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Friendfeed 2018 - http://blogoscoped.com/friendf...
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Kirb, HealingBrush, kofai and 67 other people liked this
Why is Twitter shutting down in 2012?
- Steve Rubel
Plus it will have lots more (Google) Services added to it :-)
- Martin Rix (Mrrix32)
@Steve I don't think it means Twitter is shutting down. I think it means Twitter will bar FriendFeed from using its feed ;-)
- Rubin Sfadj
This is too kewl
- Peter Dawson
Hilarious - may all come to pass before 2018.
- Todd McKinney
Love it. But 2018? I'd except to be able to get Friend.com directly through the HUD in my flying car by then... Only silversurfers (like us) would still use "web browsers" in 2018.
- Tony Ruscoe
Twitter feed not available? That may come to pass at 10:30.
- Bill Bittner
And what's up with "low karma comments"? I thought the karma thing left us in the seventies... but yes, everything comes on cycles...
- Alex von Halem
awesome.
- Tobias Boonstoppel
You've got the Google thing backwards :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hey, I just noticed I'm in the screenshot. :D @Paul: ? What's backwards, where?
- Voyagerfan5761
Actually, it missed one important thing - a HUGE ad, taking up the top half of the screen, for a substance that is just as effective as Viagra (which was banned in 2011).
- Ontario Emperor
I think Paul's saying that in 2018 ff will own google
- j1m
It's comforting that hitting monkeys will still be as popular in 2018 as they are now.
- Ginger Makela Riker
One thing they got wrong: by 2012, Paul will have started his own country southwest of Alaska on an artificial island. It'll be called Free Festivusland, and it'll get the top-level domain “ff”. FriendFeed will then be http://ff/ — no dots or coms or nets or orgs.
- Amit Patel
@Amit P. ROFL .. very funny
- Steven Hodson
@Jason lol :D
- Voyagerfan5761
I think the web will be voice and audio driven in 10 years, or at least it will be available. There's even some startup now that can sense nerve pulses to the vocal chords to know what you'll say before you actually say it.
- Mike Reynolds
I think comments won't be replaced by nested commented, just like @ in twitter, many people like this.
- terababy
Mike Reynolds, now I'm scared. Very scared. I'll get myself in trouble before I actually hear what I'm saying (rather than after).
- Ontario Emperor
For some reason, the Facebook deal makes this future user interface look more likely.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Mystifying: Dave Winer is still complaining about Twitter's 140-character limit. Simply channel pointers and links to your blog entries to your Twitter feed, or use Friendfeed. Where is the problem? Twitter's chief virtue is its brevity. Don't muck it up.
Maia Bittner, Morton Fox and Roberto Bonini liked this
I agree. You can say a lot in 140 charecters if you pick your words and abbiviations right.
- Roberto Bonini
And you can easily use tweets to point to documents or document collections of any type or size. Dave Winer doesn't seem to understand Twitter.
- Sean McBride
The current leadership of the GOP: Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney. Instead of moving back towards the center they are moving farther towards the right.
Steven Perez, Rudolf Olah, sofarsoShawn and 2 other people liked this
There's an old political saying "the only thing in the middle of the road is roadkill"
- Robert Hafer
Farther to the right? Is that even possible?
- Rene Wirtz
Success in American politics usually means sailing towards the center, where most of the votes are.
- Sean McBride
Those names don't sound like the faces necessary for a very good GOP recruitment poster.
- Trish R
The center seems to be the gravitational political force in most western countries.
- Rene Wirtz
OTOH, you couldn't find a GOP nominee more centrist than McCain; and you see how that worked out for the GOP.
- Robert Hafer
Most Rockefeller Republicans have been driven out of the party by pitchforks -- not much chance of returning.
- Sean McBride
Time to form a new party, amirite?
- Rudolf Olah
Well there's no doubt Palin's future is at the Federal level because it certainly isn't in Alaska any more. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn...
- John Hardy
With all the Democrats in the center right now, perhaps there's not much room there to define themselves ; >
- Cole Jolley
VocabGrabber Takes Any Text, Gives Language Learners Visual Aid - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Maia Bittner liked this
New Assumptions for Designing for the Social Web - http://www.slideshare.net/factory...
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Lu Tao, Sean O'Brien, Maia Bittner and 4 other people liked this
Does this make anyone feel nauseous...
Leandro Ardissone ⍨, Toby Graham, Mark Krynsky and 39 other people liked this
I get vertigo looking at stuff like that, yeah... Doesn't really bother me in person though...
- Tad
doesn't bother you in person?? :)
- Zee.
No, not really ... *hurls in corner*
- Steven Perez
bothers me , that a one legged man is standing up that high ...
- johnpiercy
oh oh oh.. WANT TO GO!
- CW™
I wanna know where the other leg is
- johnpiercy
Not at all ... this is awesome!
- Penny
Only a bit troubled that the shoe is definitely not steel-toe and therefore not a worker...so a suicide is imminent, which is not cool. Otherwise great photo. I love heights.
- Josh Haley
wow, that's really amazing
- Susan Beebe
i'm deathly afraid of heights. so yes.
- Morgan
He'd definitely damage a car. I'd sue
- Gordon Swaby
quite
- William Harryman
Watch that first step. It's a doozy.
- Larry Kless
JESUS IS ALIVE!
- Outsanity
Do it, do it, DO IT!!
- Carolyn Chan
Oh noes -- we need a barrier that extends all the way to the top?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
When I went to Toronto, we went to the observation deck of the CN Tower. It has a glass floor.
- Ontario Emperor
little bit, yeah. Especially if you knew the distance from the bridge itself to the SF Bay below. I like the old picture of the construction workers on the steel beam eating lunch. That always gives me a spot of the vertigo.
- Pete Delucchi
Yes, those shoes don't go at all.
- Todd Hoff
YES!!!!! And I can't stop looking!!
- Lea Daugherty-Moon
damn!
- fbrunel
Before 2 weeks ago, I would have said yes, However, after hanging out of a moving aircraft at 11,000 feet, not so much. :)
- teleken
My favorite site the past month has been http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ pretty neutral political polling results. Four more days!
Maia Bittner, Susan Beebe, Sean McBride and 16 other people liked this
Good site for poll tracking. If you want minute to minute updates on the horse race, this is the place to be. Political stats OD.
- Rolf Schewe
FiveThirtyEight.com isn't neutral. He consistently changes modeling when it doesn't meet the expectation that Obama or Democrats are going to win, and he's a regular on Countdown. His models are interesting, but they're definitely optimistic towards Democrats.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark: Nate is a Democrat, no doubt and you know he wants Obama and Democrats to win. However, he's been much more balanced this election cycle, often going out of his way to not be partisan in his numbers. That and he's been very open on his analysis for weighting each pollster.
- AJ Kohn
Any evidence of bias?
- Tanath
AJ: I really wouldn't call it going out of his way. He's usually the last source to show McCain or Republicans tightening or gaining ground; sometimes several days after Gallup, RCP, or electoral-vote.com has shown a trend. If you're basing your expectations off of what he's predicting, you're going to be disappointed. You can't have a vested interest in an election and be non-biased.
- Mark Trapp
Yes you can. You just can't avoid being suspected of bias.
- Tanath
Nate makes his living by being right. His credibility is on the line. I mean, even most Republicans admit McCain has no chance.
- Mike Reynolds
Barbara Walters and Larry King.
- Mona Nomura
@Mark: There hasn't been a real big difference between RCP, E-V and 538 in my opinion. E-V is also heavily democratic though. But RCP and 538 have stalked each other all year. I'm not counting on any of them, just doing my part to discuss the issues and get out the vote. I'm not showboating or coasting. But Nate was *very* gentle when IBD showed McCain with a huge lead in the youth vote. He's ID's polling bias for both Democrats and Republicans. You may say it's not enough, but that's also an opinion ;)
- AJ Kohn
Mike: what is he right about? An election that hasn't happened? His models are complete fancy until they actually predict an election. Until then, the only thing to base them on is the person creating the models, a person who is unabashedly biased towards one party. It's soothsaying, and it comes down to what you want to believe, not what's right.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, he purposefully dials down the effect that new polls have on his stats for a reason and it isn't to show Obama in a better light than McCain...It's to filter out noisy results...And if anything, his vested interest is to be right about the outcome because otherwise he has no credibility.
- Alex Scoble
And if you don't think his polling interpretation is accurate, that's fine, but that doesn't invalidate his trendline.
- Alex Scoble
Mark: Nate predicts many things. He was the one who predicted the Tampa Bay Rays would win 90 games this year - and they did.
- Mike Reynolds
Scott: you want to attack me based on my political leanings than arguing to my point, you might be interested to know I'm a huge Obama supporter, so I don't really know what your attack has to do with what I'm saying. And he's not a pollster: he's creating models off of other people's polls, giving them weights based off of what he thinks matches his own expectation of the way the campaign is going.
- Mark Trapp
Oh and I have yet to see him make any tweaks that would favor one candidate or another. Most of the tweaks he has made of late have been to how quickly new results gain weight in the overall stats. He's consistently changed it as we get closer to the election so that newer results are weighed in faster than they were before.
- Alex Scoble
Mike: care to show me the link between sports performance and popular sentiment? Baseball isn't decided by the will of an electorate. This is his first time predicting an election. He's got zero track record with it. We'll see what happens after Tuesday, but to say everyone should trust him because he's right is circular.
- Mark Trapp
Alex: his trending is overly optimistic. It's probably closer to what all the other modelers are saying, which gives McCain is somewhat good chance of upsetting Obama. FiveThirtyEight is still saying things like Obama has a 96% chance of winning, which no poll indicates.
- Mark Trapp
He does not adjust weight of polls based on how he thinks the campaign is going.
- Alex Scoble
His trending is optimistic? If anything it's conservative. He has Obama leading by less than 6% of the popular vote when there are more than a few polls showing Obama leading by double digits. And the win percentage is based upon the simulations that he runs based on the polling stats. His system does over 10k simulations of each probable outcome and determines electoral votes based on that. You look at just about any of the polling maps and they all have Obama way ahead in the electoral votes...
- Alex Scoble
which is how a winner is determined.
- Alex Scoble
Mark: I pointed out my own doubt about his purported bias, therefore he's not undoubtably biased. I asked for evidence, and you haven't provided any. To be frank, you're the one who seems biased here.
- Tanath
Alex: consider today's prediction: he says 344 electoral votes. RCP says 311, CNN says 291, MSNBC says 286, USA Today says 248, and others say things around the same numbers. He consistently predicts electoral vote totals at least 30, sometimes 50-70, votes beyond anyone else. If his models show even a 1% lead for Obama, he gives him the state. He doesn't account for margins of error,...
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- Mark Trapp
Technical Note from Nate today. It's a good read: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008...
- AJ Kohn
@Mark: RCP has Obama at 353 (must look at no toss up state stat for comparative number.) E-V also has Obama at 353. So among the three leading sites, Nate is actually the more conservative at present.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: the no toss up is bunk and goes to my point. To assume all the toss ups are going to break Obama is overly optimistic considering the recent trending. At least RCP features its tossup prediction instead of its no tossup prediction.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, take a step back and think it through.
- Tanath
@Mark: Well, it would be bunk if they assumed all the toss ups are going to break to Obama. But ... look at it again. That's not what they're doing. They're taking the current snapshot that the RCP algorithm uses and using that to determine the winner in those close states.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: consider Florida: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls... RCP says Obama +4.2 based off of 6 polls, and they classify it as tossup. If you look at the polls, ARG is +4 Obama, with a margin of error of 4 points (statistical tie), Mason-Dixon is +2 margin is 4 points (tie), LA Times +7 Obama, margin is 4 points (Obama), Rasmussen...
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- Mark Trapp
He did not substantively change his model after the convention...look at the trend line, it distinctly shows McCain taking the lead because of the convention/Palin bounce. Oh and one other thing, if he was truly biasing his results in favor of Obama, he wouldn't be so transparent about the changes he's making nor the fact that he's a Democrat/Obama supporter.
- Alex Scoble
@Mark: Also, looking at CNN. That 291 is not a prediction. It's a grouping of states they believe are heavily Obama. CNN doesn't take a stand on where the toss up states are going to go. Comparing Nate's 344 prediction versus non-predictive counts that exclude toss up states is ... come on!
- AJ Kohn
AJ: to not call tossup states is conservative: if it's within the margin of error, there is no empirical proof to show the state goes to one person or another. FiveThirtyEight doesn't account for margins of error, nor does electoral-vote, nor does RCP. It's optimistic to think states polling within the margin of error are going to break either way, but FiveThirtyEight makes it seem like...
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- Mark Trapp
@Mark: I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with the Florida numbers. It's a toss up state in RCP. But if you force them to predict, they look at the snapshot and call a winner. Right now it goes to Obama. What's the big deal. These sites are actually trying to show the final count, whereas others won't. So do we bash 538, RCP and E-V for going out on a limb with the data they have at hand? I just don't understand your consternation here Mark.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: there is nothing to show that a statistical tie will break one way or the other. Forcing predictions based on tied polls amounts to flipping a coin or going with one's gut. The no tossup methodology used by FiveThirtyEight (and electoral-vote) is overly optimistic. RCP does have a no tossup map, but it's secondary. To believe a map that doesn't account for margins of error is neutral and/or accurate is an exercise in believing what you want to believe, not what is empirically observed.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark: You are against trying to predict the final EV count based on current data. That's fine. You prefer that a call not be made. Or perhaps you have another site that does it differently. But your original assumption that Nate is more biased doesn't compute upon inspecting those others (EV, RCP) that try to do the same thing. And is certainly specious when comparing 538 to others that do not even attempt to provide a prediction of the *total* count.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: he's overly optimistic because he discounts margins of error. He's biased because he's partisan, he overweighs polls that use unproven assumptions that favor Obama (like new voters and young voters), and has modified his models when McCain overperforms. You've come up with specific counter examples which required specific responses, but I've already stated why I think he's biased several times now.
- Mark Trapp
yeah for 4 more days!!
- Susan Beebe
Any rational interpretation of public polls has Obama at 300+, way more than enough to win. FiveThirtyEight.com has it right.
- Mike Reynolds
Statistical error only works if you have one poll. If you have multiple polls over a long period all telling you the same thing with little variance, then margin of error is greatly diminished. The important thing is the trendline for each state...that's why he factors in poll results over a longer period than just one or two days.
- Alex Scoble
For the record, his predictions were very accurate.
- Alex Scoble
Uses of the phrase "Up in this bitch" - http://www.explosm.net/db...
Tanath, Toby Graham, (jeff)isageek and 42 other people liked this
I honestly LOL'ed when I saw this.
- Derrick
Oh I promise you: so did I!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
hahahaha :D
- Anna Haro
LO-f*cking-L
- tiffany
it's the smile... that energy
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Please make it stop. Wife is looking at me with that "What kind of nut did I marry" look.
- ha3rvey (business time)
http://www.youtube.com/watch... Delta ebonics commercial: "We be flyin' you all over this bitch."
- Lisa L. Seifert
ROFL
- mjc
original source http://explosm.net/comics/1311
- mjc
comedy
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
super LOLz
- .LAG liked that
oh good times
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
lol
- Kyle Weller
SNL Palin Parody Actually Just a Transcript of Her Interview - http://ct.buzzfeed.com/rd...
Pedro Beltrao, Ricardo Vidal, Maia Bittner and Rudolf Olah liked this
Technology Doesn’t Dumb Us Down. It Frees Our Minds. - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
Maia Bittner, Hrafn Th. Thórisson, Brandon Titus and Deepak Singh liked this
"Google makes deep reading impossible. Media changes. Our brains’ wiring changes too. Computers think for us, flattening our intelligence."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
I am not sure computers "think for us" is the right way to put it. Computers guide our thinking is probably a better way of saying how computers and information have adjusted our approach (and yes tech does free up our minds)
- Deepak Singh
Tech frees our minds like antibacterial soap makes our immune systems weak and cars make our lifestyles sedentary. To what extent is taking the time to read a book or bike to work a luxury instead of an austere practice?
- Mr. Gunn
90 Mobiles in 90 Days - http://90mobilesin90days.com/index...
Maia Bittner and Alemsah Ozturk liked this
Quote: "I’m in creative recovery. For the next 90 days, I’m going to think about, sketch, draw, and prototype ideas about mobile design and post them here. Like folks recovering from any addiction, I don’t know what is at the end of these 90 days. I’m just gonna commit to thinking about it every day for 90 days and have faith that something good will be on the other side."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
FINALLY finished building my single speed!!! Rode it to Dolores and I'm enjoying the sun. Pics on Flickr soon.
Maia Bittner liked this
About once a week, I come *this close* to giving everything up, to draw/paint full time.
Maia Bittner, Dave Martin and Yolanda liked this
I feel that way about music. Or writing.
- Helen Sventitsky
10 Speech Backgrounds Designed To Make John McCain Look Less Pale - http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008...
Maia Bittner, Tsega Dinka, Andrew and 13 other people liked this
I really LOL'ed these. 2,3 & 4 are my favorites.
- Adam Helweh
from Bookmarklet
Dude from Powder is also an awesome one.
- Adam Helweh
excerpt from a letter from a boy to me, pt 1: "And Catholic school? It's such a great place if you want to become atheist." hehe sooo true
Maia Bittner liked this
bricabox - Google Code - http://code.google.com/p...
Maia Bittner, Francois Lamotte and Geoffrey Richard liked this
"BricaBox is a first-of-its-kind Social Content Platform, designed for consumers, groups and publishers to easily create websites that mimic the functionality of large-scale social content websites, such as YouTube, Yelp, IMDB, and Flickr."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
@screwdriver says study shows babies fall 50,000 times while learning to walk.
Nicholas James, Maia Bittner, Jon Dillon and 21 other people liked this
that is the definition of perseverance! How can a parent NOT burst with pride when they finally accomplish it!
- Melanie Reed
can't resist. Zach teaching himself to walk: http://karinandbrad.com/node...
- Brad Nickel
Seems like I failed 50,000 times before I got a date, but I may be exaggerating.
- Andrew Leyden
This reminded me of the simulating humans TED talk: http://www.ted.com/index...
- Simon Janes
I'm still falling!
- Jeremiah Owyang
Somehow that number doesn't pass the smell test
- Brian Sullivan
It's not the 50,000 falls while he was learning I worry about. It's the 500 he will take now that he is big, fast and clumsy. He seems more so near walls and large posts in the ground.
- Sean Brady
"Why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up again." - Dr. Thomas Wayne
- Craig Ritchie
from twhirl
this guy has no baby !
- Frédéric Sidler
+1 For Crsigs quote.
- Roberto Bonini
Brian, if a baby learns to stand up and walk well over a 9 month period or approx 270 days, this would yield about 185 falls per day on average. I bet there's a logarithmic drop off of falls, however, but oh well. I've seen babies do a pop up and down thing early on which could easily skew the average. Anyway, 185 drops on ave does sound a little high, but it may be at the right...
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- Loren Heiny
i think you could replace the word "babies" with "entrepreneurs" or "startups" and the 50,000 number would be just about right.
- dave mcclure
just made a decision that felt ... decidedly management-like. I need a shower!
Maia Bittner, Yolanda and James (@willia4) liked this
I am excited at the idea that social media is finally starting to break the confines of the computer and is branching off into mobile devices. It will increase our opportunity to get off our butts and meet those near us and enjoy being away from the desk.
Hao Chen, Maia Bittner, Mikael Pittam and Patphelan liked this
Additionally, this has positive health implications. No matter how hooked you are, you have an excuse to be "unleashed".
- Adam Helweh
I currently downloaded the Twitterific app from the App Store and its being installed as we speak. No Twinkle on there yet. Do you actually try and connect with people you see on Twinkle?
- Adam Helweh
I tried pusinh mobile technology in '98 w/ sms stuff. It's funny how slow people have been to adapt to utilizing new platforms to communicate. I broke my smartphone and still have hacked up a simple sms platform to distribute content & to connect w/o fancy 2.0 technology.
- Alex Shliomovich
I don't think so, but there is Loopt and a couple others. I will see how they work on my 2g iPhone without GPS.
- Adam Helweh
Social media has been mobile for a while but we don't need it on mobile device in order to break out of the box. I always said that social media was simply a facilitator bringing people together so that they can then take their conversations away to the most appropriate forum - with any luck that will be by phone or even face to face if geography allows. We can be mobile without mobile devices, we just have to get off our backsides and make the effort to extend our online 'friendships' in to the real world.
- Colin Walker
from fftogo
@Colin I like that statement because you went beyond just being connected while on the road and made the goal for us to step forward and meet face to face. Thats the ultimate definition of "connected", yes?
- Adam Helweh
Donald Norman's book "The Invisible Computer" predicted this years ago - I'm also super excited!
- Maia Bittner
@Adam - exactly, social media is all about connecting so we should take that as far as we can.
- Colin Walker
from fftogo
Who Needs Music Labels? Last.fm Starts Paying Royalties To Unsigned Artists - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Maia Bittner liked this
welcome to the future baby!
- Maia Bittner
Just cooked brunch with R&M - made melon mimosas with left over sorbet from last night - mmmm so good
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yum!
- Maia Bittner
"The people you add on FriendFeed tend to reflect your interests." -Bret Taylor #sdforum
Joao, JA Castillo, Chris Jones and 27 other people liked this
Very true
- Deepak Singh
Isn't that (for the most part) the point of FF?
- Justin Korn
I choose subscriptions based on a core-perimeter model. The core are people whose interests I know overlap with my own. But I also try to have a strong perimeter - very high quality information sources across a wide variety of areas. So I read blogs by people like Robin Hanson (economist), Terry Tao (mathematician), Ethan Zuckerman (developing world), etc. Unfortunately, FriendFeed usage still seem to be mostly concentrated in a few areas.
- Michael Nielsen
Michael, it will get more interesting over time. Waiting for the synthesizer geeks to show up :)
- Deepak Singh
Michael, that is one of the best comments I've seen on FF.
- David Gutelius
This is true with most things in life. Your real friends, the sites you visit, etc. Why is this so shocking? Just saying... :P
- James Mowery
from twhirl
it's not shocking... It's justa useful quote that sums up the service... ;)
- Chris Messina
I know, but, it could be applied to every social network: Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, and YouTube. Even forums and such. I'm sure the Bret guy is smart, but I mean... yeah.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
Yeah, I'm being really picky about what I read on FriendFeed. Trying to master the "hide" functionality like so many have suggested to filter out the not-so-useful stuff. :D
- James Mowery
from twhirl
Thanks, David!
- Michael Nielsen
Couldn't agree more. I just added a bunch of gluten free people cause I have celiacs and then the usual band of geeks.
- Ryan Cates
I'm just going to subscribe to Michael so I won't have to work so hard to track those people down.
- Todd McKinney
and would even be more interesting if FF helped me discover more folks who werent like m, but were still interesting.
- dave mcclure
But I'm filtering out the social news stuff, for the most part.
- Tamar Weinberg
+1 Dave McClure... we need categories of interests badly! so we can filter content and subscribe accordingly; plus rooms would also be associated with said categories... (I already submitted a feature request for this)
- Susan Beebe
the funny thing is that FriendFeed wouldn't work for me if it was my actual circle of friends. they like stuff that I have no interest in.
- Jamie
Jamie: Funny but true for me too. I really like Susan's suggestion for finding cool new things and interesting people via categories. That would open the door for a StumbleUpon-like function for FF.
- David Muir
I agree. And thats a good thing..right? Every day when I come to FF it works like "Google News" for me :)
- Saad Kamal
It's exactly what u said . ... The more popular ur friends are , The more famous u are
- saee:Dsharif
Obviously the content I choose to see - I am interested in. However and this is not just semantics what I am "interested in" at a particular moment and my more permanent "interests" are NOT necessarily the same things. And for me a core benefit of social networks is discovery. For that reason I would say, no, the people I follow do not tend to reflect my interests all the time.
- John Samuelson
I think that would be the main reason why you would add people on FriendFeed although it is not the only reason. You could add friends (who are not on FF) by making them "imaginary friends" just so that you could keep tabs on them.
- Hubert Lotilla
@Hubert turns out whoisi.com approximates the imaginary friend feature rather well...
- Chris Messina
OMG! Friendfeed added User Profiles! - http://userscripts.org/scripts...
Dave Martin, Maia Bittner, Yolanda and 33 other people liked this
No, sorry, they didn't add profiles yet. It's just my GM script to pull twitter bios onto FF user pages. :|
- Hao Chen
from Bookmarklet
@bitfaker, this user-script is perfect... Thanks
- Czar
You're very welcome. :)
- Hao Chen
Aww... The title got me excited. :(
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Link bait. puhaha! ;x
- Hao Chen
Aha! Thank you so much for the idea! :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
These scripts are great, keep going :)
- sergiooo
Thanks! :D
- Hao Chen
Damn! You make me write a bio on my Twitter. LOL
- LouCypher
Haha! I wish there was a disable service here on FF, so you could still link to your twitter, but not publish it to your stream. I see some people removing twitter, but it's still a good way to contact someone here until FF has messaging.
- Hao Chen
sweeet! now pls make a j/k script for friendfeed :-P
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Would have been cool
- Gordon Swaby
installed. Hao, great work with these scripts as always,
- Alan Le
awesome. though it fails on my account as my german twitter account is listed first (nicole_de / nicolesimon ) - any ideas how to fix that? If possible I would list 'additional profile available' or so, so that one sees 'there is more than one'
- Nicole Simon
Thanks for the suggestion, Nicole. I'll LYK when I post a fix.
- Hao Chen
i'd be happy to be test object, though as we know most people will not have this problem. the best solution i can come up with is marking the relevant one on twitter, like when twitter >1 you parse all twitter bios and check for a certain usually unused character. THE BEST solution of course is just let friendfeed finally come up with the bio part as we see it on twitter, but well.
- Nicole Simon
Ahh, so mean, so mean. Good idea though.
- xero
Updated! Added LinkedIn support, allows customization of which fields to display by editing the script and setting the variables at the top to TRUE or FALSE, and displays multiple of the same service type (ie. two twitter accounts).
- Hao Chen
Hao, is there any way to modify this so that the extended profile doesn't show up when I'm on the Me page? I don't really need to see my own profile info and I've noticed that the Comments / Likes / See both links get pushed below the fold.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, good call. Will post fix tonight.
- Hao Chen
Hao, Very nice update. I particularly like the 'skills' block being here on friendfeed.
- Czar
I like it. Do you work for FF, bitfaker?
- Franklin Naval
Thanks. No, Franklin. :)
- Hao Chen
you should! =D or come work with me. ;-)
- Franklin Naval
works perfect, added it Sunday, love GreaseMonkey
- Patphelan
how do you like the translator API?
- Franklin Naval
Translator API? If you're talking about http://userscripts.org/scripts... I love it! Translation is not always 100% accurate, but it still works REALLY well. I can usually get the gist of what they're talking about.
- Hao Chen
[you really should look into that update notification mechanism, or at least number them so we notice when it was updated :)] I think it would be best to put it above "Subscriptions" and plz if so make it a switch so I can see it on my page or not. I like to check mine if complete.
- Nicole Simon
Hao, maybe change the script to use LinkedIn if the user one has that and likewise for twitter. If the user has both, then use the Twitter bio. displaying both is redundant.
- Alan Le
Nicole, thanks for reminding me. Alan, I'll make a UI for it to be configurable so people can pick and choose what they want to see.
- Hao Chen
Updated with suggestions. See new thread http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Hao Chen
Battlestar Galactica: Battlestar Keeps On Keeping On, According To Six - http://io9.com/5022327...
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people keep posting this link with this picture and i keep 'liking' it every time.
- MG Siegler
i wish the FF bookmarklet could let me be a little more selective with the images... there were other images on that page that it wouldn't recognize somehow. (couldn't pickup the io9 background logo image for some reason). anyway..
- dave mcclure
The FF bookmarklet obviously realized this was the best possible picture to use, and I can't say I disagree with it.
- David Worrell
You know, I'm not even reading the article - just looking at her pic - I'll say it, damn she's hot!
- Renee Hendricks
@dave - i think maybe Six was using cylon abilities to get in your head and make you post her image.
- MG Siegler
that image is...truncated. http://tvtailgate.files.wordpress.com/2008...
- Robert Seidman
I want to update my "status", but I don't know if I should do it on Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, or something else...
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He, I see you did all three :)
- Bret Taylor
Check out http://ping.fm It lets you update all your social networks (with one notable exception of Friendfeed). If you need an invite, use the code: pingofpings
- Mark Trapp
We need a tool to let you update all your statuses at once - I'd like to see one to manage my profile photos as well - anyone built something like that?
- Craig Thomler
Ping.fm does the statuses, and Gravatar (http://en.gravatar.com/) does global avatar sharing. Gravatar doesn't have too much adoption outside of blogging platforms, though.
- Mark Trapp
i also like to use hellotxt.com as it does this job quite well and they are actively seeking a SMS interface as well an IM interface.
- Nathan Eckenrode
thanks for the info mark, I was wondering if there was something like this out there.
- Devin Anderson
from fftogo
Same dilemma a while ago. I decided to do it like this: Update status in Skype Mood, which is connected with "AutoTwitter" which is connected with Facebook and Friendfeed. Hm.. Gmail missing?
- ※Fu※
use hellotxt.com for this. problem is you have to go back to all the sites where you set up aggregation or you get tons of double postings
- Mark Schulz
That's what ping.fm is for!
- Francine Hardaway
"you make it sound like one can either be great or have love. Are they really mutually exclusive?" - http://scandalous.tumblr.com/post...
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Blog=long rants. IM=chit-chat. Twitter=flash bulbs. FriendFeed= lunchroom table.
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minus twitter plus jaiku
- A.T.
how about IM for brainstorming? I think it works. Also, IM=instant notifications. And what about SMS? some people broke up or got fired via SMS ;-)
- Davide D'Incau
from fftogo
I think this is also why it's not an either/or proposition between Twitter and FriendFeed. Twitter imo will have broader appeal as a simple way to send one to many messages. FF appeals (perhaps with deeper engagement levels) to those who want to easily carry the conversation/discussion further. Both are great for personal branding -- hence their adoption by the technorati.
- Jason Goldberg
no FriendFeed=bar room debate
- Fred Grott
:) Fred
- Jason Goldberg
SNS=yearbook (photos, signatures/"the wall", contacts, memories)
- Hao Chen
Why are geeks often atheist? - http://m4th.com/Article...
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Cause geeks often look at the world logically and listen to George Carlin. :-)
- Robert Scoble
The gods don't scale.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
side effect of asking lots of tough questions, you start to get some answers that make sense.
- Nathan Eckenrode
As a fellow geek we better be sure we're right, because if we are wrong it's gonna be bad.
- Blackopsmanners
Blackopsmanners: my idea of hell is being forced to sit next to Jesse Helms for eternity. Of course HIS idea of hell is probably sitting next to me. So, who is in hell?
- Robert Scoble
Geeks are generally tech freaks and when you see item after item made by man changing the way your life is lived then it becomes pretty easy to accept that man invented god not the other way around.
- Jeff Jones
I think it has a lot to do with rarely humbling oneself enough to admit that they don't, "know it all" or "have all the answers". It's generally about humility, which geeks tend to have very little of.
- Trevor Carpenter
I cannot disagree more Trevor. Atheists are the ones saying "we don't have all the answers". Deity based religions certainly claim to do so.
- Jeff Jones
Trevor: Jeff is right. I used to be very religious. I found that most of the people who were religious were not humble at all and weren't able to look at the world without having any answers. Our minds are very strong pattern recognizers. It takes a lot of humility to turn off the pattern recognizer and just accept you don't have the answers. But, this is why I call myself an agnostic. I'm not certain there is not a God. Just like I'm not certain there is one, either.
- Robert Scoble
To Jeff and Robert. I certainly can understand what you are saying. However, I separate out the religious from the genuine Christian. The majority of the "religious", including many who clam Christianity, are far from humble. They are generally far from God too. I would not say that those who are legitamately close to God claim to to know it all. In fact, they would say that God knows it all, and we can't know it all. My statement about geeks not being humble is more poking fun than anything else.
- Trevor Carpenter
Trevor: I was in a church of people all of whom considered themselves as "genuine Christian." Part of the problem is that religious people assume they really know what makes someone a "real believer."
- Robert Scoble
I'm a card-carrying member of a deity based religion as Jeff calls it. Christian is what I am and I certainly don't claim to have all the answers. In fact, I have very few. That's why I need/desire the deity. Right? Sadly, there is an unfortunate number of folks on both (many?) sides of this argument who give their own group a bad rap. I'm just trying to not be one of them. The way I see it, God is the one who created the patterns we're recognizing so I'll accept that He has the answers I need.
- Lisa L. Seifert
Thank you, Lisa.
- Trevor Carpenter
Lisa: the thing is, anyone who professes to "believe" has already put something in their pattern recognizer that simply isn't there. Or, have you really seen God? But I'm going to beg out of this. I learned in the 1990s that these conversations never convince anyone and just piss people off. So, "Hide" is earned, have fun.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. Sure, I know what you're saying. No belief system is worth anything if it in fact doesn't claim to be the "right" way. Without taking this too far...I'm coming from a traditionally reformed, Bible believing worldview. All that to say, Lisa is right. Even those on my team have harmed your view of true Christianity.
- Trevor Carpenter
just think of a computer software program that has a certain set of rules....if then statements, etc....then think of DNA and explain...then who set the rules? randomly appeared?
- Pokai
You're welcome, Trevor. (For what?) Robert: I'm sad that you're hiding the conversation. Nobody's pissed off. (Yet??) And I'm certainly not reading that anyone is trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply seeing different opinions here. And I like that. As far as seeing God: not in the way I'm assuming you mean. But I see the God-Effect everywhere, not to be confused with the Scoble Effect. ;-) Ocean, Wind, my own body-muscles, bones, blood, organs, blah, blah, blah. Standard argument. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
thanks lisa, I think we should whip Scoble into the posted 60 foot monster wave (by Mitchell Tsai) and see what happens to his belief system....then he can tell us what happened to George Carlin :)
- Pokai
Because few deities are open source.
- Craig Thomler
I am of the view that historically and currently that Established Religions are a cause of a lot of Evil in the world and that has always been a major switch off for me about any Church.
- David W
because they don't like the fact that there is something they cannot explain? or maybe because they don't like the fact that there is something that is (could be) controlling them?
- Timo Zimmermann
from twhirl
@ Robert, I think it's unfair to paint whole groups of people as one things or another: muslims, Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, et. al which is probably what bothers me most about these discussions. Not the facts of what's right or wrong, but rather the debate normally centers around painting a wide brush across an over-generalized groups of people. see "why are geeks often atheist?" I know a lot of smart people who believe a lot of different things ...
- David Adewumi
I think the questions of humility/uncertainty vs. "we know whats best" views of religion can correspond well to the tech world...there are entrepreneurs looking for what has been the missing, the algebraic X, the unknown that hasnt been built yet or thought of (think of major advances like RSS or SNs a la twitter or friend feed...and then there was the aol way of thinking where they thought they could comprehend entirely the social aspects of the web in a closed platform...geek doesnt always = athiest
- joshuabacker
One reason the I am turned off by religion is that each one tends to believe that their version is the only version. Some even to the point of professing to kill others that do not believe the way they do. There is very little tolerance of other points of view. Most Christian religions profess tolerance of others and I'm sure their are some groups that do practice this, but I find significant hypocrisy with most religious institutions between what they preach and how the really act.
- Jeff P. Henderson
ok kambiz, interesting, but what makes the same genetic material become a frog, dog or human?
- Pokai
@Pokai, Mutation.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Lisa, I was simply thankful for your comments. They were spot on.
- Trevor Carpenter
I really loved this part of the article:The absence of proof does not mean there is no proof at all; but it does give a strong reason to doubt if there is any. Geeks have conditioned themselves to think logically, just as the religious have been conditioned to replace logic with trust in what they are told. What can be extracted from this is that geeks are not atheists simply because...
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- Lisa L. Seifert
I agree david. I wonder why intelligence is their defense.
- Pokai
Continued from previous post: I liked that part for the reminder to keep thinking. I don't ever want to be conditioned to think one thing only whether I'm wearing my Christian hat, my geek hat, my caretaker hat, etc. I don't think we can generalize either way. I agree with David - and with Jeff regarding hypocrisy. It's one reason I hesitate to enter into discussion of beliefs. I know I'm being lumped right now by some of you; but I'd rather try to state my own point of view than sit back and be lumped.
- Lisa L. Seifert
I unhid this for a second just to see what direction it went in. I'm hiding again. Some things haven't changed in 10 years, I see. Sigh. See, I used to participate in every religious thread in Visual Basic Programmer's Journal's CompuServe forum (after moving them to that magazine's "OffRamp" which is where we moved stuff that went off topic). The conversations always degenerated just like this one has into calling the other side names. No one ever learns anything. So, Lisa, sorry. I'm getting older I guess
- Robert Scoble
than you kamrani and jeff for your clarification,
- Pokai
Bye, Robert... Does this mean you won't come to the parties I host at the Ritz once I move to HMB?? ;-) I'm sure I'll get the chance to discuss greater issues such as religion with you at some time when there will be no name-calling. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
i think scoble just faked hiding, but he is still reading...funny how scoble made the first comment on this post...
- Pokai
Oh, no. Do not doubt. Scoble is THE hider. :-) Eventually, he may look back, but he is the best of the hiders. I hide because he has inspired me to do so... Seriously. I always forget about it until he evangelizes it. Then I hide again.
- Lisa L. Seifert
@Jeff "One reason the I am turned off by religion is that each one tends to believe that their version is the only version. Some even to the point of professing to kill others that do not believe the way they do." Now replace 'religion' with (culture, style of government, monetary system, nation, state, language, et. al) and you will see this is not an effective argument. See current war in Iraq/Afghanistan for an example. Is that really about religion?
- David Adewumi
Up to this point, I can't find one person, on either side of the discussion calling anyone a name. Where are the name-callers? (excluding Lisa's, "Scoble is THE hider.")
- Trevor Carpenter
This is a misconception
- Alan Wilensky
from twhirl
wow, I step away for a night, and look what I miss!
- Andrew Badera
FWIW, I was born, christened, raised Roman Catholic. I was even an altar boy, but that was mostly due to the boredom I experienced, sitting in the pews. I don't claim to have all the answers -- I lean more towards labeling myself an agnost than atheist these days -- but I know, quite for certain, that organized religions don't have it any more right than I do.
- Andrew Badera
Nobel physics Stephen Hawking: No need the God model
- Igor Poltavskiy
Creators of religions (or any influential belief system) are interesting (perhaps as much for their pathologies as anything else). Followers of belief systems created by others are not interesting, at least in that aspect of their lives that is organized around a script that they didn't create. They are sleep walkers.
- Sean McBride
First, not all deity-based religions claim to be the right and only way. In fact, Judaism is based on the idea that it is right for Jews and probably not right for anyone else. It's partially because of this sense of exclusivity that probably fuels Antisemitism. Also, when a lot of people say 'religion', they usually mean just Christianity because it's all they know. It's unfair to other religions to be so blindly grouped.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I was raised in a Christian household and definitely see HUGE problems with Religion and the "Church" at large. In fact, I am so bothered, I stopped going to church as a result and am routinely offended by the all non-sense/crap espoused by religious groups and church organizations. I believe God exists. I have no unbelief in this regard as I have personally experienced some wonderful spiritual events (2 miracles in fact - 1 documented by dental x-rays). I see tons of fallacies with religion - very sad.
- Susan Beebe
Akiva - ethnic nationalist ideologies -- particularly messianic ethnic nationalist ideologies -- are by definition exclusionary, polarizing and a trigger of violent conflict with ethnic outsiders. Universalist religions like Christianity, Islam and Buddhism are largely attempts to overcome the problems and limitations of ethnic nationalism.
- Sean McBride
On my good days I'm an agnostic, my bad days an atheist. On the whole all religions try to describe the same thing, make sense of our world and how we should conduct ourselves. I remember being at my Grandmother's funeral (Catholic) and thinking that the words (return to Christ etc) were so comforting ... and it was then that I thought they were wrong. Those words are designed to be comforting and that was by human design IMO. Seek god in your own way and live accordingly - see Stranger in a Strange Land.
- AJ Kohn
Where do you get those statistics that geeks are typically athiest? Faith takes courage and conviction. I am a Christian as are many of the riders I know.
- Dave Ploch
Sean, last I checked, 'universalism' isn't achieved by oppression, forced conversions, or the outright murdering of people of differing beliefs. Furthermore, Buddhism shouldn't be grouped with Islam and Christianity because Buddhism isn't a proselytizing religion. In fact, I would say that Buddhism and Judaism are more universalist than Christianity and Islam for this very reason. They say, 'You do your thing and we'll do ours.' Not, 'You do our thing or we're coming after you.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Faith mentality: don't question me, don't challenge me, believe and do what I say. Hacker mentality: question everything, challenge everything. Guess which mindset produces the more interesting creative work.
- Sean McBride
Akiva: Judaism (especially in its Zionist mode) is an ethnic nationalist ideology or cult organized around the interests of a particular ethnic group. Ethnic nationalism is the direct antithesis of universalism. Buddhism bears little meaningful resemblance to Judaism or religious Zionism. Christianity and Islam have committed many crimes over the ages, that is true. Aggressive fanaticism and intolerance seem to be central features of nearly all monotheistic/Abrahamic cults.
- Sean McBride
I don't want to seem ignorant or prejudiced, but is Judaism not highly non-universalist? Laws against marrying non-Jews etc.
- Alexander Carlill
Alexander, the best way I can put it is how a Rabbi once put it to me: 'It's better to be a righteous non-Jew than to be a non-righteous Jew.' In other words, Judaism prefers people to follow a different religion that is better suited to them rather than be forced to become Jewish. To me, that's more universal. Live and let live.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sean, and there it is. I'm ringing the bell.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Alexander: Judaism is intensely ethnocentric at the core, but various currents in the Jewish tradition have tried to move in a more universalist direction -- Reform Judaism, Reconstructionist Judaism, secular Jewish movements (how about Einstein?), etc. Notice how much of the Old Testament revolves around wars between "Israel" and other ethnic/nationalist groups ("the nations") -- it's the dominant motif of much of the Bible.
- Sean McBride
Akiva: I see. I'm going to stick with atheism for the foreseeable future, but I think I'm relatively righteous... Thanks for the info.
- Alexander Carlill
Alexander, oops, yep. I should've written 'a different religion, agnosticism, or atheism.' I did not in any way mean to imply that only religious people can be righteous. The two, sadly, are sometimes mutually exclusive which is something Judaism seeks to avoid.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- to which branch of Judaism are you referring? Some factions are incredibly intolerant; others are the soul of tolerance. Some of Israel's chief rabbis have made public statements that are extremely intolerant towards various ethnic and religious groups (including towards other Jewish religious factions). One finds the same problems in the Christian and Muslims worlds -- fundamentalist voices of intolerance often drown out more reasonable voices. See, for instance, John Hagee on Roman Catholicism.
- Sean McBride
Sean, how about not hijacking this post to yet again aggressively espouse your opinions on Judaism (and Israel)?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- has the discussion suddenly become too sensitive for you in some way? You sound like you'd like to censor it. Let me ask again: which branch of Judaism are you referring to here? Orthodox? Conservative? Reform? Reconstructionist? Seems like a perfectly reasonable question. Also, a great deal of Christian fundamentalism in America revolves around Israel, does it not? Bush reportedly started a disastrous war in Iraq largely because of his religious beliefs. Iran may be next.
- Sean McBride
Sean, it's very clear that you have a bone to pick and you can chase me around FriendFeed until your Keds fall apart but I am not going to feed your hunger. Thus, reasonable or not, I am not answering your questions. You seem only to be interested in answers that can fuel your soapbox, anyway. If this makes you feel superior or victorious, that's fine. That's a delusion I will lose no sleep over.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- you haven't replied in a rational way to a single particular point I've raised here -- your responses have been emotional. And this is very typical behavior for religionists of all kinds -- they have difficulty handling a rational discussion about non-rational beliefs. Judaism is a very complex subject -- the tradition includes numerous competing and contradictory factions. Overgeneralizing about Judaism, Christianity and Islam is an intellectual error, in my opinion.
- Sean McBride
Actually, my responses have been very rational. I'm just addressing your motives and not your points. You just can't seem to understand the fact that you are not entitled to someone's answers just because you ask them questions.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- you're addressing motives, and not the substantive points being addressed in this thread? That is not how reasonable people conduct rational discussions and debates. If you can't handle logical, factual and civil challenges to your beliefs, probably public discussion forums aren't a favorable medium for you. :) For others here, I will simply reiterate: there are several strains of Judaism, some extremely intolerant, some very tolerant. This is a fact known to any serious student of world religions.
- Sean McBride
Ah, more smug responses with implied insults. Gotta love the Internet.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- a simple question: is Judaism a monolithic tradition (as you have implied), or is it a diverse and self-contradictory tradition? Do the ultra-Orthodox agree with Reform Jews? Do the ultra-Orthodox even agree with one another? (They do not.) No wonder geeks and hackers for the most part try to steer clear of religious squabbling and wars! -- it tends to be a real energy-waster.
- Sean McBride
Akiva: I wasn't accusing you of implying anything, merely commenting on my own situation. So no need to apologise.
- Alexander Carlill
Jack: but neither does twitter, and geeks love that.
- Alexander Carlill
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