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Mozilla Labs Launches: Open Web Tools Directory - http://www.firefoxninjas.com/mozilla...
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Very Nice tool
- Robert Higgins
This is so cool. I need it now.
- Zachary TG
Very interesting
- Darren Chun
Twitter's Cap of 2,000 Following In Action!
Nicholas James, Jacob, Voyagerfan5761 and 61 other people liked this
As mentioned earlier today, Twitter seems to have capped your ability to follow at 2,000 people, which just so happens to be exactly where I am. The goal, in theory, is to stop marketing-oriented spammers, but it could be another way to reduce stress on the system. So what should I do now, delete "less favored" people, or wait for Twitter to figure this out?
- Louis Gray
from email
Maybe it's the legacy talking, but I'm really not bothered by this. :P
- l0ckergn0me
I can see why they do it, but it does suck for the people who do it legitimately and are not using stupid mass follow scripts.
- David Risley
I'm not super-concerned either, but it does answer why all of a sudden, I started getting these errors last week. It could be part of their "Making Progress On Spam" initiative via the blog, but it hasn't been spelled out all that clearly.
- Louis Gray
let blame this one on Scobles... :)-
- Peter Dawson
Louis, I think cap is more of the architecture the system. Making it into a more robust platform. Now watermarks have been set, it becomes easier to build consistency of experience and application behavior. <Edit > wait for Twitter to figure it out.. Marketing spammers are targeting the 'stupid' one that have the auto follow !!
- Peter Dawson
gotta like it, if I'm the one you are trying to follow!
- Ben Hedrington
I don't think there should be limits like this, but I guess everything can't be infinite
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I honestly am indifferent about it; Twitter is going to hell and i tried my best to convert it; oh well, Hell has cookies
- Gordon Swaby
I"m only following 49... with 106 followers..
- Ian May
so what do you think, Louis, is benhedrington worth going to the mat for?
- Nathan Rein
I'm sure I can find someone to unfollow in exchange for Ben.
- Louis Gray
Twitter needs to build in groups functionality a la tweetdeck for following 2K+ to even be practical.
- Nicholas Molnar
Louis: You need to convince the new people to head over here :)
- Justin Korn
I'm just curious what the rationale is for following that many people.
- Paul Rodriguez
Well, maybe that's why Louis always seems to know what's going on before anybody else.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've noticed that most of the time I get followed by somebody with a big number, it tends to be marketing play. It triggers the email to you and then you go look and click on their bio link which takes you to the pitch. Very irritating. I always block em.
- Mark Schulz
@Paul Rodriguez, I was wondering that too. I wouldn't have even guessed there are 2000 interesting people in the world </cynicism>, but what fascinate me is that i'm following like 83 people and only about 14 of them tweet regularly. I can assume most of those 2000 do not tweet regularly. Add in the fact that I'm a WAHM to two toddlers, and do other stuff, there'd be a lot of stuff I'd miss.
- Admiral Anika
New profit center? Sorry, but now you'll have to join Twitter Pro ....
- Charlie Anzman
Info restrictions suck:(
- Igor Poltavskiy
Very interesting. System limits is going to be a topic that we all work through in this early phase of the Social Web. It seems to me that it's reasonable to cap the number one follows to 1,000 or 2,000. On the flipside, one would clearly like to enable a very high number of followers. With respect to bi-directional connections, the real number should max at 1,000 to 2,000...
- John McCrea
This is awesome! Incidentally, Scoble (@Scobleizer) is still following over 30K.
- Vincent van Wylick
So where is the point following 30k people? You might as well hit the main timeline. The only thing that is bad about this limit is that it was not there from the beginning.
- Alexander Kohlhofer
@kevinrose: 56K+. Losing 54K+?
- Igor Poltavskiy
so what's going to happen to those who follow over 2000?
- Wayne Sutton
you follow two. thousand. people.??? never mind twitter; there may be a law against that.
- jeneane sessum
I like the new limit. I cannot see how anyone would be able to legitimately follow (and pay attention to) more than 2,000 people. Frankly, even that limit seems higher than it needs to be. If it helps keep Twitter a little more stable, go for it.
- Dennis Metzcher
Couple thoughts: the limit impacts the ability to use the service as a direct message router -- for some people. It also reinforces the need for dectralized microblogging -- so if you want exceed the limits you can do so on your own infrastructure. Lastly, nothing prevents you from following everyone or a subset of people through RSS/feeds.
- Chris Messina
Are we sure that Twitter has set a 2,000 limit are or we cranking up the rumor mill? I've seen image before with respect to my own account - an account which just reached 1,000 followers today. According the Twitter rep who contacted me, I got - ahem - put in "Twitter Prison" for "Aggressive Following" My ratio of Followers to Following was kinda out of whack - at that time I had only ~800 people following me while I was following ~2,800 - They suspended my ability to follow more people. I removed 2K.
- Vincent Wright
I don't understand the motivation for following 2K people if you're not a spammer... someone explain?
- Jason Carreira
Jason: For a entrepreneur/VC/angel networker, it would be very easy to hit 2,000 contacts (assuming you used Twitter like a rolodex). From one networking meeting, I might pick up 0-100+ business cards (more at conferences), and during a heavy season I could be doing 7-10 meetings/week. As a angel, I might want to follow 5,000-10,000+ projects/people. Anyone might have a really good project 2-10+ years down the pipe... I've got cartons/boxes of 3-ring binders of business cards in plastic sheets.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell @Charlie - Rumors aside, do you think the cap is a gesture towards monetization? Going after the power networkers? Seems you would have good cause to pay for a Twitter Pro, or would it just not be worth it?
- joneilortiz
I use Twitter as both a professional development tool (following people who say useful and interesting things abt health / edtech / social media / libraries ...), a personal tool (friends and folk who are amusing), and a reference tool (following a lot of news streams and information resources). You can hit 2000 fast. A friend says that people are imagining new ways in which Twitter could be used, but Twitter seems bound and determined to force them back into some small box of how it "ought" to be.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I would happily follow more than 2000 people, heck I am almost there. And I don't need to see every message. With Tweetdeck it's manageable. I see some Friendfeed users here have thousands to tens of thousands of subscriptions, should we also say it's good to have a cap here? No, please no. I understand that perhaps it has to do with monetization or stressing the system less, these are alas viable reasons.
- Jacob
Humility is __________.
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scooping out your cats' litter boxes
- Alex Scoble
... rarely found on FriendFeed.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
what egotists always claim to have plenty of.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
not practiced nearly enough.
- Derrick
+++Mark & Jack. :)
- Admiral Anika
Alex drawing a blank on humility, big surprise! <3
- Geoff Schultz
Geoff Schultz commenting blithely on one of your posts
- Alex Scoble
In an act of humility I had to look up the word "blithely." ;*(
- Geoff Schultz
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good." - Confucius
- imabonehead
... taking out the trash and cleaning the bathroom without being asked first.
- Steven Perez
from NoiseRiver
Letting actions speak louder than words ... and sharing chocolate.
- Mona Nomura
always being right :)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Changing nappies (diapers)
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
dead
- Shevonne
on sale at your nearest 99 cent store.
- imabonehead
moisture content in the air.
- Mattb4rd
Derived from Latin.......
- Matthew DeVries
not for the weak
- William Harryman
“It ain't the heat; it's the humility.” - Yogi Bera
- MikeAmundsen
neither you nor me.
- Josh Haley
plunging the toilet in the Ladies Room, again.
- Robert Hafer
Accepting those that don't like BROWNIES.
- Mona Nomura
realizing that you aren't as special as mommy always told you :(
- Andrew Badera
and yes, for damn sure, the cats' litter box.
- Andrew Badera
a bunch of cupcakes...
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
a Bitch!
- Jeff P. Henderson
recognizing the truth over your own PR.
- Josef Finsel
from twhirl
not on friendfeed
- Terry O'Fee
I disagree, Terry. Every time someone asks a question or for help, humility is there. Every time someone posts about the health issues of a loved one (or their own for that matter), humility is there. Humility is on friendfeed if you are humble enough to look for it.
- Alex Scoble
accepting responsibility. In all things.
- Martha
there are some great people, and then there's people arguing over the most trivial and stupid things.
- Terry O'Fee
"plunging the toilet in the Ladies Room, again?" -- I didn't know women were capable of such things.
- Bryan Clark
i shouldnt say at all. but look at some of the arguments that go on around here..
- Terry O'Fee
Servicing the Ladies Room certainly damages the Femine Mystique.
- Robert Hafer
Accepting those that love BROWNIES.
- Admiral Anika
What's wrong with arguing over stupid and trivial things? Everyone's got to have a hobby and that happens to be one of mine.
- Alex Scoble
a lot of people on here when arguing about it never think "hmmm, maybe i'm wrong...."
- Terry O'Fee
and accepting those that dislike BROWNIES...
- Bryan Clark
Listening not talking ... Saying sorry ... Smiling like you mean it
- Wes Schadenfreud
...confused.
- Kol Tregaskes
...overrated.
- Daniel Bruce
A willingness to serve others
- bcultral
Abobe To Open Real-Time Messaging Protocol - http://tech.slashdot.org/article...
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Why Are Bloggers Writing Shorter And Shorter Posts? - Web Development Blog - http://www.velvetblues.com/web-dev...
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"Have you noticed? Bloggers these days seem to be writing shorter and shorter articles, with many of the longer ones artificially inflated with images. So what’s up with this trend? And why is it starting to dominate the industry? From The Experts: Go Short and Snappy! According to the experts, readers want simple easily-digestible content, that can be quickly read or scanned. And, as Seth Godin points out on his blog, there is stiff competition online. Writing shorter posts gets your point across quickly without giving visitors a chance to leave. He states: Realize that people have choices. With 80 million other blogs to choose from, I know you could leave at any moment (see, there goes someone now). So that makes blog writing shorter and faster and more exciting. So is short the way to go? Maybe. There are indeed advantages to writing short posts which include:"
- Internet Strategist
from Bookmarklet
This is bullshit. Go back to my blog from 2004 and you will see mostly one-paragraph posts.
- Robert Scoble
People will read long well written posts, but since most of us aren't very good writers short posts do less damage to readers.
- Todd Hoff
Phrases like "seem to be" are useless. You need to have some facts to back up your assertions (which are probably true; my shorter, image-filled posts tend to get much more feedback than longer, more thoughtful ones). Without data, however, you have no thesis.
- Mistletoe Glen
depends on the blogger ~ I'd wish some would write shorter posts
- sofarsoShawn
Pretty soon, people are going to stop reading all together, because everyone is going to have ADD.
- Brad Williamson
Good points Robert and Glen. Some bloggers write almost all short posts, others mostly long researched posts, and some a mix of both. LOL @ godd and sofarsoshawn. @Glen You do know I just shared this here and that quote is from the post? I didn't write it and the person who did isn't very likely to see this here.
- Internet Strategist
we should send the dumbass these comments
- sofarsoShawn
There's a short-term traffic driving strategy: write something controversial to get lots of discussion going. Probably wouldn't pay off in the long run in this case though.
- Internet Strategist
I must have missed the memo :) My take is as long as it needs to be to tell the story. Yours?
- Valeria Maltoni
The only reason one has to consider such things is if the goal is pageviews/ $. Otherwise, it is a non-issue.
- coldbrew
yeah right...so how many blogs did you look at???
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think it's a mix of $$$ and laziness too
- Bibi
Some people today have extremely short attention spans and just skim through valuable content. Because they don't have time or because there's just a LOT of content they're following. So maybe [some] bloggers are writing shorter posts to hold this group's attention? Just my guess. But to me, it's not about the length, but about the quality.
- deepikaur
The length of the post depends on the depth of the content you're posting. The masses probably DO prefer short, simple content. Thinkers know that exceptional results require more detail. You'll see the same thing with the number of posts someone reads. Drive a bunch of traffic from Twitter and your bounce numbers will go up to around 70%. When someone is researching they'll read far more posts at one time.
- Internet Strategist
test.... too many assumptions. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Why not?
- Sean
Data on the subject would be interesting. Intuitively, I would assume the rules of traffic generation lead to short posts because (and this is my feeling with no data) traffic is generated by: outrageous claims, single undeveloped interesting ideas, inflammatory posts, and quick reads (top X lists). All of those tend to lead to shorter posts. Again, real data would be fascinating.
- mikepk
Personally I would rather ready shorter blogs, just because of the limited amount of time I have to put into reading all the post that come into my RSS reader.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Two other points, I don't think it's laziness... getting traffic is hard work. Also I don't know if this would hold for all bloggers, since the end goal of most is not necessarily generating raw traffic numbers.
- mikepk
Every time John Resig finishes a sentence, my mind explodes. If your feeds don't challenge you like this with every post, unsub. You are doing yourself a disservice by subbing stuff that doesn't enthrall you!
- mjc
as someone who tends to write long posts on WinExtra it is often really hard to write the shorter format on The Inquisitr. They both have their value but I think it is partly to do with your target audience. That sid I have tried to write shorter posts on WinExtra but it's hard when the ideas just keep flowing. Are we suppose to just shut up because of a fear of alienating readers with a growing lack of attention?
- Steven Hodson
@scobleizer Happy Birthday Robert Scoble ✿ http://go2.me/UV
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Thank you for the birthday wishes. Having breakfast in bed is sublime!
- Robert Scoble
Happy Birthday Scoble, have a blast.
- Amit Nangare
Oh, someone is spoiling you today... :-) take advantage of this and stay in bed! AND, thanks for all of your great discussions here.
- Orli Yakuel
@maryamie spoils me every day.
- Robert Scoble
Happy Birthday Robert! Enjoy the day.
- Rob Diana
happy birthday! my father-in-law is also celebrating his birthday today =)
- Davide D'Incau
Is this the Happy Birthday Scoble thread? If so, happy bday Scoble!!!
- Corvida
No no... there's another fancy one on his account http://friendfeed.com/e... :-) but the more the merry!
- Orli Yakuel
Gillmor Gang is all about Arrington and Calacanis trying to get me to blog. Interesting debate. Now Arrington and Calacanis are going at it.
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Calacanis is trying to get someone to blog? Has he taken his own advice?
- Jesse Stay
+1 Jesse!
- Susan Beebe
I wouldn't take them so literally, Robert. They're really talking about more persistent, substantial, lasting content rather than stuff that just streams by. Another book, perhaps? How much do firms like Forrester charge for their research? You could be the Tom Peters of Social Media or something if you wanted to.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: there are lots of paths open to me. What I care about is having interesting conversations. I should have made that point. Blogging never was about making money for me. If it were I would have done it a lot differently over the years.
- Robert Scoble
good luck, man
- George Borges
Cool. I can appreciate not worrying about how to monetize everything one does. Believe me. But I do think there's some good advice in there for all of us in Jason & Michael's dis'ing Re at least thinking about generating something lasting.
- Ken Sheppardson
Something lasting? Yesterday's newspapers line today's birdcages. What is the lasting part? Building a "media empire"? Don't get me wrong, what Arrington has done is amazing and he has earned respect for doing it, but he is protecting his market position from an upstart challenger. (obviously IMHO - I'm inferring motive here which is always best guess).
- Brian Roy
Brian: I never said Jason and/or Michael were taking their own advice. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: Gotcha.
- Brian Roy
Yeah @MatchesMalone I get that @techcrunch is trying to intervene on my twitter/friendfeed addiction.
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Gillmor Gang 12.31.08 - http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008...
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The Gillmor Gang - Mike Arrington, Robert Scoble, Jason Calacanis, Marc Canter, Andrew Keen, Hugh MacLeod, and Gabe Rivera - ring out the old year. Recorded Wednesday, December 31, 2008.
- Steve Gillmor
Please note that this is on friendfeed. Arrington and Calacanis give me a bunch of shit about me spending all my time on friendfeed. Just to get back at them I'm going to link to this on my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Even though I clicked "like", I thought the Scobleizer bashfest was a bit over the top. I'm sure it's all taken with the proverbial grain of salt, but still...I would hate being talked down to like that in public.
- Karoli
Oh, and if you link to it from your blog too maybe we can mess up techmeme. Doubtful. The headline isn't good enough here. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I give Robert HUGE PROPS for showing up... I'm sure he knew what was coming...
- Brian Roy
LOL to you, Robert about the Techmeme munge. Sure, I'll link to it from the blog. I'd planned to anyway. To the Friendfeed link, of course. ;-)
- Karoli
Robert - YES!! give them shit!! hahahaaa! they soo deserve it too!! * Happy New Year you FF addict! :)
- Susan Beebe
@scobleizer good headlines is not the gesture that is needed
- Christian Burns
Brian: Arrington sure knows how to get my goat.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: In the tone of voice being used, it wouldn't have mattered what he said. My goat was ready to bite him in the butt.
- Karoli
Funny I didn't hear so much attacking Robert as defending current position.
- Brian Roy
Blog post: this is NOT a long, thoughtful blog post: http://tinyurl.com/9pquw6
- Robert Scoble
Karoli: being talked down to usually is a sign that you are in the more powerful position.
- Robert Scoble
Ken (Camp) : So this is your first GG then? :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: perhaps. In the true spirit of Gillmor Gang fandom, I submit this post in support of Techmeme gaming http://ur1.ca/0kpu
- Karoli
Ken (Camp): if you are listening to the Gillmor Gang for in an attempt to find any value you will always be unsatisfied.
- Robert Scoble
one listens to the Gillmor Gang for the experience. It's like LSD, downloaded to your iPod.
- Karoli
Karoli: ...or your Zune. Tomorrow.
- Ken Sheppardson
Karoli: bad LSD.
- Robert Scoble
Thanking Ken and Robert for the coffee through the nose moment. ;-)
- Karoli
Ken: how long did you get into it? For the real lack of value you have to listen to about 23 minutes into this one.
- Robert Scoble
Yet one more good old boys dialogue simply repeating conversations many others are having, but given press because you are considered the top dogs of the 'net? Give me a break! Make it matter! You guys have the ability to create content that makes a difference and you simply re-purpose content like many bloggers. (where are the women in your group?)
- Sheryl
Sheryl, Gillmor Gang is unabashedly and unapologetically male because of how it formed and how it continues. It's produced by a woman and NewsGang Live has women on it...like me. :)
- Karoli
Ken: I never said there was anything interesting. Stop trying to look for it. You won't find it on the Gillmor Gang. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sheryl: if you want real content, go to http://www.fastcompany.tv -- there you'll find Tim OReilly, Guy Kawasaki, and other smart people sharing their lives with you.
- Robert Scoble
@Ken Camp To be fair, robert specifically promised there would be no content on the show. Could he have done more? I doubt it.
- Karoli
Karoli: no content and no issues.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, true that.
- Robert Miller
Robert: Right, I forgot the issues part. No content, no issues. Vintage stuff.
- Karoli
Ken: no content, no issues, no good company. Sounds even better! Just having some fun. Personally I agree with you. If you want to learn something go watch the socialtext videos I put up today on http://scobleizer.com
- Robert Scoble
Not entirely content free, Robert. I'd have to say there's some good career advice in there for you. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert, thanks for the commercial. I'm still struggling with the whole idea that my time is getting wasted because the herd points out all you superpowers and we all run to hear the next great idea only to hear the same stuff we get anywhere else on the net. Show me why you're better than that. Make it worth my time. I'm valuable too.
- Sheryl
Sheryl: it's like a diet coke: no calories. No nutritional value. But I still drink them. I actually agree with you. The good stuff I do never gets on Techmeme. That's where I disagree with Mike and Gabe. Only the stuff that gets a herd moving gets noticed. Welcome to my life. Sheppardson: interesting career advice. My videos pay me a lot more than anyone pays to advertise on my blogs. So, if I were a businessman I would just bag all of this and go shoot more videos.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Point me to your single best thing or idea. Show me. Let me see what YOU value and you think is important.
- Sheryl
Sheryl: the best interview I did this year was the one with Tim O'Reilly. But, what are you looking for? Something useful? I think this video with Google's mobile guru: http://www.fastcompany.tv/video... is probably the most useful one, but any of the workfast shows I did had lots of useful stuff in them.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Thank you. That's what I wanted. To know you heard...as opposed to herd :) Going NOW! :)
- Sheryl
Sheryl: I guess it depends what you're looking for. Some people just want to hear someone smart give you their ideas. That's why TIm O'Reilly works. Others want to get something useful that they can use on their keyboards. The Panorama video I'm doing a blog post about right now fits into that.
- Robert Scoble
Arrington really gets the concept of Twitter not being mainstream - there are many Facebook apps with more users than Twitter right now. Twitter is still far from being mainstream.
- Jesse Stay
A also think, based on what Gabe is saying, that he's now tracking Retweets to get content (from blogs) on TechMeme
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - so the "if everyone else jumped off a bridge you would too" method. I know we need mechanisms to determine rank (pun intended) because we want the "important" stuff... but at the end of the day we are simply classifying popular vs. unpopular.
- Brian Roy
Robert: I watched the video you did with Sumit Agarwal. It's really good and I quite enjoyed the SMS content. One clarification, truphone is NOT from Pat Phelan. It's James Tagg - James Body et al. Pat Phelan is maxRoam. They do sim cards. :) Going in search of Tim O'Reilly now . Thanks.
- Sheryl
Robert, I don't think you wasted time with Twitter and Friendfeed because you spent all that time with people learning what they think
- paul mooney
this was a big waste of time
- Antonio Altamirano
Brian, Techmeme is supposed to be a Democratic republic (somewhat) - most links win, but filtered by actual human beings to make the final decisions
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: that's NOT how Techmeme works. It works half off of links and half off of who has the best reputation for certain kinds of content (according to what Gabe puts in his database). I've seen posts get onto Techmeme without having any inbound links.
- Robert Scoble
"You're like a heroin addict, trying to convince people that heroin is a good thing" Haha. Keep it real Scoble, ignore those bozos. The jealousy here is pretty alarming. They just don't see it yet...it's not their fault.
- Kevin Pruett
really would have liked to hear what steve or marc had to say in defense of scoble
- Christopher Harris
That an audio?? great, can't hear it but never the less..it's proably a waste of time reading the comments.. i posted a few days ago here asking about all this "bitchfest" going on, comment baiting, who gives a shit really? why don't you guys tell us how you REALLY feel? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I liked Scoble's steadfast self-defense. To recap: "Dude, you need to be paid for your work. Dude, we want you to write long thought pieces, on a blog, but we're not going to pay you." Lots of advice, from interested parties. Take with a small mountain of salt.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
The last Gillmor Gang @stevegillmor will be today at 1. Still no content and no issues. :-)
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just the last one for 2008, right?
- Karoli
Karoli: if there's ever content or issues on Gillmor Gang it usually is one of the lame ones that no one listens to. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, no I get that. Absolutely no content, no issues. same for NGL. But you said the 'last Gillmor Gang' . Of course, every one is the last...but just clarifying.
- Karoli
Right. Last Gillmor Gang of 2008.
- Robert Scoble
What content or issues are you looking to cover?
- hadleystern
Content and issue free makes it like an empty whiteboard--and we know the greatness that can produce. Look forward to the show!
- Bill Rice
hadleystern: hopefully there are no content or issues to cover. Why? That would require work and I'm not into work. Plus, it always gets boring when we start to get an agenda.
- Robert Scoble
Leo says he is talking to you in a few days on TWiT
- David Lloyd
The best Gillmor Gangs (and NewsGang LIves) are the ones with no content, no issues. Laughed my way all the way through Sunday's Newsgang Live...twice. once live, once on playback.
- Karoli
No content and no issues: so, kind of a quiet chat?
- Michael Krigsman
Michael: sometimes loud. :-)
- Robert Scoble
So can we watch you do it live someplace?
- David Lloyd
good man
- David Lloyd
no issues? YOU? hard to believe
- bcultral
who's on with you?
- Landon
Steve Gillmor, Robert Scoble, Hugh MacLeod, Jerry Schuman, Tina Chase Gillmor, and more ...
- Robert Scoble
Damn that ustream chat room. it will not let me stay connected. no matter what. grrrr.
- Karoli
ok, so maybe how twitter, ff, etc. are changing how bloggers define what they do and what is expected of them.
- Landon
naa that sucked. how about this: social media has allowed an expression of humanity's basic recognition and dislike of being manipulated. social advertising isn't working because it just feels like the same old manipulation. what will the next effective advertising look like?
- Landon
bet you're wound up after that show. i will say i watch your interviews more and respect you more due to your accessiblity through twitter and ff.
- Landon
Landon: heh, Yeah, it was a rough one. Being on the receiving end of four big names in tech blogging isn't easy. Their advice is both wrong and right. Which makes it important to listen to what you care about. I'm going to do my own thing. If that costs me money, oh well. At least I'll stay true to myself. What they don't get is that you can write a long post here. I write thousands of words every day here. I personally think they are scared of something they don't control.
- Robert Scoble
i personally agree. "haters" are the same in every walk of life. their emotion and over-focus on your initiatives screams fear. they need to embrace what the web (and twitter) continues to do, allow individuals greater near-real-time access than ever before. i think ego gets in the way of that sometimes.
- Landon
I heard some good content and issues there amidst the noise.
- Michael Krigsman
Michael: totally by accident! :-)
- Robert Scoble
is this like the Gilmore GIrls
- sofarsoShawn
2009 prediction: redefining the meanings of signal and noise
- Michael Krigsman
How many times do I need to nominate myself?
- Photar
Robert, I only heard about the first 40 minutes before I had to leave. Writing long weighty things makes sense if you have something long and weighty to say. But you are first and foremost a conversation guy. The conversations are happening in the places you're inhabiting now -- twitter, friendfeed, etc. I thought they were dead wrong to pile it on, even though you take it well.
- Karoli
I missed this... away from laptop and iPhone won't pull Ustream in due to flash FAIL... dang it!!
- Susan Beebe
Susan it's posted on Techcrunch now http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Karoli
Karoli: wait until friendfeed becomes a blogging tool. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Isn't it already? How many two paragraph + quote blog posts have you NOT written because you could share + Note in Google Reader and have it pop up on FriendFeed & show up on your blog in the FF Widget?
- Brian Roy
Brian: ssssshhhhh, don't wake up the whales!
- Robert Scoble
Hey @JasonCalacanis you should watch the long and soulfull videos I've been doing lately. That's my long-form stuff. My blog will be back.
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If only those videos where also available as an mp3 :)
- Christian Burns
Christian: to turn them into MP3's just close your eyes! Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Pfffttt....blogging is so 5 years ago.
- Alex Scoble
Robert: LOL
- Michael Krigsman
@Scobleizer you need to challenge your self to stop the short messages and write something deep and soulful (again). This big picture.
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A Look Back at 2008 and a Look Ahead to 2009 - http://www.winsupersite.com/server...
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What's Next After Web 2.0 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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The Depression 2.0, also known as 1929 again
- Ian D. Nock
I think a tech 3.0, instead of a 'consumer websites' 2.0. I'd like to see some revolutionary technology usher in the next bubble, instead of just 'new websites competing for eyeballs.'
- Andrew Leyden
I'm in Palo Alto. Just had yogurt at shop that Steve Jobs eats at frequently. They said he was in a couple of days ago and is in great health.
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Now I'm hanging out in the Apple store where Jobs shows up frequently. Will let you know if I learn anything.
- Robert Scoble
Investigative journalism at it's best. :-)
- Andrew Dobrow
Scoble tracking Steve Jobs' eating route. Oh dear.
- Oyvind Solstad
Scoop McScoble.
- Thomas Hawk
What flavor does Steve like? [edit] Seriously, I think it would be interesting. Sort of like asking what your favorite animal is, I think it might reveal something.
- AJ Kohn
You know you are going to make AAPL stock rocket in the morning if you keep this up?
- Dominic Jones
Yeah, I saw him last month eating spicy Indian food and swiping through his black iPhone. He looked perfectly fine.
- Mason Lee
Are you stalking him or is this a 'walk a mile in his shoes' sort of thing?
- Admiral Anika
Scoble- our man in Palo Alto. Thanks.
- Roberto Bonini
AJ: they wouldn't tell me. :-) But they say that they deliver a whole bunch to Apple's executives every week.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Have missed your FF comments today!
- Michael Krigsman
You do realize that if you keep this up and you're going to be nabbed as a SJ stalked.
- amygeek
"In Search Of" LOL
- Von Glitschka
The store is http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/ by the way.
- Robert Scoble
it's the paparazzi on Steve Jobs!
- Elijah Nicolas
Of course they gave me a sales pitch for how their yogurt is keeping him healthy. :-)
- Robert Scoble
What is it with the reemergence of yogurt shops these days anyway? It's like it's 1983 all over again. Are they replacing coffee shops?
- Ciaoenrico
@Scoble @AJ I bet it's Schnozberry (sorry for the obscure reference)
- Andrew Dobrow
http://swanktastic.org/... I guess other people have met Jobs there.
- Robert Scoble
I'm watching the after-hours trading in AAPL to see if this great breaking news has any impact. Still four minutes left.... Will update :-)
- Dominic Jones
Ciaonenrico: I had a latte there too. The yogurt is the best in Northern California.
- Robert Scoble
They need some help with their blog: http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/blog...
- AJ Kohn
http://scobleizer.com/2008... is my report and photos of one of the co-owners. It always has a line of people waiting to get in.
- Robert Scoble
Why is it that Apple isn't confirming or denying anything do you think, Robert?
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple won't confirm or deny anything. Try asking them whether Steve Jobs is CEO. I bet they wouldn't confirm or deny that.
- Robert Scoble
@Mona N. Because they believe it's no one's business if Steve sneezes.
- Dominic Jones
The real CEO is clearly Dick Cheney
- Andrew Dobrow
So, he's still alive? ;) BTW, what is THE interview you wish to make in 2009?
- Konstantin
But clearly, he is not well... isn't it about time they say SOMETHING? :\
- Mona Nomura
Then what? Sell your stock? If Apple's value is so wrapped around one person isn't that a clear risk already?
- Hayes Haugen
Konstantin: 1. Barack Obama. 2. Steve Jobs. 3. Steve Ballmer. 4. Mark Zuckerberg. 5. Bret Taylor. 6. Evan Williams. 7. Jonathan Ives. 8. Vic Gundotra. 9. Barack's CTO. 10. A bunch of geeks who I don't know but who are changing the world.
- Robert Scoble
It has nothing to do with stock, it's handling smooth transitions IF there is something wrong so we (consumers) have confidence in them (Apple).
- Mona Nomura
Mona: we're all dying. I know a lot of people who have died that were very healthy. Or seemed to be. Marc Orchant anyone? I don't know that Steve isn't well. Having cancer can cause you to live healthy and lose weight. But, I already assume the dude will die. So will I. Until he's ready to talk I have to assume he's fine. Obviously he's not bedridden if he's coming into yogurt stores.
- Robert Scoble
Red Mango or Fraiche? I prefer Red Mango on University.
- Randy Ksar
from twhirl
Randy: I'm partial to Fraiche. Maybe we need a taste-off? :-)
- Robert Scoble
We're all speculating and won't know for sure until Steve Jobs either steps down or retires. Either which way, this is really bad on Apple's part because they are (to me) encouraging rumors and speculation, irresponsible journalism, and publishing. The question is: Are we ok with that?
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple is too secretive about everything. But that's who they are and they probably know that this publicity is good for them. It keeps us all wondering what the real story is. Guarantees everyone will attend Jobs' next press conference.
- Robert Scoble
If people are getting worried when a CEO is getting thin, shouldn't we be more worried over weight CEOs? They are more all of a heart attack time-bomb than SJ is a health risk. Why don't we ask all those fat CEOs to disclose *their* health record?
- Clarence Chiang
Clarence: yes. +1000.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not worried about him. Is no one familiar with the old adage, "An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away."
- Kevin Murray
Clarence: It's not just any CEO. It is Steve Jobs. Do you think his predecessor will generate this much news? Robert: I understand that, but that is so not ok, in my book.
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple doesn't listen to me on PR issues either. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
hahhahahhahhahha
- Mona Nomura
There's a Red Mango here, and I've had Fraiche. I prefer Fraiche.
- Jesse Stay
I find myself wondering if SJ has an Alcor policy.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Who is Steve Jobs?
- Steve Rubel
Do they even make apple yogurt? It probably tastes better if you eat it with a mock turtle neck on.
- Keith Beucler
Great reporting Robert. The real losers here are the gossip sites like Gizmodo who perpetuate rumors with "anonymous sources" who are "100 %" correct.
- James
So I was there today with Robert when he got the scoop. Spiderman's frenemy James Defranco was spotted there. http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/
- Ross Mayfield
Why don't u interview him? I can see it now... "so who are you?"
- mal
That place is buzzing - why hasn't anyone else reported seeing him there?
- Jesse Stay
Hope he's well. In any case, despite all the coverage, what I haven't heard about is whether Apple's doing anything at CES? Do they usually exhibit? CES isn't something I've paid any attention to in the past but if Apple's becoming (as some are saying) the new Sony, wouldn't CES be important?
- Gordon Vaughan
Apple never goes to CES. Apple has its own show from now on: it's called its network of stores and Engadget. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Schnozberry! Who's ever heard of a schnozberry?
- Kerri
Now that Jobs has made his January 5 announcement, we can all reflect. In my view, even if they didn't know anything, Apple & Jobs should have made some sort of statement in December, when the Macworld announcement was made. It wouldn't have been perfect, especially since they may not have known about the hormonal imbalance at the time, but better to say something than nothing. If nothing else, it would have kept Robert out of the yogurt shop. :)
- Ontario Emperor
just posted something. Let's see how long it takes to get to RSS.
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exciting, is it about twitter alerts?
- sean percival
Yo Gillmor. How's trix?
- Thomas Hawk
good thomas. et tu?
- Steve Gillmor
Thomas: when are we gonna do a photowalk? I wanna shoot the seals at ana neuevo. Wanna go?
- Robert Scoble
Shooting seals will get you in trouble. Gotta use something quiet, like a club. ;-)
- Jeremy Brooks
1 hour. nothing. feedburner is fucked. google, wake up
- Steve Gillmor
twitter is the new RSS ?
- Adrian
aac74 Google wants RSS dead apparently
- Steve Gillmor
from IM
Queue TC post in 3, 2, 1...
- Mohamed J
2 hours. still no feedburner. pathetic
- Steve Gillmor
Showed up in my feeds about 10 minutes ago. Nice post, too.
- Karoli
I took one of my WordPress sites off FeedBurner last week and added SUP support. Totally rocks. We should go it alone.
- Chris Baskind
I accept your challenge: http://ur1.ca/0jir
- Karoli
Very nice, Karoli. You get a special new place in my RSS reader. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Chris, thank you. :)
- Karoli
Twitter: We Need Search By Authority - http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
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Loic, I think this is the first time I've found an idea of your's terrible.
- Shawn Farner
Prediction: this will turn into yet another A-Lister vs Z-Lister / Gatekeeper BitchMeme.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, I thought the same thing....and I also think it's a terrible idea.
- Karoli
Twitter, FriendFeed, etc. have done so much to level out the playing field and now we're seeing a real backlash - people longing for the days where there were only a handful of voices and the rest of us just listening. Sorry, but the horses are out of the barn.
- Mike Doeff
Agree - Horrid idea. Defeats the purpose entirely
- Charlie Anzman
I don't care about the A-list vs. Z-list thing, but I do want to see who's tweets have been retweeted the most. Also, I would love to order tweets in order of who has most followers, and who is following most. Also which Tweet has gotten most "favorites." It's really lame, by the way, that friendfeed lets us add so much metadata into the system (comments and likes) but doesn't let us search on that metadata in any meaningful way. Funny that Google built a multi-billion-dollar business by using that metadata
- Robert Scoble
Yep the horses are out of the barn and running. Even if we have to contend with stupid spammers and the like, the benefit of speaking our own minds is well worth it. No ranking necessary.
- Karoli
Google's metadata was links. friendfeed could do so much more for its search, which is very lame so far. Hopefully in 2009 we'll see dramatic changes to friendfeed's search. If they do, then all my time spent here will have been worth it.
- Robert Scoble
The only problem I foresee is that "authority" is subjective, and what someone considers the benchmarks for being an authority would probably be different to someone elses. I think what is truly needed especially with Twitter Search is more granularity over the metadata.
- Bryce Roney
Bryce: exactly. Calling it "authority" will piss people off, too. Google internally calls it 'relevance" but you don't see that word associated with any of its search rankings.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I posted a link the other day to a guy doing research on retweet frequencies...very interesting stuff. It's here on my feed somewhere.
- Karoli
Robert - I have a 'feeling' Friendfeed isn't done yet :)
- Charlie Anzman
Karoli - Two links - http://danzarrella.com/rtm-sea... and http://www.retweetradar.com/
- Atul Arora
# of followers is a useless metric. I explain why over on TechCrunch post that follows up on this Loic post: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
The search by authority will get subject to the same manipulation as Page Rank does right now. In some sense Google Search is search by authority.
- Atul Arora
@Scoble good reply totally agree, twitter's hit and miss on whoh you follow
- sofarsoShawn
I'm not quite sure that number of followers could be a good indicator of authority, but also retweets, favs and maybe a combination of that.
- Marilín Gonzalo
how about base it on the sum of the ratios of # times favorited/# of followers and # times retweeted/# of followers if favorited has same weight as retweet.
- KyNam Doan
+1 KyNam, I was just writing the same idea when your comment appeared. A measure of how much authority one has, needs to include some reaction from their 'audience'. It seems relatively easy to gain 1000+ followers who may never (or rarely) read your tweets.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
organic works well. follow others and build up a genuine network gradually. See how those you think Tweets well/with your interest Tweet others.
- AlexBowman
from twhirl
The day this happens I leave. Already growing weary of self congratulatory bacon posts by a hardcore group who seem to have lost their blogging skills and hang out here all day. Weird.
- Wayne Schulz
Chris Loft really, really, really liked this. But isn't this bacon thing off topic?
- Chris Loft
Whose Authority? Did someone elect you, Scoble and Arrington Presidents of Social Media already? LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Weighing in to concur that authority by number of followers is a very bad idea.
- Internet Strategist
...why is it that christmas turns [digital] sheeple always into some authority huggers ?; i hope friendfeed stays authority free. there is enuff digital garbage around which brought us recession, 9/11 planehuggers, obamahuggers and other Orwellian braindead peeps. And now they whine for false authority and closetCensorship ***again** ; [http://friendfeed.com/rooms... ]
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Friendfeed is NOT authority free. It has not been since day one by promoting the best of the day, week and month and also by promoting some users, me included, some of which are not even using it, like Mike Arrington (he just automatically posts to Twitter that posts to FF). That does not make FF a bad service, on the contrary, it is great.
- Loic Le Meur
Information as pornography. No filler. No idle conversation. Just get right to the sex scenes.
- Michael Markman
*sigh*
- Hilary Talbot
Jeff Jarvis piece "Attention + Influence Do Not Equal Authority" http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008... is fantastic!
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Agreed. Right on. I can't wait until both Jeff Jarvis and @timoreilly get into friendfeed. That's where the real filtering is going on.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, fully agreed!
- Jeroen De Miranda
@Scobleizer I'm with you on dumbness of ranking tweet search by number of followers. It's a naive understanding of pagerank.
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Yeah, pagerank only applies to individual posts anyway and is very active and very granular. People have to link to my post to get it listed into Google.
- Robert Scoble
I'll happily take the minority view, which is that it would still be useful. As useful as PageRank? No. But it would nonetheless be a useful way to slice/dice tweets. But I also know what it would lead to (twitter follower spam, then devaluing reciprocal following, then triangular following, etc.), so maybe it's best not to go down that road too soon.
- Matt Cutts
Why not have twitter search be like FriendFeed's search - default is to restrict to Friends rather than Everyone.
- Atul Arora
Great point of view Matt! And again Pagerank is not about links only, it's more "semantic" than most people think. I am against ranking people by #followers. What really matters is what gathers us. that's not poetry, that's really "codable". Think APML for eg.
- directeur
Matt, number of followers is a terrible metric. What's the context? If I look for science types on Twitter, they are likely to have very few followers, especially the really useful ones. There has to be some normalization. Perhaps in the context of your friends tree
- Deepak Singh
Organizing Twitter Search by Authority is the wrong attribute. Instead, focus search by your OWN social connections. People you actually know score higher relevancy. http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
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Seems like none of the big players have worked out what 'Personal Relevancy' is yet *sigh*
- Chris Saad
Chris, I keep on "yelling". No one listens :(
- directeur
But I have the cure for it and will publish it very soon! :)
- directeur
I like this approach. I have about 20 social media thought leaders and users that I think are authorities on the topic. I listen, learn and converse with them. I use my own crap-o-meter to decide what matters and what doesn't. I find FF the best listening post for these yahoos too. =) Three of them are involved in this conversation. That suggests that this is a signal and not noise.
- B2B Specialist
Jeremiah -- brilliant!!
- Dave Winer
Expand to your friends then their friends. Number of followers is not an indication of quality and creates the wrong incentives.
- Dave Winer
Absolutely - searching within your social graph is much more important than by follower numbers - there are plenty of search terms that'd simply return twitterfeed tweets and so forth...
- Kristian Dye
I'm wondering whether number of comments is overrated too. To me a lot of comments can mean even more stuff to read. I'm looking for quality conversations in order to solve a problem, gain insight into something. A quality exchange if you will.
- B2B Specialist
This is a good idea. Whilst many highly-followed twitterers are authoritative (O'Reilly, Scoble) many of them are egocentric air heads. The only problem is that you would only get results from within the subset of people you already follow. Many relevant hits would be missed.
- David Semeria
Number of followers as measure of "authority"? Call it something else, but not "authority." Case in point: Scoble has 45k followers, Jonathan Zittrain, 1k. On some issues, one's more authoritative; on others, the other one is.
- Tom Guarriello
A new feature or defined use for "Liking" could be that "I'm following/participating in an interesting conversation". Right now "Liking" is ambiguous.
- B2B Specialist
I find Loic's suggestion really offensive -- that there is an ellite upper class of Twitter users. Feh. The really great ones haven't shown up yet.
- Dave Winer
I already separate twitterers into groupings of authority. How? Friendfeed's lists.Friendfeed lets me search just my list too. Imagine it would present search result from your lists first.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Dave Winer. Number of followers is a useless metric.
- Robert Scoble
Search based on trust within your own network is a great idea, and far more useful. Though in defense of Loic, he's looking at a different function / use case. When you want to limit your search to ideas that are spreading fast, your network isn't necessarily as relevant as the people with the most followers. http://www.loiclemeur.com/english... I'd rather see search by trusted sources, rather than popular sources.
- Salim Virani
Salim: I want to be able to do this search: "show me items that contain 'obama' but only display items that have three or more likes and two or more comments." I guarantee you that such a search would be more useful than arranging by how many followers you have.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I don't support the original post. But when we talk about more replies or more likes, will the person who has 10000 followers get more replies or the one with 1000 followers get more? Please help me understand that point :)
- Ramkarthik
Robert: Absolutely. I think faves and comments show both trust in an opinion, and likeliness of the conversation to spread. That's much better than # of followers. Your suggestion would better suit Loic's need to see what's trending fast at Le Web. Searching your own network on these factors would tell you what's trusted by your own sources, and which opinions are more relevant to you. Jeremiah's suggestion combined with yours would be immensely useful! Anyone want to build it with me? ;)
- Salim Virani
Ramkarthik: look at friendfeed. Lots of things here get lots of likes. If you were right only my items would get lots of likes.
- Robert Scoble
Jerremiah would you rather spend the large amount of hours Scoble spends doing it by hand?
- Fred Grott
Robert: That is true. But when comparing the number of likes, yours would be at least 5x more than an average FF user's right? It would mean that anyway your result would come first when arranged according to number of likes. But surely number of likes is 10 times better than going by the number of followers.
- Ramkarthik
Ramkarthik: huh? Look at "Best of day" today. That gives you a good idea of how things would rank. Sometimes my items are at top, but most of the time not.
- Robert Scoble
I do love how 1 person wanting it managed a post on Techcrunch, and about 10 people talking against it will give off nothing there :)
- Tyler (Chacha)
I just wrote a blog post about this. http://bit.ly/2EQPfT
- Dave Winer
Chacha, I wouldn't be so sure about that. :-)
- Dave Winer
Robert: True :) You win :) I saw the "best of day" and found none from yours (for today. I saw few yesterday). Seems your idea is the best and only do-able plan till now.
- Ramkarthik
a bad solution to a problem that doesn't exist
- Adam Ostrow
Authority doesn't mean popularity or notoriety. It's also not always about who you personally know, though that can help in some things. This is where tagging (e.g. - FriendFeed lists) would be helpful. Subject tags would be useful. I'd also be interested in a strength of connection measure. Could be as easy as 1 to 10, one being one-time drive-by conversation and 10 being your BFF.
- AJ Kohn
Salim: tagging is a really cool idea. Peoplebrowsr.com has that already.
- Robert Scoble
I've been asking for tagging in FF for awhile...would be very powerful for search, list mgmt. and data organization
- Susan Beebe
Susan, I'm inviting you to a "private" room - please read the description :)
- directeur
Tagging would be good. It may be interesting to see what someone would tag a conversation/content with. One may tag this "authentic search" and one may tag it "scoble conversations". What may happen over time is we may see how "the majority" end up tagging or classifying the conversation/content. Maybe a natural folksonomy will emerge. To me that is interesting to see how we socially establish some degree of organization to these random, and sometimes, really good conversations.
- B2B Specialist
Windows 7 Beta Review - http://www.winsupersite.com/win7...
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Good article, I'm looking forward to Win7, but I'm sort of puzzled by the removal of apps from the default build. Do you think it might be some sort of preemptive defense against legal issues?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
meh. he thinks users will be horribly, horribly confused by taskbar mixing non-running app icons with running app icons. he says mixing the two is "a whopper of a mistake" and will, quote, "actively harm" most users. actively harm? like put someone's eye out? of course if you do the exact same thing (mix running & nonrunning app icons) and call it the "OS X Dock," it's no doubt an intuitive work of staggering GENIUS!!!
- Karim
also he thinks users will be confused by Libraries, despite the existence of "Smart Playlists" in iTunes, "Search Folders" in Outlook, etc. though he doesn't say that it will Actively Harm™ them in this case.
- Karim
After using the earlier build, the taskbar definitely takes some getting used to so I would agree that the new interface is a bit clunky. As long as they can increase security and performance I think they will be ok.
- Brandon Titus
i personally would consider "clunky" separate from "takes some getting used to," though the difference is clearly subjective. some of the time it just sounds like the reviewer is freaking out because something is *different* (not better or worse, just different) and then projecting their own unease onto the rest of the population. the review ends up describing the author's resistance to change instead of a describing the usability of a product.
- Karim
Karim for some reason I find your sarcasm especially sharp today!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
lol thanks... though that probably means i should tone it down a bit ;-)
- Karim
'Tis sadly true... not many people can breathe at my level of sarcasm tolerance...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Breaking photographic rules. You know not to shoot toward the sun, right? Here's why you should: - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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If I were a good photographer and could write for the Digital Photography School blog (one of my favorite blogs about photography, it's at http://digital-photography-school.com/blog... ) I would write a post about breaking the rules. For one, people tell you all the time never to shoot toward the sun. I find that to be a stupid rule that's worth breaking once in a while. Why? It creates dramatic lighting effects that are second to none. Look at how the patterns in the sand are highlighted by shooting directly into the reflections made by the sun. Most people don't think of doing this, because it hurts your eyes to look at it, and exposing this isn't easy (even here, I should have made it a little darker).
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
That's a sand dune? Wow! Looks like the top of a milkshake with raisins. Not sure I could ever become that good of a photographer, but I will keep trying.
- MarkCarras
I love to take photos at the sun, pulls in unique colors, lighting and shadows, especially through trees! My Flickr stream is full of in-your-face-sun-shots!
- Susan Beebe
Mark: it's not a dune, it's the beach where the water washes over the sand. I love the patterns it makes when the water drains away. One danger? Watch for the next wave or you'll get wet! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Another image, done right into the sun's reflections: http://www.flickr.com/photos... I love how sharp the Canon 100mm F2.8 macro is. I wish I had the 5D MKII -- someday!
- Robert Scoble
Just don't catch the sun directly cause you might do this to your imager (http://www.vimeo.com/2637713). Lens caps are not just for dust any more.
- Joel Ordesky
I took a series like this on my last couple of trips to the beach. The key is to wait until the sun is very low in the sky and you can pick up the shadows and golden reflections from the sand and water. Beautiful photo.
- Karoli
Looks magical! :D
- Michael Forian
You're right but you need great gear, take a look http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Vincenzo Cosenza
vincenzo: nice photo!
- Robert Scoble
Same as a few above, it's great to take photos towards the Sun. I started without a rule book and, to be fair, that was probably a good thing. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Joel, I destroyed a perfectly good camera after setting it up to take a sequence of sunset shots :(
- Nicola Quinn
whats that on the wierd kool pic
- Jasmine
What I Learned This Year - http://gigaom.com/2008...
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Om, thanks for being such an important part of my life. Here's hoping to more lessons learned in 2009!
- Robert Scoble
Excellent post. Om, I don't know you and we've never spoken, but based on your list, I hope we'll have the chance to connect. Very healthy stuff, physically and on all levels.
- Michael Krigsman
Thanks Robert appreciate the kind words.
- Om Malik
Michael we have connected now. Hope sometime in person.
- Om Malik
Great post, thanks
- Svein Håvard Djupvik
Om: very nice, will look forward to it.
- Michael Krigsman
A NEW Twitter client that is not based on Adobe AIR and with some INTERESTING features: http://www.twittastic.net/
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feedback? any good?
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
not in air. that already makes it better than the rest of those apps.
- Nicole Simon
not in air. that already makes it worse than the rest of those apps.
- Daniel Bruce
I've tried to install it couple days ago, but it's getting stuck in the .NET Framework 3.5 installation.
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir: same here. Oh well.
- Robert Scoble
Thats why I like Adobe Air. Very Simple Installation
- Tyler (Chacha)
not in air (at least it says .net and win on site0
- Naor Mark
Robert: It was developed by Jeff Pulver's friend, I'm sure it will work eventually. From what i've seen, it has some cool features.
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir, who's the friend? Israeli?
- Orli Yakuel
Orli: this is the guy: http://twitter.com/KCorax (from Greece).
- Nir Ben Yona
Trying this out.
- Michael Krigsman
What's wrong with adobe air apps?
- Alex von Halem
from twhirl
yeah, it's stuck. can't finish the download.
- Orli Yakuel
Alex, nothing actually. I was just trying to find an alternative.
- Orli Yakuel
Nir, it's lovely to see this one's coming from Greece (though it's not working for me)
- Orli Yakuel
Orli: Agreed. I'm glad to see more and more initiatives coming from Europe.
- Nir Ben Yona
.net is a 231MB download. It needs to be installed first, if not already on your system. Then you should go to the "Download" link for a first-time installation or to the "Update" link for updates. Hope this helps.
- Alexandros Georgiadis
HI there, I'm not on windows, so I cannot express an opinion about .net (as far as I know though, it finally takes 60GB on your disk), but I can say that adobe air truly sucks :)
- George Tziralis
That said, George Kasselakis (@kcorax in twitter) is very very responsive, try asking him anything you want (and, yes, the client is a one-man project)
- George Tziralis
air installations can be very complicated, as I found whne I had a problem with twhirl once, I'll give this a try.
- Richard Lawler
Completed the install, but the installer definitely needs some work and better testing. (Vista x64, 8GB RAM, up to date everything.)
- Michael Krigsman
and this: http://twitter.com/KCorax...
- Orli Yakuel
People, thanks for bearing. If you have trouble with the chained .net installation, you can get it separately using the last button on the right at www.twittastic.net . It's huge, but it's terribly more responsive as an installation process. Out of the installer only 60mb actually remains on your disk, so don't freak out. I'll be using the reduced .net profile in the future (26mb) so this won't be an issue.
- Georgios Kasselakis
First impressions: very nice UI that it's easier to read than Twhirl. However, screen redraws and updates are not handled properly. Since I don't have that problem with other AIR apps, I assume this is programming issue and not a function of the underlying AIR platform. Some of Windows sidebar apps have stopped working -- not sure if this is a byproduct of installing the app or not. What a pain in the ass.
- Michael Krigsman
Easier to read than Twhirl... hmmm.... Ok, I'm downloading
- Tyler (Chacha)
@ Michael Did you get the Revision 87 ? I released it about 10 minutes ago. Restart your Twittastic to get it. Remember also it's essentially an alpha, performance will be improved a lot.
- Georgios Kasselakis
Georgios: I rebooted and sidebar works, so something was up with the app and got reset upon reboot. I cant tell where in the app to find the ver number. So I have no idea which ver I'm using. Also, you can't expect users to update ever 10 min. If the app isn't ready, then just test it some more and delay releasing the build for another couple of hours or day. Instant release speed is less important than a solid build. Also, when I restarted app, it asked for my credentials again, so didn't save them.
- Michael Krigsman
@ Michael The settings not relevant to the network on sight (Twitter in this case) are on the tray icon > right click > settings. I feel for your pain, but the description of the application's state is 'bleeder' this didn't come without warning. Unfortunately testing on local machines can only go some distance, while I haven't had a crash or problem on any of my machines, I'm still surprised by the diversity of problems that occur in a diverse user base. In any way I'm sorry if this caused you stress.
- Georgios Kasselakis
would like to try it, but can't get it to install without errors
- Brian Tiede
Georgios: No stress here, just the usual rantings when looking at new software and making evaluations. Yes, using ver 87. Part of the problem definitely seems to be slow redraws - not sure what you can do about that, but there's something wrong with the screen updating.
- Michael Krigsman
Anyone know if this supports multiple simultaneous logins, like Twhirl..?
- Jules
First look at Windows 7 beta 1 Windows 7 beta 1 (build 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400) - http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardwar...
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Echo Chamber Fail for Twitter With Authority-Based Search: Let Them Eat Cake! - http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008...
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Loic's idea is a big FAIL. There are so many more ways to show authority.
- Robert Scoble
semantic Web? Just asking...
- Valeria Maltoni
Valeria - thats what i thought. But its still asking a lot. See here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Roberto Bonini
And Scoble, thats a great idea of use retweets. It would still require Twitter to implement that as a feature per se instead having RT as an informal thing.
- Roberto Bonini
authority is a pretty weird term to use in this context. In terms of academic literature works of authority aren't necessarily those that are popular, but rather those that are important or groundbreaking. If we used that kind of a metric to measure 'authority' in music the Backstreet Boys are more important than Led Zeppelin.
- Kristian Dye
How to write a Mike Arrington blog post - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008...
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Gillmor nailed Arrington here. "Control Scoble," yeah, it's all about that. I'm glad Arrington hasn't figured out what I'm up to yet. I hope he keeps thinking I'm addicted. He should speak, though. Poor guy always is up at 2 a.m. blogging.
- Robert Scoble
How did I know this wasn't going to be critical.
- Shawn Farner
It's hysterical! No need to be critical; laughter is a far better option.
- Karoli
Windows 7 Beta Screenshots - http://www.winsupersite.com/win7...
Semantic Web Patterns: A Guide to Semantic Technologies http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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