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FriendFeed Isn’t Dying, Although It’s a Nice Line - http://www.inquisitr.com/14164...
Dobromir Hadzhiev, endiaferon, TheHenry and 46 other people liked this
It's interesting that there's so much noise about friendfeed. It is growing much faster than Twitter did in its first year and is much more important to the new web. The problem is that not very many people know they need an aggregator. At least not yet. But, the truth is that friendfeed has always needed features that I've just started to call "track" in honor of Steve Gillmor. I asked for those features back in February and still haven't gotten them. Until we get those kinds of features then the real time web will not go to the next level.
- Robert Scoble
I'm confused about the real-time web (there's no Wikipedia entry!). I thought all of the ping services that emerged years ago were in the business of capturing updates from blog posters. Wasn't that what Dave's weblogs.com, among others, did?
- Scott Loftesness
I'd love to give Bret or even the loyal power users who help ff, some feedback. They're too close to see some things. Some NON technical things.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
yes scott as you would have seen if Feedburner worked, because it's all about ping servers. Check back in another hour or so.
- Steve Gillmor
Twitter is an input to FriendFeed; that's why the comparisons don't really work. Comparing Twitter to FriendFeed is like comparing pasta to lasagna.
- Daniel Miessler
I message people who follow me on Twitter to follow me on FriendFeed. Most all of them are not familiar with FriendFeed, but are willing to give it a try. This means there is room to grow. However, many people who have used FriendFeed in the past say they prefer Twitter. But it is not an either/or. Twitter and FriendFeed are not competitive. They serve different functions and people *don't* understand this. I think once they understand this they will adopt it in greater numbers.
- Bill Romanos
Scott: ping servers are centralized. The real-time web that's evolving now is decentralized. Getting it all to work together is what TRACK is all about.
- Robert Scoble
I use Twitter, FF and FB. Not everyone I know is on all three sites. I like Twitter for rapid-fire snapshots, but am coming to appreciate FF more and more for its texture and the ability for people to engage on a deeper level.
- Sue Radd
I have Friend Feed, Plurk, Twitter, and Facebook running all at once. For some reason FF doesn't catch it all.
- MarkCarras
I'm all for decentralization, but it seems to me that FriendFeed and Twitter are pretty centralized!
- Scott Loftesness
I have no desire at all for FF to go mainstream. The slines can keep FaceBook and MySpace.
- iTad
I use FriendFeed to post to Twitter. I learned this from Scoble. Thanks
- Bill Romanos
@Robert Hehe, I wrote a post this afternoon claiming that the real time web isn't important at all. Am I in trouble now? http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
- Alexander van Elsas
I have no idea what I would do without FF right now, it is my gateway to the world, much more so than any other system I have ever used.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Real-time isn't nearly as important as getting the right information at the right time. Big difference imo.
- Alexander van Elsas
Friendfeed is miles better than Twitter but too complicated for the masses to go mainstream. Twitter is a training course for Friendfeed. Once Twitter is swamped in noise FF will rise 2011+.
- Thomas Power
Friend feed will become more relevant and important as Twitter fills up with auto dms and spam and more
- Richard Binhammer
sidenote: Don't understand why Friendfeed would be better than Twitter. They serve a different purpose. And they both get filled with crap at times
- Alexander van Elsas
FriendFeed is alive and well.
- ka3drr
using FF is a diversion from my normal work right now, but I have high hopes that soon enough it will become integrated with my workflow. once it gains critical mass (read: popular beyond you 1st adopter web-types, sorry to typecast) FF will be a useful communication tool for business as well as fun.
- grant fox
Alexander, it's easier to add delays to a real-time system than it is to add real-time to a delayed system. My response to your blog post is here: http://friendfeed.com/e... I also want to answer the people who commented two months ago. Scott Loftesness, are you still reading this?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm of the belief that if you are concerned about Guantanamo prisoners being 'in your backyard', you probably would hate to know that there are far more modern, capable prisoners in there. Like, a lot.
Jennifer, Steven Perez, Jeff P. Henderson and 5 other people liked this
It means you don't worry about a threat that is no greater than what you are already facing.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The most hilarious part is the 'alcatraz' one. Hello, it's an old pile of rocks that's a tourist trap. ROFLSAURUS. If you're thinking Alcatraz is relevant today, mayyyyybe you should look at a calendar. 21st century and all.
- Eric Rice
@Glen: what is it you are concerned about? what do you think will happen?
- MikeAmundsen
My home is not a prison facility. A prison is a prison facility. That's where, you know, like, *prisoners* go.
- Eric Rice
If a prisoner in your backyard is an issue, maybe you shouldn't live NEAR A PRISON, hurrrr :)
- Eric Rice
@Glen: ok, thanks.
- MikeAmundsen
Hey Glen, nyah nyah nyah nyah!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah but it's fun.
- Eric Rice
And makes the comment count SOARRRRR. <3
- Eric Rice
@mark: so one of the issues is that moving the prisoners to the US will afford them rights they do not deserve, right?
- MikeAmundsen
This is why you don't circumvent due process the way GW did it. As messed up as it is to say, it would have been better to do as Glen said and shoot them on the battlefield.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Due process always applies, unless you want to legitimize the same to be done to our soldiers.and GW most CERTAINLY circumvented due process by putting them in Gitmo and by saying that the courts had no jurisdiction there. It was a complete sham of our legal justice system.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
But clearly there's a problem when the war is declared as permanent and the facility is declared outside the bounds of US and international law.
- Tinfoil 2.0
@mark: i wandered off. yeah, i did not mean to imply your agreement w/. anything when i restated the point. i think you've been clear on this in the past, eh? i was a bit lazy in my post - my bad. IMO, Bush admin's decision to *not* engage in reciprocity by treating enemy combatants as POWs was a bad move. they knew what they were doing, too. the use of Guantanamo is evidence of that. finally, i think it falls to us to resolve this. sooner, not later. and as you point out. it's gonna be tough.
- MikeAmundsen
my secret time saving email tip: change your desktop email signature to "Sent from iPhone" - then write 1 sentence replies! sshhh
Ashish Bogawat, Rob Boek, Jesper Kjær Hansen and 99 other people liked this
That's GENIUS!
- Chris Saad
I do that all the time. Helps if you don't capitalize words and make misspellings too--looks more authentic.
- Andrew Leyden
sweet. I'm going to start doing that so people will think I have an iPhone.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
My secret too. Be careful not to type too much w/o errors or it will raise suspicion.
- Craig Mische
That is genius actually, I like it.
- xero
how many of us do this? (and probably have people do it back to us ;-)
- Tobias Peggs
OMG. brilliance.
- Anthony Baker
LOVE THIS!
- BEX
Don't do this with people that know what the X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) email header means.
- Lars Trieloff
THAT IS AWESOME!!!
- Keith - @tsudo
I like it a lot. My emails have become shorter and shorter anyway, so used to twitter.
- jjprojects
smart :)
- Sebastian
Just don't ever attach anything! You'll give yourself away.
- Gregory Cohen
BRILLIANT!!!!
- Paul
Classic
- Nina Morena
Simple for me, mine does come from an iPhone 98% of the time.
- T-Bone Tsali, FF Cherokee
Oh.... that's GOOD....
- Ciaoenrico
I wonder if people would think I'm never in the office ;-) Double benefit!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
New Friendfeed app - Mother Feed for the iPhone - http://www.motherapp.com/apps...
Aaron Hood, Daniel Rowley, Maryam and 23 other people liked this
Cool, I'll have to check it out.
- Cheryl Jones
Sounds interesting. BuddyFeed wasn't very good, so I'm waiting to hear that this one is MUCH better before I spend $1.99 on another FriendFeed app. And the iPhone version of the FF page sets the bar pretty high.
- Josh Bancroft
If anyone's keeping track, I would not recommend Nambu. It does Twitter and FriendFeed, but it crashes even more than BuddyFeed does. I kind of liked the UI better than BuddyFeed, but early on Nambu didn't even save my login info properly. I'm curious to try this out, but yes, I am getting tired of spending small amounts on these apps that fail to deliver.
- Cheryl Jones
@steverubel I don't see Re-Share capabilities, which is a feature I've been hoping for
- Michelle Darnell
Thanks to Kevin's comment, I think I'll hold off. I much prefer a native app to a mobile website, but in this case, I'll wait more. When the heck is Frendly supposed to show up in the App Store??
- Cheryl Jones
Southpaws of the world, UNITE! - http://tumblelog.sarahlane.com/post...
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- Ari Braginsky
leftie 4 life
- Fleagle
Obama absolutely did the right thing by shutting down GitMo. It's been a black eye for far too long. Human rights for all.
Kol Tregaskes, mace, Joe "Looptid" Pierce and Ian May liked this
To new friendfeeders (there are thousands due to Twitter invites and follows), here's what you need to know:
Laura Norvig, MiaD, FunTimesGuide and 111 other people liked this
http://www.kyte.tv/ch... 20 things about friendfeed video
- Robert Scoble
1. Likes are important. They share items with your followers. Plus, they make a cool database. Mine are at http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
2. If you are seeing too many things, turn off "friend of a friend." Click "hide" on one of the "friend of" items. Then click it again to see the options to hide all items like it.
- Robert Scoble
3. Hide is your friend. #2 already shows you how you can use hide in one way, but I use it to hide all Twitter messages that don't have a comment or a like. This makes friendfeed much more useful. Also, all hidden items are at the bottom of each page.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone else? Please add to the list. Lost is on, so I'll see how many I can bang out during commercial breaks.
- Robert Scoble
There are many, many good intro to FF articles. Zee has written several
- FFing Enigma
So is this going to be another 25 things you didn't know about...post ? ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
Joining rooms can often cause lots of noise also if you have them showing up in your main feed.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I just discovered "Rooms" today. If there's a particular topic you're interested in for example: TWIT, iPhone, Twitter, Identica, etc. - hop on over to that room - and start up or contribute to existing conversation. It's addictive!
- Cole Orton
Tina: link them in here.
- Robert Scoble
Creating lists and grouping your friends is a good way to cut down on noise or see a focused set of posts.
- Jeff P. Henderson
4. You can "group" your users together into things called "lists." For instance, if you think I'm a noisy asshole, you can remove me from your home feed and put me into a list called "noisy assholes." That way you can see all your family and friends and not me. Of course, please do come over and check out your noisy asshole list, because sometimes we do say something interesting. I hope. :-)
- Robert Scoble
5. You will, most certainly, find your productivity decrease. Though your ability to be entertained and waste on the Internet will surge! :)
- Jeremy Toeman
5. This is a forum but with a couple of differences from forums you've used before. First, moderation is totally decentralized -- you can delete comments under your items, I can delete comments under mine. If you see spam or other stuff that's not good you can delete those by using the "More" menu. Second, everyone's view is different based on who they follow. So, if it's boring here it's your own fault! You aren't following exciting enough people!
- Robert Scoble
6. Items with graphics and photos generally get more likes than items without.
- Robert Scoble
7. Rooms are very cool and it will take you a while to discover why. Hint: you can build your own ego room, and bring in RSS feeds from search engines and news services. I've built a room for Davos/World Economic Forum, for instance, where you can see this in action: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Robert Scoble
8. If you say "bacon" in your posts you will get some likes. People here go crazy for bacon. Oh, and if Tad starts a meme you have two choices: block everyone who participates or join in for the next day or two!
- Robert Scoble
6a. To make photos from your WordPress blog come through to FriendFeed, just install the Media RSS plugin "mrss": http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
9: Most of your friends will not get friendfeed. That won't stop me from talking about it, though.
- Robert Scoble
RE: #9 Or the third option, hide memes on an as needed basis. Some are more enjoyable than others.
- FFing Enigma
10. Make sure you add all your services to friendfeed. Including Twitter. Let your followers hide items or services they don't care about.
- Robert Scoble
11. To see cool stuff, click on "Best of" on the top right, but note that behaves differently depending on where you are (each list will have a different "best of" and each room, too.
- Robert Scoble
10a. Everybody expects everybody to hide services. It's not rude to use the "Hide" feature on your friends' stuff.
- Bruce Lewis
12. You can see everything you've liked or commented on, and so can all your followers (just visit the "Me" page and look in top right for the links -- or visit someone else's friendfeed account and see the same links on THEIR account!)
- Robert Scoble
"Like" means you like that a person shared something, not that you necessarily like the news itself. But for the benefit of other new friendfeed users you might comment to explain your "Like" for a plane crash item.
- Bruce Lewis
13. Looking for more people to follow? Try http://friendfeed.com/setting... but note that the recommended items will change depending on who you've followed. So, if you follow noisy assholes, it will probably suggest other noisy assholes for you to follow. :-)
- Robert Scoble
14. It is OK to ignore trolls who are trying to disrupt the conversation like Chris White is here. But if they get really out of hand block them. You do that by unfollowing them (visit their page and you'll see that link at the top of the page). After unfollowing them you'll see an option to block them. Blocking them keeps them from seeing your items and will remove everything they do from your view.
- Robert Scoble
17. If enough people comment simultaneously, the system acts a little wonky.
- Jeremy Toeman
(Note: Chris is OK, he's just playing along here, but I do block other people who get out of hand).
- Robert Scoble
18. If you hover over someone's name with your mouse you'll see whether or not they are following you (and whether or not you are following them). I can see here that Chris White isn't following me. Which means he is bad boy and should be sent to bed without dinner.
- Robert Scoble
26. Friendfeed commentors are often so eager to add to lists sequentially they barely even notice obvious gaps in list numbering (which, you'll also notice is manual, because nobody taught the google guys about the OL tag)
- Jeremy Toeman
19. Everything on friendfeed builds a feed you can subscribe to in Google Reader or other RSS readers.
- Robert Scoble
Jeremy loves messing with me. I'll get him back. :-)
- Robert Scoble
20. In "Tools" you'll find lots of stuff for your blog, how to email in items and photos, and more: http://friendfeed.com/about...
- Robert Scoble
21. Morton Fox has liked 44,943 things. I have no idea how he does it cause I like a lot of things and I've only done 15,000 or so. http://friendfeed.com/mortonf... is his like feed.
- Robert Scoble
15. (yup, that's where we actually left off) It's okay to "like" something distasteful. "Like" really just means "others should read this too". It's also quite overused, much as the word "like" is overused in conversation by anyone who born after the 70s.
- Jeremy Toeman
22. You can see anyone's real-time feed, which shows you what is actually coming into their account at that time. Here's mine: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... warning, it'll make you dizzy.
- Robert Scoble
A good first lesson is; there is no chronological Friendfeed. Don't think you can keep up. Ride it out and enjoy.
- Andrew Smith
23. The "Everyone" tab is useful, but only if you figure out that friendfeed has an interesting search engine underneath. For instance, you can go to the Everyone tab and search only YouTube videos. (Click Everyone, then search for say "Daft Punk" and use the "Advanced" feature in search to constrain it to only YouTube).
- Robert Scoble
Andrew is right. Don't worry about missing stuff. I call it "media snacking." If I have time, I'll dip in here to engage. I'll check the "Best of" pages first, though, to catch up on the popular stuff (usually bacon or a photo meme).
- Robert Scoble
16. Comments cannot be nested, nor can you link to a comment, or even like a comment. You can add another comment and write "+1" to indicate you like another comment, or a higher number, such as "+10" if you very much like a comment. "+100" is to be reserved for the ultimate in commenting. Do not be silly with the "+" system, as this is worth a -4 in case you need to make Friendfeed saving throws later on. Instead, be wise and prudent with your +1s, and they will become your ally for years to come.
- Jeremy Toeman
We never talk much about the search feature. Anything outstanding about it worth mentioning?
- Xavier Vespa
xavier: search is a great way to find friendfeed items that you have put into the system. Click on "Me" and then search. Here's everything in my account that includes the words "how to save journalism:" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
re:16.+10++4=+1@Jeremy
- Andrew Smith
Elevnty. Subscribe to Tad
- iTad
xavier: here's another thing search does very well. Go to "Everyone" and search on something. Now click "advanced" search. I want to know about all the BarCamps that everyone has added to their Upcoming.org site. Here's the search for that: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Search should include rooms but it doesn't.
- Andrew Smith
Unfortunately everyone is now trying out search and it goes down. It's the only thing on friendfeed that is not reliable yet. They are working on it, though. When it comes up, another thing I like about search is you can see items just from one data type. Here are all the items from just Upcoming.org: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Robert Scoble
31. If you get swept away into friendfeedland, don't try to bring others with you. They will mock and ridicule, and no matter what you say they just "won't get it." This is perfectly okay, they may change - or not - but it shouldn't impact your friendfeeding. Don't ever ask real world friends if they saw something you "liked". They didn't. Ever.
- Jeremy Toeman
Very helpful
- James Jackson
Jeremy: I solved that. I just got new friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
You school em Scoble ~ lousy twits
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Chris: you gave bad advice when you said to unsubscribe from someone if they are noisy. That's really stupid. Put them into a list instead and remove them from your main list. That way you'll be able to check on them from time to time and see if anything they did is useful. Also if things are noisy due to me it's probably due to the friend-of-a-friend feature and you can turn that off without unsubscribing (I have turned it off on my account, those hidden items are at the bottom of the page).
- Robert Scoble
Also, that way they won't think you're a jerk for unfollowing them.
- Robert Scoble
Chris is right. You can also edit your comments, or your posts. Which is often useful. But you can only delete other people's posts, you can't edit THEIR comments. And you can only delete comments under items you've started (I could delete Chris's comments, for instance, here, but not on other people's items).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert that's like leaving the Christian Rock station as one of your presets just on the off chance they'll accidentally play Sympathy for the Devil. sure, it *could* happen, but the odds suck.
- Jeremy Toeman
A product made by former Google employees with unreliable search? That's a little ironic. :)
- David Potts
28. Never anger the Mona.
- Jeremy Toeman
David: search on real time items is a pretty tough problem. Even Google hasn't attempted that one yet. Here's a little test for you. Add a weird word to a comment. Say your son's name. Mine is Milan Scoble. Now wait a minute. Search on that name and you'll find that post in the search results. Google can't do anything close to that.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not blaming them, just pointing out the irony. You're right though, I wasn't considering the real time aspect of it.
- David Potts
Jeremy - what did I miss? LOL
- Mona Nomura
29. If you work very, very hard and get more of your own content liked than anyone else's, while at the same time manage to get more followers than anyone else, you will be dubbed the King (or Queen) of FriendFeed. A ceremonial Cape, Gavel, and oddly enough Toothbrush will be sent your way to show off to your peers. You will also receive a 7% discount card good at all participating Chick-Fil-A establishments. All your content on FriendFeed will be permanently bolded. In a nutshell, you be the awesomest!
- Jeremy Toeman
Chris White got blocked by me because he deleted all his comments here. Nasty.
- Robert Scoble
I missed it... were his comments useful?
- Lindsay
Lindsay: no. Actually he was being a troll the whole way through.
- Robert Scoble
Chris White has done that several times with me, so I ended up blocking him after the fourth or fifth time. :|
- Mona Nomura
@Lindsay: they were like poetry. they were uplifting. they elevated us to a new place. and now, i fear, they are no more. those bits shalt not be seen again, possibly not in our lifetime. another way to say it might be... "I felt a great disturbance in the Friendfeed, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
- Jeremy Toeman
Mona: yeah, that kind of attitude sucks. But he demonstrated a new thing: if you behave like an asshole you will get removed from our view. (and ours from his so he can't disturb us anymore).
- Robert Scoble
Seriously, I don't care if you disagree with me, just be cordial and amicable. If you type out your thoughts, stand by them - why delete? If you make a mistake, apologize or edit, if need be. That's why I like you, Robert. You are opinionated but when you feel like you're wrong, you're man enough to admit it, without resorting to personal attacks. That said, I should've listened to you from day one: block jerks.
- Mona Nomura
yes, block jerks... easy rule to follow. If jerk = block! Why would someone delete all their comments?...that makes the entire comment thread get all incoherent. That is sooo lame it's making me laugh... reminds me of grade school antics... gees
- Susan Beebe
32. Ask yourself: would you follow you if you were someone else? If the answer is "yes" ask yourself again, just in case :-)
- Cristian Vidmar
If you become overwhelmed by the amount of information in your feed try these tips for cleaning and organizing your feed. http://bit.ly/14y
- Keith - @tsudo
Best list yet Scoble. You should import the recommendations into a single post so new friendfeeders don't get put off by all of us commenting.
- Keith - @tsudo
awesome, tx for the search tips. custom search + rss = booyaka!
- Xavier Vespa
Thanks from a FF Newb!
- James Cruce
Great list and comments, as always. I don't see anything however, on the use of lolcats?? Can they be used at any time? :)
- Laura Zickus
Other guides to friendfeed are here: http://www.google.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
What's my answer to people who believe conspiracy theories? Everything you read on the Internet is true. Heheheh.
Andy Bakun, Rob Brammeld, Susan Beebe and 32 other people liked this
The earth faked the moon formation!
- Mitch
Robert Scoble really is a member of the Illuminati! He must be stopped before he Immanentizes the Eschaton!
- iTad
Some people will believe in anything. I want to run away from those people as fast as possible. All they do is waste your time.
- Robert Scoble
Telling them that everything on the Internet is true sends them in circles.
- Robert Scoble
It's like a computer program that overflows its stack.
- Robert Scoble
Totally agreed.
- iTad
If it was on Twitter than it must be true. Anything on FriendFeed, however is up for debate ;-)
- Andy Sternberg
I know two people who thought the MacBook Wheel was real...
- Dean Clark
Conspiracy nuts already go in circles. Part of being schizophrenic is going in circles. Around and around all the way down the rabbit hole.
- iTad
Half my office thought it was real Dean...
- iTad
Wait, the MacBook Wheel isn't real? I just pre-ordered one from a Nigerian Prince.
- Kevin Bondelli
I suspect me and @enroc are the only real people on Twitter. The rest is Robert Scoble and all his aliasses. No. Really. I read that in a newspaper. So that is really true.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Dean - score! You now know what to get them for their next birthdays :)
- Micah
My tin foil hat keeps Scoble's tweets from entering my brain directly. :)
- David Andrzejewski
I pick up Robert Scoble's tweets via the iron fillings in my teeth.
- iTad
See, that's funny, because I have this Facebook friend who has a Twitter follower who has a 3rd cousin who worked as MS who said Scoble was a 3rd gen AI bot. No lie...
- FFing Enigma
Twitter search is disabled. I'm sure it is Bush's fault.
- Dean Clark
everything you read on the internet is most certainly true, is it not? are you trying to inject a little sarcasm in your answer?
- Scott Jarkoff
Tad: 5 tons of flax says Robert is really Hagbard Celine in disguise.
- Chris Charabaruk
After getting laid off the first time I quickly started believing conspiracy theories. I blew off all the conspiracy things when I worked there, but it turned out everything we were imagining was true. If we could imagine it, it was probably, and turned out to be true. Since then, even out of the job I'm much more prone to believe, or try to at least understand things people claim to have heard or seen or believe.
- Jesse Stay
I believe conspiracy theories are a conspiracy of conspirators!
- Kevin Leroux
It's interesting that the Bush 43 administration and neoconservatives have been the foremost purveyors of false and demolished conspiracy theories over the last eight years. Just a few of the delusional assertions: 1. Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind 9/11 2. Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind the 9/11 anthrax attacks. 3. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were behind the 9/11 anthrax...
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- Sean McBride
@scobelizer so you and "Kindle Gate"??? I've now lost my faith in humanity
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Governments around the world spend many billions of dollars each year both to engineer and to uncover real conspiracies -- what line of work do you think that agencies like CIA, MI6, Mossad, ISI, FSB, etc. are in? Smart people take real conspiracies very seriously -- they have a powerful influence on human affairs. Many bogus conspiracy theories are the handiwork of government agencies...
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- Sean McBride
Apparently everything is true - Snopes was faking all their debunking. http://www.techchuff.com/web-2-0...
- cian
Sean: I like your take on things... aligns with my views... I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, but your FriendFeed will probably have to do for now. ;-)
- Chris Heath
P2OG (Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group) was of course a mere literary invention.
- Sean McBride
Chris -- one of the most interesting and challenging intellectual activities available to thinking human beings is separating out real conspiracies from conspiracy theories, and especially separating hard conspiratorial facts from deliberate conspiratorial disinformation. Conspiracy theories are often the conspiratorial artifacts of real conspiracies. :) That's a concept that's too...
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- Sean McBride
A few real conspiracies (among thousands explored by reputable, mainstream political analysts and historians): Bernard Madoff, Gulf of Tonkin, Iran-Contra, Jonathan Pollard, Watergate. Do you have any doubt that prosecutors are now developing various conspiracy theories about the Madoff operation? This is what they are paid to do; it's their job. But they try to nail down their theories with facts, and let the facts lead their theories.
- Sean McBride
Sean: oh i'm with you 100%
- Chris Heath
People who get this stuff are not easily bamboozled by official misinformation and disinformation. They keep their criticial and skeptical intelligence intact, which is a very far cry from blindly embracing any conspiracy theory that comes down the pike. Most conspiracy theories are disinformation. Many of the best mainstream historians conduct conspiracy research on a regular basis. Historical research is largely the enterprise of cutting through official lies.
- Sean McBride
I wish people would care as much about things that really matter and affect the world. But hey, let's pretend there isn't a bailout we should be bitching about, a economic situation we should be more deeply investigating and a chance for change in our country that we should be rallying for. Caring about the wrong, irrelevant and sometimes silly things is exactly why we lived in a country that is presently a little fucked.
- Patricia
And what forces produced the bailout and the current economic crisis? Is there a conspiratorial dimension to the bailout in particular? Certainly its operations have been shrouded in secrecy. Why? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is this money being allocated? Who benefits? Who are the key players controlling the bailout? What are their affiliations and interests? What does their social network look like?
- Sean McBride
I now think you are part of the conspiracy to hind the conspiracy!!!!
- John D Reasor
the Apollo never landed on the moon
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Certain elements of the military-industrial complex used the Iraq War as an opportunity for war profiteering. Conspiracy theory. :) And: certain elements of the military-industrial complex played a key role in engineering the Iraq War. And Dwight Eisenhower, who first raised alarms about the military-industrial complex, was a "conspiracy theorist."
- Sean McBride
Wait, what are you hiding? Does that mean everything is not true? <head explodes>
- mikepk
Everything I've stated in this thread is disinformation. :) (Actually, it could be.)
- Sean McBride
Best thing I've heard all day: "We're in the final 100 hours of the Bush administration."
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Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking - http://www.goodreads.com/review...
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Big Bang Theory panel at Comic Con 2008 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Wish I could've been there...
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
I like and respect Senator McCain, his character, his service, and his accomplishments. But in the end, he's a 4:3 mind in a 16:9 world.
Hey Sarah Palin (with lyrics/subtitles) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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If you had "darn right" in the drinking game, you should probably call in sick to work tomorrow.
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Darn right you should, oh yeah.
- Andy Roth
Watching the Colts/Redskins game on NBC. NFL baby!!!
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huh? TOO SOON!!! I CAN HAZ MORE SUMMAR?
- Karim
This Twitter disappearing followers thing that happened today would be the final straw. That is, if all the other previous straws hadn't already been the last straws. Twitter, you are out of straws.
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Can I comment on this post in Twitter? Put a straw under baby...
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff, feel free.
- Dave Slusher
from twhirl
Not good sign. My wife just said that I am a fail whale. :-)
Tinu Abayomi-Paul, Lucretia Pruitt, Ruud van Wijngaarden and 62 other people liked this
LOL. Tell her that you're "down for maintenance" and you should "be back in about an hour" :)
- Bruno Pedro
the truth hurts ..wives and g/f say it as it sez..no fluff !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
what is worse, being a "fail" or a "whale"? :D
- Naor Mark
Perhaps you could tell her that the VCs have written a check and a crack engineering team is heading onsite as we speak...
- Mark Dykeman
ha..your wife's gotta sense of humour! :)
- Zee.
much better than what my wife calls me ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
my wife just call me a whale. ;-)
- Alex Williams
my wife just called me a beast - maybe because I'm eating away my hang over.
- Don Martelli
from twhirl
hey I thought you said you were starting to work out! :-)
- Christine Cavalier
I love that comment by your wife - very webby techie! cool! Ok so what did you do to earn that illustrious title of "fail whale"?!! ha, ha!
- Susan Beebe
she saw me Twittering and was joking around.
- Robert Scoble
www.nikeplus.com ;)
- Alberto Otero García
Which is worse - the fail or the whale?
- Steve Rubel
She didn't @reply??
- Mona Nomura
haha!
- Thomas Hawk
Harsh ! :D
- Mo Kargas
yowzers, thank goodness my wife has no clue about twitter, i would be in trouble :)
- Chris Jones
from twhirl
Me and my wife were happy during 25 years! and then... we met. (dixit Sacha Guitry)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
"I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her!" (Rodney Dangerfield)
- Jim Bergman
Call me dumb, but what exactly is the definition of "fail whale"?
- Herschel
Ha! Did you lose a database?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Herschel: I guess you don't use Twitter, huh? I really wish you would do some homework by Googling a term you don't understand first. Nothing personal but I would rather teach a man to fish than give him a fish. Now that the mpral lesson is over the image that comes up when Twitter is down is a whale. The community now uses that as a metaphor for when anything is down.
- Robert Scoble
What is the opposite of a fail whale?
- Sean Oliver
Sean: FriendFeed :)
- Justin Korn
Robert: you are much cuter and cuddly than the Fail Whale
- Cathleen Rittereiser
+1 Justin... FF FTW!
- Susan Beebe
Well... I don't use Twitter, espcially since FF seems to be better and why would I invest any time on a service that now has a reputation in the industry as be a "fail whale"?
- Herschel
Jamie Lynn Spears, Radiohead, Halo Kid: TWIYT #5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Basketball almost meets face. haven't laughed that hard in a while.
- Percival
Wow. People weren't kidding. The iPhone 3G (with OOTB or restored firmware) is buggy as HELL. I pray fixes are coming.
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Yes indeed. I find the touchscreen isn't as responsive as gen one, even after a restore. Since the restore apps have been more stable though.
- Jonathon
I pray all the iPhones will end up in my back yard so I can skip them across the Atlantic Ocean.
- Charles Heflin
A killer app would be one that "audibly" counts out the skips for you.
- Cornelius Smith II
IS the screen on the 3G as bad as I have been hearing compared to gen 1?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
And you may find yourself in a crappy apartment with a fat ugly wife and you may ask yourself "Well How did I get here?"
mace liked this
Ping.FM working in FriendFeed now. Let's hope they don't get rate limited again! :)
Lyndon Washington, Outsanity, Dennis Jackson and 6 other people liked this
How long until it goes down again? I don't want to remove my twitter from friendfeed until it's more stable.
- Dennis Jackson
maybe FriendFeed figured out Pingers like to do it easy
- Outsanity
Worked nicely this time . . . over the weekend failed to update FF correctly.
- Lyndon Washington
Maryam says "stop screwing around with FriendFeed and come and feed yourself." Dinner is ready!
Swaroop, Holger Eilhard, Bryan Landers and 24 other people liked this
The dinner doesn't exist unless you show us via Qik.
- Louis Gray
I hope her message was via a Tweet. ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
No service will ever replace GutFeed.
- Vince DeGeorge
My wife hasn't said that yet, but that's mostly just because dinner isn't ready.
- Ryan Kuder
Louis: hmmm, no Qik of the meal, sorry. But it was yummy! Jeff: no, but she does SMS me sometimes when I don't listen. :-)
- Robert Scoble
there was spam?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
So the time elapsed between the first note and his first comment was 15 minutes. So Robert, did you gulp it down and ask her to do dishes? Were paper plates involved? :-)
- Louis Gray
He never said he wasn't using his iPhone under the table.
- Andrew Feinberg
Sounds like our dinner conversations - my wife has to pry the iphone away from me during dinner
- Jesse Stay
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