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I think it's cool, just not $250 cool.
- Rodfather
Think of it this way, wouldn't you like Instagram, 360 Panorama, iMovie, and a 3G connection on your DSLR? You can make a quick and dirty movie and share it right away.
- Rodfather
I have a friend who would actually really dig this. (He's a professional photographer too.) He just wouldn't be interested in it for that price point.
- SAM
If someone really needs to carry a $3000 lens around, why wouldn't he just carry a camera as well? It looks good but of no use.
- Faraz Mullick
I don't think a person would be limited to using it with $3000 lens, what Rodfather said is a good use case, and some people appreciate the novelty. Of no use to you would be reasonable.
- SAM
Hooking up a SLR lens to an iPhone and calling it a DSLR is a bit like sticking a prancing horse logo on a Fiat 500 and calling it a Ferrari.
- Brian Sullivan
Who called it a DSLR? It's a lens mount.
- Rodfather
Other than the price, what is the actual objection to this product?
- Bren
from iPhone
Rodfather- I thought that was implicit in your earlier comment.
- Brian Sullivan
No, you're tripping. I wouldn't mind having an OS in a DLSR.
- Rodfather
As the owner of a 6MP DSLR, I don't really see what's ridiculous about 5MP pictures through a good lens.
- Bruce Lewis
Rodfather -- so your comment earlier has nothing to do with this product -- you were just daydreaming about a product that you wish existed?
- Brian Sullivan
It says exactly what it says. Why such much hate? There's even a group that makes movies on the iPhone only. For them, it would be a cool addition. You can use lenses you have sitting around and make a movie with different lenses. What's so horrible about that?
- Rodfather
Bruce -- adding a big lens to a 5MP iPhone does not turn it into the equivalent of a 5MP DSLR -- not even close. Size in MP matters a lot less than size of sensor -- and iPhone's sensor is very small.
- Brian Sullivan
Rodfather - no hate implied -- at least not to you. I just think the product is ridiculous.
- Brian Sullivan
No answer to my question? Okay.
- Bren
from iPhone
Bren - to me seems to a solution looking for a problem -- it is technology for technology's sake -- -- just because it is possible to do something it doesn't always make sense to make and try to sell a product that does it.
- Brian Sullivan
I think Rod has already made a compelling argument against that, Brian. Maybe it's just me, but your vitriol for this product seems disproportionate to your stated complaint about the product. As I understand it, the only problem (aside from price) is that *you* don't have a use for it.
- Bren
from iPhone
I see it as just a lens mount. That's it. On a side note, this reminds me when people started making adapters for consumer video cameras to mount 35mm lenses. This was huge. Only around 4 years ago too. That was the first time people could use interchangeable lenses on a relatively cheap video camera. It opened up so much more possibilities for students and indie filmmakers. Now that...
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- Rodfather
Bren - not sure it was intended as vitrol or should be characterized as such, I don't know how else I can assess and present a point of view except as well .. my point of view. I definitely have no use for this product (or for an iPhone for that matter)
- Brian Sullivan
"ridiculous department of idiocy" struck me as fairly vitriolic for a product that is, in reality, simply not useful to you. Again, maybe that's just me.
- Bren
from iPhone
The Droid does not seem to mind losing the phone number. I have a few uses for it.
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
As a verizon customer, I keep my unlimited data plan.
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
I already had an apple ID, from testing the corporate ipad. Exchange setup is simple. Happy to have exchange contacts sorted by last name.
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
Apps load slow off of 3g. A few minutes for foursquare and evermore. Headed with my wife to wall mart because best buy did not have a holster
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
It's easier to use friendfeed on the iphone. To be safe, to not start arguments, I think the snapdragon processor is faster than the iphone 4's I have to block that out. Safari seems much slower than dolphin. The battery is not wowing me. I will upload a screenshot later. Hey, I can do screenshots without jumping through hoops.
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
OK, the slow safari was just a strange anomaly. Well it was just strange. All is well now. It's about the same speed as the Droid.
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
Finally got around to connecting the iphone to my laptop. Setup the free Mobile Me "Find My Phone" account. Amazed that it was free. Still have not synched 1 mp3 to it. the phone does its job, I am happy with it. Battery is working fine .Unless I take a lot of pics or video I will only need to charge it at night.
- Mike Nencetti
I finally tested Google Voice. (busy week) The first attempt failed, but the second test worked. The first attempt a lady answered and said "we will try to locate Mike Nencetti on Google Voice" - or something like that. The voice-mail was blank. The second test my voice-mail messages kicked in and I received my gmail transcript.
- Mike Nencetti
I have my work and personal laptops within reach at all times when I'm at home. I do more work up here in our bed than I do downstairs in my office.
- DB Botts - Just DB Botts
We have one on each side of the bed and two at the couch. Totally normal. :)
- Carmen wBabby
I guess I'm the abnormal one. No tech at bedside, I leave it behind in the other room when it's time. But I can fall asleep within 3 minutes of closing my eyes, and sleep soundly without risk of distraction.
- Tinfoil 2.0
110V outlets in the mattress, that's what I'm talkin' about.
- Micah
I'm using a OLPC as a tray/stand for the MacBook Air.
- Rodfather
I use InstaPaper on my iPod Touch - because the we only have #nearlynet in NZ - wifi isn't everywhere, and often costs. MobileSafari tends to reload a page you leave open when you switch tabs, incurring more data charges or requiring a net connection to continue reading an article or page online. Flat rate connectivity isn't a reality in New Zealand - every bit costs - so a local cache...
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- Jo Booth
I've used both. Evernote I use because I also have the firefox extension installed so i can access all my notes in either application. Instamapper, I don't see a reason for most people to use unless some 3rd party make some great app to take advantage of their data. I only use it to program and play with the raw API data they provide
- brendan
Tweetie integration is the big win on Instapaper for the iPhone.
- Bill Sodeman
i do. instapaper's offline feature is as of yet unmatched by evernote for iphone. it loads fast and remembers your position in a document. i think the two companies should work together to integrate much like tweetie has done with instapaper.
- pendolino
Evernote has some cool features, take a picture of something with text and it can search and find the text in the image, Instapaper is good for when you come across a story you want to read but don't have time, you send the link to it and when you have time you go to your repository and read the stories you saved and it marks them read and removes them from the list. It's bookmarking with a specific purpose.
- Brian
What are the differences between these services?
- Vezquex
I use evernote as a reference and a second brain and Instapaper for articles I just want to read at a later date
- Simon Tracey
evernote is my outsourced brain (archive) and instapaper my todolist.
- denise
"Know what's amazing about this whole Charlie Sheen fiasco? That no one who actually watches Two and a Half Men seems to give a shit that it may never come back. Usually, when the future of a TV show is in doubt, you get fanboys waging massive grass roots campaigns to keep the show going. They send bags of pistachios to the studio, because the main character liked pistachios or something. And that's for shows that no one even watches. But here's the number one comedy on television, and it's been number one for years now, and I'm not even sure people who like that show have even fucking noticed."
- Jessie
from Bookmarklet
"The show resides in the same neighborhood as Leno and Idol, ambient programming that people watch because it just happens to be on. You can air reruns of Sheen's show for ages and the audience won't even notice. In fact, it was still in the Top 20 last week. People like Two and a Half Men, but no one seems to actually CARE about it. If Fringe gets canceled tomorrow (and it probably...
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- Jessie
"It's kind of amazing, that something could become so popular without ever being loved. And it makes you wonder: If the show is so eminently disposable, why don't they replace Sheen? And why did they pay him so much goddamn money to begin with?"
- Jessie
As one previously-rabid fan of this show, I tolerated the sexual jokes only so far. Even before the Charlie Sheen fiasco, I was ready to ditch the show as it had become a home for adolescent humour...and not much else.
- Bubba Botts
Agreed. It's neither original nor funny. It's not even interesting enough to leave on as background noise.
- Jessie
I vaguely remember there being some funny lines in it when I watched an episode 2 or 3 years ago.
- Bruce Lewis
The only time I watched was when it was background noise. I only paid attention when that girl from Heavenly Creatures was on.
- Rodfather
Ooooh I like her too! If she had more screen time I probably would have watched the show more.
- Jessie
I watched one or two episodes way back when it happened to be on and never understood the appeal.
- ronin
from iPhone
I have tried so many times to watch this show. I actually can't stand Sheen's character and found the kid and the housekeeper to be the entertaining ones. But only mildly. I figured it was just me, because sitcoms nowadays just don't catch my attention much. Glad to hear that I'm not alone with this one.
- Hookuh Tinypants
This is the flip side of really niche shows like Jericho, Firefly, Veronica Mars, etc, that have small but extremely invested fanbases. Too bad networks would rather have large numbers of disinterested people than smaller numbers of passionate people.
- Jandy
Two and a Half Men sucks rocks. It's a terrible show, always has been a terrible show, and even without Sheen it will continue to be a terrible show. The fact that nobody really cares about it is because the people who watch it are mindless sheep that are only interested in a cheap short laugh, not people who actually enjoy television as a medium for engaging stories. Sadly, we have a...
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- Otto
What Jandy said. Note the common thread among those shows, btw. They are not merely lowest common denominator dramas or sitcoms. Basically, any show that makes you think, even it's just to get the joke, is doomed.
- The original Kevin
This show was on when I got home from work last night. My roommate said she was watching the show before it and just left the TV on. I think this is how most people watch Two and a Half Men.
- Jessie
"Chuck Lorre is a hack." An immensely successful hack, but yeah. And it pains me that BBT has more nerd followers than actual nerd-friendly shows like Community.
- Andrew C (✓)
The problem with "Community" is that it's not funny and has terrible acting. BBT actually does have decent acting, but the jokes are lame laugh-track nonsense. Jim Parsons and Johnny Galecki are both fairly decent actors, as is Kaley Cuoco.
- Otto
Community is the smartest and funniest sitcom around.
- Andrew C (✓)
from Android
Gotta disagree with you, Otto (and agree with Andrew). No sitcom has made me laugh or care as much as Community since Arrested Development. (Party Down is up there, too, now that I'm catching up with that.) I'm usually falling off the couch laughing by the end of the teaser - the whole cast's comic timing is impeccable. And not hampered by laugh tracks.
- Jandy
I really like Community, and I barely watch television. I give them props for going against the grain and at least trying new things, but that's solely my opinion. If you don't like it, don't watch it, I guess.
- Derrick
Jandy: IMO, the few episodes of Arrested Development I watched were among the worst pieces of crap I've ever seen on television. So yeah, I think we have different tastes and/or senses of humor.
- Otto
Clearly, Otto. Out of curiosity, if Arrested Development and Community aren't funny to you, and Two and a Half Men and Big Bang Theory are terrible, what shows (or films) do you find funny?
- Jandy
I don't watch a lot of comedy shows anymore. I like Chuck. I do watch BBT, although I often groan at the writing. But 90% of the comedy I watch is animated. Archer, Simpsons, Adult Swim stuff like The Venture Brothers, Family Guy, Robot Chicken and new Futurama eps if and when. Last comedy film I saw was The Hangover and while it had its moments, I don't much care for Zach Galifianakis....
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- Otto
Hatin' on Arrested Development *and* Community. Hm. Excuse me, Otto? Would you mind standing next to this tar-covered pole on top of all this dry kindling? I know the footing is a little unstable, let me just attach these ropes so you don't fall. ... Oh, this? I think torchlight is romantic!
- Roger Benningfield
I could never figure out the Two and a Half Men appear. I guess the kid had his moments? Charlie Sheen being a character named Charlie who was a poon hound was a nice bit of performance art? Who knows? I enjoy How I Met Your Mother a lot, but I know it's a by the numbers sitcom. I can see why people like Big Bang Theory. Both BBT and HIMYM have followings, and howls of protest if they were pulled off. It could be there isn't a larger protest for 2.5 Men is because that show has run its course.
- Mike Nayyar
I just want to say that this is a great thread, and I'm just leaving a comment on it so it will pop up for me if anyone else says anything. And another vote for Arrested Development here. I dismissed it as stupid when I saw the pilot, then found it again many years later on DVD and was converted. Arrested Development is not even in the same universe as a by-the-numbers sitcom.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
RT @digiphile: @RWW I suspect @FakeGrimlock to be from FakeCybertron, where IT folks are apparently in such short supply that FakeDinoBots are so employed.
"That's the bold claim made by the folks behind these so-called "Eyez," at least, which unsurprisingly seem to be filled more with vapor than any actual hardware at the moment. If the company is to be believed, however, they'll eventually pack a built-in camera that's able to record 1080p video, 16GB of flash memory, WiFi and Bluetooth connectivity, and a 350 mAh lithium ion battery that promises three hours of recording on a charge."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
Of course they are. You don't remain competitive by being overly confident.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Dang. I was going to "like" ronin's comment. :)
- Louis Gray
I don't think they're overly confident. I just don't think they care as much as Droidies want them to. Especially when it comes to the sheer numbers metric.
- ronin
I don't think Jobs cares about the numbers, he knows the market. What he should care about is what they are doing to take away his UI/packaging advantage. His team has to keep abreast of the work being done to make Android better so they can leapfrog that. They also have to worry about HP and RIMM at the same time.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Just like Apple disrupted everyone else, Jobs knows it can be done to them as well.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I would think they'll be more worried when 99% of the competition isn't rushing to copy what they're doing.
- Patrick Jordan
Sure, Apple & Jobs most likely do care about (and keep tabs on) the competition. And I doubt they're just sitting on their great big pile of cash like fat cats while casting nervous glances over their shoulder. I'm just always amused when pundits make it sound like Apple & Co. are passing every waking moment wringing their hands or are waking up in cold sweats because of Android. I'm pretty sure they're nowhere near that level of anxiety.
- ronin
We know Jobs is concerned because he even bothers to mention Android. Is he waking up in cold sweats? Probably not. What's more interesting about the mobile market copying Apple is the fact that the copycats are grabbing the consumers Apple doesn't care about.
- Rah-PM 2012
The ones that want to be able to use their mobile device without a computer as a requirement. The ones that don't have any interest in being tied to the iTunes Store. Primarily, the ones that aren't going to spend $600 for a new phone or tablet.
- Rah-PM 2012
Fair enough. Though if they want a tablet, they won't be finding any less expensive options than Apple's just now.
- Patrick Jordan
There are quite a few Android tablets less expensive than the iPad, actually. The Samsung Galaxy tab comes to mind.
- Rah-PM 2012
You have to think about the individual components that make up a device too. Apple does have an advantage at this point in time for packing in a lot hardware for the money. Not too many companies can make bulk orders of parts costing billions of dollars. Apple can get away with it since they know they can sell the inventory. Competition is good. What's nice with other devices is different sizes and options.
- Rodfather
I was under the impression that the cheap Android tablets are cheap for a reason. Rodfather can probably attest to that when he dabbled with the Viewsonic for a while. And the Tab when it came out was comparably priced to the equivalent storage-sized iPad I think. It's cheaper now cause nobody's buying it. ;-p
- ronin
Heh the Viewsonic was a mess, but mostly for badly implemented software. It's an odd mix. It has a very fast nVidia Tegra2, which is being found in the latest Android tablets. Yet, the screen was crap. The capacitive touch was crap. Something like the Nook Color is fantastic IMO. The processor isn't the fastest, but fast enough to work well. It has a nice screen and is small. It's only $200.
- Rodfather
The other thing to remember is that each consumer is different. For every one thinking a cheaper Android tablet is crap, there is one thinking they just wasted $600 on an iOS device that doesn't do what they need. The trade-offs are more important than you might think.
- Rah-PM 2012
I spent a lot of cash for both the iPad and Galaxy Tab. Each do different things well. I carry around the Galaxy Tab since it's small and the apps are very useful to me for day-to-day stuff. It doesn't diminish the iPad's value for me. I like the games and cool apps. It would still be difficult to decide between the two if I had to keep one, but honestly, I don't really need either.
- Rodfather
Apple always handicaps itself with its fascist approach to user interfaces. Android will easily best Apple in the smartphone and tablet markets. Watch and see.
- Sean McBride
Do you need a computer for an iPod Touch experience? It has iTunes and the App Store on it.
- Andrew C (✓)
I think an iPod Touch still needs iTunes at startup, and definitely if you want OS upgrades.
- Victor Ganata
Here's the problem with the 30%. My local paper advertises it has an app. I download the app, but there's no where to subscribe within the app. Apple didn't bring "me" to them. Their own add did, but I still want to subscribe within the app.
- Stephen Pickering
I think it's fair not to use Twitter in a product name but Tweet doesn't seem right. Tweetie Bird was a favorite character of mine : )
- Matt Terenzio
Stephen: AMazon isn't a Silicon Valley company. Microsoft falls into the same bucket of why they weren't invited to John Doerr's house.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter for a long time took many of their features away from the users, under the guise of being lame when it was in fact a powerplay.
- Aron Michalski
But Kindle is a retailer itself, not a wholesaler, so if it gives 30% it will lose all of its margin
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: exactly. If you are a shopping mall you don't allow other people to built new malls in your building.
- Robert Scoble
Buying from Amazon outside the Apple world is fine, except for video,which is not Appleriffic.
- Aron Michalski
There's no question that Apple has the "right" to do this, we're just saying they shouldn't. It's going to open the door to competition. Amazon is a worthy competitor.
- Stephen Pickering
ustream ads are killing me, hope steve gets a cut.
- Paul E. Ester
Paul he gets paid in free distribution and bandwidth. :-)
- Stephen Pickering
Well, as long as none of us create content, we'll be fine.
- Aron Michalski
Steve should go back to the 5 minute ad at the start of the show, to pay for his daughters college education :)
- Jamie
The publishers have political clout, app developers don't...
- cliveb
Why doesn't Toyota take 30% of my mall purchases, since its car took me to the mall?
- Stephen Pickering
How many secure and user-friendly "store" platforms are there anyway? Google's, Amazon's, Apple's? The question is which one does a developer use and how much of a cut they hand over? Kindle could still work with Apple iOS. Apple users could use Amazon's shopping platform and Apple could ask for a more reasonable referral fee of under 10%.
- Alex de Soto
Don't worry, as unions are crushed and regulation is eliminated, the market will sort it out; we'll never have to pay an upcharge because we're Americans and they love us.
- Aron Michalski
Stephen: funny argument, but Toyota has no leverage there. If it could convince every other car company to charge, maybe.
- Robert Scoble
(of course we're listening to people who have multiple iPads in their home, and there are still a few households worldwide who don't have one yet...)
- Aron Michalski
Apparently Apple is pissing off at least one publisher.
- Jim Posner
Jim: which one? Have they pulled down their iOS apps yet?
- Robert Scoble
The problem is that just because you subscribe within the app doesn't mean that Apple has actually brought you to the product.
- Stephen Pickering
Using the Kindle app on the iPod touch avoids the 30% for Apple...
- Aron Michalski
Jim: and he's not a publisher that charges money.
- Robert Scoble
It doesn't look like they're going to remove their offerings, and publishers are hoping to get the Feds involved.
- coldbrew
I agree that if Apple causes the sale they should get that or even more, but just because that you buy within the app doesn't mean that.
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: when they did the suggested user list. That pissed off lots of us. Then they picked certain clients and made them god and pissed off lots of developers.
- Robert Scoble
How about this: Amazon raises the typical $9.99 Kindle book price to $11.98 on Apple iOS and $10.98 on Google. $9.99 on Amazon. Buyers choice!
- Alex de Soto
Oh, I hi Nick! I love this chat room. I guess that means that Twitter will buy DataSift. (My thesis)
- Robert Scoble
robert: no they are not - they would like to - but wont get a part
- Nick Halstead
Nick: can I use DataSift on the folks I'm following yet?
- Robert Scoble
hornOKplease just tweeted: @scobleizer alex payne had a post that said that at this point twitter devs are either a) twitter partners or b) hobbyists. no middle ground
- Robert Scoble
just seems data mining/ event-pattern recognition is a logical area for twitter to grow
- Jim Posner
robert: yes - wait for ver 0.9 coming out early next week - lots of amazing new things - including real-time storage - you can keep every tweet you want.
- Nick Halstead
I thought Halstead was bringing Track back?
- coldbrew
twitter is sitting on a massive real time database that they have yet to monetize or have the tools to monetize.
- Jim Posner
Halstead: I'm glad you've not been afriad to play in their sandbox. But, I guess that means you think ubermedia was in the wrong today (they weren't, imo)?
- coldbrew
Is there still a need to consider text with Twitter?
- Aron Michalski
Nick when are going to get some wysiwyg tools for DataSift? throw us non developers a bone.
- Jim Posner
from @stop: One fresh pull of data using Twitter/iPhone is almost 300k of data. Int'l pay-per-use is $.0195/Kb. That would be almost USD$6.00 per pull!
- Kevin Marks
social search is pointless - the fact is search will be replaced with 'follow' - by interest graphs
- Nick Halstead
Nick: I'm really happy I'll be able to do DataSift on the folks I'm following. That makes it MUCH more useful!
- Robert Scoble
so overseas data is about $15-19 a meg while a text will be .50 to .75 cents. Mobile Realtime is a rich man's luxury once you cross the border.
- Aron Michalski
Jamie, Robert, Stephen: Sorry had to walk away for a sec. I guess that's right. Not pricing fixing in the true sense. I guess Apple will remain an exclusive mall with a lot of customers with deep pockets. Publishers will want to be in that "mall" for sure just like some stores want to be on Rodeo drive regardless of the rent.
- Alex de Soto
deck.ly takes +140 chars into a separate database...and linksto it appaer as "More"
- dlature
dlature: doesn't TwitLonger do the same thing?
- Robert Scoble
So what dlature? Doesn't that save some people from having to write a blog post?
- Matt Terenzio
ran into it b/c Tweetdeck kinda forced me to
- dlature
jim: thanks, we will start inviting more people soon, we only have 500 invited into Alpha currently, but have 10's thousands on the invite list ready to rock.
- Nick Halstead
matt, I don't neccessarily have a problemwith it...lot of tweeters don't like it...I can see its uses
- dlature
not the same as ad conversion, I don't think
- Richard
Tell me you are not more apt to click on a SERP with a friends pic/name in it? CTR will be higher even if lower, but not on the bottom.
- Kevin Mullett
Richard: They write lots of stuff over there with opinions and a few facts from being freinds with so many of the value. Most of their interpretations seem to be worthless.
- coldbrew
Nick-any interest in data visualization (heat maps) on the live DataSift streams?
- Jim Posner
someone mention Watson..big story that happened this week
- Jim Posner
Hmm. I thought most tech people had highly curated host files, no?
- coldbrew
Robert, Why can't Josh see it? Did he block you or vice versa? hehehehehehehehhehehe
- Stephen Pickering
Even though I don't click on the ads, I might subconsciously see them. R . A. C. K. S. P. A. C. E
- John Taschek
It's so easy to go from a link on Google SERP to a Web page that offers to FB "Like" your brand so that in seconds you're on Facebook learning about the brand from real people. That's powerful!
- Alex de Soto