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I haven't used Reader for several months but I feel that Google aren't replacing it with something significantly better... and thus the rage
Benny Bucko <Team Melly>, manielse (Mark Nielsen), John (bird whisperer) and 2 other people liked this
They want "real"-name engagement on Google+. But that's a completely different experience and purpose.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Exactly. If there was a high-quality alternative Google product to move to, then the rage is easily deflected... but when your option is a less-than shoehorning into their fancypants new service, the rage will go unfettered
- Johnny
from iPhone
I'm open to alternative reader suggestions!!!
- Headless Gnad Kicker
Cheese Enchiladas
WoH: Professor MOTHRA, JA Castillo, Kisha and 50 other people liked this
My first time making these Tex-Mex style cheese enchiladas and onions with a chili gravy (from scratch!) but it couldn't have been easier. Can't wait to dig in.
- Derrick
Yummy!
- Anne Bouey
Oh damn, they are NOM.
- Derrick
Come to San Jose and cook me dinner? Purty please?
- EricaJoy
Yes :)
- Michael W. May
I love the bay area, EJ. Just sayin' ;) MWM, I *finally* made them. I hope I enjoy them as much as you enjoyed yours, my friend.
- Derrick
your feed always makes me hungry!
- Neya
*bump* for JA.
- Derrick
The recipe: http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2007...
- Derrick
omggggg :-)
- کاوه
ZOMG...why you gotta front like that?! Good thing I already had dinner! :P
- JA Castillo
Enchilada bump. I need to make these again soon.
- Derrick
stoppit
- MoTO #TeamMonique
My oven gets fixed tomorrow. Then get the hell out of the way.
- Derrick
WANT.
- LB: #TeamMonique
liking again
- Michael W. May
why can't I like this again?!?!
- holly #ravingfangirl
Damn, those are made with LARD. I bet those are amazing.
- Trish R
move back to LA so you can invite me over. Or, wait, I'll just move there. Or, even better, I'll invent teleportation! Enchiladas inspire innovation.
- Jason Toney
This is almost a year ago! Dang!
- Derrick
WANT! NAO!
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
from Android
It has been decided: I'm making these for us for dinner tomorrow night. Pretty sure I'll halve the recipe, however.
- Akiva
But if you do the whole recipe you can use the leftovers in scrambled eggs over the weekend! Super yum!
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
from Android
That is a lot of enchiladas for two peopLe. Wonder if they'd freeze.
- Akiva
I bet they would, Akiva. Maybe make them in two 8x8 pans?
- Derrick
Let us know, Akiva! I want to know how the tortillas hold up in the freezer.
- LB: #TeamMonique
If you reheat them in the microwave with a wet paper towel, they SHOULD rehydrate. Theoretically.
- Akiva
I made these 2 days ago and froze the leftovers in individual serving containers. I'm going to heat one up for lunch today.
- Trish R
DANG IT. This makes me hungry every time it's bumped.
- LB: #TeamMonique
Trish, I expect a full report. IN TRIPLICATE.
- Akiva
Dear Derrick: I am pining for your enchiladas. And a hug. And perhaps a margarita, but definitely the enchiladas & hug.<3, Warmaiden
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
Oh shit. What a genius idea. I should buy the elements I need to build margaritas to go along with tonight's dinner.
- Akiva
You should make charro beans, too. They're really good alongside them. http://recipeland.com/recipe...
- Trish R
Except that charro beans have meat in them.
- Akiva
I make them without meat. Just leave out the bacon.
- Trish R
I may take you up on this. I've just found that recipes that require dropping bacon tend to produce unsatisfactory vegetarian versions. Have you ever had a good BLT without the bacon? DIDN'T THINK SO, TRISH. DIDN'T THINK SO.
- Akiva
That makes sense but I didn't miss it. I also used a can of Ro-tel instead of the fresh tomatoes because I"m lazy. I thought it was good.
- Trish R
Actually, Rotel [and don't tell Rochelle but Bacon Salt] might be good replacements. The Rotel will add more substance [and don't tell Rochelle but the Bacon Salt would add, well, bacon-y goodness].
- Akiva
HOLD DA PHONE. I just closely examined Derrick's recipe: CORN TORTILLAS? WTF IS THIS ATROCITY
- Akiva
FYI: They're just as delicious reheated after being frozen. Not dry at all using the microwave.
- Trish R
These are so good.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
Bump.
- Derrick
Gimmeh.
- RepoRat
Trying to like again.
- Micah
So, are these THE enchiladas? Or just really yummy looking ones?
- Jennifer Dittrich
I may have to try these.
- John (bird whisperer)
Dang. Every time these pop up in my feed.
- Derrick
Bump.
- Derrick
Thanks Derrick!
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
:)
- Derrick
I wanted to like this again.
- Akiva
^ Haha. Me too!
- c.a.j.
I made these for my mom several months ago. She just asked for the recipe so she can make them for a New Years party.
- Rochelle
The creepy but definitive list of FriendFeed employees and where they work now. UPDATE: As of October 2, 2012, *three* still work at Facebook.
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rebaz, Occam's Toilet Brush, Taras Brizitsky and 107 other people liked this
With Paul's departure from Facebook today (November 12, 2010), I've heard several FFers talk about who's still at Facebook. I've seen various different numbers, none of which I think are accurate. This is my attempt to be more accurate. Information comes from publicly available sources where available. I drew on the list of FF employees from http://friendfeed.com/about... and http://blog.friendfeed.com/.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Ana Yang http://friendfeed.com/ana: No longer at Facebook (see Tudor B.'s comment from 9/20/2012 below). Formerly Places Product Manager at Facebook (see http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Ben Darnell http://friendfeed.com/bdarnell: DropBox (per Tudor Bosman below, updated 5/22/2012). Previously AOL (Brizzly until their acquisition by AOL in September, see http://friendfeed.com/bdarnel...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Ben Golub http://friendfeed.com/bgolub: Software Engineer at Facebook (see http://www.linkedin.com/in...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Bret Taylor http://friendfeed.com/bret: Was previously CTO of Facebook (see FF profile). On June 15, announced he was leaving: https://www.facebook.com/btaylor... -- but no current position announced as of September 13, 2012.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Casey Muller http://friendfeed.com/casey: Unknown. Per Tudor on 10/2/1012, no longer at Facebook, confirmed by Casey's FB page listing "formerly" there (see http://www.facebook.com/caseymr...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Dan Hsiao http://friendfeed.com/dhsiao: Unknown. Per Tudor on 5/22/2012, he is no longer at Facebook (see comment below). Previously was Program Manager at Facebook (see bio of twitter feed, http://twitter.com/danhsiao).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Gary Burd http://friendfeed.com/gburd: Managing Director at BeagleDreams per his Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/gburd); it previously said he left Facebook in October of 2009.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Goutham Patnaik http://friendfeed.com/gpatnaik (private feed): Google. Summer intern, left on 9/18/2009 (see http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...). Update 5/22/2012: Per below, now at Google. I previously listed him as "unknown."
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Jim Norris http://friendfeed.com/jim: AeroFS per his mom (comment below). His FB page is http://www.facebook.com/james... (updated 5/22/2012)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Kevin Fox http://friendfeed.com/kfury: Electric Imp (see http://friendfeed.com/kfury...). Previously Mozilla Labs. Kevin left Facebook in May of 2010 (see below) and announced on 10/27/2010 that he joined Mozilla Labs (see http://friendfeed.com/kfury...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Paul Buchheit http://friendfeed.com/paul: Y-Combinator as of 11/12/2010 (see http://friendfeed.com/paul...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Ross Miller http://friendfeed.com/ross: Taylor Engineering in Alameda per his Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/ross...). (Ross was a two-time intern at FF.)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Sanjeev Singh http://friendfeed.com/sanjeev: Facebook (see http://www.facebook.com/jeev).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Tudor Bosman http://friendfeed.com/tudor: Software Engineer at Facebook (see http://www.linkedin.com/in...).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Overall status as of November 2010: Of the 14 people who were ever FriendFeed employees, 8 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Bret T., Casey M., Dan H., Jim N., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), 5 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Gary B., Kevin F., Paul B., Ross M.), and 1 is unknown (Goutham P.).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I will update the above if I hear news.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Technically my first day at Mozilla isn't until Monday. :-)
- Kevin Fox
I will also remove this if any FF employees think it's too creepy. :)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Ross Miller's account: http://friendfeed.com/ross
- Rochelle
You are both thorough and scary :)
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
KLevin, tehcnically, this is your last day here and your not part of the FF team !
- Peter Dawson
Me too, Geoff.
- Kevin Fox
Thanks Rochelle, updated! Kevin F., edited now, thanks. :)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Peter, what? Today is my last day where? And I left Facebook (and the FF team) back in May.
- Kevin Fox
Goutham - http://friendfeed.com/gpatnaik
- Rochelle
Of those still left at FB, I only see Tudor and Ben who are still active here and have contributed to FF fixes since the buyout.
- Rodfather
Kevin mea culpa .. now i remember you want on a summer sabbatical !
- Peter Dawson
No worries. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Rodfather, I'm not active here?
- Kevin Fox
Of those still left at FB. ;)
- Rodfather
I love the iFly photo of us. We are a great big arm rainbow!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Yeah, Paul and April were missing from that picture because that was the day Thomas was born!
- Kevin Fox
Rod: Oops, my bad. I saw 'left FB' and missed the 'at'.
- Kevin Fox
Wild AND Crazy
- Eric - seven eleven
OK, took some editing but I think the above is accurate. If anyone knows where Ross M. or Goutham P. are now, please let me know!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Many thanks to people who provided info, especially Rochelle.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Rachel: That's definitely an awesome pic. I had a hard time choosing, you guys had a lot of great events.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Wow that is a great list I should probably try an add a few people. FriendFeed very good micro blogging, thanks.
- Robert Bridge
Thanks Robert! Updated Ross's employer with information Anne B. found on his Facebook page.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
He made them an offer that they could eventually refuse?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
*snicker*
- Hieronymous Boosh
Bump in honor of today's FB IPO. Time to do more creepy digging to see what's up with the FF team!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Updated Gary's entry.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Updated Jim's entry. He's apparently left Facebook. (I think I remember him confirming this when I had lunch with him last month!)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Updated Kevin's entry.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Overall status as of May 2012: Of the 14 people who were ever FriendFeed employees, 7 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Bret T., Casey M., Dan H., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), 6 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B., Ross M.), and 1 is unknown (Goutham P.).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, Goutham worked at RockYou for a bit in 2010 and now works for Google. Also, how have I not seen this thread before?! I remember you taking that picture at Kitchen Table - fun times :)
- Ross Miller
now this is creepy.. some1 is stalking all the former employees of FF :)-
- Peter Dawson
Peter, I wonder who? Ross, thanks!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
Jim is now at AeroFS.
- Anne Bouey
Stephen, also Goutham was a summer intern the year before the Facebook buy. He did not transfer to Facebook. Ross did you transfer to Facebook, I can't remember.
- Rachel Lea Fox
oh and I think Ben D. has left AOL. But I can't confirm that, I just seem to remember something about that. *shrug*
- Rachel Lea Fox
Anne, AeroFS looks cool! Congrats Jim!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Ben Darnell is at Dropbox.
- Tudor Bosman
Also, Dan Hsiao is no longer at Facebook (no more details).
- Tudor Bosman
Goutham Patnaik is at Google.
- Tudor Bosman
And yes, both Ross and Goutham were interns and were never Facebook employees after the acquisition.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor! Updated above.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Overall status as of May 22, 2012: Of the 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees plus 2 interns, 6 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Bret T., Casey M., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), 6 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B.), and 2 were interns who never went to Facebook (Ross M., Goutham P.).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
:-)
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
And now there are five.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Indeed. I'll update when I get back from vacation -- by then we should know more about Bret's new venture.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
Bump.
- Gimminy
Ah.
- John (bird whisperer)
Oops, I see I never updated this. Stand by.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Bret's entry updated.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Overall status, as of June 15, 2012 (updated on September 13, 2012): There are 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees. (In addition, there were 2 interns (Ross M., Goutham P.) who never went to Facebook, per Tudor B., above.) So, of the 12 official FriendFeed employees: Currently, 5 of 12 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Casey M., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), and 7 of 12 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Bret T., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B.).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
So basically we're gradually losing FF advocates within the mothership. :-(
- DB, Just DB #TeamMonique
So clearly we need to either recruit current FB'ers to start using FF or get FF users employed FB, or both.
- Andrew C (✓)
13 Sep 2012: what was the cause of the outage? But perhaps more importantly, *who* kindly fixed it (and from where) ? [If FB open sources FF, who would be willingly to maintain it?]
- Adriano
And whoever it was, I'd happily buy them a nice dinner.
- Meg V. Meg
Per Tudor (in this thread http://friendfeed.com/friendf...) it was Sanjeev who saved us. THANK YOU SANJEEV!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
SANJEEV!
- Josh Haley
I think Sanjeev is most eligible for a FF Rent Party of sorts. More of a FF Thank You party.
- Janet:#TeamMonique
bump just to immortalise this pix and the start-up crew !
- Peter Dawson
Ana left Facebook, no more details.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor -- I updated her entry. Overall status, as of September 20, 2012): There are 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees. (In addition, there were 2 interns (Ross M., Goutham P.) who never went to Facebook, per Tudor B., above.) So, of the 12 official FriendFeed employees: Currently, 4 of 12 are still at Facebook (Ben G., Casey M., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), and 8 of 12 have departed from Facebook (Ana Y., Ben D., Bret T., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B.).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Thanks Tudor and Stephen for the update.
- Meg V. Meg
Casey left Facebook as well (which, as he's Ana's husband, is no big surprise :) ). No more details.
- Tudor Bosman
Ah, so three now. Thanks Tudor.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
Not sure how I missed Tudor's update back on October 2, but I have now updated Casey's entry.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Overall status, as of October 2, 2012: There are 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees. In addition, there were 2 interns (Ross M. and Goutham P.) who never went to Facebook, per Tudor B., above. So, of the 12 official FriendFeed employees: Currently, 3 of 12 are still at Facebook (Ben G., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), and 9 of 12 have departed from Facebook (Ana Y., Ben D., Casey M., Bret T., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., and Paul B.).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
An update of sorts, which I guess is in and of itself creepy. I was reading a recent piece on Google Reader, and I was struck by the fact that Darnell jumped from Google Reader to FriendFeed (there are similarities between the two orphaned applications, when you think about it). Then I saw that Darnell made his move right before the Facebook acquisition. After reading subsequent...
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- John E. Bredehoft
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
go2blog, Nir Ben Yona, Laura Norvig and 6 other people liked this
Getting ready
- Keith Teare
about 5 minutes til blast off1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm here, it's 1 p.m.
- Robert Scoble
I'm here - have to depart abruptly at 2:00.
- John Taschek
Oh, shoot, missed the call. Call back.
- Robert Scoble
We are having technical troubles, just hang out...
- Robert Scoble
Is this the primary chat area for Gillmor Gang listeners?
- Matt Terenzio
Yeah! Show starting in a few seconds.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, isn't it awesome?
- Stephen Pickering
need that 'don't bother me setting'
- Kevin Marks
I almost think you don't need to monetize mobile. Mobile seems to be the content creator, and then I''d rather consume it on the big screen.
- Stephen Pickering
Matt Lauer
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook is a chair -- talk about that nonsense.
- Brian Sullivan
He's right because it only measures how many people are still actually looking
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook is a chair? are they trying to get Clint Eastwood to join?
- Kevin Marks
Don't need to monetize mobile because those 600 million are creating free content for FB
- Stephen Pickering
Hello friends.
- Darren
Olá
- Stephen Pickering
The geek users are there.
- Stephen Pickering
hello everyone!! Big weekend ahead here in the bay area
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google+ crowd seems to be more tech-centric audience.
- christina sponselli
I love how G+ automatically uploads my photos. That's a great hook.
- Stephen Pickering
limiting Likes may limit the ability of FB to know its users
- Da
Uh oh. Attention was mentioned. Next it'll be Gestures. ; )
- Matt Terenzio
Robert maintains some great lists and I thank him very much for doing it. I just wish that I can tune the list for my own needs like I can clone in G+
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Don't forget the "Game of Games". :)
- Darren
Dang, Zynga is selling for the amount of cash they have
- Stephen Pickering
Words with Friends
- Da
Calacanis seems to think Zynga will make it with online gambling. Do you buy that?
- Stephen Pickering
Is Scoble still in Second Life?
- Matt Terenzio
They had Casinos.
- Matt Terenzio
Noticed that "dice with buddies" is the latest trend with many.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Matt: no.
- Robert Scoble
Do you think online gambling will become legal in the US anytime soon?
- Stephen Pickering
Gambling is all about controlling taxes on it, so maybe if they block sites from outside U.S. or tariff them somehow
- Matt Terenzio
steam! coming to linux as a hedge against windows
- john
unlikely Stephen
- Kevin Marks
Today back in 1962, the first James Bond Movie, Dr No was released. Plus the Beatles released their first single, 'Love Me Do'. Both James Bond and The Beatles became Britain's biggest Cultural Icons of the 60's.
- Moe Glitz
http://indiegamethemovie.com is worth watching
- Kevin Marks
I loved games before I started web devlopment, then that became my game, or consumed any game time I ever have.
- Matt Terenzio
I wanted to see that
- Stephen Pickering
sacca : fB is for friends you used to know, twitter is friends you want to know
- john
$10 for a 1080p download, Stephen
- Kevin Marks
that wasn't sacca originally
- Kevin Marks
john: sacca used to be right. He isn't any more.
- Robert Scoble
Ha! Kevin
- Stephen Pickering
M&A
- Darren
Twitter is currently worth between $6-10 Billion?
- Moe Glitz
Apparently
- Stephen Pickering
But in QE Infinity dollars what's a billion here or there?
- Stephen Pickering
Pinterest about the same. Still don't know why?
- Moe Glitz
Just don't take away my TweetBot!
- Stephen Pickering
Twitter is the modern Yahoo? That doesn't bode well.
- Brian Sullivan
Twitter wants to be the CNN of Social Microblogging
- Moe Glitz
twitter has become CNN + Enquirer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter is CNN-- that also doesn't bode well for them.
- Brian Sullivan
Very true Tina
- Moe Glitz
It's just the modern version of news, where the audience is also the producers
- Matt Terenzio
fB is still way slower on mobile than tw (both native app + stream)
- john
Mobile is the advert for the service as a whole
- Stephen Pickering
Scoble blow!
- Evan Prodromou
he's going of the rails!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is that what Steve was saying?
- Matt Terenzio
It's mostly a Twitter design issue more than the 500 List limit.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
So what should they do?
- Stephen Pickering
Some things need huge scale but not all things. Some services do fine with smaller numbers, and by fine I mean add more value to their users by virtue of the fact that they aren't mainstream huge.
- Matt Terenzio
Agree with Kevin. The TV 'n' tweet combo is interactive, not just sit back and watch entertainment.
- Amyloo
i get the most intelligent developer links from twitter
- john
having to patch apps for retina is such a cock-up
- Kevin Marks
Apple should have developed a better way to show legacy apps on retina. Depending of the developers to support it was a big mistake. They should have do it in the OS.
- Murray Macdonald
had to look up cock-up : )
- Matt Terenzio
Keith has the biggest one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm clearly compensating
- Keith Teare
making the type look right in retina should have been job one.
- Kevin Marks
Hahahaha
- Stephen Pickering
big blocks or little blocks
- john
what do you mean you can't make a list on twitter ...?
- Laura Norvig
@scobleizer - he's right Twitter is about entertainment -- see the top most popular: http://twitaholic.com/
- John Taschek
Facebook ads are dorky.
- Brian Sullivan
Laura you can't make this list on Twitter: https://www.facebook.com/lists...
- Robert Scoble
Both are bad Door to Door Salesmen
- Moe Glitz
Why? Twitter is limited to 500 startups. This list has 1,400.
- Robert Scoble
Rope a dope?
- Brian Sullivan
Both are full of noise.
- Murray Macdonald
RSS still the best news feed....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Do people only want news
- Murray Macdonald
And news publications, like NY Times, are pushing notifications directly on phones
- christina sponselli
Where do people get their news? - http://www.poynter.org/latest-...
- John Taschek
Steve, your voice a little distored
- Murray Macdonald
Scoble is right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Why do I want my news on a small screen?
- Murray Macdonald
no Scoble is right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't it a matter of taste? Scoble likes the pictures. I like that you can scan more messages on a single Twitter screen, and get a better, broader sense of what's going on right now.
- Amyloo
joke
- Laura Norvig
And iPhone has Google Maps... Oh right...
- Murray Macdonald
I think I'm mixed on pictures in news feeds. They have value but should be sized smaller unless I click on that post for more. Would be best of both worlds.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
!!
- Amyloo
fB - 20
- john
text only = cognitive overload
- Laura Norvig
I know Steve' mic is being weird and not sure why. Will troubleshoot after show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
So pinterest is the #1 feed?
- Murray Macdonald
Take that!
- Hilary Talbot
He's blowing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
FB v Twitter discussion feels like a management meeting where people talk about a website design review. Everyone has an opinion. Put it out for user testing.
- christina sponselli
OK, now you're getting derailed, Robert. You were on a roll there for a minute. Popular doesn't mean quality, obviously.
- Laura Norvig
Wow, it wasn't me this time for the feed rant! ;-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
but but I hate picnics!
- Amyloo
Let's just get our news from Flickr then! Do away with all text!
- Matt Terenzio
Robert's smile is telling
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Why are all the developers so prone to use twitter, not fb?
- Murray Macdonald
Twitterest
- Moe Glitz
I want options in the mobile apps to chose pics vs text only. How hard is that....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Now we all know your password...
- Murray Macdonald
Yes Twitter needs to innovate
- Tina Chase Gillmor
bingo
- Laura Norvig
Murray: you can have my iPhone after you uncurl my cold dead fingers off of it. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
well, why not have the user be able to choose their options, which is what the API was for, innovation from other places
- Matt Terenzio
+1 matt
- Amyloo
Robert: It will be obsolete by then... And a little too sweaty.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm on Google Reader more than Facebook, Twitter, G+. Much faster to go thru text than pictures
- Da
Robert: I thought flipbook was your news client...
- Murray Macdonald
Do you think someone may fund app.net so that it could go free?
- Stephen Pickering
Me too Da.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't want a single automated feed filter. I want to control my filters, not have it automagically done for me. The winner will be the one with the greatest filter control.
- Murray Macdonald
Well, Robert isn't a typical user. I only follow 700 people on twitter and that is intentional, not because I can't find more. Not sure what typical number of followers is though
- Matt Terenzio
Big Turkeys
- Moe Glitz
Average Twitter user follows 170 accounts
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Where is the client/platform that lets me control my filters? FB tries to do it automatically, but isolates me from things. Twitter to too much.
- Murray Macdonald
Stephen, wouldn't that defeat the purpose? Then they would need another business model and there would be a conflict of interest again.
- Matt Terenzio
We put out a Romney-Obama social survey here: http://www.radian6.com/blog...
- John Taschek
kpbs is nothing better for a disaster event in your area, nothing had more info on the radio during the SD fires
- john
and clear channel was on auto pilot with no info on most of the fm dial
- john
Robert: is flickr your main news feed? why not?
- Murray Macdonald
Matt, point taken, but from what I'm hearing they need more innovation, so I figure App.net could do it better, even though, you're right, they'd still have to find a monetization model
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook and Twitter feeds into my Google Reader. Sucks I can't do that for G+
- Da
Pictures are not everything. Twitter has photos too. Twitter clients could show more photos...
- Murray Macdonald
Stephen, yes, it would eliminate the innovation part of the problem
- Matt Terenzio
The media talks about Twitter because it is like them -- they understand it. They talk and everybody listens.
- Brian Sullivan
What Jack said was right. The number is down only because the labor force has shrunk.
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook basically *forces* users to post graphics if they want to get any attention. There's a feedback loop where posts with graphics get more likes and comments, therefore they get higher in the newsfeed and therefore FB tweaks the algorithm to bump stuff w/graphics, and then organizations that follow FB trends feel compelled to post graphics or videos.
- Laura Norvig
Same with G+ Laura.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Everyone is using voicemail, but I wrote it off years ago...
- Murray Macdonald
I'm so totally addicted to FB. I wish Robert would do a tutorial on how to use it more effectively though.
- Stephen Pickering
Eventually that supports the growth of idiocracy, as people aren't forced to practice reading
- Laura Norvig
LinkedIn is the yellow pages for business...for better and worse.
- christina sponselli
I agree with Steve - Facebook is an irritation -- if my daughter didn't post pictures and movies of my new granddaughter there I wouldn't go there.
- Brian Sullivan
tune your feed!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Linked-in is match.com for the chronically underemployed.
- Murray Macdonald
Then on Twitter there is: #FF @a @b @c @z garbage
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Why doesn't twitter just launch a better UI? Seems like low hanging fruit.
- Murray Macdonald
You can't do it all in one UI. The beauty of third party twitter stuff was different stuff for diff use cases.
- Laura Norvig
in the end fB has 50b's .. tw has 6b and they're competing
- john
Brian - Steve is wrong
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I post Dead Videos and Yankee game photos to FB. My followers there aren't interested in Python or the News industry. They are on Twitter.
- Matt Terenzio
I don't agree that mobile is a challenge. It's an advantage. It's the content creator.
- Stephen Pickering
I want to send all these feeds into a single client that gives me powerful filtering options that I can control.
- Murray Macdonald
Tina -- That is what my daughter says as well -- but I don't buy it.
- Brian Sullivan
I want to create a handful of different feeds, from my raw feeds. One for friends, one for geeks, one for politics, etc...
- Murray Macdonald
He's so right about the Meta stuff
- Stephen Pickering
I see the same stuff that Robert sees on FB on G+.
- Brian Sullivan
The normal person doesn't subscribe to "lists".
- Brian Sullivan
Why doesn't Twitter put ads on their site?
- Stephen Pickering
I mean on the right or left side of the page
- Stephen Pickering
I want to make my own lists from different sources/feeds then direct them to different clients.
- Murray Macdonald
Flipscam
- Stephen Pickering
But YOUR lists are not exactly for the subscribers, it's a jump start but it takes time to steal the ones in the list for a personal list. It's a good start but G+ does a better job to clone a circle then modify to your needs.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
RAX = 9 billion dollar market cap, and my dumb ass didn't buy any shares 3 years ago
- Stephen Pickering
I agree with laura
- Kevin Marks
Robert, I've been looking for some subject matter to test one online course on 8 to 10 different platforms. Would you be interested in providing an instructional video on how to tune your FB feed?
- Amyloo
I want my FB, Twitter, and linkedin feeds, boil them down, and view them (separately) as different lists.
- Murray Macdonald
Mark: you're wrong. Google+ is an abortion. I can't do anything like what I just did on Google+ to get you started.
- Robert Scoble
Amy: might be fun, but the next month is hell on my calendar.
- Robert Scoble
That Chris Sacca interview was mind-blowing
- Evan Prodromou
Thanks again guys.
- Murray Macdonald
I agree and disagree Robert. My point was I can clone your list and then filter for me. That is a huge hole in the FB list features.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I haven't quite worked it out yet, so much later would be better for me. I'll let you know if I make progress on it.
- Amyloo
Thanks to everyone. This conversation is always so smart
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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I think that I will need to stay very quiet on this one, I expect plenty of "Apple Love" from Robert and others with maybe a little disappointment. I won't "troll" the moment as much as it will kill me to stay quiet. ;-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Call back. :-) I missed the call.
- Robert Scoble
ok
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Mac crashed, rebooting
- Kevin Marks
from Android
Mark: You might be shocked at what I'm about to say.
- Robert Scoble
LOL, I think you'll be fair. Sorry you couldn't grab one last night.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
On the plus side, Friendfeed is up as opposed to a long outage earlier this week.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
at least that's going right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The iphone 5 show ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
Gillmor Gang is about to start. What are we going to discuss? http://ff.im/14vkWK Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. And a few other things. :-)
- Robert Scoble
That is a long reboot and now spinning on login. Not sure what's up with the mac
- Kevin Marks
from Android
We are waiting for Kevin Marks' reboot to finish. :-)
- Robert Scoble
we'll start and bring you in. try closing down and restarting
- Steve Gillmor
I pre-ordered my Gillmor Gang, what's the delay? :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Maybe Apple doesn't want him on the show. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
kevin?
- Steve Gillmor
hang in there folks... we're about to begin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If Kevin can't join I can argue with myself about how bad or good the iPhone is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
won't you do that anyway?
- Charlie Isaacs
I can't hear anything...
- John Taschek
Charlie, yes. We're just about to start.
- Robert Scoble
silent brilliance
- Jerome Hughes
The new ipod Touch is definitely a winner. Only 6.1mm paper thin.
- Nir Ben Yona
new touch is 299
- Jerome Hughes
Fortress of lassitude
- Kevin Marks
from Android
BAM! Taschek from downtown!
- Chien-Yu Lin
4th gen now 199, correct?
- Jerome Hughes
contexual stuff
- Da
They always sell out ... just marketing.
- Johannes Siemers
No Apple TV upgrade, right?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
if more iOS apps, why more people get Androids?
- Da
iPhone 5 vs. iPhone 4s http://bit.ly/Q9qvfH [infographic]
- Nir Ben Yona
bigger, faster, longer, louder...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's Tim Cook's way. His expertise is building incrementally better, cheaper, smoother not the Jobs way of pixie dust and marketing.
- Brian Sullivan
iPhonefortress, iPhone5tress, what's the difference whether there's ineptitude or not
- Charlie Isaacs
My slogan for Android phones Tina.... ;-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
wow, that last post had time delay built in, must be a network issue :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
My non geek friends have lot of Androids
- Kevin Marks
from Android
Well, not the longer part...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
alt-punditry
- Jerome Hughes
It sold out because it's a religion.
- Murray Macdonald
It DOES do more. Photo Sharing, NFC, WiFi Direct...
- Murray Macdonald
Couple of years later -- Introducing the iphone 101 http://bit.ly/Q9qPLj
- Nir Ben Yona
A VZW Note 2 would do simultaneous call and data on LTE
- Da
What?Maryam's friends don't know the Gillmor gang?!!? Im outraged. Going to have to change that.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sadly, I will likely buy a Touch (and iPad 7) for development too, though I hate supporting Apple.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Apple's walled garden stops developers from doing many things, like creating keyboards, accessing hardware, etc... Many of my mobile developer friends are careful to develop for apple first because they know the will get blacklisted in the app store if they launch android first.
- Murray Macdonald
Moe, Tim should just press an "Isn't that awesome" button on his slide changer
- Charlie Isaacs
October
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
they also said there would be no iPods in this announce
- Jerome Hughes
The 7" form factor is GREAT. I love the Nexus 7 kicks ass.
- Murray Macdonald
Zuckerberg "came out" -- I missed that.
- Brian Sullivan
I can’t afford too many devices, so I still have my XP desktop. My splurge is my VZW Nexus
- Da
Someone tell Scoble that there was a satellite truck dealership convention in San Francisco the day of the Apple launch
- Charlie Isaacs
USB mini makes WAY MORE sense. USB is waterproof too. Adapters are going to suck
- Murray Macdonald
Why are apple guys so willing to replace their gear?
- Murray Macdonald
i'm glad i'm not overpaying for my devices, since i don't own anything apple
- Da
Forget the vendors... What about the consumers?
- Murray Macdonald
Cars get rusty and need expensive service.
- Murray Macdonald
Why is the microUSB to Lightning adapter only going to be sold in the EU? Besides the law....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Google Glasses Google Glasses
- Alex de Soto
It's the Louis Vuitton of phones.
- Murray Macdonald
Segway Segway
- Ken Sheppardson
my pretty
- Jerome Hughes
Google self-driving Segway. So you can't crash it while you wear your Google Glasses.
- Alex de Soto
Y'all saw the Jimmy Kimmel bit, right?
- Ken Sheppardson
nope, looking
- Jerome Hughes
...giving folks the iPhone 4s, asking them what they thought about the new iPhone 5.
- Ken Sheppardson
that's a funny stunt
- Jerome Hughes
experience matters?
- Jerome Hughes
and gMaps is still available in Chrome for what it does better
- Jerome Hughes
Seems to me the point of the Kimmel bit is unless things are side-by-side, Normal People don't care about the specs. They might recognized the difference between a Palm Pre or Motorola StarTac and an iPhone and obviously want an iPhone... but 4 vs 4s vs 5? It's going to be a price thing.
- Ken Sheppardson
Serious mobile developers that develop for both platforms often prefer Android because it is easier to develop for, as it has fewer restrictions. It's annoying when apple reject your app because they don't like the APIs you are using or object to your paradigm.
- Murray Macdonald
Too bad that you cannot upload a video with the new Youtube app.
- Nir Ben Yona
Have they made the little spinning "Loading" dial any faster? Seems to me that's a big area for potential improvement...
- Ken Sheppardson
The normal people ARE the ones on Kimmel. They know enough about these devices that is marketed to them and are sold without knowing much more. Nor should everyone know everything about every phone BTW.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
What would happen if Google made Youtube accessible to Android only? Like apple with Flash. How would the market respond?
- Murray Macdonald
Would be nice to hear Bret's take on the whole HTML5 conversation.
- Ken Sheppardson
Anyone know if Facebook built their own markup language/renderer as a replacement for HTML5 on the phone?
- Kurtiss Hare
Good JS applications use web-workers and load in the background.
- Murray Macdonald
Not all HTML5 apps are as lame as the old facebook app. That app had serious design problems. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
- Murray Macdonald
I think John t. is boozing it up today ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No it is not...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
How is it better?
- Murray Macdonald
Android doesn't "automatically" update all the time (in fact most of the time) even if the app is set to.
- Brian Sullivan
Yeah, I've never figured out what "Automatic" really means (BTW, haven't touched my AT&T iPhone 4 since I replaced my Sprint Palm Pre with an Epic 4g Touch.)
- Ken Sheppardson
Correct Robert outside of custom ROMS.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Google notifications are fine. What you do with them depends on your coding.
- Murray Macdonald
You mean the Jelly Bean platform.
- Murray Macdonald
Apple's closed approach is their biggest problem.
- Murray Macdonald
Platform contours coding. Google's messaging is open-ended and, as such, has a minimum inconsistency that will always leave room for complaints from Apple users :)
- Kurtiss Hare
You can do whatever you want in the background on Apple IF THEY APPROVE IT.
- Murray Macdonald
cathedral needs its first billing, Mr. Taschek
- Jerome Hughes
NOKIA!
- Ken Sheppardson
Firefox OS (/prays)
- Michael Mahemoff
lol
- Kurtiss Hare
Poor Palm.
- Ken Sheppardson
BB10 is the favourite of many developers due to its best of breed debugging tools.
- Murray Macdonald
Silly HP
- Michael Mahemoff
you won't get fired for buying… (x)
- Jerome Hughes
Windows Mobile? What idiot buys a windows mobile phone?!
- Jared Naude
Leader vs. The Peleton
- Chien-Yu Lin
Meanwhile Meg Whitman talking today about HP someday maybe having a smartphone. Sigh.
- Ken Sheppardson
MSFT -> new XMLHTTPRequest()
- Kurtiss Hare
Ozzie is long gone isn't he?
- Brian Sullivan
"Native HTML5" is only valid if it's a first-class citizen, not playing second-fiddle to native tech and being hated on by users for lacking standard look-and-feel
- Michael Mahemoff
HP will not get into this market in any significant way. too late
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HP used to be one of the leaders in WinCE, now it's dead in the mobile water
- Michael Mahemoff
My next PC will still most likely gonna be a Windows, my next phone will still most likely be an Android. They work great together.
- Da
HTML5 is a valid option if you know how to design. Native development is often too slow and expensive. Technologies like PhoneGap allow HTML5 apps to deploy cross-platform. Native only comes first if the developer has unlimited money, or wants to service a limited audience.
- Murray Macdonald
Except they dropped audio on the Paperwhite
- Michael Mahemoff
+Murray: what I'm hearing from developers HTML5 is NOT appropriate for best of breed consumer apps. For the other 90%? Yes.
- Robert Scoble
Murray, best pure-HTML5 native app? It's okay for basic forms and content apps, to get them up and running quickly, but you miss a ton of things.
- Michael Mahemoff
ya but books on kindle can be viewed anywhere - ibooks are stuck on my iphone
- mal
Robert: That's kinda right... It depends on what your best-of-breed consumer app does.
- Murray Macdonald
Kindle in books, Netflix in video, iTunes is a virus
- Da
How 'bout those Yankees
- Michael Mahemoff
2016: Apple's America
- Kurtiss Hare
HTML5/PhoneGap get you something cross-platform quick. It does buy you quite a bit of time until you can write native apps for each platform.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Apple is worried about Spotify
- Da
Amazon is also available on some Blu-ray players.
- Alex de Soto
Robert: PhoneGap plugins allow HTML5 apps to access native code. Most developers don't know how to do this or how to effectively develop cross platform.
- Murray Macdonald
fuss with this!
- Jerome Hughes
Been listening ony phone. Ordered online at 12;07 from Apple store.
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Kindle products would be a great option for schools strapped for cash and in need of textbooks and textbook revisions. ROI in less than one year. If they paired up with Scholastic, great potential for bonding / revenue.
- Chien-Yu Lin
4k display wall + tablet
- Kurtiss Hare
You're absolutely right Murray but that point it is no longer pure HTML5. Hybrid design works very well for most if they know how to utilize it.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Wanted it because of the ecosystem and iTunes, which has better TV than Google store .
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Actually some people want a stand a lone system for their living room
- Jared Naude
Kinect control for TV is awesome
- Da
Couldn't find a hack for my parent's Roku2 to enable AirPlay.
- Kurtiss Hare
supported but no motivation to optimize, just to comply
- Jerome Hughes
Agreed Mark: HTML5/Hybrid is often the way to go. To discount it because it's not 100% HTML5 is a mistake.
- Murray Macdonald
Agreed
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Google's eco-system is great. My devices are all connected.
- Murray Macdonald
My Roku, Boxee Box, Logitech ReVue google TV, Panasonic BluRay DVD player with apps... all sitting in a corner now: everything is coming through the Xbox (Netflix + Vudu)
- Ken Sheppardson
no one i know has heard of airplay, but everyone has an xbox
- Da
It's the cost of connecting the nodes of the ecosystem together, not the ability
- Kurtiss Hare
iPhone needs NFC, Wifi Direct, and a replaceable battery.
- Murray Macdonald
sure, and a storage slot
- Jerome Hughes
Amazon doesn't have breaking bad
- Kevin Marks
from Android
Wifi Direct will enable all kinds of cool new services.
- Murray Macdonald
That's so true (re: ecosystem). I really want to get the Lumia 920, but the ecosystem just doesn't feel mature enough to have one.
- Nir Ben Yona
NFC -> Contextul, no Robert?
- Kurtiss Hare
Read somewhere that you need to use Kevlar or plastic for the phone surface to pass NFC signal. iPhone's glass and metal would block it. Is that true?
- Alex de Soto
"windows" take care of that, Alex
- Jerome Hughes
That would take adoption, tho
- Kurtiss Hare
NFC is needed. For example when you want to privately transact with a photo kiosk, NFC allows you to bump to connect to your kiosk, not the one next to it.
- Murray Macdonald
When my iphone is "on" my couch, it turns into a remote automatically
- Kurtiss Hare
Use cases for NFC - http://www.nfc-forum.org/resourc...
- John Taschek
Navigating to an app is becoming too much work for me, I'm placing some hope in NFC...
- Kurtiss Hare
That's annoying for the user.
- Murray Macdonald
NFC: Trade shows. Take a picture, Download product, services, contact information. Arrange for appointment.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Wi-Fi Direct needs to be part of this conversation
- Murray Macdonald
NFC is short (private) range, Wifi Direct is long range
- Murray Macdonald
the local version of realtime?
- Jerome Hughes
I hear what you're saying Robert... Perhaps where you don't have the local compute power or connectivity to do something Siri-like or off photos? A really dumb example is timing at the end of a marathon. NFC is recording times as runners cross the start/finish.... *shrug*
- Ken Sheppardson
Chien: that's not a killer feature, though. No pain.
- Robert Scoble
Very large volumes of devices/people...
- Ken Sheppardson
editing
- Jerome Hughes
Steve is right. Apple never shipped a machine with blu-ray.
- Alex de Soto
I want localized GPS. Walk into a store and get some direction when I need to find something. Where is that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
How does iPhone 5 prepare the way any more than the 4?
- Kurtiss Hare
NFC is extremely short range which is sometime desirable. Wifi direct is better for P2P apps.
- Murray Macdonald
Apple is waiting for mobile payments to be big enough and get enough players on it. That will be the game changer, not NFC or WiFI. Implementation is secondary.
- Abhishek Tiwari
You can do mobile payments today in Apple store with your iPhone/iTunes today without NFC for lower priced products
- Abhishek Tiwari
One benefit of NFC is that if you DON'T want to be tracked, it's up to you to mask/turn off the device. Easier than wearing a hood/mask.
- Ken Sheppardson
Apple doesn't want it because they can't control it. Same goes for wifi direct.
- Murray Macdonald
the new pay phone
- Jerome Hughes
The wireless chargers of today are garbage. WiTricity's promise of true wireless power needs to arrive.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@Scoble: Its not a common usage, but that's half the headache of a trade show. I've walked away with bags of samples and literature when we've tried to identify vendors and capabilities. Half the time, we forget what each company makes / does - and the names and faces with the companies.
- Chien-Yu Lin
sorry we missed Disrupt
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Loved Lit Motors.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi, just rejoined. NFC should be used to cheaply identify objects and once your smartphone discovers it, you get a custom menu for the object. It takes "Internet of Things" to a new level.. If everything is tagged, your smartphone can get you instant help buying things that are tagged, fixing things that are tagged, serving up FAQs, etc. Or "connect me to my social network friends that...
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- Charlie Isaacs
The Hex3 http://hex3.co
- Nir Ben Yona
The stylus pressure thing is the JAJA.
- Nir Ben Yona
Charlie, that's right. Though I'm more interested in instant administration, management, configuration than in instant buying.
- Kurtiss Hare
Charlie, how important will filters be in such a futureworld?
- Jerome Hughes
NFC could allow you to "physically" ship an app. Better than QR codes, anyhow.
- Kurtiss Hare
Bluetooth chips are under $2. iPhone 4+ supports Bluetooth Low Energy.
- Murray Macdonald
They need to have an iPhone vs Android team mode for the Laser Tag App.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Marissa is not impressed: http://news.yahoo.com/photos...
- Kevin Marks
How about mobile apps that send you a coupon when you are nearing a competitors location. Is that creepy enough?
- Murray Macdonald
Contextual stuff could use humor for sure! Some GPS software have tried but they're not very funny.
- Alex de Soto
one can hope that his leading example will be mimicked by others
- Jerome Hughes
Kurtiss, sorry just got on another call... :-o yes, I agree, it is the entire customer lifecycle. ANd yes, Jerome, there will be filters for everything. You will "check into" the NFC'd (or other tagging methods) objects and express interest in the object.
- Charlie Isaacs
that does sound cool
- Tina Chase Gillmor
With Wi-Fi direct, many users could turn off their GPS to save battery and still have a valid GPS coordinate.
- Murray Macdonald
I just got 2 androids to beam a contact between them using nfc on the 5th attempt o_O
- Kevin Marks
should be developed for Hangout too
- Da
haha I hear you Kevin, the technology is not there yet
- Charlie Isaacs
Scoble speaking of contextual...did you also see Chronos? It was at Disrupt and just was released. It's an app that takes Placeme to the next level in some ways. You can get it here: http://www.getchronos.com/
- Mark Krynsky
Benioff
- Kevin Marks
er, Benioff: http://storify.com/kevinma...
- Kevin Marks
WiFi Direct enables so many things you can't do today.
- Murray Macdonald
DreamForce
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sadly it still has a walled garden...
- Murray Macdonald
Wifi Direct solves all those bump problems.
- Murray Macdonald
I wouldn't bump with Scoble either :-p
- Charlie Isaacs
Wifi direct is the P2P answer.
- Murray Macdonald
Robert bumps the cam.
- Alex de Soto
Charlie: heh!
- Robert Scoble
HTML5 wasn't the FB apps problem. The app's design and performance were the problem.
- Murray Macdonald
TV is only for live sports...
- Murray Macdonald
Murray - Re the FB apps: Bingo.
- Gordon Van Huizen
Battery died on laptop. Bye all
- Kevin Marks
from Android
Nothing today about GoDaddy's outage either, slightly surprised...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Murray: the design of the native one isn't any different.
- Robert Scoble
Under the hood it is...
- Murray Macdonald
do the hustle
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks again guys.
- Murray Macdonald
Murray: the Facebook team claims they looked into HTML5 deeply and couldn't make it performant enough. So they went native.
- Robert Scoble
I disconnected my Wii because Wii Fit told me I was an overly obese 70 year old
- Charlie Isaacs
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Another great show, Gang. Always learning something new.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Thanks guys!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Thanks guys!
- Nir Ben Yona
thanks everybody!
- Jerome Hughes
There's no reason a well-architected HTML5/hybrid app should perform as poorly as the previous FB app did.
- Gordon Van Huizen
Robert: Across the plethora of old HTML5 devices in the market at the time, they were probably right. On modern phones, that isn't as true.
- Murray Macdonald
thanks to everyone... nice show folks. Thanks for showing up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
مجموعه ثيمات لمعظم موبايلات نوكيا sis Nokia christmas Themes http://developed-blog.blogspot.com/2012...
- gharip
Sorry I missed part of that, but what I heard was great! will catch the recording later
- Charlie Isaacs
Hi, Steve. I usted to follow Gillmor Gang on iTunes podcast, but now it seems to be missing since "Remote wipe". Is that so or am I just not looking for it properly? Thanks.
- José Moreno
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Potential Topics? Amazon tablets. Motorola phones. Nokia phones. Apple next week. Techcrunch Disrupt next week. I'm also now addicted to Breaking Bad. Since last week's show I've watched three seasons of it.
- Robert Scoble
Good Lord that's a lot of Breaking Bad in a short amount of time. Please lay off the blue crystals
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Breaking Bad is awesome
- Christopher Harris
I stopped watching Breaking Bad. Got to depressing for my taste.
- Johannes Siemers
On netflix, it just keeps on comping episode after episode...
- Kevin Marks
Breaking Bad is very depressing, but I got addicted. Robert, I watched all four previous seasons this summer.
- Francine Hardaway
did somebody say "blue crystals"? ;)
- Susan Beebe
Clinton knocked it out o the park.
- Francine Hardaway
My feed froze
- Francine Hardaway
and then thawed
- Jerome Hughes
Crystal Blue Persuasion...
- Jerry Schuman
:)
- Susan Beebe
can't find where I left the Kindle Fire...
- Kevin Marks
everyone's stream ok?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Of course, All The New Kindle Fires Will Have Ads That You Can't Get Rid Of. Didn't really want to talk much about that, did they?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
oh my God Danny is not stopping for air
- Tina Chase Gillmor
one of the first attack vectors for the hackers... multiple user accounts.
- Jerry Schuman
can I run Google Music on the new kindles?
- Kevin Marks
HDMI out... how fun.
- Jerry Schuman
Tina, Danny must have had some awesome espresso today! :)
- Susan Beebe
Danny is on fire today :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Breaking Bad fans. Do you listen to the BB Insider Podcast?
- Tom Guarriello
Danny is on fireHD today
- Jerry Schuman
Kevin: Rooted yes.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
its the new blow
- Tina Chase Gillmor
A book on Revolver? Gotta get that title.
- Tom Guarriello
Bring on the Punditry! :D
- Susan Beebe
Pundintry? Pedantry?
- Kevin Marks
Amazon bang?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ha! Kevin!
- Susan Beebe
Yes, Jerry, something about thinking alike :)
- Charlie Isaacs
weird snatches of sound coming through
- Kevin Marks
skype is so lame sometimes haha
- Susan Beebe
LOL. Someone is chewing a robot or something.
- Nir Ben Yona
you're making him very angry
- Jerome Hughes
danny is frozen! lol
- Susan Beebe
auto tune
- Charlie Isaacs
Back!
- Evan Prodromou
hi Evan
- Kevin Marks
Crappy internet connections in Newport Beach.
- Jerry Schuman
Danny fried his own feed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Danny exceeded his bandwidth with his long monologue so now his service provider is throttling every 50th byte
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't Google and Amazon threaten both Microsoft and Apple, because they can give both Software and Hardware away, at least eventually?
- Stephen Pickering
Hi Kevin!
- Evan Prodromou
I like 'pundit tree"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
they made the browser free
- Kevin Marks
and IIS
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is throwing back champagne today. Real lush that guy is
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It was iced water, but it melted
- Kevin Marks
They made the browser free to kill Netscape, but now Google and the Cloud can give the software away and kill MSFT
- Stephen Pickering
You mean Wordstar
- Charlie Isaacs
This is like a visit to the museum.
- Evan Prodromou
My wife, to this day, calls MS Word "Wordstar" :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert - to make GG live @ http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/ - I will call u after GG today.
- clive boulton
Hell my LaserWriter cost me a few grand.
- Jerry Schuman
WordPerfect!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm using the Ringo glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Assume MSFT pulls off the Kobayashi Maru -- where does this leave Intel -- failed low power processor family?
- clive boulton
Microsoft could charge "mob rate" pricing for four reasons: (1) It was a software suite; (2) They were usually bundled with computers so they offered a "solution" or "system"; (3) The software "spoke" to one another; and (4) There was some stability so businesses trusted it.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Convertibles
- Jerry Schuman
I think Bezos had it right. People care about services not just gadgets.
- Alex de Soto
I love the Amazon apps store. I gave my wife a Kindle Fire and she hated it. She wanted the iPad apps. I told her to "find them on Amazon" but 90% of the stuff she wanted did not work on the Kindle Fire.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
well, he's selling services, of course he says that. Apple will say they like devices
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Is this more about "PC's dying" or "PC sales saturating and tablet purchases increasing"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
So far, Apple has better "services" in the form of their apps and their licensed content.
- Alex de Soto
not so much the books, Alex
- Kevin Marks
Same "mob rate" rational pricing for pizza boxes and garbage collection in NY/NJ - no choice monopoly
- clive boulton
I travel with my iPad + Logitech Ultrathin keyboard -- holds power for > 8 hr. flight, fits on Coach tray table while the guy in front me drops his seat
- Charlie Isaacs
Right you are Kevin about the books. I mostly read them on a Kindle and will be getting the Paperwhite.
- Alex de Soto
Is malware a problem for Amazon apps?
- christina sponselli
I want to get the Kindle Fire HD to play the movies from the Amazon Prime movies via their HD output to my HD TV (but them again, my Roku does that already, but not when Im waiting at my doctors office, etc) @SocialJulio
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Hello everyone. so glad you all showed up today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina :)
- Hilary Talbot
Can Microsoft make money with a no-cost tablet operating system? Apple can, and Google can. Amazon can. I think they're selling something everyone's getting for free.
- Evan Prodromou
Hi Tina. Hope you are still enjoying your roses.
- christina sponselli
your doctor lets you plug your tablet into his tv?
- Kevin Marks
Navy Seals aren't using spreadsheets, composing large Word files, long e-mails (= Office). They are looking at pictures, maps, terrains, videos (= Tablet).
- Chien-Yu Lin
"Don't stand out in Kandahar" (Robert said that?)
- clive boulton
My wife is the Creative Director for the Western US of the top app developer. Trust me... nobody is asking for Microsoft or Fire
- Jerry Schuman
I am loving the beautiful roses. All 21!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Navy Seals are writing books about Osama Bin Laden's last day on their iPads
- Charlie Isaacs
Hi Tina. Guess what? I'm a vegan now
- Francine Hardaway
The Samsung Galaxy SIII was developed before Jelly Bean. Will be out soon.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
After Gazelle, iPhone5 should end up costing me about $50. A little irrational, but not too much.
- Tom Guarriello
@Kevin, my dr has wifi and I will have stuff to watch while I wait on my Kindle Fire HD. Better than on my phone, etc
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
clive: yeah. Navy Seals told me that when you are overseas there are a TON of Apple devices in local coffee shops.
- Robert Scoble
I have a Samsung Galaxy S III and I love it!
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
(Resigned sigh) Can't I wait until Apple announces on Wednesday before ordering my Kindle Fire? Or will I then lose my Early Adopter button?
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, your wife is a freaking dynamo. I want to be her when I grow up. Any cool new art pieces?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Clive @Scoble: One book written is not a trend. American in Middle East stands out already. Tablet does not make them camo'ed.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Steve, what would it need to have?
- Francine Hardaway
@@ bet the Taliban still runs Windows (XP)
- clive boulton
What will Steve do if Apple ships a Mini Pad?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 Chien-Yu-Lin
- Francine Hardaway
My take-away from this: Steve has a big pocket
- Charlie Isaacs
She's been swamped with apps.. not a chance she's been in the studio. Though she's been talking about getting back out there.
- Jerry Schuman
the nexus fits in my jeans back pocket
- Kevin Marks
Hey Tina: This will crack Steve up: "Here Comes el Son: Songs of the Beatles With a Cuban Twist by Various Artists" http://itunes.apple.com/us...
- Alex de Soto
@Clive: Taliban using DOS
- Chien-Yu Lin
A reliable source told me that AirForce One runs XP
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
there was never a netbook market
- Jerry Schuman
Good thing I just bought a bigger purse. Will be carrying a Nexus, a Kindle, an iPad -- and no more Air
- Francine Hardaway
Right, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
the Air was the netbook
- Kevin Marks
like the ipad was the tablet
- Kevin Marks
at my first company we provided and installed PDP11's in Air Force ONe
- Charlie Isaacs
Netbooks were the play things of alpha geeks. Mostly to make hackintoshs
- Jerry Schuman
@Chien-Yu Lin Taliban's haz Internets (bastards)
- clive boulton
lost the picture and sound
- studentforce
@Francine: Thanks. Could I contact you later about the AZ Entrepreneurs' conference?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I had to switch from the appleTV to the mac mini to get Breaking Bad watchable on the tv
- Kevin Marks
Season 2? Oh man, are you in for a roller coaster. Walt spirals into the abyss.
- Jerry Schuman
I show the stream working Studentforce
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i had to reload
- studentforce
I have that painting as well:-)
- Francine Hardaway
And now there's the Apple's rumored "Pandora-killer" which will likely only be IOS/iTunes only.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
too many platforms and devices
- studentforce
I think Bruce Willis want to sue Apple because he can't leave his content collection to his children after he's gone.
- Alex de Soto
on a tv via ipad
- Kevin Marks
Roku
- Stephen Pickering
What are you talking about.. I can read my books across devices... it's called DropBox
- Jerry Schuman
@Chien-Yu Lin of course. Watch this Scoble-esque gesture: 602.910.5622
- Francine Hardaway
Roku is great
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
or by a mac mini
- Kevin Marks
Makes no sense to me to buy books through Apple for that reason
- Tom Guarriello
Roku is awesome
- Stephen Pickering
I get my HBOgo via Roku
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
and my Amazon Prime movies via Roku
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Is that what you did,. Kevin? I couldn't get Breaking Bad to Airplay.
- Francine Hardaway
Still like my Roku for non-Cable content.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I used the Mac Mini
- Kevin Marks
and the appletv
- Kevin Marks
No one is ever going to buy music again, that's why Apple is making the move into Pandora's space
- Stephen Pickering
Jerry, that's such a spoiler
- Francine Hardaway
I have a Mac Mini, so I will give that a try
- Francine Hardaway
I didn't give him a spoiler.... seriously
- Jerry Schuman
Enterasys Isaac
- studentforce
mac mini plugged into an hdtv is pretty good, though you have to use safari, not chrome for netflix
- Kevin Marks
internet of things
- studentforce
I guess I just thought so because I'm all caught up, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
I buy my music from Amazon, and then I can add it to my Itunes library, Apple devices and android Devices.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Apple still locks in pretty well. Outside of 3rd party apps...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
on the train is where I want the tablet to work
- Kevin Marks
@John -- what is the razor for the enterprise (any chances)?
- clive boulton
With Spotify, I don't think I'll every buy digital music again. I may buy a Physical Vinyl record for the object quality and the novelty aspect
- Stephen Pickering
Crystal Blue Persuasion.... la la
- Jerry Schuman
Start All Over Again...Nat King Cole. la la
- Tom Guarriello
that is why we need a force.com app that will evoke digital context contextually
- studentforce
studentforce does that Scoble
- studentforce
Yeah, but if you add all of those services up, they're less than the total of my DISH bill
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin - Why can't the trains offer wi-fi? Would be productive on your NB San Jose - San francisco commute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
for eTextbooks .. its the holy grail
- studentforce
Nexus Fire, wasn't that in one of the Star Trek Movies ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
god yes, Tina. Instead they put it on the Stockton line o_O
- Kevin Marks
Amazon & Apple are in the best position to offer everything, music, tv, movies
- Stephen Pickering
Amazon's next step is original content
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Robert just voiced my major gripe. Content is not centralized. The closest is Apple
- Francine Hardaway
I use the Verizon 4g to WiFi adaptor
- Kevin Marks
I have to give Logitech's UE (formerly Squeezebox) Internet Radio some props on making Audio sources pretty centralized. Makes a solid Roku experience for radio.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin ~ Sounder (Seattle commute train) has wi-fi. Always my Goog Galaxy tab 10.1 out.
- clive boulton
Not true. Spotify is better on Android
- Stephen Pickering
there he goes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Data vs. Logic
- Jerry Schuman
brace yourself for a Scoble explosion
- Tina Chase Gillmor
One problem with pulling together content from different apps is that it's hard to link them. Inter-app integration isn't as good as Web integration is.
- Evan Prodromou
What app is Scoble talking about?
- Tom Guarriello
If I were Microsoft, I'd drive the market this way: (1) Pair up with Dell (they've shown they have reach within business and will make devices cheaply, getting their money through service contracts and renewals); (2) Drive for a software suite that can be loaded into Tablets. Let's be honest: most people use less than 5% of all of the Word, Excel, PowerPoint functionality; (3) Establish...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
"Exsclobsion"
- Evan Prodromou
Steve smoking the peace pipe.
- clive boulton
A universal notification client sounds like a great idea. Don't think companies will allow it to happen though.
- Alex de Soto
The issue is DISCOVERY. DISCOVERY is facilitated primarily through word of mouth. IOS apps KILL Android apps when they're discussed from end users
- Jerry Schuman
so Scoble, why wouldn't companies aspire to make universal apps that seamlessly move from device to device while taking advantage of all of the best features of each device? That was Steve Jobs' vision from making universally easy products so that every app could work the same across their iPhone, and move to the iPad, etc. I agree with Steve, you and John are both right.
- Charlie Isaacs
You don't need Airplay with Netflix
- Stephen Pickering
guys ... in terms of eTextbooks (my focus) you are ALL WRONG
- studentforce
Browser, email, Netflix, Kindle, music player probably gets you pretty far
- Evan Prodromou
That's not true, Netflix's code and even UI is different on various platforms.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@Francine Hardaway: Thanks. Will call.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Some high schools are adopting iPads. Grooming the next generation of consumers?
- christina sponselli
true, but some is shared via HTML
- Kevin Marks
yes
- studentforce
netflix on appletv is weakest, cos it isn't their code but Apple's
- Kevin Marks
Good show folks!
- Evan Prodromou
@Sponselli: 7" iPad is basically dusting off the Apple II marketing plan. Smaller hands, smaller devices. What will kids ask for come Christmas once they use it in schools?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Goofy is a horse
- Kevin Marks
Twitter killed everything except for OAuth
- Jerry Schuman
Twitter killed itself because I don't even look at it anymore. All I look at is Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
i need instagraming on retina display (G+ has antlers which cover head shine)
- clive boulton
@Chien-Yu Lin: Seeing the trend of kids from a mid-upper economic group jumping from Touch in jr high to iPad in high school.
- christina sponselli
including JSONP
- Jerry Schuman
This subject I know very well, Goofy is a doggy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Charlie Isaacs
But if Goofy is a dog, what is Pluto?
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
I'm very upset of the loss of RSS from Twitter.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I haven't tried to scrape twitters html recently, is it still crufty?
- Kevin Marks
And surprisingly, Dave Winer seems to be totally fine with killing RSS in Twitter
- Charlie Isaacs
but Twitter added a new widget
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
It will cause me to no longer track things like Scoble's Stared Favorites in Google Reader.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
and the widget pulls text, photos and videos
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Anyone notice Twitter no longer using real-time follower notification (talk about going backwards)
- clive boulton
Twitter is moving to federation... you watch.
- Jerry Schuman
Thanks Evan. these guys are amazing. I still love to watch them joust. It's cool to fell the real time-ness of it, even for me.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Federated Twitter databases?
- clive boulton
@Sponselli: I'm kind of thinking that they would start more toward middle school. High school? I could get kids to buy a toothbrush that promotes tooth decay if I marketed it right.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I care almost nothing about Twitter anymore and everything about Facebook, which is exactly the opposite how I felt 2-3 years ago.
- Stephen Pickering
Does this gut some of Flipboard and Currents, or are they accessing Twitter elsewise?
- Denise Howell
'cos Dave Winer wants us to stop using twitter? (I don't know, he blocks me on twitter)
- Kevin Marks
Flipboard has to be nervous.
- Tom Guarriello
i think flipboard is using the rss feed, not sure though
- Kevin Marks
Winer blocks you, Kevin? That's flippin' hysterical!
- Tom Guarriello
Facebook machine learning algorithms failed for me. Zuck needs more data than I was willing to contribute.
- clive boulton
What happened??
- Tom Guarriello
Winer blocks everyone at some point
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter <> monetization = pivot
- Jerry Schuman
+1 Tina and so are you :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Anybody else lose the show?
- Tom Guarriello
@Chien-Yu Lin: Distinction of wanting and getting. Some parents, including this one, consider the amount of screentime their kids get and the parent monitoring time required.
- christina sponselli
So a "universal" browser for all of this stuff is unlikely.
- Alex de Soto
I show the stream up tom
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I lost the feed momentarily Tom but it came back, I thought it was my connection
- Charlie Isaacs
I just reloaded bldg 43 and it came back. Weird!
- Tom Guarriello
Lost the connection, but a refresh brought it back.
- christina sponselli
hmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cant explain that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I bet Dave Winer keeps saying that RSS Rulz!
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir - but of course
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Sponselli: Sure. Just saying many kids will go to college and there will be a time when being competitive as a student + school requirements + social pressure / status will create a situation where a purchase will be made. Bonding is pretty powerful, regardless of usage frequency and duration.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Robert, I can see some of your FB Favorites, via Incognito, not logged in
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Sweet Charlie. Thanks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
You hit the nail on the head and it's exactly the market Twitter is going to go after...
- Jerry Schuman
thanks because chatter is a feature of the force.com platform
- studentforce
Video down again
- Tom Guarriello
Chien-Yu Lin: Agree
- christina sponselli
Burberry vs Bogart Trenchcoat row highlights minefield who owns content...http://goo.gl/EfbU5
- clive boulton
For Facebook, most are social loiterers who use the medium as a digital scrapbook and internet chatroom.
- Chien-Yu Lin
But since, storage, bandwidth and processing halve in price every 12 months, then something like App.net may be viable in 5 or so years
- Stephen Pickering
Refresh brings it back
- Tom Guarriello
Go check out SylkServer from AG Projects. SIP/XMPP with presence support. Just heard they're going to release in the OSX app store. Light this thing up behind the firewall and get a complete message bus for the enterprise that includes, voice, video and chat.
- Jerry Schuman
ADS ARE ANTITHETICAL TO TWITTER'S ETHOS Twitter is about real-time information with little-to-no self-editing time between information and Tweeting / re-Tweeting. This is why Twitter is used primarily as a newsfeed and the SARG (smart-ass remark generator). And there's the challenge: (1) How Can One Monetize News? We consciously understand - or intuitively know - that news, unless there...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
whoa
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry ...
- Chien-Yu Lin
Lonest ever! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
meant longest
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My thoughts exactly. Probably the longest post ever, during the Gillmor Gang show.
- Nir Ben Yona
Chien-Yu -- you forgot about Twitter as a "social megaphone for horrible customer service" -- expressing negative sentiment about brands. I would also add that people help each other solve problems on Twitter, and help each other accomplish things.
- Charlie Isaacs
Fast typist for sure or great speech recognition!
- Alex de Soto
Chien-Yu Lin - fantastic and provocative posts
- John Taschek
Awareness ads
- Tom Guarriello
Thesis ;-)
- clive boulton
CPM is higher the better qualified your prospect is...
- Jerry Schuman
I disagree with Chien-Yu about disposability - tweets do build relationships, especially the phatic ones
- Kevin Marks
Jerry: yes, because the efficiency is better.
- Robert Scoble
The HTC One + Engadget ad at JFK Airport: http://twitpic.com/as3zx9
- Nir Ben Yona
@Scoble: You are absolutely right. Awareness vs. Closing. But I making the claim that Twitter has some very definite disadvantages compared to other social forums.
- Chien-Yu Lin
and don't forget - its a GOODYEAR Blimp as you noted. So Goodyear gets the product placement too - even though you are miles away
- studentforce
Chien: that's true, but Twitter has hundreds of millions of eyeballs.
- Robert Scoble
phatic ones or phallic ones...
- clive boulton
http://j.mp/twittertheory phatic, clive. Phallic tweets don't build relationships
- Kevin Marks
@Marks: When you talk to people on Twitter do you come back for the information or do you go somewhere else (as with all of the links)? Also, have you made more "friends" from Twitter or from Facebook?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Chien: I've made more friends on Twitter but that is quickly changing.
- Robert Scoble
there are many different ways that people find to make a universal message bus useful, and those individual people get to decide which ways make sense for them
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin: nod
- clive boulton
many more from twitter than from facebook
- Kevin Marks
Chien-Yu: I often prefer the simplicity of Twitter versus Facebook, but FB is def. much more social.
- Alex de Soto
@Isaacs: Yes - Twitter is a fast response, complaint engine. But do you find that it is more of a "starter environment" or a "fostering environment"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Twitter has always been an Identity system. A tweet is nothing more then a Presence message
- Jerry Schuman
I'm nto invited to the apple event :(
- Kevin Marks
ing the gang?
- Kevin Marks
It's crazy that Twitter didn't build a business model around search, just crazy
- Stephen Pickering
@Alex De Soto: Agreed. Half the appeal of texting is not wanting the details and length of a conversation, but having the satisfaction of communication. We want acknowledgement, but not necessarily depth. We expect closure: that's why we have emoticons.
- Chien-Yu Lin
:)
- Alex de Soto
Twitter seems to be one of those apps with a lot of untapped potential, but the potential never seems to emerge.
- Michael Roberts
I dont get that about Apple
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hm, I'm at Mobile 2.0 on tuesday, going to be tough to get to disrupt in time. http://mobile2event.com/...
- Kevin Marks
Why on earth wouldn't they regularly invite Scoble?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
“It’s almost here.” http://www.macrumors.com/2012...
- clive boulton
Kevin... where is Mobile 2.0?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Grand Hyatt Union Square. Where's disrupt this time?
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Agreed. But do you think in the long term, will people buy from Twitter?; how will Twitter be able to claim advertising from its platform as effective (it is true mobile, but may have to create discount coupons that expire within 1 hour of setting off geo-fencing - granted, this is a challenge for all - but I see it more as a challenge for them since their transactions are so short).
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu: I see it is both, but I in my role I focus on customer service. It is a Starter Environment for initiating complaints, that are usually taken off line. It can also be a Fostering Environment; when an angry tweet falls on deaf ears it can foster collaboration (in some case "rallying the troops", in some cases others coming to the aid of the suffering Tweeter).
- Charlie Isaacs
@de Soto: Touche.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Google+ is focusing on events with hangouts... they're starting to really show off the capabilities
- Jerry Schuman
Facebook could also disaggregate some of its services like the status update, and voila a simple twitter feed
- Michael Roberts
You calling me a dark spot?
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry: yup, that's where Google is strong.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for joining us, good chat room today!
- Robert Scoble
IT conversations probably exist.
- Michael Roberts
@Isaacs: But do you find the speed of Twitter is more helpful than the granularity and details of Facebook? I know each has its place, but in the long run, would it not be easier for FB to just mimic Twitter than Twitter to build a profile base and communication platform?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Livestream also has a new device
- Jerry Schuman
Wish G+ will disaggregate some of its services like the status update, and voila a simple twitter feed (lite weight web)
- clive boulton
@Gang: As always, great information, learn something new each show. Be safe. Have fun this weekend.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I'll bike over from union square tDisrupt at 8th st after I get offstage
- Kevin Marks
Great show! Good weekend all.
- Alex de Soto
Good show all. thanks for being here to everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
about 12 mins by bike
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Chien-Yu
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry @Chien-Yu, got pulled off on a call :) That was a fantastic show, BTW. I like Twitter for its instantaneous activity capabilities -- you can Tweet something and get a response within seconds, whereas, FB has more of a delay. I know a lot of people who are always watching Twitter with one eye (because of what you said earlier about news feeds) and only check FB a few times a day. I...
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- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Agreed. I just think of the possible scenarios - and the underlying usage / "DNA" of each company - I am not sure that it will have the value we think it does. We will all have essentially a "stock ticker" of life that will quickly be ignored and commoditized.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu @issacs G+ has more delay than FB. But comes into its own talking-in-circles. {replaces email in the enterprise?}
- clive boulton
@cliveb @Chien-Yu Well, put on your "vendor filter" but of course I am biased towards Chatter, that replaces email in our enterprise, and many others... G+ is like Chatter in many ways but it isn't integrated into the other mission-critical apps in the enterprise. For example, you should be able to collaborate around any enterprise "activity" -- Leads, Cases, Interactions, etc. and it should feed into a common thread for you without having to cut and paste everything manually. You can't do that with G+.
- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Keep your "vendor filter" on. We're building a SAP/G+ app for nitty-gritty enterprise activity like chasing shortages.
- clive boulton
ok, will do, @cliveb thanks and good luck
- Charlie Isaacs
Too bad that only the faithful are likely to be paying attention to this speech. So much disconnect.
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- Scoble, Alex Scoble
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- Keith Teare
If it wasn't for the British Isles, Gillmor and Paul Ryan wouldn't have any music to listen to
- Kevin Marks
hello all
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina, happy Friday!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
oops, JUST published our TC page. Forgot. My bad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey Tina. Nice to be able to watch live for a change. Makes such a difference.
- Amyloo
Intel in a world of hurt if MSFT pulls off the Kobayashi Maru
- clive boulton
GREAT to have you Amyloo
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I guess I'm just use to the way I switch between apps in Android.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Even server processors swapping to low 'arm' power
- clive boulton
Robert, wondering how airplay works in the workplace. Are most visitors able to use it? I'd think ... probably?
- Amyloo
H-E-L-L-O
- Nir Ben Yona
most people r not in the apple ecosystem, for more people it's a mix of Android phones, XBoxes, Windows machines
- Da
Hi everyone!
- Robert Scoble
90 percent of context is sequential - http://cloudblog.salesforce.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Da: agreed. But then in enterprises I'm seeing a HUGE move to iOS devices. Procter and Gamble just bought tens of thousands of iPads, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Would like to see more syncing between devices, esp. stuff like audiobooks -- pick up where you left off on the other device.
- Amyloo
the way kindle app syncs across devices is nice. Twitter showing you all the same dm's over and over on each one now looks lame
- Kevin Marks
Seems like more of your profile/apps need to move outside of the platform and more in the cloud so we aren't tired to a single ecosystem for streamless moving between devices.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, Kevin's example is ideal if expanded to other use cases.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Tine - you're off air on building 43
- Roger Shepherd
everyone sees the stream ok right now?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No video seemed to have dropped.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
when iPads are getting out there at 80 or so million per quarter like PC's, then ok
- Da
I dont' know why trying to fix
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Still off for me even after refresh
- Amyloo
Off Air over here.
- Nir Ben Yona
neither Building 43 nor Ustream is working for me
- Roger Shepherd
Bummer. The Gillmors have been having problems with the streaming. Stay tuned.
- Robert Scoble
Must be the new high-bandwidth connection the Gillmors have
- Roger Shepherd
Robert, arrange a conf call with Rocky, Tina? Discuss Tricaster for GG live @ http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/
- clive boulton
cliveb: email me. scobleizer@gmail.com
- Robert Scoble
can't understand keith
- Kevin Marks
trying to get stream up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The point I was making is that apples restrictions about access to sensors and transports severely limits developers
- Keith Teare
my profile/apps/music/files/etc have been in Google's cloud for a while now, and it's great
- Da
Tina - we up!
- Roger Shepherd
You're on
- Naor Mark
Stream is now working
- Johannes Siemers
@Taschek:Fast adoption is predicated on two ideas: (1) Changeless adoption: that the product is either very quick to learn and use - and that it does not disrupt the incumbent process a user performs to achieve a result (this is agent-oriented), or (2) Disproportionate change: where a user needs to learn a new process or master a device in order to create an end-result that is far disproportionate in gains from the incumbent method (this is results-oriented).
- Chien-Yu Lin
lift not lyft?
- Kevin Marks
Just tested my bandwidth 60 meg in/10 meg out
- Keith Teare
I actually don't mind most ads that follow me around. At least so far it's always been something I'm fairly interested in buying and I might want a reminder.
- Amyloo
I could use some good habits
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://itunes.apple.com/app... Lift app.
- Robert Scoble
it's when they still do it after you've bought it that it gets really annoying
- Kevin Marks
android version of lift?
- Kevin Marks
the more Likes I do on Facebook, seems the more relevants the ads are
- Da
Da: the more relevant EVERYTHING is.
- Robert Scoble
wow lots of technical problems today. I hate that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
gah, my skype has gon over to having mute manually again
- Kevin Marks
like google voice?
- Kevin Marks
Chien-Yu - absolutely. What's your Twitter address and G+ profile?
- John Taschek
So glad I saw Robert say that the other day
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Robert's threatening an Ayn Rand-like strike ;-)
- Amyloo
@Taschek: Twitter & G+: chienyulin (my profile picture will be three wolves "talking": 1 wolf is barking; 1 wolf is listening while covering the eyes of the 3rd wolf). Unfortunately, not a big presence on those two. Mostly on Facebook now. Yourself?
- Chien-Yu Lin
G+'s gulch
- Kevin Marks
80 apple / 20 android among techies, 20 apple / 80 android in the rest of the world
- Da
lol kevin
- Amyloo
come to think of it, isn't that app.net's appeal?
- Kevin Marks
john.taschek is G+ and jtaschek is Twitter. Facebook is surprisingly John Taschek
- John Taschek
lift conference is in switzerland not sweden
- nchenga
yup, sorry. I should have gotten it right since I have a Lift poster on my wall.
- Robert Scoble
Steve fixed Keith's audio very well. Sounds great now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Da - maybe true but the apple ones are spending 90% of the $
- Keith Teare
@Taschek: Thanks
- Chien-Yu Lin
hypercard?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
/me pours one out for hypercard
- Kevin Marks
Unification of Chrome and device: http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11...
- John Taschek
@Kevin: Virtual Tupac +1's this
- Chien-Yu Lin
there's no iOS equivalent of gtalk
- Kevin Marks
I’m glad I’m not overpaying for my non-Apple devices
- Da
Supercard was developed by Bill Appleton -- who created a cross-platform development tool - http://www.dreamfactory.com/
- John Taschek
iChat integrated AIM and jabber (gtalk), but never made it ot iOS, and now it's hosed on MacOS with facetime and imessage
- Kevin Marks
Scoble posts drunk to Chatter? uh-oh
- Kevin Marks
Social media for drunks... great
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Taschek: Does DreamFactory mate up with SalesForce.com? Are there any overlaps? Just wondering if DF is used by development teams from a project management standpoint since one hears all of the merits of Agile / Scrum (and DF promotes Gantt Charts, which Agile / Scrum, says is antiquated).
- Chien-Yu Lin
Yes, I'm here. But I am not commenting. Miss me.
- Francine Hardaway
I know Bill from the Dreamfactory early days, but we do not use as a standard tool. It first worked with salesforce.com and now it works across multiple platforms.
- John Taschek
Where's Francine and why is she not commenting? Labor Day weekend?
- John Taschek
I think I'm going to create an drunk social media channel
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine is on strike maybe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Some notifications are also suggesting input or action.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
"Play well together" or "the beginnings of collusion between AAPL & GOOG"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I was way wrong about Flash. Didn't think HTML5 sniffing would happen all over so quickly.
- Amyloo
well, iOS made it requires, and then MacOS turned it off by default too.
- Kevin Marks
@ Francine Hardaway: You're in the online education field, right?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Flash was removed so that iTunes could sell more music.
- Murray Macdonald
Flash still has the biggest collection of early education apps.
- Murray Macdonald
Flash still big in online learning, too. Reluctance to invest in new authoring tools, I think.
- Amyloo
and reluctance to learn them
- Amyloo
Notifications really need to follow / multicast to you. Go to all of your devices but disappear when you clear it on any of your devices.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I can honestly say my twitter stream does not look like Scoble's stream
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple couldn't control their ecosystem if they allowed flash. The genii would be out of the bottle with no way to stop others from selling movies and music.
- Murray Macdonald
Mark his words, damn it!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Murray, you're bonkers. Apple doesn't care about that.
- Kevin Marks
Mark his words....Tina .. usually people Rob my words ...
- John Taschek
@Gang: Do we think Twitter's "clamp down" is more about closing off the sources of free money that people are earning without Twitter earning a cent?; creating a more standardized process / semantic structure for their new products so they can harmonize?; or something else? All I hear is complaints, but nothing specific.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Tina, I love it when you give Steve shit. You're our representative!
- Amyloo
Filtering needs to be controlled by the user, not the provider.
- Murray Macdonald
Amyloo - well, it IS my job
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think I was brave enough one time on NewsGang to tell him myself that he was full of shit.
- Amyloo
Scoble is my filter
- Da
when i unmute I can't hear you
- Kevin Marks
@Gang: When we say "filter" on Twitter and Bit.ly, can we filter against the element of "time"? That is, so one does not see any old re-Tweets from eight hours ago when clearly new Tweets have newer, more information.
- Chien-Yu Lin
what was that about 4 screens? how does that work when I'm on the phone
- Kevin Marks
twitters notifications are crap
- Kevin Marks
why not abstract and standardize these buses? We need to encourage app developers to write to a universal abstraction, not competing services. Then users could choose their bus and filtering tools without alienating apps
- Murray Macdonald
yep, Murray. activity streams, pubsubhubbub
- Kevin Marks
why would content providers (like facebook) who need ad revenue continue to allow clients that filter out ads?
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin: what we need is something like Flipboard that watches EVERYTHING and picks good stuff for your small screen. Which is exactly what its cover stories feature does.
- Robert Scoble
do to these what imessage does to sms
- Kevin Marks
makes sense robert.
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: What was the product again?
- Chien-Yu Lin
flipboard
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin: Thanks
- Chien-Yu Lin
kindle is now on all my gadgets
- Kevin Marks
Facebook and other content owners need to get rid of flipboard and other filtering clients to have ad revenue. I think they will soon be history, like some twitter clients.
- Murray Macdonald
about to wrap.... thanks everyone for a great show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: Thanks, sent email. Just needing your blessing to get Rocky and Tina talking.
- clive boulton
Wonder how you'd even go about trying to sync Kindle books with corresponding Audible book. That, I'd like.
- Amyloo
Thanks guys, and Tina!
- Murray Macdonald
Another great show. As always, learn something new each time. Have fun / Be safe this weekend.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Until next time!
- Nir Ben Yona
Good one, thanks Gang.
- Amyloo
Let me say this: I hate Mitt Romney. Here's why. (And I don't use the word lightly.). http://scripting.com/stories...
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We will start in a couple of minutes. Just getting hooked up now.
- Robert Scoble
hi
- Keith Teare
Glad you're back at the helm, Tina!
- Tom Guarriello
Let's keep Robert calm this week, the Zebras were restless enough for him this week! ;-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Hah!
- Robert Scoble
Hello!!
- Susan Beebe
Hi everybody!
- Francine Hardaway
I miss friendfeed dammit
- Susan Beebe
So do I, Susuan
- Francine Hardaway
Miss you too Susan, FF for Life!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yes!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
Steve, they don't remember Last Tango in Paris
- Francine Hardaway
Off to a good start!
- Tom Guarriello
I can't see the comment thread on the page. Had to come to Friendfeed to see it.
- Karoli
You need Pages app to manage FB pages
- Tom Guarriello
friendfeed needs app.net integration
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is drinking something white and frothy!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook Android app reportedly being forced on Facebook employees, will be working nicely on Nexus 7 soon enough....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
it's Pellegrino Limonata, Tina
- Kevin Marks
Sounds lovely Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I find I can modulate my circles, but I see random stuff on G+ still
- Francine Hardaway
Karoli... yes the building43 comment area is borked
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Tina, glad it wasn't me. Same thing happened last week too. :(
- Karoli
It has been borked for a long time
- Francine Hardaway
Hello! Think Amy Higgins who just joined the Google+/Local team should tune in...tweeted at her! :)
- Tina Hui
Pinterest Effect
- Tom Guarriello
Sadly it's been down for a while now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Right, Keith.
- Francine Hardaway
COOL - thanks @Tina Hui
- Susan Beebe
Thanks, Tina Hui - that will be a huge help.
- John Taschek
Those photos are there more during the day than at night
- Francine Hardaway
it's a lemonade, about 150 calories a can
- Kevin Marks
I just add my list feeds and it works great.
- Karoli
Here comes Robert again!
- Francine Hardaway
He's gonna blow!! :D
- Susan Beebe
Sheesh. And people thought we were hot-headed on NewsGang.
- Karoli
I had to turn down the scoble volume!
- Frank Paynter
oh no, he's blowing early.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Filters are missing... We need a #NoCats filter ;)
- Susan Beebe
I really want a #NoCats filter
- Francine Hardaway
I'm following the dog shame blog a lot these days. Cats are totally passe.
- Frank Paynter
That would get rid of all the news about that Russian punk band
- John Taschek
My problem with any social network to date. I've attempted to unmesh the social spaghetti in the past through algorithms, it's a very tough filter to crack.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
YES - gmail style filtering!!!! PLEASE :)
- Susan Beebe
Happy to connect dots. :)
- Tina Hui
Happy Birthday Karoli
- Francine Hardaway
gmail style filtering- ditto
- Da
Hey HBD @Karoli !! :)
- Susan Beebe
FIlters are a first world problem
- Francine Hardaway
Filters provide the means to sanity on the web ;)
- Susan Beebe
Most people don't have enough friends to filter
- Francine Hardaway
I can't help that ;) heh
- Susan Beebe
We are all edge cases in one way or another
- Francine Hardaway
yup!
- Susan Beebe
@Susan and Francine, thanks!
- Karoli
I hear you "loud and clear" Scoble.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Robert: most of us don't need filters the way you do
- Francine Hardaway
gmail style filtering shows relevant email on my Nexus gmail widget
- Da
Prokofy@ What happened to him/her?
- Francine Hardaway
haven't heard that name for a while
- Jerome Hughes
He has kept me off so far
- Francine Hardaway
yea me too... whatevs
- Susan Beebe
No kidding. Robert is Walter White at the end
- Francine Hardaway
Blue content!
- Tom Guarriello
If only we had such passion for more of the meta.
- Karoli
Don't we have the technology to do this already? If we can use Facebook's facial recognition program - and toggle a selection of "human" vs "non-human" images - couldn't we screen out pets, food and landscapes (three things that are usually noise for most users)?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I'm only 2 episodes into season 5, no spoilers
- Kevin Marks
Private on Twitter = Favorites
- christina sponselli
Just RT ya Tina - we gotta get Scoble on camera 'xlodin'
- Susan Beebe
China has good filtering...
- mal
I'm caught up. Switching to Sons of Anarchy and The Good Wife
- Francine Hardaway
my G+ is only privately shared items
- Da
We do need real FILTERING for streams, content, people, brands and links
- Susan Beebe
we have lots of filtering, not all of it visible
- Kevin Marks
Visible? ;)
- Susan Beebe
Don't we also have internal filtering?
- Francine Hardaway
did some say filtering? :)
- Nick Halstead
Skypes new muting behaviour is shit, isn't it
- Kevin Marks
Noooo ;P
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Susan - she may be in a meeting.
- Tina Hui
Sorry, I meant Tina Gillmor tweet ;)
- Susan Beebe
What does Steve mean here by multi-plexing?
- Francine Hardaway
iPhone needs to do some catching up in China
- Da
Yes, Kevin... we are going to try to tweak Skype this week based on some new info someone pointed us at
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think he means "aggregating" for multi-plexing? not sure. I know what it means on an ethernet network though ;)
- Susan Beebe
It sounds like Keith Teare is trying to solve two problems at once: (1) For the publisher, a "bucketing" that creates a broadcast audience which also addresses an element of privacy; and (2) For the user, a pre-selected, filtered channel of information. But this is still "tagging", right? - even if it is by audience intent (rather than by keywords)?
- Chien-Yu Lin
And in movie theatres
- Francine Hardaway
If we talk about them every Friday, I bet we can get them to be improved as quickly as Track was
- Francine Hardaway
I use a microphone "mute" app on skype cuz I don't trust it
- Susan Beebe
There it was: Track
- Francine Hardaway
it mutes everyone else too much. I have headphones on
- Kevin Marks
ooh wow, that is not good....geez
- Susan Beebe
Need to de-mux your published content... one item should be splittable across the whole range of streams
- Frank Paynter
Google + has an API - it is limited though- https://developers.google.com/+...
- John Taschek
If not filters, then what? How do we optimize for signal and eliminate the noise?
- Susan Beebe
"Applications are limited to a courtesy usage quota" John
- Kevin Marks
I feel "push" is going to be mentioned next ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Frank, I do that with Buffer
- Francine Hardaway
But you go to the "buckets" or filters you care about first. And/Or allow them only in your main stream.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
it's 2008 all over again.
- Karoli
Karoli, that only makes us younger!
- Francine Hardaway
I'll look at Buffer... I'm not current these days
- Frank Paynter
that works for me. :)
- Karoli
But a family member may still send cat pictures but you care about the other stuff.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
what if the categorization was crowd sourced, someone could flag a cat picture "cat"
- mal
Robert's audience, excluding the ones he's blocked.
- Karoli
flag (tags) would be awesome
- Susan Beebe
geez sorry about that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Keith, Me, too. Much more efficient
- Francine Hardaway
http://www.childcareexchange.com/eed... Awe increases your available time!
- Frank Paynter
I was talking about block-sharing on twitter yesterday
- Kevin Marks
block sharing? hmmm
- Susan Beebe
I count on my Reader every day
- Tom Guarriello
Like the whole Gang, but Keith is always the voice of reason. IMHO.
- Chien-Yu Lin
subscribing to other people's block lists...
- Kevin Marks
CHien-Yu Lin that's because he's overseas
- Francine Hardaway
Those ZEBRAS were awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
Google Reader is awesome
- Da
Francine LOL
- Susan Beebe
Karoli: yeah, but I don't block very many. Out of 380,000 I've blocked about 40 people, mostly for spam reasons.
- Robert Scoble
@Francine - that a Brit thing, water-supply thing or other?
- Chien-Yu Lin
And me. :)
- Karoli
Little of both:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I block spammers every freakin' day and we all must do our part ;)
- Susan Beebe
Agreed, Google Reader is my only real content source. Most other places are to output some and see some personal connection news.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
someone's phone just made noise and I thought it was mine. Yes, the mind is the first to go.
- Karoli
i checked mine too haha
- Susan Beebe
Guess who's in my "Firehosers" circle
- Frank Paynter
Frank: heh.
- Robert Scoble
I guess Scoble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
smiling here...
- Frank Paynter
haha Frank!
- Susan Beebe
How's everyone doing today?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Great angle of the remote folks looking at Steve, @Tina Chase Gillmor
- christina sponselli
Hey somebody's phone is ringing ;)
- Susan Beebe
ouch down here
- Jerome Hughes
ok, that was weird. LOL. I'm looking at every device I have to figure out what is ringing that I don't recognize.
- Karoli
Plato appears on the GG!
- Tom Guarriello
Hollywood Robert is about to join us
- Tina Chase Gillmor
refresh fixed it
- Jerome Hughes
Just another Bozo on the Banter Bus ==>
- Frank Paynter
Put 'em back on Robert. I didn't get the shot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
my comments on some blogs end up one facebook
- Kevin Marks
especially techcrunch
- Kevin Marks
Frank, We're All Bozos on This Bus!
- Tom Guarriello
that's the kind of de-muxing I mentioned above
- Frank Paynter
Of course, let's also pay attention to the fact that the noise is intentional in many cases.
- Karoli
heh...
- Frank Paynter
my de-mux comment was for @kevin
- Frank Paynter
voting helps in finding good blog comments
- Da
I too have lots of 'opportunity' in my life !
- studentforce
@Tom, I heard that somewhere b4...
- Frank Paynter
Meh n branch
- Kevin Marks
I like Branch. Quora, not so much.
- Karoli
echo chamber in curated comments
- Da
But having said that, I'm not a fan of the elite conversation.
- Karoli
I like Branch.
- Francine Hardaway
But don't we kind of accept a limited dialogue format already with the quantity limits on G+ Hangout?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Plus the riffraff out here, that is!
- Tom Guarriello
i think conversations should take place between blogs, federated redundantly between them and optionally an interchangeable third party.
- mal
feudal and futile
- studentforce
in GG, Friendfeed is where a whole lot of the action is at
- Da
Feudal/Futile. Nice one, Kevin.
- Tom Guarriello
I pretty much agree with Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I love how Steve starts off with the premise that 'Steve is right"!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Crushed not to be on Gillmor Gang.; pissed not to be on Branch
- Francine Hardaway
I work with him. I love him... It's pathetically cute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
a G+ conversation about this recently
- Kevin Marks
twitter hashtags to filter
- Da
Oh francine... we love you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does anyone else have a sense that Twitter is our generation's CB Radio?
- Chien-Yu Lin
or twitter is our generation's bloomberg machine
- studentforce
What about app.net?
- christina sponselli
concierge track
- Jerome Hughes
Twitter's founders origin was related to dispatch (i.e. CB Radio-style communication) @Chien-Yu
- John Taschek
Not only shut off developers, they shut off users.
- Karoli
What's the URL for that?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Bob Wyman's IM-based track app: http://frackim.appspot.com/
- Kevin Marks
don't agree on app.net. I think they have potential to turn twitter into the pipeline without the value.
- Karoli
App.net will fail - walled garden w/ $50 entry fee - another me too product / #FAIL
- Susan Beebe
ugh. i hate facebook.
- Karoli
@Taschek - Did not know that: Thanks. I was kind of making a sarcastic social commentary about how sometimes democracy of publishing is a bad idea ...
- Chien-Yu Lin
what's robert showing? looks like facebook
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin, I meant Robert's Google Doc page that he was showing briefly.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
susan, one of the things about app.net that I like is that there's a barrier for trolls.
- Karoli
@Chien-Yu - sarcastic but appropriate!
- John Taschek
A list on facebook
- Susan Beebe
@Karoli - ahh good point
- Susan Beebe
App.net as corporate intranet product
- Da
too much momentum
- studentforce
Honestly, I see very few ads on FB, too.
- Tom Guarriello
@Scoble - But are the ads you are seeing more relevant to you? Could the ads be more targeted now?
- Chien-Yu Lin
there are plenty of ads on fb, but I don't see them
- Kevin Marks
if alot of my FB friends like a product, then I'd want to know about that product
- Da
Chien: yes, the ads are getting better.
- Robert Scoble
at some point we're going to have to either accept a different business model or else accept dictates of corporate influence. I'll take a different model.
- Karoli
Ferhad's 'uncanny valley of ads' was a good point: http://www.slate.com/article...
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble - That could be a sign that your faith in Z is paying off. Better targeting has to be a fundamental requisite to a more natural mobile experience.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I don't like Timeline
- Tina Chase Gillmor
'cos I don't use FB much, my timeline is techcrunch comments and pix of me standing next to people
- Kevin Marks
Facebook added Friendfeed's features to its system ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
most people only add friends and family in FB
- Da
I use Lists in Facebook extensively!!
- Susan Beebe
Is anyone drinking every time Robert mentions venture capitalists? :)
- Karoli
@Tina Chase Gillmor - Do you not think Timeline is specifically designed to remind you that Facebook is the multimedia scrapbook of your life? And in this way, is designed to bond to you through captured memories in a linear, chronological format? Isn't this the premise of Blade Runner?: What are we but an assembly of memories and mementos?
- Chien-Yu Lin
sheesh. I live by my lists on twitter.
- Karoli
I don't use lists on twitter or g+ really
- Kevin Marks
Twitter lists are great tool for segmenting users on the backend. Just make them private.
- christina sponselli
That "hot" "Trends" on Google+ is now the "Explore" area
- Susan Beebe
Thank you, Susan!
- John Taschek
no kidding, lists allow multiple timelines, would need more accounts if they went away
- Jerome Hughes
bwahahahaha. I simply don't believe google gives a rip about the iphone. they're as silo'd as the others.
- Karoli
so steve thinks google+ is the social network iphone, then?
- Karoli
I like this term "bwahahahaha" @karoli - may I borrow it for team meetings?
- John Taschek
By all means!
- Karoli
note 2!
- Da
Fighting words Susan!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
why buy branded PC when u can build one
- Da
Trying to keep my mouth shut lol
- Susan Beebe
yup! I can speak to that
- studentforce
I love that TV app ;)
- Susan Beebe
Chien-Yu - yeah I don't really use facebook to be a linear srapbook. More of a friend news reader
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I realised that I haven't seen a TV ad in weeks yesterday.
- Kevin Marks
Lucky you, Kevin. I don't watch tv and still see them.
- Karoli
nokia's html5 map is getting better
- Da
@Tina Chase Gillmore (TCG) - Sure, but I don't think you - or maybe any of the other people on this thread - is really "the targeted audience" for Facebook. I think the targeted audience is the person who would use Timeline in such a manner.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I was using the web browser instead of facebook app
- Susan Beebe
some of my friends are on Facebook. Most are on twitter.
- Karoli
or that's the conversion of those people that they're aiming for, start them talking with their friends, and then progress them to life sharing
- Jerome Hughes
the "smoky fire of Facebook..." LOL. Robert, the poet.
- Karoli
Twitter's notifications on android are shit. I need to update my nanoTweeter fork, clearly
- Kevin Marks
the billion folks that use Windows might disagree
- Da
imagine most will still want the best tablet
- Jerome Hughes
I'm pushing Mom toward the IPad instead of a new laptop. Whatever she gets, it won't be a damned PC
- Karoli
Did MS think Windows 8 was going to be their OS X?
- Tom Guarriello
Wasn't that NT, Tom?
- Kevin Marks
Maybe this is their next shot at it, Kevin?
- Tom Guarriello
You will still need to live in both worlds for the next 5+ years if not 10+. Because of most people's jobs.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
web means not having to worry about windows too much
- Kevin Marks
IE9 TV ads promoting it as a shiny new web
- Kevin Marks
But Apple TV is in the news today.http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Web circumvents os's
- Tom Guarriello
Apple needs to catch up in China and India and Fernley, Nevada
- Da
usability
- Jerome Hughes
it's still Apple's hobby
- Da
they're moving the Motorola folks into the Merchandise Mart just outside the loop, from pretty far out in the suburbs… some say it's being done partly in order to shed people
- Jerome Hughes
That ball shows that Larry Page wasn
- Tom Guarriello
@Kevin - Again, each time I see that Nexus product, I'm laughing as I am reminded of your picture of Dr. Who's Ood.
- Chien-Yu Lin
't keeping his eye on the "ball" as much as people thought.
- Tom Guarriello
I have three Apple TVs and use them constantly.
- Tom Guarriello
I use the nexus Q in the garden for music
- Kevin Marks
@Gang - Can we always have at least one critique of a Gilmore Girls episode?
- Chien-Yu Lin
http://www.youtube.com/watch... for steve
- Kevin Marks
New MS logo...meh meh meh meh
- Tom Guarriello
Good recovery, Steve.
- christina sponselli
Amy Higgins from Google+ is listening. :)
- Tina Hui
I call my kids "Gillmor Girls"!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tom - did that Apple feedback help you at all?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No, still dorky, Tina.
- Tom Guarriello
@TCG - Never thought any of the boys were good enough for Rory...
- Chien-Yu Lin
medium, keep forgetting that name
- Kevin Marks
I haven't changed any settings yet.
- Tom Guarriello
Darn, Tom. Should we go bak to the mat with them?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IDK, Tina. I'm just doing the stuff the software encourages me to do and GG is only podcast behaving like that.
- Tom Guarriello
Maybe test it out Tom, then report back on any positive, or otherwise, changes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Overall, the new Facebook app ROCKS! Too bad it's still missing some good features like tagging people and sharing posts.
- Nir Ben Yona
Rory was amazing. I like visiting Los Gatos...reminds me of the Gilmore Girls set.
- Tina Hui
This coming Tuesday?
- Tom Guarriello
@Hui - There's got to be a weekly Gilmore Girls podcast. If not, maybe we can start one. ;)
- Chien-Yu Lin
It still works...
- Tom Guarriello
@Gang - Another great show. Always learn something new.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu Lin. I'm all in. Hopefully perhaps Tina Gillmor and Susan Beebe too? I know Heidi Groshelle would be interested.
- Tina Hui
Thanks everyone....you are all terrific and we value your support each and every time we do our show.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thank you!
- Tina Hui
I like the geeky -- eerrrr weekly - Girls Podcast idea!
- Susan Beebe
I went to the future, that is Tomorrow, and got a pic of V with the BFG!
system4ezmoney, johnmacarthur48, Pardeep Singh and 23 other people liked this
Make it big, it looks better
- Fee501st
Too many pixels in that gun...
- Thomas
it looks Doomy to me ;)
- Fee501st
Also, wasn't it green in that game..?
- Thomas
Never mind - just the shot was green...
- Thomas
oh yea its not the Doom's BFG, its Quakes 2 BFG there no good shots of the Doom 1 BFG
- Fee501st
Now that's awesome!
- Dave Friedel
from Android
You should sign it as "BFGeek".
- Jason Wong
from iPod
I think everyone needs to be photoshopping Veronica.
- Dave Friedel
Careful Dave... you know what that would lead to.
- Jason Wong
Veronica is the new Terminator??
- imabonehead
Now her bicep is the BFG right? Just look at the size of that weapon!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
That kinda kicks ass
- Josh Haley
Boom, headshot
- Mike Nayyar
nic luk
- Sabir Ansari
Congratulations Bret on achieving all you have with Google, FriendFeed and Facebook. Looking forward to the news of the next journey. We're all proud of you. http://allthingsd.com/2012061...
thelarimarshop, Shakeel Mahate, Yolanda and 51 other people liked this
"He left the search giant to found FriendFeed, a once-popular social aggregator." ONCE POPULAR? :( :( :(
- Rochelle
Makes you wonder even more what will happen to this place now that Paul and Bret are gone.
- chrisofspades
Good point, Chris.
- Rochelle
I hope Chris didn't point out the beginning of the end.... again.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
BURN THIS PLACE TO THE GROUND
- Akiva
:(
- ؛ patrick
What Rochelle said. And what Louis Gray said squared.
- John Craft
Pretty interesting development. Curious to see what Bret does next.
- Mark Krynsky
The startup I would like to see is a service where I can feed in all of my RSS feeds and things, and people can comment on them, and the most recent comment or like bumps it to the top. To make it marketable, maybe ads on the side of the page can be sold that matches the discussion that people are having. For example, a discussion like this would pull up adds for Google + and Facebook and Ground Coffee. Wait, that is like FriendFeed without the ads.
- Joe Boone
LOL @Joe
- Harold Cabezas
from Android
People just looove telling you something you already know.
Kelli H., Morton Fox, Heather and 8 other people liked this
I knew that.
- Kristin
Water is wet.
- AJ Batac
It's only so you can say that you really identify with me so much.
- Hookuh Tinypants
tinypants, if identify means what I hope it means let's take this to DM.
- Micah
I just choked on my coffee. o.O
- Hookuh Tinypants
Ha!
- SAM
I just read the last four words of your post as if Gotye were singing them #ineedhelp
- Victor Ganata
Victor: http://friendfeed.com/micahwi...
- Micah
Cucumber-Mango Salsa Recipe | Free Online Recipes | Free Recipes - http://blogchef.net/cucumbe...
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manielse (Mark Nielsen), Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart, Sepi ⌘ سپی and 5 other people liked this
"This cucumber-mango salsa is great for picnics and parties, and is a perfect snack for the summer. This salsa includes ingredients such as mangos, cucumber, onion, cilantro, and jalapeno pepper. If you want you could add additional ingredients such as green or red bell pepper. You can serve this salsa with tortilla chips but it goes even better served on grilled chicken or other types of meat; it would be perfect to serve with Jerk chicken. In the near future I am going to use a salsa similar to this for Jerk burgers. If you are looking for a delicious and refreshing treat for summer, give this recipe a try. Enjoy."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
Meanwhile on FB, we're discussing US vs EU porn and how all men must watch ones vetted by females. So this is what goes on outside Twitter!
manielse (Mark Nielsen) and Gimminy liked this
Blue Cheese Portobello Burgers Recipe | Eating Well - http://www.eatingwell.com/recipes...
Mathew A. Koeneker, manielse (Mark Nielsen), Shevonne and 6 other people liked this
"Blue cheese and slow-cooked onions turn a grilled portobello into an indulgent portobello burger. Ruby port—a sweet fortified wine—gives extra depth of flavor to the caramelized onions."
- Katy S
from Bookmarklet
hmmmm....
- Michael W. May
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Laura Norvig, Caira Prox, hewoilsneed and 200 other people liked this
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it.
- Mark Trapp
very nice. great work!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-)
- Jesse Stay
nice!
- Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats!
- Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Nice progress here with this release!
- Micah
I love it!
- friday night
Why is wget questionable?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create
- Joe Dawson
doublepluslike
- Vezquex
curl FTW.
- Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone
- abdellah
from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed!
- EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key.
- Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version?
- Jesper Lind
LilaLoa: Cookie Crackers and a White Chocolate Cheesecake Ball - http://lilaloa.blogspot.com/2011...
Из сушёных грибов сиитакэ, manielse (Mark Nielsen), Lola Bean (Penguin) and 5 other people liked this
Kahlua Cake Trifles | Just Putzing Around the Kitchen - http://www.justputzing.com/2011...
manielse (Mark Nielsen), كيش مهر, Katy S and 4 other people liked this
"What is Kahlua cake, you ask? A trifle, basically. A decadent, chocolate-y trifle made up of Kahlua-soaked cake, chocolate pudding, whipped cream, and chopped up candy bar bits in alternating layers. I know. You’re drooling. It’s cool."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
OMG
- Spidra Webster
it started as goulash... - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Maitani, manielse (Mark Nielsen), Derrick and 3 other people liked this
...and then it evolved
- Michael W. May
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Louis Gray to Louis's feed, Paul Buchheit, Bret Taylor, Kevin Fox, Benjamin Golub, Jim Norris, gburd, Dan Hsiao, Ross Miller, Tudor Bosman
FestivusFeed: Start Festivus right with the traditional Airing of Grievances
Jim Norris, Maggie, Harold and 55 other people liked this
A festivusfeed theme, would have been awesome.
- Gimminy
I wonder what ever became of the pole?
- Kevin Fox
The pole was lost in a 2008 accident. http://friendfeed.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
The FestivusFeed icon remains: http://friendfeed.com/static...
- Louis Gray
When do we get FestivusBook? Can we make it available once a year through the Konami Code?
- Jesse Stay
BUMP
- Spidra Webster
Yay! When is the airing of the laundry? #doesntwatchSeinfeld
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
LOL It's the Airing of Grievances. I like laundry better, though.
- Anika
who bumped this ?? I have a grrivance for bumping old old threads !!
- Peter Dawson
I have a grievance that LG posted this and yet he's hardly here anymore. I challenge him to a feat of strength.
- Spidra Webster
I am always here, Spidra. I have a grievance that you assume the inaccurate.
- Louis Gray
can we get a logo change up in here?
- Laura Norvig
I wonder when realtime techniques will become a normal thing just like some AJAX techniques now. For example, when will there be a framework which allow you to do the same as FriendFeed's live-updating comments? (kind of "push" content).
Sue-do Nim, Bill Whetstone, Zackatoustra and 4 other people liked this
Some back-end things that FF has will not be easy to copy... But the back-and-forth between browser and server can be put into a generic library I think.
- Meryn Stol
Although I'm familiar with most web technologies as a programmer, I wouldn't have a clue how I would go about writing a *single user* friendfeed for example. That is, I would want a comment which I post in one browser window to be instantly visible in another.
- Meryn Stol
While the FF team has been quite innovative with their approach (I've never seen it being done before elsewhere) I know this part is not truly rocket science. If I'd delve into their JS, I could probably figure it out.
- Meryn Stol
aren't we describing Google Wave?
- Rahsheen?
Hmm good point Rahsheen... Well maybe that's the first framework then... I was thinking more of something lightweight as jquery. Jquery could really bring these realtime/push techniques to the masses. I think it could improve almost any site.
- Meryn Stol
I think "push" is the most important thing. "Realtime" makes one think of the stream... It's the push-updating of content that interest me the most. A kind of "syncing" of the content inside browser windows.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, the push idea on the browser is obviously difficult due to the statelessness. However, a quick polling cycle can make it feel like real-time. Ajax requests through something like JQuery can have a long-polling affect as well because the content on the server may take some time to return.
- Rob Diana
Current state of the art for open source "long polling" is http://orbited.org/
- Brett Slatkin
Rob, does FF do it with polling? You also have the technique of holding a HTTP connection open. I think that's done for web-based chat rooms often. There's a always-on HTTP connection.
- Meryn Stol
Bret, yes, I saw that a while ago. Maybe there need to be more Orbited "recipes"... E.g. "How to build a single user FriendFeed room".
- Meryn Stol
There is no such thing as 'PUSH' on the web - FF is just long polling, i.e. an AJAX request that is kept open, then re-opened when new data is returned. We do exactly the same with TweetMeme.
- Nick Halstead
Nick, yes I know there's technically no push, but a HTTP connection on which new data is trickling in is somewhat like push. There's an open connection the server can "write" to.
- Meryn Stol
Nick, what library have you used for Tweetmeme? Home-brew? You know of any tutorials to do this kind of thing?
- Meryn Stol
As for a framework - it is actually not hard to write, the common problem is that most 'typical' web servers such as Apache are not designed to leave that many open connections, NGINX is much more suitable - as it is very fast + extremely light weight
- Nick Halstead
There is documentation on the principals - but not much open source that is robust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Nick Halstead
Thanks Nick. This is very interesting. Well I hope that a a kind of "JPush" (ala JQuery) will come to be.
- Meryn Stol
Actually, you can use a forever-loading iframe to do 'PUSH'. Long-polling isn't the only option, though it's the most common and easiest to use method. Twitterfall uses different methods depending on what is available in the user's browser; potentially forever-iframes, XHR, long-polling, and ordinary polling.
- Jalada
wish there is an opensource project
- kang
What is your Last.fm URL? Add me here if you like: http://www.last.fm/user...
polymath22, batuhan icoz, ★ Soner Gönül and 42 other people liked this
Don't forget about the FriendFeed group on Last.fm too, more details here: http://ff.im/62vKL #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool, thanks, Nicholas. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Here's mine: http://www.last.fm/user...
- Shevonne
I was gonna say...doesn't the FF group on Last.fm take care of this?
- Spidra Webster
It's me! http://www.last.fm/user...
- MicahBear78
here I am: http://www.last.fm/user...
- sean808080
I finally found one person on my friends' list who we are "Very High"
- Shevonne
Mine : http://www.last.fm/user...
- Faraz Mullick
Low? Strange, I like (and listen to) most of your top artists. http://www.last.fm/user...
- Marcos
I think you befriended me on it, but mine's http://last.fm/user/vmlemon.
- Tyson Key
Crud - dropped this on the wrong FF post. Ah well! Sorry to whomever I apparently spammed! http://www.last.fm/user...
- Ciaoenrico
And frankly, I like adding friends with whom I have a low compatibility. It helps me hear music I never would have found in the first place. I never would have listened to a lot of my favorite music if someone hadn't said, "just try it."
- Ciaoenrico
Heh, "Music you have in common includes ABBA and Depeche Mode"...
- Tyson Key
Last.fm profile exchange? I'm at http://www.last.fm/user...
- Czar
Haggis, your link didn't work.
- Kol Tregaskes
Fossil Huntress, you have the highest compatibility so far. Low but still the highest. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ABBA and Depeche Mode are killer. Whose said that? Whom should I be friending there? :)
- Ciaoenrico
No me. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Czar, yep basically it is. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Your musical compatibility with koltregaskes is Very Low. Music you have in common includes Sneaker Pimps, Hybrid, Snake River Conspiracy, VAST and The Boxer Rebellion. (that's because I listen to a lot of obscure stuff) http://www.last.fm/user/app103
- April Russo
http://www.last.fm/listen... BTW, I send my Blip.FM feed to Last.FM. I fell asleep several times while listening to Blip, so there's some music in there that I don't necessarily like. But, for the most part, it's mine.
- Michael Fidler
http://www.last.fm/user... Here you go. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
user/tofu916 I LoVe last.fm!
- Tofu De la Moore
from BuddyFeed
http://www.last.fm/user... - I'm going to leave it playing scrobbing my 5 stars over lunch so it can log some of my favourite tracks
- Toby Graham
http://www.last.fm/user... - I share a lot of my "love it" back to twitter by funneling through here :-)
- Courtney Engle
I've listed my top 25ish songs of the moment here: http://ff.im/6diug if anyone is interested.
- Kol Tregaskes
If I played my 'best of the best' playlist one day would anyone be interested? It's 45 songs and iTunes tells me it's 4 hours. I can post a FF message when I start and finish and you can check the tunes out.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for all the friends request BTW, I work up this morning to 30 of them in my inbox. :-) I've added you all.
- Kol Tregaskes
Love Last.fm! I'm here: http://www.last.fm/user...
- Elizabeth Parmeter
Glenn, I get a high compatibility with you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I am going to add you right now...I am http://last.fm/user... :O)
- Harold Cabezas
Don't use it as much as I used to, but it's -> http://www.last.fm/user...
- Matthew Horton
I barely use last.fm as a site - but I scrobble all the time. Like everywhere else I am finalcut there.
- Bill Rawlinson
Bill, that's pretty much what I do. What's your URL? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
My Last.FM URL is http://www.last.fm/user....
- Thomas Ward
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you!! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Last.fm/user/iMJR
- Matt Ruiz
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
hi! http://last.fm/user/legaria I frankly don't see the value in adding friends there though ??'
- Franc, a rememberer
Franc, you can recommendations and more choice in your Neighbourhood radios stations.
- Kol Tregaskes
Welp. Ya'll have been friended and oddly enough I only had 4 with high compatibility. Lucky for me that means there is a lot more music our there that I need to be turned on to. Thanks, Kol! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mine is http://www.last.fm/user...
- Chris Rogers
hm - and looking at my last.fm page, I'd say I need to use my ipod more and Pandora a bit less ...
- Chris Rogers
oh. I get it, thanks Kol. I'm still finding my way through it.
- Franc, a rememberer
I signed up back in 2005: http://www.last.fm/user... Not using it anymore since they pulled that stunt. Scrobbling to http://alpha.libre.fm/user...
- Morgaine LeFaye
http://www.last.fm/user... Of course ;)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Bumping this post after seeing the new Friend Finder on Last.fm.
- Kol Tregaskes
Stir-Fried Pork with Black Beans and Green Beans Recipe - Viet World Kitchen - http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/blog...
manielse (Mark Nielsen), Adrian, #cryptic and 4 other people liked this
"The most remarkable aspect of this stir-fry was the seasoning of the pork. With just a bit of light and dark soy sauce and Shaoxing rice wine, the pork took on a wonderful velvety, deeply savory quality. Rory remarked that it was bordering being lamblike. The key was using a fat (well marbled) piece of pork shoulder. You know I love grilled pork shoulder steaks. Next time you’re at a market buy an extra one for this stir-fry. We gobbled it up with rice."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
Sweet and Spicy Sriracha Hot Wings - Jane Deere on Food, Cooking, Gardening - http://janedeereblog.blogspot.com/2011...
Ha3rvey #teamMonique, manielse (Mark Nielsen), Derrick and Tom-Yum liked this
"Sriracha is a Thai style hot sauce, also known as "rooster sauce" because of the rooster on the front of the bottle. It's made from sun-ripened chili peppers, sugar, garlic, vinegar, and salt. The familiar reddish orange bottle with the distinctive bright green bottle cap graces many culinary cabinets from chefs to the everyday home cook. It's one of my favorite sauces to add to almost every meal, from scrambled eggs to sandwiches and popcorn."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
Oh.
- Derrick
Just an Oh? :P
- imabonehead
I'm too stunned to really say anything else. ;)
- Derrick
Why are supermarket tomatoes so tasteless and terrible? "Tomatoland" is a book by Barry Estabrook written to answer that question. (NPR) - http://www.npr.org/2011...
A. T., WarLord, Sima and 19 other people liked this
Per Estabrook, here's why:
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from Bookmarklet
1. Up to a third of U.S. supermarket tomatoes are grown in Florida, the worst place in the country to grow them (too humid), where they're grown in sand (no soil nutrients).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
2. Farmers are paid by yield, not by taste. Over time, tomatoes have been bred purely for reliable yield. The tomatoes are picked green, and later turned red by exposure to ethylene gas.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
So sad :( It's so easy to grow tasty little tomatoes out on the patio!
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, yeah, I need to get on that! My family saw Rachel's tomatoes the other day and they looked amazing.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
What got me about this story on NPR was the author describing these green tomatoes with the consistency of apples bouncing off a truck onto his windshield where they weren't damaged at all, not even a bruise. Agribusiness has done something really terrible here, and I had no clue.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
The same is true for other fruits, although not quite to the same extent. What has won out in breeding for the last 50 years or so has been shipability, not taste. Fruit is also not picked tree-ripe. To some extent farmers have been trapped into this. What I mean is that even if it's a small farmer, not agribusiness, the farmer doesn't get paid anything extra for taste. In fact, the...
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- Spidra Webster
Spidra, that's interesting, and Estabrook makes the same point about farmers not being paid for taste. But what's fascinating to me for the case of tomatoes is how it gets transformed via gas from a green tennis-ball like object into the red squishy tomatoes that I cut up for use on a sandwich.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Ethylene gas is used for ripening throughout the industry. Even on crops that produce ethylene gas themselves. Bananas are picked hard and green and gassed once they reach the market. Some visiting kids picked or knocked off some of my tomatoes while still green. I've had them sitting next to some apples, which give off ethylene gas, and they've been turning red for the last week.
- Spidra Webster
Ah, had no idea.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Here's a good video illustration of how one off-gassing fruit helps another: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Spidra Webster
I'm told in California most of our tomatoes are produced by giant hydroponic setups. So we get them year around and they taste pretty good. I don't think any of them could be used in a baseball game.
- Todd Hoff
Kesha grew tomatoes on her patio garden again this summer. We had to give them away prior to the move last week but I've gotten to eat several of them the last couple of months. They were so good! I think I had forgotten how good fresh tomatoes tasted. So so good.
- DB, Just DB #TeamMonique
Boozy Banana Pound Cake - http://crepesofwrath.net/2011...
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Katy S, manielse (Mark Nielsen), Laura Norvig and 2 other people liked this
"In the interest of starting my week off right, I want to share this boozy banana pound cake with you. It’s not overwhelmingly alcoholic, but it’s got just the right amount to brush the stardust out of your eyes first thing in the morning, and best of all, it pairs perfectly with a cup of coffee or tea. This is a dense, buttery pound cake, so a small slice is all you need to get you going, which is great, as it freezes well and thaws quickly. I added some chocolate chips because, well, why not, along with cinnamon and cardamom. The crusty caramel bottom, which also includes bourbon, may be the best part of this pound cake. It crackles when you cut into it, as well as when you take a bite, and if that doesn’t draw you to this cake, I’m not sure what will!"
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
Oh my, this sounds awesome!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Honey Mustard Chicken Recipe | Free Online Recipes | Free Recipes - http://blogchef.net/honey-m...
Tom-Yum, manielse (Mark Nielsen), Russian Space Lizard and 4 other people liked this
"There is nothing complex about this recipe. Just brush the chicken with honey mustard sauce and grill until it’s done. It can’t get much easier than that. The sauce combines ingredients such as Dijon mustard, mayonnaise, honey, and steak sauce. This is perfect for summer cookouts. If you want even more honey mustard flavor let the chicken marinade in the sauce for awhile. Delicious! Enjoy."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
Orange and Thyme Chicken with Crispy Parmesan Potatoes - http://crepesofwrath.net/2008...
manielse (Mark Nielsen), Andrew C (✓), imabonehead and 6 other people liked this
I made this last night while I had some other stuff cooking. We tasted it, and we really liked it, but we are saving it for dinner tomorrow night. One change, I used bone-in chicken thighs, so the cooking time was longer.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
from Bookmarklet
Also, I didn't make the potatoes. :)
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
I'm saving this recipe. Sounds great.
- Trish R
It's pretty good. I have another chicken and orange juice recipe that is a little simpler, though. I'll post it a bit later.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
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