but it can't replace the laptop for the simple reason that I cannot open / create and save files on iPhone.
- vijay
I bring my laptop a lot less , because of the iphone ..
- johnpiercy
aye, same as Vijay.. the iphone is good as a reading device and the occasional pics, but for any real work you're still gonna need a laptop or a desktop.
- alphaxion
I agree, the iphone or similar sized device will be the main computer, with the ability to plug in to larger screens or keyboards when needed (just like you do with the laptop now). As more and more of what we do goes into the cloud, the less we need to carry with us.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
I don't think the cloud will take over to that extent... I still need my full systems for video editing
- alphaxion
The headline's a bit misleading, isn't it? The writer isn't really talking about replacing his laptop, he's talking about being able to do without it for a short period of time. So no, a smartphone can't (completely and permanently) replace a laptop, even if you can do quite a bit on a Webkit-equipped smartphone.
- John Craft
I mean aside from the supercomputer that will run our house ;-)
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
In all seriousness... give me a small bluetooth keyboard and I wouldn't take my laptop out of my office again...
- Johnny Worthington
I don't even bring my laptop home with me at night thanks to the iPhone. Just sayin...
- Drew Lucas
@Zee - Thats true, but I desire the true feeling of TextExpander. Having TapIt4Me work in sms/safari/etc would make the device much more powerful.
- Joshua
short answer: yes -- long answer: yes, my iphone has replaced my laptop since december 2008 - i traveled for the holidays without it as a test and haven't looked back since then. i only do serious travelling a handful of times a year, and my laptop is an old 14inch G4 iBook - but still - the iphone is smaller and goes with me everywhere ... if google voice activation or wolfrma|alpha...
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- Chris Heath
Sorta. It has a VNC, SSH , and Remote Desktop client.
- Rodfather
No, a physical keyboard is needed. One can type faster with a physical keyboard.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
@p248: i can type pretty fast on the iphone touchboard - it's not 60 or 80 wpm, but it's good enough
- Chris Heath
and there's no way that it's going to replace a desktop, but for on the go the iphone is the best small computer out there (imho, ymmv, etc etc)
- Chris Heath
My ideal would be a very compact just-a-phone and a tablet or netbook the same form factor as a Franklin planner, but with 3G-style always-on connection. I like my Android phone, but I'm too fat-fingered and dislike tinytext too much to do much serious work with it.
- Kevin Shaum
No, and i don't think it is intended to.
- Geoff Schultz
I tried living off my iphone for a week while I was in Europe this winter. I really don't think it's there yet. Maybe in a version or two things will have changed.
- Joshua Schnell
Not as an absolute replacement but I do find myself going to many meetings without my laptop, since I have the Touch.
- Kfir Pravda
Not a hope, design, video editing etc... No way can I achieve any of this without my laptop. Heck, even typing this comment would take a heck of a lot longer , so no way.
- Paul OFlaherty
No way, but it has a place, and I can do a heck of a lot on my iPhone.
- Rick Cogley
For the most part, yes. I even put it to the test during a week of vacation, the week OS3 was released. What I missed most was the ability to upload pictures and video from my digital cameras. I think a 3GS would have made these issues moot.
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
I should also add that an iPhone can replace a laptop "for a short period of time" - current models could not permanently take the place of a true laptop.
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
Not for a very very long time. But, it does keep me from getting a netbook.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Only if used in combination with a desktop.
- Miss Elle
With docstogo (once they update with excell editing) all i'm missing is OpenVpn and I'd ditch laptop outside of the office.
- Jamie Craig
from Alert Thingy
Not until I can play WoW and run Photoshop on it.
- Alix Whitmire
In some ways it can. In many parts of the world where families can't afford both a cell phone and a laptop for their kids going to college, they're choosing smart phones (like the iPhone). It's affordable and it gives them all the tools they need. This is one of the reasons that the mobile web is expected to eclipse all other modes of access in the near future.
- Michael Fidler
If its an iPhone, I can do most of what I do on my netbook or work laptop, but its sometimes like looking at the night sky through a telescope. Its an awesome view, but sometimes you need to lay down in the grass and look up at the whole sky to get the big picture. Sometimes looking at a small screen (field of view) can be limiting.
- Chris Sparno
My iPhone replaces my laptop on vacation, but if I'm away on business I still have to do too much heavy work (spreadsheets mainly), that the iPhone is not yet an option. But I love it for vacation time!
- Marc Dierens
No a 1st Gen iPhone can not replace a MacBook. Even though I foolishly sold my white MacBook to get the iPhone just about 2 years ago. I now have an aluminum MacBook and can't imagine repeating my earlier transgression. There is something about having the full keyboard, wide display that a touchscreen can't replace. I even went with a HP touchscreen laptop and that wasn't sufficient. Maybe I am just a MacBook addict.
- aTechDude
Probably not, not with virtual screen and keyboard, maybe iPhone 14thGen...:)
- Jonghyon Sohn
my iPod Touch is a fun travel device, allowing me to keep in contact with the Cloud. to do real work (design, development, long-form writing) I still need a laptop.
- jbrotherlove
I can't remember who said it - but "the iphone is the client, the mac is the server" is a great saying that is becoming more and more true
- Scott Gould
I use my Ipod touch in all seminars and leave my laptop at home!
- Frode Stenstrøm
Yes it can. My iPhone has replaced my Netbook.
- Svartling
another over enthusiastic doozy to try on for size: "My experience accessing the sites, people, and info that I want is easier and more pleasurable via my iPhone over my laptop."
Actually, I find that around the house my iPhone has almost replaced my laptop. I only use my laptop if I find myself with a lot of time on my hands.
- Matt Baron
same thing for me, inside the house, my ipod touch has replaced most of the laptop's use (to check mail, surf, twitter,etc.). Won't edit photos in here tho ;)
- moogs
Whenever my wife occupies the MacBook, the iPhone is the device to use. My first vacation with the iPhone was one where I did not use the MacBook, the last vacation did not even involve my MacBook. iPhone is all you need...
- Marc Dierens
I'm on a vacation now where I'm not missing my laptop, made me realize this - nice colorful buttons directly to all the places I need.
- Marko Bon
Definitely do most of my surfing on the weekend on my iPhone
- Nick O'Neill
My iPhone is significantly easier and more pleasurable to browse the net on than my Eee is. Surfing the net can be a very painful process on the Eee, sometimes
- David Adam
I think it's important that he has people who know the internet (it wouldn't be a good trait if he/she didn't do that, and I'd consider that behind the times) but I don't think the actual president needs to know how to do that. Frankly, there are a MUCH more important things that I feel the president should master than the web.... I might actually consider the president to be wasting time if he decided to take that task on just to take it on.
- Kate Brodock
from twhirl
The President will never need to use their own computer while in office; however, knowing how the web functions, its role in the economy, and how 90+% of the country uses it is very important in the 21stC
- Nicholas Molnar
from twhirl
Seriously... the president needs to pick good advisers and have experience in government. Hire someone to explain Facebook to him. The main decisions involve foriegn policy, not whether twitter is better than plurk.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Nope. But he should understand Web/tech regulatory issues.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Wouldn't the President need to know how to use email to communicate with the White House staff?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I think the President of the United States in the 21st century should be capable of operating a computer and making use of mainstream internet services.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Is pushing "The Button" considered computer use?
- Andrew Smith
they should know how to read e-mail & google.
- clarke thomas
I think a President does need to know how to use a computer. Question is, would he/she use a PC or a Mac
- Richie Escovedo
So, so many more important aspects of what makes someone a good leader for a whole nationt han whether they can surf the frickin' web.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
I think there are some very important issues that my grandma does not understand, because she doesn't understand computers and the web
- Charlie
from twhirl
Technology is already a big part of our lives and will only grow. If a President can't even operate a computer, they are out of touch with the people they represent. That's the truth.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
This is 2008, if you can't surf the web and do other basic tasks with a computer, you are out of touch in a big way. For most people, that doesn't matter. For the president, you don't get to be excused.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Each Human needs to know how to use a Web. Is President a Human?:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Not sure if the president needs to know how to use the computer but I am pretty sure that he needs to know that he can't keep a war going for 100 years.
- Krishnan Subramanian
I would think that it can be expected that a Presidential candidate should have had the time and the willingness to have learned how to use a computer before the duties of the President PERHAPS make it irrelevant.
- Matthew Imakyure
from twhirl
Yes. Not having even basic computer skills in 2008 betrays a lack of curiosity and intellectual rigor.
- Chris Baskind
Although my vote would depend more on the vision and positions of a candidate, I think that to be in the position of the most powerful person on the earth, you would need to have at least a minimum amount of knowledge, not just about PC's and the internet BTW. Imagine Medvedev or Putin sending an IM message that goes lost without a reply :-)
- Marc Dierens
Of course. 80% of the country uses computers, and over 50% is on the Internet. It is a way of reaching his audience, the voters. It's now part of basic literacy skills. Does he have to spend the day online? Of course not.
- Francine Hardaway
Yes. I'll second Chris Baskind's comment.
- Eric Thompson
This is a dumb question and a non-issue. It should be: Can the Candidate function as an everyday American using the tools, institutions and opportunities available to everyday people?
- Andrew Feinberg
Andrew - Isn't that a bit harsh? There are no dumb questions? It is an issue whether or not you think it should be. To answer the question, I would like to see overall literacy and competency in my elected officials.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
No. I'm tired of the issue being parsed and based on videos and sound-bites when the underlying one is whether or not the candidate is aware of the issues that everyday Americans face. It's one thing to be driven around and have people take care of your correspondence, advise you, and speak for you. That's ok. But you still need to be able to drive a car to really understand traffic and fill up a gas tank to see the price. Remember George H.W. Bush at the grocery store in 1992?
- Andrew Feinberg
So by that logic, you would throw out McCain or Obama?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Neither of which, I am pretty sure, fill up their own cars with gas.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Although (and I can't believe I'm having this conversation) Obama's filled his tank a lot more recently than McCain has. But yes, a leader ought to be reasonably clued into what his constituents are doing / how they are interacting, etc. McCain's cluelessness about the 'net is obvious and a bit troubling. Having said that, I was annoyed when MSM was giving McCain crap for saying he "watched" Drudge, implying that he was describing it the same way as a TV show. That was unfair, because a lot of us...
- Anthony Citrano
..would say we "watched" people online who we found interesting. I don't know whether McCain meant it that way or not, but I'm as sick of seeing people unfairly jump on McCain as I am the reverse. Let's stick to the real issues instead of this "gotcha" shit.
- Anthony Citrano
There are more important things to worry about, but not gonna lie.. if my grandma can figure it out, I'd definitely love to be confident that our president would be able to check his email in a dire situation.
- justine
The bigger issue is the one Andrew brought up. I want to know that the President has some basic understanding of the issues that will be coming up in the next 4-8 years. Those include amongst -many- others: mid-east politics, oil, stem-cells/genetic engineering, and yes regulatory issues surrounding the Internet. It's hard to deal with anything if you rely completely on your advisers.
- Steve Spalding
Steve: scratch Mideast politics, as well as information technology, as a domain in which John McCain possesses any expertise -- he doesn't even understand the differences between Shiites and Sunnis. Basically, Lieberman whispers into McCain's ear, and McCain produces garbled renditions with a single message: WAR, WAR, WAR! Scary, considering that the Iraq War is costing Americans trillions of dollars while playing perfectly into the hands of Muslim fundamentalists.
- Sean McBride
No, let him try to learn how to run a country first. Oops, silly me, ti's too late, he's leaving soon!
- Ian May
Yes, they do, it is an important issue, the internet is quickly becoming or currently is the major means of communication in the world a basic lack of understanding of such a tool of communication and commerce
- Justin Yost
Presidents have to know how to use computers & Internet. So they can understand how these tools can (have to) impact on the country and on the whole world's future (present!), regulation issues and so on.. a good balancing is required.. and it depends on the country in question. Presidents -have to- understand: they have to use them, and it is really important that they have good advisers.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thierry - McCain's advisers are dominated by the same neoconservatives who engineered the Iraq War. So not to worry.
- Sean McBride
Yes, for the same reasons that I would expect a political leader to know how to use a telephone.
- Andy Murdoch
they should flip the rules- and allow drugs in cycling- in fact have a segment before the race showing everyone lined up to get their shots.
- Nathan Eckenrode
I am not sure what the answer to drugs is. But they can not solve their problems. They have been struggling with this for close to a decade. They have had more than enough time to figure it out. Plus I am not sure that their test are always conclusive. I still am not convinced Floyd Landis did anything wrong a few years ago.
- Franklin Pettit
Don't know what the answer is honestly. A friend suggested to have 2 Tours, one where you could take any drugs you wanted, and one where you can't (don't know how that is going to ban the cheaters tough), but something has to happen at some point. I'm loosing interest in cycling every day...
- Marc Dierens
it is a problem in all sports at all levels unfortunately - its a follow the money and glory issue, sacrificing tomorrow's health for today's success
- mike "glemak" dunn
“LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS? The fact that there is life on planet earth means one of two absolutes: 1) We are unique and this perfect condition only occures here and now 2) The universe is nearly infinite in solar systems and time, there is life here, there is life elsewhere. Do you agree with 1 or 2?
I go with response 2: (I'm sure someone will make up an option 3 and 4). My only caveat is that life will not represent anything as we know it, the beings will have evolved for their particular environment.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Has to be 2. For this to be the only planet in the entire universe in the whole of history to have ever had life is ridiculous IMO
- Colin Walker
from fftogo
Option 3 that someone somewhere else is going to make.
- Yuvi
I'm with you in the "2" camp. A near-infinite universe offers nearly infinite possibilities for life elsewhere IMO.
- Kevin C. Tofel
the universe can be finite and have another planet that has a life in it. can't it?.
- jokerred
I believe that there are at least small microorganisms on other planets, but no advanced life. At least not at human level.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
I started thinking about this after I read a Stephen Baxter novel. I'd recommend checking out the Fermi Paradox for all kinds of mind-exploding explanations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Mike
#2 also provides for a vastly more interesting universe. That's where I'd put my flag.
- Steve Spalding
Does "life" have a definition for this question?
- Brian Sullivan
there is not a chance we're all alone in the universe #2 I'm a believer
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Despite the lack of evidence, I have faith. #2
- Ken Sheppardson
#2, hell they'll probably discover some type of life on mars.
- felix
I have to agree with #2 many other planets have life probably much more advanced than ours...Mars has water!....plus don't you watch x-files?
- Larry Lewis
While I can't say for certain, I would place all my money on option #2.
- Michel Savoie
There are lots of other solar systems, and just in ours, we have one hit and two near misses. #2 ftw.
- Eric Hamilton
I'll take option 2. The funny thing is that while I don't need any proof to believe and accept the probability of life outside our planet, I DO have the hardest time reconciling the concept of God (or gods) prevalent in various religions. Yet with all of the sci-fi/fantasy and various religious stories created throughout the ages, there has to be some additional presence. Why am I accepting of it in a sci-fi context and not in a religious one?
- Sally: gift wrapper
There's no logic to No. 1.... That said, while I subscribe to No. 2, I think intelligent life is still a diamond in the rough. I don't think we're going to go to every star in our neighborhood and find playmates. I actually like the dramatization done on Galactica where they go to plenty of worlds, see lots of plants and other creatures but never run into other intelligent beings like themselves.... It's a big universe....
- Chris Reed
Put me in the #2 camp. Very arrogant to believe that we are it.
- Steve
"The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding In all of the directions it can whizz As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is. So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth, And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth." Monty Python, The Galaxy Song.
- Colin Walker
from fftogo
#2, for sure. In an infite universe we are unique? such arrogance
- Sarah Perez
I think this is a false dichotomy. Perhaps the universe is not infinite, just very very big. It's still possible that other life exists. How about the idea that the physical properties the whole universe are well-suited for life and that this itself is somewhat miraculous?
- Dan Kaplan
Dan Kaplan, true. I said 'nearly' infinite as I'm not sure either.
- Jeremiah Owyang
#3 - "Life is an illusion; lunchtime doubly so" - Douglas Adams
- Mark Dykeman
I agree with #2 and #1. In an infinite universe, chances for same conditions on another planet which enabled life on earth are high. After origin of life, unique conditions of earth, and its environment, caused specific species and adaptations to survive but not others. Chances of all these variables being present exactly as such in another planet are less probable.
- Pre Priyadarshane
#2, but life may not have always existed, nor will it always exist.
- Mike Reynolds
Webroot, source for my anti-virus/anti-spyware tools, is now promoting remote backup services.(Jeremiah, they haven't offered to pay me to use their service yet, though!)
- dennis d. mcdonald
when I did tech support, my friend and coworker Sam's first question used to be 'did you restore from your latest backup?' And that was in 1995!
- Phil G
I don't worry about using a external harddrive, you can us HP upline, and it works great. (http://upline.com)
- Aaron Myers
I use http://www.carbonite.com for continuous backup into the cloud. Ninety bucks gives me peace of mind that if my house is ever smote off the face of the earth, my data lives on.
- Rob Clark
I let SuperDuper! make a bootable clone of my HDD to an external drive every night. It's a great program.
- Tom Harrison
I used to do Jungledisk, but it got too expensive (>500GB total). My boss was kind of enough to let me stick a Drobo at the office, so now I just upload to that over the VPN for offsite backup. Plus I mirror all my local drives.
- Eric P
Apple Time Machine Backup in the cloud? Anybody offer this?
- David Henderson
from twhirl
Backup is a never-ending task. Do you guys have an automated schedule even for personal data?
- Winston Teo
I just got a new Drobo with 4Tb for local and also use JungleDisk and S3 to back up important stuff to the cloud in case of fire, etc
- Jimmy Gardner
... and don't forget the sunscreen either... Oh, yes. And remember to floss.
- Michael Markman
How timely. I usually back up my data every Sunday, but I forgot to do it today because I was rushing to dinner. Backing up as I write this.
- Joey Lo
I do it almost daily to S3 using jungledisk, so awesome and cheap.
- Jim Kukral
from twhirl
I have a 1TB Time Capsule for my iMac and MacBook, and a 500GB external HD for my MacBook Pro. My most important docs are also on iDisk.
- Marc Dierens
I use Acronos True Image to do a full drive image backup of all of the drives in my desktops and laptop. At the moment, these drive images all fit on one 1TB external drive. I then duplicate the backup sets onto a 2nd 1TB drive and take it off site. I use MS sync toy to mirror important data and photos between two machines which acts as my interim backup between monthly drive images. This has workes very well for me and saved my butt one time when Corp IT F#$% my machine at work.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Ever though of using an Online Backup service. Shameless plug www.servosity.com
- Damien Stevens
I was a band geek, very creative, in Jazz, and very social. Got into trouble as a senior, broke a heart, had mine broken in return. I always though I'd be an architect, the internet was barely in the back of my mind, let alone the front.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I was a total geek in high school, and had a very very close circle of a few friends. I still have those friends, and am still pretty geeky, but have found my social side, which has helped me get to where I am.
- Michel Savoie
Quiet, not very sociable. Was never with the "in crowd". Somewhat of a geek, but more of a pre-computer era geek. Had plans to be a naval architect because my Dad was one, but that never panned out. Now I'm a Software QA Specialist for a global high-tech software corporation. Never would have predicted where I am today.
- Scott
I was a major geek. Do you remember that guy who got called to the principal's office to reset his digital watch every time DST began or ended? That was me. I could solve a Rubik's cube in just under a minute. And I played offensive guard on the football team. I always knew I'd be doing computer stuff, but I had no idea where it would take me. Didn't even hear about the internet until my first Unix class in college.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
I was a total band geek (trumpet) as well. Sr. year, Youth Orchestra, Symphonic Band, Concert Band, Jazz Band and music theory. My favorite part (still) is improvisation. However, tech is my other passion and that's the direction I went.
- Ben Thomas
Class clown. Wanted to be Stephen King. Turned out to be a rodent who writes.
- Sprague D
Can't describe myself in H.S. - I was too complex then. Yes, in some ways and No in others. I expected not to have to stay in the box I kept get putting in by my adolescent peers - and that came true. But the rest of my life is and has always been an unpredictable adventure.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Trumpet player and band geek champion. Artsy fartsy and theater dweeb. Always drawing on my notes and folders rather than paying attention in class. Didn't much care for the majority of my classmates but was lucky enough to be left alone by the bullies and jocks. Had no idea what I wanted to do in life but always trusted my gut and listened to my heart. Don't think I ever expected to be...
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- David Murray
Lots of trumpet players, me Trombone, low brass section leader
- Jeremiah Owyang
When I look back at high school, I can't believe how eccentric I already was. Sure, a lot of it was typical teenage posing but some of it was astonishingly strange even then. I had always expected to pretty much be where I am now although I expected it to have happened sooner. The only thing I've not yet done is to have become a published author. It's been my lifelong dream since first grade that's constantly been the victim relegated by transient hobbies and computer programming. Need to get back on track.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I was fat but somehow one of the "popular" crowd, though I never felt like I belonged there...or anywhere. I was nicknamed Encyclopedia or Britannica. I was good at making people laugh, and used that as my primary survival skill. I had a horrendous home life, and always was desperate to escape. I hoped that I'd travel and live in other worlds, maybe even expected to. I am always amazed and glad that that's exactly what I am doing. Every day, I am astonished to be where I am. Very blessed.
- Jackie Danicki
I was a computer geek then and I still am now :-)
- Jason Herald
I was Gravy Dave, started an underground newspaper, led student strikes, smoked a lot of reefer and did lots of other drugs. Participated in student govt, ran for class president (lost), held a big rock concert, dropped out, went back, managed to get a bit of education in all that. It was a funny time, late 60s early 70s, that's actually the kind of stuff people were doing then, if you can believe it. Had my own apartment too. Got in a lot of trouble and made a bunch. I was one of the in crowd an a-lister.
- Dave Winer
In High School I was a Band nerd, Dungeons and Dragons nerd and generally shunned by nearly everyone. I was fortunate enough to have a few close friends, but high school was mostly a nightmare. I didn't really begin to become the person I am today until I decided in college that it was high time to have a girl friend and start a grown-up life. Back in high school I never would have thought I'd be a programmer today living in a nice house with a pool married to a beautiful nerdy woman.
- Internet's Tad
I was a total theater geek and bookish nerd ... and while career-wise the place I am now bears no resemblance to anything I'd imagined, from what I've been told by folks who've known me since I was a mere pup, I'm not all that different. Once a geeky-nerd ... always a geeky-nerd, I think ... and proud of it too!
- Cathy Brooks
I was very much a NON-techie and never imagined that I would someday "grow-up" to recruit technologists. I was pretty active in virtually every imagineable activity in school...played tennis for the school team, part of the weight-lifting team, Student Gov. VP in my Senior year. I had lots of friends and tended to mingle with a fairly eccletic crowd. I entered college, and pretty much replicated what I had accomplished in HS,...VP of SGA, Pres. of my Fraternity, etc. Life turned out good for me.
- Michael
Jeremiah, the funny thing is if you had told me I'd ever do anytihng with computers I'd have laughed. I really looked down on the kids who hung out in the computer lab at the school (we actually had one, even then). Never in a million years would I have guessed I'd go down that path.
- Dave Winer
Big athlete, smart but only top 20% student in class rank (put in some effort, kid!). Voracious reader, especially SciFi and Fantasy. Thought my career would take me toward sales or banking/business, but it turned out it took me right back to public education.
- BISQ
I probably do need to add that I was the only girl in Computer Club in high school tho - back then, I was a serious anomaly.
- Lucretia Pruitt
I think I'm the same now as I was in high school. I won "best personality" which is to say - I'm nice and can be a bit of a push-over. I just want other people to be happy. I never thought of myself as technical at all. I didn't start getting into tech until I worked at Wired.com. In fact, in high school I never would have thought I'd be into journalism. I got into that at UC Berkeley while majoring in philosophy.
- David Cohn
This one time at Band Camp... Actually I wasn't in the Band, but worse the War Games club. Fortunately, though I was in the nerd section, I hung out with the Football team and got to be in the "in crowd".
- Stephen Terlizzi
@davewiner I'm not sure it has anything to do with computers, just an independent spirit we've come to enjoy from you.
- Jeremiah Owyang
. academics nerd. excelled in English, history, philosophy, was on school newspaper , nights/weekend job at dept store as sales, model & stylist, eclectic fashionista that was outside current HS style. totally not in the right spot. HS was *boring*.. I hung out with friends who were 5-10 years older. went to big univ & didn't follow my dream-- but am now.
- Stevie
In high school I was a nerd. I loved technology and I love literature so it made sense that I would be involved in the Web with my writing. I was in high school in the mid nineties but I was one of the few kids with my own site and it was a poetry/literature site to boot. I never would have guessed that I would be doing plagiarism work, I had always seen myself as a future author, but I knew my future would involve the Web and writing in some way...
- Jonathan Bailey
School always got in the way of my education. I played football and helped establish radio station WJSV-FM
- paul mooney
Kinda disappointing, I don't see any of my friends from high school anymore. I never had a lot of friends, but we kinda split up after graduation.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
Moderately accepted, but usually on the outside looking in. Moved around quite a bit back then, so didn't establish serious connections until late HS. Comic book geek, skinny with doofy glasses. Didn't care much for the "popular" crowd (though some were seriously cute) and eagerly awaited graduation and exodus. Did end up meeting my wife in HS and that was good! Thought of being an architect; improved upon that by becoming a Landscape Architect. :-)
- JA Castillo
Complete geek, stuck the deep south. Played in a local metal band. Got out as soon as I turned 18, never looked back.
- Neal Jansons
I'm commenting since I am still in high school. I'm on our band (includes marching and concert) in addition to jazz band and performed in the pit for Beauty and the Beast last year. I'm friends with the popular and unpopular kids and my best friend is a popular kid. I can (apparently) make people laugh and listen well. To be honest, I don't know what people see in me because I think I'm pretty boring most of the time. Life's a mystery. You just have to roll with it.
- Zach Flauaus
Attended high school for smarty/arty kids (no sports) & then performing arts school for theater. Lots of good friends, parties, etc. Thought I'd be an actress/singer very involved in politics. Not surprised I wound up in film production & now multimedia, but wound up on the corporate side of it by falling ass over teacups and finding I liked where I'd landed. That the corporation has anything to do with IT continues to amuse me on a daily basis as I'm lucky to get my laptop in the 'on' position.
- dfugate
Fat, shy, too smart for my own good with an unlikely group of friends made up of gay kids, straight kids, questioning kids, black kids, white kids, asian kids (and various mixtures of the three). In ROTC, secretly really into ROTC, and a fiendish facility with foreign languages. Was in Spanish Club, Latin Club, on the yearbook and newspaper staffs. Except for the ROTC part (though I still wish I'd gone into the Marines), and the clubs, I'm still pretty much the same.
- cecily
The answers here were fun to read. Not sure about the etiquette for commenting on friendfeed. I just do it when something is interesting even if I don't know the person. So my apologies if doing so is out of line. In high school I was pretty much the same in that regard. Much better at asking forgiveness than permission. The former provides so much opportunity for practice. I fully expected that I would be dead before now, but people are so forgiving!
- Boo
Harvey Simmons, if I'd known you in high school I would've had a huge crush on you. Football player and a geek? Be still my heart.
- cecily
High geek factor, although at the time (1985-1991) not because of computer skills, just the looks ;-) Nothing special during my high school years, better than average student, although I did not have much trouble getting the right grades. Spent all of my high school years playing competitive snooker, so I did not party, practiced and played tournaments each weekend. Did a lot of catching up in later years ;-)
- Marc Dierens
I was expecting to be a bit further down the line, but the path has never changed
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
interesting thread - i split my high school years between hawaii where i played football and tennis for the school and surfed ever swell & upstate new york where i played football & hockey and hung out w/ the physic geeks who were all musicians (i was not) - i had good grades, sat etc... & took classes at local college while still in hs, also hung out in their comp lab - mainframe w/ punch cards - i was an enigma, still am ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Hmmm.... high school... I was "different", that's for sure. I wasn't in any clicks, but I was always invertently starting new trends. I never really had any expectations as to where I would be in 20 years, but I didn't expect to have been a world traveler, nor hold down some of the jobs I've had. It's been an interesting ride!
- Dominique
I am already spending way more time in Twitter and FF than on Facebook, and I suspect this trend will continue, especially if every time I log into Facebook I have to ignore these stupid requests...
- Marc Dierens
Ben it is really hard to say, but Face Book is a walled garden! In the long run walls cave in and a community is destroyed! Here on FF we may disagree, fight, even raise hell, but we come to turns with each other and respect each other! It is all out in the open, for everyone to see!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Marc, i share the same pattern with you. Twitter, FF and Plurk are where i'm spending most of my time on, rather than Facebook. Many of my friends lost interests in facebook as well. but some of them still love to stay long time there, as Facebook offer limited storage for photos.
- Jansen Lu
Facebook has become overpolluted with viral applications. It's lost the KISS principle. I see it fading, as will MySpace. I see social networks being like nightclubs - they have a shelf life.
- Craig Thomler
it will eventually plateau, as MySpace has, perhaps within the next 6 months. What I don't know is whether the decline will be slow as with MySpace, or quick.
- Duncan Riley
Facebook has reached a plateau, at least as far as its relevance is concerned. It will be around for a good long time but I doubt it will be anywhere near as vibrant as it was 9 months ago.
- Steve Spalding
Wow, we all seem to agree with each other! I like the Night Club metaphor, it is really right on spot here!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
It will be one of many social networking providers, who are working with a standard (social) networking service of the internet, which grow up from the data portability initiative.
- Sebastian Küpers
within 5 years, desired, acquired, faded, upbraided, reorged, deformed, non-performing, storm warning, gone.
- Alan Wilensky
from twhirl
I definitely think it will continue to grow & be bigger & better than Facebook. It's the social network I use most often (that's not including aggregators, microblogs, etc).
- ChaCha Fance
it depends, most likely it will devolve into a mess like MySpace and a more usable site will open up.
- Darren Daz Cox
Facebook is old hat, tiresome crap trying to re-invent itself with new functionality which doesn't reach the user cuz of all the blinding spammy apps!! Prediction: FB will continue to grow (it IS mainstream now) and will loose luster like LinkedIn already has.
- Susan Beebe
Facebook has acheived mass popularity....something that Twitter/Friendfeed etc only aspire to do. Annoying as it is Facebook will be modestly bigger in two years and be worth over $15 b unless, of course, the American economy crumbles entirely.
- chantelle
from twhirl
@Susan - LinkedIn lost its luster? Please explain. It just raised a billion and I have tons of people joining the network still.
- Ben Parr
Ben: I have nearly 1,000 "connections" so obviously I know LinkedIn well; in fact, I am the founder of the FriendFeed Friends Group http://www.linkedin.com/e... so do respect the app. But did you notice that they have built a walled garden with zero integration with any other app? This is a stale socnet strategy, maybe just me but I think they need to open up their app, e.g. status updates would be so easy to update via twitter... hello?!
- Susan Beebe
Ben, is there away to message all group members at one time? I am still lost on LinkedIn!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
@Igor - One of LinkedIn's great weaknesses is its lack of features and search for Groups. I've heard from internal sources they're working on it, but they've got so much on their plate. But so far, no. I'd still like to message my 200,000 member Facebook group, but that still can't be done.
- Ben Parr
I have concrete proof FB will fail: Former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey left the site after his posts on people's walls started showing up on gossip sites. If that's not a harbinger...
- David Shankbone
David, there is something about the Internet you need to realize! Nothing is private, not even emails!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I think that's why he left. I think people are just going to have to own up to themselves more with social media, cameraphones, Twitter, e-mail, Gawker, etc. Mine as well just be honest about yourself lumps and all. It's freeing.
- David Shankbone
I hope it will be only Friendfeed soon. Doesn't anybody else get tired of all these different kind of networks? Sometimes monopoly is a good thing. Let's all head over to MSN ;-)
- Rutger Blom
from twhirl
mine is a little more extreme - friendfeed mostly & twitter rarely - i do push my ff's to twitter & i check my twitter replies & dm sometimes - i would like to get to the point where all my friends are in friendfeed and i no longer need to go to twitter at all - i used to like whales ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agree. They are different and both ueful in different ways. I see no need to choose between them just yet. I'm using Plurk too, which is different again - very informal conversation.
- jjprojects
Disagree. Reason? Time. I don't have time for multiple services. For me, right now at least, it's FF.
- Steve Rubel
You don't need one to use the other but they sure are handy to use together
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Haven't maid up my mind yet, but it seems that the different services and their approaches fill different needs. Undecided for now!
- tekspectator
Exactly! Why does it have to be "either" "or"?
- Steve
I definitely agree. It is frustrating to have people insist one is better than the other. Two totally different beasts.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
could not agree more. probably the best twitter, FF comment in a long time.
- Bastian
Agree! At this point, FF's comment functionality isn't good enough to replace Twitter for me. With Twhirl, it doesn't seem like tool overload to use both.
- jen robinson
from twhirl
Apart from twitter's SMS interface.. what is missing (for you) in FF? @ ?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Its FF only. reaons against Twitter : (a) Twitter whaling to often (b) not easy to track/thread twitter replies together. FOR FF (1) FF stable (2) FF Conov enabler/agggreagator (3) I like it better :)-
- Peter Dawson
An integrated solution with both would be best. Twittering out of FriendFeed - that's my dream!
- Matthias Schwenk
Oh definitely agree. They are symbiotic beasts
- Deepak Singh
Agree absolutely, when social media tools complement, the sum become greater than the parts
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
@ Matthias you can comment back from FF in Twitter already...
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
and, and, and... there's Utterz, Flickr, blog, etc. etc. etc. -- so, yes. It all goes together. FriendFeed has a chance to become a hub (the way Twitter is foe me now, but more so), if it can somehow tame itself
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
Funny how this comes to my attention now as Twitter is not updating for me, but FF is. I love how I can reply to FF via @Twhirl. That is a dynamic combintion.
- Tracy Lee Carroll
from twhirl
@Matthias I wonder if someone has created a tool that takes your own FF posts and makes a tweet from it? You'd need to turn off tweets in FF otherwise there would be a feedback loop that would eventually destroy the universe.
- Elliot Tucker
elliot: twitterfeed does that, put in your ff atom feed and remove your twitter feed from ff
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agree....finally somebody comes out and says it as it should be said :)
- Arjun
it's both right now - if you have group of people in Twitter then it is both - otherwise the conversation is moving more into friendfeed on a greater range of topics so for those not so tied to twitter it is twitter or friendfeed
- Riaz Kanani
Disagree. Twitter has crossed the line. It is dead to me and too much of the time it is dead to everyone.
- Dave Slusher
I kind of agree. There's too much noise on FriendFeed to have simple, conversational, exchanges.
- Bill Bittner
If Twitter doesn't get its act together, it will be FriendFeed and no Twitter. I'm revisiting FriendFeed today after a nice hiatus
- Michael Koby
from Alert Thingy
This is be being real: I love Twitter, and don't get me wrong, I think FriendFeed is cool, too.. but I think Facebook will ultimately adopt the killer features of both and wipe them out.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Elliot, you can try feeding your FF entries feed into Twitterfeed.com.
- Dewald Pretorius
Agree; tell me though, does Pownce = Twitter + FriendFeed [or vice-versa] or am I just being thick? Twhirl posts to Pownce for me as well, but taking Rafe Needleman's advice and not tracking multiple communities. FF good for posts too long for Twitter
- Justin Guy Souter
from twhirl
FriendFeed > Twitter for me. I feel more value when I post here first.
- Steve Isaacs
agree, and, in between Twitter and Friendfeed , many other indispensible things are included.
- Nikos Anagnostou
Both - but grudgingly. Honestly? The only reason I go to FF is because some of my Twitterpals migrated here and won't come back. Twitter is my main gal - FF is my Friday night stand-in. If I could do away with FF I would.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Twitter is too myopic to last much longer. Our online lives are a lot more complicated than 140 characters.
- David Weiner
How much time to we all have?? There are use cases for both twitter and friend feed. Some people WILL choose one or the other. There are functional aspects that i like about both. For me it is both.
- Rodney Rumford
Its neither - it's what fits your structure and how you want to connect. If you want actual conversations and build on relationpships, IMO, Plurk is good at that. FF seems too cluttered but aggregates a lot information together. Twitter is still good for me and is a great broadcast tool, some communication, and a lot of industry heads that you can learn from.
- Sonny Gill
It's becoming less and less so. I'd much rather have one service I can do it all on and FriendFeed satisfies that much better. Twitter still has things FF doesn't though so for what FF doesn't satisfy, I will continue to use Twitter for.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I suppose I could go with the AND if FF offered a pure stream like twitter. I really don't like the threaded conversation presentation ... but maybe that's because I mostly use twirl?
- Clint
You're almost right. I get what you're getting at. But the two are different and will grow separate paths with some common features.
- phil baumann
phil, if they do grow in separate paths, that's great! I'll continue using both! However, I will not continue to use both for the same reasons. I'm removing the duplicate effort lately and consolodating what I can over to FriendFeed, leaving the remaining effort to Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
My other concern is that Twitter just doesn't have the expertise up high to make it a successful service. You will see the FF founders frequently engaged in conversations about FF on their service. I have yet to see a single Twitter founder engage in any of the critiques or compliments about their service on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
FF ideal for social discovery as long as folks hooking up enough of their services. I like the "noise" of FF.
- Stephen Francoeur
...and Plurk, and Facebook, and Pownce, and Jaiku, and more to come. Twitter for its simplicity and all the add-on apps and all the others for conversations or smaller groups with specific interests.
- Brenda Young
in anticipation for the new native apps I spent a little timetoday finding some fresh new web apps to book mark on my home dock. I added mobile IMDB, a web based Skype client, and friend feed. Any others of interest out there?
I have facebook already marked, but never thought about Plaxo and linked in. Whats popurls and flytunes?
- Adam Helweh
Movies.app, Digg, iWeathr, iLounge & Tipr.mobi if you're lazy ;)
- Roger Penguino
Im only talking web apps (don't want to jailbreak my phone). I have brightkite, Hahlo, facebook, friend feed, twitter, IMDB mobile, Skype web client, Digg, Amazon, Pocket movies, wi-fi finder, and the rest are just shortcuts to sites.
- Adam Helweh
JiWire free WiFi Finder, Revision 3 Mobile for internet TV, CNET, Evernote,iRovr
- Patrick Jordan
Did AIM launch already? Or was the release for winmo only? (currently I use my BB for chat and iPhone for surfing.. shameful, i know lol)
- Mona Nomura
Oh wow.. Revision3 has a mobile version. I should have guessed. Adding now
- Adam Helweh
Adam: FlyTunes is a cool web based streaming music service optimized for iPhone. Works well on EDGE and wifi. Popurls is a great headline aggregator for social networking sites.
- Jonathon
All the Google stuff. Meebo is good for IM if you don't open up any other Safari windows. I use FFToGo instead of FriendFeed.
- Hao Chen
I'll add the following to the list above: Google Reader, Powerset Wikipedia, Remember the Milk, Listingly, Evernote, and Instapaper.
- Michael Connick
wow people are getting really into this here and on twitter. much beard love. don't think i'll grow a full one now (save that for the winter), instead I'll try to do some cool goatee i think
- MG Siegler
I can't handle missing more than 2 days; it grows to damn fast. I do want to try growing it out sometime though.
- Benjamin Golub
I shave once a week. Have done for years. You're thinking about growing a cool goatee? That's a bit of an oxymoron isn't it? ;-)
- Tony Ruscoe
I'm hoping not to grow one before I'm 90. I don't want to have to pay for electrolysis, and razors could be dangerous then.;-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I've always been a fan of scruff. Could you get all the other males on the planet to do it also? TIA ;)
- Michelle Marie Miller
I look like I don't shave on days that I do. I actually think it looks better that way, but I don't like the bearded look and while it might look good, the girls prefer soft skin.
- RAPatton
I have a beard I maintain ~weekly with a trimmer. No razor has touched my face in ~3 years. I have no intention of going back
- Ivan Kirigin
Yeah, I try to do it every other day, but it ends up becoming about a week. The itching eventually stops, though you've got to wait it out. :)
- flammable
I just got 48 razor blades from Amazon. I can shave a yak before I'll need to buy more.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
So Harvey what's it like to shave a Yak? ever tried that before? :*)
- Susan Beebe
We are in the National Press Club where a ton of the most famous newspaper front pages are on the walls. I turned to my 14-year-old son and said "just think, in your lifetime you will see the death of newspapers. He answered: "yeah."
Yes, behaviors like reading the obits & finding out who lived in your community after it's too late to meet them will be history, along with the people who did that. Instead, we will be clicking "Like" on a message about the passing of someone, penned by a Friend of a Friend of a Friend, who happens to be the local obit writer. Different transport, same protocol.
- Wade Dorrell
News from the night before. Great idea at the time, current implementation lacks freshness.
- Sam Pullara
Disagree. Paper is a wonderful medium -- cheap, disposable, high-res. Newspapers need to be reinvented to fill in the needs not yet filled by the Internet.
- Mitch Wagner
Robert, the only reason newspapers will every die out is because the advertisement model may move away from them, making it impossible to keep printing the paper. People love newspapers. Seriously.And if you guys think that the 24x7 "real-time" on-line experience can ever match me sitting outside with a beautiful sunset, drinking my cup of coffee and skimming thought the news then I suggest you reconsider.
- Alexander van Elsas
Mitch and Alexander: you guys are smoking great dope! Nobody my son's age is going to read newspapers. Even old people are telling me they aren't reading them anymore. Including congressmen!!! But that's not the real reason. The real reason is because they are freaking expensive to distribute and will become more and more expensive over time compared to digital media. Add that to the fact that the business model is disappearing VERY QUICKLY and you can see that within 15 years most newspapers not be printed
- Robert Scoble
On the other hand, newspaper brands will certainly survive. Almost all the journalists I talk with see this trend very clearly now. Paper is just not a good way to distribute information anymore and it will get worse and worse with each year that goes by. Soon (within 20 years) you both will be dead and will be replaced by people who wouldn't think of reading stuff on paper. Seriously.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, not on dope;-) Actually you are giving the same reason for their extinction as I am. the business model! But for reading, I bet that I know more people that do read them than people that stopped reading them. And in Holland major brand newspapers are experimenting with different reading formats aimed at young people, faster news, less long articles, more pictures in them. They will adapt to the reading behavior, but the business model is what will really kill them.
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: Funny, the publisher of the Washington Post told me a few years back that a little more than half the people in DC start their morning with the Washington Post. But he admitted he's losing and that's why he's investing like crazy into online media. Personally paper won't be able to turn the corner. Kids want the immediacy (so do we, look at what's happening here) and will never accept paper news. Books might be safe for a while longer, but I can see a day where even they are gone.
- Robert Scoble
Hear hear Robert, I live in a one (print) newspaper town (Perth, Western Australia) and the one newspaper until recently really did nothing on the web, they didn't get it, recently another publisher has opened an online only news service and suddenly they are playing catch up, they will never compete with their old mentality. No one I know reads print based newspapers any more, yet currently they still hold exceptional influence? go figure that one out!
- Darren Entwistle
Anyway I agree that the print based model for information delivery of daily news will expire with those who currently buy it to read the obituary column!
- Darren Entwistle
Robert, this immediacy thing. I am not so sure about it. Everyone loves immediacy (I do too), children love it. But I also believe there is a need for balance in life. Not everything needs to be immediate. Kids will grow up and find that balance too, just like we are. Maybe not in newspapers. But I can tell you right now that if everything is immediate, the idea of immediacy will become less important. Everything that comes up must come down ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Can't believe I said that while I haven't actually finished my first cup of coffee this morning ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: sorry, it's a NEWSpaper. When it comes to news, immediacy is HUGELY important. News isn't news if it's old.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, hah, you haven't been reading newspapers lately have you ;-) There is the immediate stuff, and there is all that other stuff which makes up probably 50% or more of today's newspapers. But I do agree of course that the important stuff is best when it's fresh and immediate. But there will be som much of that, that we will find slow news more interesting. It's a balancing act. Hmm, I feel a possibility for a blog post here ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: I read them once in a while when I am in a hotel room and they leave them in front of the door (like the room I'm in now). They make me feel even stronger that their time is over soon. It's just a horribly expensive distribution channel and people are being trained against reading them.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert give it a rest bud .. the number of people who don't "get" newspapers is infisimal compared to the rest of society that does. Whether it be the small local newspaper to the national dailies. They aren't going anywhere soon.
- Steven Hodson
On several occasions the past weeks I have hesitated to cancel my newspaper subscription, almost everything is "old" news, but like Alexander said there is so much more to newspapers than news, especially the "quality" newspaper I read. I still buy it for the opinion and editorials, the in-depth series on specific issues around the world. But I do spend less time with it than 2-3 years ago.
- Marc Dierens
Sorry Scoble, -- good, deep, accurate, thorough, analytical reporting doesn't come immediately. Think pieces don't come immediately. Papers are already adopting a philosophy of breaking the news on the Web, then spinning it forward in the paper to tell you why it's important and, in particular, why it's important to MY community, MY school district, MY city council. Newspapers will be around a long time delivering analytical pieces on local news, even when breaking news is exclusively online.
- Kevin Hessel
Steven: I remember the day when a Kodak exec told me that digital photography would never happen. I also remember the day when you all weren't using PCs. I also remember the day before email. Before IM. Before the Web. Things are changing. Let's meet again in a decade and see how many newspapers survived. Some will still be around in a decade, but the trend will be very clear by then.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: and why can't that stuff all be delivered over the Web? Any rule that good, deep, thorough, analytical reporting can't be delivered online? No. In the meantime, delivering a newspaper to your home is an expensive way to deliver news (readership has been going down in every survey I've seen) and the advertising world won't spend money on newsprint anymore because it simply isn't efficient compared to online. Already in SF newspapers are laying people off in droves.
- Robert Scoble
Andy C: not to be crude or anything, but people like you are dying and are being replaced with people who don't complain about screen text sizes. I've heard all these arguments. They won't wash, sorry. And newspapers are NOT cheap to deliver. They are HORRIBLY expensive when compared to online media. You really need to visit a printing plant to see just how expensive these things are.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I would disagree....or should I say it will not atleast happen in your son's lifetime...the reason being that technology penetration needed atleast in developing countries is still not up to that mark, to be able to replace the plain vanilla newspaper. And another reason is personal: I still like to hold something in my hand.Thats why never liked e-books too except for tech readup :)
- Arjun
No rule, but your initial point was that news needs to be immediate for newspapers to survive, and the Web is more immediate, therefore newspapers won't survive. Are we abandoning that? If we are, then we've opened ourselves up to any printed form -- the death of books, the death of magazines, even the death of newspapers -- that should have come from TV and radio, which use the same broadcast model as the Web (advertiser supports station, user experiences what they perceive to be as "free"). Still here!
- Kevin Hessel
Has your son ever read a newspaper given he has been raised in the internet age?
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
Layoffs are also due to owners expecting ridiculous profit margins. Papers thrived on 20-25% margins - far more than the oil industry is being criticized for. And now paper owners are beholden to their debt-holders, so they can't even reconsider acceptance of more realistic profit margins. Solution: Lay people off and cut costs like mad. They still pull in 12-15% margins -- about the same as Exxon -- but they're being called dead. (*And* don't forget "user experience.")
- Kevin Hessel
I think I've got a question here. Is the newspaper as a physical medium dying (that is, the newsPAPER), or are we talking about the medium? If it's the first one, I'm totally with you: newspapers are dying, fast. They will eventually be replaced by the Internet and maybe e-books. Paper is expensive and non-ecological. But, if you say that journalism is due to die with newspaper, then I...
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- Kurai (ff)
from twhirl
Andy: like I said, that's expensive compared to the marginal cost of digital media. The thing you are forgetting is that anyone who wants to be part of modern society will have to have a computer or a capable cell phone anyway. Kevin: yeah, I know that companies are needing better margins to keep up with the investor expectations. Anyway, I'm off to bed. Hopefully Patrick has a long life so I will be right. If he lives another 60 years, which is about the average lifespan for a male in USA, then he'll...
- Robert Scoble
...definitely see the death of newspapers. I think most newspapers that we are now seeing will die in next decade due to the business model imploding (it's going to get a lot worse as advertisers realize they can get a much more efficient buy online and as more people come online). The costs will continue going up, too (gas costs, for instance, raises the price of getting newsprint and ink to printing plants -- paper and ink are heavy things and take a lot of energy to move around).
- Robert Scoble
There is a keen appreciation of the context in which stories display in print that cuts to a core McLuhan belief that part of the message delivered in print derives from the medium through which it arrives. If print is dead, there should be no appreciation of that significant relationship among teens, yet I work with junior high school students who tell me otherwise. I don't believe printed dailies will cease to be a significant social fixture inside the next 20 years.
- Bernie Goldbach
Bernie: well, like I said, I gave my son his lifetime to see these changes. That'd be 60 years, if he lives out his average life expectancy (which probably will go up in his lifetime). But I'm already seeing these changes happen, and, so, I personally expect that you'll see many newspapers disappear in the next decade. I doubt they'd all disappear. Heck, steam locomotives are still being used in some parts of the world even though we haven't seen those in use in decades in the US.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure I agree with your prediction - but for reasons far simpler than most of those listed above. Television did not kill radio. Cable has yet to kill network TV. Computers have yet to kill TV. DVD/VHS/etc has yet to kill the movie theater. Will many newspapers 'die'? Probably. But I doubt that the entire medium will disappear any more that I believe that the Kindle will replace an actual bound book.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Scoble, If you are in DC on Thursday, go check out conductor Leonard Slatkin's farewell concert at Kennedy Center ($20-$80). Plus thursday, they have AfterWords discussion, where you get to talk to Leonard. Guest Celloist Sol Gabetta plays Shostakovich. I highly recommend sitting in front row. I saw Sarah Chang play Brahms w/ Leonard in Jan. here is link: http://tinyurl.com/yteq49
- Pokai
Robert, decided to take one part of this, your immediacy comment, and wrote about it. My 2cts? It's gonna be way less important once it is there for all of us. http://tinyurl.com/59rzyx
- Alexander van Elsas
I almost joined the National Press Club, but then I thought better of it.
- Josette Torres
I look to Japan, which has a fantastic internet infrastructure and great tech uptake rates but still has a growing newspaper industry. Sadly alot of 'new media' news resources sacrifice fact checking and impartiality for speed. Its very hard to build up trust with your audience and thats the key for building a loyal readership.
- Steven Cains
I've learned never to use my children as a focus group for an entire generation -- especially when it comes to using technology that is expensive and requires a certain level of education, sophistication and affluence. I've also learned that new media rarely "kills" old media -- it "changes" the role of old media, but does so slowly and over many generations. I have no doubt the "newspaper" as we know it will be extinct one day. However, I also know the technology replacing it will follow it into extinction
- Rex Hammock
My dad stopped buying the NY Post after the price recently doubled. He said that the Post is a rag of a newspaper and that most of the news is online in half the time. He also noted that the newspaper vendor he went to lost most of his business.
- Michael Perlman
Apple IS Steve Jobs. He has no one in place to take over for him. With all respect to the man (because he is a genius) he's a total megalomaniac and I think he secretly wants Apple to fail after he's gone to prove he's the only one that could do what he did, twice.
- Tac Anderson
My AAPL shares start shaking when this conversation starts. I'm really hoping that he's grooming someone at Pixar to take over for him. :D
- Internet's Tad
Steve is irreplacable. This is one of the biggest problems of Apple. When someone at an organization becomes bigger than the organization; it is near impossible to change anything (forced or by chance) and not affect the organization. It is one of the most difficult professional decisions but one needs to step back and groom a replacement and make sure that there is enough exposure before it really happens. For now I hope that Steve Jobs, a Man I Highly respect is well... and MY health worries me. :P
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
Let's hope that he merely had a bug at the WWDC.
- Michael Wiley
stock traders are clearly worried about Jobs' health, and they should be..even more so since Jobs//Apple keeps everything hushed up-you can bet any serious medical news will be kept out of the public eye for as long as possible (SEC rules or not).
- mark ivey
Not sure if this is good or bad ... at least 100
- Charlie Anzman
One Billllllioooonnnnnn FF refershes waaaaa haaaa haaaaa.....
- Thomas Hawk
It might be better to count in the number of left-click buttons I have destroyed since finding FriendFeed
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I use tab mix plus's auto refresh feature to refresh it 1-2 mins
- BCK
I normally rely on the auto-update aspect of FF. Once in a while I will refresh it, but that's usually more on a whim, or because something shows up in Twitter that isn't on my list yet.
- Joel Gray
I have not kept any stats, but it's excessively often.
- Mike Fruchter
I've done a few bikram yoga classes. It's yoga done in a room heated to 105 degrees. I've never been so exhausted. Maybe I'll go tomorrow night...
- Tom Wentworth
I didn't think I would be soo sore the next day but I definitley was!!
- Mrsth
Does your yoga class teach religious beliefs along side the physical yoga?
- Todd Jordan
No Todd Jordan, no religious talks. I'd walk out if that's the case
- Jeremiah Owyang
Good to hear. I know lots of the yoga instructors push it beyond the physical. One reason i've been paranoid about starting.
- Todd Jordan
Todd Jordan, You're the customer, and you're in charge, don't worry bout it bud!
- Jeremiah Owyang
Thanks for the reminder Jeremiah. Believe it or not, I forget some times. Like today at my 1st physical therapy. I was all yes'm and such.
- Todd Jordan
I'm a trained yoga teacher and I have praciced for ten years. It ha been very good for my back and also for my mental state, balance, and upper body strength.
- Francine Hardaway
I just tweeted about Pilates vs Yoga. I'm thinking of delving into one or the other soon.
- James
from Alert Thingy
did you go back? i've been practising for just over a year. amazing stuff!
- Gaurav Sikka
Wow that's an old friendfeed post. No, haven't gone back.
- Jeremiah Owyang
i do basic yoga at the gym at least once a week. it's a blessing to be able to do this as it's a great relief for both physical and mental stress. this is a technology that really benefits so many and has and will for a long time.
- sean808080
I signed up for a 30 lessons Hot Yoga package recently. It's difficult stuff, but it also gives me a good sweat.
- Winston Teo
Yes, I have the Wii Fit and I have done Yoga on that machine. It's a lot more difficult than I imagined. Having said that I did a Yoga class whilst on vacation in Negril, Jamaica, and that was even more difficult. But it's good fun, and also good for you. But as with any activity, you have to keep doing it!
- Marc Dierens
I miss DS9 but I doubt it would hold up very well to a re-watching
- Stefan Hayden
I loved DS9. However, BSG is so updated and amazing. It's hard to compare them.
- Dawn M. Armfield
It's not easy comparing the two, but you can definitely see that Ron D. Moore is an excellent writer. BSG was the first sci-fi show in a long time that kept me on the edge of my seat, and wanting to see more.
- Marc Dierens
Office documentation. For example, network, support, policies and procs, etc. Stuff that many people need to use, keep current and be aware of.
- Chris Kasten
Documentation of any kind, particularly documentation that is likely to be rapidly changing, or documentation that can benefit from contributions from multiple authors.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Some of my favorite wiki use cases: 1) ad hoc collaboration, 2) data integration/dashboard (combining wdgets and feeds together), 3) capturing knowledge and lessons learned for later (re)use, 4) How-Tos and Quickstarts
- Dion Hinchcliffe
from twhirl
Documentation that needs constant updating and also by numerous people with edit history. Lotus uses that now for most previous Redbooks they did, all went wiki's
- Chris Miller
from twhirl
a wiki definitely for project documentation. Also for team admin: time-off schedules, where to find expense forms, etc.
- Jeff Smith
Departmental doc, replacing a file server full of Word docs that no one could find. People stall out on wiki markup, though. The other day someone sent around a new glossary for our business in a multitab spreadsheet, and I almost cried.
- Skott Klebe
Team collaboration, but also knowledge communication. Wikis allow people to share information much more easily then a typical web site.
- Marc Dierens
Yeah, just keeping all the files in one place, with more robust version control, etc. Skott is right about the wiki markup, though. Most people don't bother to learn it/don't use it properly.
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
team collaboration, esp when integrated with ticket system
- Bill Seitz
well, my post on RWW didn't end up incorporating project documentation! I gotta go back and make sure that's in there for goodness sake! Thanks for all the input everybody
- Marshall Kirkpatrick