The Great Google Wave invite thread. Anyone who wants an invite post your Gmail address here and anyone who has invites available please use to invite the people on this list. There are also a bunch of requests in the Invites group here: http://friendfeed.com/invites
I have a few but holding them for a few people who have already asked me. I'm at kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com btw. A pain I know but if you can, could you update your comment when you have an account or just delete your comment. Ta! :-) EDIT: Try this site for invites: http://googlewaveinvites.com/
- Kol Tregaskes
Are people on this list getting invites or at least been told they have an invite on the way? You might have to be patient, it could take a long time for one to come through.
- Kol Tregaskes
Adam, yep agree. Maybe because I did that (month ago though) helped me get mine through from Vijay so quickly!
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol, the invitation process seems to be based on nominations. For example, everytime someone nominates/invites you, you get bumped up the queue for an account until you're at the top and you get sent an invite by the team
- Ysabel Legaspi
Ysabel, ah I see, So lots of people must have nominated me. Darn, so a few users I have nominated could be waiting a looooong time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
if that voting system is right I'm very annoyed. I asked for an invite months ago, now all the numpties are all over it I'm not going to get a look in. It's like I've been sat at the front of a shop queue and everyone's just walking right past me into the shop. I am British but I detest both queuing and waiting, so this is pretty tough going
- Toby Graham
Like most other people, yesterday I wasn't aware of that I «needed» a Google Wave invitation this badly...but now I am!!! quackofdawn at gmail dot com
- Quackofdawn
Please I want a invite :( jesi.nieves at gmail
- Jesi
from iPod
neternity@gmail.com and i promise to send a wave of 100,901 twitter followers to your doorstep each of whom will have averaged 1 tweet in their existence - this might not get me an invite but surely it will get some notice - must have that something special - my google wave invite special sauce ingredient is twitter juice PS Not to be construed as an offer, not valid in any of the 53 US states, do not try this at home, caution: contents are hot.
- Ross Button
Anyone have already a wave invite?. I'm a developers anxious to take a look at wave. jmiguel.rodriguez at gmail.com . Thank you very much in advanced!
- jmiguel rodriguez
trentono gmail com...thanks in advance, mysterious stranger...
- Trent Olson
lol at this point i gotta think that by the time an invite makes it this far down the list i may already be at the top of the official invite list but doesn't hurt to try right? marco [dot] nunez @ gmail - thanks!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I'm also trying. As Marco said, it doesn't hurt :) iamclem at gmail. thanks!
- Clément Simon
Hello, I would love to have a google wave invite too. ilteris@gmail.com thanks!
- ilteris
Oops! You said gmail address: marybaumcreative (at) gmail. Although I run marybaum@marybaum.com through gmail servers too.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from email
louisrbourque@gmail.com - an invite would be greatly appreciated, and I'll pass it on! Thanks
- Louis Bourque
from iPod
can you send me invite for google wave to i.igors (at) gmail (dot) com
- Igor Krstev
If any kind soul has an invite to spare, it would be gratefully received and shared on once GOOG get around to inviting me in. :-) The key piece of information belatedly being andy.bold@gmail.com kthxbai
- Andy Bold
Looking for one myself at alexscrivener (at) gmail (dot) com
- Alex Scrivener
I'd love an invite. I was sort of expecting to get one from Google, as I have been in all of their other betas, but to no avail :( carlton.prest@gmail.com
- Carlton Prest
Plesae send an invite! jwatson820@gmail.com
- Jonna Watson
damn, the pretty please guy will get one for sure, that steve guy @hotmail.com is likely last on the list - but we all will get one if that scobilizer guy notices that we are all here and asking and so cul cuz we are all on friendfeed - maybe if we twitter too it might help - hello google !!!!
- Ross Button
how do we know which ones are sent? I'm just doing my own thread.
- Raphael, Raphael
I've been too busy to get on FF the last few days....figures something important happening and I missed it! I knew about Google Wave but didn't know there would be a thread to post a request. In any case, better late than never, I'd love an invite at madeliene2007 at gmail.com. :)
- Bonnie Foster
I've been on Twitter all day trying to get one, I'd love it if my day can end by me finally getting an invitation :) I'll be sure to send some invites to other people in this thread! andryou@gmail.com
- andryou
re.renus@gmail.com somebody please send me a invitation... ^_^ : )
- Emad
wimmulder@gmail.com. Am really excited to try this out for a collaborative research project I'm working on. Hoping someone has an invite to spare!
- Wim Mulder
giuliocc@gmail.com . Keen to see if we can shake M$'s cage about messaging and collaboration.
- Giulio Campobassi
Would love an invite - jonathonc at gmail.com
- Jonathon
VitaArdiyana (at) gmail (dot) com, Thanks before Kol. I will delete my comment when i have my google wave account.
- Vimala Vita
Just digging into the comments now but let me begin by saying that you did an incredible job with this thread Kol, 473 (474 after I post) comments!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Google Wave : Could anyone invite me ? : jean.charles.blondeau[at]gmail.com Thanks
- Jean-Charles
System Messages Invite Status: 17559 invite requests in the system. 7 invites confirmed as received by requester. 199 invites claimed as sent from giver.
- oliv21
How does anyone know if someone has already been invited? You could go back and edit your comment when you receive an invitation, but since that takes days, it could be ages before you know.
- marziah
I've not even had a nomination, RK. At google dot com I'm suezanne , in the event anyone wants to make a nomination. I've asked before on friendfeed. It's kind of humiliating to beg.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
i have decided that if i do indeed get an invite, i will decline, forward my gmail account to windows live and put ie back as my default browser and i will bing it
- Ross Button
@Ross: why punish yourself for something you didn't do? :)
- François Dongier
I just want some google love; just like the rest of us do; but n,o they wave at us as they have their private, invite only party; thumb to nose, fingers a waving - that's the google wave; we need a tshirt
- Ross Button
al86shaw@gmail.com :) Not expecting anything, but thanks anyway!
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Send to me plz ,,, mxina.com {a} gmail {dot} com
- Mohammad Sharifi
Has anyone received their invite? I haven't yet.
- Rodrigo
from email
I'd love an invite to Google Wave pls. non-geeky bf got one before me! that's just not cricket.. hehe :) icetigerza (at) gmail
- Kim
Hello, if there's any invite left, you'll make me more than happy ;-) matthieu.beauval [at] gmail [dot] com, thank you !
- matthieu beauval
If there are still invites left daryl@learnscape.com.au
- Daryl Hunt on FF
Of all the people posting here the chances of me getting an invite are slim but I'm still willing to try. If someone wants to shoot an invite over to jcallahan126@gmail.com I'd REALLY appreciate it.
- John
from iPhone
Aww Did I miss the Wave of invites? Come on Kol... Hook me up! :)
- Walt Ruppar
It looks like it, although you might be able to use the hyperlink on the front of the Wave homepage to request an invitation, if it's still available.
- Tyson Key
Google Wave Anybody? I needz one plz... walt {dot} ruppar {at} gmail [dot] com
- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
I'll give this a try: j.linkola at gmail - anyone have invites left?
- Jussi Linkola
Anyone can provide a Google Wave invite? bmtrocks@gmail.com
- Brian
Hi guys I realy Waiting impatiently, but still have no invite... can anybody sent me invite please please simplisityzehra@gmail.com thanks in advance
- Zehra
firatdemirel at gmail.com just needs an invite for Gwave. Thanks.
- Fırat DEMİREL
Does anyone have an invite to share? Can you send it to v9y.rec at gmail.com please? Thanks.
- Vinay | विनय
Can somebody send an ivitation to terror@gmail.com . Thanks in advance.
- Yiğit
Please send an invitation to me at trivedi.knz@gmail.com. I got tired waiting.
- Kandarp Trivedi
I'll be glad to invite others on this thread once I get mine. Thanks in advance.. Keep the thread alive.
- Kandarp Trivedi
rodgerdb@gmail.com ha oh man am I late to this thread =( Here's to hoping!
- Rodger Ballard
really need one, would be so grateful thacker90184@gmail.com
- brandon
I want Google Wave invite too, please sent it to: ric4p5 {at} gmail [dot] com Thanks
- jose manuel
If anyone has invites, could I have one please? tekked - gmail.com
- TechKid
allanbesselink<at>gmail<dot>com ... please!
- Allan Besselink
I'll wager that some of the folks on this list have received their invite by now, or no longer want one - I have 16 invitations at this instant. It's probably easier for me if you DM.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
fifiquimbo(at)gmail(dot)com. I would love one, thanks!
- Fifi Quimbo
I have 8 invites to Google Wave, if someone is interested, please DM with e-mail address. Ciao, Andrea
- Andrea Romoli
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- tveskov
Not happy with Mozy right now. I had more than 250GB of stuff backed up that suddenly seems to have gone *poof*. It took months to get all that uploaded... Waiting to hear back from their CS people but if the answer is "sorry your data will have to be uploaded again" I'm finding another service that's more reliable.
@Thparqui - you haven't seen my history of searching for a good backup service. I've already got an Amazon S3 account but can't afford to back up the 450GB worth of stuff I need to backup on it. I currently have about 150GB worth of stuff up there and it's all I can budget. I chose Mozy after a LOT of research and debate because it was the most affordable option even though I can't do stuff like access my files easily or share them with people like you can on S3.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
How much is your data really worth to you? My data is my life - I'll gladly pay the $40 a month for that much on S3 to be 100% confident in it's stability.
- Sparky
It's worth a lot to me, but $5/mo seemed like a much more reasonable deal. And I had heard good things about Mozy.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I don't trust ANY provider for my data that is still in startup mode. They could go out of business at a moments notice, and don't have the 10+ year business track record Amazon has, nor do they have Amazon's deep coffers for weathering bad times for web services.
- Sparky
Why not just get a couple external drives if you are backing up that much?
- Geoff Schultz
@Geoff Because 1) I want something offsite 2) I want something super redundant 3) I want something daily and 4) I want something automatic. I don't have time to be constantly switching out drives and I don't trust harddrives anyway. I don't have time to be ferrying a drive to a safe deposit box somewhere and I want access to my files wherever I happen to be (what If I'm traveling and...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@Sean The cloud thing doesn't bother me... never has. I like the cloud. I don't trust MYSELF to keep physical backups.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I have 2.5Tb on my home server. At least 1Tb of that needs backing up. S3 et al are all too expensive :)
- Roberto Bonini
@Thparqui - I agree with you about Amazon and that's why I have the 150GB there. That the "most important" stuff... The rest of it is important too... I am gambling that if Mozy died it wouldn't happen at the same time my harddrive would croak. But I'm not willing to pay Mozy if my data just poofs off their servers with no notice or explanation. $40/mo is a lot of money for the S3 alternative though. Sigh.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I dont mind the cloud either but uploading 250+ gigs is kind of impractical at 1mbps or whatever you got. Unless you are on like FiOS or something.
- Geoff Schultz
@Geoff - no kidding... it took months... That's why I'm so upset that my data has vanished all the sudden. That's a large investment of my time and bandwidth.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@Roberto i rather backup my stuff myself. home server + external hard drives is how i would do it.
- Alfredo
@Alfredo - what do you do if you have a house fire... what if you aren't home to grab your drives? Would you risk your life to grab them if you were?
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
no i would not risk my life to grab them.
- Alfredo
Hehe, thats why I suggested multiple externals. One goes either in the safe or to a relatives house :)
- Geoff Schultz
Yeah, but depending on how often you do that you'll still lose lots of stuff. And, again, I simply don't have time to chauffeur my harddrives around... Especially to my closest relatives... visits eat up too much time.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Windows Home Server is all Redundant Storage. Photos to keep are on Smugmug. But I need to find somthing for everything else. I'm not risking my life to grab the drives :)
- Roberto Bonini
How much space do you get on Smugmug and would they let you store Photoshop files? I use Flickr but can't upload the Photoshop Files... and I'm afraid they're going to go down the tubes soon anyway. Also they don't let me upload the full resolution images and resize them so I don't think of them as a permanent storage solution for my images.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I'm with Linsay; while a local hard drive copy of your stuff is good to have, it is by no means a complete solution. You have to have offsite backup. Period. This is not debatable. And using cloud services makes this much more likely to happen than if you are trying to ferry around physical devices manually -- sooner or later the routine is going to break down. And even if you are good...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
I currently use iDrive. I get 150GB for me, and 150GB for my wife for under $10 a month. Automatic. It worked fine so far.
- Ian May
Oh I understand your concerns, I just have 900 gigs of video and can't even imagine uploading that hehe.
- Geoff Schultz
Well, Geoff, look at how bandwidth has been increasing and storage fees dropping over time. It won't be all that long before storing terabytes in the cloud is no more difficult than storing a couple hundred gigabytes is today...
- Christopher A. Wichura
Yeah, it sucks, Geoff... it used to be that the main barrier to producing lots of files was physical harddrive space. Now harddrives are cheap but online storage has not come down in price with them so now the barrier is the cost of actually backing up your data securely... I hate having to pick and choose what's important to me or not and back it up simply because it's too expensive.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Carbonite? I like them. The only thing I don't like about Carbonite is that it doesn't support USB devices yet.
- Tamar Weinberg
@Tamar - guess it wouldn't work for me... my storage drives are all USB (my main computer is a laptop). Also I always had a bad vibe on Carbonite for some reason...
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Yeah that was my next question. I wouldn't have a bad vibe about them, though. I had them on 2 computers for a year and then when I ported everything to USB drives, I let my subscription die. I'll be back on track with them once they announce USB device support.
- Tamar Weinberg
Lindsay: Check out Backblaze - https://www.backblaze.com/ It was started by a bunch of ex Apple people and it is really evident in the clean UI and manner in which it just works. I love the service - been using for about 4 months.
- Mike Bracco
@Lindsay: Not sure what type of stuff you are backing up (you did mention Photoshop files, though). For me, most of what I back up is photos. My approach is to back up the original RAW files and maybe a handful of Photoshop files that represented a large amount of post work for specific images. Otherwise, I figure if I have to re-do any post work in the future and am doing a restore,...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
@Mike - I had evaluated Backblaze and almost chose it over Mozy. It was a pretty close race. I went with Mozy because I liked their UI better and I had been aware of them longer. But I might go with Backblaze if Mozy doesn't fix my issue.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Another vote for Jungledisk & Amazon S3.
- Tom Hoover
from iPhone
Smugmug will stick all your psds RAW files, etc on S3 for you. And tie them all together with the finished photos in the gallery. Kinda like a workflow thing.
- Roberto Bonini
@Christoper - I have been lazy and not really gotten into RAW yet (I know, I should... but those take up even MORE room than my big JPEG originals). Most of the stuff I'm backing up is photos and Photoshop edits, yes, but some of it is downloads of licensed software that I may not have access to later, also I'm a developer so I have old code projects, Subversion repositories and other...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
To be more specific, these days I use a Mac for photo editing. I import stuff into Aperture with library on the laptop's internal drive. My local backup is the Aperture vault on a Drobo. When done with a project, I then export the project to a separate directory structure on the Drobo where JungleDisk's backup is configured to pick things up and automatically store it on S3. So I am...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
@JA Ahh, so it's basically the same as Amazon S3... I would probably rather just directly use my account then.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@Christoper - I actually use Super Flexible File Synchronizer instead of JungleDisk. I've used JungleDisk before when it was free but SFFS is a one time cost vs the subscription and it really is flexible (I can use it to schedule jobs to stuff other than S3).
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@Lindsay - at least it gives you the opportunity to use SmugMug as a sharing site. I have no real back-up system other than external drives, so I am interested in what comes of this (I remember your initial thread about back-up choices; a doozy!). Just had a 320 GB drive tank w/ all my video files on it. A cloud solution looks likely for me as well.
- JA Castillo
JungleDisk is a one time cost, too... The subscription model they introduced is not mandatory. JD was $20 one time for me and I use it from four different machines all to access my same S3 account. (Since they license it by S3 account, not by seat.)
- Christopher A. Wichura
On-line could be more off-site safe, but small portable drives are cheaper & cheaper. Just saw 250 GB drives for $60 at Wal-Mart. I have three backup hard drives in Ohio & one 500 GB pocket drive which I travel with (I have older 20 GB & 120 GB pocket drives which I no longer use). Pricewatch http://pricewatch.com/browse... shows pocket 500 GB drives at...
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- Mitchell Tsai
Along the lines of backup redundancy, I've been hit by lightning while on a computer (which fried both the computer & the floppy disk in the computer so badly it was unformatable), and used to run backups for UCLA CS many years. Backup media often fail. An expert at Harvard (with zillions of Fortune 500 clients) recommends at least a four-copy solution (with one off-site). Why? Your...
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- Mitchell Tsai
At UCLA, when restoring from backup media...I'd say about 10% of the time, the tape backup media copy was damaged. So when restoring files from this week's backup, I might have to grab a few files from last weeks' backup, because this week's backup was damaged. I have had dropout problems when restoring from my backup hard drives, so I have lost a few pictures (which may or may not be on my other backup drives, haven't bothered to search through all my backups for the damaged files).
- Mitchell Tsai
I'd say a hard drive tends to break down about once/5-10 years. When managing tons of hard drives, they are always breaking down. But with my own personal computers, I've had two die in 23 years. This doesn't count minor drops and lost data due to bad sectors.
- Mitchell Tsai
Mozy slowed my computer down too much, so i canceled.
- Mike Reynolds
Lindsay I got this reply to my Liked Tweet http://twitter.com/devinkn... from Davinknighton (davin@mozy.com) email him and he will sort your mozy issue for you. it seems they keep 30 days retention backup. so hopefully your file are still recoverable. Good luck
- zsafwan
Hey, I work for Mozy. Email me at nate@mozy.com with your Mozy account email and we'll get you taken care of.
- Nate Kartchner
@Mitchell One nice thing about S3 is it is built around the assumption of cheap hardware that will fail. They mirror your data, and between east and west coast data centers, to boot.
- Christopher A. Wichura
Used to use Mozy, switched to Carbonite-sooo much better. Don't even know it's there.
- Bret Rowe
So far, for me, S3 + Jungledisk has been awesome. But as my backed up data grows, so does the price....
- Anthony Citrano
That's the problem with S3- Cost. It's the fairest pricing structure possible. But grows quickly. If they can charge by the terabyte at some point, it would go along way for individuals with large amounts of data to back up.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
I don't see it as a “problem”, per se, Roberto. As you say, it's fair.
- Anthony Citrano
I left Mozy to run while I went on vacation and came back to a process that had apparently stalled less than a day in. TBH I think cloud backup is still very unreliable at this point, and not fast enough for me anyway. I roll my own backup solution via external & portable HDDs.
- LANjackal
@Anthony - I would see S3s pricing structure to be more fair if it reflected the quickly dropping price of the physical drives... Prices per storage of a GB of storage on a physical drive has dropped a lot in the last couple of years, but S3s prices have not dropped proportionally (though I do acknowledge that they have dropped a tiny bit).
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Mozy pulled that crap with me a few months ago and I ditched them for backblaze.
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
Carbonite has worked well for me for over 3 years.
- Tony C
I could never get Mozy to successfully back up 40gb + from my mac, let alone 200gb+ of media. Too slow, made my MPB crash, etc etc. The mac client also was too limited compared to what the windows client allowed in features. Finally had to cancel. I reason that a couple of extra drives +speed will make up for any additional cost incurred.
- Cole Jolley
+1. Just not worth it IMO. Not to mention that at least I can resolve issues with my own my own hardware immediately instead of waiting for Mozy/some other remote provider to deliver a fix
- LANjackal
from IM
No need to be, as long as you have it backed up locally somewhere. The ony reason I got into Mozy was as insurance in case my home got wiped out. I eventually resolved that concern my getting a 320GB portable WD HDD that I took to work with me every day
- LANjackal
from IM
Same here - I have everything backed up on a Drobo at home. It just took me around 1.5 years to upload al our photos to mozy (I only uploaded during the day, when I was at work). I don't want to do this again.
- Oliver Bouchard
from IM
250GB = 3.5 hours upload time for me, not months. I think the problem here is your isp.
- Brandon
@Brandon What kind of connection do you have?! By Amazon's own admission, it would take "80 days to upload just 1TB of data over a T1 connection." According to their claims it would take over 12 days to upload your data over T1.
- Brandon Titus
@Brandon: doing the math, 250GB/(3.5h * 3600 s/h) = 0.02GB/s = 20MBytes/s. In the unlikely event you actually have such a connection, it's not readily available to most people
- LANjackal
Have any of you who have too much data to upload considered sending your drives to Amazon via their "Import/Export" program? It sounds like a cool thing although it's fairly pricey ($80 fee per drive and $2.50 per hour of transfer time). http://aws.typepad.com/aws...
- Brandon Titus
Sounds like the ideal solution, but that's sickeningly expensive
- LANjackal
from IM
Yeah, it's clearly not priced for any kind of small data transfer like this but if someone had some really important data I think it could definitely be valuable. Of course, it's one time backup but it would get you to a point where all future files would be backed up directly. (Still doesn't help the cost of S3).
- Brandon Titus
I don't understand why people are compelled to go with S3 or Rackspace. I mean, the idea is great but when you have 250GB, that's a LOT of money and you're paying monthly. Mozy/Carbonite/similar services aren't like that.
- Tamar Weinberg
I've been using SugarSync for a while now.. fortunately (or unfortunately) I haven't had to test restoring files... if that time comes, I'll be sure to let everyone know how it went. I love their service and features, though. I thought their pricing was slightly higher than I wanted, so right now I am on the freebie version. Eventually, though - when they have an Android client and...
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- Tim Hoeck
Check out crashplan for p2p backup. Buy a hard drive or cheap Linux box and stash it at a friends house. You can prime it locally first to bootstrap yourself. Cost: $0.
- Joe Beda ()
from iPhone
Get in touch with @mozy on Twitter. Worked when I had mozy problems
- Phill Price
from iPhone
Phill, contact with Mozy already happened here on FriendFeed. See earlier comments in this thread.
- Micah Wittman
@LANjackal: I do have such a connection, it is widely available now, you just have to have your isp drop fiber at your location. The price has gone down significantly too. 40Mb/s Down // 20Mb/s Up = $200-$500 a month depending on where you live.
- Brandon
Nate/Lindsay, got an update for us? Is it OK now? :)
- AJ Batac
@Brandon: OK cool, but that's just not doable for most people. I love my internet but I don't have $6K/year to drop on it
- LANjackal
from IM
Any update Lindsey? I will say I am impressed that mozy found you on here to help. I have mozy too and am pleased so far. It did take me 14 days to back up all my stuff but I like it so far.
- Amani
I was just about to buy Mozy but will now give an extra thought
- Martin Liechti
from fftogo
LOL @ Brandon - If I had $200-$500 to drop on my home internet connection none of this would be an issue and I'd be using S3 instead. HAHAHA. Wish I could afford $6K a year just for the convenience of fast internet.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I heard from Nate that he's looking into it and I heard back from the CS dept but it's still up in the air. The CS rep said that the files are still there but it would "take a while for the reassociation to happen". As far as I can tell Mozy is just trying to upload everything again and nothing is going any faster than it did the first time. I replied to the CS rep and asked him how I...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Thparqi - startup? Go out of business? It's EMC.... I think they're safe.....
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
Okay, I have 300 gigs of unbackuped photos, and I'M SHIT SCARED. NOT A SINGLE BACUP - ONE DRIVE GOES KAPUT, AND I'M DEAD!
- Yuvi
Mozy being EMC was one of the points that convinced me to use them. At least they should have access to good storage technology. But if they cannot pull of a reliable software then this doesn't help at all.
- Oliver Bouchard
from IM
With respect to Jungle Disk comments - I would suggest CrashPlan instead: 1)It's less expensive or even free. 2)It allows local backup, offsite to friends, and to their cloud. 3)When using their cloud, they automatically verify your data to insure it's in healthy order. Amazon just lets it rest. 4)You're not charged for bandwidth in or out.. and 5)if you needed it all back asap, they'd ship you a USB drive.
- Matthew Dornquast
Lindsay - let us know the outcome. I'm sure it'll work out. I personally am going to stick w/ Mozy (assuming you have a good outcome:)) as I still trust that EMC is better than some fly by night place that could go out of business w/ my data overnight...
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
@Lindsay - I checked into Backblaze as an alternative to Mozy. You mentioned backing up virtual machines to Mozy, so I'm assuming that Mozy doesn't have a file size limit. Backblaze has a per file limiit of 4GB, so it doesn't appear that it will backup my virtual machines.
- Tom Hoover
CrashPlan has no file size limits or limits to the # of versions or period of time data is retained.
- Matthew Dornquast
Awesome! Let us know if there is anything you don't like.
- Matthew Dornquast
from email
Lindsay, I would love an update on what happens. We just rolled out 1-2 GB per associate that is field assigned, and this makes me very nervous of our decision.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Update @Ken and all - I had a couple more conversations with the Mozy folks and they assured me that my data was still there and would take time to "reassociate" now that the drive is plugged in again. I didn't really believe that because it said that it was trying to back up my entire drive again on the local client and didn't show much progress for days but checking this morning and...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Given they only keep deleted files for 30 days - does that mean you have to keep that drive attached all the time or the backup will be erased? CrashPlan never wipes data and if the drive is removed, it just waits for it to come back.. it does not assume files have been removed.
- Matthew Dornquast
@Matthew - it would cost me close to $40/mo to put my data on CrashPlan's hosted site. I will live with the 30 day limit to save close to $420/yr. And EMC is bigger than CrashPlan so less likely (yes, I acknowledge there is still risk) to go away suddenly. I don't know anyone with a fast enough internet connection to keep USB drives at their house, plus it's a lot to ask for them to...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Why does everyone keep saying Mozy is likely to stay around because it's EMC? EMC loses ground to HP and IBM in the storage arena every quarter. They were once the end-all-be-all in online storage, however they are rapidly becoming a bit player in a commodity space.
- Sparky
Because they're more well known than the OTHER bit players? Perception is everything. Do IBM and HP offer similar services for backup? I'm not aware of them if they do.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Amazon is the only SAAS storage solution that's backed by a large company with other interests. Sure it's expensive, but from a business perspective it's the only player on the market right now that I've got any faith in being around comes 3 years from now. Sure others will survive, but who knows which ones.
- Sparky
And no - IBM and HP offer enterprise storage solutions, but that's what EMC's bread and butter is, and their butter is getting really thing thanks to the IBM and HP offerings. Mozy is their tiny little side project that they *WILL* drop long before their enterprise stuff if the going gets tough.
- Sparky
If that time comes then I will have to bite the bullet and finish uploading the rest of my stuff on S3... But in the mean time I can save a few bucks. I trust Mozy's infrastructure more than players I'm less familiar with.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I'm too paranoid about my data to trust that. What happens if Mozy goes out of business and then a hard drive fails while I'm still uploading to S3? I want a single backup solution for the long term and my data is who I am - it's worth my life to me.
- Sparky
Why would you choose someone that has failed thousands? Google "Mozy Sucks" - there are so many people upset over not being able to restore data, having their deleted data wiped after only 30 days. Amazon has been down for hours at a time. Why not build your own cloud? Buy a 1TB drive, backup to it, move drive to the office/friends house and you've got automatic offsite backup for free...
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- Matthew Dornquast
Did you read my comment above about why I'm not using CrashPlan Matthew? I don't have a bunch of people I can trust to put drives in locations I can get to if my drive dies... plus unless I have 4 or more drives redundantly backing up I don't really feel like I'm covered if it's up to me to provide the hardware and that will cost a lot more than a year's subscription even with Amazon....
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
re>pricing. I agree - CrashPlan is more. But only if you use them as a destination. Create your own cloud and have backup offsite for $0/month. I have over 20 people backing up to my house.. and each of them offered me space at theirs. Since the software is free and doesn't require CrashPlan.com to be in business when I need to restore, its' safer. Better still - ever try and download...
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- Matthew Dornquast
Crashplan is a great concept, however since most people I know have limited internet connections the upload/download of backups would be very throttled. Better to have one end of the equation be in an enterprise datacenter with (in the view of a home internet connection) has limitless bandwidth and capacity.
- Sparky
re>comment - yes sorry - I did miss it. I'm not trying to sell you on CrashPlan so much as ween you off Mozy.
- Matthew Dornquast
I don't have that kind of network and even if I did it's not free as you imply... each drive I would have to buy to provide to the people who'd do that backup costs money too. No one is just going to let me use 400GB+ of space on their own drives for my backup.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@sparky you can backup to the drive, then move drive offsite. Only new "bytes" are sent to destination, so the only bandwidth that's used is the new data you generate.. which is typically really slow over a month.
- Matthew Dornquast
Matthew - that gets REALLY expensive when you have to buy drives in multiple locations...
- Sparky
@sparky why multiple drives? a 1 TB drive can hold about 1.5 TB of backup data after compression and data de-duplication. The drive costs $80. Do you have more than 1.5TB of backup data to backup?
- Matthew Dornquast
Redundancy is important Matthew... one backup drive isn't much protection.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
You guys are scaring me. I've got all my photos in "ONE" poorly ventilated, 24x7 Dektop PC :|
- Yuvi
from IM
Ok - lets take your example of 250GB. We'll buy 2x640GB drives for a total of $120. They'll easily hold 1TB of data each. Total cost for completely redundant backup locally and offsite is $40/year for 3 years. Benefits: 20x faster restore when you need it, complete offsite protection, greater security. Because CrashPlan doesn't trust hardware to actually be working, you'll be notified if the drives fail, drop a block, etc automatically.
- Matthew Dornquast
@Yuvi - dude, at the very least get an external drive so when that computer dies you can plug your data in another box!
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@Matthew, I don't consider redundant any fewer than 4 drives, but again, I don't have 4 people local to me that I trust to actually keep their computers open to my backups 24x7. I can't put it at my mom's or my in-laws because they only connect to the internet when they absolutely have to (they're part of the generation that is convinced that people will hack into their computers if...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I can't afford an external drive even :| I'm so broke - all I have is 'round 2$ with me.
- Yuvi
from IM
@Lindsay, where do you get the figure of 4 drives? Does Mozy state that they have four copies of your data? Since we're talking about your backup, not your main data repository, so as long as the backup doesn't fail at *exactly* the same time as your main repository does, then you have redundancy.
- John Röthlisberger
I'm a fan of CrashPlan (no association to the company) and I back up my laptop to my home server (copy #1) and to the cloud (copy #2) -- so counting the actual data on my laptop, I have 3 copies of everything. I'm covered in case of a fire (the cloud backup), and in case of disk failure on my laptop, I will restore from my local backup at high speed.
- John Röthlisberger
The thread that won't die.. Hi Lindsay - I just wanted to say we've responded to your observations on cost. Today we launched unlimited backup for ALL of your computers for as low as $5/Month. Of course, we're not as big as Mozy, but then again, we've been around longer and have been profitable since 2001. Cheers!
- Matthew Dornquast
lol - perhaps I should read the article... sorry, I was just answering the question! I'm not someone that matters like Oprah!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
While it was a great bit of mainstream exposure for Twitter, I'm not sure Oprah matters like Oprah. 33 days? A shame.
- The Letter M
Twitter (and FriendFeed) are great forms of entertainment, but ultimately for both I find that the flow of stuff is just not enlightening. Do we really need this information or are we just playing around?
- Paul W. Homer
If more of my friends were on FriendFeed, I would in a heartbeat
- Keith Bourgoin
Quite a few. According to Nielsen, "more than 60 percent of U.S. Twitter users fail to return the following month, or in other words, Twitter’s audience retention rate, or the percentage of a given month’s users who come back the following month, is currently about 40 percent. For most of the past 12 months, pre-Oprah, Twitter has languished below 30 percent retention.". http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsen...
- Aviv
Since I really use FF, I don't use twitter directly anymore. I'll soon abandon the twitter service.
- DAL
My mother in law recently said she wanted a twitter acount. So I'm gone
- Martin Liechti
from fftogo
This is funny. I said this to a friend just the other day. The more successful that Twitter becomes, the more likely it is that early adopters like some of us will not want to stick around. We kinda like our peace and quiet or at least a dull roar that we feel we have some influence over. :)
- Sid Burgess
hopefully spammers but I am guessing that is no
- (jeff)isageek
I've left Twitter for identi.ca. Most laconi.ca-based websites are spam-free, and there are a lot of interesting people on identi.ca.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I keep a Twitter presence because a lot of the people I want to communicate with are there. Some days I feel like Twittering a lot; other days I feel more like FFing.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I use FriendFeed more for interacting with people, but Twitter's still got a larger userbase, so it's essential to have a presence there - just like it is on several other social networks
- Nathan Chase
Not abandoning but preparing to lessen the TwitShit by spending more time here and other places that link here.
- Ron Hagenhoff
Ron, you know that in Twitter you have the marvellous ability to *not follow* people? :) Seriously, if you find someone on Twitter is too noisy/spammy/whatever, just don't follow them.
- Ian Betteridge
I've used one, many many years ago. Probably late 80s
- Glenn Slaven
I used a typewriter once when I was fairly young, around the beginning of the nineties. We had a "modern" one and I was curious to see it in action. I made a typo in the first word.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
from Android
You will probably still find them in use today in a lot of law firms.
- Alex Scoble
My dad had one when I was little, and I managed to type a paper or two on it. Nothing major.
- Carlton Hackett
typewriters are still used as backups in case our 486 pc's die at the firehall ..
- johnpiercy
I used one in elementary and Jr high. Some in a work training job that I had with OC County in Jr High.
- CW™
my first two were manuals, my last one was an electric Smith Corona from the early 1970s. the only reason i stopped using it in 1994 was becos a cousin of mine walked off with it one day.
- Joe Silence disconnected
We had a typewriter at home until the early 1990s. I used to type opening paragraphs to the Tolkien-rip off fantasy novel that I never finished on it. My dad may actually still use one in his office on a daily basis even though he has a computer and a printer, too.
- Victor Ganata
We had one of those big green IBM ones that I use to type my assignments out on until about the 90s. Just strange that my nephews (8 and 5) have never, ever seen one or used it.
- Johnny Worthington
from IM
I remember using my dad's when I was six or seven (mid-1980s). And when I worked at a bank, we used one to type up a few forms that had carbon copies in them.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I took a typing class over the summer in '92. That's the first and last time I used a typewriter for any length of time. I took a typing test on a typewriter when I interviewed for a temp agency in late '94. I think that was the last time I ever touched one.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I've used one before. but yea. early 90s
- John Wang
I used a typewriter in the late-80s / early-90s. Parents thought my bro and I (hunt-and-poke typists) would best learn to type and that was in the days of typing class. Even though we needed to learn typing such that we'd type on the computer better.
- Wirehead
My Dad used to type up his tests for his students back in the mid-80's. I used his typewriter a couple of times to type up papers before we got our first computer around 88 or so. I'm 32 now.
- Give 'Em DBizness
When we donated dad's library we also included his beloved Selectric. They sent it back...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I used one until I got decent word processor software for my C-64, around 1989. My sister actually took a word processor to college her first year; second year, it was a PC.
- Ladybug Heather
I took typing in 1989. Never used one again after the class, because I took computers the following semester
- Matthew DeVries
High school typing classes: 1960-63 Best thing I ever did (though I hated it then). I can fly round the keyboard, touch-typing too. Cut-off when I got my first Mac (1984).
- Kate Foy
I'm 24 and I remember using one a lot as a kid... I don't even think I used it to type schoolwork, I just liked typing random stuff on it for fun. Also, when I worked at an elementary school in 2004/2005, we had a word processor in the office that we used frequently.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
I was using one at work in the early 90s. Maybe '92 at the latest.
- CAJ, somewhere else
I've played with one before but never actually used it for anything.
- Andrew Trinh
from IM
The interesting bit is when you try going back to a typewriter from a computer. Messes with your head!
- Kate Foy
Used one and I am 43, but never gone back to try and use one since moved to the computer.
- Lyndon Washington
I'm 43 too and learned on one. Used them half way through college, and then they made us start using WordStar word processor. Dot commands, FTW?!
- Rick Cogley
When I started working at Social Services in 1997 we used ballpoint pens and carbon paper.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I kind of want an old skool mechanical typewriter (Although I have no place to put it) so I can preserve the antiquity as long as possible.
- Wirehead
Although, I think I want a proportional spaced typewriter most of all.
- Wirehead
I have one in my bedroom. Though, it's for fun. All of my work was always done on a computer. The typewriter was for zines or creative projects. I like the click click click.
- joey
Used one regularly until I was 23 or so. I used one infrequently at my last job, some grants are required to be typed but people don't supply e-copies. Madness.
- pea
I used one when I was at college. I was a "secretary" for the undergrad music department. It was a workstudy
- jamar78
I used one as a kid, maybe 3 or 4. It was cool, but huge and not as cool as Nintendo.
- Mike Nayyar
Took typing class first year of high school and used one sporadically in the 60's. Not since though.
- Brian Sullivan
I used one up until 1987 or so when I got a computer with a printer. My mom had an IBM Selectric that she was quite proud of.
- Joey Gibson
1990. My mother had one never used one since.
- M F
I used one in the mid-90's, didn't get far with it. I'm almost 20.
- Jimminy Fuller
I still use one occasionally at my parent's office when they want me to type an envelope up or something.
- ronin
I used one a LOT in the 80's. I just used one two weeks ago as well. It felt very quaint.
- Jeremy Brooks
I took typing 101 in 1969, then took one to USC until 1973.
- Russellreno
I just almost had an argument with my husband over his wanting to give away my old Brother typewriter........just seems wrong not to have one in the house. You know, for ransom notes and stuff.
- suzanne
yep, learned how to type on a typewriter in the early 80s
- Herb Hernandez
from iPhone
I grew up with typewriters (and was hit by lighting while typing on one in my parent's basement). When I started college in 1982, there was only one computer among 40 students in my dorm. By my senior year 1985-86, there were 0.75-1.00 computers/student (helped by the Lisa/Mac release in 1984). In the 1990s at UCLA, we used typewriters occasionally to type on forms, but I left UCLA in 2000 and haven't used a typewriter in about 9 years.
- Mitchell Tsai
I took typing in high school (82-85) and I owned a typewriter while I was in college. I didn't use it much because we got Macs at my college in 85-86. I think that typewriter is still at my parents' house.
- ha3rvey (business time)
One of my friends, Adrienne Su, http://users.dickinson.edu/~sua (now Poet-In-Residence at Dickinson College) went with me to the Harvard Bookstore browsing. I heard a strange music coming from the typewriter area. Adrienne was typing soooo fast and so musically - just dreamy. I've never heard anyone type like that since.
- Mitchell Tsai
Many friends typed papers in college for extra money. My roommate Howard Pollack was typing in the dark one day (on a manual typewriter), when the four of us turned on the lights to se what Howard was typing. He had been typing a transcript of our conversation (script-writing style) in real-time! Me, I never took typing in high school...ended up being a 40 wpm hunt & pecker...
- Mitchell Tsai
I used my mothers as a kid, but I actually bought one for my first wife when she graduated college.
- Ian May
Did in my high school typing classes, but not after that. I'm 32
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I learned to touch type on mechanical typewriters in 1986 at school (no Australia is not a third world country!). Electric typewriters were introduced in 1987. But I have never used a typwriter at work since then.
- Matt G
Used one right up until the end of high school.
- Steven Perez
I played with my grandparent's when I was a kid, but I had computers most of my life.
- Neal Jansons
Typing class, high school. Electric, but an actual typewriter. Yes.
- Micah Wittman
Early 80s - maybe 1982 or 83-ish? We actually had our first office PC hooked up to a typewriter as the printer because the typewriter type looked better than the dot-matrix type. Naturally, once I met the Mac in 1987, I never went back.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
I used my grandparents' one when I was about 8, so 1993.
- Mitch
In the 90s, we dug out the old Olivetti and set it up for our daughter as a toy. She's now 19 and thinks of her MBP pretty much as a body part.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
I actually used to own one and used it in college, until I bought an Osborne computer and Epson RX80 dot matrix printer my senior year. I think I gave my typewriter to my younger sister when she was in college. For some reason I never asked for it back ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
I used to sell them when I worked at Staples. I worked there until 2005ish and still sold them. I used one as a kid too. I'm 31
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I have a '40s-vintage Royal sitting on display in my living room, and I type letters on it from time to time just for the fun of it. It works beautifully, and I find the mechanical feel and sound very satisfying. But then, I'm a bit odd.
- Bren -- Designated Driver
I first learned in high school about office machines and one in particular was the wondrous typewriter, I have not used one in awhile but at the very least I do remember. And really sometimes a simple typewriter can be a great thing, so I have used it but I don't make it a point to use it regularly.
- Rem-Sleep w Ray
I actually did my college thesis on a typewriter (all 120 pages of it) - that experience was what drove me into computers - never looked back since then.
- ian kennedy
I owned a manual typewriter and learned to touch type on it in 7th grade in 1982. My mom may still have it and I don't remember much about it, but I can picture it in my head. It's really fuzzy though, like my memories of Shell Beach, can't put my finger on it...
- Adrian
I learnt to type on a typewriter way back in '67 - one of the best things I ever learnt - srsly - I'm still really young -]
- Chris Loft
I did a typing course at school. The famous Scheidegger typing course. I was 12 or 13 in those days. So that was around '76/'77. It's probably the best thing I learned at school, because I'm still enjoying what I've learned then.
- Ton Zijp
I used to use a typewriter, and I'm 24.
- Will Higgins™
Some involved in air traffic in the 90s still used typewriters.
- Bernie Goldbach
I have, in the 90's I am 31. Also, I believe the high school office where my mother works still has a couple that they use for adding names to certificates and the like. I will double check this with her tomorrow.
- Rachel Lea Fox
I learned how to type on a manual typewriter, but haven't used one since maybe 1986.
- Bonnie Foster
i'm 23, used one briefly when growing up not because we didnt have a computer (had some P1 box and a Mac Centris) but because i liked the cool mechanical sounds it made. ;-)
- Paul Stamatiou
We were taught to use a typewriter at school - that was actually the only time we ever used a typewriter, for most of us, since computers were already taking over (except perhaps for form filling). We had the typewriter class and a computer class the same year, and the typewriter class did not even help for computer typing because it was on the horrible french key-layout whereas our computers had swiss keyboards
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I have. 29 years old now. Last time was probably 2 years ago to label envelopes (I think printers remain bad at this).
- Sajida H Khan
I used one many Moons ago but only because my parents had an old one at home.
- Kol Tregaskes
I had, I'm 26. It was my mother's, she used it at school. But I remember her using it at work in the late 80's too.
- albameccanica - Arianna
I had to type the personal info on my college applications (in 1996) but I got my Mom to help because I was afraid I wouldn't line things up correctly.
- Shannon Jiménez
I learned to type using a typewriter during high school (mid 90's).
- Kevykev
I saw one once & think i tried it, but it was like 15 years ago or so
- immaterial
Yes, up until 1994, I think, I often helped my father type academic papers on our typewriter. I didn't have a computer of my own until early 1996, I believe. Used campus labs from fall of 1995 until about February.
- Scott of Two Countries
I used one up until about 1988. It was an IBM Selectric.
- DGentry
I'm 23 - I have seen them, but never used for anything.
- Rich
I'm 36 and used one. We were tought type writing at school, but that ended in the mid 80's when the school got computers and we had to learn Basic
- Martin Liechti
from fftogo
i used one in jr high and part of high school in the early 80s before i saved up enough to get a printer for my apple ][e
- Imabug
used one till late 90's. I found it kind of cool for "creative writing"... :))
- diego morelli
Wow.. I actually used one in junior high.. I still remember the smell of burning oil! Gee.. that was in the early 80's I think?
- Sean
I used one in high school typing class, circa 85, that I took as an elective to better learn how to type on the computer keyboards I had for the 4 years previous. My dad used typewriters in his small business until about 89-ish when he switched over to the wordprocessing unit he had used at home for year or so prior. Actually slow for him given he had car phones when they were huge radio units, a pocket TRS-80 in the early 80s ( http://www.trs-80.com/wordpre... ), and such.
- Michael W. May
i took it in high school around 1990. that was probably the last time i did
- (jeff)isageek
I learned to type on one when i was 11 or so, which was in 1996. It was a very modern one, as it could store documents typed and such. I only used it for that class though.
- Tom Ribbens
I'm 36, typing class in HS used electric typewriters as PC's were too expensive at the time. Had IBM "lugables" for computer class :) Teachers in school did not like the printout from dot matrix printers so even though I had a computer at home since about 1981, we still used typewriters throughout school for reports etc.
- W_B_K
I learned to type before I could hold a pencil. Well, the 2-finger hunt-and-peck method of typing. I'm 38 now... I think I regularly used a typewriter for things until sometime around 1987.
- Nine
i did,since i was 9 to my late teens. no computer and a writer's spirit . I'm 31 now, the typewriter belonged to my grandfather, who gave it to me before he died. It's one of my most important possessions.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
I taught myself to type on one, so once we got a computer I used to bash the keys really hard. We got our first pc with printer in 1986, but I still used the typewriter for letters and stuff after that til the ribbons ran dry and we couldn't buy replacements - probably around 1990 I think.
- Mellissa
I used to carry around a portable electronic one in my briefcase that I'd take to high school with me every day.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm 40. My mom had a typewriter, I used it once or twice just to see what it was like to type on...
- Tad
I'm 50. Actually took typing in high school. That was mid-70's.
- Norma Dennis
I'm 37 and used a typewriter in my middle school typing class. Had a computer at home too though. I feel like I'm on the cusp.
- Graham English
from iPhone
I have attempted to use a typewriter before. My typing career suffered a major setback when I was kicked out of the typing teachers class on the first day of school. I decided after that that taking typing would not be a good idea.
- Alan Simpson
28 and I used my dads at home for school work when I couldn't get time on the computers at school until we got a computer in 94. The typewriter even had a delete key!
- alphaxion
I'll admit it ..... not the age part :)
- Charlie Anzman
i learnt to type on one. Used one until 2nd year uni (1991) when we got all cool with computers.
- Sue
I still use the old typewriter for post cards and special mailings (USPS) found extra ribbon on ebay.
- Tricia
I had one until my third year of college, in 1989 . . . then a Commodore something or other (128?)
- William Harryman
I am 43 and I used one up until 1999, which was when I got my first computer. I have it stored away in the basement. Should I ever need one for filling out a form, I'll go down there and drag it upstairs. It's a big heavy machine with a built in word processor. I stocked up on print & correction cartridges awhile back, just in case they stop making/selling them.
- April Russo (app103)
I'm 28, and I last used a typewriter about 4 years ago. Usually I own one, and now that you've posted this I want to go buy another. Love them!
- LAST DAY OF WORK
23 but my grandma had one, probably is still around, my impressions: the loudest keyboard I've ever used
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I stopped using a typewriter completely in '85 when I got my first PC... with an extra keyboard that allowed it to double as a typewriter! LOL!
- Arleen Boyd
used one at college, sometime in the late 80's haven't used one since though
- unicomunica
I did and we had a mandatory typing class Freshman year of HS. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I learned to type on one. Around 1989-90.
- Derrick
The last time was when I was a kid in the 70's. Then the ZX81 happened...
- Andy Bold
at my grandparents. probably mid-80's or so.
- SolidSmack
I still have to use a typewriter. It's a monster. IBM Wheelwriter 30 Series II
- MicahBear78
I had to take typing in high school. I got a 42. On a 100 point scale. It was definitely not my sport. I'm 44, btw.
- Kevin Pedraja
i have! I'm 35. I wish I still had one.
- Anna Lynn M.
I have never seen a functional typewriter. I'm 22.
- Garin Kilpatrick
We had the opportunity to learn how to type when we were young at school, age 11 I guess. That's how I actually learned typing!
- Kris
I've used 'em, even had a junior high typing class which I did horribly at, but surprisingly learned rudimentary skills. Remember having to retype entire pages every time I made an error on a paper that was due the next day. I used to always seem to be miserably sick the nights before papers were due, and miraculously cured the next day when I turned the paper in.. I'm about 43.
- motownmutt
through 92. got my first puter in 93.
- Matt Soreco
I took typing in 9th grade. Glad I did too. Now can I remember margins? Not like I can in Word...
- Mike Lewis
I'm 27 and I used one in elementary school for my reports
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
In my senior year of college (1982-1983), I decided to write my undergraduate thesis using nroff and some macros, rather than typing the whole thing on a typewrite.
- John E. Bredehoft
I had an electric typewriter when I was in college - but I didn't use it for much more than applications when I started using emacs and a dot matrix printer in 1983.
- Bill Sodeman
I learned to touch-type on a manual (non-electric) typewriter in junior high school in 1986. Born in 1973.
- Kevin Fox
Related question: when was the last time you used a pencil sharpener?
- Paola Bonomo
1st used typewritter in 1988 at highschool typing classes, actually five years after using an Apple at primary school in 1983
- Yant
Me. Played with parents' one in the '80s, used one for work right into the early 2000s (was a bank teller, had to type to make cashier's checks and money orders).
- Kamilah Gill
1997, and it was just to find and chat with my future husband, didn't know then that it would change all my life
- Olga Rasulova
1984. (Might have been 1983.) I'm really old.
- Kevin Gamble
1979. My dad volunteered to run a new department at his University. It was a new computer department running a DEC PDP 1134. Not long after we were connecting a dumb terminal to our analog phone at home to dialIn to access his mainframe at the school. I was 10. Dad's a blogger now and never has lost touch with technology. :-)
- Julian Seery Gude
from BuddyFeed
1985. Dialing out on a 300 baud modem with my C64.
- Kevin C. Tofel
1994, with a super fast 9600 baud modem. With the incredible Trumpet software providing a solid SLIP connection. 100hr/month for 25$ ! Holy shit, I was RICH than!
- Éric Senterre
1988 - Father-in-law introduced me - I was a big time BBS man with my 2400 Baud back then too :)
- Owen Greaves
1995 with my 14k modem using microsoft comic chat
- Nelson Mateo
1991 at college, U of C had an awesome internet setup. ran my first web server on a mac IIci running AUX in '94.
- felix
1992/3 - I was forced to learn it so I could teach using it. I remember sitting at a 486 reading while I waited for a page to load, so I could plan how to use it in class. Luckily the college provided tutorials and I had IT-smart friends. I fell in love with the computer & web and wrote my PhD thesis about that (ongoing) adventure - http://www.scribd.com/doc...
- Joan Vinall-Cox
1996? Whenever AOL went unlimited and it usually took hours to connect. I remember being as excited as a kid at Christmas when it finally connected!
- Josh Begin
When I was 10 I remember my dad bringing me to his work on a weekend and setting me up in front of a computer because I kept hearing something about a Cleveland Indians website on the radio. I begged him to take me back to work everyday after that.
- Alan Witzke
Think a few people here are referring to ARPAnet and/or online services?? 1993 ... Launched my first company (with it's own URL 1995)
- Charlie Anzman
Kevin - You're not old. 300 baud Compuserve ... text ... WOW!
- Charlie Anzman
Officially 1994. We used networked computers in the DoD in the 70s, but I was totally away from any web after that until '94. PCs were a shock to my system.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
'93 using an amateur radio modem. '96 for AOL using a Performa 400 (no web, just used AOL chats/email and telnet) and text-based web at the library. I think '98 before I was using a graphic web interface.
- Alix Whitmire
1997 but just in 1998 I have access to it with my first computer.
- Bibi
1997, I was 14 years old. My brother bought a computer and it came with an AOL Trial.
- Pamela
1994 with a 2400 baud modem and an AOL hourly account.
- John Fox
when i was about 10 years old in 4th grade on AOL...took my best friend and I about 45 mins to figure out you needed to plug a telephone cord into the computer lol. (about 1996-97)
- stanleyyork
1994 - it was all about AOL, web crawler, geocites ......I always thought how this thing, the internet, was going to get faster in the future..at that time I was 12.
- iTbay
Early 80's. There was only hosted chat rooms and it was all text and ascii art. I think MedDirec and the Green Door was a couple of them and I think some universities were toying with email. You really had to know protocol to get 1200 baud out of the modems. I came up with the idea to put a toggle switch on the front of the box instead of bridging the pins on the motherboard to go from...
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- Robt.D.McKenzie
1992 i think, trumpet, slip, telnet, stuff
- Liviu Barbat
i used 'sz' to download a file via zmodem, and slipknot to slip-over-shell circa 1994 yee haw
- Brian Hendrickson
91 or 92 via ampr.net over 1k2 baud shared radio channels. Then I signed up for demon.net "tenner a month" package at 14k4 full duplex :D. The rest, as they say, is net>
- Nick B.
Oh, and if you discovered the internet before the WWW existed, what was your first impression of that?
- Tad
from fftogo
I first started playing on the internet back in 1991 or 1992. A buddy showed me telnet bbs's and I was off to the race. I became an internet stud back in the time when the net was like 95% men. I think all of my dates in college were with women I met on internet bbs's. I met Lindsay that way. When I first started hearing about web browsing back in 93 or 94 I thought it was pretty stupid. Who'd want to look at that? It took a year or so for me to really "get" it.
- Tad
from fftogo
First time on the WWW and not a BBS? '91 or '92. Thought it was BORING. Only scientific papers. Never thought it would fly. BBS was much fuller, had a broader scope of items. We had were Prodigy customers from '87 - '91, IIRC. '93 or '94, I saw someone selling their stuff online. Told the record company I was at (worked in the licensing dept. then) that it would be awesome if they put...
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- Admiral Anika
i remember netscape and those aol discs i got in the mail. wanted to try the "free trial"
- Alfredo
I remember playing a mud and when I realized that these guys couldn't understand me because they were playing in BRAZIL it totally blew my mind. I couldn't get over how amazing it was to be having conversations with people all over the world in real time. SideNote: room mate failed music appreciation the summer we found Muds.
- Tad
from fftogo
around 1997 I would guess. I swiped a 14.4 kbps modem out of our computer parts box and got all the settings off my dads computer and got it all set up. I think I was about 14 at the time. It was the cats pajamas. It was also a little disturbing once you got to like line 300 of that 400 line jpg and you found out you were actually looking at a shemale :*(
- Geoff Schultz
1994 but the school only had a 4800 baud modem so we were limited to BBS and usenet. Used it to read up on xfiles episodes before they were broadcast over here. I knew I'd be spending a lot of my adult life on it!
- alphaxion
It was 1995. We had AOL and Compuserve. I knew that I was in love.
- Shevonne
Those were some expensive shemales Dave!
- Geoff Schultz
I don't really know. I was in Young Astronauts in the fifth grade when I started coding and they had a networked computer that talked to some different things. In the nineties I ran a hacker BBS with a friend and his brother. I guess I first ran into unbound net in the early to mid nineties.
- Neal Jansons
1987. But it wasn't until a couple of years later that they had SLIP and then PPP so my first few years were all through a terminal connection. Although I was fascinated with Mosaic, I was an NNTP die-hard and didn't see the need of the web over it and Gopher. It wasn't until about 1997 or so that I finally got over my attachment to NNTP and embraced the web in all of its horror show glory.
- Akiva Moskovitz
A friend in high school and I would modem-talk, so that was late 80s, we would call each other's computers. I'd say like '88. The first time I got excited was with the WWW, using Mosaic to download satellite infrared images of the world. I was working tech support in college, and I kept telling people how cool it was- it was my desktop image or something.
- anna sauce
1995 and I couldn't understand what all the hype was about.
- Kenton
lol Akiva you make me feel so young...I was writing Hello World when you first hit the net.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
I remember using it in 1993. I was 11 at the time. But I have vague memories of my father using the AOL BBS prior to that. I loved it when I started using it. Having your own computer and a modem is a great relief to an only child, let me tell you.
- Soup
And ofcourse, I was 15 at that time.
- Yuvi
from IM
Yuvi, not really. I was really young when I got my first computer.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I would have been 5. Started programming '87-'88 with BASIC, LOGO, and eventually C.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
80s and newsgroups, I thought that sci.energy.hydrogen was going to change the world.
- Robert Hafer
You were programming 9 years before I was born. That's old! :P How old were you when you started?
- Yuvi
from IM
1976 or '77. A school friend's dad was an astronomer and we used his university account to get on the network. We used to change people's account passwords, download files, etc. We also played games that people had available to others on the network. Nothing truly malicious, just kid jokester stuff. It was a world I'd read about but hadn't yet seen.
- Heather
1995/1996-ish....holy crap! there are nekkid ladies on that internet thang! yowzee!!!!
- Morgan Haley
Hey, the first computer I programed had 8 switches on the front panel for entering bytes. young whippersnappers
- Robert Hafer
Robert, you got on the internet with that? :D :P
- Tad
from fftogo
1991, when I went to college. I thought it was going to be an endless distraction. :)
- Morton Fox
1995, awesome way to get and give information and interact with others around the world.
- xero
1995, when I first went to college. At first I wasn't sure what to do with it.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
1992, university of florida - had to ftp/telnet host to host, then started building it when I got to spain for the USN. God that was fun - thanks for the happy memory jog tad. :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I was in college, and we could dial into the school's network. I also had an AOL disc. I think my modem was like 9600 baud? Probably 1993-4?
- Derrick
Tad, the most interactive I/O device for that was a Western Union teletype. When I got on a mainframe that supported VT100 terminals, that was something.
- Robert Hafer
1987 - used "med-line" online BBS service @ $50 bucks an hour to conduct medical research for college (that is now a FREE service on the 'net). Also used Lexis-Nexis, CompuServe, and a variety of interesting "chat" services. Mostly research. I learned how to login to various University library ListSrv, gopher, and card catalogs online (using kermit for file tx) - from my green screen...
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- Susan Beebe
Late 80s/early 90s; BBS boards, *Prodigy, then eventually Netcom.
- Pete Delucchi
Late 1994 in college; remember one prof. very carefully explaining what a 'browser' would look like years later. Most students thought she was crazy.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Had to be sometime in the late 90's I was at my friend kennys house and he was trying to teach my how to post on a BBS... I was like "Man this sucks! I'm never gonna use this Interanets thing."
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
1989. I finally had something to keep me company.
- Michael McKean
Probably '94... I think that's when CIS turned on Usenet access. Before that, all I knew were BBSs, CIS, and The Well. My first web experience came via GNN... I was a little indifferent at first, but fell in love with if a few weeks later.
- Roger Benningfield
from BuddyFeed
Wait. There's an Internet? Why wasn't informed?
- BEX
1998 or 1999 probably. I was very impressed at the time, although I only started to use it in earnest around early-mid 2000s when I got around to creating a now inaccessible random-pseudonymous e-mail account, discovered the joys of "free" DRM-infested music via a proprietary application for Mac OS 8 from LiquidAudio (RIP), and spent several hours browsing, fighting with streaming radio and trying to download stuff over a fairly expensive dial-up connection that maxed out at 33.something Kbps on a good day.
- Tyson Key
Oh, don't forget Tripod (doubles as an ersatz file sharing system between myself and a friend via FTP), GeoCities (the time I dabbled with HTML) and ICQ...
- Tyson Key
I 1st discovered the internet in 1995 (Worldnet, France). Impressed but continued to use & B SysOp of BBS and french RTC ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
1994. I ended up in a dorm that didn't have Ethernet, so we had to access the campus network through 14.4k modems. Mosaic was unusable at that speed, so we used Lynx. How did we find anything back then, since search engines didn't exist yet?
- Victor Ganata
1994 or so, on the computers in the lab at CSUS. I didn't really get it for a couple years after that.
- Bren -- Designated Driver
The internet? Well if you count the Usenet, then 1989 with several BBS's that had a connection to the newsgroups. Actual internet with email and everything. PCLink came out sometime in the early 90's. Turned into AOL and the rest is history.
- CW™
Quite late for me... i was already 20, in the late 90's. And i think i was just Napster at the time :)
- diego morelli
I discovered the Internet as it is today in about '97-98 I think, signed up to MSN. I thought it was OK, I think it took a few weeks for me to 'get it'. I used BBS for many years before this though.
- Kol Tregaskes
97 9th grade. Had one classroom with it. Didn't like the prof. Left internet alone mostly until 2000 and had a T1 in dorm.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
My dad got Prodigy in '88 or '89 and I remember finding the bulletin boards and thinking it was SO COOL. I also found an online game that took ages for each screen to load. But we had that briefly so I really remember getting it in '96 when we got AOL and I got all involved in chatting and even met up with a guy! This was when we all had to write down how long we'd been on because you...
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- Lis
Around 95/96 on Uk dial-up and heading to UK University. But the real discovery was coming to the U.S in around 98/99 and suddenly realising pages could load in less than 30 minutes a time...the only bad thing was coming back to the UK and AOL dial-up but once that was gone, it was all plain sailing...
- Absolute Radio
Around 1994-95. I was working in book publishing doing licensing and started reading about the WWW. I thought that there could be a lot of opportunity for book publishers to license their content websites.
- Lisa Kagel
1995. Used it for info and thought of it as an elektronic encyklopedia that spared med the trip to the library.
- Martin Liechti
1995 I was given a laptop at work to take home and sort out some stuff, I noticed it had a modem, plugged in and dialled up. I believe it was Compuserve I only remember seeing photos of Mars. I didn't stay too long because I did not have a clue about how much it was going to cost me. I bought my own PC the following year.
- M F
in 1980 my summer job was working in a computer room for Mohawk Data Sciences. (yes I am old) Was active in BBS's in the early 90's- Actual internet as we know it today - was using Trumpet Winsock in 1995, with Netscape 2.0 - i think....
- Mike Nencetti
It was around 1992 in the University. First it was email, gopher, and later WWW, which we browsed using Mosaic.
- Peter Sedik
1995: A friend an me sat in this internet cafe for hours and browsed the homepages of LucasArts and Sierra to find walkthroughs and announcements of new games.
- Michael Netsch
1990 in the offices of the East-West Center in Honolulu, a friend showed me Usenet over a VT-100 connection. I'd already heard of the Net from Jeffrey Hallett, former president of the Naisbitt Institute, but this was my first chance to see it live.
- Shel Holtz
For me it was 1994. I was a SAHM but always interested in new things. I'd heard the word "internet" and wasn't even sure what it was other than it connected computers but somehow I knew I wanted access to it and that it would be important. I had to do a lot of searching and asking around to find anyone who knew where to get service in my area. I went through over $500 in "credits" or hours online in my first 2 months. Been hooked ever since ;)
- Merlene
in 1.994 i was studying architecture and i decided to change my life working with internet
- cpons
1988. It was awfully boring back then, just ftp and email.
- DGentry
I don't really remember my first impressions, as it was back in 1986-1987 and it wasn't that big a deal. I was working for the University of Michigan computer network as a student back at the time--helping out in the computer labs--when UofM connected it's Merit network up with NSFNET from MCI and an IBM network into an "internetworked" system. Later, I vaguely remember using Gopher, IRC, USENET, and remember reading a USENET post from some guy in Switzerland talking about some web of hyperlinked pages...
- Ken Sheppardson
Hard to say. I used Promenade (now AOL) when I got my first PC in 1992. I didn't consider that the Internet though. It felt like a box with closed doors where you were able to explore sites and communicate with friends. In fact, I remember getting a {Netscape?) issued computer in '95 or so with all these websites prefixed by http:// and I threw out the magazine since I thought AOL was...
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- Tamar Weinberg
it was mid 1994. It was slow, boring and expensive...
- Tahir Zaimoglu
1997. I lived at thepark.com. I thought it was awesome to be able to chat with people who didn't know me.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
circa 1995. High school. "WWWhere have you been all my life?"
- Kamilah Gill
1993-1994 round about. I thought it was amazing but didn't yet see how it would really explode.
- AJ Kohn
1994 - I couldn't believe I could send a letter (email) to my family without any postage. I was writing them a letter weekly and I realized that this would be much easier.
- Travis Murdock
I guess that would be junior high, 1987. I was on the academic decathlon team and our advisor showed us how to research information from a local university's "online" papers. I remember thinking the modem was a hoot...one of those acoustic coupler jobs...but being online irritated me. I preferred going to a library in person. I didn't touch the internet again until 1992-ish. A friend...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
88/89 for me - started thru AOL - still remember my old AOL email address - tombuckob2! They got hooked on the rec.windsurfing newsgroup - where I found my tribe.
- Tom O'Brien
1992/93, right as Mosiac was coming into the picture, but I didn't have it on my PC so it was all text.I thught it was cool but a bit confusing and hard to navigate, but couldn't get enough of it!
- Kelly W.
1994. Was kinda young so it didn't make a huge impression other than a new way to make pen pals and play games.
- Katie is Frittering
Circa 1984 with my Commodore 64 and an attached 300 baud modem. I still recall the text scrolling across my screen from my first connection to a BBS. I was impressed.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
after bbs, I remember buying a book full of newsgroups.. didn't see the point at that time.. then we went to Aol :0 should have stuck with the newsgroups ;)
- Tim Hoeck
from AndFeed
1995, my freshman year in college. ESPN online, at any time I want? I'm sold!
- Jason D Barr
1996. "Lynx is not a very good web browser."
- Guan Yang
around 1989, I think. I wasn't enough of a geek to truly appreciate it at the time, though I did recognize the potential it had to make the world a much smaller (as in more connected) place.
- vicster is...
About 1992, when I got a Netcom shell account. Had been BBS'ing since '84, so it wasn't utterly foriegn.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
'91 when I first entered college. And yeah, MUDs took up way, waaaaaay too much of my time at one point.
- ronin
Mine will be 1991 when I was expose to VAX and Sun's machine. I still remember the good old days of gopher and usenet. And email attachments using uuencode/uudecode. YEAH and MUD too which also took out much of my college time
- Thomas Chai
Probably '92 or '93. Went online through AOL and a 2400 baud modem. Was too slow to be of much use, though, so I stuck with AOL and dialing up local BBSs. Once I upgraded my modem to a 14.4, though, I was able to browse the Web at reasonable speeds and had my mind blown by the sheer mass of information on totally obscure topics that was available online - info that was previously only available in micro-run niche zines.
- Eric Tatro
Late 80's, gopher, usenet, WAIS--"Who's getting all this info together and who's paying them?"--early 90's, Mosaic--"Needs some color and movement. Someone's going to want to put an ad on that."
- S. Charles Balazs
Getting my first out of network SMTP email from my wife who was in Nepal and fiddling around with AOL in the early 90s. Browsers were so clunky then.
- Colin Campbell
If BBSs count, my first foray was probably 1983. However I don't think BBSs would count: they were modem-connected islands, not using what is now the Internet.
- DGentry
Yeah, unless the BBS had an Internet gateway. A local WildCat BBS had an NNTP connection around 1988 or so. Before then, they were either independent or linked by FIDOnet (and boy do I miss me some FIDOnet hacking).
- Akiva Moskovitz
1994. first intro was irc via an eskimo north shell during lunch @ high school.
- Jason Wyttenbach
it was the summer of 1997. America Online 3.0 to be exact.
- MicahBear78
Dick and I saw Netscape for the first time in late 1994. We signed up with our first ISP, mo.net, in early 1995, and I could have pitched my Maritz client's first web site in spring 1995, but we went to a funeral in VA instead. Later that year I came up pregnant with our son and read Usenet alt.something-or-other.breastfeeding voraciously until Jojo was born - made all the difference...
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- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
1993 on a local ISP...all text. loved it!
- (jeff)isageek
1988, dialup to the local .edu, then browse their minerva Library system, emails to others outside my domain, telnetted out to various usenets and ircs and so on and so on, progressing and expanding tyhrough the years ever since. LEGEND OF THE RED DRAGON 4LIFE!
- Tsali, The Native of FF
1991 -- couldn't get my parents to get me a $20/mo Netcom Shell account. It was still years later before I got an Internet connection!
- Garry Tan
1990 - I was consulting for the old DEC and they had a funky connection to the internet but you could get to USENET via a proxy. I loved rec.arts.books and the tech news groups. I thought woaaa, there's a wide world out there.
- Dan Perlman
1999 - Brand new USR 56K Sportster as a gift
- flavio
2000 at the local library in the small country town I lived in. I didn't really know what to do with it, came across as a fast card file. Strangely my school had apples in 83 so was quite computer savvy. I didn't get my own computer till 2007 after backpacking for five years and using cyber cafes.
- Yant
Around 1994 through IRC. Thought it was the greatest thing since swiss cheese. Immediately got sucked into chat. Took my first job designing websites soon after.
- Leigh
1992. And it was awful, but fascinating at the same time. Awful because every command had to be spelled in the right way. No faults allowed. Fascinating because when I typed my own name (was it altavista in those days or was it all the connected university libraries together?) some information appeared! :-)
- Ton Zijp
1993 - I was working for an insurance co and the marketing research person had a dial-up AOL account that she shared with several of us. I was hooked.
- Paul Gibler
If you're married, do you share an email address with your spouse? My high school reunion was this past weekend and several people are exchanging emails to keep in touch and I've received 5 or 6 emails that are couple combos, saying this is their only personal email account. I want my own email account, married or not!
Share an email address? Um - not a chance.
- AJ Kohn
Yes we share an email account, we also share a facebook account. but I have my own email, twitter and friendfeed account....well, many email accounts.
- Mike Nencetti
Mike, why share an email account? I don't get it. What's the benefit over having separate accounts?
- Rochelle
I would never. I wouldn't share email, facebook, twitter or anything else. He'd be mortified.
- Karoli
I'm not quite married, but we certainly will not be merging email accounts.
- joey
Rochelle, the shared email account is for family stuff. we both have separate emails also. but we like having 1 shared account.
- Mike Nencetti
i think we shard for about 3 months after moving back to the US in 1998. as cited above, it's mostly about keeping track of your correspondence and not losing track of things.
- Joe Silence disconnected
Hell no. That makes absolutely no sense unless one of you has no interest in managing an email account.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Separate accounts. If there's something the other needs to know we just forward the email. I don't think we'd like a joint account.
- Alex Hellstrom
No and Harvey, it's just the opposite with me. Mine is buried in stuff and she has about 3 e-mails.
- Brent - Loving Life
No way, no how! I've seen some friends with joint email and never quite understood why.
- Kevin Whalen
Trish, a good question to post next. "is it OK for your spouse to read or have access to your email account."
- Mike Nencetti
Nope, but most of our married friends do. To me, it's just as wrong as sharing a bank account or chewed gum.
- Admiral Anika
My parents do, but they are both edging towards 70 and they don't receive that much email - and normally it is intended for both of them. My dad has a separate one for his amateur radio contacts, although I think my mom could access it if she wanted to. Still, different era/way of thinking about these things.
- Katy S
Is it just my friends, or do the female half of straight couples seem to be the ones managing the joint emails? My gay and lesbian couple friends don't share email accounts at all.
- Admiral Anika
Katy, that makes sense. My dad has an email account but my mother doesn't use email. So if I want her to see something, I just email it to my dad. But his account just has his name on it. My mother has never sent an email, and she's only 61. The people I"m talking about, though, are 36-40 years old.
- Trish R
Anika - I think my parents use their's equally, that is, neither seems to manage it more than the other. Then again, compared to many people's marriages from that generation, their's is pretty egalitarian and always has been. I think the idea of a joint account, for them, is as natural as their joint financial accounts. People today - especially women - might balk at not having their own account. For them, this was natural.
- Katy S
One of my email addresses is actually shared with my spouse; it's rarely used. It's also shared with my son, BTW. But everyone has their own private email addresses, too.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I see that a lot among the "straights."
- Leo Laporte
We have an alias on my domain that forwards to both of us when necessary. Otherwise, our email is separate.
- Jordan Hofker
Three things I my wife and I do not share: Last name, email address, Fudge Pops.
- The Letter M
Yes, and no. Thanks to the wonder that is gmail, we have a joint account that auto forwards to our individual accounts. That way folks that want to send an email to both of us can just type in one address. Simplicity in its complexity.
- Brandt Krueger
As many coupons as my wife signs up for, that would not be prudent. Is it a control issue, or what?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Several people in my Sunday school class have joint email accounts. I think the primary reason is that only 1/2 of the couple "does" email. Personally its not question I must have my own account. (or 6)
- Keith - @tsudo
I've encountered that too. Family members, very strange.
- Russellreno
I'm not married yet, and I don't plan to share any email in the future. That's just silly. A shared bank account (along with individual ones), sure, but email? That's as annoying as people who use a picture including their significant other as their main avatar for stuff (sorry if I'm stepping on any toes with that). Conjoined at the hip is not very healthy in my opinion. A couple should be a team, but still maintain some individuality.
- Kamilah Gill
Mr. McP doesn't even know how to turn on a computer but there were times that he was asked for an email address so he asked me to set one up for him, he still doesn't know how to access it, but it is his email address. He wouldn't know how to get into my email boxes even if he knew the addresses.
- Sharon McPherson
I've also heard that sometimes, these people will freakin sleep in the same beds too. And before they fall asleep, the boy will give the girl a "special hug". This conjoined at the hip thing isn't healthy!
- Matthew DeVries
For us, just as Jordan described (family domain, separate, and cross-forwarded).
- Micah Wittman
We have a gmail address that we both use as a junk account, but it's hardly touched and mostly by me. I don't even know if I'd call that a shared account. We have our own emails and our own social sites too. I remember back in the myspace days, we knew a few couple accounts. That was really aggravating to make sure you referred to the appropriate person when commenting.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Kevin and I both have several of our own email addresses, but we also have two addresses that are joint emails where that address just forwards to each of us separately.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Everyone who lives in the same house has the same snail mail inbox, I suppose -- perhaps they think of it that way.
- Christopher A Carr
Oh no ! People that use a single email box are generally not very interested by internet and social networks things... Email is for them "just" a message box with attachments.
- DAL
My mum and dad use the same email account ("roneyfamily") simply because they don't ever actually communicate by email
- Bryce Roney
Yes, sort of. We don't have specific email addresses, just catch-all-forwarding from a number of domains. Since our forenames both start with M it's easy to just tell people our email address is m@oneofourdomains.com. 99% of emails are for me so it's not a problem.
- Mark H
nope I like my email accounts like my bank accounts separate
- Tony C
We used to share one, but I created a Yahoo account for my wife about two years ago because I did not want her Spam co-mingling with mine. ;-) She is much more active on-line now and receives a ton of e-mail. So I'm glad we separated our e-mail accounts when we did, otherwise our inbox would be shear chaos by now.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I haaaate couples emails. I wouldn't mind setting one up for things like signing up for cable monthly bill notices but as my main email? No way! When I see herandhim combo variations as a main email address, I'm disgusted. It's annoying.
- Lise
no way-that would be absurd-we don't share an email, or a computer for that matter...
- Kelly W.
My husband and I each have separate email accounts (and, no, we don't know each other's passwords) and one shared email account which we use to send out evites, Christmas cards and new year cards from. Also, we use that account anytime we have to register someplace as a team -- just simplifies life a bit.
- Mansi Bhatia
from Nambu
Nope. I have set up an account for my wife, but she only checks it once every couple of months... :-(
- Joey Gibson
My wife prefers the telephone and writing old-school paper letters. I mind her email account for her.
- Chris Preimesberger
I could see myself setting up a married email account that is a first line of defense for triaging email from random contacts (as well as joint amazon accts and bills the like), but I would definitely want to keep my own email account.
- Chieze Okoye
No, I don't want to wade through all her boring emails. We both have multiple email addresses though I am trying to persuade her to use gmail to aggregate them.
- Eoghann Irving
I recently got into a heated argument with the husband of an old friend who shared an email with her and spied on her facebook account. Apparently, telling an old friend you miss them and often wondered how they were doing crosses the line of appropriateness. :/
- Graham English
nope, don't even have the same phone numbers anymore...
- Bill Kinney
separate emails... and 21+ years together... no "couple" email ever, those seem weird
- Susan Beebe
My Dad is 90. He has his own email address, but his email id is formed by concatenating his name with that of my mother's. So come to think of it, I guess it is a shared email, with my mother being the silent partner, email-wise.
- Ted Gilchrist
My grandparents share an email address (and a FriendFeed account!)
- Benjamin Golub
We have a shared one that I set up years ago. My husband gets very little e-mail and frankly is rather technologically challenged. Any problems, any maintenance, any spam, whatever, it's up to me. However, I have my own Gmail account that only I use. As far as social networks, that's all me....my hubbie wouldn't be caught dead on Twitter, FF or FB..........what can I say! ;)
- Bonnie Foster
yeah that's ridiculous - but then again, i don't really understand married couples that only have one bank account either
- Nathan Chase
I HATE it when people do that!! My dad and step-mother do that and so do my parents in law. So I can't ever just email one to find out what would be a good gift for the other and many other things like that. I guess they just find it easier to deal with.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
no just put your facebook.com/url :)
- Eric Nakagawa
actually sharing a bank account (or entering into a financial transaction together) is important for showing you have a real marriage -- my wife and I have one. But on the email front... that is just ridiculous. Unless you have compartmentalized your life so that business/personal/spam do not overlap this would be a contextual nightmare.
- Eric Nakagawa
Anika - You've tried to marry a foreign national and had to deal with the ICE and INS process?
- Matthew DeVries
What FabooMama said. (as wrong as sharing gum)
- Parth Awasthi
No, I haven't Matthew, but I have more than enough friends who have and they've never had to set up joint bank accounts. And that's not Eric said, anyway.
- Admiral Anika
I'm with you. Married or not, I'm my own person! I think it also goes to show trust issue.
- Moushumi Kabir
I thought think that's what he's saying, cause why else would you need to "prove you're really married", and the counselor helping my friends through the process strongly suggested the get a joint account, and they even had a kid.
- Matthew DeVries
Derrick, I did too as soon as I found out and limited profile on Facebook. That's so invasion of privacy to share something with a friend and for the friend to turn around and share everything of MINE with their spouse. Very weird.
- Moushumi Kabir
Karoli, so agree. Some of us girl friends share so many things, imagine if those were to be read by our husbands. So not right. Anthony: right on about Facebook. I limited access to my profile as soon as I realized some couple were sharing accounts/passwords.
- Moushumi Kabir
I rarely compare my marriages with others, people have their reasons for doing things, and it's not our job to understand it. If that works for them, then so be it.
- Bwana ☠
Obviously broadcast, since the intent and UI makes it so hard to have a conversation. Remember, twitter's main competitor is yelling out a window.
- Andy Bakun
Twitter is obviously a great broadcast channel - but I am having some awesome conversations with people on Twitter - don't dismiss its conversation potential out of hand.
- Chris Loft
It's a bit of both for me. The broadcast side has helped get more of an audience for my blog. Mind you, for really strong convos Friendfeed leads.
- George Hall (Australia)
from BuddyFeed
Both on some degree, can do some conversations not like FF for sure but its ok to get some instant feedbacks.
- Jacque
from fftogo
Does a broadcast conversation platform count? (Seeing as you can easily dip in with an @Reply to several people about the same thing)...
- Tyson Key
It was A welcoming speech. he wants to build a bridge between Muslim and USA and also wipe off Bad visage of USA Among Muslim Countries .he fights extremist with popularity and publicity.
- Amir
You know what shits me about the gay marriage debate... I didn't marry Rachael because she is a woman, I married her because I love her. When you define something to exclude a certain group of people, you end up discrediting the other reasons... like love.
Johnny, what are the laws in Australia about gay marriage?
- Rochelle
No gay marriage, civil unions kinda... The good fight is being waged here as well...
- Johnny Worthington
I can't imagine loving a person as much as I love my husband and not be able to marry them or have a civil union or jump off a damn bridge with them for all that it matters.....it hurts my heart.
- suzanne
Martin, with all due respect, anyone who would honestly believe that totally misunderstands the fundamental nature of true love.
- Johnny Worthington
BOLLOCKS!!! No, of course kidding, nicely put, Johnny :)
- Thomas Bøhm
I also have said this in another thread, you don't have to agree and I'm not suggesting you are wrong, nor am I trying to change your mind, I'm just nailing my colors to the mast. I respect EVERYONE's beliefs or ideals, even if I strongly disagree with them.
- Johnny Worthington
In a perfect union the man and woman are like a strung bow. Who is to say whether the string bends the bow, or the bow tightens the string? -Cyril Connolly, critic and editor (1903-1974) I doubt Connolly was commenting on preferred genders in matrimony (although he might have been ahead of his time), but I think the same observation could be made of true love in any relationship, gender aside.
- Bob Young
Yep, but I don't really connect with people there. I just read stuff. If I want to talk about something, I share it here.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Using more and more FriendFeed, Twitter, Facebook and less Google Reader
- Ralph
Clearly my most used online app, so yes. All the other tools revolve around it in my world. My dad read the newspaper every morning, I read Google Reader all day.
- Bwana ☠
Yes, it's still the best way to track blogs that write about stuff I like.
- arjo
YEah. I used to use Feeddemon but I like having my feeds synced over multiple devices with the least amount of hassle. Google Reader works perfectly for that.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
I use it, but I don't use it in a social way.
- Alix Whitmire
Of course! I also use FF a lot, but it didn't actually reduce my activity on Greader
- Stanislas Jourdan
Yes, but not directly, I skim entries via my program ( http://ff.im/38Yl8 ), if I am interested I click. So to FF/twitter/gmail/and other urgent feeds
- Yu-Jie Lin
Yes, since 2006. I used Bloglines and Sage (Firefox add-on) before.
- LouCypher
No. I stopped using it a long time ago when I switched to FeedDemon, then I stopped using that too (keeping up with 200+ feeds was just too much). Now, I use Gmail's Web Clips with 14 feeds (including the feed for popular bookmarks on Delicious). If the item is new and the title is interesting enough, I click. Still, I keep saying to myself: "I should go back to FeedDemon someday."
- Yaser Sulaiman
I use it on a daily basis. It is my primary means of keeping up with all the latest news.
- Bob Blunk
I setup google reader with a few local news links, so if I share something it's sent to friendfeed and then twitter. dont use it alot, forget to. I have FF, I let other people find interesting links for me to read.
- Mike Nencetti
Yep. No other readers sync with the iPhone as well. Sure, there's NetNewsWire, but I don't like it.
- Larry Hudson
Yes, but am really searching for an alternative that allows me to have smarter results... some blogs have posts I am not interested in. Today I just started trying out bytagg.
- Sid Burgess
Most people say RSS is dead because Twitter takes over by being real time. The issue with that is that we ourselves cannot be available real time, all the time. RSS helps you cache that information to make it available when you cannot be in the stream.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
Zee: gloat? With a few dozen comments? Come on, please do be real. I have 89,000 followers on Twitter, 5,000 on facebook, 38,000 on friendfeed. When you get close to those numbers let me know. Then I'll let you gloat.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble How do you mean "what I get close to those numbers?" - can you clarify
- Zee.
Robert: I don't think he wants to gloat about his numbers. It's about the fact that a lot of people still do use Google Reader or other RSS Readers; they just don't socialise with it as much as they do with Twitter or FF.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
Yes, but I feel I'm wasting to much time with it. Browsing entire RSS feeds is not really targeted and Google Reader doesn't filter.
- Oliver Bouchard
I use it for my feedreading, but not socially.
- Scott Bulloch
Yes I do, keep it opened in a firefox tab almost all day.
- Vineet Bhatnagar
from Nambu
I'm still waiting to hear what Scoble's crap about "89,000 followers on Twitter, 5000 on facebook and 38,000 on Friendfeed" was about.
- Zee.
naa, he'll respond - at least i hope so. Because I'm really hoping i'm wrong about what i think he was implying there.
- Zee.
yes I do = but I am quickly finding FriendFeed and Twitter replacing some of the feeds I used to subscribe to.
- Tony
Yes! I use Google Reader constantly, in my web browser and on my iPhone. I have RSS feeds set up for my common Twitter searches, too. I also use Yahoo Pipes that I've developed over time to have very targeted RSS feeds. But I don't socialize via Reader.
- Kurt Rosenkranz
Yes, I still use Google Reader, voraciously. It has NOTHING to do with comments/followers. Rather, GReader is a tool for being better informed. Sometimes I use my GReader learnings in the real world - in conversation - where we don't formally have followers and such.
- Mike Reynolds
R.Scoble: What do follower numbers have to say in this matter, or at all ? I thought you had a statement about quantity vs quality some time ago as well ?
- Thomas Bøhm
I use NewsFire, and occasionally Resc Newws! on my PalmOS phone. I guess I haven't joined the "everything's in the cloud" revolution yet.
- Joshua Lee
<whisper> I've never used it. </whisper>
- Derrick
Thomas: follower users tell you how many people use a service and map pretty closely how many people are using a service, if you can see them in aggregate.
- Robert Scoble
Zee: it's not what 80+ people on friendfeed say. It's how many people ACTUALLY use these services. Google Reader just doesn't have the numbers. My follower numbers are a very accurate indicator of that.
- Robert Scoble
R. Scoble: people follow more people on Twitter than on Facebook because Facebook means you share a lot of information, so I'm not sure if those numbers mean much in the way of that.
- Joshua Lee
@Scoble But how do you know how many people use Google Reader?
- Zee.
I don't use google reader, and I use twitter, facebook, and a bit of friendfeed. ;-)
- Joshua Lee
But Robert, I use GReader EVERY DAY, but I'm not really socially connected with anyone on it. GReader's main function can be used without any social integration at all - so how many people follow you or vice versa isn't really relevant. Even leaving aside the issue of whether number of followers is relevant at all - it certainly isn't relevant when the core function of a service isn't connecting with other people, but consuming content.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yes: it is a convenient tracking system and I like the email alerts
- Anita Hunt
Yes. It's an essential daily tool for must-read feeds, as well as for discovery. Social media does not give me the same content as my must-read feeds.
- LogEx
Sometimes feeds generate data for social media.... I share a lot of links via email and occasionally facebook or twitter.
- Joshua Lee
No. Currently it does not cater for my feed reader needs.
- Vidar Andersen
I used to use a similar online newsreader, bloglines I think it is called, but after a while I found having to check a website unweildy - the whole point to RSS is to not have to play with your browser to read information.
- Joshua Lee
If you want to follow blogs directly on their site, at least for Blogger, you pretty much have to do use Google Reader. I know I've had that feedback from my followers.
- Fossil Huntress
Yeah, blogger is a bit of a closed ecosystem. Very ungooglelike.
- Joshua Lee
/me uses his best Ronald Reagan impression "Mr. Brin - tear down this wall"
- Joshua Lee
every day for real work needs. for all the rest, FF, Twitter and Facebook
- Giovanni De Stefano
Yes. Daily. But I overlay it with Feedly - www.feedly.com - which makes it rather prettier.
- Stephen Collins
Clearly Scoble doesn't really want to get too involved with this discussion. Which is disappointing considering he was the motivation for the post in the first place.
- Zee.
Google will eventually add real-time and social networking stuff to Google Reader, and especially with algorithms to suggest the best posts to read, then all will use that most
- Charbax
I use it. But I don't share anything with it. I just use it to keep on top of a few news sites and forums.
- Jan Ole Peek
no, but I'm ashamed to admit it. I used to use bloglines.
- Laura Norvig
I live in Google Reader. It's my life line for discovery, digestion and distribution.
- Mike Fruchter
I do. I could live without FF, Twitter et al but Google Reader is a time/life saver.
- Murray Barton
Not much anymore. I push most of my rss feeds through FF. That way I still get RSS goodness without constantly fighting an unread count.
- Tech Introvert
well clearly according to Scoble, all of you guys saying that you use it are not part of the majority...and Google Reader is actually a very quiet place
- Zee.
Went from Google Reader to NetNewsWire simply because of the syncing ability between the Mac client and the iPhone app.
- Mike Bracco
Zee: sorry, I had to drive Patrick home. There are a variety of ways to see how popular Google Reader is. Look at Quantcast. Alexa. Compete. Compare referee logs with others, etc. I have kept on top of the usage numbers and Google Reader isn't keeping up with growth in other agregator types like Facebook and friendfeed andthe people I compare numbers with see a lot more traffic from...
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- Robert Scoble
@Scoble thanks for the clearer and less agro response. I'm really going to dig in and do some research into it because although I definitely believe that Facebook & Co. are growing much faster...as a news source/tool - i still believe it's number 1 and has huge potential for further growth
- Zee.
i do and love its integration into everything
- Zach Scott
I use it a lot. Get and collect most of my "news" there.
- kilbuda
Yes. I've been using it less because of FriendFeed and Reader's content/ attention data lock-in. If Reader: 1) allowed us access to our attention stats, labels etc. through interactive UI or flat file export (Diigo), I'd use it more. 2) added a simple WYSIWYG editor to the comments feature to improve it as a blogging platform, I'd use it more. 3) allowed for Gtalk chat's around articles with chats that could be appended to the articles (think Gmail with appended Gtalk chats), that would be useful as well.
- Jack Frizzell
Yes. Recently I love to use GReader via feedly.com
- yezi
Yes, though a lot less since Friendfeed came along
- jcunwired
I stopped a few months ago...but now I'm back to using Feedly - love the magazine layout, just a cleaner better way to read (for me that is ;)
- Aline Ohannessian
extended firefox with feedly this evening -- thank you all for that recommendation, gReader looks so much better, especially where the folders can be customized with different views: magazine stylesheet enhances the readability of content. [I'm looking into the exposure of private feeds when feedly services are used. Comments? It was surprising how they got to my subscriptions without my password.]
- Adriano
Adriano: Feedly is well done, isn't it? It's the only thing these days keeping me from abandoning FF completely for Chrome.
- Christopher A Carr
[off-topic @cacarr : ditto, cf. extensions like Zotero, It's All Text (w/ vim ;-), or even Read It Later]
- Adriano
Yes I do, and I'm also pretty impressed with feedly/firefox, but I use that in addition to slogging through my greader feeds. I'm in the process of re-organizing my feeds so I can "mark all as read" without concern I'm missing something I need to see. "a1_events a2_casts b1_techblogs x9_other" etc.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
& my shared items get routed to Friendfeed+Facebook & from FF to Twitter... :)
- Roshan Ramachandran
I do use Google Reader but just to read news feeds not sharing or whatever. The number of updates is getting a bit unmanageable now and I end up bulk-marking a lot as read, but it's good to skim through the headlines or less active feeds.
- By_tor
Yes, but must admit my usage of it has dropped off a cliff since I started using Twitter more (mainly because it was easier to digest content on a mobile), but think the noise ratio is greater on Twitter, so may go back to Reader when I get the next iPhone.
- Paul M Evans
I experience the entire internet through google reader - even twitter and friendfeed are read in google reader.
- Ian Tindale
If I share stuff in Feedly it ends up in FriendFeed and Twitter. Someone has to put the good stuff up there to retweet...
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Absolutely! Google Reader is still the first webpage i hit in the morning to read my "a-list" tagged feeds.
- Niklas Sjostrom
yes i do but since friendfeed came on the scene it gets less and less
- (jeff)isageek
yes but mostly through Feedly, and i do use Friendfeed to replace some stuff too.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Yes.. I would never socialize on it as well, the tool is of course, fantastic..
- Daniel Tal
Yes. I hate to admit it but Google did a great job with Reader. At first I didn't share anything but after some tweaking I got addicted to it. The gadget is great too (when it refreshes of course)
- Carlos Lorenzo
Bloglines seems to be less reliable than Google Reader, but I stick with it because it's much easier to use. Complete navigation with single key strokes. Google Reader forces me to use the mouse. Too fussy. I'd prefer a desktop client, but haven't found one that is as good as Bloglines (on Linux).
- Peter
Yes. I have hundreds of RSS feeds that I read via Reader. I haven't found a better Web-based replacement. I do not use Reader for it's social networking aspects though.
- Glenn J. Ward
It's the only RSS reader I use. I've tried several RSS apps on my phone and a couple on my computer and none are anywhere near as good as the web based Google Reader, either on my phone or on the computer. So I just stick with it.
- Nathan Mylott
Zee - thanks for the link - I followed it and found 'helveitreader' which is nicer still. However, I have issues with the interaction as well as the style. (http://ff.im/3d9Np [http://ff.im/3d9Np] is real)
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Yes. only way to keep track of 250blogs, and its the only remotely Social media style site that isn't blocked by my work IT department. I share stuff not in Greader but on here more so.
- Yant
I use reader, but keep looking for ways to cut myself off from it. I hate feeling that I have to read everything.
- Daniel Zarick
yes. (btw @robin: it's fixed i think. can you please try again?)
- Yusuf Güzel
Yes, but not actively. I use it to aggregate my favorite newsfeeds into one giant RSS feed, which I feed into Wizz RSS reader (Firefox plugin). Wizz automatically checks for updates at specified intervals, so I stay on top of the latest news from all services. I also use it to search mp3/filesharing RSS feeds that I subscribe to, and to bookmark useful posts.
- LANjackal
Used to use it all the time, but I still check on my feeds from time to time through it.
- i80and
I used to use bloglines, but once google added the ability to search only my feeds, they had me hooked.
- Davis Freeberg
Yes, its my central information repository.Where i aggregate all interesting RSS ( from almost 150 different sources) so i never miss a beat. There are certain desktop apps which are better then Google Reader but whats great about it is its online repository which works for every device i use to access it. Though i clearly think there is a hell lot of improvement needed. In its current avatar it can be pretty unmanagable specially if you read a lot and you can't be online 24*7.
- Abhishek
OmniFocus is my primary management tool (+OF for iPhone & MobileMe), and I give it a 9-10 (though I give my GTD mojo a 5); then there's OmniPlan which is great in principle, and I use it to design projects, but I haven't been able to create a workflow for my team that's allowed me to use it beyond the "10,000 foot perspective" aspect (e.g., year-to-year).
- Jason Miller
Mostly (but not that often) OnStage (7 in 10). For simple to-do or checklists, Remember the Milk (9 in 10). 3 in 10 for me, for not tweaking them enough to my needs.
- Jorge Martins Rosa
Steve, what does this $1.99 per month give access to? To all posts (like: your whole blog archive, possibly years back), or only the posts being written that month?
- Meryn Stol
I am not sure to be honest. I believe full text of all new content.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
Great, but I still don't get why this is not a free service. If I subscribe to the 500+ feeds I read on a daily basis, this would be 1000$ per month :(. Is the revenue shared on this monthly fee I would pay?
- Arnaud Fischer
Arnaud has it right. Why would I pay even the most minimal fee to read an otherwise-free blog on a Kindle? This is something that Amazon's Kindle got wrong in the business model.
- Jill O'Neill
I suspect its driven by Amazon's decision to use Sprint as the Kindle's only network connection, not supporting wifi. Amazon has to pay for everything transferred to your Kindle, forever, so content will only be free when amazon sees enough marketing benefit to be willing to eat the cost.
- DGentry
Læste en meget god beskrivelse: twitter er til "broadcast", ff er til diskussion.
- Martin Liechti
from fftogo
Præcis, Martin. Men det er jo det samme som var diskussionen i Jaiku-Twitter-snakken for et par år siden. Det ene er bygget til diskussion, det andet er ikke. Men den foregår heldigvis alligevel på Twitter. These days.
- René Clausen Nielsen
Det problematiske er lidt, synes jeg, at det er dual-content (fx Twitter og FriendFeed) og derved kan der være to paralelle samtalespor om ét tweet. Det synes jeg ikke rigtig er hensigtsmæssigt...
- Lars K Jensen
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- Scott of Two Countries
Yes sir! I will not respond to this, will not comment and will not 'like' it. NOT :)
- imabonehead
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- Louis Gray
Higlet, this was the right post in which to do it. :)
- Louis Gray
Oh lord. Now you've gone and done it. You've created a black hole in the fabric of the universe and we will all be sucked into an alternate reality. Thankfully we won't notice, because we will still see a reality.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Pffft. Are you trying to demonstrate that not all browsers are created equal? Not only do I not use FF for FF (you heard) the fact that I did just to make sure highlights a very important point. I discuss that more here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/worldof...
- WorldofHiglet
I heard a thing about 5 years ago that if you place a finger or something like a Q-Tip in your ear, it tickels the cough reaction in your throat (since the ear, nose and throat is all connected). Happens to me every single time. Just wanted to see if I am alone in this. Keep the answers coming in :D
- Johnny Worthington
from IM
Sorry, Johnny, I can do that all night, it doesn't make me cough at all!
- Ian May
Nope. And SHAVE. I'm the official facial hair model on FF.
- Tad
Sheesh Johnny, maybe only special people have this happen. So it happens to two out of ten. I just asked if my husband had this with Q-tip the other morning when I went into coughing fit after having this happen.
- Janet
ha....sadly I can't put my finger in my ear that easily right now :P Besides...I have things in my ears all the time. I wear hearing aids :P
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
No, it just made me laugh uncontrollably!
- Alex Scoble
You all aren't getting your fingers into the ear deep enough. Sort of like tickling your eardrum.
- Janet
nope. I use Q-tips all the time and go as deep as is safe and have never ended up coughing. Occasionally it does tickle, but no cough.
- Rachel Lea Fox
No, and a Q-tip won't do it for me either. Then again I use a Q-tip in my ear canal every day, so I'm probably immune.
- Kevin Fox
Are you people mad?!? My granny said never put anything smaller than your elbow into your ear - and she was right! Don't blame me if you die....http://www.cbc.ca/news...
- WorldofHiglet
My pinky doesn't, but the q-tip does and I'm glad to know I'm not alone with that. My family and others think I'm extremely strange when it happens.
- John Spyers
No cough but there was this funny"swoosh" sound and my head kinda shriveled like a prune. Is that a bad thing?
- Jim Espinoza
If I really go in there with a qtip and dig around in there where i shoudn't be, I kinda get a tickle in my throat..sorta...but no cough and this is definitely not something I do on the regular...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
It works the other way around too. If you have a cough you can't stop, try cleaning your ears.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Just read if sticking your little finger or Q-tip in ear AND it makes you cough...you are a more evolved human (j/k) I am apalled at the ratio of cougher to nothingness. I think three out of 75? Is this worthy of an orphan disease study????
- Janet