has nothing on this front at the moment.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
from iPhone
Sorry guy but you don't read the last news, google has made an improved version of his search engine and it can be tested on line. It IS real-time. Secondly, Facebook loses money, that is why they were occupied all the year of 2008, and they cannot go for an EPO at the moment. Just read the news http://mashable.com/2009...
- Thierry Lhôte
I actually read the news and tried out the new engine for myself, maybe not as carefully or rigorously as you. I think by the time google comes around to releasing this new search engine, facebook will have gained on it by using it's friendfeed expertise. I also I'm using Bing as my default search engine at the moment and find them to be the ones moving into real-time the fastest, though I am sure google has something up there sleeves.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
from iPhone
The engine is ready, http://www2.sandbox.google.com/ and you have already real-time search results in the actual Google, the only adjustment is how you integrate these results with regular search results which is ar more interesting and complex to achieve, Secondly I have yet to see real-time search results on Bing, so how can you find Bing better. If you have ever made some SEO work you could not possibly tell this. And do not tell me that MS or Facebook computer capacity surpass Google's. Please...
- Thierry Lhôte
And find me an article where Facebook anounces that it makes profit. Not EBITDA profit, real sensible profit and no losses
- Thierry Lhôte
I am unable to unfortunately access that page on my iPhone as Google keeps putting a /m behind the URL. I will once more try the new engine from Google tomorrow and look for the real time results. I mentioned Bing in the sense that it is the first and only engine at the moment that integrates Twitter very conveniently into searches. Though only the best are shown right now, I can't...
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- Rahul Krishnakumar
from iPhone
integrating Twitter in the search results is a design decision for Google, not to mess the pages of their regular search. yet you have the home pages of Twitter. Real time exists now in Google search results. And how can Google put a /m on your adress bar ? do you now http protocol ? better ask first Apple what they have sold you.
- Thierry Lhôte
I'm extremely satisfied with my iPhone thank you very much and I'm in no rush to go see the new search engine. Therefore I need not question what apple has sold me. http://www2.sandbox.google.com/m is the URL I keep getting when clicking on your link, likely because google has a useragent string checking the browser from which I am coming. The moment it realizes I am coming from...
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- Rahul Krishnakumar
from iPhone
So are you saying that Facebook is to charge for this service now that they have bought it ?
- Peter Nielsen
Thierry, are you on something? Please relax.
- ilter
Thank You ilter. Apparently I wasn't the only one who saw emotions flying around.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
from iPhone
The Flavor Bible: The Essential Guide to Culinary Creativity, Based on the Wisdom of America's Most Imaginative Chefs - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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PDF Download: Super Secret "How to Guide" for FriendFeed, prior to the real-time push. Who wants me to update this?
miki7500, Nicolas Gosset, Daniel Rowley and 126 other people liked this
And if I take the time to update this for the current site, should the eBook be free? $2? $5? You tell me.
- Louis Gray
you mean this is out of date already?
- Lindy Asimus
It was out of date immediately. But if there is interest from the community and others, I can bring it up to date. (There are many pieces which still are valid, but FriendFeed innovates quickly)
- Louis Gray
I do. On first glance, in its current form, it looks exactly like what could actually be the catalyst for me to actually use FriendFeed. Updated, would probably seal the deal.... Now I just need to find the time to read it thoroughly. Hmmm...
- Joel Strellner
I notice a lot of people I know on Twitter and other networks not yet on Friendfeed. This is a very handy document. Update would be very good.
- Lindy Asimus
Twitter is getting so popular in these day but i think most people dunno about the advantages of friendfeed. For me it's Twitter 2.0 and i think you would help a lot of users with it. I also believe in the power of free, even though i would definitely pay for it. Like Joel Strellner said, seal the deal and make more people understand friendfeed.
- Sascha Pallenberg
FF is powerful, major adoption is yet to come!
- Jonathan Fleming
Louis: looks like a really valuable FF guide, well worth a small fee (like an iphone app), say $1.99
- Geer
great piece of work Life's Good with Louis Gray
- Thomas Power
This is great! I'll pay $5 for the updated version, but you might be able to sell twice as much copies by making it $2.
- Masatake E. Hori
awesome !
- kazuhiko
Masatake E. Hori - Twice as many sales at $2, or half the sales at $5; I vote for half as many sales at $5, He'd make more money for less hassle. ;-)
- Joel Strellner
50% price cut would probably result in a lot higher sales than twice as many. Check out Jeff Atwood's blog article about price points. http://www.codinghorror.com/blog... - "50% sale = 320% increase in sales"
- Travis Koger
But there's the dilemma. Who of us use or really need a guide, here? On the other hand to get 'new' mainstream users an updated guide would help them - if they would find and read it! There's always the 'click-and-explore' crowd - reading (guides/manuals) is sadly a dying art-form older people have adapted, younger ones don't care about. Still a useful thing if you can spare the time for (no) dime;)
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
reminds me mysteriously of the first book about IPv6. Nobody bought it.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
There is still going to be a certain portion of purchases from the current FF community, even if it is just to show support for this type of work and Louis. Same reason why FF'ers purchase FF t-shirts etc.
- Travis Koger
DAYUM, Louis. You're freakin' me out here. Nice work, totally viable, absolutely beneficial to the new user. I'm way impressed. Tweet this I will.
- Christopher Harley
thanks ! But 62 pages of how to just show that FF is not enough #easysimple
- Jacopo Gio
Thanks, this helps. Just coming out of the sitting up stage, making some tentative attempts at crawling: As a new user, I would not have read this if I had been asked for hard payment. In the economy of social media don't you 'pay' with the wisdom-value of your comments and by allowing yourself to be a number on a friend-list?
- Sally Relton Shakespeare
Think of an affiliate plan so that current users can make it available to those not using FF already? Some may be teaching social media to non-onliners.
- Lindy Asimus
Louis - Great job. I'm a huge FF fan and still am finding some very cool tips on how to utilize it. Thanks!
- John: @johnhaydon
I was going to ask when you were going to release this. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Sounds cool. If your trying to get people to adopt and see how cool FF is then it should be free.
- Dusty Edenfield
from iPod
Well ... there goes another book I don't have to finish :) It's a start Louis and much needed.
- Charlie Anzman
Absolutly! And with that kinda quality... $5 is cheap!
- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
Wow, great stuff. I didn't know if its existence before. Rather than updating this all by yourself, wouldn't it be better to turn this into a community-maintained wiki?
- Meryn Stol
What Greer said.
- Josh Haley
Louis: its a very good source thanks. Do you think it makes sense to make this guide like a FriendFeed Wiki so anyone can contribute and changes adopted easily ? Or its not worth it ?
- Jacque
Quick comments: I worked on this at the beginning of the year and would have issued it much earlier, had the planned site revamp not been coming. Part of the reason for its length is that I wanted to be comprehensive, I tend to write a lot, and I included tons of screenshots. Also - the intended audience is not necessarily us, but those who know of FriendFeed, but need a boost.
- Louis Gray
Guidance I received while making this earlier this year was to not give it away for free, and I understand the opportunity for some premium content. As this is antiquated, there is no harm in having it out there for free, but I would make the next one very inexpensive so it gets in the most hands as possible. (Based on this response, I think you guys see value in revamping?)
- Louis Gray
Jacque, if anybody else wants to start a how-to Wiki for FriendFeed, that's great, but I still think you need resource guides that are easily consumable.
- Louis Gray
Louis, first off, I love the drewscancer shirt. Second I think you should update it. I wouldn't charge more than $5 but you could also ask for donations. Just an idea. Great book though.
- Seth Goldstein
I would not buy it but I would download this one and read comments on the new one 8)
- Ru Viljoen
Yes Louis we do need a much more detailed version even though this edition is excellent. If FF is Twitter 2.0 which I agree it is then few people (100k max worldwide) have even realised this yet. Linkedin and Facebook are fading away into general background noise like Yellow Pages. You know it's there but so what.
- Thomas Power
Only half way through it and already found some very useful tips.
- Silver Hage
DEFINITELY YES! I would buy it! I have been on FF awhile and I still am not using it productively - same with LazyFeed- I love both of them but forget them. I have a Seesmic Desktop App - can we talk Loic into adding FF to it? that way it is in my face!
- Robyn Hawk
I now understand how to use the hide functionality better thx.
- Ru Viljoen
I was wondering about this project, Louis :) I think there is value in updating it some and offering it at a very reasonable cost for those who plan a foray into FF - haven't seen much else out there in way of explaining the tool, etc.
- Valeria Maltoni
Are you trying to prove Scoble's point? Why does FriendFeed need a 61 page manual?! :P
- Tim Hoeck
This could be done in 6 pages. But it can be done better, with screenshots, in 60.
- Louis Gray
Make sure Scoble is happy with the UI instructions. :)
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
I would pay $20 if profits went to #blamedrewscancer
- Liza
Roberto, I am not too concerned about Scoble being frustrated today. He is making a point and FriendFeed has a good track record of listening. They have an interesting issue where their product has many different functionalities in a world when people are used to not having choices.
- Louis Gray
Robert also knows that by complaining, it gives naysayers a good reason or excuse for why they are not here. It's not an issue with PR but picking your battles and stage.
- Louis Gray
Fantastic. There are tons of hidden gems in Friendfeed that most people don't know about. If they did, they'd be hooked for life. I do like Meryn's suggestion to make a wiki type section like this.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
Louis - why not a video - better than a PDF.
- Liza
I wouldn't be able to pay but I support the update wholeheartedly.
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from iPod
I was considering writing my own book, very complete & thorough, taking people from total newbie to power user, and including enough info that even current power users might get something from it. I had also planned on releasing it for free, CC-BY-NC-SA
- April Russo (app103)
I'd prefer it in html.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Louis - Think book (you read that right) targeting NEW users if you wish to profit from this (with free online updates as things change). Most people still won't pay for an e-book .... and there's still plenty of (smart) people roaming Borders, B&N etc (and the online book stores, not exclusive of Amazon). That was my target, just got real busy here with other stuff.
- Charlie Anzman
Great work! I have sent a small payment via PayPal. Please inform when you are ready with the updated version and I will send you some more money. All the Best, Martin.
- Martin Lindeskog
I Want To Love Firefox 3.5, But It Keeps Crashing On Me - Switch to Chrome. I did - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"Ever since the new Firefox 3.5 came out about a month ago, I’ve been using it as my main browser. Generally I am very happy with it. Pages load a lot faster than they did before, the plus-sign feature in tabs which launches a new one is a godsend, and I am very excited about the prospects for all of the open video technologies built into it. But there is one persistent bug that might push me to another browser: it keeps crashing on me." Knowledge: http://kb.clipotech.com/chrome
- Svartling
from Bookmarklet
I use it a lot on Windows XP and it doesn't crash. Maybe an issue with the osx version?
- Luis Enrique León
from iPod
Could be. And he is using extremely many tabs too. I use Chrome anyways.
- Svartling
Yes, crashes in Firefox almost every time is caused by some extension not working right.
- Svartling
seems also there are problems with using twitter via web
- Basilio
on windows 7 /Vista = no probs, on windows XP SP3 = no probs, on all Linux flavors = no probs. That is MY experience. (no Mac) - I am refering to Firefox 3.5.2 and without any extra Twitter-Plugins, just calling the Webpage.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
So, it looks like the crashing problems only is on Mac systems then.
- Svartling
It's happens on the PC as well. I switched to Chrome,and other than missing feedly, I'm glad I made the change!
- Michael Fidler
Agree with Michael F
- Matt G
Right now I'm using Safari 4 because both Firefox and Flock are misbehaving on me (Flock isn't even based on Firefox 3.5) and Chrome has problems of its own, though much fewer than Firefox/Flock, much less IE. I'm using WinXP SP3. Chrome and Safari use WebKit, which however has some trouble displaying my blogs...
- Dennis Jernberg
Feedly are working on a Chrome version too. That could be really cool :)
- Svartling
Dennis: What problems do you have with Chrome?
- Svartling
Two, mainly. Occasionally Chrome makes certain links disappear, and I have to go into, say, IE to click them. The other, more annoying problem is Chrome's tendency (at least in the current version) to turn a tab into a new window when I merely click it. Those are the main ones. They could simply be bugs in the current version. But Chrome's still my default browser.
- Dennis Jernberg
Ok. I don't have the problems with links that you have. Making new windows from tabs can be irritating for me too sometimes, but you can always drag the window back to chrome as a tab again. Just as easy as to drag it out :)
- Svartling
Oh, I do drag runaway tabs back. But if you don't have the link problem, you may have a later version of Chrome than mine (2.0.172.39).
- Dennis Jernberg
Firefox crashes on me all the time. I'm pretty sure it's a plugin issue... That and too many tabs running Flash. Or too many open windows, lots of tabs, and the wrong plugin. I had downgraded back to FF 2.x about 6 months ago but... I'm back to running the current version. I run FF in OS X, Linux, and XP.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Yes I use the developer version 3.0.197.11 - No problems at all. Why don't you use the latest versions?
- Svartling
Mark: See my thread here about Firefox plugins and more: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
I've just upgraded. But apparently Chrome wants me to close Safari first; maybe it interprets Safari windows as Chrome ones because both use WebKit?
- Dennis Jernberg
See, a lot of people don't understand how powerful FriendFeed is as a Twitter client. It has better groups. Better search. Better block. etc
Rodrigo Jaroszewski, Adam Kinney, andy brudtkuhl and 44 other people liked this
It just doesn't have all my twitter friends, unless there's a way I can add folks who aren't already here. Is there?
- Sam Grover
there is : https://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Stanislas Jourdan
You can NOT create a need, Robert
- directeur
I know about that. Is there a way to automatically add those that aren't already here?
- Sam Grover
But there could be better ways to add non-friendfeed twitterers.
- 1x29
Calling FriendFeed a twitter client is a bit inaccurate. It can post to twitter and you can read people's toots and reply, but you can't do many of the things that an actual Twitter client (star messages, send and receive DMs, follow/unfollow easily, etc.) I'm not complaining because I don't want FriendFeed to be a full-blown Twitter client- just saying :)
- Brett Kelly
In all fairness FriendFeed has made it as simple as pie for people on Twitter to easily sign in/up with Twitter OAUTH. I just think my Twitter network are brave enough to make new friends :-P
- CannonGod
Yea, since FriendFeed has the twitter firehose, I would like to have a simple way to add all the people I'm following. That may still not work for protected twitter feeds.
- Sam Grover
Sam: You're right, it doesn't. I'd like it to be able to do that thought (add private feeds). I'd have no need to go to twitter.com at all then :)
- 1x29
I curse myself for going back to Twitter everytime I enjoy friendfeed. It's just that I as a media-nobody get more interaction and with more diverse people on twitter; probably my fault.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
That's the truth. I admit, I certainly don't. But I don't see it as Twitter client.
- nicky jameson
No way to add someone's twitter if it is a protected feed. That's where imaginary friend fails.
- Nick B.
@Nick example?
- Sebastian
Add your account or a list to this search ( http://friendfeed.com/search... )and the pop out makes a GREAT twitter app. I have a list called Twitter that I made of people I want to keep up with.
- tomit
Where could I read more about Groups? Did they call it "room" in the past? Best practices and cases? Could it be used as a customer forum and member place?
- Martin Lindeskog
I totally agree scoble! i dont use tweetdeck or seesmic as my twitter client.. i use friendfeed! i read most tweets on twitter from my friendfeed page.. the lists of users here are the best!
- Jason Pollock
Enough already, Rob! You've sold me on FriendFeed!
- Thomas Ward
I hardly visit Twitter anymore - I just sync up my followers every couple of weeks
- Anthony Feint
I like that it has more than 140 character, comments and easy importation of fb and twitter friends.
- Ron Hagenhoff
I do just about everything in friendfeed now. I still use twitter, but I don’t watch it anymore. I still need to implement lists here. I could use some advice on the best way to go about it. I just want the time I spend here to me more productive than it is right now. I’m hoping a little organization will help with it.
- Michael Fidler
@sebastian - create imaginary friend - "starsparkle". Then add the twitter account starsparkle to it = "we could not find the give account". RSS feed is available but password protected - suggestions welcome!
- Nick B.
@Nick Yep, 401, http://twitter.com/statuse... doesn't reveal its contents to the public. Thanks.
- Sebastian
better everything
- andy brudtkuhl
Twitter is down. Oh, what will the SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts do?
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Come to FF!
- Simon Wicks
Give Friendfeed a shot?
- Rubin Sfadj
Hopefully they don't come to FriendFeed :)
- Robert J Taylor
Hang out on FF
- Roberto Bonini
they will spam friendfeed instead?
- Denis
They are so freeeking out.
- SolidSmack
I couldn't tweet about it, so I told my wife instead.
- Patrick Lightbody
Big ups to the FriendFeed massive!
- Josette Torres
I tried retweeting that. *sigh*
- Andy McIlwain
Call them to join friendfeed, and make
- Madhav Tripathi
Hopefully FF won't get killed by the Tweeters flocking over here.
- phil baumann
ok.. here ya go..twitter being down has forced me here. Haven;t tried FF yet so...
- cheapsuits
I suspect the bots will rejoice....
- walidmREALTOR
just like ya possibly twiddle their thumbs...
- Baba
Let's see where these so-called "social media experts" go to fill the void of Twitter.
- Christian
I can't open twitzap.com
- ybs
Can FF servers manage such a massive movement?
- Samuel Goëta
since bots supply at least 25% of Twitter traffic, should we feel the worst for them right now?
- Kevin Norman
write a post about twitter being down as a threat to humanity, may be?:)
- Nikos Anagnostou
Twitter down... can't post on Facebook,,. so it's FriendFeed!
- carrotmadman6
So your're not responsible for that ? Strange... :-)
- Enikao
lay on the floor and spin in circles
- SolidSmack
Maybe the SocMedExperts will go back to Plurk since Scoble likes Friendfeed. :)
- Jay Gilmore
thank God, now we can get back to work
- E.P. Scott
if they are the experts they claim to be then they should be here!
- Mark V. Fusco
Facebook seems frakked too.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I get tweet trough tweetdeck...
- Giorgio
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Maybe read a book for a change?
- Yiorgos Adamopoulos
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
Seems to me like some sort of an (DDoS) attack on Twitter and Facebook.
- Jari Hakkarainen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
You broke it Bob! All this follow/unfollow madness.
- ZuDfunck
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Man imagine if this had happened on #followfriday...
- Rob Paller
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
They'll use Identi.ca ;)
- Nicholas James
No actually the blog: http://status.twitter.com/ ("We are determining the cause and will provide an update shortly.")
- Patrick Mackaaij
Show up here I'm thinking. :-)
- Dion Hinchcliffe
Huge exodus to FF!
- akihito
We will start feeding friends and keeping up our identi.ca 's
- JuneM
They're probably crying so loud right now that they can't do a thing ;-)
- Caio Cesar
What's been the longest twitter outage on record thus far?
- Dusty Edenfield
hmm at least they found a solution with a blog :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
I don't understand why you maintain an account when you have such contempt for Twitter & those who use it.
- Liz
they will cry in their soup
- Bobby Griffith
holiday
- Ronald
it's back up. made ya look
- Kevin Norman
Strangely, search.twitter.com is up.
- Marlin Forbes
Tokyo: I already have a private group setup. Sort of like a bomb shelter in case the rats take over.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
i noticed that twitter is down... anyone know how facebook is ssOOO slow 2...????
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Just noticed it...
- k00pa
do not waste time and do their job :D
- Roldano De Persio of FF
twitter outage and news of the PubSubHubbub feature in Google Reader (http://is.gd/24YvH) make FF look pretty good right now.
- Dusty Edenfield
facebook too! i guess i'm going to have to do something like "get a life" which is abhorrent to me... ^_^
- Kayce Maisel
friendfeed is having some issues but for the most part is still up and going :)
- (jeff)isageek
find another medium such as friendfeed ;).
- rick
Roger, Mr. Scoble!
- akihito
@Sebastian they connected somehow... ahhh scary :)
- Dani Martínez
good. so not the only one with issues with FB.. wel atleast is FF is going strong..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
what we all are going to do??? =) but if seriously i remember this video on youtube - trouble with twitter: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- obolonskyi
They will all sit in their chair and stare at their monitor!
- Gabe Diaz
@Dani, who knows... the might merge or something... explain the strange twitter is pulling fb down 2..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Did Scoble bring Twitter and FB down as he unfollowed everyone ? winks -)
- Del_
This is still up... even this FF tweet. http://search.twitter.com/search...
- Johann Chiang
In the event that twitter goes down I tend to frequent FF more.
- © b e e n s w a n k
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
...and who wins? FF great :)
- Dani Martínez
Was just able to post to Facebook but took several tries. Wow. FF FTW!
- Tom Guarriello
so!!
- abdellah
The smart ones will go to FriendFeed ;)
- Helene
The spammers should go to MySpace...
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
Tweeple will come to FriendFeed!
- LauraLee Dooley
That's why I joined FF a while back. Then I found all the useful features- and the bonus is having Scoble here to show the way.
- Brenda Young
No, the smart ones are ALREADY on FriendFeed :)
- Susan Beebe
and?
- abdellah
@obolonskyi nice. vid.. ROFL... never seen it before...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
This kind of reminds me of a line from Office Space: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."
- Jari Hakkarainen
haha lets get FF down also :D
- Salim Sarımurat
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- Travis Koger
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
FF FTW
- Eran Even-Kesef
Is the Twitter bubble bursting?
- Travis Tasset
Let's see how well Friendfeed handles this Twitter outage :)
- Rene Silva
Re previous comment of mine, 'Nooooooo!' was for CNBC being right, not that twitter is dead. ;)
- Travis Koger
life goes on
- Eran Even-Kesef
Hey don't tell anyone about this FF thing, its our little secret
- Jeff Wiant
Twitter better be back up by the time Rick Sanchez is on CNN this afternoon or he won't know what to talk about ;)
- cjcubs
telnet 80 twitter.com ?
- Gordon Joly
@gordon wont work
- k00pa
FF was down for me for about 10 min just now.
- Dusty Edenfield
Blogger's having some trouble as well
- Crispin Heath
No address associated with nodename (twitter.com)
- Gordon Joly
If friend feed ever gets as popular as twitter were will everyone go to to avoid the popular crowd?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Panic?
- Dean Clark
@scobleizer I'm seeing issues with twitter and facebook. Social website attack?
- Michael Fierro
Panic? Aren't we all used to this already? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
if this is the North Koreans with a coordinated attack I WILL laugh
- cheapsuits
@scobleizer I'm seeing issues with twitter and facebook. Social website attack?
- Michael Fierro
Robert, please follow back 106,000 and everything will be ok))) joke =)
- obolonskyi
I can not play 140mafia!!! This sucks sooooo bad :(
- Sam Beckett
Twitter outage is causing issues with both facebook and friendfeed. I guess we know where everyone is going instead of twitter.
- April Russo (app103)
facebook? no way :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Twitter being down is a a relief to me this morning! Now I can stay OFF it rather than fitting it into every 30 second change of task! n
- Arleen Anderson
at this rate they will have to start sending out junk mail via the post office again... oh the humanity
- Terry Bruce
Let's all chat on Friendfeed
- johnpiercy
from iPhone
Nothing seems to work, I think it will be the Friend Feed greatest traffic boost ever
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
guys, is it Ddos attack? or smth like that? as I understand twitter is hosting somewhere and this datacenter is down. am i right?
- obolonskyi
FriendFeed traffic is rocking now...
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
social media "experts" might need to actually find other work to do.
- Luis Sandoval
thanks God, Youtube is working
- obolonskyi
More info needed. Where is there an alternate feed to real time news?
- SenderOK
seems unlikely I'll do anything productive in the interim
- WarLord
Hopefully they will move to FF :)
- Martynas
it could be ff provocation
- obolonskyi
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
friendfeed rules!
- Kevin Dolan
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- Travis Koger
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
Thank goodness FF is still working. :)
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
Friendfeed + Facebook :)
- Rafa Lacerda
From status.twitter.com: "Site is down 1 hour ago. We are determining the cause and will provide an update shortly."
- Martin Lindeskog
Having issues with Facebook as well as Twitter. Can sign into FB but unable to go to anyones profiles- process just hangs
- outofmyarse
chinese attack? :)
- Roldano De Persio of FF
Touché Robert, Touché
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
"We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly." from Twitter Status
- Kurt Jarchow
North Koreans I tell ya....
- cheapsuits
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
Twitter is Down....panic..run.,,SOS!
- Veetrag
Yeah, had all the characteristics of a DDoS attack. What do perpetrators of such attacks get from doing that, I've never understood.
- Jari Hakkarainen
What will they do? Use FriendFeed!
- Chuck Huckaby
It's official. Twitter's problem is a DoS attack per twitter/status.
- Roger Jennings
shhhh they'll come here
- andy brudtkuhl
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Status Blog says "We are defending against a denial-of-service attack." Mmmm... http://status.twitter.com/post...
- akihito
Friendfeed it is then.
- Aren Grimshaw
Now, It's up!
- Martin Sliacky
Posterous isn't working properly either, at least for me.
- Steven Melfi
http://status.twitter.com/post... We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly.
- Zalt Woo
What does DoS mean?
- Kimberle Kelly
denial of service
- Justin Long
I meant what does denial of service mean? (dumb blonde here sorry)
- Kimberle Kelly
If it's true..or is it propaganda?
- Alex Schleber
It's down, again.
- Martin Sliacky
Tracing route to twitter.com [168.143.162.100] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.1.1 2 25 ms 29 ms 28 ms lo1.br57.fra.de.hansenet.net [213.191.64.45] 3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae1-252.prju01.fra.de.hansenet.net [62.109.64.13 7] 4 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms fra32-hansenet-3.fra.seabone.net [89.221.34.61] 5 120 ms 119 ms 195 ms ash1-new50-racc1.ash.seabone.net [195.22.206.2] 6 125 ms...
more...
- Zalt Woo
Thank you :o)
- Kimberle Kelly
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
some government is DDOS'ing the real-time internet to cover up something :-) http://leeprovoost.posterous.com/the-twi...
- Lee Provoost
hmmm
- abdellah
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Lee this is true too :-)
- Filippo Ronco
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
The realtime updates of the comments is great. FF rulez. Would be better though to have the comment link not on top
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
Go back to MySpace?
- Juliana
Maybe some will switch to FF if twitter is down for a while
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
The twitter bots are rebelling
- Charles
@Flynn, go check out this Greasemonkey script, solves it: http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Alex Schleber
Come here and moan about it!
- Kami Huyse
Read post on 100k unfollow - I love how people are commenting and blaming Twitter being down on that! lol
- Helene
@AlexSchleber: thanks, great :)
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
I hope everyone will be ok...lol
- April Mendez
Hey, can I hang out here on FF while my Twitter is down :)
- Kevin Krewell
Welcome to FF Kevin! You can tweet from here too!
- Arleen Anderson
Thanks Arleen. I hear all the kool kids hang out here now - like Scoble and you!
- Kevin Krewell
I'm glad I joined FF yesterday, great timing!
- CodeSamurai
I also micro-blog or create my own Twitter, but in more than 140 characters.
- polou/indigo_bow
FF and Tumblr are working fine! :-)
- Tim Moore
A good FF day- new familiar faces on this thread.
- E-Advocate Network
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Anderson
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Agreed.
- Greg
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
+1 Sebastian
- Bill Sodeman
I'm hung up on hop 12!
- bev
I love FF!
- John Giglio
come to Friend Feed? Not
- Rob Cairns
You must be dying of laughter now Robert!
- Arleen Anderson
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Louis: that is true. I pissed the bots off.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- Ron Hagenhoff
Businessweek has a good story on Twitter DDOS. Mabe I like it because every company named is included in Twitterville. http://www.businessweek.com/technol...
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RT @poken Poken founder @sdoutriaux talks to @scobleizer about all thing Poken http://siliconangle.com/ver2... (great intro for newbies!)
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I got rapturous, watching your interview with @sdoutriaux, so I had to write a post. http://bit.ly/3MTvIH
- Martin Lindeskog
Shhh, don't tell the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts, but I will follow anyone who comments here (on FF):
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No comment. (disabling comments on this thread - that would be funny :D)
- Micah Wittman
Micah: I'm already following you! :-)
- Robert Scoble
is a like the equivalent of a comment? And by follow you mean on FF or on Twitter or on both?
- Sean Scott
Sean: not really because if you comment I can see if I'm already following you. And, yes, I mean on FF.
- Robert Scoble
Hello :)
- Brandon Roeder
That's really awesome of you, Robert!
- Harald Nesland
Spammers ruined email and now they are hitting Twitter in a major way. How can we stop this scum?
- Chris Rodgers
Beau: I'm already following you.
- Robert Scoble
Awesome. Hi Robert :)
- Andy Parkinson
It's an ugly world when Scoble stops autofollowing.
- Michelle MacPhearson
Did FriendFeed make you say this?
- Social Nerdia
No love for SEO experts? AWESOME.
- Than R
@robert i think we're already following each other on FF. :P
- Sean Scott
Thanks for posting Robert. I enjoy reading your material.
- Allen S.
Didn't send that one from Twitter. ;-)
- Kathy Fitch
Are you openly admitting to being easy?
- Lydia Sugarman
I am not a bot, I am a human being!!!
- Daniel Buckley
@stevenmhall likes this -- thanks for your work. and the great green picture
- steven
Nothing more to say
- Mel Buckpitt
I already follow you, but interesting experiment
- Cam
I just gave you "High Five"! Check it out: http://bit.ly/5sHMZ You should send me a gift back ;)
- Louis Gray
✔ Thx for ☛ Follow :-) Good idea. I do not speak to those things anyway
- RetiredTeacherD
SocialNerdia: no.
- Robert Scoble
really? neat...
- Jorge Chapa
Follow Sunday? ;)
- Ideas At Random
LOL ... this is fun.
- Richard Laksana
At least I'm not the only one who thinks SEO isn't everything.
- Leon Bacud
Hmm… I may just be more active in FriendFeed.
- Evan Hindra
The above is an actual DM spam I got today. :)
- Louis Gray
Leon: if you abuse SEO types they send Google Hate your way, which, by the way, is the same thing as Google Juice.
- Robert Scoble
neat idea!
- Aloke Fernandes
So we get to be in the cool club? Yay! ;)
- Vicky Teinaki
watching this list expand is more fun than anything on TV right now.
- steven
But Robert what will all the Bots do without your input.
- Pentaxfan
This is fun! lol. Follow me! @thehenry
- TheHenry
Is Google juice akin to Google Kool-Aid?
- Stefan Holmes
evangelizing aint ya
- Luka
I think Robots get a bad rap ;)
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
What's this FriendFeed thing? Back to my safe, comfy home on Twitter.
- Dan Grossman
I expected more comments, oh thats the idea :-) shhh everyone
- Andrew Nimick
Is there something to be gained by following someone on both FF & Twitter?
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
WT?? @pogmohoin needs to be loved again.. now how did you do this cleanout again?? Australia Out..
- Pogmohoin
I'm already in but i wanted to get in the fun!
- Fee501st
I just noticed that Scobleizer unfollowed but am glad it was for the above reason and he unfollowed a lot
- Allen MacCannell
I am all flesh and bones Robert :D
- Antonio Montero
Rob: FriendFeed is better.
- Robert Scoble
Louis, NOW I know where all those are coming from. Time to blacklist you ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Friendfeed FTW!
- TheHenry
Not a bad filter at all.
- Robert Anderson
Why would you want to follow me,i have nothing to offer but my ears to learn.
- Paul Downing
Hi Robert, I'm a real person and would love to be followed.
- Steve de Mena
What if the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts all comment here?
- Andrew Trinh
Word up
- Charlie Haims
Scoble smash Twitter spammer like Hulk!
- Peter Hodges
from iPhone
Dare I?
- Spidra Webster
and then I will comment on whoever follows me here...
- Alpay Erturkmen
Louis, I recently got the "high five" DM spam, too. So off-putting!
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
I just need to spend more time setting up FF so it is my friend that intercepts all my social media content but only from who I want to read!
- Pentaxfan
Friend feed seems like mainstream to most serious ones?
- jibzy
Friendfeed has it's strengths once you get it setup
- Chris
@robert whether or not FF is technically better than <insertsocialnetwork> its really a question of said network reach
- Sean Scott
Once a week I go through my followers and delete most/all of the spammers, but I only have like 50-60 so it's not hard to do.
- Allison Warnock
Let's hope the spammers and bots and etc don't attack us here on FriendFeed next. I won't tell them if you don't.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Sean: well, FF has better search, grouping, real time, a better community, and more.
- Robert Scoble
Sean, you have to start somewhere!
- Pentaxfan
Really Robert? Will you follow me here or Twitter
- Kevin Krewell
Last time I checked I was human.
- Luke™
Kevin: here.
- Robert Scoble
I think you're already following me.
- Danny Minick
In two years on Twitter I have never used any bots nor even tried to sell anything. I always look at profiles personally before following anyone and have never been concerned with how many are following me.
- Gord Young
That's nice of you.
- Michael Owens
from iPhone
Why?
- Stefano Maggi
from iPhone
Yea, i dont want FF to get has "known" has twitter, I'm selfish
- Fee501st
Mainly on Twitter myself, but everything updates to here + I tie in a couple things through here to Twitter.
- Chris
Will you actually read my posts?
- Kimber Scott
oh really :D
- Sinem Co
See, cross posting that offer to Twitter is misleading
- Kevin Krewell
It is fun to watch my follower ## on Twitter go between 200 and 230 it is a constant battle to see what I post. Just not that interesting at times!
- Pentaxfan
Interesting project! Please follow us @streamfile :)
- Kimmo Gläborg
Checking in here...hope we continue to follow each other, Robert!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Even if we write in Turkish?
- Emre Güneş
@robert again not arguing with you. I think better community in your POV but from marketing / UX pov not yet.
- Sean Scott
thank you -
- pat o'bryan
I'm pretty sure I've commented here before Robert, but you don't follow me here or on Twitter. Not that I want you to under just for the sake of it...
- Gurpreet
Today's secret password is "cheese".
- Andrew Smith
And you don't have to read everything we say, my God we can't keep up with your feed! But it's nice to always be assured there will be something in my Friendfeed from Scoble. And more Scoble and more Scoble!
- Keith Rowland
...only if you actually find my tweets interesting enough.
- Gurpreet
It's Unfollow Sunday. Just purged all the bots, spammers, SEO/social media types from my own Twitter account. I never autofollow. Still got the "high five" DM spam, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Nice when you integrate Facebook and twitter and multiple accounts so you can read all at one place. I have to say I use Seesmic to read posts more than FF.
- Pentaxfan
Count me in too, please :)
- 1x29
bit bucket... here i come :) ps: scoble, what if we just "like" your post ;)
- simran
@pentaxfan of course. not wanting to start a FF vs Twitter debate. just saying the glasses through which we judge better or superior are diff based on our interests. Plus in the end FB will take it all :P
- Sean Scott
This is a sly way to get us to sign up for FF :)
- valb00
@valb00 said it!
- Dennis Jernberg
According to my following list, Scoble was the second person I followed after joining Twitter. A long time ago that was.
- Stephen Sclafani
UX tip for FF. Be nice to be able to click on the comment link at the end of a comment stream. Having to scroll back up on these long threads breaks flow.
- Sean Scott
Kimber: wait and watch http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see if I like any of your posts. I read a LOT and if you are posting interesting stuff I'll probably like it.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: click twice on the time stamp and you'll get a window of just this chat and you'll see a comment entry area at the bottom.
- Robert Scoble
Kurt: maybe!
- Robert Scoble
Sean Scott: Click on the timeline (the '5 minutes ago' bit) :)
- 1x29
You will end up following me anyway. They all will. :)
- Matt G
But you're already following me here on Friendfeed, Robert. How is Twitter going to be different?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
FriendFeed is better, deeper, yet Twitter works better on the go
- Majento
There's a lot to like about FF, except it needs a bigger community. Twitter is like the iPhone - for iPhone it's all the applications, with Twitter (and Facebook) it's all about the number of poeple.
- Kevin Krewell
following me is good stuff :-)
- N.G. Gordon - RadarSync
@Sean, that is why we are always looking for new and improved apps to operate at a better level with more consistency. Take it easy! I'm off to bed for my 5 hours of mediocre horizontal time out.
- Pentaxfan
Hi Robert, you are obviously going to be following a lot more people. Thanks.
- Rob Zachritz
And I return. (Just cleared my account so I can start afresh with friend lists) :)
- BeauGiles
Is this an experiment?
- Theresa Shin
so will you follow me too
- aybars badur
Theresa: no, I do this from time to time and always find interesting people to follow.
- Robert Scoble
FF hmmm about that...
- Philip Small
Robert, you have lost a lot of followers. I have been watching all night.
- TheHenry
I don't get the appeal of auto-following. I for one would not want thousands of updates showing up in my timeline.
- Alex Knight
Twitter -ly ♪ and FriendFeed -ly ♪ livin' in perfect har-mony ♪♪♪ LOL Why can't we be friends ♪♪♪
- RetiredTeacherD
Just created a corporate FF account so you can follow our corporate Twitter at http:/www.twitter.com/senderok - Plug-in with anti-phishing icons for the inbox and photo business cards in the header pane
- SenderOK
I'm here I'm here! :D just curious, what do you have against SEO and Social Media experts?
- Celia
Really? BTW I'm just a regular geeky gal.
- Teresa O
TheHenry: and I will lose even more this week. No biggie. I don't define myself by who follows me, especially if they are there just to get a follow back.
- Robert Scoble
@Scobleizer is a man of his word
- Charlie Haims
Okay Scoble I'll bite...
- SalvadorM
Joining the experiment
- Jan Schultink
robert, you are a "pearl" under all the blogger,.........and i'm sure, you know that!!! sunshine and light to you from france, martin
- martin
I'm awake and listening!
- Graham Lawrence
To all those new to FriendFeed, remember to add your Twitter, blog, Flickr, YouTube, and other accounts so we can see all your stuff!
- Robert Scoble
...and I was wondering where is my one-lost-follower...here on FF.
- Danica Radovanovic
hello, I am an italian SEO expert :)
- Roldano De Persio of FF
I have nothing to say
- Paul Denlinger
@Paul, I was going to say that.
- Justin Yost
You should follow a game designer, Robert :)
- Kurai (ff)
Federico: I'm already following you. Roldano: I'm already following you too, but don't let it get out.
- Robert Scoble
Shea: yes. This is where I spend most of my time!
- Robert Scoble
That's encouraging
- Keith - @tsudo
I cannot recommend following me, I rarely have anything interesting to say.
- Shaun William
What's the catch?
- Rory Conway
We're already facebook friends. And I think friendfeed friends too. But FF just hasn't hit critical mass yet. It'll be cool when it does. Nice job throwing another rock at the hornet's nest! :-)
- Dan Becker
Rory: the catch is I might like one of your posts and then you'll have to deal with my other friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm glad to know that you are still interested in hearing from us :), I'm @tsudo
- Keith - @tsudo
scoble i like you man, but you're crazy
- patrick
I applaud your mass unfollowing, but following back via FriendFeed comments seems inefficient (says me, the efficiency consultant).
- Marina Martin
Dan: well, that's what Twitter gets for treating me like a lame early adopter that isn't needed anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Cool - I'm in. Thanks Robert - from the land down under.
- Monte Huebsch
Marina: you haven't discovered that FriendFeed has groups yet, have you?
- Robert Scoble
patrick: crazy like a bat!
- Robert Scoble
I need to better utilize FF groups.
- Justin Yost
Ouch Robert! Telling it like it is to Twitter
- Keith - @tsudo
Do you never get SPAM in FF?
- RobinDotNet
You might regret that :-) But thank you
- Stephen Baugh
Hi, i had created a new website name http://bit.ly/Od5Xx now please guide me in increasing traffic
- mohammadhassam
Robin: I have only seen a handful of spams here. They are easily blocked and there are other defenses against them that I won't talk about here.
- Robert Scoble
Are we not allowed to comment if you are already following us?
- RobinDotNet
Are all those SEO types you're unfollowing now following me?!
- Dennis Jernberg
@Justin, try this for a starting point for using groups http://www.knowthenetwork.com/blog...
- Keith - @tsudo
Okay ))
- Manila Envelope
Yet another comment, from an ordinary twitterer not a spambot. :-)
- Joshua Lee
is this a bait to get more people to use friendfeed? ;-)
- Ritu
Robin: I like all comments. I can see who isn't following me because their icons are white. Yours is blue.
- Robert Scoble
speaking of spam, twitter seems like it's about 90% spam lately
- Derek Chilcoat
Robert -- that's good to know. Those people are insidious. Will you ever tell us how to block them?
- RobinDotNet
It'll be interesting to see who follows the leader to @schoolpr.
- SchoolPR
The SEO experts, bots and social media experts don't have good content, and FF makes their crappy content easy to hide, and ignore, too.
- Andy Bakun
Thanks @Keith
- Justin Yost
Andy: bing!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, was that an endorsement of bing? ;-)
- RobinDotNet
SEO experts endorse bing. ;-)
- Joshua Lee
@Justin (1 more) my friend Ken did a great post on groups as well http://www.changeforge.com/2008...
- Keith - @tsudo
Why, oh why is my first thought to respond with "FIRST?"
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
I'm not a bot :-)
- Nir Ben Yona
Jon: I want to respond with "penultimate." :-)
- Robert Scoble
Even me???
- Kevin Arth
Can't imagine this won't end in a big mess...
- Justin Howard
Nir: I know you aren't a bot. That's why I follow you.
- Robert Scoble
wwooww :)
- Emre BAHADIR
So far not a spammer has shown up.
- Robert Scoble
commented!
- Jeremy Lane
I think scoble is on Twitter just to get people to read friendfeed. :-)
- Joshua Lee
Joshua: no. I'm here to talk about the 2010 web. :-)
- Robert Scoble
This is some elaborate mind game, I'm sure:)
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Can we put some restriction on bots . means use some software who block them
- mohammadhassam
Joshua, i liked your Bing comment :-)
- Majento
and the 2010 web is.... friendfeed!
- Joshua Lee
Thank you, Sir. I'm impressed. :)
- Kevin Arth
Joshua: the real time web is only one part of the 2010 web.
- Robert Scoble
Ah, I think you may already be following me, but just in case...
- Ranger Craig
Nice
- Fred Morales
Thing I don't like is that FF doesn't have a very good topic when the primary line is directed at twitter. There may or may not be a link to something after FF part. Which means FF becomes a bit of a treasure hunt. I like FF for commentary but I hate the initial post.
- Justin Howard
SPAM. :)
- Jason
BACON :-)
- Stephane Tsacas
Even your archnemesis?
- Erik K Veland
Mona :-)
- Majento
Mmmmm. Bacon.
- RobinDotNet
Erik: I would even follow Mike Arrington, yes. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer?
- RobinDotNet
what are some other examples of 2010 web, Robert Scoble?
- Joshua Lee
Ok Robert I got it ;)
- Roldano De Persio of FF
Count me in :) http://www.twitter.com/stanley...
- Stanley Tang
Robert: Thanks mate, interesting and probably efficient idea. I'll do the same for quality content, tired of those "I just used whateveryoucallit.com to gain 300 new followers right now!".
- Nir Ben Yona
whateveryoucallit.com domain name is already taken :-]
- Stephane Tsacas
Hi Robert, I had to do the exact same thing to nail all the twit spam I was getting. Hope you get it all sorted!
- James Brown
Even as we sit here, my iPhone dings with new follow e-mails from spam/marketing people. Sigh.
- RobinDotNet
Stephane: LOL, probably. I took this line from Chris Brogan's "Twitter Etiquette Guide".
- Nir Ben Yona
Robin: on Twitter, though, right?
- Robert Scoble
wow been fascinating watching this exercise :-)
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
So this is like a captcha?
- Dylan Verheul
also on twitter?
- Sinem Co
The joys of not being internet famous means I can check out followers personally, block where required and I've only ever got about 2 DM spam. But with the volumes that Robert gets, it's obviously not possible.
- Rachel Clarke
TwitterEtiquetteGuide.com is available ;-)
- Stephane Tsacas
I think Twitter needs something like captcha to keep the bots to a minimum, IMHO.
- Dennis Jernberg
Nope, I'm just following here.
- Robert Scoble
But feed your Tweets in here and what's the difference?
- Robert Scoble
OK, thanks :)
- Sinem Co
Hi Robert, I've been following you quite some time, and what you do here is very open and brave too, congrats!
- Kaan Bingol
This must be a plot to move everyone to FriendFeed ;-)
- Masatake E. Hori
Masatake: plot #458.
- Robert Scoble
Great thanks for the offer and follow
- Stephen Brown
Masatake: I think you're right. :-)
- Joshua Lee
Robert -- yes, on twitter. It seems the more you tweet, and the more people you communicate with, the more spammers follow you. Hoping for auto-follows I guess (I disappoint them in that regard.)
- RobinDotNet
No offense, but what is the utility of being "followed" by someone who already follows tens of thousands?
- Derek Pangallo
Good way to filter, you know the spammers don't actually read anything or participate
- Justin Luey
Derek: why don't you see http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see just how many people I touch.
- Robert Scoble
What is the utility of being "followed" by someone who doesn't tweet and who follows thousands? What do they do, sit at their terminal and watch the tweets go by all day long?
- RobinDotNet
hi Robert u r already following me how r u?
- Gaith
I dont get it.
- Andru Edwards
yeah? I think most spam bots have the AI to search for such threads!
- Rohit
Derek: or how many people I interact with. Check here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... 28,000+ comments.
- Robert Scoble
oh, hi there!
- Jeremy
Gaith: doing fine, gotta work on my videos, but thought I'd do this instead.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: I'm guessing the mass followers rarely take a look at the flow - it's about being able to talk about the numbers
- Rachel Clarke
No
- Michael Fidler
Yes
- Michael Fidler
follow me on twitter please...
- Özgür D. Cyric
First day on Friend Feed and Robert Scoble is available. What a welcome.... Carey@holisticdds
- Carey O'Rielly
What will you do when the spammers/SEOs infest Friendfeed, as they will, or do you believe this is better crowdsourced and will be able to hold against the hordes?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Rachel -- But numbers alone don't mean anything. Are they that shallow? That must be a stupid question.
- RobinDotNet
Is this going to be the 'most-commented-ever' post on Friendfeed? 240+ already!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Aaman: FriendFeed is FAR more defendable against spam than Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
and how would this benefit people who follow Robert Scoble?
- Seyfi Erol
Mahendra: probably not.
- Robert Scoble
That seems like a good idea, but I think you're already following a lot of these people
- Carlton Prest
Seyfi: why don't you follow me and see how it goes?
- Robert Scoble
I've gotten 4 follow e-mails since my first post here from people I don't want to follow. Do the bots start running right around midnight?
- RobinDotNet
Mahendra, you're not following the threads in Russian (that's my only hint) :D
- Micah Wittman
Robin: oh yes. But I'm never sure what's worse. the people who just want to talk about the numbers or the people they may be able to impress.
- Rachel Clarke
Aaman - Friendfeed doesn't make link-tracking easy, so it's less interesting for spammers to infest.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Is this a test of interaction or more likely a sort of audience verification?
- Gilgamesh
Robin, it's 9am !
- Stephane Tsacas
Gilgamesh: it is what you want it to be. For me I followed you.
- Robert Scoble
If twitter is noise, and FriendFeed is conversation, Robert Scoble followers are their own discussion. It's like using an entirely different website.
- Carlton Prest
Rachel, that's a good point. Is Facebook the same way? I joined that and suddenly got all these people I've nothing in common with who want to be my friend. Creepy.
- RobinDotNet
@Micah: Oh, good I don't read Russian! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Scoble: you convinced me! (thought you just needed self-validation, sorry)
- Derek Pangallo
Derek: heh, yeah, I am watching this, among other things running across my screen.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: Facebook is the same but I think to a lesser extent - it's harder to find people I think. But still got a load of friend requests that I ignore as I don't know them
- Rachel Clarke
Robin: you mean like people you went to high school with and didnt' like adding you on FB
- Derek Pangallo
I already do. what i mean is if we don't keep FF, Twitter limited to our interests, wouldn't it be garbage we already try hard to get rid of. Or how far can we extend our interests in life or amount of information we consume?
- Seyfi Erol
Derek -- I mean people I really have NO connection with at all. I've only friended a couple of people I work with, and 2 other real friends. I'm getting friend requests from people I don't know at all.
- RobinDotNet
Seyfi: you haven't discovered FriendFeed's groups and lists yet, have you?
- Robert Scoble
I got a Russian-speaking follower on Twitter. I didn't follow him because I don't understand a word he tweets.
- Dennis Jernberg
Mahendra, And I've been told http://translatorize.com has successfully translated all 6000+ (oops - update: 7000+) comments http://friendfeed.com/ideali... from Russian to English :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks Robert!
- Jan Ignatius
from iPhone
Seyfi: you can separate your friends into lists. That way you can keep your quilting buddies separate from your football ones etc.
- Robert Scoble
I'm the spammer u follow alrdy HA!
- Rich Weaver
Did you know that Facebook has started selling parts of itself to the Russians? At end of May, they sold 1.96% stake of Facebook to Russia's Digital Sky Technologies for $200M.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I shouldn't have underestimated you. You probably have started much longer comment threads on Friendfeed before.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Mahendra, Robert, I agree, FF has been very good at keeping out junk
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Micah: Uh, wow!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Mahendra: I have. I gave away $5,000 once and got more than 1,000 comments on that. But that cost me a lot of cash. Can't afford to do that again.
- Robert Scoble
DST is run by Alisher Usmanov who is closely tied with Putin. You feel ok to that, but re-read the company's user agreement where it says it can share all of your info with third parties. Of course, it's irrelevant to this thread, but I thought it was interesting.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I think your Twitter follow is worth more than that?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Even if it's a lame comment and I don't actually say anything? Woohoo! FF looks interesting anyway,,,
- Matt Harward
Yes, Matt! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm @odie on twitter
- Odi Chi
FF is interesting assuming the topic is FF... and/or Scoble's next devilishly clever stunt to generate FF comments
- John Hardy
John: there are lots of interesting topics here on FriendFeed. Did you know you could search by them based on number of likes? Click "Advanced Search" and try.
- Robert Scoble
John: Nope. Twitter's 'bout Trends, FF's 'bout Friends.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Very bold, I like it, are you going to keep the people you follow under 2000?
- Joe Dawson
from iPhone
Tell me the newest best way to use FriendFeed!
- Shoichi
I notice that one of the prolific thought-leadering traffic drivers I follow on twitter basically tweets everything he reads, before he reads it. This has lead to spam a few times. disappointing.
- Derek Pangallo
I'll not tell anyone ;)
- PaperDoll
I hope I am interesting enough to be followed! lol
- Carlton Hackett
Some of the reactions to what you're doing are pretty interesting, Robert.
- ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
Social media experts? What are those?
- Alasdair Munn
But what if someone doesn't want you to follow them :) ... It's not me....
- Amit Nangare
lmao
- Andy Ghozali
woww! that is a lot of comments.
- Sumanth Kolar
Joining bandwagon.
- mwydro
Yo Robert: a man has to do what a man has to do, so one surfer to another: go for it!
- Geer
Here here! A good cleansing is good, now and then... Starting fresh is the way to go, get all of that nonsense out and maintain a core group of people for solid conversation!
- Brian Partridge
Great taking the tour w/ you, Levar Burton & @VegasBill during CES 09 at the Atomic Testing Museum. I would appreciate the follow back. Thanks Robert!
- Chris R
There is change in the air...
- Zack Brandit
Chris: I'm already following you, no need to beg! :-) That was fun times, wasn't it?
- Robert Scoble
You've got to admit anyone who's on friendfeed instantly gets more exposure since it nicely imports people's public @ reply's anyway?
- Matt Randles
I'm a ff fan;)
- Cheray Bressler
from iPhone
Thanks for following back on Twitter Robert. Cheers from Las Vegas!
- Vegas Bill
I'm pretty sure we're friends here, only just wish there was a easy way to check... and if there is, that some one will let me know....
- Grant Bierman
this is such a classic move! well played.
- laura
So why can't SEO people be tech as well? Actually requires a good tech aptitude.
- Paul M Evans
from iPhone
I'd like to see how many comments this one gets :) and i'm assuming you mean follow here on friendfeed.
- Bhowmik Shah
Make sense, Scoble :)
- Grant Laird Jr
Just out of curiousity, why are there fewer spammers and bots on FF compared with Twiitter? Is it because they haven't discovered FF yet?
- Sally Church
from iPhone
there are occasionally spammers on FF but I think they mostly get handled quickly vs Twitter where more than occasionally clusters of spammers just follow each other...
- Shannon Clark
Choose wisely :)
- Ozkan Altuner
Go FF its the Best
- Robert Wheeler
followww meee
- Thomas Christory
Scoble-plicity .-)
- Del_
I use TweetLater to vet new followers. Helps get rid of spammers fast.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Wow! I've never seen so many people comment on Friendfeed as much as this!
- Armand
Yo! peteryared on twiter :)
- Peter Yared
This is #scoble at server irc.friendfeed.com I beleive ;-)
- Stephane Tsacas
Your biggest fan and follower in Cambridge, UK. Thanks for the DuoFertility video. Great as ever.
- Philip Baddeley
Fantastic, I want to be followed :-)
- Antonio Correnti
What if your already following me? Do I still need to comment here?
- CW™
Sally: I don't explain spam defenses in public. I don't want spammers to figure them out. But there are quite a few defenses against spam here.
- Robert Scoble
Refollow me on Twitter! @carloscomputers
- carloscomputers
nice one
- Ken Post Jr
I was surprised about the spammer comments, until I started getting female nude model followers and I'm a women. Maybe a nude male model but not Sparkle or Hootie McBoob
- Corrine Pearce
Corrine: hope you don't see that here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Why are you doing this? You have one of the best listening audiences on twitter! Is there a point to prove that we will post here or go to wefollow?
- David Cole
Now those not on FF will miss this one;)
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
David: actually that's not true. Most of the Twitter audience I had has moved over here.
- Robert Scoble
I'm intrigued and will watch with interest -- and hey, you're always interesting. Well worth the follow!
- Don Tamihere
real-time on FF is awesome
- nchenga
David: and I can prove that. Twitter's audience has become less and less engaged lately.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, powerful shift by Robert Scoble, I'm really interested in seeing how this works for you Scoble. I slept through all the big news here tonight.
- Jimminy Fuller
Always up for your social explorations Robert.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
And you're not even halfway through the unfollowing process. :)
- Ken Brady
wao, let's good.
- naokits
Interesting experiment. This is probably one the most commented feedfriend threads in history!
- Menno te Koppele
Plus, David, if you all are listening, you are listening because of my ability to find cool stuff. Mostly that's been because of FriendFeed over the past 18 months. Now I've seen how ascerbic Twitter's spammers have gotten on my accounts.
- Robert Scoble
agree, it's an interesting experiment.
- nchenga
Menno: actually it's not. There are many 1,000+ comment threads here.
- Robert Scoble
Here's a search with all 1,000 comment threads displayed: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Interesting. This is going to boost 1000 egos for sure :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
So will it be a matter of just trying to say ahead of the spammers by jumping from one early adopted social network to another?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
JP: no. I am not leaving Twitter. I AM, however, deleting all their accounts so I will no longer be passing them juice.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder how will your FF homepage look like after this.
- ahmet bulent
Does this make you anti-social media?
- Cory Brown
To follow commenters from here on Twitter will be a lot of work for you Robert. Or do you have some magic tool that helps?
- Tibor Holoda
Robert, how many of the 100k do you think you'll still be following when you are done?
- RobinDotNet
~~~> Robert!! Follow me back again. [a] I'm a real fan of the @Scobleizer... and [b] I'm much nicer than some of these sassy bloofers. ;)
- Kim Sherrell
1,100
- Robert Scoble
That's good to know.
- George Hall (Australia)
So what if you have all 58k + comment on here? And you have to keep everyone! And your plan is foiled, sir. Okay give or take 10k for the neglected abandoned twitters and the spammers. Btw, you're already following me on both twitter and here. But come on, you're not really. : /
- Lise
That's cool. I am finding the spammers too much to manage these days myself.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
I promise I want tell them
- Noel Kelly
Because I can't keep myself from doing math, that's 1.1%.
- RobinDotNet
Lise: I see you a few times a day, but you're right. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Are you trying to make a point about FF v Twitter? I have spammy things to say about my amateur photography, potential homelessness, and run-ins with public-run health system in the US. Isn't all Twitter spam--just spam you want? :)
- Dean Hall
the auto-refresh on this thread is mind-blowing, fun to watch
- nchenga
Do you ever worry about SM burnout Robert? How do you pace your self?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Interesting to note many of most commented threads are in languages other than English. Can we suggest FF has a better international appeal than Twitter?
- Kaan Bingol
Good idea, as you say, stop juicing up the spammers - it'll be interesting to see the stats once you've finished.
- Andrew Piggott
Dean: your Tweets aren't spam. I might keep you. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I only followed people who were interesting to me, otherwise it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack of brain dumps.
- Daniel Durrans
Exactly. So I expect to be cut. And considering I'm in a crowd of close to 60k, it'll be the same thing.
- Lise
There should be a counter in front of the comments...
- Willem Karssenberg
okay seriously ?
- Asankhaya Sharma
What sort of comments do you want Robert?
- Travis Koger
Lise: actually no. On FriendFeed I can absorb quite a few more people than on Twitter thanks to Groups.
- Robert Scoble
a good cleansing is wise once in a while :) Power to the (real) people.
- Benjamin
Travis: I'm already following you.
- Robert Scoble
Lise: and because FriendFeed's search engine is better here too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah I know. Thought you might have meant for your secretscoble twitter account ;)
- Travis Koger
It's kind of like a giant SM break up Robert. *Oh the hearts you are breaking...*
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
I'm fairly selective about who I follow and I follow so maybe you will follow me back!
- Richard Cunningham
from iPod
Robert, care to explain how you use groups in this kind of context? Because I don't get the point of following people who are then placed into a "I don't read this much" kind of group. How do you use groups so that you're (1) not overwhealmed, and (2) actually read what people are saying?
- Ian Betteridge
How many people do you expect to end up with, Robert? What is a reasonable number?
- Lise
You don't have to follow me on Twitter. I think the FriendFeed party palace is mighty fine.
- Josette Torres
from fftogo
(Not that I'll probably see your response, btw - something at the bottom of 350+ responses is effectively buried until FF has better threading tools. Which I'm sure it will, some day.)
- Ian Betteridge
@Ian I believe that it may come in Google Wave.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
@Daniel - ditto, and for me it is generally development related also. Robert - I know you have to try and keep up with everything going on in the social media space, but I'm always surprised when people follow so many others as it must be extremely difficult to find the wheat in amongst all the chaff.
- Donald Matheson
Robert: I did not know about that search trick. Thanks!
- Menno te Koppele
Why?
- Scott Hanselman
looks like a lot of comments
- Rory Partalis
Ian: a "I don't read this much" kind of group is awesome for serrendipity. Also, anyone who I find there who is high value gets quickly moved to a smaller group.
- Robert Scoble
What? Are you saying you're not following me already...? ;-)
- Jarno Peschier
Lise: on Twitter? Less than 2,000. I can't follow more.
- Robert Scoble
Done. :)
- Smeerch
Jamo: I am already following you. Scott: why not? I am already following you too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it might be a problem for me re-gaining your following as my tweets are not 100% English only (whether that means trying to speak English or no English at all ;). How do you deal with occasional non-English tweeters? As that's clearly a noise for you.
- Tibor Holoda
if only twitter were as engaging as FriendFeed has become, and as instantaneous as things like this comment thread, then maybe I would use it more. Hence why I'm all for unfollowing who you conceive as uninteresting; and if that includes me, then so be it!
- Nick Soden
Tibor: I just skip over most of them. Sometimes I translate them to see if I was right.
- Robert Scoble
It is my hope that I provide you with something as interesting as what you provide me with. Either way, I will continue to peruse your posts with interest.
- James (!?)
hmmm
- imran
Hi, I'm still newish to this social media thang - but good on you for taking a stand.
- Jus
Do you prefer night owls? Because what about all the poor people in SV who went to bed at a decent hour and missed your post? Bummer for them, huh?
- RobinDotNet
I'm back from picking my wife up at the airport and ran across this on my way back to sleep.
- nuBound CEO - Mark
shhhhh
- Luigi Filograna
Robin: heh, all the real geeks in SV are still up.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting idea. I firmly believe SEOs are working day and night to figure out FF.
- Ian Ceicys
Ian: I bet they are too since FF is starting to pull better on Google than Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
I am such a sheep. @markmeyerphoto
- Mark Meyer
from iPhone
I have nothing interesting to say, don't follow me.
- burc sahinoglu
from BuddyFeed
what about me? ... sniff
- Andy Ghozali
Me me me ;)
- Alemsah Ozturk
from iPhone
looking for owls?
- Dave Senior
Well I am out for the night. Good luck on your mass un-follow Robert. I look forward to your report on the results.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Robert, this is looking like a long thread already. :)
- Robert Miller
Andy, Alemsah, and Dave, I'm already following you.
- Robert Scoble
Do you consider FF to be less spammy if you are trying to find your new Twitter "friends" here?
- Dušan Šimonovič
Dusan: are you a spammer?
- Robert Scoble
lmao on here you are, not on the big T tho nevermind I will follow you there too, been a fan....
- Andy Ghozali
why?
- Tolga Akmazoglu
bold and yet gutsy move...love the trending topic already!
- Feersum Engine
:)
- Ruchit Garg
Follow on FriendFeed or Twitter? :P Or Google Rader? :P
- Qbat
Türkçe ne diyor arkadaş ?
- Sinan İŞLER
The wild and woolly blogosphere is replete with all sorts of good stuff. Hard to follow 500 people, let alone 1000. I applaud you for trying to take the reins.
- Jack B
hey there
- deadmanwriting
And will you unfollow me if I send a DM ;)?
- Sudar
I don't get it
- Sheldon Levine
Qbat: I'll follow here on FriendFeed. Sheldon what don't you get?
- Robert Scoble
Sudar: no, if you send me DMs here, that's good.
- Robert Scoble
How long is the unfollow process going to take? And do you think FF will have as much noise as Twitter?
- Duc Nguyen
So it's Twitter DM that you don't like?
- Sudar
Sudar: right.
- Robert Scoble
And will you follow me? don't know if you ever have, but I am following you on twitter.
- Jus
Hey, Thanks for following me
- Michael_techie
Would love your company, Robert.
- Daniel Zarick
from iPhone
Even worse is Twitter DM spam, of course.
- Dennis Jernberg
It funny you put spammers, SEO experts, bots, social media experts all in one bucket. What are you implying? Btw, I'm none of these...
- Peter Chee
.. and it works!! Just got a mail saying Robert is following me now... :)
- Sudar
Peter: I did that to piss off the SEO experts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
This makes me realise that posting from Twitter as opposed to "to twitter from FF" allows the Twitter stream to grow on the back of FF comments ! otherwise not : as in my case - what do you think Robert ? FF to Twitter ? Or FF aggregating all your tweets ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
Nicholas: shhhh, you are discovering my secrets! I'm doing more and more from FriendFeed lately.
- Robert Scoble
I comment and you follow me. Its totally worth it
- Arvind
Do I have to follow you too? :)
- Mobilepax
Arvind: even better I was following you before. Mobilepax: no. I really don't care about followers. Inbound is more important than who is listening to you.
- Robert Scoble
and does that mean I have to write in English from now on :)
- Mobilepax
Awesome. I'm the 439th commenter. :D
- Jhay Rocas
Mobilepax: no. I translate interesting posts to English.
- Robert Scoble
More than 400 comments in about 2 hrs. Not bad. I wonder if there'd be nearly as many twitter responses/mentions.
- Franz Binder
Franz: no way. Not even close.
- Robert Scoble
Nice one - it's cool that you give friendfeed (and all the commenters of course ;-) much kudos.
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
If you just follow everyone in this thread, won't you just wind up with noise from 'engaged' people. I mean, does this solve the problem?
- Missionary Broadcasting
Good thing its 4am and my car alarm went off, otherwise you wouldnt follow me! I had to look up a video online how to break the key fob apart becuase aparently its battery leaked and was self activating the panic switch. Damn VWs! a replacement key is only like 150 bucks!!
- Charlieray
Missionary: no. You have not discovered that FriendFeed has groups and MUCH BETTER search.
- Robert Scoble
Its funny that if you say "SEO" on twitter its an instant 10 followers
- Charlieray
A friendfeed promotion experiment?
- John Mandia
from iPhone
What is a comment?
- Meriç Dağlı
I'd rather follow you on Friendfeed, Robert. Your tweets get cross posted here anyway, and there's a much greater sense of engagement in that conversation than there is over at Twitter.
- Andrew Terry
John: no. Meric: you just made one.
- Robert Scoble
John: I've been promoting FriendFeed for 18 months. Where have you been?
- Robert Scoble
FF rocks :o)
- Cowan Group
Everyone that "follows" you really does know you love FF. So did you build a tool to follow everyone back that comments on here or are you seriously going to manually follow people back?
- Peter Chee
Theres 451+ comment here, do you really follow *everyone*?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
woohoo! I'm in :P
- Tim Bergman
Because I am up at 1:20 a.m. PT, why not... I must be your target audience then.
- Georgiana Comsa
It must show you how many people enjoy engaging with you Robert, with the number of people posting here.
- Steve Farnworth
Amazing to see the comment thread to this entry expand constantly in real time.
- Christian Bolstad
Peter: I've manually followed everyone on this thread so far.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: although to be fair I've already followed quite a few people who have commented here.
- Robert Scoble
Hi, you are already following me. My solution to get rid of spammers on Twitter is to block them, that is what I do. If everyone started blocking them, I think things would improve
- Asgeir
Are you going to sleep tonight, or watch the fun?:)
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
is that enough to get followed?
- Ouriel Ohayon
do I accumulate credit, maybe towards an afterlife? You are already following me :-)
- Anindya Chatterjee
really anyone? :D
- Francesco Marconi
What about the SEO experts who accidentally find this feed?
- phil baumann
Robert, but you're following commenters here, not on Twitter, right? Not that i care about Twitter that much, as for me it's just a pipeline. FF and FB are conversational platforms for me, or the places i hang out these days.
- Tibor Holoda
Spammers being blocked doesnt do anything as they are hoping for that 1 in 100 hit of someone clicking that link, eventually they get banned and create a new account.
- Charlieray
Aaman: Sleep? some of us are just starting the day. We're waiting for the US to go to sleep so we can talk about you ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
the term SEO expert is a crock of shit
- Charlieray
like that's gonna work...
- thinkingpot
I hope you like hype machine loved tracks.
- Neil Godfrey
FriendFeed is better only if U want feedback and have the time to check it out.
- Marko Dvornik
Hello from the UK...
- robkeynes
Marko: not true. It's better because it has very little spam. It's better because it has a better search engine. It's better because it has comments and likes. It's better because it's an aggregator. And more.
- Robert Scoble
you don't have to follow back. but i'll take the chance to say great work with building 43.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
where's the 'hide button'??? :-D
- Massimo MaxKava Cavazzini
Massimo: right up top. Heheh. Alexandre: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
After 6 months out of the social media loop I came back to a whole bunch of follows that I either couldn't remember who they were or why I had followed them - how can that be relevent? So, I culled my follows back to less than 200. I'm now just looking to find the signal amongst the noise.
- Colin Walker
What about FriendFeed? Is there any @notsecretscoble too?
- Ludwik C. Siadlak
Friendfeeding for Scoble to follow me while on vacation in Montauk. There is something wrong with me.
- Mitchell Schneider
:)
- امیرعباس
Mitchell -- you just don't want to miss the fun.
- RobinDotNet
robkeynes -- nice to see you up and about
- RobinDotNet
Ludwik: no, because here I can just start a new list of users.
- Robert Scoble
Well, this has been fun to watch, but it's almost 2 a.m. and I have to be very smart tomorrow morning, which is easier when I'm not too tired, so everyone have a great [whatever comes next in your time zone].
- RobinDotNet
Robert, I'm trying to understand this follow/unfollow strategy you are applying as Napoleon Bonaparte on a battle field ;) Interested to know the result
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
pushing this thing to its limits just to see what happens? interesting.
- livefast
I really do think the way Twitter has changed in the last few months, with all the media attention, certainly begs for it to be used differently now.
- Nicola Quinn
SEO what?! :)
- Kobayashi
Wow that's a whole lot of people commenting in the last 2 hours, Rob - How many of the new people you are following from this list are NEW to friendfeed? (estimate?)
- Roy Herrod
i'm new!
- Luigi Filograna
Roy: 40%
- Robert Scoble
Does this constitute a comment or are you looking for some insightful commentary on the state of new media? ;)
- Iwan
40%? This must have turned out to be one of the biggest promotions in FF history, even if it wasn't intended that way. BTW, I'm new to FF too.
- Dennis Jernberg
guess it's good to clean up the list once in a while.
- shadow
Ha ha, nice.... So any major ramifications from the mass unfollow?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Alistair: other than losing about 1,000 followers so far? No major ramifications.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm coming out with a project in the Continuing Medical Education field in the next weeks so if you are interested, I wouldn't mind if you will follow me :-)
- Marco Fabbri
Won't tell anybody, specially Seo people, ssshhhh.....
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
No comment ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Too late.
- Alex Gonzalez
You had me at don't tell the spammers...
- Sean Kelly
I think it's a hoot. Now I'm wondering whether to reverse my recent move towards following more, not less. I do believe that from my experience so far FF is more attuned to building/maintaining community than is Twitter.
- Des Walsh
Great move Robert - I like it a lot
- Robert Davies
Des: on FriendFeed you can do both strategies at the same time. You can follow a lot more in one list while following even fewer in another.
- Robert Scoble
Des - Once more people re-engage in the conversation here, they'll realize the continuing outright potential of Friendfeed. I still some here before I read my e-mail
- Charlie Anzman
wow...just wow :) Robert, you have many fans !!
- Hayk H.
Good luck on hiding from the bots, they have ways of finding people.... :)
- Chris Holm
well, who am I to refuse such a nice offer? here I am!!!
- niccolò vecchia
Good to hear! I have only ~2000 followers, but I can't follow more at the moment due to Twitter's follow limit rule.
- Martin Lindeskog
I can't resist. skeptical, however.
- thinkQuick
Robert maybe the effort to get to 1 million is too great?? LOL Look forward to being in special company
- Wayne Mansfield
lol! ;-)
- auro
Following for the sake of it
- Rudi
follow, unfollow. it's all work...
- punkwithgun
Great way to test the chemistry between FF and Twitter. I like it.
- E-Advocate Network
Robert - I'am definitely not a spammer when it comes to broadcasting anything to people, who doesn't want to hear it :) but I do sometimes respond (mostly on twitter so @reply) to some tweets not aimed on me, but that's what everybody actually asks for when publicly broadcasting anything.
- Dušan Šimonovič
Lovely.
- Kevin Montgomery
Scoble is a superstar :)
- Peter
Woohoo. :)
- mjc
Enjoy your tweets
- Keith Humphreys
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto. Himitsu o shiri tai. (Secret secret. I've got a secret.)
- Rich Puskarich
Welcome!
- Bob Stewart
Shhh...don't tell anyone but I'm neither of those (the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts,) though, I like the heck out of the concept of this thread...
- Vincent Wright
@euaneggs :)
- Euan Rowlands
Good idea about the unfollow. It was an interesting experiment whilst it lasted but given your lifestyle I'm sure most Twitter messages just passed you by. I never DM'd you however, it was nice to think that I had the option if I wanted to. Anyway I've been on FF for ages now, and what I need is a good FF app (for pc), any ideas anyone?
- Nick Bristow
Nick: I just use a browser with FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Only 530 comments so far? Come on people you are not even trying.
- John Cooper
oh,i'm 538?
- M∂hmood
hello hello!
- May Wong
I am really curious to check the result of this experiment...
- Alessandro Galetto
from twhirl
why are you doing this again ?
- startup ticker
To confuse you.
- Robert Scoble
LOL - nice one Robert.
- Darren Rowse
Lol! that dude definitely sounds confused :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
:-) well done
- Johni Fisher
Knock three times on the ceiling if you want me.
- Gilbert Harding
Nice! Subscribe me!!! ;)
- stakhov
cool~
- kang
promise?
- David Semeria
well i'm only bemused, is that close enuff ?
- startup ticker
so quick~
- kang
I'm interested to see how this turns out for you.
- Brandon Eaker
talk about noise!
- Miles Media
550 commants!!!! wtf?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Good to know. Scoble is a superstar.
- jaspio
@Rob Sellen, did you see the comments on the most recent ffundercats podcast entry. http://friendfeed.com/ffunder... Over 1000 in a very short period of time. Although I expect that this post will also get up to those levels.
- Travis Koger
Ah Scoble allways busy.
- erwin blom
NOTICE: I am closing comments here because I gotta get some sleep. I'll consider doing this again sometime. Sorry if you didn't get in, but see you tomorrow night.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I just saw something stealth coming out at TechCrunch's real time Crunchup on Friday that's going to bring blogging back. Big time.
Leslie Poston, AJ Kohn, Brome and 87 other people liked this
http://www.techcrunch.com/real-ti... is the CrunchUp. Stick around for the after lunch session. Very cool.
- Robert Scoble
i thought rubel said blogging was dead? :)
- Allen Stern
Do Tell!
- Bill Heslin
Allen: Steve Rubel will bring his blog back after Friday.
- Robert Scoble
wow nice
- Allen Stern
Bill: I can't tell, agreed to an embargo, but you're already getting a preview. Just think about your blog now (or mine). :-)
- Robert Scoble
Oh shoot..this is Real time web..can't wait till Friday
- Bill Heslin
Blogging was dead?
- Ara Pehlivanian
Real Time is where it's at.
- Robert Scoble
too bad sites like mine can't be ready to post about it :(
- Allen Stern
Ara: have I blogged this week? If I had what is coming on Friday I would blog a lot more.
- Robert Scoble
Uhmmm tablet tablet...
- Francisco Espinoza
FriendFeed Pro?
- Chris Saad
<pops thread out>
- CAJ, somewhere else
Allen: embargoes suck. I know. But you should be one of the first sites to use this.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed Pro....oh no please :S
- Francisco Espinoza
i dont even have an embargo robert - oh well, no worries
- Allen Stern
Shhh...nobody tell Steve Rubel.
- Judd6149
Oooooh! like that Chris...FF Pro
- Bill Heslin
Chris: no. Not FriendFeed Pro. Although if FriendFeed were smart they'd buy the company after Friday.
- Robert Scoble
Data Portability Exporter 1.0 ? :-P
- Allen Stern
blogging never died. Some things make it easier and better. http://posterous.com
- Dj Skunk Diesel
Oh your bad Robert...lol....
- Bill Heslin
Allen: there is a lot of data portability in what I saw, yes.
- Robert Scoble
i think Data Portability is the future :D </obvious statement>
- Chris Saad
Dj: it is going to be interesting to see how this changes people's approach to blogging and Tumblr/Posterous.
- Robert Scoble
Dj: it is going to be very interesting to talk with Steve Rubel on Friday afternoon after the demo.
- Robert Scoble
it's the first ever virtual blogging tool - you just imagine your posts and they appear!
- Allen Stern
Allen: I imagine that you appear and you do, how do you do that? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Another service of "tumblog"?
- Francisco Espinoza
He's funny like dat...lol...
- Bill Heslin
oh i just bought guy's package - i have hired a team of allen's - for example, i am the evening shift allen (allen2.1 internally) - the night allen arrives at 11pm (allen 4.2 internally)
- Allen Stern
Am I that far behind? Why is blogging dead, and by real time you are talking about more than live stream video?
- ASKJDOG
Hmmm. Sounds like FF benefits from this.
- Nick in Manila
Nick: FriendFeed might benefit, yes. JDOG: we are talking about real time text. Just like here.
- Robert Scoble
Allen: you are cracking me up. So fun! =)
- Miiko Mentz
from iPhone
miiko - sometimes we all need to smile, that's my job as Allen2.1
- Allen Stern
Allen: personally I like the morning shift better. Since I'm in London I'll go to sleep now and wait for him to show up.
- Robert Scoble
Got it: real time text stream = "blog." Blogging is dead; long live blogging!!
- Tom Guarriello
remember when techCrunch said they were gonna break embargoes... you should, too
- Marco
aah still in london! get off ff and have some fun
- Allen Stern
Allen: I was off FriendFeed all day!
- Robert Scoble
How can you bring something back that isn't gone. Have you seen the WordPress growth numbers? They have been very consistent and very impressive for many, many months.
- Missionary Broadcasting
Missionary: well, I have definitely left a lot of my blogging due to real time interactions like these, but I don't have page views to worry about.
- Robert Scoble
Now ur both making me laugh. Good times!
- Miiko Mentz
from iPhone
Can we mere mortals watch it online
- Mark
Mark: I don't know about video, but I'm sure that the second this gets announced it will be discussed on FriendFeed to death.
- Robert Scoble
miiko - be nice or i get out the voodoo doll!
- Allen Stern
Thanks Robert. I'm starting to "get it" just thinking how to implement this in my niche
- ASKJDOG
I just add a lot of this other stuff to the blogging I'm already doing. Most savvy bloggers are doing the same thing. They sort of all fit together in my world.
- Missionary Broadcasting
it's after 3am in London
- Ian May
somehow this feels like a test of the "tc50 and demo broadcast system" - im sure we will see more of these "oh hot damn i just saw x but i cant talk about it until y" posts come sept.
- Allen Stern
Allen, why do companies talk to people about products and then tell them they must tell no one about it? I mean, since no one can talk about it, no extra excitement is generated? I don't really get it
- Mark
Allen, gotta luv the voodoo doll. ;)
- Miiko Mentz
from iPhone
@Allen, to give the individual an opportunity to form an opinion and write a well thought out article when the service launches.
- Darren
Mark, tomorrow's event will be streamed live. Hopefully it all goes smoothly.
- Miiko Mentz
from iPhone
Mark - embargoes give writers a chance to test and play before the tool goes live - so the posts should be better than just press release copy - i rarely ever mention a product before it goes live - scoble likes to build excitement about what he sees. i just wish that more companies learned that excluisves are bad for startups
- Allen Stern
Thanks Allen
- Mark
Mark: PR people tell me they use embargoes so that they can brief a large number of people without pissing anyone off. If I wrote about this stealth company tonight, for instance, lots of other journalists would get pissed off at the company. Some, like TechCrunch, even refuse to write about companies if they aren't given equal access. It also, like Allen says, gives writers a chance to produce videos and test out products so they can write more authoritatively about them.
- Robert Scoble
So its largely to stop competing blogs, sites etc from complaining that Site X got earlier access than Site Y for example?
- Mark
Robert/Allen, well said. Mark, in theory, yes. But it doesn't always work out that way.
- Miiko Mentz
from iPhone
So what was all the fuss Arrington was making last year about embargoes? Didn't he say he would violate every single one?
- Mark
I can't wait to hear about it!
- Joshua M
Mark: Arrington just said he reserves the right to break embargoes when he wants. Usually if the company deals with him straight up he'll agree to the embargo. What I hate are companies that give some people special deals. Apple does this all the time, which is why I never go to Apple press conferences anymore.
- Robert Scoble
a good example of poor choices are YC startups - they go to tc/sent to tc/etc and miss so many more opportunities for coverage - works well for TC tho - they always get a HN frontpage.
- Allen Stern
Hint?
- Scott Williams
from BuddyFeed
scott - he said "after lunch" so check which startups are presenting after lunch lol
- Allen Stern
Notes like this really make me long to be in the Bay area. One day Sheryl and I will move there. It's our plan.
- Ken Camp
Thank you Backtype for bringing this to me. I can't wait to hear about whatever this is.
- Steve Rubel
Robert how will we know when this thing your talking about is public? How will you update us?
- Chris Saad
@Chris - you won't miss it. He will be on a unicorn that everyone is talking about. JK - looking forward to this
- Steve Rubel
@Steve haha true
- Chris Saad
Can't wait to hear more. I hope it's a tool to make it easy to aggregate content into blog posts -- that's what I've been wishing for lately. Sometimes I have up to ten browser tabs open to pull in all the urls, images, videos and quotes I want to include in a new blog post.
- Andy Kaplan-Myrth
cool ... buzz .... buzzz!!! :)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
It will be interesting to see what it is. Maybe my guest bloggers will cover the story. I am on a worklife summer break! Blogger since '02.
- Martin Lindeskog
Robert Blogging has never gone away! Not in my book.
- Sandra Large
Scoble, are you referring to LazyFeed ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
We here at Posterous are looking forward to the announcement. Innovation is always great -- can't wait to see what's going down on Friday.
- Garry Tan
Sounds a lot like LazyFeed: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- twitscoop
Just what we need!
- ZuDfunck
Lazyfeed sounds like a combo of feedly and backtype, with categories
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Blogging straight from my brain coming tomorrow! Hook me up!
- Mike Buechele
@Michael For the love of gods, don't invoke Zobzee!
- Sam Harrelson
All this is making me wish Friday comes sooner. For me it will be another 24 hours away as I presume @Scoble is referring to US PST.
- Vinko
Robert! U R such a TEASE! *giggle*
- Arleen Anderson
hmmm I wonder what this is....
- Marko Saric
I guess it's this: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... ... The WordPress Jabber client
- Marko Saric
No, the blog is not dead by any means http://lifestreamblog.com/should-... but Lifestreaming is almost a necessary component needed for supplementing them with the advent of real-time http://lifestreamblog.com/you-say...
- Mark Krynsky
so TC has come out with 300 invites to LazyFeed (which are sadly gone), any going here? :P
- Marlin Forbes
It's Friday. Who's the stealth company that's gonna "bring blogging back" and how are they gonna do so?
- Brad Williamson
According to the presenter, Echo is the service: http://js-kit.com/echo/
- Brandon Titus
Thanks Brandon ;-)
- Brad Williamson
I really don't like being forced to spam my tweetstream just to sign in for an Echo invite. I won't do it. Bad bad practice, guys. But fascinating service concept.
- Nick in Manila
I understand scoble's statement now. I was all ready to shift 97% of my publishing off my blog and onto platforms like FriendFeed till I just saw how Echo and the new Disqus features are enhancing the conversation on the blog. It's dragging me back.
- Nick in Manila
Glad to hear you will be blogging more Nick - FriendFeed and other services are fantastic for virality and discussions with your friends - We feel that Echo makes those services even MORE relevant while putting your blog back in the picture.
- Chris Saad
Chris - interesting. This certainly isn't an either/or thing. Well, not any longer. Heh.
- Nick in Manila
It rarely is :) Communication systems rarely go away - they only find their place
- Chris Saad
loling at "blogging is dead" comments
- Jeremiah Owyang
Just to confirm: you were referring to the pubsubhubbub demo at the real-time crunchup?
- DGentry
Attached is a Microsoft Excel document with all the highlighted "Ten to Follow" FriendFeed accounts since July of 2008, started by Mike Fruchter. Enjoy. (More than 100)
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Mike Fruchter is at http://www.friendfeed.com/fruchte..., and has never been highlighted, but is an outstanding FriendFeeder.
- Louis Gray
Sweet
- Josh Haley
Awesome. Thank you so much for putting them into 1 list. That's a huge help.
- Keith - @tsudo
I second that motion concerning Mike Fruchter, Louis Gray :)
- J. D. Ebberly
J.D., considering Mike highlighted me in the first one, and then I took over, I never highlighted him back. That would make sense, wouldn't it? And Keith, yes, it helps me too. Turns out on 3 separate occasions, I have highlighted people Mike did already. Now, this won't happen again.
- Louis Gray
like email :)
- sean percival
Louis: If I may suggest - use Google docs. I copied your spreadsheet and put it here as an example: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub...
- Ric Johnson
Ric, that works too. I just wanted to post an attachment via FriendFeed.
- Louis Gray
URL's should be clickable, but that's cool :)
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Mike - the biggest reason I created the spreadsheet above was to be able to click and follow everyone Luis suggested. Try it!
- Ric Johnson
Louis can I republish this for all the Ecademy members?
- Thomas Power
Thomas, of course you may. This is community property. The Google Docs version is clickable. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub...
- Louis Gray
Cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
+1 for clickable urls ... Display works great on the iPhone, but adding new people is a bit more tricky.
- Jonathan Greene
from iPhone
I edited the doc to indicate that Rick Bucich and Michael Fidler are no longer active in FF at those addresses. I also made the Google Doc public so anyone can edit, but that could lead to abuse. Luis - do you want to assume ownership of the Google doc i created?
- Ric Johnson
Louis - of all the things you do, this is the most important, your 10 to follow on FF has a huge impact, thanks for the spreadsheet.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
awesome way to use the new attachment feature!
- andy brudtkuhl
Great, how about a button that I can press to follow all of these? :)
- Bill Romanos
Bill - see if Ben Golub or Casey Muller can get you that magic button. :)
- Louis Gray
That's it, I'm going to make a badge for my websites "I was recommended by Louis Gray" :)
- Bwana ☠
@bwana - send over a copy - i'll put it on my web site as well. :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
great idea @bwana! I'd use one of those. er, if I was actually blogging lately ...
- Laura Norvig
ditto @bwana. Thanks Louis for re-mixing the old lists. Was wondering about that recent spike in new FFfriends. :) Once again humbled to be included with such an awesome group of FFolks. Now where's my "I was recommended by LG" button/shirt/sticker? :P
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Cool, just opened an Excel file directly from FriendFeed!
- Mike Reynolds
very kool!!! thanks for sharing the excel document
- (jeff)isageek
This is great.
- Tracy Benham
5 Mark's in there. More than any other name. Whoo whoo!
- Mark Krynsky
@Bwana - I want that badge on my blog too!! cool idea :)
- Susan Beebe
its so cool to see an excel spreadsheet being shared like this thru friendfeed!
- Jason Pollock
is there virus detection on the attachment upload; not a comment towards Louis as we know him here but I see this coming...
- Lou Paglia
Louis, What should i do to get featured in your List
- Michael_techie
Louis, I love being on the list, but If you could change my URL to http://friendfeed.com/mikerob..., I would appreciate it. I dropped the 1 at the end of my username six months ago. Thanks:) It's wrong on the website as well.
- Michael Fidler
Michael, I don't think I can change the Excel that is already posted, but I can change it on the Web.
- Louis Gray
Thanks Louis!
- Michael Fidler
I am there! That's awesome. Thanks guys.
- Erhan Erdogan
Pre-Written and Scheduled Posts vs Timely Posts - http://www.problogger.net/archive...
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Något som många glömmer är just möjligheten att skriva ett antal bloggposter på en gång och sedan portionera ut dem under veckan. Självklart handlar det ofta om bloggar som inte bygger på nyheter och aktuella diskussioner - men fr a för företag känns det som ett bra tips och jag brukar föreslå det för mina kunder.
- Niclas Strandh
ProBlogger boken innehåller många bra tips.
- Martin Lindeskog
Jag sommarpratar - Sveriges Radio - http://www.sr.se/cgi-bin...
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Det här är smart. Spela in ditt eget program - enkelt.
- Niclas Strandh
Lyssnade du på Ingvar Kamprad?
- Martin Lindeskog
How do you get credibility with me? Point me to the best sushi restaurant I have ever been to. Rob Shore. You are the man!
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OK, so go have an Italian breakfast tomorrow :D
- jcunwired
Are you a traditional or sushi nouveau lover? In the latter case, you gotta try O Ya and Uni next time you are in Boston.
- Simeon Simeonov
I kinda dug Hana Zen. :/
- Sean Oliver
1) Teppay, Houston TX.http://www.igougo.com/dining-...
- Neil Simon
2) Matsuhisa, Beverly Hills, CA. http://matsuhisa.com
- Neil Simon
Great! My wife loves sushi and she's in NY this week; I'll let her know about Yasuda.
- Andrés David Aparicio
Robert: if you ever find yourself in Rochester, NY, well--we can't compete to SF sushi, but I promise you the best sushi in Rochester--my treat. House of Sushi- 101 East street.
- Larry Roth
One of the tiny, tiny, tiny restaurant/cafe's in Tsukiji Fish Market in Tokyo. Hands down the best you will ever eat. A father owns one, and his son runs the one next door. A matter of taste as to which one is the best.
- Jordan Brock
So you have been to all of the best sushi restaurants in the country? and you want us to match our list with your list? why don't you share which ones you feel are the best?
- Bobby Kircher
I'm not sure there is anything but "the best you will ever eat" in Tokyo. Every place I ever went to was incredible, and the smallest of them were usually the very best.
- jcunwired
@Bobby: Robert is talking about a previous post where he asked for restaurant options in NY and Rob Shore suggested a great one.
- Andrés David Aparicio
Been to Nishino in Seattle?
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
Yasuda is awesome. saw Martha Stewart there the night before she went into lockdown. Also right across the street, down in the basement of the building is a place called Sakagura. Not so much sushi, but great little Japanese plates, and a really large sake selection... In SF, try Ryoko's. Sit at the bar and order from the special board. I haven't found much better in the city.
- John Stanford
Jeff: yes, doesn't compare.
- Robert Scoble
@Larry I would assert that Edoya on Buffalo Road in Rochester is better than Golden Port/House of Sushi... Also, if you are in SF, Hama-ko (108 Carl St) is fantastic.
- matthew john ernisse
Well I am in Tokyo this week, so I am rocking good Sushi left and right :).
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
Amura in Orlando FL, Vizen in Sarasota FL -- my two favorite sushi joints.
- Jonathan Brown
In New York: Yasuda, Sasabune, Masa (if you want to drop big paper). Those are the very best on the East Coast, each with their own quirks.
- Aaron deMello
No. Next time you are in San Diego (the ONLY place to be, btw... don't know why the hell I'm in Jersey), go to Sushi Ota in Pacific Beach --> http://www.yelp.com/biz...
- Pete
*jealous of Jeff*
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
fuku sushi, newmarket, auckland is pretty good, but it is really just a cafe, not a "restaurant", for a sushi bar, try tanuki's cave, downtown auckland
- Paul Tudor
paul - fukme Sushi ? ;)
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
wow. Google indexed this pretty quick. I typed "rob shore sushi" and this was the top link
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
The one mentioned above in LA is good but only by local standards. Tokyo's fish market is a famous tourist attraction, but the highest quality fish never goes there. Kyubei, most regards as best in tokyo tries too hard too scale - they use too much formulas and source that defeat the real purpose of sushi: Freshness and raw skill. Kenjo in Hong Kong is by far the winner with a huge margin. (disclosure: master kenjo didn't charge me for one of the meals last time I left HK.)
- Tim Lai
robert, posts from a fishmarket in Japan? you need to expand your venue ;)
- bob phillips
yeah Jeff, don't you just love that name???, the owner does not speak english that well, so the irony is lost on him
- Paul Tudor
Jeff, you thinking of holding up a sushi restaurant on the beach? :)
- jcunwired
if your that much of an aficionado, the mecca for sushi lovers is the Tsukiji market. After that, you can head over to Kobe for some Matsusakaya steak (after a brief stopover at Akihabara to oogle the latest Japanese tech toys)
- Serge
Blue Ribbon has excellent Sushi in NY
- Bill Zaccardi
@TimLai where in HK is kenjo? thats quite a statement, now you've got me curious and I would like to try next time i'm over there ;)
- Serge
drunken shrimp in a chinese restaurant in tokyo. pyrex bowl of sake. shrimp dance. chops head . get the gaijin presentation.
- bob phillips
For sushi, visit us in Tokyo. Go to Sukiyabashi Jiro in Ginza or Roppongi. There is no better.
- Eric Hamilton
I've been to the fish market. Maybe it was too early for my brain, but it was good, but not amazing
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
The best sushi restaurant is here in Hawaii; it's Sansei Restaurant, there is 1 here on the Big Island and 1 on Oahu.
- Sandra
Try Wasabi's, State St., Charleson, SC
- LeighaB
Robert:if you dont like this one I pay you the trip :-)) http://www.bellagio.com/restaur...
- Johni Fisher
I'm partial to Shiro's in Seattle (http://www.shiros.com/). おまかせ
- Hiro Asari
Robert, Enjoy your time in the Big Apple! If you come to Gothenburg, Sweden, visit Sushibiten. My favorite in USA: Arang in Troy, Ohio.
- Martin Lindeskog
@Serge 30 Miden Ave (cross road Mody Road), Ground Floor, Tsim Sha Tsui, HK tel:2369-8307
- Tim Lai
www.sushiofgari.com in NY. Am surprised no one has mentioned it. Above the rest.
- William Mougayar
Been away and just saw this - so glad you enjoyed it!
- Rob Shore
Take the survey: will the new FriendFeed interface make it more popular than Twitter? http://socialtoo.com/survey...
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Yes, I think so. Take the survey: will the new FriendFeed interface make it more popular than Twitter? http://bit.ly/KObly
- Martin Lindeskog
I "ANNUAL BLOG REPORT VII | EGO" ( http://egoist.blogspot.com/2009... )
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Thanks Joel! :)
- Martin Lindeskog
Flip Video Ultra HD makes its unofficial debut, gets unboxed - http://www.engadgethd.com/2009...
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Notable niceties include an HDMI output, 120 minutes of record time (up from 60 minutes), a removable / rechargeable battery and support for AA cells in a pinch. We're still waiting for the full rundown of specifications (and the price, too), but feel free to tap the read link for a stellar unboxing in the meanwhile. Update: Looks like it's going for $199.99. Thanks Matthies!
- Michael Fidler
from Bookmarklet
Crap! I just bought a Flip Mino HD not two months ago for $209.
- Joey Gibson
How is it?
- Michael Fidler
Gotta tell you guys. I've been playing with a Creative Vado HD which some have reviewed as having better video quality than the Flip. I've then compared that to the HD movie mode that my Panasonic TZ5 is capable of and it's much better. Especially in low light. Furthermore the Panny is also an excellent camera, has image stabilization, and a 10x optical zoom even in video mode. Oh, and...
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- Mark Krynsky
Gah, I just bought a Flip HD for $200 a few weeks ago.
- Stephen Mack
Mark, I just asked someone the same thing. I've heard mixed things about the Vado, but for the most part it was well received. The Panasonic is another story. I'm very interested to learn more about it. Thanks
- Michael Fidler
Michael...my guess is that the video mode of the Panny is better than the Flip HD based on what I've seen. I'd be more than happy to do a shootout with someone who has a Flip.
- Mark Krynsky
Want .. now.
- Charlie Anzman
Mark, What about the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28K 10MP Digital Camera. It's only a couple bucks more, but has a higher resolution for photography, and a couple of other features, Do you currently have one?
- Michael Fidler
I just bought a Canon HF10 which I got cheap since it's been replaced by the '09 models. I like these well enough, but I like a camera that looks like a camera (and it's 1080P).
- Derrick
Yes, I also have the FZ-28 and am very happy with it as well. It has the same HD movie mode. I bought the TZ5 for my wife. If you get one just be careful to buy the right SD card fast enough to handle the video mode. I recommend the Kingston Class 6 card. I bought an Adata class 6 only to find out these cards aren't created equally despite the ratings and it errored on recording.
- Mark Krynsky
So many gadgets! Maybe I'll buy my fiancee one :)
- jcunwired
Thanks Mark, I've been putting off buying one for a month now. But, I'm ready to buy one tomorrow. I still want a high end camera, but this should do the job until I 'm ready. Thanks for the memory tip, too:-)
- Michael Fidler
Here's a CNET review of all the pocket video cams out http://bit.ly/2BzwJ
- Michael Fidler
FZ-28 is the best choice in the price range - 250-300, but if you can wait until June, and have a few hundred bucks more, the Panasonic GH1 will be THE ticket to ride. After seeing the GH1 sample videos coming out of Japan this weekend (just released there), I wish I had saved up and waited. There's big debates on forums comparing the pros and cons to the Canon 5d Mark II. The very fact that it is even debated is HUGE!!
- Adrian
Adrian...I totally agree on the FZ28. I had considered possibly upgrading to the Canon SX1 IS after hearing it was finally going to be released in the US but then have heard that the video mode has some defective issue. The Panny GH1 sounds very interesting to me but that means I move into the DSLR world which I'm not sure I"m ready for. I'll have to look into it more once it is realeased. What forums do you frequent for info?
- Mark Krynsky
FYI...I love Dpreviews.com and here's the preview of the GH1 http://www.dpreview.com/news... brief hands-on here http://www.dpreview.com/news...
- Mark Krynsky
What surprised me last friday was when I was shopping at Costco, I saw the Flip there...for $199! I was really tempted to buy one.
- imabonehead
Mark, Dpreview is generally the spot for info, here is a link for a debate on GH1 vs 5DmkII http://www.dvinfo.net/conf...
- Adrian
Kyle: I believe that to be true. I use mine on a monopod which makes it a lot better.
- Robert Scoble
The fz28 has anti shake and decent continuous auto focus as well as an awesome Leica lens for a few bucks more. Won't fit in your pocket though.
- Adrian
The TZ5 has anti-shake and will almost fit in a pocket and should have about the same quality as the FZ28.
- Mark Krynsky
Interesting....
- Do Young Min
@mark, good point, the tz5 would then make an ideal pocketable cam/corder
- Adrian
I recorded video while holding both the the TZ5 and Creative Vado simultaneously so I could compare quality. I'll see what I can do about posting video for you guys to see the difference.
- Mark Krynsky
That would be great!
- Michael Fidler
I've always thought these were ripoffs since you can get a digicam that has optical image stabilization, optical zoom, and could actually take photos too :). But most current gen digicams record to MJPEG which creates HUGE files. If you want to upload to youtube, you'd have to re-encode or else the upload would take forever. Also, most digicams use a CCD sensor and recording lights/sun causes purple lines. The Flips use a CMOS sensor which doesn't have that effect but then it gains the wobbly rolling..
- Rodfather
.. shutter effect too. So there's give and take for either.
- Rodfather
I agree. If I could add one feature, it would be image stabilization. It hard to take a nice shot without a tripod. I borrowed a friends regular flip, and the upload to YouTube was a breeze. There's a lot to be said for that kind of convince.
- Michael Fidler
Here's a low light video with my FZ28. Download the original near bottom right for full effect... http://vimeo.com/4068287
- Adrian
I don't think it's a fair to compare a Flip vs a SuperZoom camera. The Flips are made for dead simple operation and pocketability. You don't have to take out an SD card to transfer files since it has a USB jack. The FZ28 should have better quality since it has a huge lens. But like it said before, once you shoot at light, the video is ruined. Plus it records to mjpeg and re-encoding to upload to Youtube kind of defeats the purpose.
- Rodfather
It's all about trade offs one way or another. However the tz5 has similar imaging capabilities to fz28 and it's pocketable. The fz28 does have a usb jack and it isn't that hard to deal with to upload, but you are right about the file formats.
- Adrian
IMO, if you want something like the Flip, just get an iPhone, jailbreak it, and use Qik. Streaming straight to a site is as convenient as you can get. If you want quality, get a real camcorder like a Canon HF S100.
- Rodfather
I can't have my cake and eat it too? I tend to gravitate towards quality on all levels.
- Michael Fidler
Well, if you're set on a digicam, wait for a newer pocketable Panny that record to h.264. There's still the sensor issue, but at least the files are smaller. The Panasonic ZS3 is the successor to the TZ line. They are the same size as the TZ5 but record 720p using the h.264 codec.
- Rodfather
What so you think of Mark's idea of going with something like the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28K ? I just realizes how active this thread has become. I better read it.
- Michael Fidler
I've put off a video cam purchase for too long . I can spend up to $500.00. Quality is the most important thing. Convince would be nice, but really is isn't important to me.
- Michael Fidler
I'd get a real camcorder then. I've read some good things about the Sanyo FH1. The Canon HF100 were going for $500 in November but has gone up since then.
- Rodfather
I was just looking on CNET and prices are all over the place. So are the reviews. Here's their top 5 http://reviews.cnet.com/best-ca... I think it might be possible to get one under $500. I just found it interesting that they include the Flip HD in the list.
- Michael Fidler
There's also the Panasonic HDC-SD20 which is their lower-end HD camcorder. http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...
- Rodfather
The Sanyo FH1 is going for $449 at the moment. (http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-V...). I've read it only has digital image stabilization. Shooting in low-light is supposedly really good. It's also one of the only camcorders that can record 1080p at 60fps. Here's sample footage: http://vimeo.com/4020813
- Rodfather
I have to check all these out. The low-end market is red hot. I was just looking at a new Sony, which does 1080P for $200 bucks. The review was average, but it's clear that competition will force one of these companies to come out with a great sub $200 camera. I don't think it's a good time to buy one right now. I think I’m going to spend more, and buy a camera that will last me a while.
- Michael Fidler
I have one other option. I have friends that works at Sony Studios. Usually I can get 40% off anything they make. Is there a descent Sony that's worth looking at? It’s not a sure thing, but I’ve done so many times in the past, I don’t think it will be a problem again, unless they changed the rules. BTW; thanks for helping out!
- Michael Fidler
No problem :). Hm. Sony consumer camcorders are usually fairly expensive. Try getting a price for the SR11 & CX12. The Sony TG1 is compact. The successor is the TG5. The easy pick last year was the Canon HF100, but like I said before, the price has gone up.
- Rodfather
I know its another story but what about canon mark II ? @mark?
- Alemsah Ozturk
I'll take it if I could get one for $1,000 tomorrow! I saw a HV-30 for $599 that looks nice. BTW, the video of the turtle looks great. This is a different segment of the market entirely. Whenever I start looking at these, It makes me want to spend more and not make any compromises. It’s a tough call. My original intentions were to buy one low-end camera, and one high-end model. Now I need to do some research.
- Michael Fidler
Do you know why the price went up on the Cannon's, and is it expected to stay that way?
- Michael Fidler
There's an HF-100 for $599. I could do that. Is that the best choice?
- Michael Fidler
I suspect they went down in price for the holiday season and went back up again. The Canon is a very good bet. Ask Derrick how his HF10 is. The HF100 is exactly the same but the HF10 has internal 16GB memory while the HF100 has no internal memory. You'll just have to grab a SDHC card.
- Rodfather
I think it's the one. Thanks for the advice. How much are the memory cards? What size do you recommend? The review I just watched was excellent. They love the camera. If I can find the HF10 at the same price, would it be better to have internal memory? I would rather buy a couple memory cards and just swap them out.
- Michael Fidler
Ya definitely grab a HF10 if it's the same price. You get 16GB internal memory plus the SDHC slot. A quick search at newegg, a 16GB card is going for $33. http://www.newegg.com/Product...
- Rodfather
Thant's not bad at all. I think this is definitely the way to go. Thank You!!! Now watch, I'll end up with the Flip. Kidding! However, I might get one, some day. lol
- Michael Fidler
Haha cool. Don't just take my word for it. I'm sure more people will chime in. :)
- Rodfather
I still appreciate you taking the time. I love how it's possible to have an entire conversation here, as if nothing else were going on. I love ff!
- Michael Fidler
So I just read the review on the new Canon SX200 IS. Here you have a 12x optical zoom with image stabilization camera that records 720p movies in H.264 unfortunately the optical zoom doesn't work in movie mode. You can read a review and see sample movies here: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews...
- Mark Krynsky
@Mark Krynsky Thanks! What a coincidence, . I was reading and watching reviews, also. This is just me dreaming, but check this out, http://bit.ly/2mc5YN It's footage from the Panasonic's Lumix GH1. If money were no object...I'm going to check out the Canon right now.
- Michael Fidler
Watch the HD version. I think the link defaults back to the SD one.
- Michael Fidler
@krynsky Nice review. I like how the image stabilizer is available during recording. If the Flip had this feature, I wouldn't think twice about buying one. More food for thought! Thanks again!
- Michael Fidler
@krynsky I got it! I was at Costco yesterday, and they had all three of the camera’s. I based my final decision on how much money I had with me at the time. The Canon HF-10 was selling for $560.00 and the sx200 was $345.00. The Flip HD with tripod was $300.00. At the time, I had $500.00 with me. I ended up buying the sx200. I only had a chance to play around with it a little today. I’m going to finish loading the software and see how the pictures look. I’ll update soon!
- Michael Fidler
Great Michael. Keep us posted on how you like it and what you think of the video mode. It sounds like optical zoom while recording wasn't an issue for you, but unfortunately that's a prob for me. Purchasing at Costco is a good choice as well since they offer a very liberal return policy if you aren't happy.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark, My thoughts exactly. Costco has a great rental...I mean return policy:-) I have 90 days to get a better idea of what I really want out of a camera.
- Michael Fidler
My 5 Favorite Twitter Apps - http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog...
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Arrington on today's Gillmor Gang said no one is using friendfeed. I answered back "then explain why my feed is moving so fast." :-)
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He'd have to ACTUALLY USE it to know that.
- Alex Scoble
Arrington is an ass.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I'm not sure if Scoble's feed is the measure of the average FF user's feed speed....
- Jef
dude, you have like a million followers
- Don Bonaddio
Arrington would have to actually use it first
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Then why write about the new beta and break the embargo?
- Kevin Whalen
What? I'm noone :)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Scoble I don't think you should be the measuring stick.
- WiseYoda (aka Patrick)
I think FriendFeed is beginning to become the place to go for the real-time web and I'm sure it's the point of the redesign. They have mastered (or are in the process of mastering) how this feed stuff works. Realtime event monitoring is on FriendFeed and no where else at the moment.
- Brandon Titus
probably not the answer you're looking for...but it's because of all the content that is aggregated here (it posts whether or not people are using it) - just playing devils advocate :)
- Jennifer Van Grove
http://spy.techcrunch.com maybe the reason why he said that?
- Gavin
Is it bad that I agree with my brother? Friendfeed is pretty active today. Actually, I haven't noticed a slowdown in activity of late at all other than the usual weekend lull.
- Alex Scoble
Robert: You held your own. Defended us all valiantly ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
What are you all doing here? You are supposed to be on Twitter!
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, relatively speaking nobody is using Friendfeed, and it's not taking off. I think Silicon Alley Insider called it fairly. http://www.businessinsider.com/friendf...
- Robert Seidman
it is because Twitter is down. :D
- Rom Feria
Yep, Robert Seidman is right. But don't count Friendfeed out yet. Especially with the troubles Twitter has with each plateau of growth.
- Dion Hinchcliffe
I think he was speaking relative to other services. I do think this will be a huge boost to Friendfeed.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Gavin - I tried "arringtonsucks" in that field.
- Larry Hudson
Let's show Arrington what nobody looks like http://beta.friendfeed.com/itblogg...
- Alex Scoble
it's moving so fast because you follow _everyone_ and everyone has 1 or more feeds that goes into FriendFeed.
- rob friedman
rob, my feed is updated quickly too and I'm not a top user. Robert is right on this one and Arrington is just speaking about something he doesn't use.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Rob: bullshit. I am standing in front of my hotel and this post has gotten 22 comments and tons of likes. There are a LOT of people using friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
In just a couple of minutes...
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I know there is a lot, im just stating the obvious. there is a lot of people, and FriendFeed decided to real-time it up a bit.
- rob friedman
I'm seeing a *ton* more activity today on my FF posts than usual. I also find it's much easier to use FriendFeed instead of TweetDeck to do my Twitter posts now - the character count is nice.
- Jesse Stay
LOL, Robert I'm not sure Rob is right, but at this point your picture and your friendfeed picture and comment are well aligned. they are both distortions of reality.
- Robert Seidman
Once FriendFeed hits critical mass then the onslaught will begin, and I will be thankful of the Filtering once I figure it out. :)
- rob friedman
We should comment more on Mike's stuff. He'll rush sooner or later.
- Jérôme Flipo
I assume he was meaning "no one" in comparison to the amount of activity he thinks twitter and facebook has. It's like how people say that no one plays EQ2 anymore even though its still like 500k. That's supposedly no one compared to the 11 million + WoW has. But yeah, he's just an ass in general.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
pourmecoffee, that sounds suspiciously like a complaint that FF's user base skews towards higher IQs... ;-)
- Karim
I have no idea what pourmecoffee is talking about. I talk about politics and see political posts all day long on friendfeed. It's why I'm so engaged by it. Twitter? You couldn't have a proper political discussion on Twitter if you even wanted to.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, The conversation happens easier because there isn't any concept of threading in Twitter except when the engine catches an @reply. Imagine how easy it will be to start discussions about anything using the Jabber chat client. FriendFeed could start automatically generating MUC (multi-user chat) rooms, and give a jabber:// link
- rob friedman
coffee, you are definitely following the wrong people here if you think that.
- Alex Scoble
SPAM
- Mike Nayyar
OK now you are confusing fun with media and political people with politics. There's plenty of fun and politics going on in friendfeed with REAL people as opposed to talking heads. As it should be. We don't need talking heads here when we can speak for ourselves.
- Alex Scoble
You could also argue, depending on the sphere you survey, that nobody uses Twitter, Google Reader, Techmeme, TechCrunch or many other sites. In our bubble, we use all those. FriendFeed is being used, and it is getting more active.
- Louis Gray
Is that Robert Seidman...on FriendFeed? Welcome back man!
- Hutch Carpenter
Robert, you were awesome on GG today...thanks for making the arguments so well.
- Karoli
Alex Scoble is now discriminating against the body-less...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
BTW in less than 20 minutes we've collected over 40 names here http://beta.friendfeed.com/itblogg... that's a lot of nobodies that are using friendfeed.
- Alex Scoble
We don't need "stars" that just come on here and don't participate. We need real people having real conversations, which is exactly what we are getting.
- Alex Scoble
Exactly Alex. Actual interaction.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Crowdsourced interviews really need upvotes. It would help if we could permalink and upvote individual comments in this and other FF threads.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Good one, Robert. :)
- Meryn Stol
lol Arrington sucks big time
- Keith Dsouza
+1 Daniel. ;)
- Meryn Stol
All I want to say is, try having this kind of deep discussion on twitter. Just about an impossible task.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
It's moving so fast because we're all obsessed nerds who constantly need to keep in touch AT LIGHT SPEED
- Mike Nayyar
Um, why youyellin' at me? I thought we were just talking.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Why I pass on the Gilmor Gang
- Robert Hafer
so where is the show file? is Gilmor editing the shit out of it---immediate gratification .... just upload the show, Steve? Arrington, the clueless pundit...
- ChaoSurfer
yes, the speed of the auto scrolling really gives u a sense of how things are moving..
- erwinhuang
btw, bob, any plan on mobile version? or is it already out? iphone, symbian?
- erwinhuang
the "web" appears to have a lot of "content" but if you eliminate all the spam ... is there really that much out there? it's not fair to say "no one is using friendfeed" but "there's so very little value in friendfeed" - it's a virtual water cooler, great for entertainment value and time suck, but that just makes it MySpace with a Web 2.0 UI.
- Dossy Shiobara
That's why I don't listen to those people. I don' care about what they say or think.
- Richard A.
I love Arrington's cynism because it makes people think? I understand where he is coming from because he is one type of FF user. I really don't think anyone gets FF yet. Bloggers kinda get it because they consume lots of information but they do not fully get it ... I feel like Scoble might have an idea, but as an early adopter he gets distracted defending shiny new things..someday i might spare the time to enlighten Arrington and the cynics. FF is going to change everything.
- Tweet Feeds
I've noticed people are using it more recently (the BETA appears to have increased activity too)
- Nicholas James
But Robert, that's because you're subscribing to *everyone* on FriendFeed :)
- Ian Betteridge
Ian: that is provably NOT true. :-)
- Robert Scoble
You should try subscribing to everyone, just to see how fast the feed could really move! :)
- Ian Betteridge
unfortunately, friendfeed - even though its technology is absolutely top - won't even scratch facebook or make friends of mine using it; can't upload photos, tag people in there.. can't have a detailed profile of yourself.. that's what most people are in for! if facebook only copied half of the stuff friendfeed offers, it would be nearly untouchable in the middle term.. i know, friendfeed doesn't want to compete with facebook, but given the fact its technology is state-of-the-art: why not try?
- Johannan Edelman
Johannan Edelman, because simply their goal aren't the same
- abdellah
FB first concern is users grow, when FF it is content
- abdellah
ok abdellah, so what? ok, you don't want to become facebook, but that doesn't prevent you from taking over/copying some of facebooks stuff.. why not pulling up a true profile page like on facebook, for starters?
- Johannan Edelman
cause johannan the approach diverge, in FB users profile means users typing data in a form in FF users profile is users stream.
- abdellah
let take robert stream, robert service set, it define in a precise manner who robert is. it is even better then a short bio paragraph.
- abdellah
abdellah: thing is: people would share much more content on FB, but their technology sucks; FF has the technology, so why not trying to attack FB, right now when they seriously failed with the new layout?
- Johannan Edelman
yes, that's true for you and me, coz we know scoble (who doesn't in this tech-affine circle?)
- Johannan Edelman
FB havn't failed my friend, they are opening their content to others. and without even taking celebrity example like robert, a look to my service give you as many profile as servie each service is attached to a profile.
- abdellah
thing is: i use FB most of the time and i really struggle with it when i see the possibilities FF offers. for me, a mixture of FB and FF would be perfect! :)
- Johannan Edelman
johannan hope they will do more :)
- abdellah
I do like the new Twitter-like design
- Kyle Austin
i know that FF has different goals than FB. but goals can change! FF right now is used mostly by tech-savvy people. their tech rocks, the possibilities of FF combined with FB's userbase would totally dominate! why not try to copy some of FB's features? would it hurt? nobody would be forced to use them (a full profile page for instance). FB right now seems vulnerable, and who knows if there might be a better chance of attacking the giant than right now!
- Johannan Edelman
Alex +1
- andy brudtkuhl
The superior Platform wins in the end. Example: Facebook vs. MySpace.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Agree with Garin, like IP over other early protocols in first ages.
- Guy Vander Heyden
no one? 240.000 people is not really no one...
- Jorg Jansen
garin: what do you mean by "superior"? FF has technological superiority when it comes up to feeds and the way you are able to interact with other users real-time; but FB offers a much larger variety of services. and despite the different flaws, i think it's superior right now. btw: technological superiority never was a guarantee for success.. think of betamax vs. vhs, windows vs. apple at the beginning, and there are many many more..
- Johannan Edelman
So roughly a week later, has Arrington eaten his humble pie yet? I think this week especially he's been proven wrong.
- George Hall (Australia)
What a gift to friendfeed: Twitter is down.
Daniel Rowley, Luca Filigheddu, Rob James and 73 other people liked this
"It's cool, I can chill." Yeah, but I'll chill on Friendfeed
- Alan Le
No surprise there, twitter has been awful all day
- Daltonsbriefs
it's a conspiracy I tell ya!
- Peter Ghosh
It's really hard to understand Twitter when it's down all the time...
- Juan Pablo González
Especially with FF's new beta Twitter-like UI. :-)
- Brent Logan
Come on, they certainly have one of the cutest down messages...
- Jef
yup, thats why i came here.
- jason l baptiste
is there a FF equivalent of tweetdeck and a good iphone app?
- Pat Richards
I was just thinking the same thing. It's either good for FriendFeed or Facebook.
- Roger @ CineVegas
Here's the deal on the downtime on the Twitter blog: http://blog.twitter.com/2009...
- Dion Hinchcliffe
That´s why i am here
- Ramiro Arturi
I'm watching this live update stuff here on beta for the 1st time - it's really nice 8]-
- Frédéric Dénommé
Pat: I just use the web interface on my iPhone. Why doesn't that work for you?
- Robert Scoble
How did I know I was going to see this from you just now?
- drew olanoff
FriendFeed is a permanent freezer ;-)
- Larry Hudson
Agreed! as soon as I saw it was down - I came here right away. :)
- Tony
Robert: yeah it does but not near as nice as a dedicated app maybe I'll write one
- Pat Richards
Twitter loves Friendfeed. That's why it's down on the first day of beta.friendfeed.com
- akihito
The Twitter Web interface on the iPhone is what I use. Even better than SMSing. Dedicated apps are too slow. Though I've been using http://twitpic.com e-mailing more and more recently.
- Dion Hinchcliffe
I knew something was not right when tweoples icons started disappearing
- Bryan Thatcher
I have to agree. With no twitter to use for the next hour or so, at least I still have my FriendFeed.
- George Hall (Australia)
Noooooo!
- TheHenry
Funny; I was thinking the same thing. Maybe I should switch order (logon FF 1st, Twitter 2nd)
- Larry Hawes
Like Arringon said, it is the cool application that nobody uses
- Menno te Koppele
Just like Macs are cool computers nobody uses.
- Ken Sheppardson
At this point, it would take an extended unplanned outage to make a dent in Twitter. FriendFeed has had a superior feature set and user experience for 18 months, but simplicity plays well in many markets.
- Louis Gray
my guess is the syndication to Twitter application they have got some extreme usage today, all those Likes, comments, beta popularity stuff, and then the regular users.
- rob friedman
Thanks to Twitter, I got inspired to write a new blog post... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
Twitter is back online!
- Winston Teo
its a good day for FF :)
- shaff
only for one hour and it's back...
- ybs
BTW - Your avatar ROCKS - Shun the Non-Believers! SHUUUN!
- Frédéric Dénommé
Yeah, love the Incredible Hulk-style avatar...
- George Hall (Australia)
@martin writing a blog post when Twitter is down makes sense, in that when there are major blackouts 9months later more babies than usual.
- rob friedman
Maybe Google will buy FriendFeed, not Twitter! :)
- Shanthala Balagopal
It was enough for me to come check it out. I'm shocked at how many services I can aggregate here. Plus the "imaginary friend" feature? Brilliant!
- CAJ, somewhere else
Why do you feel the need to create an artificial turf war between FF and other services? The genius of FF is that it brings those services together. Rabid fanboism only serves to alienate users and is a clear sign of insecurity.
- Erik K Veland
always...
- kang
oops...just got the fail-whale again on Twitter!
- Kenny
Twitter is Peaking - http://www.micropersuasion.com/2009...
Rajiv Doshi, Sarah Perez, Kol Tregaskes and 36 other people liked this
TwitterBait. But I couldn't resist anyway.
- Robert Scoble
But disagree that's it's peak is near, I'd predict strong growth for a while still
- sofarsoShawn
sofaroshawn: yeah, I disagree with that too, but it's fun to test that theory. I do notice that lots of users who are coming lately don't engage. It will be interesting to see how Twitter does with a mainstream audience that uses it less than the geeks did.
- Robert Scoble
The early adopter wave may be peaking, but the Twitter itself is far from peaking. The mainstream masses are just beginning to hear and evaluate Twitter and a small trickle may be appearing. So the ride is far from being over:)
- Roney Smith
im a lil worried about all the spammers/advertisers/people who just push out tweets w/ no interactions, personality, etc....add in the new FB changes. the race will be interesting.
- stanleyyork
I don't think Twitter's growth will slow (though I'm not sure if it actually will be 1300% over a year, could be little lower) but there are some good points made in the article. For me Twitter is just *one* network, with its own peculiarities... I think the market can sustain a lot of networks side by side. In particular, because none of the big networks (Facebook, Twitter, FF) support faceted identities, people may like to use each network for different purposes. I'm on all three.
- Meryn Stol
more celebrities, more buzz, more users
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
LOL someone already retweeted this via scobelizer & looking at his stream what a tard, I just unfollowed him
- sofarsoShawn
Robert, re "TwitterBait": I think posting this would get you killed on Twitter. :P
- Meryn Stol
peaked for me awhile ago - still have acct but don't push to it anywhere and interact there via ff, the poor tech platform is primary reason
- mike "glemak" dunn
I worry about Spam too. My email notifiers are disappointing every day because of it. I see a new follower and think "Please be a real person, like me without 17k already followed." We need the capability of settings with more sophistication like Myspace and/or Facebook. I love Tweetdeck too and can't Twitter without it. I just hope Twitter gets these things in place soon or even though there is growth, the quality of who uses Twitter is going to decline.
- mrsha
Its like Peak Oil. Peak Twitter. Its all downhill from here... time is short on this fatally troubled planet...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I get spammed almost every day and get followed by others who rarely interact. What bothers me is when a person follows thousands and is being followed by as many, they rarely interact with you anymore. I mean, how can anyone keep up with that many people. To some, its a numbers game; for me, I like social interaction and if I feel ignored, i'll move on. I do like the exchange of information but I find a lot of pretentiousness on twitter.
- Tommy Lane
Twitter jumped the shark when marketers and spammers (different?) discovered it.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Twitter peaked six months ago and now the momentum comes from those who are new to the service, but far less engaged.
- Richard A.
perhaps predicting Twitter's peak doesn't work in the same way as other social networks from past and present, as Twitter is more of a platform than any other network ever was/is. I don't think Twitter as a platform has peaked: see how many apps and dev is going on. The peak for Twitter will be when the flow of new and improved Twitter apps will be declining...
- Mathieu Ayel
I think I will use Friendfeed more and more in the future, e.g. as a forum for my podcasting show. I think Ev will come up with something bright regarding Twitter. He was the co-founder of Blogger. I am using Twitter as a journal for remembering good things that are happening in my life. I mark these tweets with a hashtag #GoodThing so I could search on it later on.
- Martin Lindeskog
Peaking...I don't think so. Going into Phase 2? I just worried what Google will do with it.
- John Flynn
Twitter may not be peaking, but changing into something else other than what the developers originally had planned. I still see growth for Twitter as long as they listen to their users. At Blellow.com we're much more involved in the community as we use the site for the same purposes as our users: to find work. The organization by Groups was just an obvious necessity.
- Blellow!
It's actually Friendfeed which is peaking: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- sofarsoShawn
Well, the rate of increase is still increasing itself, so I don't think there's a peak. Assume growth follows an S-shape curve - we're not even close to peaking.
- Mike Reynolds
of course ff hasn't peaked shawn but that thread definitely should convince lindsey to stick around ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
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