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Passionate Twitter users seem to want to evangelize it to everyone. "Twitter is changing the world! You need to get one before it's too late!" I never feel that way about Friendfeed. It's more that it greatly enhances *my* online experience, not that I think everyone should have one or that they'd even enjoy it.
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/sends Daniel pills and an intervention kit.
- Louis Gray
I don't say that about either Twitter or FF
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I think the reason is that FF is more civilized and has not yet attracted the funboys of each service/brand/whatever
- George Iordanou
To me it's that Friendfeed is a very flexible and powerful service that requires a bit more web savvy to really grok compared to Twitter. I don't think everyone should have to know how RSS works or what the other 94,000 socnets out there do but if you're interested and willing to investigate then FF turns into a great homebase for one's news, community, and info discovery activity.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I know *my* use of FF encompasses more than most people have the time or interest for so I don't really try to sell my use cases as great examples. There's probably still room on FF for people who don't want to be power users, I just haven't spent too much time figuring out where that room is.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Congressman Wants to Ban Download Caps. Yes, please! http://blog.wired.com/busines...
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If that type of legislation passes then they also couldn't regulate electricity, water, gas, or any other type of utility if the private company that provides your utility deems it necessary. I don't think the libertarian in me can get behind this idea.
- xero
I don't think it follows that they couldnt regulate other utilities. Why not?
- Andrew Baron
Almost everything I access on the internet is paid for (commercials, banner ads, sponsorship, etc.). If I can turn on my tv and leave it on all day, why can't I do the same with my internet connection? I call BS on ATT, Comcast, and Time Warner.
- Eric Thompson
How about we ban government sponsored monopolies so what Verizon can provide fiber to me since Sprint/Embarq refuses to? And banning caps will raise prices or result in charge-by-MB because of the abusers.
- John Rubier
What is infuriating is that when I signed up for Comcast it was 'unlimited' and they unilaterally changed it to capped and they give you no tools for telling how much you have used by their meter. TWC/Comcast/whoever - no difference really in my eyes. When companies pull moves like that and then bring back the same product but with wildly different pricing they should expect backlash. The TWC pricing is particularly harsh for 1GB.
- chris tirpak
Here in Australia, our providers at least have decent online meters. By the same token, it's not like we have a truly "unlimited" plan on data yet. And you'd be surprised at what our MAIN provider charges for a measly 150mb for mobile phones per month. Once we go over a certain amount, the providers all charge you the excess.
- George Hall (Australia)
A good percentage of people are trying to get Internet service considered a utility and thus regulated like all the others (supposedly for the good of the people). I don't see how legislation to ban the idea of maximum usage by a single customer is good for the people. Just like electricity (which is required for inet svc), if one or more people are using too much the providers can lower or stop flow to them to maintain a certain level of svc to other customers.
- xero
Caps will utterly destroy any hope of IPTV taking off any more than it already has.
- Josh Haley
If a provider can not provide enough to everyone by need, then those with higher needs will move on to another provider that can provide them with enough. If there is not a provider for them then they will find another route such as acquiring the utility independently or complaining until the service exists. While the lack of caps will be good to the consumer and tech in the short term, it could easily hurt business expansion due to a handful of abusers.
- xero
I think it is up to the consumer to demand a certain level of service and transparency from their service providers. In the US, we've let them walk over us for years now. AT&T only functions through abuse of its customers via price gouging and faulty billing. If an ethical business had its self-defeating internal structure, it would have collapsed years ago.
- xero
@xero, so let me see if I follow. We have crappy broadband now. You support the telcos in their plan to make broadband crappier. That much I get. And the reason you support them -- now this is the tricky part -- is because if we don't allow them to make it even crappier now, it will hurt business expansion and.....become so crappy it'll be worse than nothing? Or would there be a black hole that would consume the universe? I'm not following your line of thought.
- j1m
I don't support them in making it crappier. We have crappy broadband because the public hasn't outright demanded better broadband, sure a handful of us have, but the vast majority just take what they can get. It's getting better in tech-heavy areas, but it's rolling out slow. I just don't see the need for random govt intervention in a system it doesn't technically regulate at the moment. It must first adopt it as a strategic utility before it can start making tactical regulations.
- xero
Caps are a viable route to maximizing the current infrastructure while gathering capital for expanding and upgrading that infrastructure. If there is any legislation on ISPs it should be for transparency in terms and truth in advertising. The implementation of new technology and hardware and the promotion of a more competitive market should be guided by the govt for the good of the consumer, but not forced.
- xero
If the market is not ready to switch/upgrade and the govt forces them to, then they will have to change practices so they can make the money to do what the govt told them. The companies have limited funds, limited time, currently limited unused capacity, and limited proven tech. To get to the goal they need to change the things they can, such as package offerings, pricing, special billing, and available/maximum bandwidth to each customer.
- xero
If the regulation just says, "you can't limit the usage for a customer" then the company response will be "ok, then prices will go up to pay for our sudden surge of unplanned infrastructure". Then prices never come back down because consumers get used to paying the outrageous price and no regulation/market stepped in to promote competition, especially now that the entry bar is that much higher.
- xero
But to note re: the actual legislation: it's not about caps, it's about tiering like other utilities. And Time Warner is trying to do it at ridiculously low levels as are other companies. I think that provided the companies are truthful and transparent about what their costs really are to expand/provide service then it might be a viable solution, but according to what I've seen of the proposed rates and plans, they're just being greedy in true teleco fashion.
- xero
All that being said, there is a really strong argument that due to the unique nature of the Internet, no subscriber should have access limited or billed per usage. Only speeds should be tiered, with a regulated minimum speed. It is a great tool to enable the less fortunate or less educated by offering unlimited information. Penalizing those that could benefit from it the most by forcing useless speeds or data limits at low rates would lessen their ability to better self. Tradeoff would be slower coverage
- xero
As an ex-state congressman from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, here is my opinion: typically the government should not interfere in the private bsector, specially because in the future they could charge for the gig and not for the speed, BUT in this case, at least in Brazil, there are only 2 internet companies, and there is no way to create a competitive service (only with satellite), so there is space for STATE law to ban download caps. If I was still in Congress, I would vote for the ban.
- Kiko Cherman
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Upside Of A Down Economy: Crocs To Go Out Of Business - http://www.manolith.com/2009...
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BEST. NEWS. EVER! Happy Friday to me!
- Mona Nomura
from Bookmarklet
OMG! That really is the best news ever! My hatred for those know no bounds!
- John Wang
happy and sad. Sad b/c more ppl are out of jobs
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I feel horrible since they're folding but ECSTATIC those things will FINALLY no longer be produced!!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
I'm kind of sad. They are good for the beach.
- Rodfather
Hit the close out sale, Rodfather
- Mona Nomura
I wish I could LOVE a post.
- Chieze Okoye
of course. by no means am I happy that people will be out of jobs. but i really am happy beyond belief that the horrific monstrosities will be gone.
- John Wang
What are you guys so excited about? There are already knock-offs out there, and established footwear manufacturers will make them as long as they sell.
- Kevin L
YAY!!!!!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
What will we have to make fun of now?
- Tamara
Knock-offs are made because ogs sell. If the OGs are no longer produced - so long knock-offs! It's only a matter of time until they become EXTINCT. Thank god!!! Tamara - Bluetooth headsets ;)
- Mona Nomura
As many people as I see wearing them, this is surprising news. Awesome news, but surprising.
- Sarah Perez
YES.
- felix
YAY! I always thought crocs looked like toys on people's feet!
- ursi
My favorite house shoes.
- Yolanda
oh no... will there now be a whole secondary market for these things? collectors and croc junkies paying obscene money for the dwindling supply?? Maybe I'll stock up on them now. ;)
- felix
Over like
- Pete Delucchi
Dust off your ebay accounts!
- Mona Nomura
@Mona Yes! I like this idea
- Tamara
They may be "comfortable" but they sure aren't cool.
- Nicholas James
I probably wouldn't have that big of a problem with them, if more people took care of their feet. OMG gross.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Sad, really. I know people who work while standing all day who thought these shoes were a gift from God. Hate to see them go for that reason. Personally, I never "got into" them.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
from fftogo
THere are tons of other options - in soles, bunyon shoes, podiatrist certified, etc. Those things are just plain ugly.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Boo! Great as house shoes or on the beach!
- WorldofHiglet
Flip flops are your best friend!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I hate flip-flops too - but they're comfy at home :)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Andru you just broke the interwebs
- AJ Batac
Hide for Andru Edwards comment
- Mil∂d
AND with flip-flops, there's COMPLETE foot exposure going on so people tend to take care of their feet!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Mona, what about those cool platform flipflops from Japan that Mugen wears on Samurai Champuru?
- Matthew DeVries
my kids love their crocs. I love mine. and they are cute sandles. not ugly.
- Erin @queenofspain
Swiss cheese for feet = DO NOT WANT
- Mona Nomura
from IM
A) We're not going out of business. B) we have other stuff that aren't the "ugly" iconic shoes everyone knows and c) Losing my job wouldn't be the best news ever. :-p Seriously though - if people talked about our OTHER shoes, maybe we can move on from the comfort but ugly talk into just comfortable and EVERYONE will be happy.....
- George Smith
the company is also very active in social media
- Erin @queenofspain
I AM SO HAPPY
- Mike Nayyar
I hear their social media guy is wicked awesome, cute, and funny....errrr hi everyone
- George Smith
Hahahhaha. Omg I am mortified - George, I will never celebrate you losing your job. SORRY. I just HATE those shoes!
- Mona Nomura
They are ugly--and they seem like they last forever--we'll still be seeing them around for awhile yet.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Must pass this on.
- Kevin Pedraja
Erin - those look like logger women shoes.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Best story ever - when I was interviewed at Crocs, they asked me what I thought of the company. I said I was impressed with their growth but, and I quote "I'm from New York - You'll never see me wearing those ugly shoes." I was hired immediately. I wear Crocs daily - not the iconic ones - but all our other shoes. I don't like some stuff we do, hate others, and am completely passionate about the ones I love. We're not just a one shoe company! ;-)
- George Smith
George - I stand corrected http://twitter.com/Mona... Good to know you still have your job! And I LOVE the interview story LOL
- Mona Nomura
Whoa. EDIT: +10 George. Good to see you're up and working.
- Derrick
No problem. I figured I'd correct you because I knew you'd listen and you're also always online. ha. We are making some cool stuff and I always want to hear what other people WANT. I mean - our consumers are "people with feet." If you don't like what we do, tell us what you want and let us try. Comfort doesn't have to come in swiss cheese shoes. lol
- George Smith
hahahha but props to you for being up on your game!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Hey - the reason I know you're always online is that I'm always online. That and My patented crocs spidey sense.
- George Smith
Mona, not saying you are one, but the fact someone went to the trouble of writing a definition for "croc-o-phobe" says something about the croc wars. http://shoeblogs.com/2007... :)
- Micah Wittman
Major props to you George, for being up on your social media game. You epitomize a 'good' community manager. ;) Though I still hate those shoes hahahaha ;)
- Mona Nomura
Hey - I don't own a pair with holes. I wear these: http://bit.ly/OzTKG or our Flip Flops religiously. I would probably quit if they made me wear the ones with holes on them. I may love working for Crocs, but I like being the real me a lot more.
- George Smith
Didn't Crocs acquire Bite Shoes (the running sandals company)? Glad they're not going out of business.
- Andrew C
so long... farewell... good bye.....
- Harold - Happy 2010
Well I'm going against the grain here and have to say for a long time I was a croc mocker but I had a change of heart when I wore my mates pair fishing on my boat. Yes they look bad and the bright colours suck but talk about the best shoe for walking in the water fishing and grippies shoe for fishing on the boat. For me a sad day to all you hates please spare a though for me when my fishing crocs wear out where do I turn what do I wear suggestion are welcome. 8(
- John Spencer
from BuddyFeed
The free market has spoken! It doesn't like crocs! Yay! :p
- Rudolf Olah
@Andrew - yeah we did acquire Bite (they did golf shoes and running sandals). Here's an initial example of the golf shoes: http://bit.ly/BiteisnowCrocs
- George Smith
Jason hahahha. Chia pets are 10+ years and still going strong. But you are FUNNY.
- Mona Nomura
HAAALLELUJAH
- Kamilah Gill
wait...chia pets are cool. At least the og ones are. I don't know about the new versions of them though
- Tamara
So what will be the next fad?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Pope condoms joelle
- Steve C
Yeah, I hate that crap!
- Susan Beebe
wait, I just saw that George here said that they *aren't* going out of business. so what actually happened?
- Kamilah Gill
They og article said they MIGHT. George said no. So I Tweeted a rumor smash. :)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Gee... I wear them at work. As a nurse, their great at work.
- Sean
All this over some shoes? what the heck people?
- Bwana ☠
also? lookie at her shoes http://twitpic.com/2imp1
- Erin @queenofspain
<3
- George Smith
OK, QofS, those are some cute crocs on a cute little princess!
- ursi
Dru OMG I can't believe it took this long for me to figure out your super long comment. Deleted, btw. And Erin's Hala is an exception.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, i LOVE my Crocs :-P my feet are in perfect shape thanks to this brilliant brand, thank you!
- Majento
I'm so happy! My wife wears 'em and buys for my youngest as well. I think they are SO ugly.
- Herb Hernandez
You people worry about what others wear WAY too much. Best stick to your own foot wear.
- CW™
Goodbye and Good Riddance!
- Kyle Judkins
It becomes other people's concerns when WAY too many people that don't take care of their feet expose it for COMFORT. Plus, Crocs colors are atrocious. It's criminal, unless you do it right (like Erin's daughter)
- Mona Nomura
but i just saw earlier a pic of a new line of crocs and they looked good :(
- chaz2b
Relax, they're not going out of business! This was a rumor that was squashed :)
- Mona Nomura
no, i just posted the link i was talkling about, http://shop.crocs.com/c-4-foo...
- chaz2b
wooooohooo!
- Christian (Simply X)
I hate this world
- Bwana ☠
It's true that some of the colors are way off, i only buy black ones & they're cool
- Majento
I don't think they will ever go away. Just because you are all hating on them doesn't change the fact that they rock. And wall mart will always sell knock off crocs because they can make a killing. Parents love crocs for kids. If Crocs need to reorg to get past relying on debt to operate so be it.
- Christian Burns
Lol - I'm so far behind this week!! Glad to see George already dropped by and squashed the rumor - after Crocs saved my feet in Austin @ SxSW (thanks to George) I'm a die-hard fan - and no, not of the old-style Mickey Mouse shoes - but of the cute ones I wore all over down there that no one would've known were crocs except I couldn't help telling everyone! :)
- Lucretia Pruitt
I was a "croc-hater" too for awhile. My kids absolutely love them. Personally, I own Nike, Adidas, Prada, Tommy Bahama and Croc flip-flops (normal looking) and the Crocs are by far the most comfortable.
- Adam Rogers
I'm with Adam. I don't wear them myself, but my daughter loves them. And if she loves them and can put them on herself (she's 3), they're winners in my book.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
And like someone above said - they're not going away. There are too many knock-offs for the style to go away.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
heh. at the horrific prices they charge for original Crocs, I went and shamelessly bought knock-offs at roughly 10% of the price - a whole rainbow collection. my feet love them when I go malling. I save my original Hush Puppies for the times I need to put up an "image" for other people. =)
- Starshadow Rivaulx
My kids love them. I do not. To each, their own.
- Martha
Hot tuna and cold unagi. Is anything so sublime?
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two most tasty fishes. you need to add grouper there for a perfect fish lunch.
- Kirill Bolgarov
here's a great video that explains how The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) works http://laughingsquid.com/how-the...
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It's like tossing a TV out a third story window and examining all the little pieces on the sidewalk to figure out how it works.
- Trevor Lee
Blog comments are dead: discuss - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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So, if my FriendFeed on this is embedded on my blog, will it be considered a comment? Blog posts are daily journals that are dead, until comments bring them back alive and keep them living!
- Michael Sheehan
from twhirl
sorry Robert but you're wrong
- Steven Hodson
"Trying to control where comments on your blog posts are displayed is fruitless" would be be my version of your post
- Brian Sullivan
Heheh. Already more comments here too.
- Robert Scoble
Isn't the web meant to be "hyperlinked" at first?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Dead? No. Being re-invented as we speak? Yes.
- Mike Doeff
So Robert...where are you more likely to respond to a comment? Here on FF or over on your blog?
- Jerry Chacon
If FriendFeed would just partner with Disqus to handle comments, we'd have a comment system that cut across all the channels, no?
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm against "centred" things. Look at twitter. The most distributed things are, the best it is.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Jerry: I'm equally likely to respond to a comment here as well as on my blog. Ken, Disqus can help, but not really. I still like commenting on FriendFeed better than on people's blogs. For a whole lot of reasons. Much of which has to do with UI and iPhone accessibility.
- Robert Scoble
It's because people want to OWN their own comments. You can store your own comments wherever you like because they belong to you. I wonder how many people started blogging because they wanted to join the conversation on their own blog rather than just replying on other people's blog?
- Chris Paton
@Robert - I commented here strictly based on your headline as I am in the middle of a post and your post hasn't shown up in my reader yet (yes I could have clicked the link but I'm busy - post reading can wait) - I very often comment on the blogs if the post is *sufficently interesting* enough to entice me to post a comment.
- Steven Hodson
directeur: cool. My experience shows that most people don't care about those issues. Including on Twitter. When it's up I still see a Tweet every second coming into my account.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm clearly quite visible here, but even for me, I still get more comments on the blog than on FriendFeed, in most cases. See my article about that here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Louis Gray
Heh...I commented on your blog Robert, but I'm seeing a "waiting moderation" message. Score 1 for FriendFeed (you're seeing this comment immediately).
- Hutch Carpenter
I second that comments are being reinvented. I also agree with people wanting to own their comments. I've just become so used to Disqus and FriendFeed that I couldn't believe that some blogs still had the old Wordpress commenting mechanism.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Louis: I still am getting a lot of comments, but I'm definitely seeing the tide switching. I bet that much of your audience doesn't know you are on FriendFeed all the time yet.
- Robert Scoble
I'm thinking that the "latest" section on my homepage should just be my brand's Ffeed
- Tom Beardshaw
Cool. And the comments are all here on FriendFeed.. Very cool. Of course, for Joe.Blogspot the thesis is incorrect. But maybe it's a trend.
- john conroy
FF allows us to cross-post back to twitter when responding to tweets in our FF feed here. Wouldn't it be possible to send our FF comments to Disqus comments back to the blogs?
- sedgewick
If it's a blogger I know is on FF, I'll comment on FF.
- Tom Landini
I think he's right...if not dead, they are close
- George Gray
We've had several very useful discussions on scripting.com recently.
- Dave Winer
the-iBlog doesn't get many comments, and I'm not commenting on other blogs as much either.
- Oli from the-iBlog
gee i never got many blog comments in the first place
- Andy Sternberg
from twhirl
A bit premature but inevitably I think you will pan out to be right. It seems like more of a chore checking my own blog's comments lately, and I seldom leave blog comments for lack of patience with login/typekey/captcha lameness. The ease and speed of commenting here has made blog comments seem downright stale.
- Steve Isaacs
Not totally dead but getting there! You should add FF comments to your blog, I just did and love the integration: http://www.seanpercival.com/blog...
- sean percival
Your post does have some merit, Robert. Before FriendFeed (and still currently), people's actual visits to blogs were diminishing, while reading through rss readers and such was increasing. This is especially true for tech blogs. I think people were longing to be able to comment via their feed reader without having to go back to the blog. FriendFeed seems to solve this, and I think will only get better as they improve.
- Jesse Stay
I don't want blog comments to die... I love receiving them!
- Paul Stamatiou
I want to also add that there's nothing wrong with people not coming back to your blog if you have a way for them to still build community around your blog, outside of the blog itself. If you can still monetize that audience or turn that audience into some value as a blog owner, traffic on blogs themselves will decrease even more in the future, while community around those blogs will only increase.
- Jesse Stay
Mine have always been pretty dead...
- Fraser Smith
FF/Disqus are disruptive technologies but if they prevented blog owners from getting at comments on their writings and integrating them back into the page, you'd better bet that bloggers would work around that.
- Andy Murdoch
I've noticed most blogs don't get many comments, and the ones that do tend to get comments of a spammy sort (people pimping their own blogs in Techcrunch comments, for example). For the most part, real discussion still takes place on forums, or various incarnations of the such (which I'd classify Friendfeed and even Twitter as). People that like to have conversations tend to gravitate towards places where they can decide what to talk about - people's blogs don't really offer that.
- Eric P
Depends on the blog, however, on the majority of blogs comments are dead.
- Dave Martin
Here is the comment that I left on your blog: "Robert, you are a master at baiting, I’ll give you that. :) On a separate note, clearly people weren’t wrapping their heads around the car post. Perhaps it’s because automobiles are outside of your perceived areas of expertise?"
- Mark Dykeman
It's more than just comments that are changing. Comments aren't dead but they are 'moving' . Clearly a sign of both Friendfeed's appeal. It's happening faster than this guy expected. Most users will still go directly to the blogs and websites they like for a long time. I had several blogs with the comments turned off and they still were relatively easy to SEO. The dialog is clearly better here. Go Disqus and FF!
- Charlie Anzman
Claiming that "XYZ is dead is dead". I think FF comments and the like are interesting, but unless it's easier to create the intersection for the average user, this is going to be an inside joke. Maybe that's why people like it.
- tim
Now... can I replace my commenting system on my WP blog with Friend Feed? I mean, I'd be sad to see ID go away, but it seems there's more activity here. Edit: Found this: http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Adam C.
Comments are definitely in a state of change, not dead though. Maybe once Friendfeed gets more mainstream we'll see more blogs using the FF plug-in, along with Disqus and Seesmic to enable more conversations between platforms. David Risley has an interesting perspective on this: http://www.davidrisley.com/2008...
- Larry Kless
Wait till the spammers start targetting FriendFeed
- Peter Reavy
I for one accept our new commenting overlords.
- David Cohn
Over the last year, we've seen an increase in the number of comments on our Boulton & Co. blog, but not an increase in their quality. I see, however, that the Huffington Post has a loyal band of "commenters". I think you're more advanced in this area in the States than we are in the UK.
- Miranda Richardson
not sure if i fully agree with you (even your 2/3 dead posted elsewhere), but this is exactly why i love reading your blog and why i'll follow your conversations wherever you have them. and so my thought: comments aren't dead, they are just simultaneously getting more dispersed (friendfeed+twitter) and easier to follow (disqus). however, commenting is still the domain of the few. i think new and very different forms of interaction around content will come soon (i'm working on one myself).
- mike
Really ;-)
- sachin sawant
Five things that are still broken in browsers, ten years later - http://the.taoofmac.com/space...
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Perfect!
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