FriendFeed for the time being is not going anywhere. For the past week the lack of information has troubled and angered me, especially in regards to the termination date for the service. Now, almost a week on, the lack of information now gives me comfort.
- Johnny Worthington
When ever you here about a take over of a car company or any business merger, the plans for both sides are well documented and everyone involved knows the road map ahead. So far, no one knows what will happen to friendfeed.com and I believe that is because either that hasn't been decided or there is no immediate plans to throw the switch.
- Johnny Worthington
Facebook either doesn't want it or simply doesn't care. They got the talent and that is what they were after. FriendFeed posed no real threat to them and a great majority double fisted the sites anyway. So, since it is not an issue to them... it's not an issue to them. The site can continue to function as normal, with pace of updates and servicing slowing as time moves forwards... but it's not going away.
- Johnny Worthington
It would be nice to get some form of notification but until told otherwise, it's business as usual. Even more so, if some form of monetization strategy is implemented, say with adds or even a premium subscription base, the FriendFeed service could not only continue long term but become a profitable venture. Now I'm not saying it's going to make Diddy-style dollars but Sanjya still eats well.
- Johnny Worthington
Am I naive? Probably. Do I have any basis for my prediction? None other than rampant fanboy love.... but I tell you what... on the morning of December 25th, 2009, I plan to make my post wishing you all a Merry Christmas, toast the FriendFeed team and enjoy the day with my family and friends, digital or otherwise...
- Johnny Worthington
Louis... I can never hope to drop science like you sir... but then again... I not only used the phrase 'Diddy-style Dollars' but threw in a 'double fisted' for good measure :P
- Johnny Worthington
When it's Christmas, there's cold weather involved - I'm not a fan of that!
- Drew
Lindsey, agreed, but what do they gain by not telling us that information if they know it? FriendFeed makes no money, no refunds need be paid and no customers are being hurt. In the cold hard truth, the team has cashed out and now have a bigger fish to fry. If they switch it off tomorrow, will you stop using Facebook because they now work there? No PR worries at all. It makes no sense for them to keep it quiet so, sense being the only thing I can go on, I must believe the information is not at hand.
- Johnny Worthington
So, in other words... no ice bergs ahead at this stage. That means, crew of the good ship FriendFeed, I'm gonna keep pushing this site hard, promoting it and the community like I have a heater strapped to the front of the boat.
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny, there is quite a bit of sense as to everyone keeping quiet about what is going to happen. Facebook have just bought themselves a competitive advantage and they are not about to give away that advantage by saying what it is that they will be doing now are they?
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Other than releasing Facebook real-time search, buying FriendFeed and launching the Facebook Lite beta all withing 48 hours... yeah, they are keeping their cards close to their chest :P
- Johnny Worthington
Yeah but all of the FB announcements not relating to FF were already complete with the FF team. Therefore you can only expect that the FF team will be working on some things that a VERY different. I also read that the FF team were actually being broken up an duferemt people were going to be in different areas at FB.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
I hope that I'm able to celebrate Christmas on FriendFeed too:)
- Patrik Johansson
Actually, as far as I can tell, Like in FB does do something: it's basically an empty comment, so you get notified of new comments that occur after you Like it.
- Mistletoe Glen
@Glen: it's true but what bothers me most is that unlike friendfeed, fb delivers a separate mail for every person that comments on that post. #lame
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
I would just like to go on record here and clearly state that, were I able to do what this lion is doing, I WOULD NOT! NO! NEVER! EVER! Thank you.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Mark, not even if they were dipped in chocolate?
- Adrian
Yau'll are some sick _ucks. Let the King have a private moment for God's sake. Shame on you people. Can't yau'll see he's welcomed in the jungle. He went down south :)
- Jeunelle Foster
I made it! Most influential British Twitter users revealed - Telegraph (UPDATE: wow - thanks so so much guys. Can't believe the love i have on here.) - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...
well done, Zee! Glad you're ahead of Peter Andre....:)
- WorldofHiglet
Hi, Zee ! je vais de ce pas jeter un coup d'oeil chez les Britons ;-)
- Desirade
zee - gifted followers = default list/suggested user list - when a media outlet reports on "x account has y followers" it's almost like there needs to be a notation that they were given the followers as a freebie.
- Allen Stern
Strange enough, the link to the PM's wife's Twitter page isn't direct; it's <http://go.telegraph.co.uk/...>...is this done to possibly track the number of clicks or something? All the other Twitter accounts listed are direct links
- Itachi
i thought that everyone has agreed to used "listed" as the new 'count that matters' -- there's more of a meaning to listing someone and there never was a suggested list... however... the more followers you have the more chances to be listed there are ( i guess )
- Chris Heath
Heh, nvm, seems it was a bug on my end. The link does take you to her Twitter page, but while I was mousing over the links I saw the go.telegraph.co.uk link and was a little perplexed why they had that there. It's gone now after a refresh
- Itachi
wow - thanks so so much guys. Can't believe the love i have on here.
- Zee.
Mazel tov, Zee! You're one of my tech favorites on here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Big Congrats Zee ,, all your HArdwork is paying off
- johnpiercy
Now don't let it go to your head and start thinking that services need to bend the way they function to your will and don't start ripping services when they can't perform to insane, unrealistic, and just plane silly standards. "WTF GReader's interface starts breaking down and failing when ever I try to display 1 million individual RSS feeds on 15 inch screen at one time, this is entirely unusable!"
- Matthew DeVries
"A community of ‘candid’ photographers of men in public situations (all of whom have paid for their accounts in good faith) has been displaced and silenced on photo-sharing site Flickr in less than a fortnight. Four prominent photostreams as well as countless photos vanished from July 6th 2009 to July 13th 2009 without warning or right to appeal. At least one site had over a million hits in less than a year. Flickr has stubbornly refused to give a reason for its recent axe-grinding mission against these sites, but one user was given the reason ‘voyeur content’ after more than 8 days of asking for a reason yet that particular site contained pictures of men in public which is legal. Flickr has refused to expand on the reason it gave, but cited its ambiguous and open-ended ‘Don’t be creepy’ clause in its Terms of Service asjustification for terminating at least one photostream. Flickr has also silenced debate about the issue on its Help Forum. When confronted with whether or nor the...
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- Thomas Hawk
Good! Flickr is out of control. They should not be allowed to delete a paying customer's photo or photostream without notifying the customer of the "problem" and giving them a chance to correct/explain the situation. It's just bad business. Flickr is a great site, but the negatives are slowly chipping away at the positives.
- Rob LaRosa
Yeah, Flickr is pretty out of control. I think I'll be letting my membership expire and using only Pbase from now on.
- Todd Walker
Wow. How do I move all of my photos from flickr? I suppose I'll have to find somewhere new to put them.
- joey
I think it sort of sucks that I post a link to blog specifically about account deletions to a Flickr Help forum thread specifically account deletions and get banned from the public forum. The Flickr is Fascist blog is not mine, I was merely reporting on it.
- Thomas Hawk
Looks like it's time to abandon Flickr to Mussolini. And then kick it in the head.
- James (!?)
Uh oh. You've been put on the naughty step.
- Simon Wicks
Seems like the more we rely on web services the more of our rights we inadvertently give up. With web services being bought, sold, discontinued, or the arbitrary rules that they invoke, we are more and more at the mercy of whim of the site owner. It seems like it is time for some sort of universal user bill of rights that defines a minimum level of service we should expect and defines guidelines for disputes between users and service providers.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Well Thomas, as the CEO of a competitor to Flickr, it was only a matter of time before they tired of your "crusades" and troublemaking. (regardless of how worthwhile they are, and they are)
- Robert Kenney
I have kept my photos on Flickr, because that is where my family goes to, but I also have them on Zooomr, really not happy with Flickr
- Kim Landwehr
This is clearly a signal that Flickr is on the move. To be spun-off, sold, etc. As part of preparations for this, they have been given a mandate to clean-up the site of "less desirable" content to make it more marketable to a buyer.
- Robert Kenney
What are the best alternatives to Flickr?
- Johnny
Johnny, that depends on what you want from the site. If you want a community, then Flickr is probably the best. If you just want a place to host your photos or sell your work. there are plenty of other options. Here are several that come to mind. Zooomr, Smugmug, Picassa, Snapfish.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Robert Kenney: Thomas has been a critic of flickr, but he's also an advocate and user of flickr, in addition to being a competitor. The photo sharing biz is funny that way.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
i also don't like the fact that Flickr staff refers to me as "abusive" before kicking me out of the forum. My criticism has always been respectful. Simply because someone criticizes you does not make them "abusive" that's such a loaded almost libelous term. I resent that Flickr would call me abusive and then lock me out of the forum where I can't defend myself against that accusation.
- Thomas Hawk
Flickr is not a democracy, as they remind all of us again and again.
- Robert Kenney
Robert, but users should be able to expect a certain level of civility and recourse that you expect, (and is often required by law) when doing business with a brick and mortar establishment.
- Jeff P. Henderson
the anti flickr blog by the way has moved and I honestly have absolutely zero to do with this new anti flickr blog. I was simply reporting on it after the authors of the blog (who I do not know who they are) pointed it out to me. http://saynotoflickr.blogspot.com
- Thomas Hawk
I've been arguing against arbitrary account deletions and censorship there pretty passionately for a while. Especially lately as the account deletions seem to have escalated (and especially anything associated with or male gay related). I suppose they don't like being criticized for their deletion decisions, but personally I think labeling me as "abusive" for it and censoring me is yet another bad tact for them to take.
- Thomas Hawk
don't like flickr's problems? put your pix somewhere else. It's a website, not a national government; it's not fascist.
- Chieze Okoye
Most of the time those being deleted have no platform to object and so they turn to the only public avenue that they know the help forum. I like sticking up for the little guy, especially when he/she's in the right. It is frustrating though feeling like you are banging your head against the wall with Flickr who just seem frankly not to care one bit about the criticism or even ever address their censorship choosing to simply lock any thread objecting to it.
- Thomas Hawk
no, Chieze, it's not just a "website," any more than FriendFeed is just a "website." It's a community. That's always been what's made it special. It's just too bad that those overseeing the community don't feel that they need to have respect for it.
- Thomas Hawk
My contention is that Friendfeed *is* just a website, though. It's kinda nice when they get stuff right, and kinda bad when they get stuff wrong, but at the end of the day, it's just a tool. Is your tool breaking or acting up? Try to fix it within your capacity (writing blogs sometimes works when you're not part of the development itself, but bandying about hyperbole like calling a website fascist usually doesn't) or just move to the next tool that will work reliably the way you want.
- Chieze Okoye
There's a huge audience that you only reach through Flickr. There's no "next tool" to reach that many.
- Bruce Lewis
Chieze, I didn't call Flickr fascist. I simply reported on the fact that *somebody else* started a blog called that. I pretty much report on everything that's related to flickr that I come across. I'm not sure why I should have been banned simply for reporting on it. We'll have to disagree on both Flickr and FriendFeed merely being "websites." I hold to my contention that they are far, far, more than just "websites," that they are very significant hubs for communities, both of them in fact.
- Thomas Hawk
The thing that bugs me most about the way Flickr deals with things is that they delete and/or block, giving the accused no avenue for recourse. If they want to accuse me of having photos on the site that aren't mine, that's fine, but don't take down the evidence. They should have to leave the pics up there and prove to me that they are right. How could I do that after my pictures have...
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- Kenton
Oh, Thomas, I realize that you weren't calling it fascist, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was conflating you with this blog's behavior. Sorry about that. We will have to agree to disagree about the tool/website thing, I guess. I'm not an avid Flickr user, so I don't have that passion (but I am an avid Friendfeeder, at least by my personal standards, and I still think the way I do...
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- Chieze Okoye
Also, @Bruce, at this point, no one should be surprised with Flickr's behavior. Yes there's great audience, but it's not like there NO OTHER photo sharing site that has a community of people you can connect with. Continuing my tool metaphor, it would be like if you had the world's best hammer, but that hammer had poisonous spikes on the handle. For some people who need it or really want...
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- Chieze Okoye
Chieze, I'm well aware there are other photo sharing sites. I run one. But for photographers with a professional interest in getting noticed, Flickr is not optional.
- Bruce Lewis
Saying there are options to Flickr is like saying there are options to Windows. Sure, technically there are but not may people use them.
- ChiliMac
Yeah, Flickr isn't optional if you want to build a brand/reputation or just get noticed. Which sucks, because I'd have dumped my account there in protest a while ago if that wasn't the case. What's idiotic is that I can't even fathom a reason for these absurd censorship policies. How difficult can it be to implement an holding pen for violating accounts and a review process before they pull that delete trigger?
- Eric P
posted your blog post separately See-ming. http://friendfeed.com/thomash... Ironicly, posting about this "Flickr is Fascist" blog is what got me indefinitely banned from the Flickr Help forum. I think that they are pretty pissed off about it. At least pissed off enough to ban me over merely mentioning it publicly.
- Thomas Hawk
@TH Thanks! I was not going to post it until I realize recently that it is happening to a lot of my gay friends - including some who cannot post to my groups anymore because they are having the same problem, which is very sad.
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
As someone who has, quite unfairly, had their name featured several times in the Flickr is Fascist Blog, and who knows who the perpetrator is I can understand why Flickr would want to protect it’s users in this way. The person behind it not only has a malicious personal vendetta against certain people on the site but also promotes the censorship, deletion and suspension of other peoples...
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- david Martyn
nope, just kinda small stiches otherwise it would be really fast. But still doesn't take too long either. I have a card with the pattern on it, but it originates on this website which has the pattern: http://bittersweetblog.wordpress.com/2007... I made some modifications by using yarn for the beak and eyes instead of buttons and felt as I didn't want anything that could be too easily pulled off.
- Rachel Lea Fox
He isn't very big either. kinda hacky-sack sized.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thanks for posting the link. I might have to try to make one.
- aden
Thanks Bash. I'm working my way up to larger kids toys. This seemed like a good starting point. No problem aden. Gotta share the crafty love!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
See-ming and Laura - not meant to be for twitter, but if we attach a note with 140 characters on it and throw him across the room to someone, I'm sure he will deliver the message. ;-)
- Rachel Lea Fox
Ahh Jimminy.. You've been spared from seeing Schumaker Batman films I see. Yeah, he put nipples on the batsuit (and Robin's) for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, and also made WAY too big a deal about the codpieces. I still want to hunt him down and punch him in the throat for those two films.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I only came across this whole WHOSE RESPONSIBLE THIS thing today. Hi-larious.
- Andrew C
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I love these sorts of creative things!
- Rick Cogley
I always wish they'd show what these things look like from something other than the exactly perfect perspective. Because to most people passing by these would look totally different.
- Brian Johns
These never get old. Thanks for sharing. :)
- Kevin Winn
That's just because it's the first big name Twitter client on Android. The app itself needs some serious bug fixing. Oh, multi account support would be good too.
- Martin Bryant
from Android
Yep, yesterday mornings tweets came in overnight. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I read in another thread that the FF team confirmed they have lost the firehouse from Twitter. They are trying to fix it (and not sure if that accounts for the looooong delays) but I don't think it's just a FF issue
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
And we're about due for another service switch in the next 10 days or so.
- Andy Bakun
Yeah. It wouldn't be such an issue if just switched services but he does it quite often. It wouldn't be such an issue if he switched services as often as he does but each time that he does so, he switches with a much fanfare as he can muster, proclaims it the greatest thing that's ever happened to technology, and admonishes everyone who doesn't hop the bandwagon now. As I repeatedly say, I really like Robert but how many times can he cry 'wolf!' and still expect to be taken seriously?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, to Robert's credit he often does have a point. His intention with being so loud about it is to get your attention, to get people talking about it, and in return they really start to think about it. I admit he's gotten me thinking.
- Jesse Stay
Robert has acted this way about "new technology" he finds as far back as I have known him -- a kind of technology ADD I think - his career is predicated on it -- it is him. He always loudly claims that the technology is going to change his and everybody's life (and occasionally he might even be right).
- Brian Sullivan
Jesse, that may be true but it's the fact that when the particular doesn't work out, he washes his hands of it as if it were diseased.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Brian, for that reason I think he's a great person to follow because he does introduce you to some really cool new technology. He keeps us from feeling comfortable in any one environment. He constantly reminds me to continue looking elsewhere for something better - I think that's a good thing.
- Jesse Stay
Robert has also done some amazing things for entrepreneurs with worthy technology trying to get exposure for that technology. He's really helped the tech community with his style of finding the latest and greatest and best stuff I think.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse -- I follow what he does, I like and respect him as well. I have known him since the late 90's when he and I were Microsoft MVPs. But he certainly does and likes to stir the pot.
- Brian Sullivan
When you say it that way it sounds like a disease. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, that would be fully true if this wasn't like the second or third time twitter has become the darling technology. It's not always just the "new" technologies.
- Andy Bakun
Some of it may be serious backlash, but some of it is probably just horsing around. Robert can generally take it, and if you do cross the line he'll tell you, so people can mess with him without worrying too much.
- Bruce Lewis
Andy: true but with Twitter and FriendFeed you can take a new approach that dramatically changes their utility. Also, sometimes I catch wind of new features coming. Do you remember a dinner with @ev I had a few months back?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
However, taking a new approach doesn't mean the end of utility of doing things the way you previously did.
- Andy Bakun
My love, my dove, my angel, my reason for living... My bringer of ice cold coke. My maker of the best darn chow mien cabbagey thing. My stone cold fox. The maker of things better after a hard day with your quirky smile. The eyes I get lost in. The lips I love to kiss. The ears with no ear lobes (I'm sorry, it's freaky babe) The core of our family. The spark in our passion. The mother of a princess. The grace of a queen... My reason to smile... Happy Birthday
- Johnny Worthington
I am VERY impressed with how strong the FriendFeed community is - the new twitter list feature really high-lights the bond we all share...very cool :) <3 FF
Yeah, I saw a load of FF user lists spring up and I slapped myself on the wrist for not spending enough time her over the past couple of weeks!
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
"Maybe the stakes are just higher now, but it seems like every major cellphone launch these days is billed as a "Do or Die" proposition—a last hope for a once-glorious company trying to remain relevant in a quickly changing technological landscape where the mindshare and marketshare are increasingly dominated by a single device (that would be the iPhone). We most recently saw this with the Palm Pre (both Palm and Sprint’s bottom-of-the-ninth double-down play), and now, we see it with the Motorola Droid."
- Jason Huebel
from Bookmarklet
looks like a good wholesome first phone. But no multi-touch? I think that's a grave error
- winckel
I think my next phone is going to be this or a Sony Ericsson Xperia X3. I'm going to give Android a go after 18 months of iPhone.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
"With Blackberry and iPhone grabbing more and more subs, the carriers were losing control of the customer UI, which undoubtedly represents power and future monetization opportunities. With Android, carriers could re-claim their customer “deck.” Additionally, because Google has created an open source version of Android, carriers believe they have an “out” if they part ways with Google in the future. I then asked my friend, “so why would they ever use the Google (non open source) license version.” Here was the big punch line – because Google will give you ad splits on search if you use that version! That’s right; Google will pay you to use their mobile OS. I like to call this the “less than free” business model. This is a remarkable card to play. Because of its dominance in search, Google has ad rates that blow away the competition. To compete at an equally “less than free” price point, Symbian or windows mobile would need to subsidize. Double ouch!!"
- Meryn Stol
from Bookmarklet
"Argleton, a 'phantom town' in Lancashire that appears on Google Maps and online directories but doesn't actually exist, has puzzled internet experts."
- M F
from Bookmarklet
I've heard that conventional mapmakers sometimes add nonexistent streets to their maps to catch copyright infringers. Might Google be doing the same?
- Bruce Lewis
Tantalisingly, “Argle” echoes the word “Google”, while the phantom town’s name is also an anagram of “Not Real G”, and “Not Large”. One theory is that Argleton could have been deliberately added, as a trap to catch companies that violate the map's copyright.
- Eric Logan
Yes absolutely affordable. I found this n FFFFound but I couldn't find the original source because I certainly would love to buy some!!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
they should have called the last one "The Suite" (Adobe should hire these guys and give free pillows with every software purchased)
- dario
I'm impressed some marketing guy spent all of 20 minutes designing these logos and somehow the execs at Adobe bought them.. and paid him. The old Macromedia Flash logo was better in every way. You did notice that these logos are two letters in a very plain font on somewhat randomly selected colors? The guy who created these is a marketing genius only because he got his bosses to buy off on something that awful. When I first upgraded, lost the nice flash logo and saw that Red Fl square I went yuckkkkk.
- Ed Millard
@Ed.Millard I agree with you re the original Macromedia line of logos are better. But to unite the overall line of products, the logos are not half bad.
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Well I'll meet you half way, they are at least half bad :) There is no end to the irony of logos for a graphic design suite with the word "creative" in it, which have had no design work, no creativity and can be created in any word processor in under 5 minutes. If they wanted to unite the product line they should have migrated to the Macromedia logo design though needless to say there was no chance of that. At least they required a paint app.
- Ed Millard
@Ed.Millard I am aware that the first Creative Suite was done by MetaDesign SF http://www.metadesign.com/sanfran... but I dont' know who took over as agency of record for #Adobe. Do you know? Oh and btw, CS is not just a design suite, it also does audio, photography, video and motion graphics. And so I guess 'creative' is more appropriate? I'm not defending them in...
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- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I also found this Googling which discusses the new CS3 Logo's in depth and names the font designer. http://veerle.duoh.com/blog.... It seems to indicate they were done in house by, Ryan Hicks, Sr. Experience Designer at Adobe and apparently the design team came from Macromedia.
- Ed Millard
When you read that explanation it does suggest there is at least some sense to it in trying to pull together a huge product line and make them associate in the mind of a user when they see many icons on the desktop. Me I mostly just used Flash and when you saw Flash before the logo change and after it was just... gag.
- Ed Millard
Maybe their rationale was no other designer would use icons like those, so they could count on them not getting mixed up with any other company's icons on a desktop. On my Mac dock there is no icon that is just a colored square.
- Ed Millard