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A theory on the reply change --> the celebs were getting spammed mercilessly.
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Eh? The setting was opt-in.
- Daniel Sims
It makes me feel that Twitter prefer to rely on celebs followers rather than the others? (bloggers, businesses, marketers..)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
oh totally - i'd almost guarantee that the celebs drove this change - and it was a year+ in the making [edit: not so sure about this now, but i'll let it stand as i wrote it earlier today]
- Chris Heath
I thought the change only made it so you dont see other people you follow's replies to people you dont follow where it starts with @user. You will still see @replies to you from people you dont follow show up in your mentions. So if celebs only follow 20 people, but get 200 replies to a tweet, they still show up in the replies tab for them. Just culls some of the noise from the people...
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- Simon Wicks
Simon: think of it this way... a celeb only wants to see the @ replies to them, not the @ replies that their followers are sending out to other celebs or other lay-users - they've got enough coming thru their twitter pipe that all those extra at-replies make their stream very noisy - and instead of figuring out how to get a better signal/noise they ask twitter to do it for them - makes total sense to me and from twitter's past actions this type of action would not be out of place
- Chris Heath
But its their fault for following everybody back, and enabling see all @replies then. Same with anyone else.
- Simon Wicks
Look, guys, this behavior that we see imposed on us today used to be default. In order to change it to see all replies, you had to dive into Settings. So no, this theory doesn't make any sense to me.
- Vlad Bobleanta
for a 'celeb' who only follows a few people this is no big deal, but for one, they don't allow the auto follow back anymore, do they? and the feature that was turned off wasn't the default either, so most 'celebs' probably didn't have that feature to begin with... maybe it wasn't the celebs that 'did' this --- maybe it's an infrastructure play and they'll have less fail whales if they don't have to parse that setting
- Chris Heath
dave - that's what i said last night - the celebs brought this on im sure - they have a special hotline to twitter
- Allen Stern
But if they didn't go into settings and TURN ON see all @replies, they'd never experience that. Vlad's right. And if they did, and didn't like getting spammed, all they gotta do is go TURN IT OFF. Doesn't make sense.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yeah Jandy, that's what i was thinking... but the celebs can't control what we all have for our settings, so if you @reply Oprah, and i'm following you i can see that @reply to Oprah, but only if i'm also following Oprah... in that regard, it's a way to get more people to follow 'celebs'. Under the old way (if i had my settings set right, and i did) I could see your 'conversation' with...
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- Chris Heath
The way that this is reported to have been implemented it doesn't change the spamability factor. The way I understood this was that only tweets beginning in an "@" would not be seen. Other mentions would be seen. I could be mistaken. It also seems as thought this was not affecting API clients. Suggestion from one developer say this will not affect their app.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Allen, I bet they don't need to wait few month to get some twitter help support..
- Orli Yakuel
If it doesn't affect clients (and won't ever), then I guess I'm a little bit back to...why do it at all? Does anyone NOT use a client?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
A commenter on Sheamus' post http://twittercism.com/all-rep... suggested what I think is the perfect solution. Enable us to choose on a user by user basis if we want to see "all @replies", "replies only from those I'm following", or "no replies".
- Sharon McPherson
Jandy: Yes, there are some who don't use a client, because of work, school, OS restrictions.
- Sharon McPherson
there are web based clients to use - one need not use the twitter.com website to connect via http
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sharon, thats how it has always been. Which is why I'm confused by the whole thing! There has ALWAYS been (until now) the option to choose if we want to see "all @replies", "replies only from those I'm following", or "no replies". The big deal now is that we are no longer given the option to see all @ replies.
- Charlotte M
FYI: FriendFeed is an HTTP twitter client
- Chris Heath
Jandy: It does affect clients. Replies to strangers are also gone from the same friends_timeline that clients use. Clients can get around it by separately retrieving the user_timeline of each user that you follow and displaying them with the regular timeline, but this would be expensive in terms of API calls. FriendFeed doesn't use friends_timeline, you actually follow a separate FriendFeed which simply has Twitter updates posted to it, so FF is not affected.
- Guan Yang
Charley: Now you can't even choose "no replies".
- Guan Yang
" ... other celebs or other lay-users." Oh, there's now a Twitter laity? Social media has more layers than Outback's Bloomin' Onion.
- Chris Baskind
Charley: I'm aware of how the replies function has worked, what the commenter was suggesting is that Twitter give us the option to choose on a user by user basis how we want the replies settings to work for that user. For instance, if I'm following you on Twitter I could set the option to be "all @replies". If I'm following someone else who is particularly chatty, I could choose the...
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- Sharon McPherson
Sharon - aah right apologies, my mistake there :) That would be a great feature actually, much better than the original options. Would solve my problem now of having too many tweets in my timeline from particular people protesting the change by not putting the @ first.
- Charlotte M
Celebs don't follow anyone, so how could this be an issue?
- Mike Lizun
MIke: My humble opinion, I don't think it was so much the celebs that complained, but the groupies that followed them clogging up timelines tweeting to Oprah, Kutcher, and such, when there was a snowball's chance in hell they would get a response. I think most of the complaining came from Twitter users themselves who were getting tired of it.
- Sharon McPherson
I second Sharon's comment.
- Damon Cortesi
Could this be partly be because of Troy's Script, which I understand bypasses the default setting in Twitter to show all replies?
- Molly
Thank you Damon. But that still doesn't explain why Twitter didn't just tell the complainers they had 2 options, change their replies settings to "replies only from those I'm following", or, unfollow.
- Sharon McPherson
There's a simple solution to that too, Molly. Uncheck that option from the script's features or remove the script.
- Sharon McPherson
Guan, huh. Looks like you're right. I just checked Seesmic Desktop, and looks like I don't seen any replies to people I'm not following. I swear I looked at Twitterfox this morning and did, though. Did they just update the API within the last few hours?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
In relationship to the celeb perspective, this thread added to my perspective http://friendfeed.com/kevinro...
- Holly Rae, FFer
One more comment and then I'll shut up. Like Dave said in his article here, http://www.scripting.com/stories... I too saw a message on the Twitter home page advising of a change in the way replies works, but once the page had loaded completely, it was gone. I think they knew the kind of uproar this would cause and for some reason tried to slide it in as inconspicuously as they could.
- Sharon McPherson
(from another thread) I think, given @biz's bs this morning about the engineering team reminding him this is a technical necessity, that twitter is grasping at straws trying to cut interprocess messaging traffic down in order to stay afloat. While I'm not an expert in the flow that they're using at twitter, I can suggest that in networking design, it's much less taxing to drop traffic...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Update from Twitter - Replies will be fixed http://blog.twitter.com/2009...
- Sharon McPherson
Let this be a lesson: Next time Twitter screws up, everyone just needs to choke @ev and @biz with @bombs and they'll be forced to listen. Maybe they'll even learn to like, and USE twitter.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, and get #twitterfail to trend along with whatever the fail-specific tag is. ;)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
+2 Jandy :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sharon: I LOVED Troy's script. Apparently the new changes disabled it. I could only see my own updates when I was on Twitter a few minutes ago so came here. :-D
- Molly
Molly: I hadn't received a Twitter update in over an hour, they're just now starting to trickle in.
- Sharon McPherson
I agree w/(someone) who said we need threaded comments here in FF. Sharon: It's late now so Twitter's fixing itself will have to wait for me to get back to it. :-P
- Molly
This theory is wrong. Also nobody complained. It's just Twitter being dumb.
- Rutger Blom
Rutger: got the inside scoop? Are you sure nobody complained? (the twitter being dumb part is right on though)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@cognoscento: they said it was a little-known, little-used feature, but it turns out to be an engineering issue - how is that being honest?
Marina Martin liked this
FTR I don't really care about the new Twitter change - the old feature was nice, but what gets me is the way Twitter is handling all this.
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Since when does ' I have a DSLR ' mean ' I am a photographer ' ?
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"This library is now under the authority of the dragon core". Some day I hope I can walk into a library and say that. #legendoftheseeker
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But that would make you a Taharan in service of Darken Rahl!
- Adam Turetzky
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Stop...my head is going to explode.
- Mark Krynsky
who's on first?
- Keith - @tsudo
jinkies
- Bwana ☠
Funny thing is this made total sense to me when I said it. Now I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
- Jesse Stay
Care to try it out? You can put @jdspyers in the middle of a message with an @someone you follow at the beginning and I'll let you know if I see it.
- John Spyers
I think the answer is yes.
- Brett Kelly
Let's talk about springing ahead and falling back and whether we gain or lose an hour of sleep. That one always throws folks, too. ;-)
- Kathy Fitch
I just tweeted to @TypeAs (which you are not following) but included @Jesse in the message. Did you see it?
- Marina Martin
Marina, thanks - yes, I got it on Twitter, so it looks like that would work. Funny how we're having to figure this out on our own.
- Jesse Stay
Very happy to see Damon (@dacort) posting from FriendFeed, though :)
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I've been doing so occasionally. I just need to make the full buy-in. Or ... make friendfeedstats. ;)
- Damon Cortesi
If you're looking for a "rails intern" to help out, I may be able to carve out 15-20 minutes per week. Just for you, though ;)
- Brett Kelly
Just reorganized my Moleskine. I'm a nerd, but it works for me, I guess.
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@ElementsOfJazz hehe lol just proud of myself, it has been awhile since I completed everything on my to do list. :-)
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"u think the baby is drinkin the blood?? - http://tofuttibreak.tumblr.com/post...
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Ahhh.. Are we playing "Guess the US Southeastern State?"
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
HOW IS PEROID FROMMED?
- Internet's Tad
Funny how the ones who didn't listen in school can easily be identified. If this were real, I'd say he didn't believe in evolution, either, but no one could be this clueless, not if he's old enough to get someone preggers.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Oh dear - Of course he could be that clueless! I'm guessing he's probably 15 or 16 and has no clue.
- Internet's Tad
Well, I figured even a 12 yr-old would have been to sex education class and listened avidly.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I guess California.
- Dave Roth
its a vampire baby
- Alfredo
LMAO @ Alfredo :D
- vijay
the qualifications to be a parent are surprisingly low
- You.
wow, that's the funniest thing I have read in ages
- William Harryman
BUT DON'T LET THEM GAYS GET MARRIED. (Cause, you know...think about the children.)
- Derrick
It's interesting at how people have drawn from this thing that the poster doesn't believe in evolution, is against gay marriage, and is automatically from the South. I guess stereotypes ARE real! Did you guys not think that maybe he was a black kid from LA because he didn't repeatedly use the word 'yo'?
- Akiva Moskovitz
If knowing biology were a prerequisite for having offspring, the human population would be a fraction of what it is now. Heck, we may even be extinct.
- Morton Fox
Of course Mark, obviously an uninformed teen father HAS to be from the south. Those NEVER happen anywhere else in the US...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
(sigh)...Maybe the dingo will eat this baby!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Is this a Twilight post?
- Jason
LOL @Mark's comment, my guess is L.A. aka Lower Alabama. sry Tina.
- Eric Logan
whahaha LOL
- Jorg Jansen
I always wonder if someone is having us all in when these absolutely stupid posts get repeated -- maybe the stupid ones are the ones that repost this stuff and discuss it.
- Brian Sullivan
By the time my friends and I got to 8th grade sex ed, we thought we knew everything so when question time came around, we made up some crazy ass shit. We thought we were being sooo funny. Needless to say, our questions were never addressed.
- ♥patricia♥
W T F?!
- JA Castillo
Wow.
- Rochelle
do vampire babies drink the blood of their own mom?
- sofarsoShawn
I can't lie. This isn't a joke. I was actually trying to pose this question to you Friendfeeders. Any advice?
- Brad Williamson
@shawn: Don't be silly: Vampires don't have kids. They don't even have sex. They just stalk each other and engage in extended erotic posing and biting scenes while fangirls squee over them and write bad fiction. :)
- Karl Knechtel
I definitely think the baby is drinking the blood.
- dkb
i love tumblr.
- edythe
OMG..talk about dense!
- Rob Sellen :o)
THE BABY IS DRINKING THE BLOOD?! HAHAHAHAHA! Wtf
- Mo Kargas
Love that these kids are procreating! Go future!
- Steve Isaacs
You know what grossed me out when I first learned about it was the fact that a baby poops and pees into the amniotic fluid and then breathes and drinks all that stuff in again.
- Victor Ganata
When I close my eyes I can't see anything! Wow.
- Bryan R. Adams
i love stupid people.
- Brad Williamson
You must have a lot of love in you.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That was my point, Jason, although Akiva attacked me for being wry.
- Derrick
No that was like 90% percent english I don't think that dude was yung at all, lol ;-)
- Anthony Farrior
I didn't attack you, Derrick. That was a love tap.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm guessing this dates back from about October of last year, his name is Levi, and the girlfriend is Bristol Palin.
- jcunwired
Akiva said tap. heheh.
- Derrick
Akiva, I was half-joking, but only half, because I had sex ed. My mother taught sex ed. I do associate lack of sex education with Bible-Belt "not in OUR schools" mentalities, and how often do they go with anti-evolution sentiment? This poster showed a level of cluelessness to me that makes me guess he could have been deliberately left in the dark; I knew young fathers, but they all knew what was up when the flow stopped. Again, I was still half-joking.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Uh... what?
- Akiva Moskovitz
This is like Love Line, but on the interwebs.
- anna sauce
This is like loveline with the stupid unfiltered....
- mjc
Since I don't know where I should begin, I guess it must end?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Why I Must Transition — Why I Am the Way I Am - http://www.dominickevans.com/2009...
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Twitter is like a pager...friendfeed is like a smart cell phone (particularly with the new beta features). Some people just want a pager, but they'll eventually have to get a cell phone anyhow, because that's the way the world works.
Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF, Thomas Ho, Valley and 66 other people liked this
very true....
- Rob Sellen :o)
I read "Twitter is like a prager". And thought "Twitter doesn't call an ambulance when someone exhibiting symptoms of a brain bleed walks in my apartment"
- Matthew DeVries
+1 Matthew
- Jimminy
I think you nailed it Alex, though, what is the cell phone? Not everyone needs the smart cell phone...just a basic one usually will do.
- Justin Korn
Yeah as long as the basic one comes with multimedia sharing and a camera.
- Alex Scoble
That explains it. I hate my pager.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Wait, what's a pager? ;)
- Meryn Stol
FriendFeed can be used as a lightweight Facebook, if people choose, and I think that there is a market for a lightweight Facebook. FriendFeed can be used in more ways than Twitter, and, some of the ways to use FriendFeed are obviously familiar to the Facebook crowd. Thus, those discontent with Facebook can find refuge in FriendFeed, along with all sorts of other people using FriendFeed for different reasons.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
And they don't have to put up with a deluge for stupid app requests and people tagging pics with their name even though the pic isn't of them, etc. People complain about the noise of friendfeed, but compared to Facebook, friendfeed is very high signal.
- Alex Scoble
I guess back in the day, only doctors and drug dealers used Twitter.
- Rodfather
In 1999, when I first started the tech support job I have now, I tried to convince them not to give me a pager. They didn't even believe that I didn't know how to use one, until I started searching online for a manual. All I could think of is if someone saw me walking around in public with that thing, it would be assumed I had it for nefarious reasons.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Exactly, Alex. I think that there is a significant Facebook population that is discontent with the website, and they may sign up for FriendFeed. However, the discontent Facebook user isn't the only demographic that could potentially switch to FriendFeed in droves. In my above comment, I mentioned that FriendFeed can be used in more ways than Twitter, thus it appeals to a wider variety of people compared to Twitter. Regardless, though, Twitter has one thing going for it; some pretty awesome simplicity.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I'd say FF is more like a dumb cell phone, but it's a good step in the right direction.
- Dawn
I agree with the assessment that FF is like a smart phone.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Yeah, but if they took the numbers off the buttons so you could focus on the dialing, people wouldn't be happy either.
- Mr. Gunn
I really like that analogy Alex.
- Keith - @tsudo
Great analogy!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Alex, you're so right. But imagine the majority of people don't even know about cell phones. That's the situation with FF. They need to do heavy advertisings in the mainstream market.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Some stupid flying whale keeps paging me.
- Josh Haley
Twitter is like CNN, RSS is like PBS...
- Claudio Calligaris
twitter is like...breaking... friendfeed is like....growing. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
And the only people who use pagers are crack dealers booya!
- sofarsoShawn
I never really jived with / understood Twitter and now that it's sucking increasing amounts of wind I doubt I'll ever give it much time.
- Anthony Citrano
i used the quote in my post today : http://www.techsoomer.com/friendf...
- Kevin Pruett
Well put blog post, kevin.
- Micah Wittman
Nice post, Kevin.
- Alex Scoble
Oh man, I'm good - the baby is saying, "Dadadadadada" all day long now. :-)
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So I'm in bed sick with flu. Not good considering I have lots of work to do.Getting a Type-A personality to rest is impossible, I am told
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"All I want to know is where I'm going to die so I'll never go there." - Charles Munger. Love this quote.
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TC50: Payola or a dodgy site from Ashton Kutcher, I know which I’d pick - http://www.inquisitr.com/2984...
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are you seriously saying that this site was at the conference?
- McFrugal
yes.
- Duncan Riley
I don't want to be overly harsh, but I just can't see how this site qualifies. I also noted in the post: I have no issue with it being picked from the marketing/ exposure point, however when you set up a conference as being the best of the best, letting one slide doesn't help your credibility
- Duncan Riley
Wait. You're sure that wasn't a case of the conference being Punk'd? I'm skeptical.
- Siona van Dijk
Siona +1
- Duncan Riley
it had no place. It's a video show. There are hundreds better. And this should be on YouTube or Blip.
- Andru Edwards
Sorry Duncan, but to basically everyone excpet for you Ashton is an A lister, I live in L.A. and call tell you for sure he is an A-Lister
- Andrew Fielding
Andrew, A list, C list...what ever, the site didn't deserve to be there on merit alone
- Duncan Riley
I saw BlahGirls first. I was non-plussed but assumed it was picked for publicity purposes. Then I saw Other Inbox, and about died. An entire company based around a catch-all email address, which anyone can do by checking a single box on their email settings page!?!? And then you get 1,000 inboxes instead of one? I fear what the companies *not* chosen were like, if this is the cream of the crop.
- Marina Martin
Before launching a new product/service, I wish people would take a moment to ask themselves, "Is the best we could do? Is this the best use of our time, resources, and talent?"
- Marina Martin
Twitter will kick themselves for missing this (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Imagine if the world of Instant Messaging had been under one roof, if one vendor had invented it, and had 100 percent market share. Further, what if that vendor had the foresight that there would be other vendors and that compatibility between their services would make a huge market, and that incompatibility would keep the market fragmented and relatively small. What would that vendor have done?
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
Dave - I don't quite understand your argument for how Twitter could have been the NSOL of microblogging. Are you saying that Twitter should have been the site that binds every other micro-blogging service together?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I don't understand your question, sorry. All I get from it is your first phrase that you don't understand me. So neither of us understand each other. Oh well. Maybe someone else can bridge the void..
- Dave Winer
Love it Dave. We're having a meta conversation about microblogging. Maybe I'll go craft an old fashioned blog post of my own to try and elaborate/clarify :)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It's kind of like this Apple commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Dave Winer
Exactly!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another example, I read somewhere on FF the other day that people took a feed from a music room here and added it to iTunes and it knew what to do with it! I feel really proud of that cause it was made possible by some early foundation work I did with RSS, a long time ago, paying off now for users. Exactly the kind of foresight I would like to see Twitter do now.
- Dave Winer
Now that I get. Thanks Dave.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Dave, yes you spot on (once again !). However, twitter doing it is basically like asking like asking water to turn to honey. Only a miracle can make it happen. The underlying architecture of Twitter, really can't support a framework of collaborative sharing of info with other 3rd party vendors. FB did a great job with creating the app that was actually a platform. FF seems to be like this, twitter is ouf of the window.
- Peter Dawson
Do you think the problem lies in the fact that they are a Valley startup that needs to look like something Google or Yahoo would buy and put ads on.
- Harold Gilchrist
from twhirl
Harold, I don't think there's a "problem" -- they're overworked and head-down and faced with an enormous amount of opportunity. It must be hard to sort through it all, and to them, a missive like this from me probably sounds pretty shrill. "Oh there he goes again." I don't blame them for this, but I would be remiss if I didn't put my stake in the ground so we can play Monday Morning Quarterback in 2010 or so. (Murphy-willing, knock wood!)
- Dave Winer
Network Solutions are the worst company ever, i don't know why you related Twitter to them.
- Nicholas James
I suspect that the problems from this past weekend are only going to exacerbate the problem. http://tinyurl.com/5pkpjs Not only have they missed they opportunity, but poor communication and support are seriously eroding the customer base. That the victims of this weekend's situation included several strong Twitter evangelists has unfortunate potential. Even tho the folks involved seem to mostly still carry a fondness for Twitter, their followers witnessed the problems and were involved in the solution.
- Patricia F. Anderson
"Imagine if the world of Instant Messaging had been under one roof, if one vendor had invented it, and had 100 percent market share." Wasn't that *mostly* true of AOL, though? Didn't AOL consolidate their position by buying up ICQ? Didn't they drag their feet for years and years on efforts to make their IM play well with others? By illustrating your point with IM, perhaps you have...
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- Karim
Likewise, Network Solutions is an example of *abuse* of a dominant position: in 1995 they charged $100 to register a domain name for 2 years, which led to an antitrust lawsuit. They've also been guilty of domain name censorship, domain name slamming, subdomain hijacking, domain name frontrunning, selling WHOIS information, etc. ad nauseam.
- Karim
I, for one, am glad their business model didn't become IP of a namespace
- Ross Mayfield
I'm really surprised that this weekend's problems of account closings haven't caused more of a fuss. It seems to me that it would be such a big deal, it would be the final straw that would get most of the major twitter advocates to finally pay attention to the whole issue of federation of microblogging. Also: this is the umptyzillionth thing that's made the thought go thru my mind that they must be *trying* to fail!
- Tegan Dowling
@Karim: While AIM is definitely the dominant IM standard here in the US, it doesn't even come close to being so abroad. People I know in India and Australia, for example, don't even know what "AIM" is. Yahoo and MSN Messengers are both the dominant IM networks there. I think that Dave's example very much reflects why Twitter would have done better in the long-term with an open model.
- Mohit
It would be great to see FriendFeed run their own laconica service (identi.ca).
- Dan Cameron
Isn't Identi.ca exactly what you're looking for? FriendFeed doesn't support multiple instances of FriendFeed, but I'm already party of multiple Laconica (the source of Identi.ca) networks via one seamless interface. There are some kinks, sure, but I'm bowled over by how much they've gotten done in a month.
- Marina Martin
Marina, I am an identi.ca user. How do I follow a user on another laconi.ca server? How do they follow me? Please post a pointer to the docs. This is very important.
- Dave Winer
Dave, when you are on the profile page of a user on another laconica server (such as mine: http://waka.me/wil) just click on the Subscribe button. It will then ask you for your profile URL (yours would presumably be http://identi.ca/dave) then submit the form. Your browser will do an OAuth redirect dance, after which you should be subscribed to me.
- Wil
from MojiPage
Mohit, the market is badly fragmented *now.* QQ is huge in China. Yahoo! and MSN started beta testing interop only in 2006. Google whipped out their checkbook and paid AOL a billion dollars for interop, and even that is lame -- AIM users can't see GTalk users from AIM. My point was that AOL *used to be* the dominant IM, just as Network Solutions *used to be* the largest domain name...
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- Karim
(continued) be different. Maybe "We learn from history that we do not learn from history." -- G.W.F. Hegel
- Karim
Hacking the Technical Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I was at this Ignite. VJ's an awesome guy and watching that live was really intense.
- Marina Martin
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