I agree. It is probably the most useful blog search I've found except that it is much slower to get new content than Google's. - David Recordon
You know it's the same search as Bloglines search. You can save these searches as subscriptions in Bloglines. (I work there) - Bjorn Tipling
really? I have just tried Seesmic in it and it brings me posts which are 9 months old, I must be searching the wrong way. You made me come back to Ask, first time in like 6 or 7 years... Unsure I will go back again though. - Loic Le Meur
Loic, there are three ways to search, "recent" wasn't what you chose apparently. I use Ask.com blogsearch all the time and it's worth getting to know, imho - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Thanks for sharing. Haven't been there in SOOOO long. Worth a peek - Charlie Anzman
Just wondering where all the people who have a problem with this would draw the line. When is it OK to express negative things about dead people? Is it based on time passed, level of nastiness of the person, whether they have living relatives who might love them? This is a totally serious question, I am not being snarky. - Elisa Camahort Page
There is no respect for the dead for me. There is respect for the life they led, how they both lived and died, and for those they leave behind. That guides any comments or expression from me on the dead. Nothing else. - Michael W. May
@Elisa I think there are tasteful and tactful ways to make political statements or give personal opinions on someone, even if that person is dead. I don't really have a problem with saying you didn't get along with the person, I just think it can be done with a little savoir-faire. - Shey
On the other hand, someone dying doesn't erase the bad things they did in life. Scumbag us a bit harsh though, Marshall. - Gez
@Shey But surely there's a line. Not to go all Godwin's Law, but are you saying every person deserves tact and savoir-faire, no matter what they did? "Didn't get along with" would not adequately describe the feeling people would rightfully have about various figures in history. I just am wondering if you really think every person or situation deserves such tasteful, polite treatment. - Elisa Camahort Page
Remember the old adage: Never kick a man when he's down... he might get up. Well, it don't apply to the dead :) - Ian Betteridge
Im from the uk. Just done a bit more research on this guy. Seems scumbag wasn't too harsh after all. If I wasn't in polite company I may use worse language. Worth noting that his kids will probably have there own different memory of him. - Gez
@Elisa I think that timing is more the issue. I agree with what you are saying about being nice about Adolph Hitler for example. I think calling him scum bag the day he dies is more the issue with me. His family no doubt loves him and for their sake, calling him harsh names at THIS TIME may be inappropriate. Maybe I am wrong but that is how I feel about it. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
Helms was a bully, an unreconstructed racist, a homophobe, a demagogue, and one of the most execrable human beings to ever carry the title "United States Senator." - Chris Baskind
Does it make me a bad person if I "liked" this one. - Larry Kless via twhirl
@Paul L. McCord Jr: I agree that people are shocked by the timing, but I think the more they learned the more they might not care. - Elisa Camahort Page
The term homophobic is often misused. It implies a fear of homosexuality. There is a big difference in fearing it, compared to being disgusted by it. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
You're correct. I redact my description of "homophobe" to "bigot." - Chris Baskind
@PaulLmccord. No real difference, if you feel either fear or disgust you are a bigot. - Gez
Bigot was not his original term. The original term was homophobe. If bigot is the term he would have used, then you may be able to make that argument. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
He even called himself a bigot. No biggie to see you guys calling him one. At least he was willing to stand up for what HE believed in... What do each of us believe in?? Are we willing to look stupid for it? Be berated for it? Even though I disagree with almost everything Jesse Helms believed, I agree with his chutzpah. He was willing to uphold his beliefs even though it went against the grain. Just sayin'. - Lisa L. Seifert
@Elisa its a fuzzy line to be sure but I think we can all agree that Jesse Helms cannot be equated to Hitler regardless of how much one may disagree with his policies. One of my favorite paragraphs of Carnegie's "how to win friends...": "Martin Luther King was asked how, as a pacifist, hecould be an admirer of Air Force General Daniel "Chappie”James, then the nation’s highest-ranking black officer.Dr. King replied, "I judge people by their ownprinciples - not by my own.” - Marco
Homophobia refers to irrational hatred or fear of homosexuality. Some are arguing it should be listed as a distinct disorder. http://www.washingtonpost.com/... - Sprague D
the man supported Pinochet - that alone makes him a scumbag in my mind - dead or alive. - Frederic
he is dead. may he rest in peace. let's not piss on his grave - ron k jeffries
it's ironic how people are getting offended at other people who take offense to a man with such an insidious and loathsome history. you know what? good riddance. - Cee Bee
@Sprague D Sounds pretty typical that the main stream media would try to nullify the views of those they disagree with by labling them with a disorder. They search far and wide for a story that promotes this view. I read the article in the link you posted. The title is "Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness". Who determines what is extreme? I reject this out of hand as an attempt to nullify other points of view. A civilized society can have different points of view without a disorde - Paul L. McCord Jr.
"Helms was a well known backer of the KKK and other white supremacists; he once referred to the University of North Carolina (UNC) as the "University of Negroes and Communists." we still elect people like this? fuck this guy, good riddance. - sean percival
You reap what you sow. Live like Helms and your legacy will include things like 'scum bag'. Do we stop talking about how bad Saddam Hussein was? "Hey, he's dead now, let's not kick the cruel dictator now that he's gone." Yes, it's an extreme example, but seriously folks, why not call a spade a spade. (Helms might even like that term.) - AJ Kohn
This really makes me think that I could have a future in consulting if I so desired. - Vince DeGeorge
agree with the others, this does not shock me whatsoever; I could make a couple of guesses of who your customer is but won't. - Lou Paglia
ok, I will not be surprised in the future then! I knew the market for consulting was wide open, but god damn. this is just the most extreme example I've seen yet of what everybody else here apparently already knows - even the most successful cases of web 2.0 are wide open as examples for huge numbers of people. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
I thought it was like an analysis of what those companies are doing well that would be news to those folks - not the fact that they existed! Oh, and Louis - they had heard of ReadWriteWeb, but they had never heard of TechCrunch ;) - Marshall Kirkpatrick
it also means that a lot of our "analysis" is rooted in air ... life is elsewhere - gregory lent
It has been interesting to listen to the evolution of Steve's comments around FriendFeed on the Gillmor Gang. Love the show BTW... - Jordan
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." -- Emerson - Ken Sheppardson
For those confused about the rules, hating MS = "authentic," liking MS = "shrill" - Karim
Seems understandable that softies who like it at MSFT are cranky about all the cred that Google gets as a beautiful employer - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl
Re: Steve Gillmor, linking to FF - on the 06.30 NewsGang Live podcast he talks quite a bit about FF, including some interesting discussion about the challenges of carrying on a distributed conversation between Twitter and FF. I don't think he hates it as much as people think. A lot of that was just pushing people's buttons. - Mike Doeff
Slacker.com is OK from the web but the small software app rocks. - Brett Nordquist
In love w/@pandora. Still need to try last.fm. - James via Alert Thingy
bt.etree.org is by far the best, the live music archive at archive.org is great, last.fm, pandora when I can be bothered to setup a proxy (Canadian) - Ross McKillop
Thanks all !! After checking UI / Spread on Music and quality, I scrobbled on Last.fm. BTW I am more of a CD /Bose Systems type of person, so online stuff is lik 'new' 2 me :)- - Peter Dawson
“email survey: does a search for hookers or strippers bring up more results in your inbox? i'm at 5 and 13, respectively but for the record i do have political concerns about the sex industry. just sayin'”
I don't know. I always search for "hookers" or "leather doughnuts." Spam comes from so many directions, I feel like I'm eating in Hawaii again. - Simon Goetz
get yourself a working spam filter. ;) - Nicole Simon
um, i'm not talking about spam, i'm talking about legit emails in my gmail inbox. oh nevermind! - Marshall Kirkpatrick via fftogo
Marshall - There's always the delete button :) - Charlie Anzman
Photos are the biggest thing. Facebook is to a large extent a photo sharing site, but their TOS prohibit you from doing anything interesting with the photos -- they're trapped inside FB. - Paul Buchheit
Yes, Mr. Morin. Tear. Down. This. Wall. - MG Siegler
I also want photos to flow into Facebook from other repositories. Display my Flickr photos in Facebook and let people tag them please. - Benjamin Golub
Man with all the hypocrisy, it really stinks in here. - Gavin
does not gov have the same exact motivation for not opening up as facebook? - Fred Grott
@sacca's point is fun, but it's a fact that the gov's data is ours, and debatable that FB's is. Both would be great, but the Gov's should happen yesterday. - Nate Koechley
First, government data is created through taxpayer dollars and since we all kinda have an ownership stake in the gov, we should have access to its data. FB data is FB's, per their TOS. Second, FB has data that is more valuable than other services -- it's a big business decision for them to be more open or not, and imho it's not clear if being more open is worth it to them at this point. Update: I see Nate already said basically the same thing. Anyway..... - Eric Eldon
Unfortunately most government organizations get the lowest-bidding contractors to build their content which usually means lock-in to proprietary data and clunky 'net applications. Just check out some of their intranets. IE6-only VBscript running on 10-year old proprietary multimillion dollar software - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl
I've seen a lot of agencies just mirror "what works at other government offices" which tends to perpetuate this cycle of technical stagnation. Some orgs do get the message and it's usually because of some introduction of Web 2.0 technology into certain facets. However, it needs to be internally evangelized and pushed up the ladder to the decision-making personnel (who usually don't understand the need). - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl
Bumping my follow up Twitter comment to FriendFeed comments: Back to my comment on the government. Wouldn't it be awesome to get updates on new laws and programs through the various social feeds? My thoughts on this come from the new cellular phone law in California. I think many people are probably finding out about this for the first time by seeing the blinking signs above the highway. It would be amazing if a notification for a new law came in through twitter, or friendfeed, or facebook (or all of them). - Dave Morin
Yes but Dave you missed everyone's point the value proposition is not in opening up as you would hoped but holding back. Politicians hide info to keep power, corps hide information to keep customers locked in..when users finally have away to route around than that info-lock in has NO POWER..that day is coming Dave very soon - Fred Grott
My comment was intended as a prod between pals. I make it a habit to tease Dave and other friends at FB about the relatively closed nature of some of their platform. I was by no means attempting to jump into the fray regarding OpenSocial/FriendConnect.
That said, as a FB user, while I was thrilled to see them start passing full text emails to me, it does bum me out that I can't reply back to the thread from my regular email inbox. It is an annoyance, and Dave has heard this from me before. This seemed like a fun opportunity to remind him of my #1 feature request.
More importantly, for the record, I am particularly impressed by Dave Morin when I see him participate candidly in public discussions regarding issues like these despite his high profile. Having been in a big company and knowing the effort that it takes to manage internal PR in parallel with community expectations, my hat goes off to him. It is very clear that Dave cares deeply about users and works hard to make them happy. - Sacca
@fred gott. i'm sure dave would like to know how soon that day is, since you seem to have such a clear idea. - Eric Eldon
WRT the lowest bidding contractor theory, hows about some of the more financially comfortable devs offer up their services in the form of govt contracts with outrageously low bids. Put your money where your mouth is so to speak. - Erica Baker
@eric listen to Gillmor Gang its closer than u think - Fred Grott
@Fred we agree on a lot of this. i was put off, however, by your antagonistic language towards dave, who has been at the forefront of opening up social network data to third parties for quite some time now. - Eric Eldon
@eric users wanting their data as free as possible has none of the tone you subscribe to me - Fred Grott
@Fred how many Facebook users want their data free right now? - Eric Eldon
Better if govs give access to the raw data. In my experience, trying to get a decent api from a gov department is kind of tricky. If you get the raw data there are plenty of companies & non-profits who are willing & able to build decent APIs around it. - Nick Lothian
@eric its not free part as u imply we want useful data that can only come about by full data-portability no user will ask for free or data portability because they do not know it as that. - Fred Grott
@fred i fundamentally agree with you. i just think facebook gets too much shit for "not going far enough" even though it has been the (social networking) industry leader in data-sharing. just look at how myspace was treating third party developers in previous years. this is a process. - Eric Eldon
This is what will happen more often with FriendFeed - items that appear and are discussed here will become news more and more. Expect this to happen more often. - Ben Parr
i thought outsourcing his online dating to people who prettended to b him and schedule 1 hour dates with pretty girls all lined up in 1 day was creepy. especially when he fired some outsourced labor 4 picking girls not pretty enuff. if i remember story right that's pretty messed up. - Marshall Kirkpatrick via fftogo
It's a great book, I think i bought the audio book on iTunes then lost it through some HD crashing DRM goodness. Then went out to the book store and bought the "real" book. That guy owes me a beer next time he is in Seattle or where ever I am when we cross paths. I used to recommend it to my coworkers but then I thought maybe i should just recommend it to people I DON'T work with... - Eric_T
He seems like a "unique individual" but love him or hate him you have to respect what he's doing, what he's done and how well he has made it work. - Nicholas Kreidberg
Thing is, his book's title is there only to grab attention. And then he spends the bulk of his book trying to make the content fit the title, and spends his interviews defending his book title. Why couldn't he have been more honest in the first place, and named his book something like "Outsourcing unpleasant tasks"? I'll tell you why. Because that was already known, and because it wouldn't have sold. So he created controversy to boost book sales. In my book, that's DISHONEST. - Raoul Pop
Tim is awesome. The title is what it is and frankly it's probably time folks got over it. He doesn't try and "justify" it - he explains it because people keep asking. Reality? Even in the book itself he is clear and honest about the title. Tim has good advice, and more than that he is a living example of thinking outside the box - just knowing he is out there, pulling it off, helps me think laterally. - Soulhuntre
How can you hate this guy? He's got a unique take on a lot of things and some of it is tongue in cheek but, he's also got some very good things to say. - Candace Holly
Scoble, your welcome for the suggestion to interview Tim, how bout some props? - adolfo foronda
Adolfo: I have known Tim for more than a year, and he was always my first choice to have on the show. I also got dozens of people asking me to have Tim on the show, but thanks! He was a great guest. - Robert Scoble
looks like he's found his answer for the 4-hour work week, anyway. - rambn
Good FastCompany interview, Robert. Enjoyed it. - J. Phil
This some kind of morality play? Kind of a Zen back story... - Mark Forman
I like mundane tweets! keeps people human and lets you know what their lives are like! three cheers for non-tech tweets! - Marshall Kirkpatrick
please let us know when you're going to pop over to the
post office. Inquiring minds want to know. :) - Brett Kelly
This thread cracks me up. And also reminds me that I haven't been to the grocery store in over 2 weeks. My husband probably wishes I was tweeting about going to the grocery store... - Sonciary Honnoll
The suspense is killing me - I can barely stand it!! - Devin Anderson
woo! this is so exciting i am glad i stayed up for this - if he was using brightkite we would know when he picks up the can of peas and the large dozen eggs :-p - Allen Stern
Shit. If he was using BrightKite, we'd know exactly which aisle he was in - and then we'd know exactly WHEN he gets the milk - and if it's dairy or soy. - l0ckergn0me
You fools. Leave Jeremy alone. Your life is so empty, you have to attack his tweets. Losers! - Steven E. Streight
now see Hao - that was a perfect opp for a rickroll - you missed it! :) i am a 1% guy but will do 2% if the expiry date is better! never skim, never full fat - Allen Stern
This and the linked "better recommended" scripts are a big improvement to the FriendFeed experience. I always have a hard time entering my FFAPI key for some reason and I'd suggest you write yours down before installing these scripts but it's really not hard at all and the benefits are big. - Marshall Kirkpatrick via Bookmarklet
Hey, guys. I updated Better Recommended today. It's MUCH BETTER. Optimized speed + added settings to find more people. Re-install now! http://userscripts.org/scripts... - Hao Chen
Just playing devil's advocate, don't take any of this personally or as my opinion. The logic is that there is no real danger, no lasting harm, that it's all perceived. - Ivan via fftogo
Ya, I'm thinking they should just ask suspected terrorists the old fashioned way "pretty please with sugar on top tell us where you friends are and what you know" - Richard
The only way you can claim it's not torture is if you are morally deficient and are trying to protect yourself at the cost of others. And that video is only a minute and a half long. Waterboarding sessions usually last much, much longer. :( - Lucretia Pruitt
Great example of where it would be nice if FF offered multiple characterizations of "like." I think this video is important, compelling, and well done. I cribbed it for my own feed actually. Yet, not sure how to express that sense of value without somehow conveying the lightheartedness that comes with "like." - Sacca
The amount of stupid, ignorant comments on the Youtube link is huge and sadly, probably a good reflection on the average person from your country. - Gabriel
I think I'm slightly disturbed at how they tried to make it "sexy" before showing the torture. I'm sure it was meant to act as a contrast, but it seems to take away from the real terror of waterboarding. - Summer
that's intense. a well made and effective commercial. important, too, though to not forget that this is just one particular chapter in a long story that includes, for example, things like the US military working in close co-operation (http://is.gd/KxG re policies, other links avail re very tactical co-operation) with Colombian death squads that cut civilians apart with chainsaws. (http://is.gd/KxC ) US policies throughout Latin America in particular have always been horrific. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
yeah, it's torture. that's the whole idea. if you're a terrorist and i ask you questions, you're likely gonna lie to me because you're a self-described enemy of mine. if i do this to you a couple times, you're gonna start telling me the truth so i'll stop torturing you. ppl have known for a long time that these techniques work for obtaining information. sux, yeah, but i'm not wanting another 9/11, or worse. you? - Wolfsbayne
I asked one of my pro-Bush co-workers what the U.S. should do if we find out that some other country was waterboarding one of our soldiers because they thought he might be a terrorist. He said, "That's different!" I just walked away. - Harvey Simmons
Harvey: you're right. Our soldiers are better off having their heads cut off. Waterboarding is too cruel. - Richard
@Gabriel: You're probably right. (YouTube is blocked here at work.) A stunning number of people have turned the (appropriate) grief that we all felt about the terrorist attacks into something really scary. - Harvey Simmons
This is a phony issue and a misleading ad. Only three people have been waterboarded by the CIA since 9/11 - http://twurl.cc/2cf - and frankly all three deserved a lot worse than they got. Waterboarding is no longer permitted as an interrogation technique by the CIA. Jihadist propaganda, courtesy of your friends at Amnesty International. - Rob Sterling
Have you read Hitchens' first-hand account of his waterboarding experiment? Horrible. http://politics.drumsnwhistles... (excerpt with link to full article) - Karoli
Not used anymore..better re-read that executive order by Bush its still used - Fred Grott
Its more than 3 sir, it was used our own training programs of military for training of soldiers they had to go through it.. Navy Seals, Rangers, shall I keep going? - Fred Grott
@wolfsbayne The problem is that torture doesn't work. If I torture you, you'll tell me whatever I want to hear, just to make me stop. If I suspect you're a terrorist, but you're not, you'll either tell me false information to make me stop, or keep telling the truth, and I won't stop until you tell me something that fits my preconceived notions of the truth. This is why evidence obtained through torture is not allowed in court. - Ivan via fftogo
It's inhumane. We have court-martialed our own soldiers for doing this during the Vietnam war, and now we can justify it? Where's The Fish? - Harvey Simmons
Agree with Rob Sterling, AI would rather have worldwide terrorism than worldwide safety! - Gavin
@Fred Grott, might as well keep going, because you're not scoring any points. Waterboarding was eliminated as an interrogation tactic by Michael Hayden, head of CIA, in 2005 and hadn't been used since 2003 when he did so. As for training troops with waterboarding, that is to prepare them to face our enemies, who DO torture people regularly, especially when they get their hands on captured US troops. - Rob Sterling
@richard Your logic is faulty. You can't equate us knowing something or not knowing something with someone being beheaded. As Republicans are so fond of reminding people, this is a war, casualties are to be expected. It is worth noting that there are other methods of extracting information that are reliable. Furthermore, what makes the United States such a great company is that it does not stoop to other people's level. We (usually) prefer to stick to the moral high ground. Using your logic, we should have just gas bombed Iraq indescriminately because Saddam did it to the Kurds. And what happens when we're wrong? Like the 5 guys we released in the UK who are suing us because they claim we tortured them. Do we just say "too bad. Our bad," and leave them with their lives in ruins? Psyche in shambles? - Ivan via fftogo
@Jason thanks for bringing politics to FriendFeed :/ - Ivan via fftogo
Ivan: Your point is? Well, I mean, you say all that as if its a bad thing. See the beauty of this "Company" is I can say what ever I like. - Richard
Matthew: I like the music. It added just that little bit of extra drama. - Richard
It feels so wrong to 'like' this video. Are we on to something here? The smiley and the word 'like' almost makes you think you're a psychopath. - Peter Stuifzand
The Hitchens video certainly puts the lie to the Amnesty International video, doesn't it? So to sum up, Amnesty is lying about waterboarding being used currently by the CIA and they're lying about what it looks like and they're lying about how it's done. How much more deceptive could Amnesty International be? - Rob Sterling
Hey, Jason thx for posting. I wonder if anyone could describe the physiologic changes that occur when you force someone to aspirate water. Besides the release of epinephrine as panic ensues causing increased heart rate and blood pressure, I don't think taking water into your lungs could be a totally benign experience. Is this something that Mahalo would be interested in exploring? - Bill Koslosky
@Ivan have you ever been tortured? who's telling you it doesn't work? i'm not looking for court admissible evidence. courts aren't in the business of fighting wars. i'm letting the military and intelligence agencies handle these kooks the way they see fit. richard was correct above. we aren't gonna get anywhere with these religious muslim zealots by simply asking them. my feet are wet with all the bleeding hearts around here. - Wolfsbayne
the Vanity Fair article everyone is linking too is a hell of a read. And let's not forget Senator McCain's vote on the issue. Don't tell me he's not a tool of the administration http://www.radaronline.com/exc... - Erin Kotecki Vest
Did anybody else, while watching that, just kind of seem to "drown" yourself? It was a weird feeling seeing the guy having to spit up the water, like I could feel myself being suffocated. Such an awful form of torture. Not that there's any good form of torture... - Zach Flauaus
I ask what is a better alternative to waterboarding? Should we be force feeding suspects cupcakes till they ask us to stop? Not to mention that video misrepresents the act of waterboarding. - Shawn
@Wolfsbayne the problem isn't whether information will be provided, but whether the information is any good. Even the CIA said the information they got from KSM when torturing him was "not all reliable" (http://snipr.com/2sy8q). The other problem is, of course, the only way to find out if someone's going to give up information under torture is by torturing him. So we torture innocent people. You're OK with that on your conscience? What principles exactly are we supposed to be defending, anyhow? - nathan
I am just guessing here, but I do not think that waterboarding is the first technique used on these people. I would probably guess that this technique is used on people who are being less then corporative. I would also venture to take a guess that some really nice people came in and asked politely at first, and when they did not give them the information that they need, they resort to means which are less polite until you reach the waterboarding phase.
And really how many truly innocent people have been submitted to this technique. If a truly innocent person is being treated in this manner then that is a terrible mistake. But for rest of those savage animals that are allowed to roam free and commit crimes against humanity, I say let them be waterboared. Ask yourself this, if using Waterboarding techniques could prevent just one terrorist attack, and by preventing just that one attack we could save hundreds or even thousands of lives? Is it worth a few people (and when it comes to Religious fanatic terr - Jim
@nathan: The CIA waterboarded three people. THREE PEOPLE. None of the three were innocent. All three of them were complicit in the murder of 3000 people on 9/11. I thank God for those CIA interrogators - they have my THANKS for what they did. I am proud to be their countryman. - Rob Sterling
I tweeted a video from Vanity Fair in which Christopher Hitchens is waterboarded and can last about 17 seconds in a controlled environment. It's horrifying to watch. - Francine Hardaway
@nathan what principles? life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. so, if you're a person, group or country who threatens those principles or an associate of such, ima let my federal government do what they think is necessary in response to said threats. i don't get teary-eyed when terrorists/muslim extremists or friends of terrorists/muslim extremists get into trouble. you shouldn't either because they'd gladly cut your head off, or slice your wife's throat, or blow up your children. - Wolfsbayne
I guess my question was, are you OK with innocent people getting waterboarded, in principle? And if so, what becomes of the "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" stuff? We've already killed an unknown number of innocent people in custody (Google "Dilawar" if you want an example). If you're not OK with torturing the innocent, then how do you know a priori who's innocent and who's guilty? And who decides? - nathan
I'm waiting for it to support Jabber before I'll start to use it. I don't need yet another walled off chat network especially since not enough of my friends use it to make it worthwhile. - David Recordon
I havent but my non tech friends are all using it - to the detriment of IM clients - riaz
Like others have said, once there's (non-beta) support for it in Adium, XMPP, or whatever that means I can use it in my normal IM, I'm all for it. - Cote'
what isn’t to like? I get the feeling you don’t want communication… if so… go watch television. - Noah David Simon
Noah David Simon, I don't know what you mean. I haven't owned a television in 10+ years, but I hear that many people IM while they watch TV! - Marshall Kirkpatrick
I used FB chat to talk to people I hadn't talked to in years. Then I stopped when it occurred to me that I didn't really care. - Dan Kaplan
where you just watching TV now Marshall, because I think I was pretty clear. I'm on facebook and friendfeed to communicate... not a vanity feed - Noah David Simon
I rarely use the chat, I use the chat popup just to see who is online! - Joe Dawson
I've never used it. Don't even know how to find it. - David Parmet via twhirl
