Har har.... I assume there is ZERO chance of this ever happening.
- Jay
@Jay - I suspect Paul wouldn't ask if he thought there was zero chance. Last time I remember Paul asking for something from Google to be open sourced it was their JS compiler. That took a while, but http://code.google.com/closure...
- Nick Lothian
@Jay: Remember that Paul's referring to (relatively) generic infrastructure here, not search ranking code. But I think Daniel's right that it would be a *lot* of work, since most Google infrastructure is not "productized" and easy to wrap up in a bow for public release. Like any company with a lot of infrastructure, there are a lot of interdependencies that would be difficult to untangle. I think it would probably be better to simply publish papers on how it works, as with GFS, BigTable, etc.
- Joel Webber
Boy, that would be a bold move Paul. Agreed that it would help out many though!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
How about just dumping the source to the web without all the dependencies, even if it doesn't even compile? If it looks useful enough there's a good chance someone would adopt it.
- Jim Norris
I suspect you're right about that, Jim. But Google would probably catch more crap about a "throwing it over the wall and letting it stagnate" open-sourcing than it's worth. But maybe I'm just down on it because Google catches crap no matter what these days...
- Joel Webber
It's hard to open source distributed algorithms -- there's no obvious public standard to use, and the reasonable choices (TCP sockets? MPI?) are nothing like Google's internal infrastructure. I think a paper would be more useful than source code, the way MapReduce papers lead to Hadoop. Paul, have you looked at Vowpal Wabbit (http://hunch.net/~vw/)? It has experimental support for cluster parallelism, and I hear good things about it.
- ⓞnor
Well, it doesn't have to be an either/or issue.
- Jim Norris
If the code is too hard to separate from the infrastructure, then maybe a compute service like EC2 that provides an application interface specifically for solving problems with SETI could be good for both the world and good for the Google.
- Bill Strathearn
@Bill: Now *that* sounds like a good idea to me, especially if accompanied by a paper describing the algorithms in use.
- Joel Webber
Although technically really interesting and usefully, I do think that Google will not open source or even give inside information about such a key differentiating technology in the hands of their competitors. But I agree that it would be really great for the world.
- yusuf arslan
The value of "differentiating technology" is not in novel algorithms, but in the thousands of places where implementations of these algorithms have been fixed and customized and tuned to solve the problem at hand -- which wouldn't have to be described in a whitepaper.
- Tudor Bosman
@Tudor Bosman: I do not agree that the competitive advantage is the knowledge of fine tuning and implementing the algorithms. The concept/design of Google's machine learning infrastructure is very important. Don't get me wrong, I do think that Google SHOULD open source this. But I think they WILL not because of business considerations.
- yusuf arslan
I think even just a paper would be very useful and fruitful.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Ruchira, do you have particular biological datasets in mind? Are they too large even for a single machine version of Vowpal Wabbit to comfortably cope with (say, several tens or hundreds of billions of labeled instances)?
- Simon
Simon, my comment was just general. Now that you mention it, I could use Vowpal Wabbit on some of my projects, which are not anywhere close to that big. Thanks for the tip!
- Ruchira S. Datta
I looked at at least two pages of every user who posted. I just started learning, so I bookmarked about 20 pages that I'll be coming back to. This was nice, thanks!
- Ryan Massie
I didnt really want to add everyone i know on friendfeed to my facebook, i like to keep them seperate as much as i can. but you know what, fuck it http://www.facebook.com/simon... add a note saying you;re from friendfeed if you add me, then i can group everyone up :)
- Simon Wicks
Thanks, Simon. I've not started going through these yet. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm only going to add the people i actually talk to on here. I have a lot less people on my follow list than you, so its a bit easier for me :)
- Simon Wicks
Remember, guys. According to FB, you're only allowed 5000 friends. Spend them wisely.
- James Myatt
As if we weren't before? Were they really that many people here who didn't also have a FB account, even if they didn't list it in their profile? I've been with FB since 2004
- LANjackal
Well, with this news it is pushing me to start using my real name for web services and to kill (or at least slowly stop using) the tomit persona that I have used for many years. Find me here... http://www.facebook.com/ronaldb...
- tomit
FF better figure out how not to destroy themselves (if possible) with this merger. Friendfeed in the FB interface will not work. I think FF really just f*cked themselves.
- Ethan
I'm on Facebook, but I don't have a name in my profile URL (yet; I'm still new...). But if you want it, it's http://www.facebook.com/profile... -- if you friend me, tell me you're from FF.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't freaking have one because I never wanted to sign up for Facebook. :P Now I find out that through no fault of my own I'm technically a Facebook user? GAH.
- Cheryl Jones
http://facebook.com/alex.covic - I will friend everybody - for those of you concerned with friend/family + privacy = you can create lists (just like ff-groups) to keep FF-users in a different corner;-).
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
I do not use it much LOL I just post to it from other sites so to fill up my friends stream, I do get messages and some status in text. Anyone who really wants to add me, use the facebook link on my profile. :o)
- David Gross
www.facebook.com/drodzand you won't see much since I got the privacy settings on max in Facebook. Just another reason why I think Facebook is completely different from friendfeed. I hope they keep friendfeed running because I use both services in diametrically diverse ways.
- David Rodriguez
http://www.facebook.com/kimbers... (I can remember if I commented on this already. I don't see "You" on the list, but I'm tired. So, hopefully, I didn't. If I did, oh well.
- Kimber Scott
Thanks Rob, I had forgotten my username for I always used my email address to login - I found there is a settings > username > change thing that lets you change your username once and then you get a facebook.com/username url!
- TrafficBug
I am thinking about just using my Public Page more. Keep my regular profile for family and coworker data. Follow me here if you want more of the type of posts I do here of Friendfeed. http://www.facebook.com/pages...
- tomit
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niczak -- I tweet about the following: Programming, databases, parenting, living & enjoying life, and involvement in lots of local activities here in Northern Nevada.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I have most of you (didn't have Valeria for some reason, but just added), mine is http://twitter.com/jungleg -- see you on the other side ;)
- Jorge Escobar
http://twitter.com/dennis_... (don't forget the underscore) What do I tweet about? Tech, fiction, art, music, politics, comics, and of course my fiction. Occasionally some Seattle or Bremerton related stuff. I also have TwitterFeed tweet my blogs, and I always tweet from Flickr.
- Dennis Jernberg
http://twitter.com/glenc but I have to warn you, I stopped following people on Twitter a while ago. I have about 300 subscription notices (unread) in my email.
- Glen Campbell, esq.
i post about film and television editing/post production, I'm a bit of a gadget nerd, and i like anything funny on the web. i love followers... http://twitter.com/toddzelin
- Todd Zelin
I'm sure you're all interesting but following 6,000 is my limit. ; )
- Liz
http://twitter.com/cgranier - I tweet about many things -usually tech-oriented, reply to everyone who @'s me, and have lately been posting a lot about #FreeMediaVE, bringing attention to the struggle against communism in Venezuela. Feel free to follow me. @ me for a quick follow back. No spammers please.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Thank you all. I hope at least some follow me back else I'll hit my follower limit soon. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://identi.ca/andyc Microblog about all sorts but mainly OMB and how much I dislike inferior legacy services. No names, no packdrill.
- Andy C
http://twitter.com/Felter i tweet about all, but i don't retweet my FF message. From twitter to FF only. if you follow me in FF, you can read my tweet.
- Felter Roberto
from twhirl
You know, you could have just started feeding in your tweets here and achieved the same, right? Or would that have been too subtle?
- Mr. Gunn
http://twitter.com/glitterpoet Don't mean to offend but it's usually not religious. Porn, drinking,dancing, music,makeup....I still do healing work. I just don't talk about it much anymore.
- Gabrielle V
My twitter stream is the typical... random thought bubbles, food porn pics, and shared items relating to technology, politics, and $$$. http://twitter.com/sean808080 is where you find me. Oh and I like unicorns and fairy dust.
- sean808080
@fossilhuntress or fossilmaitress (I kept getting my email cracked and getting locked out hence the duplicate); all content, linked to digg, delicious... mostly science, paleo and random banter...
- Fossil Huntress
http://twitter.com/wangyip - mostly stuff from FF (tech, startups, web apps, sometimes things about math, medicine, fitness) - I've followed a few here on tech stuff (Edit: Thanks Kol for the thread)
- Wang Yip
http://twitter.com/eoghann... - I post sci-fi news (tv, movies, books or comics I'm probably a fan of it), some tech stuff and the occasional round of venting.
- Eoghann Irving
Es una verdad a medias, fíjate que cuando los militares de dictaduras mataron, hicieron desparecer una generación de mujeres y hombres dispuestos a vivir con ideales, familias de escritores, creativos, poetas, filósofos, estudiantes... gente que trabajaba para una mayor igualdad social... Y con esas muertes, se asustó a las generaciones que le siguieron. Muchos países que se consideran...
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- Céu de Buarque
شهادت پایان نیست. آغاز است، تولدی دیگر است در جهانی فراتر از آنکه عقل زمینی به ساحت قدس آن راه یابد. تولد ستارهای است که پرتو نورش عرصه زمان را در مینوردد و زمین را به رب الارباب اشراق میبخشد.
شهید منتظر مرگ نمیماند، این اوست که مرگ را برمیگزیند. شهید پیش از آنکه مرگ ناخواسته به سراغ او بیاید، به اختیار خویش میمیرد و لذت زیستن را نیز هم او مییابد. نه آن کس که دغدغه مرگ حتی آنی بر خود وانمیگذاردش و خود را به ریسمان پوسیده غفلت میآویزد، تا از دغدغه مرگ برهد.
- روح الله مهدوی
حالا هی بشینین برا هم هندونه بترکونین ها
- Mycaptain
چه کااااااااریه؟ نوشابه خانواده وا میکنیم خو
- روح الله مهدوی
فطرس جان بهش گیر نده خب عاشقه داداشم یککم! دست خودش نیست خو
- روح الله مهدوی
شهید یک ابزار است ... نردبانی برای رسیدن به اهداف ما ...شهید نیز باید مانند همه چیز در اختیار رسیدن ما باشد به اهدافمان ..انگاه که از مسیر ما کمی مایل شد ، خودش را مانند باکری ها تخطئه می کنیم و خانواده اش را مانند همت و باز باکری و خیل عظیم خانواده های شهدا می توانیم به عوامل بیگانه ربط دهیم ... خون شهدا وسیله ای برای بخشیدن هیجان به جمع های نوجوانان بسیجی برای تهییج احساسات انها ......
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- Omid Mohaddes
شهدا همه اصحاب اخر الزماني سيد الشهدا عليه السلام هستند و پيام آنها عشق و اطاعت است و وفاداري... سید شهیدان اهل قلم
- روح الله مهدوی
در گمنامي مشترکيم اي شهيد گمنام نام گرفته؛تو پلاکت را گم کرده اي و من هويتم را.
- روح الله مهدوی
و تو را چه نياز به پلاك است؟خدا همه را خوب ميشناسد... ما تو را گم كرده ايم...تو كه پيدايي...راستي روزي ات نزد خدا امروز چه بود؟ مرا ديدي هراسان؟مي دويدم در خيابان؟ پي دين؟ نه ... نه... من پي چيزي مي گردم كه نيست
- روح الله مهدوی
فطرسم اس ام اس زده بود میگفت اشتباهی گرفتن قربونیش کردن
- آرمان فاطمی
راز دل را نتوانم به کسی بگشایم ... که در این دیر مغان راز نگهداری نیست
- روح الله مهدوی
آنهایی که به خامنه ای قاتل میگویند مولا ببینند این جوانان پاکدل مولا هستند یا آن قاتل جانی ؟ این زیبا رویان فرشته صفت نورباران میکنند با چهره هایشان کدامین جنایت کاری حکم بر نبود اینان داد؟ روح شان شاد و راه شان پاینده باد.
- mahdie mouood
I made it! Most influential British Twitter users revealed - Telegraph (UPDATE: wow - thanks so so much guys. Can't believe the love i have on here.) - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...
well done, Zee! Glad you're ahead of Peter Andre....:)
- WorldofHiglet
Hi, Zee ! je vais de ce pas jeter un coup d'oeil chez les Britons ;-)
- Desirade
zee - gifted followers = default list/suggested user list - when a media outlet reports on "x account has y followers" it's almost like there needs to be a notation that they were given the followers as a freebie.
- Allen Stern
Strange enough, the link to the PM's wife's Twitter page isn't direct; it's <http://go.telegraph.co.uk/...>...is this done to possibly track the number of clicks or something? All the other Twitter accounts listed are direct links
- Itachi
i thought that everyone has agreed to used "listed" as the new 'count that matters' -- there's more of a meaning to listing someone and there never was a suggested list... however... the more followers you have the more chances to be listed there are ( i guess )
- Chris Heath
Heh, nvm, seems it was a bug on my end. The link does take you to her Twitter page, but while I was mousing over the links I saw the go.telegraph.co.uk link and was a little perplexed why they had that there. It's gone now after a refresh
- Itachi
wow - thanks so so much guys. Can't believe the love i have on here.
- Zee.
Mazel tov, Zee! You're one of my tech favorites on here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Big Congrats Zee ,, all your HArdwork is paying off
- johnpiercy
Now don't let it go to your head and start thinking that services need to bend the way they function to your will and don't start ripping services when they can't perform to insane, unrealistic, and just plane silly standards. "WTF GReader's interface starts breaking down and failing when ever I try to display 1 million individual RSS feeds on 15 inch screen at one time, this is entirely unusable!"
- Matthew DeVries
I see Twitter being down, for many folks, like a power outage. Everyone stops... rubs their eyes, looks around, and eventually picks up a book. :)
- Louis Gray
Pretty much. I was polling people about something, but I guess I could go... uh...
- Jolie O'Dell
I am mainly curious to see if Google/Feedburner will automatically tweet my new blog post now. That's why I even found out, because I checked.
- Louis Gray
Yes, Atul. (See the Google Reader share on my feed)
- Louis Gray
Louis - my bad. Was lazy not to scroll down to the bottom of the screen :)
- Atul Arora
...and I'm sure FriendFeed, Facebook, and Google Reader are seeing increased traffic just right now.
- Claudio Sennhauser
I got an error from DISQUS when I posted to your blog
- Ankush Narula
Totally. Where else we gonna go? FriendFeed is, in that sense and to some people, like Twitter's less hot but totally more willing friend. Dang.
- Jolie O'Dell
Ankush, I got your comment, successfully.
- Louis Gray
Tech Crunch: "Update III: It is suggested that if you use the same password on your Twitter account with other accounts, now would be a good time to change your password on those other accounts. Because of the scale of this hack, it can only be assumed right now that Twitter has been completely compromised."
- David Damore
Louis, yes, it's practically required now - MaryB voted on it!
- Micah Wittman
Somehow, I just got a new Twitter follower 1 minute ago. :)
- Louis Gray
Well not completely. For my main use of Friendfeed, it's not. I use FF to update Twitter accounts (several) from Yahoo Pipes, and it stopped working almost 24 hours ago.
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
Here's all the conversations on FriendFeed: http://friendfeed.com/search... (all items with five or more comments). Just for anyone who is looking for a conversation. Me? I'm looking to get smarter. I wish there were a filter for smart conversations because most of these are, while entertaining, not making me smarter about anything.
While I see what you're lamenting, I haven't seen much better on twitter - especially since the format reflects the idea of shouting into the void 160 at a time.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
so.... not in English= not smart? Maybe you could learn some of the languages. You'd be smarter then!
- Jim in Real Time
Jeremy: I used to think that too, but then I unfollowed everyone and changed my strategy. My lists are very good now for getting smarter.
- Robert Scoble
Jim: not in English = not making ME smarter unless I translate and, even then, finding good conversations is very difficult. Most of the conversations on FriendFeed are pablum, sorry. For instance, the item underneath this one on my screen reads "Just smashed a finger between a pair of 45 pound plates." OK.
- Robert Scoble
Clearly your definition of 'good conversation' needs revision. If you think that a conversation cannot be 'good' unless it makes you smarter than you have a worldview that's much too small. Yes, that's RAPatton with the smashed finger. If you knew anything about Robert then you might find that post to be significant. You might learn something about Robert and the many, many physical trials he's had to endure in his life.
- Jim in Real Time
Smart is not in what information you get, who you talk to. Smart is in how you use the information you get,
- Brian Sullivan
Let us not pretend that twitter is not full of inanities. It's not format, it's users. If you want conversations, start some.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Robert, thank you for sharing that information about smashing up one's fingers. Just the meme presenting itself into my conscientiousness so that it may be drawn up in some future potential accident with my hands may indeed help me by association to avoid it! :) It's not all useless.
- Melanie Reed
Jim: I don't want to talk about everything in the world that's happening to everyone. Maybe you want to talk about Tiger Woods and his problems or how someone smashed their fingers, but I don't. I'm looking for something smarter.
- Robert Scoble
Your request appears to be best handled by Google Wave these days since it is easy to lose threads in most other tools.
- Roney Smith
No Robert you are looking for something Techier which coincidentally does not equal smarter.. Different yes, smarter no. You are starting to act like that annoying person who keeps going to parties just to complain about everything. If you don't want to be here don't be here. I'm getting tired of your weekly friendfeed is dead bash on friendfeed thread.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
robert, what someone... (perhaps louis gray?)... could make is a lazy feed for friendfeed-style conversations. what do you think?
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Google Wave is 100x more noisy and less useful than FriendFeed ever was.
- Robert Scoble
If you read that it's more focused and makes you smarter. Here? I don't find I'm getting smarter. I find I'm spending time having fun, maybe, but not getting smarter.
- Robert Scoble
Robert -- sometimes I think you are just full of it. Have you ever actually used Google Wave?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: yes. I have hundreds of conversations open in Wave and it totally sucks. If you get value out of it you must either have only a very small group of people you collaborate with (I don't have that luxury) or you must be a better person than I am.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you could not have missed my point more than you did. I'm done though... sorry. I like you but you just do not get it.
- Jim in Real Time
MIT Courseware is a good place to go to get smarter Robert... http://ocw.mit.edu/ --- since when has FF been a place to go to get smarter... twitter sure isn't doing that either is it?
- Chris Heath
Wave is not for conversations it is for collaboration -- so what you are saying is the way you use it it sucks -- maybe because you don't know how to use it?
- Brian Sullivan
Pffft. Not only do most conversations on here or Twitter not make you smarter, some actually cost you money: "Scoble is an egotistical fatso."
- WorldofHiglet
Brian: even if you know how to use it it becomes noisy very quickly and you can't easily get back to the value that someone left in a long thread. OK, I guess from your message that you only have five people in your Wave. Then it's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Well, some of the stories on that list will probably help expand one's way of thinking... but Kim Kardashian and bed picnics? Knitting Icelanders? Seems there's a relative amount of fluff on that list as well, from the brief glance I gave it. Expand your brain all you want, Robert, it's an excellent idea. But don't discount the play factor in learning... which appears to be kind of what...
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- Bette Cooper
WorldofHiglet: I just sent my $100 to the Food Bank. Was worth every penny.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, if your looking to get smarter then get off the internet and go read a book. Or stay on the internet and go to websites that provided educational material. I'm so sorry that we don't provide you with the knowledge that you are seeking....
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Bette: there's always fluff. But now I don't need to dig through fluff on top of fluff. :-) Here I'm faced with both the fluff (and, sorry, compare the link above to the world news link and you'll see there's more fluff here) but here I need to deal with the conversation fluff too.
- Robert Scoble
When my brother decides to step in the poo, he certainly splashes it all over.
- Alex Scoble
Jim: whatever. You obviously get value out of this kinds of conversation. I don't.
- Robert Scoble
Alex: I love giving people here what they want: a conversation. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: I read books too (even have a Kindle so I can buy most anybook and read it immediately), but they make me smart about something that happened 12 months ago (or longer).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, this isn't the kind of conversation that most of us are looking for. We are looking for fun or meaningful conversation. This here, is accomplishing anything more then wasting time.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Ok Robert I feel I need a disclaimer here... I was one of the Scobleites that followed you here, I stayed around though since I found it interesting. But yes you gathered a list on world media, that list though is not you or your conversations.... But look at your twitter feed, your conversations are 90%+ tech.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
So where's the guy who wondered where all the conversations have gone? Look at this one... the fine art of avoiding heavy objects, and how to fling poo in a civilized manner. Now that's a conversation! :D
- Bette Cooper
Is this your monthly Friendfeed slam? If so, thanks, see you in January.
- Kenton
Looking to get smarter, or looking to feel superior? I'm allergic to condescension and this post almost killed me :P
- LAST DAY OF WORK
Lo: the thing is the traffic here has NOT been going up and I'm trying to communicate why. Most people look at FriendFeed and don't see the conversations. Then, if they do find the conversations they see a bunch of noise. FriendFeed is fun for my brother, but not for people like me who are looking for something more specific.
- Robert Scoble
Rasmus: my output is mostly tech, because that's mostly what I want to talk about, yes. But my inbound is much wider than that.
- Robert Scoble
I think the specificity is really where it is at. FF is many things. Specific ain't it.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Good luck finding what you are looking for on Twitter.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: I already found it on Twitter. It's easy with lists.
- Robert Scoble
So Robert, in order for some of us to actually learn something; What do you, or any of us, gain by you coming here periodically and posting what is wrong with Friendfeed and the community? It seems to me that if you are looking for intelligent conversation you wouldn't just troll for comments, you'd actually start something worthwhile.
- Kenton
Kenton: it's fun. Oh, so you are admitting that some conversations are more fun for you than others? EXACTLY MY POINT!
- Robert Scoble
And I keep coming here, seeing the noise, and it makes me grumpy. Just like I'm making YOU grumpy! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Why does it make you grumpy? Because you see it as noise and others don't?
- Bette Cooper
Bette: yes. I see noise and not much signal. Makes me grumpy. But, worse, it explains why traffic numbers here have gone down.
- Robert Scoble
Kenton: and, as for starting something, I've already done that: my own filtered feed: http://twitter.com/scoblei... -- I wish I could do something like this here, but FriendFeed never got to it.
- Robert Scoble
TRAFFIC has not gone down! Traffic has gone up! Us American folks don't make a website! The people of the world make a website!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
The reason it makes me grumpy is that I don't appreciate people who drive by and fling insults and tell us all that we're doing something wrong. The community here on Friendfeed works for the people who want it to work. If you're only doing it so you can have fun, have it at someone else's expense. Oh, here's a list of all the conversations (5 tweets or more) on Twitter. Oh, wait, how do I do that? How about Facebook? Oh, hmmm, can't do that there either.
- Kenton
Mathew: that doesn't match the statements I've seen from traffic sites. Would love to see URLs proving traffic has gone up.
- Robert Scoble
Isn't becoming better a nobler goal than being smarter? Smarter as a goal is solipsistic. Better as a goal encourages well roundedness and non means oriented connections with other people.
- Todd Hoff
Kenton: it takes two people to have a conversation. If you don't like the insults, don't pay attention to them!
- Robert Scoble
hmmm one man's turd is another mans gold... As I said before why do you come here if you don't like it and it makes you grumpy. To me that sounds quite masochistic... How are we to gauge your conversations? Conversation by definition takes two.. So what comes in through your lists can't exactly be said to be conversations you are taking part of. Your feed on the other hand can...
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Todd: that's cool, but I'm already listening to 1,300 on Facebook, 16,000 on Twitter, and something like 15,000 here. How many more voices do I need to listen to before I become "better?" Me? I'm ready to narrow my focus to people who are actually teaching me something and making my life more interesting.
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: Alexa is well known to be very inaccurate. Quantcast is the one that most people use as real numbers.
- Robert Scoble
As noted earlier, also seems language is proximate fundamental limiting factor. Really need Ubiquity add-on or some similar magic to do on the fly translation, (think Aunt Rosy Wavebot style). Seems next major limiting factor on expanding knowledge and integration of global cognition grid is language. This is fundamentally doable with today's tools, but nobody seems focused on making it happen in a way that we can all start teaching the GCG how to translate more accurately, understand slang, etc.
- michael silverton
Well, when I goto Quantcast and see "rough estimate" that doesn't work for me. I want to see something that looks solid. But, whatever, I'm done. No one is going to satisfy you with whatever they bring to you.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Jeremy: truth is, I do like the site, but haven't liked it as much lately because everytime I come here I see noise, even on the lists I hand made.
- Robert Scoble
No, you haven't found it on Twitter because it's not possible to have conversations on Twitter. And I doubt it will ever be possible. Twitter is like the modern equivalent of beepers. There's nothing there. Seriously.
- Alex Scoble
Mathew: 20% of traffic comes from Turkey. I could care less about traffic there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Funny thing is I like what you do on twitter, I even follow most of your lists on there, but the persona showing up here seems so very different.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Alex: really? I have conversations all the time on Twitter. I post a URL to my blog and on my blog I have Disqus, which lets me have conversations. Or, we link here, like we do for Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
"How many more voices do I need to listen to before I become "better?" - is better defined by information absorbed or actions of quality taken?
- Todd Hoff
I use FriendFeed to start smart conversations - I don't need to find ones to join, but there are those, too. I post them to Twitter, then continue them over here.
- Jesse Stay
You may careless about the traffic there. But those who own and run Friendfeed care about ALLLLLLLLLLL traffic, not just US based traffic.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Alex, Twitter can be the start of the conversation.
- Paul Harvey
Todd: Better is hard to define. Some people think better is having Turkish conversations. I don't.
- Robert Scoble
I call it weeding the wheat from the chaff, Robert. FF is an excellent place for relaxing, for finding stimulating tidbits that lead to other things... and for getting a good laugh after a hard day. Oh... and for taking your name in vain... you make it far too easy. :-p Dude, you get what you give. The way it works. You want good stuff, give it. You want laughs, don't ever change....
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- Bette Cooper
Mathew: the people who own and run FriendFeed don't care about FriendFeed. They run a little site named Facebook. You might have heard of it.
- Robert Scoble
I've had some great conversations with David Recordon, Chris Messina, Dewitt Clinton, Cristo, Otto, Stephen Mack, Atul, Steve Gillmor, and more and I don't have to worry about losing the organization of the conversation over here. There's still nothing better, but it's your responsibility to make those conversations happen. I can't do what I can here over on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
By definition you aren't having conversations on Twitter. I get way more participation here than I ever will on Twitter even though I'm sending the same stuff there. Twitter just sucks. There's no way for you to say that it doesn't. It's popular, but that in no way shape or form makes it a viable alternative to friendfeed.
- Alex Scoble
You may think that but I don't. And unless you can show be proof to support your statement then I'm not changing my mind. Because if they didn't care about Friendfeed it all it wouldn't be here.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Jesse: true. That's why I link to the Gillmor Gang over on Twitter (I link here).
- Robert Scoble
Alex: you're just as delusional as me. It's a Scoble trait! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Most normal people would say we're both wrong and they point to Facebook as proof.
- Robert Scoble
It's incredibly hard to talk intelligently in 140 characters, and even harder when the conversation isn't organized.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: when I need more than 140 characters I blog and post a URL. It works. :-)
- Robert Scoble
You know what, I'm hiding this post. I'm done, because all it is doing is angering me and wasting my time.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I have intelligent conversations on Facebook as well - see a few of the conversations (not near as many as here) over at http://facebook.com/stay
- Jesse Stay
Mathew: now you know why I bitch. I come here, see all sorts of noise and it makes me angry so I lash out.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, but your blog doesn't thread underneath the Tweet like my responses do here. If I need anything longer than this, then yes, I blog.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Facebook is definitely becoming more interesting.
- Robert Scoble
If we have to supplement a program to crutch its handicaps, then it is time to stop using the broken program.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Jeremy: I tried for 18 months to get everyone to use FriendFeed. I failed and will continue to do so because most people don't want to have conversations with people they don't know. That's the secret sauce on Facebook. You know everyone you talk with (mostly).
- Robert Scoble
Twitter has its place as well - don't get me wrong, and there are many smart people there to learn from, but as far as continuing that conversation, I can have much more intelligent conversation here than I can there. I wish more people used a combination of the two, or at least turned on e-mails so they get responses to their FriendFeed shares.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: email bacn is horrid. I turn off email notification from all social sites.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds to me like you need to prune your feed again Robert so you only get the stuff you like, in the language you like from the countries you like.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
"Better is hard to define" - Better in this context is your personal goals, that is being smarter, not the thread language choices :-)
- Todd Hoff
maybe FF'ers are a bunch of know-it-all type of people.,.... therefore they need not get smarter ;)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Gotta run, gang. Keep up the great work. I'm trying to make this Mozilla Raindrop thing work http://mozillalabs.com/raindro... -- YAARF? (Yet Another Aspiring Relevance Filter) Feedly's doing great, but needs Open Calais rockin' and aforementioned realtime translation. ;-) Onward!
- michael silverton
Robert, FriendFeed replies aren't bacon - it's the only way I can stay organized.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I would get too many of them to make them at all useful.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, understood, but most people wouldn't, and should keep it enabled. Or find some way to know when people are responding to their posts.
- Jesse Stay
Anyway, I just checked out the link here again that I started this whole conversation out with and, boy, is it exciting! Not. Oh well, see ya again soon for more self loathing.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, sounds like you need to set up some lists ;-) The guys I named are a good start.
- Jesse Stay
The other thing that doesn't make sense with this conversation is you couldn't even do the search you did on Twitter. What would Twitter return if you could track responses to original Tweets that are greater than 5?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: one of the major reasons I keep coming back here is for the search. Twitter is rebuilding its search from scratch, so it'll be interesting to watch in 2010 (so is Facebook, btw).
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: I spent hundreds of hours organizing my lists here on FriendFeed. I find all I need to do is track you because you get involved in almost every interesting tech conversation here.
- Robert Scoble
They'll need to implement threaded conversations for a search like that to work. I'm listening though.
- Jesse Stay
Well thanks Robert - I use it as a tool. I wouldn't be using it if I didn't find it productive, which is why I get involved in interesting conversations. You know all this stuff better than I though so I know I don't need to convince you.
- Jesse Stay
Worried about getting smarter? Read a book. *says the Librarian, in a "the more you know" voice ;)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Archangel: books are nice for knowledge that's 12 months old (or older). It takes that long to publish the damn things.
- Robert Scoble
true. but it's a good in-depth supplement to the quick-hits of 140-character discussions. Plus, political theory - what's currently on the nightstand - isnt exactly on an expiration date (not often at least). ;)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
My eyes sorta glazed over about half way down this thread, sorry... but I just wanted to correct something mentioned above about "traffic" being up. Alexa says "Reach" is up but "Pageviews" are down about 20% since August http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... And that's global stats. US only is a whole 'nother conversation. Whether "traffic" is up or down depends on how you define traffic... and what you're trying to prove.
- Ken Sheppardson
With each conversation, I learn a bit more about those to whom I am subscribed and I hope they learn a little something about me. I am quite happy with that.
- Michael W. May
There are three major aspects of any social network: Relevancy, Technology and Community. FriendFeed has the best technology, period. The community is also excellent. The difference here is that it has changed from 12 months ago or 24 months ago. When I visit FriendFeed, I am not looking for the deep technical conversations we used to have because the community more accurately reflects...
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- Louis Gray
For Robert, who is a good guy even though at times he can be misunderstood or frustrating, this change in community has decreased the site's relevancy. Couple that with an unclear future, and he is doing what is right for him. I could make some quip about how Robert needs to get smarter more than most of us, but I won't. :)
- Louis Gray
Louis, has the community changed or has just a section left? I see people from 18 months ago and my feed hasn't changed much in that time.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, without invalidating the above, I would suggest that you are part of the "new-ish" community that joined after FriendFeed's initial 6+ months. Yes, many of the people Robert and I consider peers and friends who used to engage in the deeper tech talk here have left, but other great folks like you made the place a whole lot of fun. You just have to see what I like or comment on to...
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- Louis Gray
So it has become a little bit more social media than social media...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Yes Louis we all get that... What we don't get is why he keeps returning just to lay a brown one every two, three weeks. If he doesn't like it here, he doesn't have to say so again and again. He can just mosey along and think back on the good times. Being the "biggest fanboy" does not give you the right to then come back and be annoying after leaving. We all heard him the first time, if not second or third..
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Rasmus, I am explaining the behavior, not endorsing it. :)
- Louis Gray
I don't understand why you think that social networking sites that encourage people to post all the small mundane things in their life is the place to go to find an abundance of intelligent tech discussions. I would think a busy forum whose focus is on tech, inhabited by intelligent people, would be a better place to find what you are looking for. For me that happens to be the forum at...
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- April Russo (app103)
Good recommendation, April - thanks!
- WorldofHiglet
michael silverton (way up this thread ^ ), you mentioned on-the-fly translation tools? - I created them (not in Ubiquity, but Greasemonkey/Greasekit): http://translatorize.com - implemented for Friendfeed, Facebook, Twitter and Identi.ca
- Micah Wittman
Back when Robert was 'getting value' out of FF, he mentioned it (the first implementation was for Friendfeed): http://friendfeed.com/fftrans... .... hey, the Scobleizer blog post link is dead! So by my count: Friendfeed *not* dead, blog post dead (Seriously, I looked in the archives, Robert, but I don't see it? Did some stuff get lost when the site was hacked months back?)
- Micah Wittman
Oh, you're talking about one of the ones where he said it wasn't dying. A lot of that stuff got deleted when he was hacked, which is probably the case for that one.
- Jesse Stay
FriendFeed has evolved, just like every other site out there. Perhaps at one time, it was a forum for techies. Now, not so much. You and those techies went somewhere else to fill that info void. Meanwhile, others joined FF for the social interaction. Not understanding why you keep coming back here to stir the pot. It's not for you any more. That's fine. Let it go. There are discussions here; they just aren't topics in which you're interested. I read lots of spirited political discussions. >>>
- rowlikeagirl
As for the bigger picture, I'm seeing FF turn into another aggregation site. Not a criticism, just an observation. ((((returns to watching Turkish animated GIFs)))
- rowlikeagirl
FF for me, is a way to get away from "learning" yet another "thing"...to learn even one thing takes a lifetime...the intellectuals need to lighten up maybe and have a bit of fun? if not, FF is not for them...
- sally stokhamer
Robert , indeed,you shouldn't be in need to look smarter.I ,and many of your followers think you are smart.Here's what you read : @scoblemedia/world-news-brands .Some more can be added to this list.But your time will not be enough.Keep up the good work please...Thank You,and Best Wishes...
- Dedegi
I just ate a mango. The problem of infinitely multiplying narcissistic minutiae in social media. The solution: ultra-smart news filters and recommender systems. (And a big wave to Akiva Moskovitz, my biggest fan on Friendfeed.)
- Sean McBride
News recommender systems: what are the most important remarks made by the most important people on the topics I most care about? Sort them by priority, please. One wishes that Friendfeed had taken an interest in this technology but, alas, no.
- Sean McBride
Public conversations of every conceivable variety should be able to coexist comfortably in social media space, without any conversation impinging on any other conversation. What we need are the software tools to discover, prioritize and manage those conversations that are most interesting to each of us individually. There is really not much point in complaining about conversations that are not interesting -- simply don't pay attention to them.
- Sean McBride
" I wish there were a filter for smart conversations because most of these are, while entertaining, not making me smarter about anything" ~ http://news.ycombinator.com
- Peter Renshaw
Louis is always awake. Allen is always asleep. Hmmm...
- Jesse Stay
Hm. Now Jesse, can you please go code those SocialToo improvements I requested?
- Louis Gray
jesse - dont you have some people to auto-block ?
- Allen Stern
im gonna get "cc.cc" for my shortener
- Allen Stern
Allen, Louis is SocialToo-proof. I can't auto-block him - I keep trying.
- Jesse Stay
for the record, I was not talking about Louis, Jesse you should know that Louis is unblockable and/or unbannable. This is part of the geneva conventions.
- Allen Stern
I know some people that have blocked Louis :-)
- Jesse Stay
surely no-one would block the king of social media pop (KOSMP).
- Thomas Power
سلام پارسایی... خوبی؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ :( یه عکس ازش بذارید، الان دیگه باید کلی بزرگ شده باشه
- آرامش مطلوب
بزرگ که شده، آره... خیلی-خیلی با مزه شده... البته موهاش رو زدم ناجور شده سر و کله اش :دی ... چند روز دیگه می ذارم حالا :) راستی، من از طرفش علیک سلام می گم به خاله آرامش
- سیدعلیسنائی
:) هنوزهم وقتی اون عکسشو تو سیستمم میبینم کیف میکنم... بوس از طرف خاله واسه پارسایی، خدا حفظش کنه
- آرامش مطلوب
فیلم سون (هفت) رو که دیدی حتمن؟ یا باشگاه مشت زنی. یا بنجمین باتن. هر سه با بازی برد پیت. همینطور زودیاک و بازی (با بازی شان پن و مایکل داگلس) کارگردان بسیار قوی ه مصطفا جان
- آریـوبرزن
Alright, for some reason this reminds me of the phone call I had with my mother Sunday, when we both started talking in really crappy Sean Connery accents. Fabuloush!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
If it's a school picture, you KNOW it's Olan Mills! At least, that's the way it was around here. Those folks had a lock on the uncomfortably posed photo market.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
uncomfortable pose? looks pretty comfortable to me lol :P
- Rob Sellen :o)
Still great, but I think the sound from the YouTube version Rachel posted (http://friendfeed.com/kitteh...) really adds a lot... (Why am I analyzing and comparing cuteness of kitten animation formats?)
- Stephen Mack
That annoying voice isn't there but OMG how cute is that kitty? hahahhaha
- Mona Nomura
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- Renchin(Reina)
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
علی حجوانی تو روحت، ای واسه چه موقعیه؟ :)))
- Mehran
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
بابا این قدش کوتاه بود، روی پله بالاتر بودم من، ای بابا....
- خیزران kheyzaran
نامردا دی چه وردی خوندی اینترنت یه خط در میون شده :دی @سیدعلیسنائی
- Lord hozeh
خیزران! ای بابا ما رو تو یه حساب دیگه داشتیم بابا
- diis
چه بدبیاری بزرگی و چه ننگی و چقدر ما سعادت مند هستیم که با دغلهای روزگار و فراری از جبهه های نبرد مواجه نمیشویم. هم او که به بهانه حفظ سنگر انجمن اسلامی تا سال 1365 حتی تا میدان راه اهن هم نرفته بود و جنگش در دانشگاه و در مقابل رزمندگان بسیجی اسلام بود. راستی از ایشان در مورد هاله نور و چگونگی غنی سازی دختر 16 ساله در زیر زمین پرسیدید؟ و به او گوشزد کردید که اگر خالی بندی و سیاه کاری میکند طوری کند که جا داشته باشد؟
- بسیجی
خواهشا برادر نجمی و یا برادران دیگر که این کامنت را میخوانند - باعرض معذرت از اینکه در کامنت اینجا از شما مسئله را جویا میشوم . ظاهرا شما با برادران فارس و دیگر خبرنگاران جناح الف نون در ارتباط هستید میشه اطلاعاتی در زمینه این آقای دکتر رامین پوراندرزجانی بدهید و یا به مسئولین ذی ربط بگوئید که پاسخی بدهند. من دوست ندارم هر خبری را که میخوانم قبول کنم ولی سکوت مسئولین ذیربط دارد مسئله ساز میشود و دوباره به نظر می آید که ریگی در کفش مسئولین هست که در پاسخگوئی اینقدر تعلل میکنند
- بسیجی
اگر چه من شدیدا مخالف نظرات جناح الف نون هستم ولی تعلل و جوابهای کدر در راستای آرام کردن اوضاع و کم کردن تشویش نیست. شما را به روح حضرت امام اقلا در این مورد جوسازی نکنید و شفاف مسئله را دنبال کنید. میگویند که آقای اندرزجانی دکتر کهریزک بوده و به صورت مشکوکی فوت کرده است. علت مرگ ایستادن ناگهانی قلب او در خواب گفته شده است. آیا این صحیح است؟
- بسیجی
خیزران جان - یعنی شما جلوی خاتمی هم دنبال پله میگشتی و دولا سه لا میشدی؟ حالا که از اسب قدرت پائین اومدند هم همینطور؟ یا فقط قدرت احترام میاره و بس؟ البته شوخی میکنم. میدونم قصدی نداشتی و نداری. ولی من شخصا از اینکه مردم فقط به صرف اینکه یکی پشت میز میره برده اش میشن رو دوست ندارم. ایکاش ما این یک نکته رو از خارجیها یاد میگرفتیم و اینقدر پاچه خواری به نمایش نمیگذاشتیم.
- بسیجی
من پاچه خواری نکردم، فقط احترام گذاشتم، قرار بود سرش رو گرم کن تا رییس برسه، همین. من توی دیدار با رهبری هم خم نشدم، معانقه کردم با ایشون که قدم نرسید به صورتش :))
- خیزران kheyzaran
احسنت - من هم گفتم قصد شوخی بود و مطمئن هستم که شما همینطور که میگوئید عمل میکنید. البته خواستم از این فرصت برای بعض دیگرانی که چنین نیستند کلامی پرت کرده باشم. قصد جسارت ندارم. باور کن این قضیه سبز و سرخ ندارد. خیلی از مردمان ما و مقامات ما چنین هستند. شما باید فیلم دیدار آقای مصباح با آقای خامنه ای را ببینید و یا میرحسین و امام را. اینکارها با مرام مولایمان سازگار نیست و از میراث پارسی ماست.
- بسیجی
مطمئن هستم که روایت آنچه مولا امیرالمومنان به ایرانیان انبار گفته است را شنیده اید که آنها را از دویدن پشت سر اسب ایشان منع کرد. مطمئن هستم که عاشق مرام مولا هستید و رهرو او. بنابراین اگر جسارتی کرده ام مرا عفو کن.
- بسیجی
"A US model measuring 205cm is set to feature on the cover of Australian men's magazine Zoo Weekly. The model — Eve — appears on the cover of the magazine's current issue alongside a 162cm-tall Australian model. "No other magazine has put a woman who's nearly 7ft tall on the cover," editor Paul Merrill said. "We had ... her bikini specially made, but it was worth it.""
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
جاجی نجمی جان، با عرض معذرت، شما متاسفانه چشم کورت رو بستی. وگرنه اگر اون فیلمی که برات گذاشته بودم و دیدی، و خودت رو حالا زدی به خریت و ندیدن، درست نگاه کنی می فهمی کی اول حمله رو شروع کرد. اما نمی خوای ببینی، برای اینکه مغرضی، بی نهایت آدم جاکشی هستی حاجی جان. حالا خودت و هر کسی که دوست داره من رو بلاک کنه. یک ریال برام ارزش نداره دیدن فیدهای آدم جاکشی مثل شما. موفق باشی.
- هومان
الان از این عکسا معلومه که کی اول حمله رو شروع کرده؟ در ضمن شما با چه فیلترشکنی میایید فرندفید ؟ :دی
- Javid★
هومان جا ییهویی چرا پوسته روشنفکری رو می دری برادر این عکس ها فیلم هم داره تو فیلم هام معلومه مشکل از کجاست ضمن اینکه اگر بسیح شروع کننده است این همه قدرت دفاعی و تیر و تقه رو از کجا آوردن به اصطلاح معترضین؟
- Veto
شما الان به درجه اي رسيده ايد كه متاسفانه روز را هم شب ميبينيد
- آريا
روزی سردسته سگها یعنی خامنه ای رو تو میدان آزادی دار می زنیم فردا روشن است
- میر امید موسوی
آقای ایرانی تشریف ببرین توالت عمومی بالاترین اینجا جای شما نیست
- Veto
به Veto : داداش اینجا مال حضرتعالیه؟ کی خریدیش؟ آخه برادر اینجا اگه امکانات حذف لینک/فید رو داشت که الان می گفتی توالت عمومی فرندفید! ظاهرا بچه های بالاترین بدجور به هیکل نجس شماها شاشیدن که اینقدر از اونجا تنفر داری.چه بهتر یه چند نفری تو بالاترین زیادی هستن که اونا هم میرن گورشونو گم میکنن به زودی.
- میر«آرش» موسوی
حال میکنین 4 تا رفیق خودتون میلایکنتون. نه؟ فردا هم خورشیدی طلوع میکنه تا سیاهی ها رو از بین ببره. این مزخرفاتی که دارودسته تون اینجا می فرستین شاید بتونه اذهان خارج نشینائی مثل نازلی کاموری رو منحرف کنه نه اونائی که تو متن درگیری ها بودن و حقایق رو به چشم خودشون دیدن
- میر«آرش» موسوی
شما می تونین انکار کنید ولی من نه من هر دو سوی ماجرا رو می بینم خیلی نباید کار سختی باشد ولی شما دوست دارید این بخش را نبینید می تونم بپرسم چه چیز این عکس ها قابل انکار است؟ کوتول مولوتوف؟ آدمش؟ محلش؟ به جای فحش بهتر نیست واقع بین بشیم؟
- Veto
البته ادب شما هم آقای آرش از دولت آقای موسوی بهتر است به به به به
- Veto
من فقط یک نکته را بگم: تا سالها بعد از 28 مرداد به دار و دسته شعبان بی مخ میگفتند "مردم." بنابراین این که کسی لباس نظامی نداره دلیل نمیشه دولتی نباشه.
- پويا
پویا جان این اتهام سنگینیه چطور میشه ثابتش کرد؟ اگر حرف تو راست باشه چرا جمعیت جلوشون رو نمی گیرن؟ اونها هم دولتی اند؟ همه ی جمعیت؟
- Veto
من اتهامی وارد نمیکنم. صرفا یک شبهه در استدلال شما را وارد کردم
- پويا
چندان وارد نیست تصاویر خیلی گویایی است دوستان ادب مند مخالف پرست ما کمی هم دست به تیرشان بد نیست
- Veto
من چیزی رو انکار نکردم شما به کاربری گفتی برو فلانجا اینجا نیا من ازت سوالی کردم جواب بده تا بعد
- میر«آرش» موسوی
ضمنا اگه اینا مردم عادی هستند که دارن آتیش میزنن همون جائی که شما میگی رو من میگم دستشون درد نکنه لابد یه چیزی دیدن که دارن اینکارو میکنن. هروقت شما پذیرفتین اون مزدوری که داشت از بالای پشت بوم اون خراب شده با لباس نیمه فرم به سمت مردم شلیک میکرد واقیعه منم میگم این مردم دارن الکی یه جائی رو آتیش میزنن. بازم میگم خزعبلاتتون برای خارج نشینا شاید انحرافی ایجاد کنه ولی برای داخل نشینا نه
- میر«آرش» موسوی
بله این فید مال منه شما شکی داری؟ من حق دارم تعیین کنم کسی زیر فید من فکر نکنه بالاترینه به همین سادگی البته اینجا نمیشه بیماری روانی رو با منفی دادن ارضا کردن و همینش سوز داره برای بالاترینی ها افتاد؟
- Veto
من کجا گفتم واقعی نیست؟ ولی شما می تونین بگین چرا به این پایگاه حمله شده؟ شما ادعا می کنین اون به قول شما مزدور اول تیر زده و به قول نازلی اینها هم زرتی تونستن کوکتول بسازن اسلحه از کجا وردن که در و دیوارش رو سوراخ سوراخ کردن؟
- Veto
پس مثل بچه آدم بگو زیر فید من نیا وقتی میگی اینجا، اینجا فرندفیده.
- میر«آرش» موسوی
نه داداش اون مزدور تیر خورد و مرد بعد روحش شروع کرد به تیر زدن وقتی حرف مفت میزنی درست بزن. یعنی چی که اول تیر زد؟ خوب معلومه که تیر زد.
- میر«آرش» موسوی
پس جای گلوله هایی که عکساش شیر شده از کجا او.مده؟ شما بجز فحاشی تحلیل هم بلدی؟
- Veto
آقای محلل مردم اگه تفنگ داشتن بجای 8 تا بسیجی 80 تاشون کشته میشدن
- میر«آرش» موسوی
به به پس تائید می کنین مردم نبودن اراذل بودن که اسلحه اگر داشتن بیشتر می کشتن
- Veto
دلم میسوزه برای مملکتم که مردمش اعتراضشون رو آرام و بدون فحش برگزار میکنن و اونوقت یه حرومزاده بهشون میگه این مردم اراذل هستن.
- میر«آرش» موسوی
تو كامنتهاي اول ديدم ايشون رو به حاجي نجمي ياد كردن دوستان ميخواستم بدونم ايشون اكانت دوم آقاي نجمي به آدرس http://friendfeed.com/najmi هستند يا تشابهه اسميه؟
- یکییدونه
I don't agree with the notion that life on Earth originated on Mars (or any other planet). I think it started and evolved from chemical reactions right here. Still, love this graphic out of context.
- Kamilah Gill
Kamilah: I'm not sure what to believe about where it started but the conditions would have had to been right
- outofmyarse
there is still a chance that it was carried here from other sources (comets from other systems etc). The only thing we can say is that it's here :)
- alphaxion